The Emotional Experience of Spending Time with Deported Veterans - Klepper Podcast

[@gwick358]

I'm a vet. Thankfully I don't face deportation. In my opinion if you serve for the U.S you are a citizen.

[@homerdrumpf4877]

Amen. And for someone who avoids the army draft .should shut up and not judge vets.

[@SutapaBhattacharyaKolkata]

@@homerdrumpf4877 Exactly. Commander Bone Spurs does not get a say on this.

[@joshuabanner9920]

How sad Guy that this day and age that’s a charge statement.

[@cristianvillanueva8782]

The fuck, i thought thats how one can earn citizenship what kind of bullshit is that.

[@havanascp9602]

Is supposed to be the law. But is not always use. Go figure.

[@cocotazo8279]

As a veteran, I've beem educating myself about how Kushner and other idiots are selling citizenships through investments. WTF is wrong with our politicians. AS A DISGUSTED REPUBLICAN, I AM NOW AN INDEPENDENT VOTER BECAUSE OF MY DISGUST WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION. Thank you for this piece of documentary. Your comedy is evolving because your gifts and skills are merging. Best wishes. God Bless you and your talented team.

[@aejones77]

Jordan... full disclosure.. I saw an Ad with you and a non-citizen vietnam veteran that caught my attention and after checking out your page I Subscribed. I'm a vet and throughout my military career I've met, trained, and/or mentored several individuals on the so called "fast-track" to citizenship and I personally think it's EGREGIOUS that our Govt. would even consider deporting non-citizen veterans. These men and women laid their life on the line, or were at least willing to, and what's their reward? They get lied to and ABANDONED! You're doing a good thing brother..Keep on Keepin' on!! ~Respectfully, AJ

[@angelluisll1033]

Betrayal is common practice for the US government. Lookup what the US Cavalry did to the Indian scouts they hired to help them find Geronimo. Lookup The Bay of Pigs disaster and the real reason Fidel Castro chose to ally the Soviet Union over the United States. Ho Chi Minh was another ally of the US who was also betrayed by the US. Note that both Fidel Castro and Ho Chi Minh were not communists, they were Socialists who loved their country and wanted to help end the poverty of their people and improve their living standards of which America promised to help them with betrayed them instead. Saddam Hussein was another ally with the United States before he was betrayed. I'm not saying that the people the US betrays are Saints just that the US has a history of betrayal. More recently watch what the US is doing to those that helped them in the Afghanistan war.

[@geodez2959]

Thank you Manuel for your service. And also thanks to Jordan and his producers for their social service.

[@Darkshizumaru]

I have a bridge I can sell you, text me.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

​@@Darkshizumaru You are being horrible...

[@geodez2959]

How much for that bridge Darkshitz?

[@briantyson7744]

@@davidhollenshead4892 I, for one, am sick and tired of people too chicken shit to post comments under their real name.

[@gratefulElizabeth]

@@geodez2959 he's souless, he has already sold his soul/ bridge. @darkshizumaru is an obvious coward & PATHETIC POS, to say the least. #keyboardcoward 🤡🇷🇺💩

[@justanotherhuman8918]

I thought this was how one could become a citizen? Service. This is horrible, I’m a veteran. Anyone who serves their country deserves to be a citizen and treated as one, period.

[@awkwardaquamarine19]

I'm not American, but that story about the kid's finger through the hole in the wall had me bawling. Great human interest piece and study about U.S. socialism. Thank you Manuel, Mr. Klepper, and the crew. Cheers!

[@angelluisll1033]

Betrayal is common practice for the US government. Lookup what the US Cavalry did to the Indian scouts they hired to help them find Geronimo. Lookup The Bay of Pigs disaster and the real reason Fidel Castro chose to ally the Soviet Union over the United States. Ho Chi Minh was another ally of the US who was also betrayed by the US. Note that both Fidel Castro and Ho Chi Minh were not communists, they were Socialists who loved their country and wanted to help end the poverty of their people and improve their living standards of which America promised to help them with betrayed them instead. Saddam Hussein was another ally with the United States before he was betrayed. I'm not saying that the people the US betrays are Saints just that the US has a history of betrayal. More recently watch what the US is doing to those that helped them in the Afghanistan war.

