When Guns, Race and Activism Intersect, Things Get Complicated - Klepper Podcast

[@thorshammer138]

“The only difference between me and an officer is training and certification”. You can say that about any profession. “The only difference between me and a brain surgeon is training and certification.”

[@noxoloshange5416]

😂😂

[@glcoola2349]

Why dont you go ahead then and do some surgery! 😂

[@NastyFool7]

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to hold a gun. Matter of fact, our military often recruits 18 y/o to actively kill people kn the other side of the world

[@NastyFool7]

Just like an 18yo can go kill people for the government across the world, any smuck with a clean record can get a badge for power and intimidation at home

[@LocardIII]

Yeah that was a terrible comparison. What he should have brought up is how often police have broken laws, planted evidence, abused their power, and generally shown they are unfit to “protect and serve.”

[@sachinbangaru737]

Where I come from a 13 year old with an AR is called a “child soldier”.

[@ispartacus1337]

Amazing how the same people that probably think that's horrible (conservative/Christians) will send their $2 a day to "help" kids in that situation will arm their children in their own country and think it's ok. Granted they aren't injecting their kids with heroin and sending them into war but the brainwashing aspect is still the same.

[@justlooking1087]

I, Spartacus Do you think the majority of child soldiers are made to be that by their parents or something? Only asking because you wrote “injecting their kids”.

[@xander8999]

Mr. Devor you are pretty rude actually. I learned to shoot at a young age and I’m on the school trap team (shotgun shooting) and I nor any of my family is mentally ill. And I will carry when I can.

[@sachinbangaru737]

Xander why would you need to carry a gun when you’re not competing??

[@xander8999]

Sachin Bangaru To protect myself from potential threats

[@jacobgrundsell1986]

“Some people don’t have the luxury of being polite, because they’re dying” Great quote Kobi

[@erinerin561]

Exactly!!

[@jazeenharal6013]

Lmao sure. But who's doing the majority of the killing? And how much of this is pure grift?

[@ronaldcoleman312]

@@jazeenharal6013 ask the deeper question of why all the killing is happening.

[@jazeenharal6013]

@@ronaldcoleman312 I can think of a whole lot of reasons, none of which are going to be fixed by protests, reparations or any of the things we're doing today. Although, I would look at when the actual disruption began: right around the beginning of "The Great Society", that took black father's out of the home by deincentivizing marriage. (The government won't help a family with a husband in the home, putting direct positive incentive toward single-parent households.) Because of this, from 1950 until now, the black community went from one of the most cohesive, tightest-knit family units (15% fatherlessness) to the most dysfunctional by a longshot. (Over 75%) This has had ripples for generations now, and it is all directly related to all of the attempted "help". The Great Society act destroyed the black community, and there are many who think it was very intentional. Regardless of why things are the way they are; the solution is not going to come from the outside. It's going to have to come from within these communities. No amount of throwing money at the problem is going to fix it. No amount of reparations will work without a steady framework and ability to manage money. We can throw blame all day, mostly at dead people...but none of the solutions being offered are going to actually work. And I don't believe many "allies" want this to be solved. It's too lucrative, and if the problem were fixed, what would people campaign on? Simply put, black autonomy is not in the best interest of those claiming to care. (I'm talking about the politicians mostly) The other question is... How long will we get to place the responsibility on everything but those actually pulling the triggers? I often hear people bend over backwards trying to justify *why* people are doing these terrible things, but how long can those excuses work? When you remove accountability, you actually do a tremendous amount of harm, And you continue perpetuating the cycle. I would say the most effective thing we could do, if we really wanted to help these communities, is to make policies that encourage healthy, 2-parent homes. The results will become quickly evident. Crime will fall, poverty will fall and there will be a positive effect that will gain momentum. Let's stop paying families *only* if a father isn't present in the home.

[@ronaldcoleman312]

@@jazeenharal6013 I largely agree with your statement. Your message is approved lol

[@garciac4211]

People always criticizing black activists about the nonviolent protest.don't have the time to be polite when my people are dying

[@Eric-tq3vn]

Nonviolent? They're pretty violent actually and are taking their anger out on other citizens protesting and the police as if that's going to change anything for the better. Please, use logic while protesting and protest against the people who have the power to change laws and actually make a difference.

[@orangecounty7144]

@b ray You're an idiot, there's citizens killing other citizens everywhere in the world, wether its gang related or just someone getting robbed. This is against the government "police" killing unarmed people caused they feared for their lives, Lol and officer safety, Lol and getting away with it. Idiots like you that probably bitch about athletes not standing during the national anthem but don't say shit about our flag being desecrated by all law enforcement here in the USA by modifying it and putting a blue line across..

[@mdm1074]

So, it's about 8,500 cops per year arrested for abuse of power and corruption. And then that's only what's known about in the US. The NRA has done nothing to fight for black American gun rights in places like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit and these places have horrible histories of police corruption stemming from the very core of police departments. To prove their point, all they'd have to do is spend a few weekends in these areas, but they don't care. They'll say it's not systemic, but all the data is pointing to minorities and what they identity with being looked at as nothing but a threat in America and usually by the same Americans complaining about multiculturalism and how only white culture is under attack. Same race crime will always be prevalent in every culture and people in America. Look at Jonny Depp and Amber Heard. Men being scum, women lying about men being scum, etc. Look at Trump and the women coming out against him, same with Biden, they don't attack people/women of color.

[@thewokeagenda]

got no time 😤😤😤 black people are only 18% of America but the majority in jail? 🤔🤔

[@markcangila1613]

@b ray That's due to socieoeconomic issues caused by systemic racism.

[@L2.Lagrange]

Its great to see Joran and Kobi still working together against crime and evil in America. Excellent

[@firetarrasque4667]

BE GAY DO CRIME

[@treeblinn]

@@firetarrasque4667 Makes sense

[@Smackskull]

@3.14 Dragon usually it’s do crime be gay once you get to prison

[@firetarrasque4667]

@@Smackskull Kill this one first

[@reginamartinez6482]

To put it simply...most productive conversation I've seen in a very long time. I enjoyed watching two people absorbing what they were hearing without the eagerness of just wanting to say what they wanted to say. Thank you for that experience.

[@vdrake1963]

In the 1960s, open carry in California ended when the Black Panthers walked armed into the State Government when Ronald Reagan was governor. They were locked out of the building even though it was legal.

[@manuelortiz5164]

That law only banned the open carring of a "loaded" firearm. Complete open carry (ban) of a "unloaded" firearm was in the early 2000's I belieave.

[@mdm1074]

So, it's about 8,500 cops per year arrested for abuse of power and corruption. And then that's only what's known about in the US. The NRA has done nothing to fight for black American gun rights in places like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit and these places have horrible histories of police corruption stemming from the very core of police departments. To prove their point, all they'd have to do is spend a few weekends in these areas, but they don't care. They'll say it's not systemic, but all the data is pointing to minorities and what they identity with being looked at as nothing but a threat in America and usually by the same Americans complaining about multiculturalism and how only white culture is under attack. Same race crime will always be prevalent in every culture and people in America. Look at Jonny Depp and Amber Heard. Men being scum, women lying about men being scum, etc. Look at Trump and the women coming out against him, same with Biden, they don't attack people/women of color.

[@sha1841]

Racists try to criminalize anything Black 🙄

[@BreuckelensFinest]

Don't forget that the culture of police in america is deeply rooted in slavery with the "Overseer" policing over the slaves. The Overseer (officer), in the movie "12 years a slave" was on a high horse, wearing a star badge on his chest, with a Whip at his side (Baton) & a pistol in his holster. So it is embedded in the DNA of american society to keep people of color in line by the Officer's/Overseer's.

[@baltimoredrummer1]

Orchestrated by the NRA

[@bboyauron]

Kobi's handling of this throughout was so good. His careful word choice, his way of describing the position he was in as both black man and journalist. Just so good. Really really impressed

[@dr.z1657]

Forget the acting career, we need people like Kobi Libii in politics.

[@joopreebiden6336]

Agreed. Kobi is a great wonderful journalists that would never have bias and twist the truth for the left.

[@alalalala57]

@@joopreebiden6336 *right

[@Atmatan]

Weirdly, most actors make great politicians. It's just a matter of which side they end up on...

