Klipsch RF-7 III vs SVS Ultra Tower - Speaker Sensitivity

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Youthman

Youthman

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Today we compare the speaker sensitivity between the Klipsch RF-7 III and SVS Ultra Towers, discuss what speaker sensitivity is and how to use an SPL Meter to calibrate your system when switching to speakers that have a different sensitivity rating.
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@bzrdbrew
@bzrdbrew 3 жыл бұрын
After changing front and rear speakers, dawned on me it's time to run calibration again. Thank you 👍🏽
@Edsel76
@Edsel76 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman great vid. Your explanation was very clear and to the point ....can't wait to see your atmos video when your done setting it up, as always man keep them vidz coming
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly. Will be installing my 4 ATMOS speakers on Monday or Tuesday!
@GS_Trophy
@GS_Trophy 3 жыл бұрын
I had the SVS Ultra towers and because of your videos I became curious of the RF7III and tried them.... Let’s just say your review is correct! I kept the Klipsch! They’re nothing short of amazing! They beat the SVS all over with clarity and detail for both music and movies! These will be the last speakers I’ll ever need for years to come! Thanks for the vids! It’s what got me to try them!
@malinoisnation9392
@malinoisnation9392 10 ай бұрын
All depends how u power them.
@johnparker7284
@johnparker7284 6 жыл бұрын
As always another great video Youthman
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you John
@marcusharmon6875
@marcusharmon6875 5 жыл бұрын
This is very useful information. Thank you for sharing it.
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that you are finding value in my videos. That’s why I make them.
@Manihsi
@Manihsi 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude , i,m still waiting your future video for DENON room calibration setup .
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
It’s coming...😀. I will be installing my 4 ATMOS speakers this week. Need those installed before I can setup the Denon for Atmos
@domingobermudez6780
@domingobermudez6780 3 жыл бұрын
Great video,which speaker sounds better with music n home theater?
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 5 жыл бұрын
Great job !
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you TJ
@frankieknuckles9610
@frankieknuckles9610 6 жыл бұрын
I get the sensitivity part. But the receiver changing the db level on the surround speakers threw me. What speakers do you like better the svs or klipsch. What is difference in price. What speakers are more balanced and natural sounding.
@brnmaull
@brnmaull 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video bro! 👍👍
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bobby
@335i101
@335i101 6 жыл бұрын
So when running these tests do you set the volume level of the receiver at “0” (reference)?? Do most people enjoy have everything set at 75db? I don’t remember exactly, but I thought I read a lot of peeps turn up there surrounds a few dB..??
@17Kozzy17
@17Kozzy17 6 жыл бұрын
New follower here! Really enjoy your content and your interactions. Thanks for the wide variety of information, the fun and smiles you get to share with us playing with the toys! Only I wish I could be in the room too lol! What are your thoughts on definitive technology supercubes?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kozzy! Thanks for the sub. I have not heard the Def Tech supercube before. I upgraded many years ago from a 10" to a 15" and have never considered anything smaller than a 15". They just provide so much more depth and output.
@17Kozzy17
@17Kozzy17 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman that makes sense because larger subs will always have more depth. I do believe definitive technology speakers have a good line and supercubes could be something to add to your content ideas. You’d be surprised what they can do for just the right room size. I’d love to hear your input on them if you ever would do something with them down the road! Keep the hard work!
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will keep them in mind. I do have a connection with Def Tech
@RBS22
@RBS22 6 жыл бұрын
As always! excellent video, I find the speakers Svs beautiful, but really the klipsh are great ... it has a very good sensitivity.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I like both but my ears prefer the RF-7 II over the SVS Ultra Towers. Each has their own unique sound. The RF-7 II are just in a higher tier of loudspeaker.
@RjTheTrigun
@RjTheTrigun 6 жыл бұрын
So the Klipsh RFIII is the way to go if you can get them for cheaper than the svs ultra towers or same price?
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 4 жыл бұрын
I tested one of my Bill Fitzmaurice Omnitop 12 speakers plugged into my friend's 4 watt sound system and it was almost triple the perceived loudness (10-15dB) of the little "bookshelf" speakers it came with. A couple of pringles speaker chips powering these speakers will make enough sound for music in a noisy bar. If you have subwoofers you will need more power. The tweeter was a bit harsh in the upper mids but those speakers usually run through a graphic EQ. So speaker sensitivity can make as much difference as amplifier power in many cases. Not to mention they can handle about 500 watts if you want your ears to bleed. It is good to listen and compare loudness levels at the same position on the volume control as some "more sensitive" speakers might have a frequency they play considerably louder but the average sensitivity isn't as much greater as you see on the speaker. A bookshelf speaker could have an 88dB woofer and 98dB tweeter and need a similar sized amp for the body of the music but just need the tweeter turning down. I don't mind doing this as I prefer to have the more delicate drivers in a speaker be sensitive. Eminence APT80 are a good budget sensitive horn tweeter above 4kHz, though they are quite a forward sound if you don't back down the gain - similar to a high quality piezo tweeter without as much horn ringing. They do retain detailed treble at high volume levels. If you want more bass at lower power levels, larger PA style drivers will get you there although the boxes will be bulkier. It usually takes a couple of fifteens in a large ported box to give you a subwoofer that is 100dB sensitivity so the married people tend to use a more powerful amp instead. I have found as not a general rule at all but lower sensitivity speakers usually have a bit softer a sound, but higher sensitivity speakers tend to sound less mushy/boomy than a lower sensitivity speaker fed more power trying to keep up. It's this that can make them more life like if you listen loud. A loud recording of a drum kit is going to sound more similar to the real thing.
