Klim Baja s4 jacket review︱Cross Training Adventure

crosstrainingenduro.com Our Klim Baja jacket review. Recently I compiled comments from hundreds of riders to see which was the highest rated riding gear. Klim ranked first for the best quality and durability. We did have an ulterior motive before buying our adventure jackets. We are currently planning trips to the Australian outback, the Himalayas, Vietnam, Romania and possibly even Mongolia. So Jeff and I both purchased Klim Baja jackets and pants, partly because many say Klim make the best adventure riding gear. Regular viewers will know I am a cheapskate. But over the years I have slowly realised going cheap on certain items can be false economy in the long run... especially boots, jackets, pants and helmets. Enter our Klim Baja S4 jacket review to see if it's the best adventure jacket. See our video about this very important rating system. This Klim Baja S4 jacket review should include the D30 armour in the back, elbow and shoulders. This is rated as level one under the CE system which is perfect for adventure riding and keeps the jacket light. Level two is for high speed impacts and faster road riding. Klim's mid-priced option that sits comfortably between their summer and winter options when it comes to ventilation... perfect for our upcoming trips. As usual, we will start with everything we like about this adventure jacket, then move to things we don't like. It's AA rated under the latest CE ratings. Very few textile jackets can even meet the basic A, B or C rating under the EN17092 system... even the road riding jackets. It's a comprehensive test that includes sliding along a road at 70kmh and still protecting your skin from abrasion. This adventure jacket has plenty of storage with six external pockets and six internal pockets. I especially like the large rear pouch which comfortably stores a raincoat for cool or wet conditions. And there's hidden internal pocket in the Klim Baja jacket behind your back armour for important documents. Another internal pocket can store a two litre water bladder and has a loop for holding the drinking tube. There are the usual adjustment points at the waist, lower arms and wrists. When Klim was purchased a few years ago by Polaris, I was concerned that the new owners would maximise profit and drop their quality standards, as many other brands have. Welcome to Cross Training Adventure, we are into all things dual sport and adventure on the east coast of Australia. So called dual sport riding reviews are just glossy ads nowdays. Everyone is trying to sell you stuff you don't need, convince you to buy the latest model with anodized coffee cup holders for your trips to the coffee shop. I asked this question on various forums and it was good to see many Klim users saying there was no change in quality... although some commented that the Klim gloves don't always last well. Klim pants and jackets definitely last a long time. I still have my extremely ventilated Klim Induction jacket after seven years and it still looks brand new. Unfortunately it's too ventilated for a lot of our upcoming trips. Okay! What don't I like about the Klim Baja jacket? And that's it. You can pin back the collars in warmer weather so they aren't flapping against your neck. The wrist openings are also quite wide to allow lots of airflow when needed. You can zip the Klim Baja jacket to matching Klim pants. If you don't have Klim pants, is has the zip lining which can be sewn in to allow joining. The jacket isn't made in China, a big plus for us. Comfort? Excellent. Quality? Top notch. I can't find any other problems as yet. But as always, I will add any further comments in the pinned first comment of the KZbin video. I googled around for complaints and read a pile of owner reports. I expected more complaints about the price but most owners had researched the other 'top shelf' jackets and said Klim's pricing is on par. Do you use the Klim Baja jacket? What do you think? Any complaints? We are keen to explore the good and bad side of all products so let us know in the comments. Nothing. A few mentioned the Klim Baja jacket is heavy with all the armour fitted, but any jacket with approved armour is. So the Cross Training Adventure focus is just get out there and have fun on two wheels.What else? Cross Training Adventure actively avoids sponsorship. We like doing seriously critical reviews. Manufacturers make some really bad mistakes. and there is a lot of dodgy crap being sold out there. So subscribe to our Cross Training Adventure riding channel. The main thing is get out and ride while you can with dual sport riding or Adventure riding in Australia, Canada, Vietnam, Romania and beyond! So check out Cross Training Adventure.
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[@crosstrainingadventure]