[@kellymeissner7676]

I enjoyed your work as a comedian, and still do - but omg, I LOVE your work as a journalist. This evolution of your work is phenomenal!

[@michaelfromamerica2371]

I'm watching two people dissect the situation where the reality did not fit their narrative and they found it really difficult to put the proper spin on it. if this is impressive to you then I guess you get hard for transparency?

[@notorio526]

@@michaelfromamerica2371 Projection.

[@lewiespearman]

Why can't regular basic cable news shows approach issues and topics like these two guys?

[@msb4838]

@@lewiespearman (they don't have an incentive to educate the populace and also to some extent they think ) people don't have the attention span.

[@marksheppard6498]

He asked, “ Did you fear Islamic terrorism happening here?” Well, did people fear anything happening at a concert in Vegas? Did people fear anything happening when they went to church one Sunday morning,? Did anyone have fear of anything happening on 9/11? You keep being s victim..I’ll be prepared!

[@swk1100]

The Awkward moment when, a comedy channel makes more serious news then a news channel.

[@TheMotorgoat1]

Comedy central is ridiculously biased and agenda plagued.

[@bryant4310]

Shut up, both of u

[@victoriacarter905]

Cause this whole thing is a TRAGIC JOKE

[@dkMansell96]

TheMotorgoat1 You think this video has an agenda?

[@swk1100]

@@dkMansell96 Don't you know about black illuminati? :)

[@LuckyDogProductions]

This is great guys, "THE NEWS "never has in depth, calm, smart discussions like this...EVER. Keep up the dialogue. NICE WORK

[@gsmith6595]

"The News" is just supposed to tell you the facts collected by broadcast time about something that has happened in society....."Opinion News" is talking about "The News" with their opinion and "leading" (because frankly it's a buyer's market) you the direction they want you to think about the topic.... Please be aware of the difference!

[@St1ckY72]

@@gsmith6595 so...basically there are no actual "news sources"...im honestly kinda fine with u knowing the difference haha

[@jazeenharal6013]

Matt...they literally presented one side and ignored the most important question. This wasn't a news report, this was an indoctrination session to make you think a certain way. The facts they talked about were cherry-picked and there was a slight attempt at an illusion of fairness. (Not to mention a whole whole whole bunch of unsubstantiated, un-backed-up claims)

[@dustinpansen9902]

One of the most honest conversations I have seen on American television, thank you

[@phunchurchgirl]

I really hope more whites have these types of conversations and work on resolving this issue of racism

[@brandonnash4455]

@@phunchurchgirl the only problem is you can't be in denial that's why it's so many don't have the conversation cuz they don't believe that it's even the real!

[@carrieullrich5059]

Each generation gets a bit better, but waiting for the klans kids brainwashing to die out is definitely a seventh generation task, and since the Klan ran the Indiana and Colorado state government up through 1950, we're only at the third generation removed from the deliberate racists.

[@audraarr7066]

@@phunchurchgirl I’ve read and agree with the statement (I’m paraphrasing) that we need to stop seeing racism as something we sympathize with black people for and instead see it as a problem white people need to address and correct.

[@elijahnakumura4375]

@@carrieullrich5059 I mean..they’re still around so it’ll be a minute before that happens. Also the Klan isn’t even the top of the food chain compared to that overall ideology and how it’s embedded into the foundation of this nation.

[@FComandeer]

I'm an Iranian who for the past 4 or 5 years have been an observer of Jordan's evolution from a comic journalist to a real life activist. When I see these self proclaimed "good guys with guns" in Texas, or wherever in far away America, my first reaction is: So! It's an internal affair for those people. It's none of my concern. But, the experience of having endured a repressive regime, tells me that this idea of "protecting against terrorism" is a knife with both edges sharp. The American propaganda calls "Islamic terrorists" and the Islamic states call them "Armed to their teeth enemy". And there we have it; the loop of violence is formed and fear is mongered once again on both sides, and as the almighty king of the world once said "good people on both sides". It's a depressing sight, but, it feels good to see people like Jordan who are not willing to give up. I hope I can be as progressive and willful as you guys. VIVE LA RESISTANCE!

[@jennifer7685]

Uncle Fairy that is a terrific example. It's really funny, the left is all about activism, and stopping the violence by making a more equal world. But the right, who seems to hold all the gun holding authority (police and soldiers lean Republican) claim that they need their guns to stand up to the government. I'm afraid if things keep getting worse, we're going to be defenseless when they demonize us. But you are right, if we had more guns, they label us a threat and justify locking us up for that... We're sitting on a powder keg.

[@jasoncano527]

Jennifer no, the left doesn’t know how the real world works, there will be no end of racism, get used to it, we are humans, we are selfish, equality is impossible. The left also wants the government to have more care over the citizens, but the issue with that is they’ll get too comfortable and want more power, and they will not let us have the democracy we should have, the right is for the people, the left is for the governments selfish acts, you lot aren’t progressive

[@emeraldkat2167]

@@jasoncano527 You're incorrect. At least as far as race in the US is concerned. Eventually, everyone will be so mixed race that there won't be any way to tell who is who anymore (think Dr. Seuss's Sneetches). The issue with these discussions is that people on the right believe that there is an important hierarchy to the world that must exist and everyone has to play their part (whether that means you are a poor, black mom or a rich white guy). The left doesn't hold that to be true. the left wants everyone to have the ability to move up, regardless of where you started out in life (as well as the opportunity to have certain basic things as human rights - like healthcare). Consequently, there is a divide between whether you as a person truly believe that everyone should get basic opportunities and be treated fairly, or whether you think that economic classes are inevitable and should be happy to contribute to the system as it is.

[@jennifer7685]

Jason Cano "realists" is just fatalism with a catchy name. Society has changed drastically in the last few thousands years, and hundred years. We've made progress because progress is possible, and it has happened through compassion and increased awareness of the larger picture. I'm sorry that you don't believe that the world can be a better place, but I disagree.

[@jasoncano527]

Emerald kat and with a leftist government you’ll be stuck in the same position due to the welfare, the handouts, people relying on a government for something will never be able to move up a class, the left is flawed. I disagree that all people in the right feel people should play a role and stick with it, but that’s not the case at all, only boring simpletons believe that. In fact the right focuses more on peoples independence and freedom, the left wants more government.

[@nighthawk4744]

The 13-yr old kid looks like he’s struggling to regurgitate the mantra his parents shoved down his throat.

[@mikagami69]

That's pretty much what all 13-year-olds do, so calm the fuck down.

[@szaing4029]

@@mikagami69 it is our own choice whether to believe what our parents say I'm 13 I'm not closed-minded like my parents but there are others who choose to believe their parents and refuse to learn about the world around them.

[@Justicejuice179]

G. Andaluz that’s true. But that’s also why most sane people don’t toss their little out of shape 13 year olds out in a street with what he thinks is maybe an ar-15. If you can’t handle the responsibility of keeping your kids body and weight healthy you and your kid probably can’t handle the responsibility of him walking around with a long range weapon.

[@BigJimbo106]

He'll most likely be the next one on the news who ends up murdering classmates in a mass shooting.

[@brianpowell6058]

@@mikagami69 that kid is 13, too young to have a licence to own a firearm, and therefore too young to have a license to open carry. He wasn't even sure what the weapon was that he was carrying. He admitted he'd never practised using the weapon, which means he's had no training in firearm use and safety. His parents should be imprisoned for putting him and the general public at risk and he should be removed to the care of the CPS.

[@danielgreenwell2117]

I think the Cosplay thing is accurate...like scary accurate...I know a guy like that and I once asked him, “why didn’t you just join the military like I did?” His response was, “I didn’t want to die”

[@ItRemindMeOfHome]

First, thank you for your service. Second, thank you for confronting one of those idiots about it. They won't listen when anyone else tells them to leave their guns at home because they aren't police of military.

[@danielgreenwell2117]

For me it’s always a training thing because I am a combat vet and I know no one can pick up a rifle and adequately protect anyone. I did hundreds of hours of training (technically thousands but the Navy doesn’t count actual hours of training, it’s like a credit hours thing)...these people aren’t making our society safe because protecting people isn’t a hobby, it’s a full time job because your tactics are evolving.

[@saphired02]

@@danielgreenwell2117 well said.