[@awkwardaquamarine19]

Very informative,@@angelluisll1033. Thanks! Like I said, I'm not American, but US politics has fascinated me for the last 5 years. After the tumultuous previous administration, I'm glad the US reputation as a shining beacon of democracy is recovering slowly but surely (I hope!). Cheers!

[@stevieme8642]

It's messed up that veterans don't get automatic citizenship. Children adopted from overseas also don't get citizenship and can be deportedtoo.. I think that's messed up too.

[@zeusmasterson4117]

Stephanie Avebury If a US resident legally adopts a child in the US- that is, in American courts- the child becomes a US citizen under Child Citizenship Act (CCA) of 2000. There are other rules that grant this as well.

[@macroxela]

@@zeusmasterson4117 legally and ideally yes but unfortunately that's not always the case.

[@lazyperfectionist1]

So you're saying that being willing to lay down your life in _defense_ of this nation is _not_ a sure-fire ticket to _citizenship_ or even legal _residence?_

[@chicawhappa]

Basically! I don't see how this benefits the USA.

[@lotrnerd5037]

It doesn’t matter to the big wigs if you lay down your life to the country if you are not white. I would bet the odds are they don’t deport Canadians or Europeans.

[@SutapaBhattacharyaKolkata]

@@lotrnerd5037 Or not rich.

[@littlegothgirl8869]

@@SutapaBhattacharyaKolkata if the person is rich they probably wouldn't be going into service in the first place.

[@Speedster189]

Lotrnerd 503 it’s fucked up to think about but man this is probably a true statement

[@macdaddy1149]

Manuel and all the true Americas, our vets thank you for your service. No one that has served this country should be deported, period! Keep up the good work Manuel and thank you Jordan for this information.

[@swaggermcdagger5474]

"The only country in the world powerful enough to take down America, is America" new favorite quote

[@stevenklnes7148]

While I miss your character during The Opposition era, I'm glad to see you taking a stance on issues that would've been joked about on The Opposition are being earnestly talked about on Klepper.

[@ntandosekay]

Miss The Opposition too however this is pretty amazing reporting too from Klepper and his production team.

[@brianwest2775]

Dropped off with no ID?! How is that possible?! Even if you must deport someone, be decent about it! That's the problem with Homeland Security & ICE is the lack of humanity or even decency.

[@theophilevictoria5592]

Teared up like 3 times watching this

[@Darkshizumaru]

Was it for the people the guy assaulted in his felony case? Yeah I weep for them too.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

​@@Darkshizumaru Do you even know why he wasn't charged ??? Nope, you just post your hate here, because you apparently lack basic human empathy.

[@Halo-lg7rq]

Darkshizumaru did you forget he said it was alleged and never even went to court

[@SentientBurrito]

a vet should be granted citizenship, commit a crime? send them to jail or prison but when they've served their time, let them back in. they fought for the very freedom you take for granted.

[@simjea]

Man, the part about the the kid and the father in the park almost made me cry. Just had a daughter and cannot imagine what I would do if it happened to me, how you don't become "crazy", angry...

[@dontaylor7315]

Thanks for including Sebastian Junger in this. He and his message are important.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Agreed. I have found myself arguing that conservatives and liberals have legitimate arguments, and that we should not demonize each other. Mr. Junger makes that clear in his own way. Also he is right about national service...

[@agilemind6241]

​@@davidhollenshead4892 National service sounds nice but it is problematic if you really think it through. (1) Do you pay young people for their national service? - if you do then where does that money come from? if you don't then your just flat out exploiting those youths. (2) How do you ensure quality of work? Young people aren't going to be trained or have expertise in whatever you are forcing them to do. I certainly wouldn't want to cross a bridge built by 18 year olds who only showed up because they were legally required to do so. (3) What happens to the people they would be replacing? Creating a national service program won't magically create more work for people to do, so this new free or discounted workforce is going to be replacing people who currently do these jobs. The military can do it because it is an entirely publicly controlled institution that doesn't actually produce any products/services that compete with private sector jobs. Plus a lot of the work they do isn't actually that important so when some fresh-faced kid screws up it's generally not that big of a deal - guards falling asleep at their posts usually won't end with 100+ children dead or injured unlike say if someone doesn't assemble the roof of a school correctly.