@uscfroadie
@uscfroadie 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, but you should have included that you need to double power output to get a rise of just 3db and double again for each consecutive rise of 3 dbs. If the sensitivity ratings are accurate for both the Klipsch and the SVSs you are reviewing, you would need 16 watts to get to 100 dbs, which the Klipsch hit at just 1 watt. Having said that, the 6.5 db change in your video point to the ratings not exactly being accurate. Even so, for the 6db rise you had to dial in, your receiver had to deliver 4 times the power on the SVS than it did for the Klipsch.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I am familiar with the double the watts to yield a 3dB increase but I never really thought about that when dealing with a receiver increasing the volume of a speaker. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
@italia458driver7
@italia458driver7 5 жыл бұрын
Great point, and how much more are you asking out of your receiver to do this is also important for heat etc. however you did give tons of great and accurate information. So thank you for that
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Very true
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Even if they are 3dB less efficient than they claim, the SVS take about 3X the wattage to achieve the same volume. I just listened to my RF7 III. I have to get within 12” to hear the slightest hiss. About 8” from the Martin Logan 60XTi. I don’t know about you but I don’t sit 12 inches from my speakers
@thegoat164
@thegoat164 3 жыл бұрын
@John Smith Correct! High sensitivity is overrated because unless you are in a very large room high sensitivity is irrelevant. A quality ss amp will drive lower sensitivity speakers to play more than loud enough in the majority of home setups. I'll take the speakers with the better sound quality over the speakers that can play "louder." You can pick any 2 of these 3 options: 1. Good bass 2. Small cabinet 3. High sensitivity This is an immutable law of physics. Since many people want the first 2 due to decorating and other domestic considerations, the 3rd is the one that gets left behind, and since watts are relatively cheap, it's not a problem. High sensitivity speakers have their own virtues, but nothing will ever change the above law. WHAT ARE REALISTIC VOLUME LEVELS? www.audiodrom.net/en/as-we-see-it-tips-thoughts/74-realistic-volume-levels
@romanlewandowski9616
@romanlewandowski9616 5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation for the sensitivity of speakers, one question what do you like better the ultra 16 ported or the ultra 16 unpoured ? .Any chance of doing a comparison between The new RP 8000 F‘s and the RP280f I really know if there is a improvement in the new speaker over the old
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roman. I’ve haven’t done a lot of comparison between standard (no ports plugged) and extended (1 port plugged) but have been using them in Extended mode for awhile. I might switch to standard for awhile to see if I notice much difference. Might make for some good measurements for a video. The RP280F has been discontinued so I doubt I would be able to get a pair. My guess is there is t a huge difference between the models. If you are considering upgrading, save up for the RF7 III or even the older RF7 II. They are a significant improvement t.
@InSaiyan-Shinobi
@InSaiyan-Shinobi 3 жыл бұрын
What would you say would be the best bang for the buck center speaker or a setup you would go I don’t want to put a price of what I’m looking for just want to get some input from you and see if I can do it.
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 6 жыл бұрын
The more components you introduce into the audio chain, the more likely you are to introduce noise. A good receiver is all that is needed to get all the volume you need with a Klipsch. Saves money too!
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
That also depends on how many speakers you are driving. For example, the Denon AVR-X6400H is capable of powering 11 speakers. I will be installing 4 Atmos speakers tomorrow so I am curious how well it can effectively power all 11 of my Klipsch speakers. My LaScala Trio have a sensitivity of 104dB so that should help greatly. But I still want to see if adding the Parasound Halo A52+ will make a difference by relieving the receiver's amps of some of that power.
@frankieknuckles9610
@frankieknuckles9610 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understood it all, but it was pretty cool anyway. Good video.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
What was confusing John? Glad to help explain it more.
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 6 жыл бұрын
The RF7's come out on top again. Easily some of the best speakers money can buy. With this setup, you can sit back and just go through an entire album. Recently, I went through Chris Botti's "Italia".
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I certainly enjoy the RF7 II and RF7 III
@freddygenao6035
@freddygenao6035 6 жыл бұрын
How do you like the Parasound a52+ with the Svs Ultra towers ? To they have a good synergy? Or your prefer the Acurus?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
The A52+ sounds fantastic with the SVS Ultra Towers, the Klipsch RF-7 III and also my Klipsch LaScalas. From dead quite to immediate explosions, it's simply effortless horsepower that is very neutral sounding. I have always believed your receiver or pre-amp has more determination on "how" a speaker sounds than the power that is driving them. Some amps do have a slight warmer sound and some are better at handling lower impedance dips.
@BIGBASSSAMA_4
@BIGBASSSAMA_4 3 жыл бұрын
What spl meter u suggest I buy? I have no budget! 💪
@steviegene4006
@steviegene4006 6 жыл бұрын
Have you had any problems with your Onkyo reciever with the known "no sound or network connection problem? My 6 yo tx nr 5009 had this problem and onkyo stood behind it and repaired it even though it was 3 years out of warranty.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I bought it in a large “Lot” of audio equipment. At the time it was dead. Onkyo replaced the HDMI board in it. Has worked great every since. Sometimes it struggles with HDMI Handshake though
@Zoranurai13
@Zoranurai13 6 жыл бұрын
So i’m doubting whether to go for the rp160m with a 440c or prime bookshelves and prime center. Are these easy to drive for something like a denon 2400h?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
The 2400 page is 95 W per channel with two channels driven. The more speakers you add to the receiver, the less wattage per channel you will get. I have driven a pair of Klipsch RF83 which are big monster towers using a Harman Kardin AVR 55 (which was only 55 W per channel) and it sounded amazing. That’s one of the benefits with clips speakers is that they are extremely efficient and do not take a lot of power to drive them to pretty ridiculous levels
@tcreed1143
@tcreed1143 5 жыл бұрын
I got my front floor speakers set at plus 5 after I did the audyssey set up , I got the klipsch RP280 F and I got no subs hook up and this speakers do great job on the bass side , the floor shake pretty gd ..👍
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Try to keep your trim levels in your receiver at 0dB or lower as you don’t want to introduce distortion
@Bryan-hd7nm
@Bryan-hd7nm 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Is that the right way to measure a subwoofer? I did mine that way with the spl meter and the sub is about 5db higher than my speakers. Thanks!
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bryan, I'm not sure I'm understanding your question. Can you clarify and provide more details of your setup? Are you using the same receiver and subs that I am?
@Bryan-hd7nm
@Bryan-hd7nm 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman when I use my spl meter like you show on the video it sets my sub about 5db higher than my mains when I run my pink noise the sub just has a rumbling sound unlike the speakers on my denon. Is that still normal? Am I doing it right? Thanks!
@kevinweithers1223
@kevinweithers1223 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Youthman. Is there a reason you're using the "fast" setting on the spl meter? Generally, when you measure the spl of your speakers, the setting should be on "slow" and "c" weighting. Cheers.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. I have always used C weighting until recently, I was advised that I had been doing it wrong and to use Fast as this is the way our ears hear.
@kenzo06ful
@kenzo06ful 6 жыл бұрын
Hi did you have the time to test the svs ultra uowers against the Klipsch RP-280F..? And in that case whats your thougts betwin theme..? Im thinking on switching to svs prime towers and svs ultra center. Frome my klipsch RP-280F And klipsch RP-450C but dont realy now yet. Any sugestions for me there..? Best regards Peter
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, I have not heard the RP-280F yet. I was hoping Klipsch would have sent them while I had the Ultra Towers.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the RF7 III but they are in a different tier of speakers than the Ultra Towers.