[@shahnawazansari119]

Good to see nice conversation between nice people.. have a nice day

[@ronaldharris6569]

I did see a third infantry patch on the gun harness one of the cowards had on

[@gl0bal7474]

Kobi Libii is a brilliant orator. He has an uncanny ability to deconstruct some very difficult/complex topics

[@modiabcomedy]

That’s that Yale education

[@lmichelle80sbaby]

I hope he goes further.... we need more educated, informed and confident speakers on the American main stage/media landscape today!

[@elijahdonaldson2518]

Heavily agree!

[@freemefreeme8301]

If you hadn't gone to public school you'd be able to figure out these topics yourself. Wake up and think for yourself.

[@erikv1974]

@@freemefreeme8301 imagine being so insecure that upon someone complimenting a person's abilities, you rush to assumptions and essentially accuse them of being stupid as if they don't understand these things.

[@chantaltestman6916]

I 100% understood kobi when he started to talking about the legitimate feat of being a black gun owner and carrying a weapon. I keep remembering the incident that happen a few years back when a black couple was pulled over with a child in the back. The black gentle told him he had a weapon and he had proff he was lincense to carry his firearm. He still was shot, in cold blood in front of his girlfriend and her child. Who was sitting feet away from him in the back seat. Were was the NRA? Were was these pro-gun 2nd amendment jerk wads then? Most disturbing part people try to sympathize with the officer. Who did everything wrong in that situation and it cost a man's life. Thay little girl in back seat and her mother forever traumatized by witnessing a murder. That is a real feat black gun owners have to face and depsite doing the right thing can still get you killed.

[@sirslickrock]

Chantal Testman Philando Castile is his name.

[@Liberal_pan]

Source?

[@jenniferpatterson4964]

not_a_real_name Source for what?

[@Liberal_pan]

Jennifer Patterson The incident he mentioned

[@jenniferpatterson4964]

not_a_real_name The murder of Philando Castile? It only made national news...were you out of the country for an extended period? All you really have to is google his name, and any number of reputable news stories appear. Here’s a source: www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005176538/dash-camera-shows-moment-philando-castile-is-killed.html

[@ma0932]

Kobi Libii's opinions and points are soo accurate and well explained

[@Arosukir6]

I'm listening like, "this wonderful man might be a damn genius!"

[@TheRealZJE313]

Now u see the big Difference between White America and Black America

[@Arosukir6]

@@TheRealZJE313 Already knew the difference, my friend. I'm just blown away by how well he's able to put it into words. Those kinds of explanations feel so hard to get to when you have to spend the majority of the conversation trying to keep the white person from shutting down over the "I agree with their concern, but I don't like the way they do it" thing. Also: *White America and Non-White/Brown America. FTFY.

[@TheRealZJE313]

@@Arosukir6 it's like I told a white guy I work with( He soports the police 100 percent no matter what they do because his pops was a police officer) and with that attitude white America and Black America will never be able to come to as all Americans that soport the Constitution and equal rights for every one.

[@TheRealZJE313]

@@Arosukir6 and just look at what happened to the Central Park five how the police and DA railroaded 5 black teens and made them confess to a rape they did not commit and spent over a decade in jail.and the tactics that police used on these miners to get confession is insane then on top of that the DA was 100 percent on board.I can tell you one thing when black folks see that documentary they will have a real dis like for police and I am talking real black folks that care about black issues not yo Candace Owens and Larry Elder and others alike that are sell outs and boot licks

[@chrisanderson3415]

Jordan has evolved. He's very much aware of his blind spots as a white male - and even pokes fun at it. However, he's trying and as a person of color; we NEED more allies like him. Race relations is a dialogue, not a one and done process.

[@krystalharris1259]

Chris Anderson What color_(Race) are you?

[@chrisanderson3415]

I'm Asian

[@GENESISISRAEL-bk5gs]

Lol sike everybody knows this information so him saying this does what for the aa community

[@kenneth6102]

Chris Anderson However, racism is a monologue, as discriminatory beliefs are extensions of self-consciousness. Not a good idea to complicate things than necessary to dodge individual responsibilities.

[@JackMMcMullan]

People of minority races are so ridiculous and say things like “that’s what a white person with security would say” but if a white person said “that’s what a black gang member would say” you guys would freak out

[@colincampbell3199]

"You're walking around like John Wick. And you want MORE rights?"

[@mars3403]

dude looked so lost when he said that haha

[@ChristopherJones-bu3ej]

We are just like the police. Except... Knut's!

[@Reese842]

🤣

[@PCgamer923]

I was thinking what more does he want, the right to start shooting animals for fun or people or to carry the most powerful full automatics or to use grenades.

[@Franciscodelporto]

Nice

[@lonnieoglesby1105]

It is a Black and White thing. I love guns (I am Black), BUT I would never open carry my high capacity semi-automatic rifles. Wish as we may, RACE matters.

[@klarastern5597]

I don't care what colour your skin is.. it's absolutely mad in my eyes to arm everyone! The US has a problem with guns.. and gun deaths... and it's not going to be solved by more guns.

[@klarastern5597]

@@Apereal14 very well put... But the problem are also people (e.g. on Fox), who repeat constantly, that all this is bullshit and make it even worse by claiming white people have it worse now.. The shit people tell on that channel.. it's jaw dropping to me.. I'm German and I can't imagine having anything that crass here... So.. what I wanted to say is, that people, who are behind Fox' agenda, actively work on not letting people correct or even acknowledge their bias... and it's also important to not be some hypersensitive PC bitch, who cries "you disgusting racist", when people are figuring out their biases... they will just get defensive and every potential for development/growth gets crushed...

[@MelNDiscourse]

I find it so funny and offensive. The white ppl that commented to you saying, you wouldn't open carry b/c race will make a difference of you make it home. They are invalidating your experience as a blk person. As if they know more about it than you. The audacity of these... OMG.

[@nandansho]

What's that like to be a Blackman with no Balls?🤔

[@RNRENTPROMO]

The funny part about all this is, the people in Oregon were considered Patriots (while threatening law enforcement). Let's be honest if a group of black, latino or Islamic men walking the street with guns. They're getting arrested, killed or guns removed. It's the same like having 5 white men in hoodies vs 5 black men in hoodies. Want to know which group would get arrested first?

[@katelynnehansen8115]

26:00 I wish my family and friends could understand this. I live and grew up in a very white part of Colorado. I constantly feel that tension and the sense that I’m not welcome, and my all white family and friends are so often completely oblivious to it. When I’ve tried to discuss it, they almost imply that I am imagining things, even though they are aware of my history of discrimination, and violence against me including having rocks thrown at me and being run off the road by skin heads TWICE.

[@emeraldkat2167]

I'm so sorry for what you've dealt with. Being from CO too, I have to just add that most of CO is pretty damn white. I grew up in the very northeast corner (like just outside of NE) and I kinda get the issues facing black people here (obviously not to the degree of those who experience issues daily). I was best friends with my town's only black girl in elementary school. I saw even my own family's reactions to our friendship. Eventually it led to me losing my friend (which still pains me). I was only 8 when that happened, but I still think of it often. My family put restrictions on how and when we could play together, and whether we could have sleepovers, etc. I still recall her mom telling me the last time I saw them that she felt so sorry for me, and that she knew it wasn't my fault and not to let my father's ideas of race affect my own judgement. I didn't have a friend like her again until high school. It hurt me more than I can say, and once I realized what my father had said, I dropped our relationship for nearly 10 years in sheer anger and frustration. While I now live just outside of Boulder, as a teen, was targeted by police often in that small town. I never once got in trouble, but was constantly harassed, detained, and even once, sexually assaulted (on the street, in public, at 17) by 3 male officers. So I wonder if it is the side of me that has dealt with such violence and abuses of power along with my childhood experiences, that have shaped my perspective towards how minorities feel.

[@ALEXX7843]

Sorry to hear this! But it's not uncommon when dealing with White family members. Which their ignorance equals for damage for their family and friends if color. They were "Gaslighting" you! It's not ok! You have a right to express and share the experience of bigotry/racism. Don't let them silence you! I believe and support you! 👌🙏💓

[@katelynnehansen8115]

Emerald kat that sounds like a confusing thing to experience as a child. I remember a friend in elementary was told she wasn’t allowed to play with me anymore. No loss, as she broke my arm due to shaking the gymnastics bar I was on, as I tried to get down to give her a turn. But I still remember being shocked that she broke my arm, but yet I was the one who shouldn’t be around her. 🙄 I’m glad that you formed your own opinions rather than let your father make them for you! Cops can be the absolute worst, and I’m sorry you went through that.

