Kitfox 7 Apex Build Episode 38 Carbon Carbon and more Carbon

[@PoasLodge]

I’d leave the aluminum. I like the contrast.

[@TimMcKIE]

Cockpit looks fantastic and I reckon that the console looks great as it is. Suede on top and the raw aluminium side panels make a great contrast. Love the videos. Keep 'em coming!

[@larrymedler263]

The aluminum footplate color goes good with your silver exterior and gives depth to the footwells. Easier to clean.

[@theflyingfool]

Might get scuffed over time, but that was my thought as well. Perhaps some matt carbon strips to prevent any scuffing?

[@challenger2ultralightadventure]

You could cover the side panels with 3M Carbon Fiber wrap! Clean, fast, easy to clean or repair if damaged, and inexpensive. In fact, you could wrap it, install it, and if it doesn't look good just peel it off and go to plan B. Excellent progress, and a real sweet looking Kit Fox. Cheers from Winnipeg.

[@BowenAero]

I like this idea.

[@Jack-ne8vm]

I like Patey's idea of making floorboards into tubs to contain dirt..

[@BowenAero]

Me too, but the Kitfox floor panel closest to the seat needs to be removable.

[@Tommy-B.]

Attaching the seat support to the cushion is genius.

[@RV-14A-N721RomeoVictor]

Paint the sides of the console white to give the carbon some contrast it will make the interior pop! Great job!

[@maleficentcop2752]

Ok so the sides of the center conceal.... When I first saw the interior the thought was cover it in black cloth or carbin... But after seeing the aluminum I think that's the way to go...it looks more gray than not, which matches the color scheme of the plan... you could even paint it's gray, but a matt finish clear coat would work too..... Lots of progress, looking good...👍👍👍

[@justinmeaders]

Just have the console side panels black anodized. Zero weight gain and it looks super nice.

[@psotos]

Awesome work Bryan! Your channel is very inspiring!

[@peterbishop1933]

Leave it aluminum looks great and it's a high wear area . I have followed your build from the beginning very professional and informative. Excellent work can't wait to see it flying

[@stangelandsolution]

What would Patey do? The carbon looks great!

[@jumperzee9161]

Another great video Brian! Really enjoying the series. Appreciate the effort you've taken to track each step thru in your vids - from problem solving to materials test and procurement. Very educational and inspiring! Baggage compartment net/attachment is really cool. Carbon fiber side panels would really look awesome. Keep up the great content, can't wait to see it fly.

[@theflyingfool]

Really nice to see it all beginning to come together Bryan! Your hard work is paying off. I prefer the naked aluminium myself, perhaps with a few matt carbon or other scuff strips where the cowboy boots & spurs would scuff the alu? Thanks for a great build video again!

[@bearbergmann2782]

Carbon kick panels...in for a penny, in for a pound! At this point, I think you would end up regretting skipping that after doing it with all the other parts. Love all the work and thanks for the vids!

[@eiselbay]

Honestly I like the raw aluminum side panels for the footwell. Not sure how it would hold up. The contrast with that and the dark carbon/fabric looks nice.

[@countryflyer4536]

I think that the contrast from the aluminum looks good. whether or not you leave it or cover it with something that is lighter in color...

[@swlimitedbg]

Hey Bryan, Nicely done! I used a carbon fiber cloth material on my Kitfox V side console panels and it came out great. Cleans up nicely and lots of compliments. I could send you some pictures and details on the material if you like.

[@BowenAero]

Please do. [e-mail]

[@timlowe5318]

It's looking good, Brian. In my limited opinion, why not just cover the side panels in carbon film. That way you can make a full carbon fibre part in the future, if necessary.

[@BowenAero]

I like it

[@toddrader1698]

Really nice innovations going in the CarbonFox! High quality stuff!!

[@omm7763]

I personally like the look of the aluminum. At the bottom, I would just flip the edge and make it a safety edge and then fasten down.

[@patrickdavey9692]

what about a carbon fibre vinyl wrap, very light and easily replaced if damaged.

[@jazielephraim1427]

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[@judesteven5951]

@Jaziel Ephraim Flixportal =)

[@jazielephraim1427]

@Jude Steven Thanks, I signed up and it seems to work =) I really appreciate it!!

[@judesteven5951]

@Jaziel Ephraim No problem :)

[@jeremyjoy7163]

I have watched your entire build. Your kit fox is amazing. I will be watching several more times when I build mine. Your videos are going to be extremely helpful . As for the aluminum sides they do go well with your existing interior. If you do anything at all just skin them with carbon fiber but I wouldn’t cover them with the black fabric.

[@alaskanstoneguys]

Hell ya Damn good looking setups Thanks for the video

[@DBartWest]

Carbon fiber kick panels is my vote. I know it is a lot of work but you will be happier.

[@scottg.3248]

Leave it aluminum easy to clean buff out and adds nice contrast to the black.

[@VicariousAir]

I like the raw metal look.