LONG TERM COMMENTS? A year later, nothing to add which is a good thing. We have come across no issues. Despite a lot of use it still looks new after we wash the gear. Sadly my jacket was stolen in Vietnam so I've gone back to my old Klim Induction jacket which keeps on keeping on. But it has a lower collar so I've been badly sun-burnt on the rear of my neck a few times so I'm missing my Baja jacket in that respect! I'm waiting for end of year sales and hopefully score a discounted Baja again. LIFETIME WARRANTY? Not on this jacket, it only applies to Klim's very expensive top bracket gear. jackets.www.klim.com/warranty DOUBLE CHECK YOUR AA RATING IF BUYING NON-KLIM GEAR Are you using comparable adventure riding gear that meets the AA rating under the CE certification system? And not just the armour. Is the material AA rated for abrasion resistance if you slide down the road? Other AA rated gear to look at: Rev'it Cayenne, Rev it Sand 4, Adventure Spec Mongolia jacket, RST Pro... WHY PAY SO MUCH? Regular viewers know I take a budget approach to everything when I can. But occasionally someone will say why do use expensive Klim gear and Gaerne SG12 boots? My approach is go cheap when I can. But spend money for quality gear when it matters. My Klim gear is AA rated so I won't need skin grafts if I slide down the road. If you check the other AA rated brands, they are all roughly the same price. Good protective fabric costs money. Boots? After two sets of multiple fractures in my lower legs, I won't go cheap on boots anymore. And a survey of hundreds of riders indicates Gaerne is the best... probably followed by Forma then Sidi. IS THERE A CHEAPER WAY TO GET AA PROTECTION? Not that I'm aware of. You could buy a cheap jacket and wear body armour underneath... an option I wasn't keen on. And if you want AA rated body armour it will cost a lot anyway. Cheap leather jackets will be AA rated and expensive double stitched ones will even be AAA rated. This might be okay if you ride in cool weather most of the time, but we are in the sub-tropics and need ventilated jackets most of the gear. Subscribe for weekly adventure & dual sport vids! English not your first language? Many subtitles... Safety & protective gear vids bit.ly/3BmKeGE Our dual sport & adv ride vids bit.ly/3HTdvvl Bike & product reviews bit.ly/3BrnVjq The more bizzare side! bit.ly/34ZschR The more philosophical side bit.ly/3v9nKYX Riding across Vietnam bit.ly/3pej9Rt DR650 project vids bit.ly/3gQEStP Check out our other channels too... Cross Training Enduro bit.ly/3Jncax4 Cross Training Trials bit.ly/3uUjwEm

[@paw-rides]

New KNOX Honister jacket is AAA rated. I run the KNOX urban pro mk 2 rated AA in the summer, feels like a t-shirt comparing to my klim rally jacket. But normally i wear klim, realy expensive but good quality.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Interesting concept, Per! So 229 euro according to the website. And as you say, fully AA rated for abrasion resistance too... not just the armour.

[@AndyPutt1]

Australia here. I've had the Baja S4 for nearly 4 years and about 35,000 km. It's still in excellent condition, apart from reflective tape a bit worn in one spot and recently the D30 back protector has split through in several places for no apparent reason. However one of the most versatile, manouverable, and comfortable jackets I've owned, used more than any other for daily commuting over the past four years. Offers very good layering options.. including in extreme heat water saturated base layer... thermal and a wind layers underneath, or rain proof layers over top, eg- Enduro S4. That works very well and allows the Baja to be an excellent basis for all weather situations. You could tour Australia for a year with thermal baselayer, Latitude pants which the Baja zips to, Baja S4, and Enduro S4 and require nothing else.