[@dontaylor7315]

@@agilemind6241 "Do you pay young people for their national service?" I assume, without looking it up, that alternative forms of national service (e.g. the Peace Corps) have included a salary because I doubt any administration or any Congress could get away with mandating service paid for out of pocket by the person performing it. "... where does that money come from?" My suggestion: out of the vast amounts now spent on expending young people as cannon fodder in regime change wars for corporate profit. "How do you ensure quality of work?" I would guess the same way it's ensured by the existing service branches. For instance the gruntworkers on the ground aren't charged with designing and overseeing the Army Corps of Engineers projects they carry out. "What happens to the people they would be replacing?" The bulk of the infrastructure work now needed (just one example: the majority of American bridges are dangerously old and in disrepair) is work nobody's being employed to do. And millions of school children need but can't afford tutors like those now available only to the privileged; giving them a leg up would be an invaluable national service.

[@SegunLawal]

The people who make these decisions have obviously never served shoulder to shoulder on the front line. If vets have committed a crime and done the time, they've done the time.

[@realMors]

Agree. Well spoken brother🙏.

[@makennayork6047]

Jordan gives me hope that we can all be better

[@zinta0904]

A bit late, but here we go, a little comment to the things Sebastian Junger said relating to the Covid-19 crisis and what he talked about the services he witnessed in eastern European countries. I am from Austria, here is a little suggestion for the future, an example of how we replace and support our failing forces due to corona. we have a system that still requires 8 months of military service for all young men. However, there has been an alternative that has been on for the last 30 years, the so-called community service or civil service. Young people help in old people's homes, in the rescue service, with the fire brigade, handicapped care, general care services etc. for 8 months. A short training course, depending on the job, and it starts as an assistant. Not only can you get all the people involved in the event of a crisis like we have now. In addition, it would not harm anyone, regardless of whether poor or rich, white black, yellow or brown, that they get an insight into social life, or rather, it does not harm them when they grow up. As compensation (pocket money) you get about 300-500 dollars since you usually live at home after school. Now in the Corona crisis, our government has called the past 5 years of civil servants who have been in the care and rescue. That was 6,000 additional hands within our 9 million Citizens (approx. Same as New York). In this country, there is also a discussion of equality that young women should also be involved in this obligation. It shouldn't be too much to ask that all young people sacrifice 8 months of their lives for the general public and the state.

[@wtj7128]

When I was in VN, My brothers and I offered our lives and killed to defend each other. Where are those former military members in Congress and why are they silent? SHAME ON THAT ICE AGENT. WE BLED FOR HIM.

[@Darkshizumaru]

Sure, and you bled for the person he assaulted to gain the felony charges brought against him. Kind of a weird state of affairs how that's never really talked about and passed off as not a real thing that happened... even though it did. I do wonder what the victim of the assault had to say but sadly... that's not how liberals like to paint criminal deportee's. Feel bad for him, he's a criminal but feel bad for him.

[@maxwellduncan3555]

@@Darkshizumaru You are ignoring what the American people and the DoD and the Government did to those people. Think about all the DUI's, assaults, and other crimes Vets coming home still do. And that's WITH all the medical and mental health access we now have. The vets that came back from Nam and Korea were met with the door and a public that hated them. So yeah call them criminals if you want. I'll call them my Brothers and Sister.

[@maxwellduncan3555]

It's not like the ICE agent can choose to not do their job.

[@lovepeace3476]

JORDAN KLEPPER! you sir is a very amazing guy to bring joy and laughter to our time of misery and sadness of our lives. To what you brought together our great Americans our brothers and sisters that had been forgotten from serving America 🇺🇸 and bring awareness to every single person whats going on in real life it take a strong guy like you. You went all out of your conffert zone of comedy to broadcast real real life stories, I tip my hat to you sir and may God be with you and your crew for protection in Jesus christ ❤

[@akoelbl2003]

I Love THIS art of journalism ! We so need this ! please keep doing this !

[@danielowens6209]

I love the work your doing. Please keep it up. Oh yeah your singing sucks. But I still love you.

[@cOr3t3ecks]

I couldn't have said it better. So I won't bother trying.

[@betta1fish]

It breaks my heart to see this. I didn’t know about this until I saw your show. Im glad you’re bringing light to this...

[@jimkennedy8327]

The whole country should see this video. I am sharing it with my friends on Facebook.