[@davidrobins4025]

You have done some very nice work to make the carbon fiber parts and pieces. Thanks for sharing this with us. Keep up the good work. BTW - I appreciate the good clear video and sound.

[@georgel5308]

I enjoy ur videos I do mainly rc building. But have a 2x4 router cnc and a 4x4 laser cutter. If ur in a pinch ever I can cut u anything u need. Minus materials. Also ur doing an amazing job.

[@chrispy104k]

Leaving the console panels as they are might be an advantage if you have to carry out some work. They are a reflective surface so if you have to do any pedal work in the future you might appreciate the fact that they will reflect light to help illuminate what you are working on. The interior of my race car is white for that very reason and if I ever have to crawl into the car to work under the dash there is plenty of reflected light to make it easier to see.

[@MRJSWORKSHOP]

Very nice set up for the interior looks great!

[@jamesneirinck413]

Several have suggested this already but why not cover the aluminum side panels with the same carbon fiber look wrap you used on the instrument panel? Gives you the carbon fiber look while maintaining your aluminum panels and likely very durable and easy to wipe clean if it gets dirty. Thanks for the videos it is an inspiration to folks like myself. I'm not building a Kitfox but rather a CH750 and the common item will be I'm also going with the Yamaha Apex engine. So thanks for all the Engine specific videos and work you've done. Cheers.

[@BowenAero]

Yes, I like this idea.

[@JS2Tango]

Nice work! Suggestion for Shapr3D, put your grid lines on a separate layer or group, rather than deleting them all, just hide them.

[@robertpaxton1382]

Carbon fiber side panels👍

[@dougdority5589]

Hard Black anodize the side panels

[@kevinl416]

No suede for the reasons you listed. Leave the aluminum for now, it looks great. You can always mold the carbon down the road if you need. a project

[@cyneal7246]

Looking really good. You could paint the kick panels white to match your seats. Later if you decide to make them carbon it’s easy enough to do and it’s not wrapped. I’d also think about moving your handheld radio somewhere closer to you when you’re flying that way if it ever is needed is easy to get to.

[@jimhuskyflying]

It looks GREAT. You are doing an awesome job.

[@ronworthley8273]

Beautiful job I would do the side panels carbon with clear coat 👍

[@mattinsley1721]

Leave it aluminum. That will take a beating and take on it's own character. It's still a bush plane! Killer progress.

[@hovhas]

About the console, keep it aluminium! Looks better, works better, less work!

[@tomblack8899]

How about powder coating the side panels.

[@allenpeachy3987]

On the center console, just leave it aluminum for now, and see how it works. I think the aluminum looks good as it is , but it might look different in person. Or paint them black? Just keep going with the rest of the build. 👍👍

[@ActinOut]

Looking awesome man! Its really coming together and looking very professional. On the center console, if you're willing to put in the time & effort put in the carbon fiber on the sides now because I suspect the fabric is going to be more subject to wear quicker from the sides of feet, etc and then you'll prob end up redoing it again later anyway.

[@TheRedbeardpirate]

Personaly I like the aluminum console side panels. It's a nice contrast, you could use a clear bra wrap to keep them from getting scratched up.

[@BlueBaron3339]

Was starting to think you had carbon on the brain there, Bryan 😂 🤣 Then I recalled the sales pitch for Luscombes - my first airplane - back in the '30s and '40s: No Wood, No Nails, No Glue. 😉

[@studiocasey]

You could anodize the center console aluminum black.

[@BowenAero]

It’s not aluminum.

[@studiocasey]

Ah, my bad. I thought you were talking about the panels at 22:07.

[@BowenAero]

@@studiocasey Yes the side panels could be anodized for sure.

[@valhardy4349]

Polish those side pieces it'll brighten it up so you can see

[@foesfly3047]

Greatest challenge for KZbinrs: Finding non-copyright background 'music' that isn't very very very very annoying 😂 I'm loving your videos Brother.

[@michaelhenry716]

Side panels would look good if you did them in matt black anodize which would be much easier than carbon.

[@flyingkub]

Mold to the back face of the aluminum side panels with a release agent and then you will have a nice finished item.

[@BowenAero]

I think that would be the plan if I make them out of carbon fiber.

[@mikercflyer7383]

How about black anodize. Happy New Year.

[@Stpilot]

Looks really good Bryan. I would do the side panels in CF, keep the look

[@michaelr2656]

Carbon fiber wrap the side panels

[@carveroutdoors]

Console side panels will get super dirty in suede for sure.

[@mikewright17]

Leave the console in aluminum- clear coat it. It looks stunning in contrast to the carbon, and kind of matches the fuselage

[@jimlane9039]

Keep you look consistent. Carbon Fiber side pieces on the console.

[@hovhas]

Awesome..again!!

[@HookedOnUtah]

Bryan, looks so amazing, You could have your center console dipped in carbon graphic, it would look just like carbon and is super durable. where did you find those cargo rings.