[@robpinter5431]

One thing that is not mentioned about the Klim gear is the 5 year road protection warranty, that is if you have an accident and damage your riding gear you can make a claim to Klim for a replacement. The ambos cut off my 2 week old Badlands pants and I put in a claim to Klim USA, along with the hospital discharge report, and they accepted the claim, after I posted the pants back to the USA. As always buy what you can afford, but after 40+ years of riding I have seen a great change in bike gear from the waxed cotton jackets to Gore tex materials.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

It's a great policy, Rob. Unfortunately it only seems to apply to their most expensive gear. The Baja jacket and pants aren't included.

[@dznnf7]

@@crosstrainingadventure Yup; anything "off-roady" is not part of the policy.

[@syumassh]

Krios Pro is part of this policy; I’ve just made a claim after an off-road crash.

[@SimonBrisbane]

The Klim does look like high quality but the price was too steep for me so I opted for the Rev it Sand 4 H20 jacket. An AA rated, 4 season 3 layer jacket. Has Level 2 shoulder and elbow protection and can be fitted with back and chest inserts. I find it quite versatile with quality construction. It has excellent ventilation but can also be zipped up pretty well for colder climes or when riding at altitude. It too is not made in China which was an essential requirement for me.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Simon... but I think only the armour is CE rated, not the actual jacket material in terms of abrasion resistance? It is $200 cheaper than the Klim and I wouldn't be surprised if it's better ventilated. I assume at some point they can't get that AA rating for the material once it's letting a lot of air through?

[@SimonBrisbane]

@@crosstrainingadventure ​ The label on the outer jacket says CE AA rated. The USA Website also says it’s AA rated, not sure why the Australian site doesn’t. I had the pants but had to return them because the knee pads were more like shin pads even in the short length.

[@SimonBrisbane]

The pouch for the water bag is a nice touch on the Baja. I need to carry a Camelbak.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Good to hear about the AA rating, I've added it to the list in the pinned first comment. Knee pads can be an issue hey? With the Baja pants, you can undo or do up the velcro to position the knee pads higher or lower but I'm still so tall the knee pads barely cover my knees when sitting. I'm thinking of doubling up with some kind of separate knee guard to wear as well.

[@SimonBrisbane]

@@crosstrainingadventure textile pants seem to be an after thought, I guess due to a much smaller market than Jackets. With the knee pads I was wondering is the poor fitting just me? Surely it can’t be, I’m average height and build. It turns out the knee pad complaint is something all motorcycle accessory shops have heard many times before. I even messaged Rev’it and their response was nothing short of incredulous chagrin. Surely in 2022 it’s not unreasonable to expect they can get this right for tall, short and most particularly average proportioned riders? I mean I was willing to pay for the protection. I found with pants Klim actually had the best fit but couldn’t justify the $850 spend for what ultimately wasn’t much better than the $200 dryrider pants that had a very similar fit and feature set.

[@TwistedTriggerEnduro]

Great video!! Always appreciate your tips, advice, and opinion. 💪😃👍

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Glad to hear it!

[@trekkydelirium-vroom5821]

I love Klim Jackets, but, i would like them to have chest protector’s in option, like other brands like Scott, Revi’t…

[@soilsmanadv6673]

I own both the S4 Jacket and pants. For colder weather I use windproof underleyers and thermal layers below that. In wet weather I wear waterproof underlayers. It makes this system good down to 32F and fine for rainstorms. The only problem I have had is my knife cut the mesh ventilation easily so careful with sharp objects.

[@joshadsett4835]

nice kit. Look forward to you new adventure

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Can't wait!

[@russpaton8877]

I run the Klim Baja pants with Forcefield full armour under a klim Baja jersey and loved it on a 11 day usa desert trip this season. I have had the Klim Carlsbad jacket fornthe last several years as my main riding jacket, I wanted a waterproof jacket for rainy BC but needed it to vent very well for summer interior BC riding where we are regularly over 30°C. Been super happy with it. Excellent construction.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

11 days in the desert... sounds like a great trip, Russ! What time of the year and what sort of temperatures? Looking forward to some possible adv riding around BC next year with the Traction eRag guys.