[@jeannettesarpola3056]

great job Melissa and Todd, oh and you too Jordan

[@ntandosekay]

Oh Klepper Klepper Klepper! Thank you for such awesome reporting, we need more like you.Much much more!

[@nihalkedar]

Thanks Klepper for getting to the roots of such unseen issues🥺

[@annmariemcintosh1528]

I was unaware of this horrible mess,how unfair,this story brings tears to my eyes,I will be happy to donate,but I want to do more, how can I do that ? NEED TO KNOW.looking for a way

[@StunningMcC]

God Jordan Klepper is best out there i swear

[@Weegee766]

My grandpa served in the Korean War, my great grandma was a navy nurse in WW1and my other grandpa served in WW2. I think it’s great he’s shining a light on this topic, it such a shame these veterans get treated like this. My heart breaks for them and their families, they don’t deserve this treatment after what they did for our country.

[@RushVidz44]

We need more KLEPPER!!!!

[@jefbrownable]

Thanks J! Always enjoyed your reports on the daily show. Your bold comedic perspective on these issues is truly magical

[@colingoodfield7476]

Mr. Klepper, I'm a disabled Navy veteran and I want to let you know that I'll be sharing this to my Facebook page tomorrow morning. It's called MISDIAGNOSED MILITARY AND MALTREATED VETERANS. Please all who care about these types of issues regarding active military or veterans please request to join the group. Thank you Mr. Klepper, and all who are in support.

[@direktive4]

wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment that crises could be the best thing to happen for people in some regards

[@nrw5513]

Love seeing journalists discuss the process so it isn't all lost in the edit

[@cassandraherrera4631]

Jordan keep up the great work. 🍻✌️

[@notplebbes9108]

i like that you show that you disagree the other side of things but you dont block it, you see it from both sides

[@arnoldpolin5426]

Your journalism is the best...you don't take reality seriously...or yourself for that matter...my sense of humor is like yours...I get you...we understand that a sense of humor needs intelligence...and I love how your sense of humor goes over the heads of the interviewee...at the same time not laughing at them...but with them.

[@marafortune3713]

I loved the first part of the interview and although I strongly disagreed with the opinion of the guy in the second part, it was still very interesting to hear his perspective.

[@beaniecattube]

Came to comment this exactly

[@leahcat4]

Same

[@michaelhinojosa8898]

Go and support the tip of the spear. Face book- Unified U.S. Deported Veterans-Resource Center "Playas Barracks" These deported soldiers have so much love and empathy that one of their ongoing missions is to provide food and water to all the caravan immigrants trapped at the border. I learned what a real "Humanitarian" is working with them.

[@ntandosekay]

I will be donating all the way from the UK and I have the bare minimum.

[@abebabeyene6779]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR

[@asiadyer]

Good for you, J Klepper!!!

[@beatsmith]

You had me at: country version of "no diggity".

[@msmithmitchell1604]

Good for Jordan. He is really doing “good” work.

[@mcfreeagent]

Bro, you are a gem. Quick witted and quick with it

[@solstice3410]

Boy the Flash Light needs to hit Critical Mass about these Vets being deported. This is so Messed Up! The Laws needs to protect these Vets. Period end of Story.

[@readingturtle9036]

July 2020 - I think we are experiencing Sebastian Junger's crisis. I'm ready for things to get better now.

[@LambieSamba]

A stunning program thank you Jordan!

[@MusicfromMarrs]

Thank you for covering the tough issues that immigrants gave. Certainly anyone who puts their life on the line for the US military should have citizenship after the 1st enlistment. As long as you’ve branched into military service and citizenship, can you expand to those who have served our military and media as translators? This has been an issue this century. Men and women who have been invaluable to saving military lives and lives of innocent civilians face being murdered and/or dire trouble for loved ones should be fast tracked for US citizenship.

[@Beatlesfanish]

This was an amazing video. Jordan is great at interviews

[@annamaedevlin1713]

UNBELIEVABLE!

[@qwertyuiop1st]

It is too bad that your show is not available without a cable subscription.

[@Darkshizumaru]

Funny that, its almost like a corporate sponsor wants you to say the things they want you to say in the same formula as everyone else they produce so you can feel good about hating your own country. Something smell fishy about that? It should.