[@katelynnehansen8115]

ALEXX7843 they have the best of intentions and I’m not here to bad mouth them. They just don’t experience it and I think sometimes they’re so bothered with the idea that everything I encounter is real, that it’s easier to say that maybe I’m just exaggerating it to myself. But to be honest, a lot of my childhood self-hate over my race, came from the racist things my mom said, and the fact I knew zero black people to counter the negative image I got from peers and media. My mom was raised by southern bigots, is blind, and my dad was just a short fling, not some proud love-over- hate romance story. Last year, at 28, I finally confronted her about how her words made me ashamed to be black, and she was truly remorseful. Her comments were thoughtless and a direct result of her upbringing, and I’m glad I finally had the courage to say something.

[@rvanhees89]

@@katelynnehansen8115 that takes a lot of courage, I admire that :)

[@Gumby518]

On the Daily Show I got the sense Klepper was a smartass. Over time I think he may just be smart.

[@szarkel]

What a fantastic piece. Kobi Libii is a fantastic interviewer and has a very nuanced perception of the whole thing. I felt he was teaching Jordan Klepper.

[@emeraldkat2167]

It was great! It truly surprised me that Jordan had such a negative reaction to the black group's message. I guess it has a lot to do with being able to draw on your own experiences and empathize with how people react to these issues. Truly fascinating.

[@Sandesh98147]

jordan and his crew are amazing interviewers.

[@web-angel]

Yes, he's very perceptive in this.

[@karinagutierrez7134]

Absolutely. I found it interesting how closed off Jordan's body language was at various times while maintaining eye contact and staying engaged. He was clearly learning and feeling discomfort by what he was learning.

[@manxx25]

@@karinagutierrez7134 Agreed. Some seem unwilling to recognize that. They don't seem to get past he body language and ignore his willingness to listen, engage, and produce the piece in the first place.

[@mikelunch1693]

The FBI's designation and monitoring of this group sounds like a remix of what they did with black Panthers. An educated black man that's not afraid of them is they're biggest fear

[@crowfoot7355]

Facts

[@TheDesciple30]

Preach brother

[@macmiller1678]

Black panthers were armed to the teeth too! Guns have been in this country forever. Every American should be entitled to gun ownership.

[@f.spencer3925]

Bingo!!!!!

[@simmonsgalloway8466]

@@macmiller1678 Black Panthers were targeted because they exercised their constitutional right to bear arms.I'm sure you just forgot to add that part.

[@makhan89]

To Rakem's and Guerilla Mainframe's point: for many communities in the US, police act more as an occupying/oppressive force rather than as simple peacekeepers. In that context, it's really not all that shocking if someone is happy or celebrates harm done to their occupiers. You may think what he said is deplorable, but you probably also haven't been placed in a jail cell for no good reason, stopped, or racially profiled because of how you look.

[@CutlassOutdoors]

Guerrilla Mainframe’s protest model is so effective that it derailed your intended documentary on the effectiveness of open carry as an activist tool and instead had you discussing their actual cause for 40 minutes. I would say that their protest style is very effective, to the point that guns are really secondary.

[@WhollyAppropriate]

This is a great observation. Totally agreed! The abolition movement is similar in that it is also a radical and provocative rhetorical stance that prompts engagement, but in the case of abolition I think it's largely an accurate and literal descriptor too.

[@alalalala57]

Maybe because the issue of open carry is already intertwined with their cause and activism?

[@charlenegraham1923]

Expvideo1, right-on!!!

[@errata101]

Right on....

[@sebaschan-uwu]

The real question is does open carry count for swords??

[@giantnanomachine]

So, here's Washington. And there's a show on Comedy Central. Guess where the nuanced discussion on gun rights and violence is happening.

[@justanotherhuman8918]

Some of our comedians are stepping into the void of moral leadership

[@diptarkadas5193]

@Toby Thompson Somebody once said, "we used to listen to politicians and laugh at comedians, now we laugh at politicians and listen to comedians."

[@ramseysaiymeh3377]

Straight the fuck up, Tu'che sir

[@meryanncarrillo3585]

So that cop when got into the apartment and saw EVERYTHING wasn’t hers, shouldn’t that have given her a hint?

[@BigMac-ph6ls]

Agreed,She shouldn’t even be a greeter at Walmart ( because she would be at Target ) let alone a cop

[@alivejokesonyoucom3170]

That cop had to be drunk! The 1st thing I see on my door is 17c. Which is my apartment number. "We as a white community understand, and we will fight to keep you out of jail. America the great divider!

[@haydenmary4849]

how did she get into an apartment that wasn't hers in the first place? was the door unlocked?

[@Eurisko229]

What was she on.

[@suzawilo]

@@Eurisko229 High on whiteness?

[@ketsuekikumori9145]

"Scratches an itch in your broken masculinity." Shots fired. Pun intended.

[@klarastern5597]

yes.. sadly very much on point.. :(

[@sabrinakeys250]

It's a lot of public servants that fit that description.

[@dontaylor7315]

"Texas, where the state bird is a revolver" lol

[@ispartacus1337]

With it being Texas, that sounded so believable I had to Google it to see if it was true. Its not lol the state bird is a northern mockingbird.

[@Generalindifference]

🤣🤣🤣

[@statosphereonline2008]

@@ispartacus1337... Often shot to death for food and sport with all manner of rifles and pistols in the great state of Texas! XD

[@puckelberry]

These guys are phenomenal and hearing this breakdown is really interesting. When I saw Guerilla mainframe in this my anxiety level was higher than the constitutional carry people and that really does highlight an unconscious bias I have and need to work on see why that is. That's why I love shows like this they expand my world view

[@hunterofendermen367]

That was an incredible amount of courage for you to admit the unconscious bias you displayed, and the fact that you admitted it means you are one step in the right direction. Keep stepping outside your comfort zone and you'll find that your comfort zone gets larger. Remember, the key to solving racism is to be uncomfortable; to step away from your zone.

[@mrs.w8193]

puckelberry it’s so sad because I unconsciously felt the same anxiety for a split second and I am black. But then again my anxiety was high for both groups equally because I hate guns. I just hate guns period no matter who is carrying it.

[@jn3673]

Mrs. W Do you hate guns even when police carry them?

[@EvilVillainInc]

J N I do. I’m thankful I live in a country where police don’t carry firearms (tasers and pepper spray only). I couldn’t imagine seeing firearms carried by police and normal people on a daily basis. Fk that! BTW I use firearms regularly on farms and shooting ranges. Peace.

[@jn3673]

EvilVillianInc I’m curious...what country do you live in?

[@sdk0524]

The black experience has always been regulated to protect the feelings and ideals of whites. We are the only group that society demands to turn the other cheek.

[@peaceandlove544]

White Americans at the top fear black Americans because they know you are superior to them in many skills and ways, so if you have real access as a whole to good education and opportunities and thus move up socially, economically politically, they will become a real minority and loose their power and priviliges and also they think they you will make them suffer.

[@grisflyt]

It has always been that way in America. Jefferson was afraid of what freed slaves would lead to. The Haitian revolution scared white Americans. Jefferson imposed sanctions on Haiti because he wanted it to fail. The problem isn't that Jefferson and other individuals were cunts or that such individuals still exist. The problem is that those views are still seen as natural and understandable. Even "good" white people hold this view.

[@yomamascupoftea9459]

@@peaceandlove544 Exactly. We are oppressed because our oppressors' survival depends on it.

[@peaceandlove544]

@@yomamascupoftea9459 Their survival as the powerfull elite, there is. It is in your genes your physical and spiritual extraordinary strength to survive and excell. Other countries except in America see that clearly.

[@SilentC90]

@@grisflyt Jefferson literally had a slave mistress named the Hemmings look at up truestory.

[@cl20999]

I've lived in Texas my whole life and don't have an aversion to guns in anyway, and do support certain aspects of gun rights and ownership. That said, I always find myself incredibly uncomfortable when I see a person open carry. I feel like the idea of it is very idealist, I can understand the notion that it's a protected right and whatnot. But in reality, when I see a person open carry, I can't help but feel that person is paranoid or in edge about something because they're preparing for an altercation as an inevitable. When I grab my keys and my phone to leave the house every day, I can't imagine also grabbing my gun and feeling like I might need to kill someone with it today if threatened.