[@russpaton8877]

@@crosstrainingadventure April. Cali, Nevada, Arizona. Let us know when your coming, probably organize something with the DSBC crew as well.

[@Drysc]

After twenty years of cheap no name jackets and pants i bought Rukka Offlane jacket+pants. The Offlane was lauched before the EN 17092 standard but it shares similar protective features (e.g. abrasion shielding and seam-burst resistance) as those of jackets that are CE-certified to a Class AA rating.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I did look at the Rukka Offlane, Navis. It's priced the same as Klim but they still don't seem to have the overall AA rating as yet... only for the armour. Hopefully they'll submit it for testing in the future.

[@hedonzx822]

Got it for 10k’s now and indeed one of the best I ever had and…I had many 😇 Just bought the latest Marrakech pants and jacket, curious if all the comments are true it this is the ultimate top notch jacket 🧐

[@glennaltschwager5234]

I recently purchased the Klim Carlsbad jacket and pants for adventure riding. Top notch quality that will last for years.👍

[@SimonBrisbane]

Does the Carlsbad come with a liner ? I’ve read it’s a quality bit of kit but you’d need to layer it well in winter. The ventilation was reportedly good but not great?

[@glennaltschwager5234]

@@SimonBrisbane nah mate no liners. I ride mainly offroad and find the new Carlsbad ventilation awesome in both th pant and jacket. If I was riding mainly longhaul on road I'd go for the Badlands, but would overheat offroad.

[@FanOWater]

I have the Latitude jacket and pants for fall-winter-spring riding and the Induction Pro with Forecast shell for summer. Both sets are excellent and were worth every penny.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Agreed. My Induction jacket is going on seven years old now and still looks brand new. Ditto for the Voyager pants (now discontinued). I'm keeping these for more road-oriented rides but the Baja will be used for all the upcoming overseas trips.

[@geoffturner5347]

Baja is $1000 in Australia. Nice to know I get top level protection for my money. Not sure if I want to be mistaken for a GS rider.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I have to put up with the embarrassment of riding with my brother if he brings his GS1200 out instead of the DR650, Geoff lol. Yeah it definitely ain't cheap. But I wanted AA rated CE gear to avoid 'gravel rash' from a slide down the road.

[@ItsOnlyFil]

I have the Klim Carlsbad jacket and the back orange flexible protection pad cracked. Klim has replaced it but I'm still watching for the same to happen. For the rest, I love it. No other complaints whatsoever. Top quality.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Damn! I've got the same flexible armour in my old Klim Induction jacket, Gilles... still looks new after seven years. Manufacturing fault? I've always popped it out before washing just in case long term exposure to detergent might affect it.

[@ItsOnlyFil]

@@crosstrainingadventure Based on their product quality, I suspect a small defect. I'm not hard on material really. But with the replacement, so far so good. Great videos, love them !

[@TheFoxyt2]

Love my Baja s4. Wind blocker in rear pouch for cold weather and I’m golden. For small dual sport I run the force field and jersey and if I get on black top run the mosko moto dragon skin shell. Aka baskilist (spelling)? Also use the mosko moto shell for snow biking. Ultimate layering option. But glad I have the Baja s4 for big bikes

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Same here! Light rain coat in the rear pouch... that fancy gore-tex gear was way out of my reach.

[@duelmen3]

Reading through the comments, I have not seen anyone mention the warranty that comes with Klim products. I have the Dakar Jacket and pants for three season riding and I recently purchased the Carlsbad Jacket for winter riding ( has a Gortex lining). Klim’s warranty, at least here in the US, will replace any clothing product that was purchased within 5 years, if you have been in a traffic accident on road and has a verified police report. They will also replace or repair any product within its warranty. Seam failures and the like. The quality of the clothing is top notch in my opinion and while riding I have put my Dakar gear through some rough encounters with tree branches, bushes and of course the occasional visit to the dirt road/ trail surface 🤪

[@crosstrainingadventure]