@timinla64
@timinla64 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to buy a pair of RF-7III's, but always worry about how modern speakers would match up with a vintage receiver. Specifically, my 1978 Marantz 2500. Any thoughts?.
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Quality speakers sound good regardless of whether they are old or new. I used to have a vintage Harman Kardon Receiver with my Klipsch and they sounded great. I’m just never got into vintage electronics.
@Rerry1000
@Rerry1000 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video telling about why use a pre amp and power amp separete instead a receiver like denon X8500H,
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Yes once I receive an actual PrePro, I would be glad to.
@ajaykandra
@ajaykandra 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Youthman, whats ur opinion on Atmos upward firing speakers. Do u believe in the concept or do u think in-ceiling wired speakers are the way to go? Which upward firing speakers are the best in 500$ range? Thanks
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I’m fairly new to Dolby Atmos but everything that I have read suggest that in ceiling would be the best option, the next best option would be height speakers (like the SVS Prime Elevations) And the most convenient option, but probably the least effective option, would be Atmos modules placed on top of your speakers
@ajaykandra5027
@ajaykandra5027 6 жыл бұрын
Thank a lot for your opinion..!
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@romanlewandowski9616
@romanlewandowski9616 4 жыл бұрын
another informative video well done Youthman. I certainly agree adding an AMP to a middle or lower end AVR would improve the sound however on the flagship AVR such as the Marantz SR 8012 unless you have power hungry speaker,as I have an anthem PVA 4 125 watts continuous all channels driven.and it didn’t sound any better on my Klipsch RP280f running directly from my Marantz SR 8012 in fact it sounds better on the Marantz.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Adding an a Parasound A52+ to the SR8012 with my Klipsch LaScalas didn’t make much of a difference.
@alexlisney446
@alexlisney446 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative thanks, would you set the sub at 75db too?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the video, I tend to bump my subs up a few dB over the other speakers. Just personal preference
@alexlisney446
@alexlisney446 6 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Gladly
@MrBoomtheroom
@MrBoomtheroom 4 жыл бұрын
What about same sensitivity but different resistance?
@theredon2
@theredon2 6 жыл бұрын
I think is more stable if you use the low response. Great video
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that Slow C gives an average of the SPL instead of an “Accurate” SPL reading.
@yogeshsakhare8299
@yogeshsakhare8299 6 жыл бұрын
I have Wharfedale Diamond speakers and they have 86 db (front ) & 89 db sensitive (centre channel ). I know they require more as compared to sensitive one from ur this video. Plz make videos on SONY ES Series receiver. I really want ur hands on that and ur thoughts on that. I am considering buying ES 2100 receiver.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. There are many other receiver manufacturers I have not reviewed yet. How many speakers are you running? Does the 2100 have preouts?
@Micke65
@Micke65 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there . Are klipsch rf 7 II as good as the best in its class regarding clarity and resolution mr youthman ? Playing now with Focal 836 w ..and only 2 channels for me .
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I have not heard any of the focal speakers yet so I cannot comment on how they compare to the Klipsch RF-7 II. I have heard great things about focal though
@Micke65
@Micke65 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman ok. Im thinking in general in its Prince range.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
The clarity and detail Klipsch speakers provide Is one of the main reasons that my ears have always preferred their sound. I remember owning Polk audio speakers And one day I bought a pair of Klipsch speakers and could not believe how much detail I was hearing and how much content was being masked and hidden by the Polk.
@Micke65
@Micke65 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman i also had polk once sda somthing with an extra cabel connecting them for enhanced wide stereo ..was good then . my ref then was cervin wega at -100 hehe . hard to listen to thoose klipsch here in Sweden . also looking at kef r900 ..keep it up .
@mudfan061
@mudfan061 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a comparison review of the SVS Ultra Tower and the Klipsch RF 7 III?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Wes, I returned the SVS Ultra Towers and ended up selling my son’s RF7, gave him my RF7 II and upgraded to the RF7 III. Compared to the Ultra Towers, the RF7 III have a bigger sound stage, has an enormous 1.75” titanium compression driver tweeter, have more bottom end due to the larger 10” woofers and speaker cabinet and have an incredibly refined top end without sacrificing detail and clarity. The Ultra Towers likely fall somewhere between the RP-280F and the RF7 III and based on their price points. Hope that helps.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
The Ultra Towers do sound great, especially for Home Theater. They were “ok” for music, just not quite what my ears prefer.
@mudfan061
@mudfan061 6 жыл бұрын
I would only expect them to perform well above 60Hz or 80Hz. Is this not true when compared with the RF7?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure exactly on what frequencies the RF7 III handled better than the Ultra Towers. The Ultras had a surprisingly amount of slam in 2ch listening. I have a review on them
@mudfan061
@mudfan061 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the info
@joellaprade4232
@joellaprade4232 6 жыл бұрын
That was really cool! Thanks YM
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel
@Modeltrainscarsstereos614
@Modeltrainscarsstereos614 6 жыл бұрын
Missed you at the pilgrimage make sure next year you Hit that gas and down there lol
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Man I know. I REALLY thought I was going to make it but just too much going on at the same time. Will try again next year. Would love to bring my friend Wakejunkie with me.
@Quetzalcoatl0
@Quetzalcoatl0 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you did a comparison, between both to see if they actually have 12db difference or not. I wanted to see a 30hz a 50hz 80hz 150hz 300hz 800hz 1000hz 3000hz test tones on a stock AVR with same volume to see if they really really are 12db more sensitive. Because klupsch says 100db on a 1k test tone, while svs says 88db from 300hz - 3000hz. Edit if the klipsch is 100db and 250watts continuous, it should produce 124.8db at 1 meter. Which for it size is realistic but idk. The R-24F uses 2x4.5 inch with sensitivity of 95 db and 75 watts continues . So it should reach 114.5 db at 1m which for 2x4.5 inch woofers is insane and unrealistic for me. But no one is doing apple to apples comparison.
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio 3 ай бұрын
The fact of the matter is that this is nonsense and complete nonsense about 100dB, there is no such data anywhere near it, it is unrealistic for this type of speaker! It’s just that people are very poorly educated and don’t understand what such values ​​are in reality, they wrote to them and took them to heart!)) I still believe in 91db, but 100db is a fairy tale for little children!)))