[@DomCapoDM]

CL great points.

[@boiledelephant]

This sums it up, it's the ideal vs the emotional reality. We like to imagine that everyone's past racist impulses, and we like to imagine that everyone can carry a gun and see guns and all trust each other and relax. In reality, racism goes deep into our psychology, and the fear of guns goes deep. You want to be able to surpass those impulses, but they're there, and they're ingrained.

[@OmniMale]

Hmmm. Sounds like a you issue that no one should care about. If you're that paranoid, perhaps you should get a gun. 🤣🤣

[@cl20999]

@@OmniMale I'm not paranoid about it, I'm observant of others. You missed the whole point, I feel just fine leaving the house without a gun. It's a worry and fear I don't live with, unlike the people that feel the need to carry at all times.

[@OmniMale]

@@cl20999 usual tripe from someone who's never owned a gun. I didn't miss your point. You point was stupid and nonsensical. People carry for many reasons. Yes some carry to feel strong. But then some ppl lift weights to feel strong. Or learn to box or mma. Should we ban those things as well? Some carry due to herrendous and traumatic experiences and carrying gives them a sense of security. Believe it or not some ppl carry so they can protect ppl like you. Some ppl carry just because they want to see the world burn. You're ridiculous. We don't live in an ideal world. I personally don't like open carry as I don't like ppl knowing what I am carrying. But it's a choice that perfectly fine as long as it's don't legally. Ppl who are coming to shoot you don't walk around with their weapons holstered or in a rest position while buying coffee. It's not the gun owners fault if ppls situation awareness is not up to par. Not their fault that you all follow like sheep to feel secure. Ppl have a right to carry. A right to protect their lives, their loved ones and even you. No citizen should ever be bothered for acting legally. The constitution covers the right to bear arms. It doesn't protect your feelings from being hurt or offended. So which stance trumps here? Your little feelings or our constitution?

[@Wallrat]

Jordan and Kobi - this was phenomenal. It is an incredibly important conversation that we need to have as a country. Thank you both for your honesty and thought reflections!

[@natw5040]

The black dude puts his point across perfectly

[@natw5040]

@Burr Anderson yes very eloquently dear.

[@nzsooz3884]

@@natw5040 Whoosh

[@roseharvey2664]

The whole exercise is interesting. These guys are both eloquent and bring out interesting angles on the mad issue of guns and racism.

[@trevspeaks3]

One of the best videos on this subject I've seen in a while. I wish you could hijack mainstream news station and put this on primetime block.

[@Osiris064]

Malcolm X: surveyed by the FBI, assassinated at the age of 39. MLK: surveyed by the FBI, assassinated at the age of 39. "We must stop the rise of the Black Messiah" - J Edgar Hoover (director of the FBI)

[@diamondsprince]

🤔 no correlation, carry on citizen!

[@alalalala57]

Nothing to see here, move along.

[@gbarcalow]

They tried many times to quite John Lewis.

[@keeponliving2481]

Don’t forget Chairman Fred.

[@allenlavine1351]

They kill all our black leaders they beat killed rape our leaders that gave rise to the black panthers they didn’t stop tell all them was dead in prison or on drugs form that we got gangs now America have to deal with what they made

[@joshuaotero8794]

I really enjoy this format it takes the approach of a cable television showl. Mixes it with the long form conversation of a podcast. which I truly enjoy.

[@Sandesh98147]

leave it to klepper to take his style of field pieces and incorporate it with podcast theme. Hes a genius.

[@pseudo_ra]

This is amazing! Truly. AMERICA NEEDS these types of conversations! My only doubt is in people’s ability to truly understand and appreciate the intellectual gravitas of this episode. Unfortunately, a dangerous amount of the population is just stupid because they don’t know how to think critically.

[@dadbodfitness316]

Love this especially when Jordan realizes his ignorance when it came to the fact that the police have been killing, bragging and laughing about killing black people for decades and when the black guy was laughing about it he was saying welcome to our world I am not condoning the killing of anybody and I condemn it I wouldn't wish it upon anybody but that is what WE still go through in this day and age!!!

[@nzsooz3884]

So you say Jordan but not Kobi just 'the black guy'?

[@newodavies4324]

@@nzsooz3884 probably didn't remember his name, I haven't watched all the video but I am pretty jordans name comes a lot and maybe Kobis doesn't 🤷‍♂️

[@santajimi]

@@nzsooz3884 He wasn't refering to Kobi but to the activist Kobi was interviewing who said what Chima was paraphrasing.

[@natturner5376]

He don't understand someone that claims to understands 100 years of police brutality then you have to use jedi mind tricks as rationality that was to much

[@TheLastWalenta]

What does Klepper have to do to get more than 483 views a day after posting? What am I missing?

[@VegasPrintDaddy]

advertise

[@RazorSkinned86]

Time. It takes time and sadly many networks don't give shows long enough to really get a foothold online. Organically it seems to take normally three seasons or so for a traditionally formatted show to have it content to start getting a real foothold on KZbin. Ofc, if Comedy Central really is taking the show seriously they could have members of the show start showing up on various podcasts and KZbin shows, to promote the show. They could do it really easily because Comedy Central and Viacom already have a lot of shows that are very popular on KZbin. They could also start having other shows that are part of their network start to actively send viewers this way. It's kinda sad that original KZbin creators are much better at this type of platform synergy than the big networks. This shows producers and digital team need to do some research on understanding the KZbin algorithms and start talking advantage of them to get their show associated by KZbin with other popular content. Once this happens, KZbin will start sending new viewers from established popular content to Klepper videos. Often something as simple as having the show mentioned in the descriptions, titles, and tags of other shows will do the job.

[@ma0932]

Its like opera or ballet ..it has more artistic value but its not what most ppl are into.

[@mikegarcia7037]

Logic, reason and facts are hard to swallow for some people.

[@Belioyt]

Our instant gratification society wants short and sweet.

[@Cajek2]

A lot of it has to do with America’s coddling of the altright

[@ManiacalViolet]

Yes, let's call them what they are: fascist white supremacists

[@Cajek2]

@@ManiacalViolet Amen

[@trvpyn]

That are somehow not as concerning as Facebook posts

[@vwhisp1394]

Next question to that kid. Is that loaded? Kid: IDK. 😬 Interview over.

[@Papillon_2010]

IKR?

[@fazziebear]

His dad laughing saying he was a great shot. Just after the kid said he’d never fired it. That’s exactly why it’s dangerous. That man put a weapon in a 13yr olds hands in a crowded place to make a point, but showed his pride over rules his responsibility for people’s safety

[@jokuvaan5175]

"Everyone knows that more guns means less shootings" - Some parodical politician in radio in GTA V

[@klarastern5597]

@@Wiggyam yes... but to actually reach a point to get all that fixed will cost a fuck tonne of life, if you don't go for the guns first (at least get some regulations done! )

[@abram730]

For the most part countries with more guns have less murders and countries with less guns have more murders. There are exceptions like Japan.

[@jokuvaan5175]

@@abram730 Citations needed. Tye murder rates depend more on the wealth of average people and political stability. Poorer countries usually have usually higher murder rates. The western countries have the lowest murder rates but among them the US has the highest number of murders per capita.

[@davidsimms2806]

@@jokuvaan5175 do you have citation? Or are you using the one unverified"study" that was not peer reviewed and was found to be not factual?

[@camillegraves9257]

The power and greatness of melanin has always been feared and envied...

[@realblackpilot1349]

That’s y people tan right for color ?lol calm down there snowflake

[@dencyleadbetter2494]

@@realblackpilot1349 ​ Brandon Miller Tan or chocolate is cool.. Black can be on the right person but y'all wrong about your skin being envied and some kind of super skin. Black skin repulses the sun not allowing Vit. D to be absorbed causing all kinds of diseases and deficiency. Rickets, claudation of the arteries, heart disease, diabetes. Vitamin D deficiency in African Americans is widespread,3 and deficiencies in vitamin D are indeed associated with obesity, impaired glucose metabolism, insulin resistance, and defective insulin secretion.