The Klim website does say five years for helmets. For clothing, it seems to be for the 'practical liftime of the product'.... see text below. Klim doesn't automatically replace gear, they'll choose repair first if possible. However, the automatic replacement after a crash only applies to their goretex gear and helmets. See this link: www.klim.com/gear-protection-guarantee I emailed Klim Australia to see if this applied to the Baja jacket and it didn't. KLIM WARRANTY We warrant *every product we make to be free of material, manufacturer, or workmanship defects for the **practical lifetime of the product. Additionally, all KLIM GORE-TEX® products are GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY® for the **practical lifetime of the product. If these products fail due to a manufacturing or material defect, we will repair the product without charge, or replace it at our discretion. This warranty is not transferable. *KLIM BOOTS are warranted against defects in materials and workmanship for one [1] year from the date of purchase. Aggressive running boards will accelerate the wear and tear on the soles of the boots. This is considered normal wear and tear. General warranty terms apply. *KLIM GOGGLES are warranted against defects in materials and workmanship for one [1] year from the date of purchase. Scratches and fogging are not covered under this warranty. General warranty terms apply. *HELMETS are warranted against defects in materials and workmanship for five [5] years from the date of purchase. General warranty terms apply. *Products distributed by Klim on behalf of another manufacturer are subject to that manufacturer’s warranty. *All dyed/pigmented fabrics will fade under UV exposure (sunlight) over time. Klim fabrics are highly UV resistant, but HI-VIS fabrics will fade at a faster rate than normal fabrics under the same UV exposure. This is a normal property of all HI-VIS pigments/fabrics and is not considered a manufacturer defect and is therefore not covered under our lifetime warranty. ** What does the practical lifetime of the product mean? The practical lifetime of a product is not indefinite. The intensity under which the product is used determines this factor. Materials will deteriorate and fade over time and moving parts will wear out. We design our products to endure extended periods of use. Use your best judgement, if it looks worn out then it likely is. It may be time to simply replace your product, we hope you will give Klim the opportunity to enhance your experience in the most demanding conditions. The following items will void the lifetime warranty of the product even if the issue is unrelated to these damages: - Rips, tears, cuts - Burns, abrasions - Accidents, crashes - Improper Care, negligence - Normal wear and tear - Modifications, alterations - Use other than the product’s intended purpose REPAIR VS REPLACE If a manufacturing or material defect is found, we will first repair the item to Klim quality. This is how the repair vs replace decision is made: - Our first option will be to repair the item, free of charge. Repaired items will be subject to available parts. We will do our best to match colors and styles, but we cannot guarantee that you will receive the exact product back. - If the product is not repairable, or if the cost of repairing the item exceeds the cost of a new one, we will replace it - at our discretion.

[@sesom228]

Klim Badlands Pro is a great jacket and has major improvements over Gen 1 model. Highly recommend!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Very tempted but about double my budget. 😢

[@afiend69]

this Baja jacket was my number two choice when buying this week. I went with the Klim Dakar and armoured shirt to better suit where I will be riding most in the next year. I sure wouldn't want to go on long tours with any 8+ lbs jackets like the carlsbad or badlands etc.. I prefer to travel light

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Same here, Al. I wanted that full AA rating but not too much weight. Just back from a week riding in the outback... loved the Baja for it's ventilation.

[@EMRElectrical]

@@crosstrainingadventure Would you consider/recommend using the Baja as a "soft shell" ie remove the armor and run full body armor underneath, so when you get to the gnarly stuff, you just remove the jacket? Or is it still too large to stow away. I do really like the Dakar but also concerned about the lack of rating.. Thanks Barry - Eddie.

[@evev7158]

The part at 3:00 surprised me😮 how much would you say the jacket is worse in ventilation than the Induction compared to, say, a full on goretex jacket? Also, which of the 2, induction/Baja, would you say is more suited (pun not intended lol) to be worn as an abrasion shell over a full MX style armour suit? Thanks for your videos!!!😊

[@crosstrainingadventure]

The goretex jacket will be a lot warmer I think. The Induction jacket is mostly mesh so extremely ventilated. If I put the liner in it's better in cold weather. But it's simply designed for hot summer conditions really. Abrasion shell? I think either jacket would work as long as there's enough room for the armour!