@MykWazowski
@MykWazowski 6 жыл бұрын
I've had the same Klipsch RF-5II's for close to 15 years, as my dedicated theater speakers, also 2-channel, which include fronts, center and 2 rears, this system includes a mid-high tier Onkyo TX-NR929 and 1 Sunfire True Signature subwoofer. I think I'm going to finally upgrade them. The new 2018 Klipsch Reference Premier speakers that come out this August are at the top of my list. Which will include the mains that include the 8" woofer, and the center with the two 6.5 woofers, not sure about the surrounds yet, I listen to a lot of 5.1 music so I like the bookshelf (front firing) models as opposed to the bipole. Haven't decided on subs yet, but the SVS SB-4000 and JL subs are at the top of my list . Question: How do you rate SVS sound compared to Klipsch? I know it's an Apple to Oranges comparison, unfortunately no one around me demos SVS, I've compared Klipsch with Martin Logan Motion 40 and 60 series, and while the ML seemed a bit more smooth, airy, and not as in your face as the Klipsch Reference models, they were a great deal more money...I think after 20 years of only having Klipsch, my ears have grown accustom to that "horn sound". Thoughts?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Myk, the Reference Premiere are definitely at a much more affordable price point than the larger RF7 III Series. It just depends on what you are looking for and what your needs are. I'm looking forward to reviewing them sometime in the future when they come out. I have heard great things about the SB-4000 but have not heard it myself. I recently reviewed Dual SB16's and they are incredible. I just sent them back today and am still reviewing the PB16 which I REALLY like as they have more output than the SB16's. As far as how do SVS compare to Klipsch? I have only heard the SVS Ultra Towers with Ultra Center. They sound great but they definitely have a completely different signature sound to them. Klipsch speakers provide a more lively, in your face type sound with incredible detail and high sensitivity meaning you can drive them with a lot less power and still get the same volume as you would with a speaker with lower sensitivity. The RF7 III provide a very refined top end, yet they maintain the incredible detail Klipsch is known for. I have not heard the Reference Premiere so I cannot comment on how they sound. My ears still prefer the horn sound as well. I LOVE the detail I get with Klipsch and the power and emotion they provide. With Klipsch, typically the bigger the cabinet, the larger the sound will be. Hope that helps.
@user-sf9oi4dp2g
@user-sf9oi4dp2g 5 жыл бұрын
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@rigobertosolorzano8568
@rigobertosolorzano8568 4 жыл бұрын
If money was not important, what speaker sounds better, SVS Ultra tower or Klipsch RP-8000F? Your opinion will help me make a decision, thank you!
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Neither sounds better, they both sound completely different. It simply comes down to the sound your ears prefer. Both are great speakers. The Ultra Towers are a bit more picky with placement due to the side firing drivers. They need space to sound optimal.
@rigobertosolorzano8568
@rigobertosolorzano8568 4 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman Thank you for taking the time to reply! It's very appreciated!
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@gonz33-
@gonz33- 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning sir, please can you help me decide which one to buy for my birthday, I want a pair of Quality Speakers, and I am among the (JBL S3900 Synthesis) or the (Klipsch RF-7III) my system is composed of a Pre-Amp P-3000 and Amplifier M-5000R both ONKYO CD Player Rotel. (I am a fan of good quality Stereo sound) thank you and I hope you can help me say the best.
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, unfortunately ai have not heard the JBL Synthesis so I cannot advise how they compare to the RF7 III. I really enjoy my RF7 III in my 2ch setup
@stevenjack23331
@stevenjack23331 4 жыл бұрын
Klipsch 100%. JBL is nice but they are a high priced average market speaker.
@ajaykandra
@ajaykandra 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Youthman, I own 2 RF 82s/RC 62 MARK II.. Looking to upgrade. I am trying hard to decide between SVS ULTRA towers and Klipsch RF 7 iii. I ordered the SVS ultra 45 day trial. The SVS seemed way better than RF 82ii with much detail and less noise at 60-70 levels. Can you please tell me if the RF 7 iii mark 3, would give me even more detail than SVS?. How is the surround, sharpness and the noise with RF 7 iii. I have enough bass with a SVS PB 16.My most important thing is to have details, clean sound with less noise, and also less distorsion with high volume.Please AdviceThanks
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Aya, I have had the RF7 III and Ultra Towers for several months and although the Ultras Sound great, my ears prefer the RF7 III. They have a refined top end without sacrificing the detail that Klipsch is know for, more bottom end due to the larger Dual 10” woofers, and a bigger overall sound, likely due to the larger speaker cabinet and massive horn. If you feed the RF7 III clean power, your ears will give out before they do. I like them so much that I sold my original RF7’s, upgraded to the RF7 III, and gave my son the RF7 II to match his RC64 II.
@ajaykandra
@ajaykandra 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman Thanks for ur reply. I found the RC 62 ii Center channel not so great with voice, in movies.. would u say RC 64iii is better than the RC 62 and the SVS center channel?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
The Ultra Center really surprised me how well it sounded, especially for the price. I also really enjoyed the RC-64 III but did not do any direct A/B between the two
@bustercolin7507
@bustercolin7507 2 жыл бұрын
Which speakers did you prefer out of the two?
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
It was an easy choice to me. I still have the RF7 III in my 2ch setup.
@bustercolin7507
@bustercolin7507 2 жыл бұрын
@@Youthman Nice
@meangreen4500
@meangreen4500 5 жыл бұрын
I have all klipsch speakers and a 9.2 onkyo reciever.i need someone like youthman to calibrate my speakers perfectly. I have 2 klipsch 12 inch subwoofers also.going to best buy this black Friday to find the 450c center speaker
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about my system being perfectly calibrated but take a look at this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIuTpKmwjrh0e68 on how to calibrate your system with Audyssey (if your Onkyo has Audyssey).
@locky6796
@locky6796 6 жыл бұрын
What speakers sound better in your opinion, klipsch vs SVS, since you have both.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave I prefer the sound of the RF-7 III over the SVS Ultra Tower but it’s not really a fair comparison. The RF7 Series has a much larger cabinet, larger woofers, much larger tweeter, and a huge horn to disperse the high frequencies which provides a much wider soundstage. Although the Bass response from the SVS Ultra Towers is really good, the Bass from the RF-7 III is ridiculous. 😀. Dual 10” drivers provide plenty of bottom end for my 2ch setup without the need of a subwoofer. I really like the way the SVS Ultra Towers sound, especially for the price but they just aren’t the same caliber as the RF-7 III. I have not heard the Klipsch RP-280F yet but I would think the SVS ultra towers are more along the lines of it than they are with the RF-7 III. What speakers do you currently have?