[@larrywize]

@@realblackpilot1349 They tan but not enough to be black genius. Just like poc always dying their hair blonde smh

[@dpugh7618]

@dency leadbetter It Seems your very generalized and one-sided notion of human biology and anthropology is, at best, biased, and at worst, White supremacist, in nature. You associate various diseases/disorders along race lines in obvious effort to diminish the value of melanin, specifically darker skin pigmentations. But you failed in numerous ways. For example, you failed to mention the opposite end of the human color spectrum bell curve at which the absence or even near absence of melanin (whiteness) correlates with abnormally high rates of melanoma (Lin & Fisher, 2007; etc) especially when individuals with this trait expose themselves to daylight and/or live in tropical or subtropical climates. Also, you failed to mention that non-whites tend to develop those conditions you mentioned in northern regions but not in tropical regions. You also failed to note that many countries with majority black and brown populations have significantly lower rates of obesity than the majority white, U.S.. Also, you failed to note that correlation doesn’t not equal causation. There are multiple factors related to disease and disorder in addition to skin pigment, for example nutrition, and psychological and physiological stress, all of which are related to wealth, which in the U.S. is disparate on the basis of not only race/ethnicity but wealth rooted in a slave-based economy. In short, your perspective is short sighted (probably in correlation to your level of wealth) and juvenile; your argument itself is racist; and your lack of empathy is savage. Now, back to the 2A argument...

[@dpugh7618]

larrywize 5. It is the TYRP-1 gene that is causal in the development of blonde hair. It’s a gene that is carried by non-European people’s and it expresses en masse among darker pigmented Melanesian, Native American and Australian people. Interestingly though, this gene is not responsible for blonde hair in Europeans. In this group, it’s a genetic mutation that is responsible for blonde-colored hair. So when Black/Brown people choose to wear blonde hair it’s an expression of homage to their own genetic experience. You should probably stick with the 2A debate. It’s less complicated. 😊

[@rickya.livingston5110]

I am halfway through this segment and I will say that the African-American host is definitely Ivy League middle-class with his diction and description of the situation but the information he’s dropping is very on point. I will give him props for the flow & big props for the program tackling this issue. Thanks

[@kenken1704]

Lily Rose he may be mixed but he’s clearly seen and treated as a black person in society.

[@kenken1704]

Nic Rellek the black guy literally mentioned this in his statements lol

[@kenken1704]

Nic Rellek some of y’all be reaching lol

[@WLFGNGPHNX]

Wow it's almost like a shocker that a man of color is capable of complex thought and intricate communication 🙄😒

[@carichar87]

@Nic Rellek he's more articulate and reasonable in his points than anyone I've ever heard tackle these issues. I don't think the above commenter meant "articulate for a black guy" lol

[@adriennereed2202]

Great concept Jordan and Kobi!!!! Keep up the great field work! 🇺🇸💪🏿🇺🇸

[@RazorSkinned86]

I love it. I missed Kobi. The guy is totally a black Jordan in so many ways. Really great journalistic and comedic duo, lol.

[@ManiacalViolet]

Klepper is a white Kobi

[@lolabigcups7121]

"There's no difference between the cop and regular folks except for the cops training" Lord help up!

[@mlansfordhome]

My precise response as well when I heard that remark!

[@patrickfenton1637]

Cops training isn't anything special. Any civilian can receive far greater training than any police dept. will pay for. Many states have already instated constitutional carry and they are doing great! It's not as wild west and crazy as theyre making it appear.

[@Geraldbux-411]

And its true, the Senate is a group of entitled individual who feel their opinions are laws.

[@TwoStacks217]

There is no difference between a school bus driver and regular folks except for the school bus drivers training I understand what you're trying to say here but you can literally say that about any profession in the world

[@lolabigcups7121]

@@TwoStacks217 I was quoting one of the gun nuts in the video you obviously didn't watch.

[@eugenerhee9297]

Loved this. Always loved Klepper - always pointing out hypocrisy with humor. This highlighted Kobi Libii and he articulated views that reflect mine. Thank you Kobi for sharing your perspective.

[@TheHSoko]

Great point Mr Kepper on the double standard on guns! We saw this happen California in the 1960's when the Black Panthers used the liberal arms policies of the times to open carry during their protests. All of a sudden Reagan, who was a "cowboy", decided to legislate more strict arms policies in the State. So "carrying while black" I guess was a problem for the Republican President, former Governor. Or maybe he just got "woke" on the dangers of gun ownership without safety rails. (and this is before he was President and there was a gun assassination attempt on his life) So you realise that "extreme" Gun ownership in America, has a white male, masculinity "twang" to it at it's base. (I think its one of the deep things in American psyche...all part of the "pastural fantasy" we believe in) Maybe it's a Cowboy thing, a part of our American history, our past, the Cowboys, Western Expansion, "Freedom"....etc. But if anyone were to study the history of the West.... You would learn that like... 1 in 5 cowboys on the frontier at that time, were black.

[@hymanocohann2698]

TV shows and dime novels, read Louis La Amore's research on gun deaths in old west days, most were self inflicted or back shootings, gunfights were much more common in NYC and Chicago in those days.

[@TheHSoko]

Dennis Farris Gor sure back in the day New York was a wild town. Lots of violence and danger.

[@TheHSoko]

Emma XTC Interesting points. Very true, as a Californian, can’t forget about the Mexicans and Native Americans. The « myth » has been created thru writers and movie makers. A book I recommend is Kurt Anderson’s « Fanastyland-a 400 Retrospective »

[@shermandudley5548]

With help from the NRA

[@drehardin]

@27:50 "Makes him uncomfortable" "Not the America you grew up in" .......AKA: They didn't have rights before, why do they have em now?

[@boiledelephant]

This is a recurring trend I'm seeing here - reading racial thoughts into words that don't imply them. He could just mean that in his day, no civilians (black or white) walked the streets carrying rifles and masks to prove a point.

[@guatechino]

Eloquent, intelligent, comprehensive and empathetic... we need more of this for a strong democracy

[@sdot9105]

Cj: Some people are getting killed in churches. Jordan: Yeah, with guns. 😎

[@MRSANN2010]

#facts!

[@Jake-li7ih]

Did you notice hin immediately cut the clip right after that comment. Im guessing because the gun owner had a better come back for his side of the debate

[@WILSON-bc3cc]

@@Jake-li7ih Which would be?

[@johngibson4874]

@@WILSON-bc3cc idk. The best I can come up with is that if the church members were armed they could defend themselves. Not that I support open carry laws. Just trying to think of a plausible counter argument

[@jn3673]

Alexis Nunez Higher concentration of guns do not lead to more casualties. I own a several. I rather not give an exact count to not make anyone feel uncomfortable. And have owned many of them for over 15 years. And guess what? No one has been hurt by any of them. Guess what else? No one has been hurt by my Pitbull either. If you are a responsible person, no one will get hurt on your account. Weather it be guns, dogs or traffic accidents. People kill people, not guns. I admit there is a large lack of education some gun owners, but there is a large lack of knowledge on non gun owners as well. Just because you don’t like something or agree with it, doesn’t mean it’s wrong nor should you knock it.

[@MrPunchthru2dub]

Hands down, the most honest, insightful unbiased story I’ve ever seen/heard!

[@Lolo-ux1pw]

Kobi's perspective here is so valuable. He articulates the intricacies and nuance of these social dynamics with such detail and insight. I'm so glad he's willing to share his inner thoughts and experiences with all of us. I'm a white woman and I've grown up in a white working class community most of my life so I'm not naturally exposed to black perspectives unless I look for it. I feel more curious and challenged by this conversation. It's given me a lot to think about. Thank you for letting us see this....also thanks Jordan for being genuinely curious and emotionally authentic, I think that helped bring out some good stuff.

[@nicsho_alt3885]

Everything the dude on the bike said at the beginning was quickly debunked. Brilliant.

[@wuksgg]

"Well, people are getting killed in churches..." "Yeah, with guns!"

[@jankygyasi1]

You have a child with no practice caring a gun. They are so worried of a threat but the threat is racism

[@full_of_joy]

I was very disturbed by the 13 years old’s admission that he’d never shot an “AR” before Yet he was given the charge to protect... We need to be protected from him.