[@TommyNitro]

Good info. I have been wondering if klim goods are worth their price being far above many others.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

If you want that AA rating for abrasion resistance then it seems any brand of jacket is around this price or a fair bit higher, Tommy. The only one I could find that was a bit cheaper was the Rev'it Cayenne jacket.

[@brianrmorris5518]

I have had this jacket for near on 2 years. The only issues I have found is the weight and the reflective patches on the sleeves are pealing off. Overall a sturdy and comfortable jacket. Interested in real life feed back of the pants.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Good to hear, Brian. Although a shame about the reflective patches, at this price I wouldn't want to see that happening for a long time. I'll review the pants too in a later vid.

[@undercircuit]

Klim are known to replace jackets under warranty for the peeling reflective tape issue. Just contact them directly

[@brianrmorris5518]

@@undercircuit I live in Australia now so I can't see myself posting a jacket overseas if it came to that. I might try the local supplier though. Thanks

[@undercircuit]

@@brianrmorris5518 they no longer ask you to ship back from australia... they just rerquire photos of the item disabled for use.

[@timeboom]

Great review, appreciate the research! I agree the level of abrasion resistance is important. I'm interested in this Baja gear, hows it working out for you? Thanks, Tim

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Great thanks. We always add long-term comments in the pinned first comment. 👍

[@timeboom]

Ok, see that now, cheers. Also wondering, are/were you able to stay warm enough (with layering) when it gets cold?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Sub-tropics here, rarely gets cold... and I feel the heat more than the cold so couldn't really say.

[@The3rKo]

Yeah, but only second best after the 7XL white shirt, bucket helmet and sunglasses

[@crosstrainingadventure]

😂

[@dualsportscandinavia353]

@ Cross Training Adventure Baja S4 is tricky in the colder north. If not Enduro S4, what wp is used, size up? Dakar and Venture R with removable sleeves are ideal offroad. Also Revit dirt-series, Astar xt, Klim raptor gtx and traverse. Looking for optimal ce2 AA Ds-protection to wear on the body against "slide" (road) and "crash" (trail) -closest options so far Revit scram, Klim tactical, Knox action and urban pro

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Not sure what 'wp' is....

[@dualsportscandinavia353]

@@crosstrainingadventure Waterproof outer shell

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Gotcha. I'm just using the same shell I've had for about 15 years now. XXL but it rolls up and fits into the rear pocket of the jacket as seen in the vid.

[@roblange1445]

Anyone taken a look at Adventure Spec? Full layering system with a new armoured shirt just released...

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I did look at their Mongolia jacket, Rob. They definitely have a good reputation. Similar price and specs to the Klim with the AA rating. It is vented but I didn't think it was as ventilated as the Baja for hot Aussie conditions.

[@roblange1445]

@@crosstrainingadventure try the linesman.....it has removable sleeves( and armour) or u can wear the super shirt with just a trailhead jersey on top . Very versatile system

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I did see that one, Rob. Only A rated. Which is still pretty good, but AA was one of my criteria. It looks incredibly ventilated!

[@Dagnatic]

How’d you find the figment? I know you’re a tall fella like myself. No issues with sleeve length or torso measurement?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Feels great Darcy but of course if someone has different torso/arm lengths (or obesity!) they might have issues...

[@pappaclutch3266]

Interesting I have found my S4 vents more then my Induction pro

[@prawns]

I use the rear pockets on bike jackets for wet weather pants....shouldnt need a raincoat back there unless the jacket isnt waterproof?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Ventilated jacket so definitely not waterproof, Daniel. I'm carrying a light raincoat in that rear pocket.