[@hollyc4302]

@qwertyuiop you can watch free episodes on the Comedy Central app! You just have to wait until a few weeks after the show airs

[@qwertyuiop1st]

@@hollyc4302 I've looked on the Comedy Central website many times. No access without a cable subscription, no matter how long you wait.

[@hollyc4302]

@@qwertyuiop1st there are 3 unlocked episodes up right now

[@qwertyuiop1st]

@@hollyc4302No. There are not. I went to the Comedy Central site and was told "Find your TV provider and then sign in with your username and password."

[@tarajoyce3598]

Wow!!! Never heard this before. 😳

[@DennyMui]

Great Podcast.

[@toria.strange.bastet]

Thank you for doing these videos

[@CumpasFilms]

i've been to that bunker many a time. I knew a few vets that died from treatable illnesses.

[@DontRush911]

How’s does this video/podcast not have 1 million views by now?

[@________o6474]

Great work.

[@taruanmatthews9254]

I definitely agree with national mandatory service. Having some agency in the thing you love makes you better and the thing you love better.

[@timothybrown3558]

28:04 recounting of father only able to touch his son's finger and weeping made me literally weep. Somehow I missed that in watching the actual documentary. I think humor is great way to convey a message but maybe got in the way of the most fundamental tragedy in all of this that families are being torn apart not just of veterans but human beings. Not suggesting you should stop using humor but maybe more recognition of the grave moments.

[@sharontrujillo7793]

....there is a point where that scene is being shown...but not explained...perhaps they used the bigger point with the children....when playing in the sand, as they destroyed "the wall" ❣️

[@patrick247two]

It's funny where you find heroes.

[@geraldwebb5475]

thank you

[@MargaretPinard]

I think the 'immigrant' label carries more political weight than the 'veteran' label because all those people who are from America but haven't sacrificed anything for America find it easier to look down on a marginalized, vulnerable community than to push for fair treatment under the law. The remark about serving time then getting hijacked to the border is just pressing all kinds of buttons for me, after just seeing When They See Us... oh, for an episode on prison/parole/voting reform! Keep up the good work, Team Klepper. Great conversations.

[@mariaangelova8275]

35:28 greetings from a Bulgarian!! Yes, I can confirm, things were way better in Bulgaria when we had community/work service. Now, people just try to do what Americans do. 😞

[@bmarkrundle]

37:52 Not a surprising number. How many of those were kids of miltary personnel stationed overseas, then followed their parent(s) into service?

[@jaymurphy642]

We love you Jordan! Your the man! Lmao!

[@Stier2019]

I'm sure those veterans were treated better in México than in USA

[@ipellly]

wow this is really a thing

[@Darkshizumaru]

Yeah, we deport people who commit felonies, it's a thing. Assault is a felony.

[@ipellly]

Darkshizumaru dang I figured veterans got treated better than that, given that they’ll probably be mentally unsound by the time they’re discharged, and more prone to commit crimes due to lack of funds for the va.

[@kenken1704]

Darkshizumaru shut the fuck up

[@Masquerade08]

What's the likelihood of getting an update on this situation?

[@CumpasFilms]

i believe that the bunker used to be like an old auto parts shop or something. definintely didn't start as living quarters.

[@mariaangelova8275]

This is just heartbreaking 💔😢😭 I had no idea the US did this 😞

[@Kiwionwing]

Many countries have exactly same situation. UK Canada and France France have a system when injured at war you get citizenship. Saying this I agree with you

[@simjea]

By the way, the name of the park (Friendship Park) is so clinical!!!!

[@ohawwgeez3112]

Mandatory National Service like in Israel that’s insane. You don’t need that to bring unity! Separation is a symptom of economic anxiety.

[@danielgreenwell2117]

Literally no one in the military (I am a veteran) wants mandatory military service or a draft. Warfighters aren’t artists who do this on a side, that’s our job. It’s crazy because if you pumped the numbers up for say a WW according to the Naval Institute: we would actually be less useful because we are already bloated

[@danielgreenwell2117]

Literally no one in the military (I am a veteran) wants mandatory military service or a draft. Warfighters aren’t artists who do this on a side, that’s our job. It’s crazy because if you pumped the numbers up for say a WW according to the Naval Institute: we would actually be less useful because we are already bloated

[@johnedward3404]

I get my political information from comedians and I watch politicians for my comedy our country is upside down right now draft dodgers are presidents and veterans are deported insane

[@ezequielpereda8022]

It's crazy how the system works. I bet that if this Veterans had resources to hire lawyers they wouldn't get deported. I personally met illegal immigrants who committed deportable offenses, And got release in the estates. The only difference is that this people have resources to hire lawyers. That's the whole issue. MONEY.