[@BowenAero]

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MMMH6F5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@HookedOnUtah]

@@BowenAero Thanks a ton Bryan.

[@01boian]

Just leave it. Aluminium looks reallynice as a contrast to all the black!

[@davidalhoff7190]

Man, since the front part of the plane you got into Carbon:) nice work!!! So please go ahead and make foot plates also from carbon!

[@5xls]

06:42 Tiny correction... your Airworthiness Certificate needs to be displayed, not your registration. Wonderful videos, carry on.

[@sidneydu2163]

The aluminum is a source of rattle in fight

[@chrisbjohannsen]

Do the carbon!

[@willsta21]

Leave it aluminium and carbon fibre it looks mean!

[@azenginerd9498]

Anodized? Doesn't save you any weight but provides abrasion resistant black. Or facial. Or blue. And the panels can be used to mold carbon at a later time.

[@leeadams5941]

You have gone to all the trouble of doing the CF I think I would stick to it just to make things match and look professional

[@lapoint7603]

How about having your console panels hydro dipped in a carbon fiber look?

[@SpyGeorgilis]

Mike Patey has talked a lot about how, over time, carbon fiber and aluminum don't play nice when they touch each other. You seem to have a few accessories and fasteners contacting the carbon fiber boards. Are they doing so directly? Have you placed a third material between them? As always, awesome video. Can't wait to see this fly!

[@BowenAero]

No direct metal contact with the carbon fiber. There is paint, powder coat or weather stripping between them.

[@av8or971]

carbon fiber kick panels... since you took the time to take out the forward floor board, why not do it right, now, instead of making a change later, like you said. it would be harder to do down the road.

[@leebasey8304]

Use Carbon Fiber rap (get at a sign shop or online) on the side panels which shouldn't add a lot of weight. I see Patrick beat me to it.

[@reese8170]

powder coat white to match seat

[@x111-c4f]

Project Kitfox, you should use titanium exhaust for the weight saving !! :)

[@BowenAero]

One of the muffler options is Titanium, but it’s still heavy.

[@MrRolingstone]

Carbon fiber console:)

[@christopherdowney6055]

You may have already answered this, but how much useful load are you expecting with this build?

[@BowenAero]

750 lbs

[@DBartWest]

Where did you get the quick release cargo rings? Thanks.

[@BowenAero]

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MMMH6F5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@TheAlphamale13]

Just skin the centre console in carbon then make the side pieces in carbon. That’s what I’m doing too.

[@markdoan1472]

Could have told you carbon is heavier than equal thickness wood but profoundly stiffer .. for things like floor boards the lightest you can do is balsa or foam with a carbon layer on top and bottom .... never solid carbon .... And its something i would never farm out , bond it at home .... Balsa for floorboards you question ... Corvettes had it .. High end boats and some airplanes .. It has been a very quick , easy go to solution for even high end , high performance equipment .. just coat it with carbon . Also those under seat pieces should be balsa and carbon ... lighter than what you got

[@BowenAero]

Just time and money

[@plane-fuzz]

Did you say carbon?

[@scottbaker9337]

Carbon

[@ronnybaize]

Carbon wrap. But I like the suede

[@righthandy6526]

side panels--carbon fiber

[@fooey9013]

paint side panels black until you change them to carbon.

[@thompsonjerry3412]

Carbon fiber side pieces not suede.

[@deep6thisdeep6this92]

save time, expense and effort, leave it in aluminum and get the plane in the air while you're young. :)

[@BowenAero]

Plenty of time to fly.

[@KowboyUSA]

More carbon than a coal seam.

[@travisw9071]

Personally leave it raw. Looks great and functional and light. Also personally don't cover it. Feet live there and its a bush plane and its not light as possible. Alternatively personally ok, paint silver or black or yellow or whatever. Or go crazy and do carbon but i think you've gone too far and should swap that fiberglass baggage pice at that point too

[@gavinferguson]

wrap

[@jakewansor2889]

I think its worth making the console side panels from carbon. When making decisions like this, I always think, "would I find myself explaining my reason for doing it this way, in the future?" I wouldn't want to stop short, here, and then tell everyone why you didn't do finish it out in carbon like the rest of the interior. Like you're making excuses for a decision. Just my 2 cents! This project is really impressive! I can't wait to see it finished! Keep on brother!

[@1shARyn3]

FAR 91.203(a)(2) states that no person may operate a civil aircraft unless it has within it an effective U.S. registration certificate issued to its owner. It doesn’t say the aircraft registration certificate has to be displayed, but it must always be kept within the aircraft when operated. The Airworthiness Certificate is the document that must be displayed (FAR 91.203(b) states "No person may operate a civil aircraft unless the airworthiness certificate required by paragraph (a) of this section or a special flight authorization issued under § 91.715 is displayed at the cabin or cockpit entrance so that it is legible to passengers or crew.")

[@brianasipes]

Good Work. I’m working and saving to buy a Kitfox S7 STi I’m following you to learn about your journey. Hopefully this will help me to have a successful build