@locky6796
@locky6796 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman, I run Dali zensor series, thinking of upgrading and have been looking at the SVS ultra, I personally not a fan of klipch, not saying that they are bad, just not for me. I'll probably go to the Dali opticon as I really like there speakers.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that Dave. I think it's great that there are soooo many great speakers out there for us to choose according to our preferences. I have been using the Ultra Towers and Center for the past 2 months and have enjoyed them for both 2ch listening as well as for home theater. I believe they are definitely a great bang for your buck and you are getting more than what they cost. I'm not familiar with Dali. I'll have to look them up sometime. If you do decide on the SVS Ultras, if you use any of my links in the description of my video, I will receive a small commission for referring you. Good luck with whatever you decide and thanks for watching!
@locky6796
@locky6796 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman, thanks for your feedback and spending your time replying to my comments. I enjoy your content and will subscribe. Keep up the informative videos. We all appreciate it.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference between the RF7 II and the RF7 III?
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Raymond, check out these two comparison videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGS9hXR_bpJjbNU kzbin.info/www/bejne/onWYnZRmoth0i7s Let me know if that helps
@brianbrewer2485
@brianbrewer2485 5 жыл бұрын
My Khorns are the TSCMs I use 5 and they are dangerous. At 110 DB at one watt, a person has to wonder about an amp that claims 175 watts per channel, Denon 8500 that hardly pushes much sound output at half volume, Really odd. I hooked up another actual Denon POA 2800 and oops, hurt my ears really bad still ringing with pain. Oh well, taking a sound break for a couple months. Yeah, I have some NHTs tried them out rated 86DB and the issue you really get is compression. Think of it like a sponge, if we send 100 watts, most speakers use 4 watts of that 100. The rest dissipates to heat. Think light bulb inside the magnet, yeah, so the lower the dB the more chance you get of blowing a speaker to play at reference levels. Klipschorns might use half a watt to get ref level. The other interesting thing, the lower rated output also have a softer sound for hearing details, or you can say really revealing of details. Not all, but yeah, that happens. So late at night, I will use my NHTs, using all separate amps you can just AB the speaker choices, fun fun. I like your videos. Very cool. You really try a lot of speakers too. Nice.
@sanonmars
@sanonmars 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. In my medium size (I think) living room of 19*9*9 feet (having hard tiled floor, concrete walls and ceiling) I have Wharfedale Diamond 220 LCR driven by Yamaha RXV677 AVR. Presently the listening distance is 8 feet. Surrounds are old Sony HiFi Bookshelf (16-32 ohm). I want to upgrade Centre for dialogue clarity. I am considering SVS Prime or Klipsch RP250c (higher price than Svs even after discount). In India both cost 50% more than in US so max budget. May upgrade the LR also in future if required (not bothered about timbre matching presently). My problem is I am very sensitive to sound of Cymbals and bigger bells in temples. I can not stand their lound sound even for a couple of seconds. So shall these speakers with Metal Twitters be shrill or bright at Moderate Volume in untreated room. When I demoed Klipsch RP (some floorstander, RP 160, 450C) in fully treated theatre room, I felt sound of swords a bit sharp/bright. Do my system and room size need very sensitive speakers like Klipsch? Kindly clarify. TIA. Regards Sanjay.
@JeffersonSoaresSP
@JeffersonSoaresSP 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha RX-1080, could you please tell me which are the best speakers for this receiver?
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that is a very subjective subject since we all hear differently and we each have differences in what we feel sounds the best. I personally prefer the sound of Klipsch over SVS. The RF7 III is a much better speaker than the Ultra Towers but they also cost a lot more too.
@JeffersonSoaresSP
@JeffersonSoaresSP 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering! I intend to listen to music on this receiver, so I want to buy speakers that have good bass and treble sounds (more bass maybe).
@thegoat164
@thegoat164 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeffersonSoaresSP Do NOT buy the Klipsch, they are loud obnoxious ear bleeders!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Mike this is one of the dumbest comments I’ve seen on the Internet in a long time. You’re welcome to your opinion but I can assure you that everyone feels the same
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I’m kind of curious, what specific models have you heard?
@bizyz
@bizyz 6 жыл бұрын
hey youth man,i have seen in various postings on the internet of pictures and video clips of klipsch speakers being powered by mcintosh amps.with klipsch speakers being so sensitive,why are these audiophiles using such powerful amplification?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more about quality, than it is about having high power. Having more power does allow you to have more headroom which helps reduce the chance of clipping and distortion.
@toddroy9558
@toddroy9558 2 жыл бұрын
Can you put 3 towers behind your screen instead of 2 towers and a center speaker?
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely three identical Speakers is the best way to go behind a screen. I cannot do towers because it would put the tweeter too high. The JTR 212HTR have the tweeter and midrange in the center which is much more ideal for my setup
@toddroy9558
@toddroy9558 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, also does the screen have to be transparent or can it have a black backing?
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
It depends how it is made. If the black backing is acoustic transparent, that would be fine. Mine does not have black backing
@scottlowell493
@scottlowell493 6 жыл бұрын
You hit on a very important and understated point. Fact: you could spend up to 3 grand on an a/v receiver. INSTEAD of being accurately measured 20hz-20khz all channels driven for
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s frustrating Scott that receiver manufacturers aren’t required to use the same specs so it’s often misleading. I once had a Yamaha RX-V1800 which claimed 130x7. After doing some research, I found out that sound and vision did some benchmark testing on it and with seven channels driven, it drops to only 55 W per channel
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use Klipsch for studio monitors for mixing. Mainly for movie theaters, home theaters and 2ch systems
@meangreen4500
@meangreen4500 5 жыл бұрын
I find your videos educational. I love my klipsch speakers from my first bookshelves I bought. Now I have 2 bookshelves and 6 tower speakers and the 240 center speaker. But now I have a more powerful receiver so I have to upgrade my center speaker. I love to watch movies and listen to music on my klipsch
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralph. I’m glad you are finding value in the content
@AGC828
@AGC828 6 жыл бұрын
So true. Sensitivity efficiency has nothing to do with which speaker is better. Sounds better. As Klipsch speakers have traditionally been a little too bright sounding to some ears because they use horn divers for their tweeters. To producing the highs. Not sure if it's still the case today in 2018. What kind of tweeters and the materials used can make a huge difference in which brand some one likes. And is more important I think than which speakers are easier to drive.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It’s all about preference. I think Klipsch nailed it with the RF7 III. Refined top end without sacrificing detail or clarity
@stevenjacks3701
@stevenjacks3701 5 жыл бұрын
I too agree...every time iv heard klipsch at loud volumes they Make my ears Hurt in a very short time, or to word it better they are a very fatiguing speaker to listen to at loud volumes, i had the very same experience with an older set of ar speakers that were also horn loaded, interestingly enough cerwin vegas Do not do this although i would not describe them as a warm smooth speaker in home, only two speakers i have ever had that dont give any fatigue at extreme levels have been dali's and svs, the dali 909's i had were very good for long loud rock sessions with no strain the svs ultra's just keep Getting louder with no sign of listner fatigue, even with the diff tweeter set up i found the svs got more solid to listen to at high volumes and when i got used to that i just went louder.....beware your ears with svs they really are that good
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience Steve. The Ultra Towers are great speakers and performed much better than I expected. The RF7 III have a much smoother top end than most Klipsch speakers but they certainly aren’t for everyone.