[@prawns]

@@crosstrainingadventure fair enough :) I got a ventilated jacket too - but my vents are behind zips with waterproof rubber flaps (untested but thats the spiel when i got it lols - I've yet to test that claim in a ongoing rain situation though lol)

[@arnandegans]

While on my way to Baja, I came across the baja jacket in Mexico City - Way too warm for that kind of hot weather.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Yep, it's definitely not a jacket for very high temperatures, Arnan. I'm just back from a one week ride in the outback and we did have one warm day... 31C. It was fine while I was moving but I was taking the jacket off if we stopped for more than a minute.

[@arnandegans]

@@crosstrainingadventure But Baja is regularly 40c+ 🤣

[@jaycarva]

When on your adventure rides do you still wear your SG12 boots?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

It depends. Any rough terrain planned... definitely. But if it's mainly road and easy dirt roads I've got a set of cheap Fusport adventure boots.

[@silverfoxinoz]

Mate I want that Klim Baja S4 jacket you’re wearing. Can you tell me where you got that colour in Australia? Geoff in Hobart

[@crosstrainingadventure]

www.adventuremoto.com.au/brand/klim/

[@danielmiles851]

If you are coming to Australian outback I would suggest a review on epirbs and extra fuel storage Australian outback is much more isolated than most realise ,

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Just got back, Daniel. I went with a tour group. It just seemed a lot safer to be on a fully supported trip... two support vehicles, riding dirt bikes, no need to carry luggage etc.

[@danielmiles851]

@@crosstrainingadventure cool that sounds awesome ,me and my mate's 35 year ago in Perth City lot of suburbs were bush land/national parks , great nights camping with the bike's , jacket looks Good... I'm going moto with the dr650 Sick bike + extra armour

[@usbsol]

Hi, whats your solution for motocross boots and rain(over)pants Cheers 👍

[@crosstrainingadventure]

We've done a comparison vid over on our enduro channel... how to pick the best motorbike boot. Rain pants? I just have a cheap set of no name pants. It rarely rains here.

[@usbsol]

@@crosstrainingadventure lucky you 😊

[@alvk3996]

Which rain coat so you use with this jacket?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I've just got a cheap one that almost never gets used. Rain is pretty rare on our rides.

[@codforlife]

any thoughts on the klim traverse?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Never used it and I'm not even sure if it's available here.

[@mfranquemont1884]

Does anyone have knowledge of differences between Baja S4 and Marrakesh? Specifically; Weight? Fit? Airflow? CE rating? Specific zipper/closure issues? Actual crash info? Durability? Other?!?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I don't think it was in stock when I bought my gear 😢

[@davidgreenman9728]

Both are AA rated. The Marrakesh is made from the 1000D Cordura the Bala uses in the stretch zones. The Baja has better airflow on the mesh panels and super fabric for crash zones. Marrakesh is a wicked jacket also.

[@yorkchris10]

It's funny Klim looks like the only "Adventure" clothing company on the list. First Gear Rukka Dainese Aerostitch Bering

[@crosstrainingadventure]

That was related to pants and jerseys, Chris... so more focused on enduro and the that video was published on our enduro channel. I might do an equivalent about adventure gear at a later point.

[@safdarlodi]

Why do u buy jacket and pants in different colours?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

I don't like the look of matching pants and jackets when it comes to the colour.

[@MrYellowrainman]

Hi Looks good Maybe we'll see you in Mongolia 2023👍 

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Can't wait!

[@jamesdenton3692]

Side question please, is standing while riding something of a legal concern in the land of OZ. In Canuckistain standing even to stretch your legs can earn you a "stunting" ticket , not a good thing.

[@geoffturner5347]

Standing not a problem in Australia.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Laws were changed here a few years back, James... at least in some states. Long overdue! I still remember being on a dirt road and standing on the footpegs and a cop waving his finger at me about seven years ago.