[@DonCatherman]

How do you know that kid has no training with that gun...how do you know this...???. How.....smh.. typical false statement....no point to your accusations....of no training....you have no idea if he is skilled with that weapon..none at all.i bet he has is more training then most cops....6 months is all they get..handed a gun and let loss,,,,that kid probably has yrs of training....been shooting since he could walk.....good for him..good kid in.my book...and you call him a fat pig....shame on you

[@iamanuel]

@@full_of_joy thank you

[@iamanuel]

@@DonCatherman he just said he doesn't have any training🙄

[@Papillon_2010]

Tamir Rice (12 yo black child) was shot dead by police and he had a TOY gun. This country is insane.

[@iammattlaw]

This is an incredible discourse.

[@johnnyrobinson8168]

The FBI watches Alex Jones for quality info? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zavionhibbert3482]

Big Jay ya president watches fox for all his news so why is this laughable?

[@johnnyrobinson8168]

@@zavionhibbert3482 - Good point! From laughing to crying!

[@warrenholly2200]

Yep who do you think voted trump in

[@ccburro1]

Big Jay That scares and concerns me. Alex Jones is whackjob. Right-wing.

[@ghostofsupreme]

Guys Big Jay being Sarcastic when you said that FBI watching Alex Jones quality info because he never has quality info just bs out the ass.

[@thatonedude7070]

Im still confused as to why they only showed two small clips maybe 2min from the blacc dudes verse about 15 min of white dudes. I think almost everybody watched to see how the blacc group was treated

[@robertwilliams7876]

Thank you!!!(infinity) ..I wanted to see more about G MAINFRAME... everyone keeps pointing out some vid that's 45 min. long and that has nothing really either. I want Huey P Newton gun club tee shirts, stickers and patches. For both groups.

[@politereminder6284]

Here is a good open carry while black vs white experiment kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJeYhXilpJJ4j5I

[@khxliakhxlia3605]

@@politereminder6284 oh dang its private now lol

[@politereminder6284]

@@khxliakhxlia3605 Shame! It was a good one. I'm sure there are similar ones though. Look up open carry while black experiment. In this one, they had two guys carry a rifle in the exact same town. The white guy was conversed with and then the cops went away. The black guy was made to lie on the ground, was illegally disarmed and had police guns pointed at him because he was open carrying. The _whole_ time, the black guy was calmly explaining the law to the police as they illegally disarmed him. He calmly reminded them that he did not consent to this seizure of property etc- all while lying on his stomach in the middle of the street as cops sought to embarrass and intimidate him.

[@rosakaninchen3505]

When I learned, that police training in the US is about 21 weeks, I was shocked! In my country it takes 3 years and most of the training is actually about understanding the responsibility that comes with the position and how to act properly in every situation. Hope the US will adapt that too

[@mephistophelescountcaglios1489]

The training in the USA depends on the town or state and you can Google how many people are shot per year comparing countries and based on shots fire per kill American police are bad shots

[@JELLYJIM11]

I love Klepper! He deserves his own show, hope this continues.

[@qwertyqwerty6099]

er.. he has his own show..

[@ramseysaiymeh3377]

@@qwertyqwerty6099 lolz I'm sure "JELLYJIM11" was just being facetious..... facetiousadjective US /fəˈsi·ʃəs/ not seriously meaning what you say, usually in an attempt to be humorous or to trick someone:

[@qwertyqwerty6099]

@@ramseysaiymeh3377 well.. lol.. in that case, he succeeded!

[@dmikulec]

Jordan should have gone to Guerrilla Mainframe and Kobi should have gone to Open Carry Texas.

[@raidermaxx2324]

well i think they got better access doing it the way they did it, you know what i mean?

[@xHaloxReviewerx117x]

ToeCutter73 definitely it was done on purpose. They would get the most honest opinion the way they did it

[@tybooskie]

No. I don't think the resulting conversation would have been as productive. One major point during this entire episode was the ways in which Kobi understood the unsaid. As thoughtful as Jordan may be; he simply could not have come to back with the same information. As Kobi mentioned; his white coworker didn't really have the same connection to a situation they were both witnessing.

[@kenken1704]

Yup

[@kenken1704]

I think they both should’ve gone to both lol 🤷🏽‍♀️ clone them haha

[@MarthaRoseMoore415]

Seeing this conversation has not only provided me with an even better understanding of how racial inequality manifests itself, but my level of JOURNALISTIC RESPECT and HEARTFELT SUPPORT for both of you. Thanks for your work, it can't be easy - but nothing important is easy. ♡♡♡

[@dominomasked]

Wow, right at the end where Kobi sort of has to call Jordan out a little bit to make him aware of his own enculturated reactiveness, and how kindly he does it... pay Kobi more.

[@mlfinseth]

This was an insightful and reflective piece that makes you really think about the alternate perspective as an open-minded listener. A very complex and difficult topic to untangle, but these two do a good job of being open about their personal and automatic responses. I'm impressed. And this is on Comedy Central, where I used to watch Mad TV. What is happening in this world?

[@quincylockett7846]

We was watching maaaaad tvvvvvvvvv

[@caitlovesasmr]

I keep thinking...what would I do if I were put in a situation where an armed cop/non-black person was threatening me and my family because they were concerned about their own safety in our presence meanwhile my family was completely unarmed and defenseless? I have no idea how I could possibly comprehend a situation like this, but it's been happening to black families for years. Very sad. Most likely...I would respond in violence, I'm no victim to any crime, it's an eye for an eye in my book.

[@arycosta7293]

Light skinned beardless Drake making some good points.

[@meowertwelve]

Drake is light skin

[@mistanomercy5245]

@ Ary Costa Drake is light skinned

[@deesnutz334]

Naw, that's the adult version of Jr from blackish

[@BaldMancTwat]

@@meowertwelve I think he meant mixed race, not light-skinned.

[@Strongpoeticmind]

Ary Costa when you say “light skinned” and your Audience didn’t grow up hearing that word you may need to explain this word and it’s meaning to them. For the rest of audience he looks nothing like Drake he just looks like a mixed race dude sent out to a job that belongs to a Black Man.

[@mitchellapple9184]

Demonetized by KZbin because you’re against the system. You’ve really stepped up Jordan and we see it. It’s harder work, hopefully it’s worth it.

[@philanthropical5520]

I don't think Comedy Central gives a rats ass about KZbin demonetization on one or two videos here and there. They aren't a bunch of millennials working out of a garage

[@saphired02]

And people say KZbin is liberal leaning...

[@BlueEyedBrunette]

Pretty much any youtube video that discusses guns gets demonetized.

[@thatunnamedredshirt]

It's controversial? What ad firm wants their brand to be associated with this, potentially alienating possible customers.

[@robertwardi358]

So articulate..... The world needs to hear more of both of you.

[@ML-lx4su]

This was ... really good. Thoughtful and meaningful -- not mention honest and fearless -- analysis of emotionally charged issues. If Americans could have honest conversations like this more often, actual progress might actually happen. Kudos to both of you, and keep it up!

[@charx9149]

When it happens to black ppl they get credit or murdered 🤔.. WTF!! Very dangerous words!! This was awesome & very informative, thanks guys. New sub here 👋🏽

[@benyaminyisrael4634]

Im glad you saw through that and commented on it. I came straight to the comments after playing that segment twice...

[@ameriqueindienindigene9096]

But in actuality, you're NOT "black" you are the original American that was told you came here from Africa "enslaved" to be a slave in your own continent (not COUNTRY - that's the corporation).

[@APsupportsTerrorism]

@@ameriqueindienindigene9096 What ?

[@ameriqueindienindigene9096]

@@APsupportsTerrorism: Confused? Well, the truth has that effect on most of us that are still walking around in a haze, enjoying the matrix.

[@RNRENTPROMO]

@@ameriqueindienindigene9096 Are you saying no black person got kidnapped from Africa and brought to America?

[@kalebphillips9281]

I love the fact that you guys go into the psychology of it, including how having a gun on you, drastically changes all interactions with people, because anything can be taken as a threat, and those talking to the person with a gun may not feel comfortable enough to say what they need/want to, for fear of violence.

[@leshcamp7281]

Love this discussion. I had to ask myself if we always expect black people to take the high road. There is deep anger and trauma in our history so why should we always be expected to do and say the right thing. It's like the rhetoric is 'we know you are being dehumanized, you can talk about it but not too loud, not too aggressive, not with any hint of anger. The morality of the situation, the sacrificial diplomacy and politics is your burden. Your protest must be palatable'. This kind of crap is why slavery continued after the slave trade was abolished. We had to riot to be set free in Jamaica. I'm one of those diplomatic people myself who is always careful that the message is properly packaged but I'm not going to judge.