@Mrtscrp30
@Mrtscrp30 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do some videos on the different levels of home theatre investment's. I watch you guys do these videos and your center channel costs more than most of my equipment combined. Most average consumers do not have the funds to have that level of home theatre . I want to achieve high quality sound as much as I can afford but I need to be realistic about costs. Can you help ?
@kingtrance6826
@kingtrance6826 5 жыл бұрын
Klipsch has many budget friendly speakers you might want to check out. You could put together a nice compact 5.1 system with a Klipsch RP-250c center speaker and 4 of the Klipsch RP-150m bookshelf speakers and a small subwoofer.
@shaundavidssd
@shaundavidssd 5 жыл бұрын
+King Trance in the UK ..this brand you speak of is eclipsed by superior products ...it's time to change your tune ....not everyone is a clueless yank subjected to brainwashing by guys like yourself who seem obsessed with Klipsch and the other no name brand lmfao
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Mr, one way to achieve higher end products on a budget is to buy quality used gear. I have built most of my home theater from finding ridiculous deals on quality used gear. Just got to be patient and constantly looking because awesome deals go fast.
@BrianGreen28
@BrianGreen28 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaundavidssd Im taking your troll bait just to say you my friend are a moronic Brit in desperate need of expensive dental work that wont allow you to afford speakers from goodwill let alone SVS or Klipsch. SVS is made in the US do they suck too? AM I brainwashed? Sadly, you missed the point OP raised which was about able to afford , in comparison to what was in the video. So King Trance not knowing OP's budget let him know that you dont have to spend what the creator of the video spent and that their are other options even within the same family.
@guppy9713
@guppy9713 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaundavidssd What brands would you recommend. I'm a complete novice and researching speakers. I am hoping to convert my garage into a home theater and want something that sounds good but doesn't cost the earth. My budget is up about £1500 max. My room is 16'x9' rectangle shape. I was thinking a 5.1 system might work?? . Would love to go 7.1 but I doubt I'd get something fairly good for that budget.
@chehau997
@chehau997 5 жыл бұрын
perphase u may try procella audio
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps.
@caesarc.4079
@caesarc.4079 5 жыл бұрын
The new standard for calibration is 78-82db. This is how home theatre should be calibrated now for Dolby Atmos and other multi dimensional formats. People might think is loud but believe me it makes a difference. These are the guide lines for Dolby Atmos www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-atmos/dolby-atmos-home-theater-installation-guidelines.pdf
@DarinBuss
@DarinBuss 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome I use the same radio shack db meter in my room I’ve had it for about 7 years
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Me too Darin. I picked mine up many years ago as well. Still works perfect!
@raduadrian.c5503
@raduadrian.c5503 2 жыл бұрын
One important thing to note about sensitivity is that contributes to the maximum loudness of a speaker. Example: If we have 2 speakers: - Speaker 1: with 125W and 100 DB sensitivity ( 121 DB maximum SPL peak) - Speaker 2: with 250W and 88 DB sensitivity ( 112 DB maximum SPL peak) Speaker 1 will sound louder because it will produce a higher SPL ( Sound Pressure Level )
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that the whole point of sensitive speakers? They get louder with the same wattage as a speaker that is less efficient and they take less wattage to achieve the same SPL with less wattage as a speaker with lower sensitivity.
@haris525
@haris525 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. I used to own R7 ii - I liked them but I like my svs ultra towers better. Probably because the klipsch were bright. However for music I prefer my paradigm signature s8 still. Btw I am a big klipsch fan. I own klipsch CF4 v1 (pair), C7 center channel, and KLF 30. The only new klipsch I owned were the RF7. Funnily my s8 will amaze people the most.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool Haris. Our ears all hear differently and we each have different taste. No right or wrong in that. I’m grateful there are so many brands available to fit every preference
@beastscinema3964
@beastscinema3964 6 жыл бұрын
👍
@avdigetalaudiovideosolutio8311
@avdigetalaudiovideosolutio8311 Жыл бұрын
🎉
@davidstock3323
@davidstock3323 5 жыл бұрын
Like you have used the term in another videos slam I have always loved Klipsch speakers I have rf7 and rf-83 S when I bought my SVS sb13 2of them I love them so I bought the ultra Towers and The center Channel I enjoy rock and roll and dubstep the SVS Towers and Center Channel could not handle what I was putting them through I had cooked the tweeters and then called SVS and went through the whole gamut of setting things up again with the crossover set properly and all that to their discretion I cook them again I have played the same things with the RF7 and the RF 83 s and never had a problem the Ultras are not bad speakers but they're not speakers for high-power and high volume and that is which I enjoy but Klipsch for that matter slams I have not had good luck with Klipsch subwoofers but again I love my SVS sb13 s if anybody out there is looking to get a new subwoofer SVS is the way to go but for Tower speakers for that price point Klipsch is the best I enjoy your videos youth man
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. I agree...the higher end Klipsch speakers have no problem handling high SPL with both clarity and authority.
@jasonferguson9003
@jasonferguson9003 5 жыл бұрын
Comparing $1800 speakers to $1000 speakers is not really the same price point IMO. I heard the RF-7's last week and the sound quality was fantastic. I won't know about the Ultras till next week when mine arrive. Good comment!
@georgepg6563
@georgepg6563 6 жыл бұрын
hi, Always buy good sensitivity speakers that save money in power amp and electricity bill.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely can save you some money buying high sensitive speakers
@bicepius
@bicepius 6 жыл бұрын
Try vs Arendal 1723
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Those look cool. Not sure they would want to ship to the US
@Celestialrob
@Celestialrob 3 жыл бұрын
Switching from B&W to Klipsch-thanks
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 3 жыл бұрын
Just wish I could afford speakers with more emotional feedback. Mine tend to be a bit too emo for my tastes.