[@prawns]

in the motorcycle handbook for NSW, under specific rules for motorcyclists page 61 - "motorcycle riders must sit astride the riders seat facing forwards" Ive spotted a HP car recently in town and sat down fast - and had him pointing a finger at me as I went past as a warning i guess. Your allowed one foot off the footpeg at a time for stretching though (few weeks back in a 30kph zone in newcastle thats heavily policed - I went home and actually looked for a rule afterwards hahaha -the dr650 is so comfortable standing though, and with traffic bumper to bumper with the speed limit i would of argued its a safety thing to see what cars ahead were doing) www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-05/motorcycle-riders-handbook.pdf

[@RealHooksy]

It always makes me laugh when I see people standing up on a perfectly smooth dirt road. Like someone told them they have to stand up on dirt, so as soon as the tar ends, up they go. Yeah it’s best to stand when it gets rough, but you don’t need to stand always fellas.

[@prawns]

@@RealHooksy it's way more comfortable on some bikes. Also gives you a better view for roos and hazards etc... You ridden dirtbikes before? People that do generally wouldn't make your statement. Heres one from me where if i wasnt standing on a tar road - I would of run over a big brown snake and maybe been bitten. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZypnauPmteNgJo

[@4x4junkie86]

nice jacket. id love to get my hands on some decent riding gear but its a long way to the city to find out they have nothing that fits grown men. 2xl is great if your a midget.

[@crosstrainingadventure]

2XL can double a tent in an emergency... 😁 But yeah, fitment can be a problem as they have to have a generic fit and those adjustment bits around the waist and arms will only help so much.

[@horizontal120]

no revit ?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Well it's a review about a Klim jacket so it doesn't include the Revit. But I'm mentioning similar AA-rated alternatives in the pinned first comment and the Revit is in there.

[@horizontal120]

@@crosstrainingadventure no i was alluding to the pole in the first few seconds ... and i'm surprised that there is no revit in there .. and surprised riders don't use revit .. i was always under the assumption they where top tear .. but guess riders don't use it ...

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Ah gotcha. That was only a poll for pants/jerseys for my enduro channel. I scanned a pile of forums and social media posts for that. It took so long I wasn't prepared to put all that effort in for adventure riding gear as well unfortunately. If I did I'm sure Revit would feature, it seems to have a good reputation from what I've heard.

[@robsonenduro3316]

Klim is so expensive the quality better be good :)

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Yep, as per the vid was worried they might have let standards slip when the mormon owners sold to Polaris a few years back. I asked others a year ago on the Thumpertalk forum and they said all good. Except their gloves seem to be hit and miss. Didn't worry me, I only buy work gloves from the hardware nowadays.

[@TheTuxMaster]

Has a Badland Pro rack, very good clothes. However, not waterproof pockets as they claim, not the worst problem though. The sleeves are just wallkrow, it doesn't work in the long run.!!!! The next rack will NOT be Klim!!!!

[@crosstrainingadventure]

What is wallkrow, Hringhorne?

[@ytr8989]

This jacket is much too expensive 😱

[@crosstrainingadventure]

Yes and no, Alex. If you want a jacket that is AA rated under the CE standard to cope with a slide down the road at 70kmh then you'll find all those jackets are a similar price. If you go A rated or no standard at all, you can find jackets up to two thirds cheaper.

[@aganatra7419]

How many kidneys do you have to sell to buy a klim Baja jacket?

[@crosstrainingadventure]

1.3 kidneys usually. 😂 But you will find the prices are similar for any jacket that meets the AA certification under the CE standard for sliding down the bitumen. Very few jackets meet this. If you opt for the A rating or none you'll get much cheaper jackets across the brands.

[@twistedthrottle8513]

I have few depending on weather were i am going how long, for long adventures interstate i use Klim overland gortex and pants, just picked up an Alpines stars 2022 MX Venture XT Mojave Camo Adventure jacket recently lots of vents DWR treated armour shoulders and elbows can add back , not to bad for the money, still to hot for Qld summers ,i use full mesh upper body alpine Armor and jersey only ,