[@morganrtw]

Service or internship focused on naturally exhibited skill set and passion of the individual. Let's young people try out a few staples of a society to learn and connect. That would be really cool.

[@henaineee]

subscribed

[@jorgepantoja7886]

I want to know what I can do to help 😕! Please let me know I'm a veteran and I'm mexican

[@JewelsShaman]

Please write or call your state senators, and representatives in the House. They are the lawmakers, and if we can get their attention - we will make the Right changes. Together. (good news: America got a new Dad who actually CARES!!)

[@yup_its_ME.512]

thank you for your service!

[@ManiacalViolet]

Centrism is not an answer. Centrism and coddling of fascism will only destroy us more. Can we talk about ending the evil that is nationalism (which is where xenophobia comes from)? Can we talk about ending war? No, it seems we are not allowed.

[@LizardMan942]

Nationalism is what made this country good..

[@mizzapple2947]

America will never be the same.

[@andethidialbubabibub3261]

Thank you Jordan! Just thx! Edit: there's no social service year in the US if you don't go to the military? Wtf xD

[@dontaylor7315]

Thanks for making that point about MAGA hat guys. Common ground CAN be found! It's easier and more fun to hate on them instead of talking to them and getting the damn job done but it's lazy. Congratulations to Jordan for doing the right thing - and they came out of the bar without losing any teeth.

[@zeusmasterson4117]

Don Taylor Nothing can be gained by trying to reason with the unreasonable. Trump supporters can only be defeated, not reached.

[@dontaylor7315]

@@zeusmasterson4117 I hear you because my inner Trump agrees. Our inner Trump wants us to keep the hate alive and growing, to keep the division a permanent and festering national wound. But my better nature stands with Jordan. And with Sebastian Junger.

[@josue52977]

I was born in Mexico. I served honorably.. that could of been me!!

[@marcov1147]

Hi everyone 😁

[@jenniferartin]

No more walls

[@66spamo93]

Semper Fi Manuel!

[@williamcortelyou4524]

Jordan, hire me on to your staff. I mean seriously, I know you have some good people, who mean well. But, you are trying to do something good, you should have at the least, some ac. If I was there, I'd get a battery powered small fan, a cooler, cut a hole the size of the fan, freeze a few water bottles, and then put the fan in the hole, and have another cooler with extra Frozen water bottles to replace. Viola, instant ac, that'll last you at least 3 hours, if not more. Would take longer then the ice to freeze then make.

[@mcfreeagent]

I'm trying to move to Mexico for a while, but I get it, the people who are vets have this pride and the gov't is garbage... weird, i know.

[@lannielson1506]

Well he wasn’t wrong about the impending crisis. Sure hope he’s right about it making the country stronger

[@DontRush911]

Sabastian Junger has been on Joe Rogan too

[@nonamerocks2807]

Mandatory service is a great idea, maybe then people would have more respect for each other and their communities and quit separating by races and economic capabilities.

[@rey187]

Anyone with any sense of decency can tell that something is dreadfully wrong here.

[@homerdrumpf4877]

I used hate this guy And not funny. But I see his facts behind his low quailty joke. Respect though

[@aki4357]

This is awful, in school you learn about vets but nobody ever says lots of vets get deported!

[@tarajoyce3598]

At the end of service shouldn't they just be full citizens? Once a citizen, always a citizen I unless abdicated by that person?

[@jennykissedmekrieman7695]

Jordan, buy the man a new a/c unit. :)

[@williamzee7610]

Can someone please help me with this c word I can't think of rn but knew earlier. Ex. The the president hiring his son for a position in his cabinet is blank Ex. Having somebody who's in charge of an oil company in charge of the energy of the United States

[@nickwalberry8599]

It doesn't start with "c" but nepotism is what you are describing and the word i most often hear used fir what you are talking about.

[@J_C_Richard96]

as Indiana Jones said somewhere your grandpa is laughing Case in point United Kingdom