@justingeraldi2304
@justingeraldi2304 5 жыл бұрын
I think you were reading your meter wrong. For example with dial Set to 70 and the needle on 5 that would be 75 decibals
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
That happens to me a lot. I should get a digital meter. I took Trigonometry and Analytical Geometry in 11th grade but have always struggled with simple math in my head.
@jamesstegbauer5454
@jamesstegbauer5454 5 жыл бұрын
Makes it a lot easier if you change the response from FAST to SLOW.......
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, I have always used Slow, then I posted the video and guys were suggesting use Fast as it’s the real response instead of an average. Looks like there are varied opinions on which is the correct setting to use.
@jamesstegbauer5454
@jamesstegbauer5454 5 жыл бұрын
A good reference on How to Use an SPL Meter to Calibrate Speaker Levels is from Gene DellaSala, Audioholics President & Owner, and Co-Founder of the Home Theater Alliance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4q3fKOwl51ql7M
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thx for the link. I’ll check it out
@23x31
@23x31 6 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about Klipsch and SVS sometime?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. Is there anything particular you are looking for?
@23x31
@23x31 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't diversify, others will unsubscribe, like me. Have you noticed your subscriber count isn't really growing? Its basically all Klipsch, all the time and is likely moving to all SVS all the time. Look at the Audiophiliac guy for example. He was at 2,000 subs not long ago and now at 17,000+. And Paul McGowan...maybe six months back had 3,000 subs and now has 29,000. Why? They don't talk about the same shit and same products 24/7. Although I don't agree with the load of mostly bullshit spewing from Paul McGowan, at least he's interesting and diverse. Klipsch...Klipsch...Klipsch...stick a fork in it dude.......its done and burnt.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, thank you for your feedback and for your suggestions. The reason why I talk about Klipsch so much is because I have owned a ton of Klipsch products for many years and enjoy the sound and quality of their products. I have no problem reviewing other brands but I can only review and produce so many videos in a given time. In addition to Youthman Reviews, I also maintain a full-time day job, operate a full-time home business at night as well as having a family of 6 to balance. I have recently been in communication with Paradigm, PSA, Emotiva as well as several other manufacturers so there are indeed plans of reviewing other brands besides Klipsch and SVS. I'm not sure why you feel I'm moving from Klipsch to "likely moving to all SVS all the time". The SVS Ultra Towers are great speakers but do not have near the dynamics nor the soundstage as my Klipsch LaScalas, nor the bottom end or overall presence of my Klipsch RF-7 II. I am however ready to upgrade my Klipsch subs. It is possible that I might upgrade to a Dual SVS PB16's but will also soon be reviewing the Power Sound Audio S3601 subs. As far as subscribers, I realize my channel will not appeal to everyone but over the last 90 days, the channel has added 2847 new subscribers with less than 7% who have unsubscribed so if I'm appealing to 93% of my viewers, I must be doing something right. I certainly appreciate my subscribers but realize my channel isn't for everyone. If my channel isn't what you are looking for and you choose to be among the 7%, I can completely respect that.
@cdommel
@cdommel 6 жыл бұрын
If you dont like it just leave. Why bitch on your way out??? Go out and buy the speakers and do your own demo. Keep it up Youthman! Most of us dig your stuff!
@freddygenao6035
@freddygenao6035 6 жыл бұрын
I will have to give it to Youthman. With only 2 brands he has managed to keep His video informative and enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
@Ghost-Matrix
@Ghost-Matrix 6 жыл бұрын
iv got those B&W speakers 😀, it’s weird cause in the UK iv never seen any audiophile speaker above 91db or so. The B&W had one of the best sensitivity of the speakers I tested at that price, got mine in piano white. It’s a beauty, sounds great as well 👍
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’ve always been a fan of B&W. My Klipsch LaScalas have a sensitivity of 104 dB
@Ghost-Matrix
@Ghost-Matrix 6 жыл бұрын
Youthman Jesus! Haha. They are big buggers too
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah 123lbs.
@nic2098
@nic2098 6 жыл бұрын
Most audiophiles say klipsch are fun speakers not audiophile quality lol
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Eh...to each his own. I’ve never considered myself as an audiophile.
@meangreen4500
@meangreen4500 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a tech guy but I know I have good equipment. Want to use it to its best potential
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@pitchyydneu8826
@pitchyydneu8826 5 жыл бұрын
I listened to a pair of RP-280F speakers in a store without a sub. Just these two. He told me they were connected into a Denon avr costing hardly 280 euros. I forgot the details of the avr. Point is, even though they sounded great on a few genres including jazz and dance/trance, they literally --and I'm sorry for the expression-- SUCKED HARD when we went to metal songs that have one of the best mixes in the world. They sounded so harsh, you couldn't understand what was playing and it was just bad. There was no distortion but it wasn't clear AT ALL. These songs play very well on my current $600 5.1 edifier speakers and I expected a far better quality from Klipsch, but, oh man, I got sooooo disappointed... I was planning to get those speakers and Denon avr x6300H to slowly start building my Dolby Atmos. But when I heard them from that store , yes, with that cheap as hell avr, I was so let down.. Anything you can comment on that?
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry you had a bad experience with them. I have not heard the Reference Premier Speakers yet but Klipsch is sending me a new 7.2.4 RP System sometime this month. In the past, some have felt the RF82 II (which are somewhat similar to the RP-280F) were a bit harsh. The RF7 III are super smooth on the top end, detailed, yet very refined. But they should be as they cost a LOT more than the RP-280F.
@pitchyydneu8826
@pitchyydneu8826 5 жыл бұрын
I already have Edifier S760D that cost me 590 euros. I live in a small room and they kind of satisfy me. These speakers SHOULD be WAY better than my Edifier S760D and they are.. just not in Metal songs where you have guitars and harsh mix. My speakers own the hell out of RP-280F in terms of quality when it comes to metal songs (at least the ones I heard from that store on a 280 euro Receiver) and that's WEIRD, because in terms of speaker quality and material quality and oh my god the price difference, RP-280F should be better by far. My speakers do not provide dolby atmos or DTS-X whatsoever, just regular 5.1 dolby digital and dts surround. I wanted to go for Dolby Atmos and after that experience on that store , on that particular AV receiver and after reading nothing but the best about RP-280F, my dreams are crushed lol
@georgepopescu1327
@georgepopescu1327 5 жыл бұрын
good speakers are picky with amplifier matching, especially Klipsch, you can't expect those speakers to sound good from any crappy receiver, and your edifier is by no means able to reproduce correctly the songs, not even close, there are a lot of details it can't reproduce, you cannot even compare those two, these products are from different worlds
@pitchyydneu8826
@pitchyydneu8826 5 жыл бұрын
I know they are from different worlds. But, even though Edifier speakers are supposed to play worse, they play Metal songs way better, even on flat.. And what defines "correctly" anyway. For me, correctly is how each band has mixed their songs and what it sounds like in your home compared to that. But in the end, it all comes down to whether you like what you hear or not. If you need more bass, more crystal clear sound, more treble etc. Yes, you change your sound and make your .. "own mix", but this is how you make the songs sound better according to your tastes. And I am not sure if you can do that with Klipsch, like I can do with my Edifier..