[@theartfuldodgerfpv]

I think Jordan Klepper has really come into his own brand of journalism that I think is critical to finding truth. I hope this continues!

[@questionablehistorian9335]

I grew up very poor in a multiracial ghetto community (I'm white). We were harassed by the police a lot, I remember me and my sister we at the Laundromat in our neighborhood and we were running around and yelling at each other. Two police officers were at the gas station across the street and saw us through the window. They busted into the Laundromat and screamed at us to stop fighting or we would be arrested, then asks us if they could pat us down. We were scared so we let them do it. They left after that but stayed across the street staring at us until we were finished. I was 8 years old, my sister was 9. I'll never forget that. One of the cops had his hand on his gun the whole time. The first thought I had when I saw all of those black people with guns was "they're all going to get shot".

[@IbnKh]

"other than their general training and permit" TRAINING

[@patrickfenton1637]

The constitution doesn't necessitate training. Of course it's preferred and good..... but multiple states have already instated this... and they're doing great.

[@NastyFool7]

Anyone with an internet connection can get gun training lol

[@johngibson4874]

Also the accountability. There are certain expectations that police officers will be responsible and can be held accountable for misusing firearms. Whether that has been enforced is another issue.

[@dickcastle]

@@patrickfenton1637 you literslly just deleted the first half of the amendment .. just like the nra does. How disingenuous of you

[@kartikeyagoswami2660]

@@dickcastle Yeah i always wonder where the "well regulated militia" part vanishes in all of the NRA's talks. And its really weird how all the gun toters and "milita members that are against tyranny" were nowhere to be seen when the police was attacking peaceful protesters on the streets and people were getting gestapoed in portland.

[@RobRoyR8R]

I don't mind people who carry, I carry myself, but the 13 year old didn't even KNOW his weapon. I do have a problem with that. He looked like he was trying to resight what he was told to say.

[@georgegaskin6809]

These kinds of programs use the outliers more than the normal. You can find someone doing anything in this country if you look for it.

[@RobRoyR8R]

@@georgegaskin6809 Two words, program and normal. It is a program, a bad one, and not normal, safety. Thanks for sharing.

[@joopreebiden6336]

Agreed brother.

[@hirameberhardt8643]

Please don't tell me that a 13 year old can carry to school...I hope NOT but you don't KNOW what Yexas is thinking.

[@beverliecox4686]

This. This is the conversation we need to be having in every house, at every dinner table, in every office, church, and barber shop, until people finally get it. As someone said below, all heart and ears. It's brilliant.

[@treehousekohtao]

This should be titled "Americans calmly and intelligently discuss race"

[@Killinemkid]

There were no conservatives to get offended.

[@ceasarrex2301]

I feel like Kobi is trying not to be to blunt with Jordan.

[@Colemada5]

At about the 25/26 minute mark is when he really really brings it home. A lot of us (black folk) call it code switching.

[@kap79]

Long way to go with race relations in this country.

[@sympala]

QUESTION? How come people do not say militant when talking about a primarily white organization of gun owners and protesters?

[@lumdavenport3819]

John Jones IV ??? Great question but I think we both already know the answer

[@boiledelephant]

They do, actually. Antifa open carry events have been labelled militant by various news outlets. Because a bunch of people carrying guns, wearing camo and covering their faces is, literally, definitively, militant. Regardless of race or ideology.

[@souljamob1tv]

This was educational and very much worth watching. I've been conducting my own experiment within my community and at work with a more diverse group of people. I'm black, "scary, I know", but when I'm being myself, which is usually calm, cool, and I would say passive aggressive, everyone seems to be fine and enjoy me being non threatening in their eyes. Often that would lead me to taking some jabs I don't care to take, but at the same time to really straighten it out would be petty even by my own standards. So I decided to be a living mirror to those who needed to truly see themselves. The results was astonishing!!! I became them to them. I gave them what they would normally give me. If they talked ugly, I talked ugly back. If they gave me excessive "playful" pats on the back, I did the same. For every sly comment there was one in return. I did this for about a week and found that no one liked me or wanted to be around me much. My true friends didn't get this treatment for they are my true friends and of all races. They actually got a kick out of my "new found power". It was hard to keep up because it pulled me out of my character and I'm not normally just an asshole. (But it was kinda fun while it lasted). After I put the "mirror" away and returned to myself, I had some serious conversations with my co-workers. The blacks understood immediately. (They never were the targets for this experiment). The latinos eventually got it, and haven't been playful since, but we still speak 😂😂, occasionally. And the whites are still oblivious or pretend to be and now keep their distance. It's not that they hated me, THEY HATED THE REFLECTION OF THEMSELVES. THE POINT IS TOO SIMPLE. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT DONE TO YOU, DON'T DO IT. Respect is mutual, not earned. That has also been tested. But if you need a test drive, disrespect or treat someone like shit and see if they'll respect you for it. On another note, I can't understand how blacks are the most hated people and throughout history has done nothing to no one. (Besides themselves). We need the mirror on another level. 😢😢😢😢

[@natmilburn7131]

Interesting experiment. Sad you felt the need to do it. I’m the type of person who has conducted many similar experiments. Just imagine how they feel when a white guy does it to a white person...they hate it too. So, in my experience it isn’t about race as much as it is about making people feel like shit about making racist comments. In some ways, they may have been more uncomfortable having it come from someone who is white. We don’t have to be an asshole. We can still speak the truth and illuminate their ignorance without making people feel like shit. I’ve found it more effective to helping people wake up when they can’t find something to criticize in my approach. More cognitive dissonance is created with a gentle touch. They have no defense for the truth spoken with Love and tenderness. Good luck man! and Godspeed on your journey.

[@onemooreperson13]

So glad to see Kobi back! He was one of my favorite correspondents. Ever since he did that piece on "Citizen Journalism", I loved him.

[@michaelmara1338]

There was an old episode of ‘All in the Family’ where Archie Bunker goes on TV to say that in order to stop the hijacking of commercial aircraft, the airlines should hand out pistols to every passenger when they board the flight. Then collect them upon landing. The show obviously meant this as a joke but I bet these guys would love it.

[@lelyansaunders321]

Couldn’t sleep, woke up, browsed internet for an hr or so...came across this program... no regrets. So informative, I love Klepper’s shows. Will add to my list of podcasts

[@Joedala2011]

I love a good conversation. Makes us better!

[@Kall_Mii_Kemo]

I feel like this conversation isnt over

[@suzawilo]

Sadly, yes😞

[@charlenegraham1923]

Kobi said it all so well! Thank you!

[@HELL0NESSA]

This was amazing! Thank you for the honest discussion. Kobi really spoke to me and everything he said was SPOT ON. Thank you Jordan for being open and giving Kobi space and agency to feel how he feels and speak honestly, in his own voice with no judgement or interruption.

[@MrJreed1000]

If drake over here is afraid for his life ...what hope does my dark skin ass have to get any justice in America 🤨

[@sadiqsamari]

Am sorry mate I can't help but laugh. That's very serious and am not even American.

[@MrJreed1000]

@@sadiqsamari that's life

[@04ohgolly1]

Drake though.. Lol.. Great comment lol

[@TENNSUMITSUMA]

@Black Poison you saw that video too eh?

[@bigguy6982]

Join US Law Shield insurance and get a concealed carry license. And no this isn't spam lol.

[@sgtlazar]

Real talk starts around 41 minute mark. Glad Kobi brought the blind spot up for Klepper (and some of the producers) into the conversation.

[@sadejones6657]

Crazy..... how talking about doing something is more inflammatory then the Police actually doing these things to black citizens.

[@rvanhees89]

This is an incredible piece of journalism. I am very happy I watched this in its entirety. Very nuanced and very very informative.

[@supersash3157]

This was a very tough conversation to have. But one this is needed. I applaud the frankness the honesty and the absolute educational value this conversation has brought to the fore. This is how we have constructive conversations about racism, differences in culture and how we can blend two for a better future.

[@mcahmad]

This piece is brilliant, interesting perspective well done!. Always enjoyed kobi and klepper duo.