@georgepopescu1327
@georgepopescu1327 5 жыл бұрын
,,corectly'' = the ability to reproduce the entire frecqency spectrum with good dynamics, a thing that your edifier's are not even close. They need another amp to sound good, period, not the one you have listened. But you don't have to spend 1000$ to upgrade from edifier, you can find a lot of 300$ bookshelf with nice sound.
@calaf_725
@calaf_725 6 жыл бұрын
I had the Ultra Towers not so long ago. They had the biggest soundstage of any speaker i have tried so far and they got real bass. I assume the Klipsch RF-7 III have their charms but considering the money difference you get more with SVS. Whats more they are easier to mate with an amp because you do not have to worry about the highs getting bright. All in all better value for money and more universal appeal, if not better in absolute terms.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you do get a lot of bang for your buck with the SVS Ultra Towers. They sound great and have a descent size sound stage and a solid bottom end without sounding boomy. In my room, the RF-7 III have a much wider soundstage (very enveloping sound due to the horn) and due to the refinements in the tweeter and the new rubber horn, the highs are not harsh or overly bright, yet remain very detailed. Most people would be very pleased with either speaker. It all comes down to preference and budget. Thanks for watching!
@b0ssm4ch1n3
@b0ssm4ch1n3 5 жыл бұрын
but how is the bottom end compared to the svs? Just as had hitting?? Ive got the klipshc itch lol
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
The RF7 II and RF7 III have more bottom end slam than the SVS Ultra Towers.
@b0ssm4ch1n3
@b0ssm4ch1n3 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply. much appreciated. keep up the good work!
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@arongatt
@arongatt 6 жыл бұрын
lower DB also translate to better bass response, there are always tradeoffs with speakers tho..
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting....I've never heard that before. I'm not sure how sensitivity would effect bass response. I could be wrong but I would think it would be more depending upon driver size and cabinet. I know my RF-7 II have more bottom end than the Ultra Towers but they have dual 10's vs dual 8's.
@jeffmorefield
@jeffmorefield 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you ever hear that crap! Prove it!
@HectorLabra
@HectorLabra 5 жыл бұрын
No entendi niun carajo 🙃🤣 por que usan los db en negativo 🤔🙃
@koolkiwikat
@koolkiwikat 5 жыл бұрын
I hit stop when I saw the analog db meter
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Did you stop listening when you walk into a room and hear an analog vinyl system? LOL
@konadbenz3383
@konadbenz3383 6 жыл бұрын
hi thanks klipsch sound and beauty these "others" have strange faces. like orks (lord of the rings) cheers k
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Owen_7271
@Owen_7271 6 жыл бұрын
3 feet is 0,9 meters 3'4" is 1 meter
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Thx I learn something new every day. 😀
@Owen_7271
@Owen_7271 6 жыл бұрын
no problem man
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I’m always grateful to learn from others. Hopefully we all are able to glean knowledge from each other.
@nestorperez3033
@nestorperez3033 4 жыл бұрын
Just saying. They aren't on a same level one is 1800 each the other is 999 each
@nestorperez3033
@nestorperez3033 4 жыл бұрын
Not hating I still believe you were right
@Youthman
@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын
True, completely different tier speakers but I review what I have in at the time.
@jamiet74
@jamiet74 6 жыл бұрын
Their ratings definitely aren't "apples to apples". Klipsch's sensitivity rating is almost certainly inflated 4-6dB. Even their spec sheet says "*Sensitivity in average listening room" in other words "half-space" - whereas SVS's spec sheet says "Full-space" or anechoic.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how each company measures the sensitivity of their speakers. I do know that Klipsch does have an anechoic chamber in Hope, AR where they manufacture some of their speakers like the RF-7 III. Whether they use that for all of their speakers or not is unknown to me. The point of the video was to share what sensitivity is and show that it takes more power to drive a less efficient speaker. When I moved the SVS Ultra Towers I to the theater room and hooked them up, I immediately noticed they were significantly lower volume than the RF-7 III so I thought it would be a great opportunity to show physically and audible the difference. Thanks for watching.
@koolkiwikat
@koolkiwikat 6 жыл бұрын
I watched untill you pulled out a manual spl meter..... Seriously?
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Completely seriously. It works just as good as a Digital SPL Meter.
@koolkiwikat
@koolkiwikat 6 жыл бұрын
So does your RSW15 subs....time to upgrade bro!
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
Already sold one RSW-15, other three are listed 😀 After hearing the depth of the PB16, I’m ready to upgrade
@georgepopescu1327
@georgepopescu1327 5 жыл бұрын
what about sound matching between sub and speakers? isn't a problem that you have them from different manufacturers?
@Youthman
@Youthman 5 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Tons of guys using different subs than their other speakers. Speakers that have Tweeters and midrange you will want to keep from the same manufacturer and typically from the same Series.
@paulrogers7067
@paulrogers7067 Жыл бұрын
Svs kills the rfs
@Youthman
@Youthman Жыл бұрын
If you think so. 😉
@roybatty-
@roybatty- 9 ай бұрын
You want to hear a funny joke? Klipsch 🤣
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 2 жыл бұрын
Klipsch rf7 is not 100db
@joshmalcom89
@joshmalcom89 Жыл бұрын
97..98 ish I think
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 Жыл бұрын
@@joshmalcom89 nope, it is about 93db. Its well known that klipsch Lie about their sensetivity.(something they dont need to) They have their own way measuring (in room db)
@Youthman
@Youthman Жыл бұрын
Even if the numbers are not 100% accurate, they are still have high sensitivity. I always have to increase the volume on my AVR when reviewing other speakers.
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 Жыл бұрын
@@Youthman yes, thats why i said that they dont have to Lie about their sensetivity;)
@SSJBen
@SSJBen 6 жыл бұрын
Why do Americans keep pronouncing decibel as de-ci-bul? It's pronounced de-ci-BELL ffs.
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 жыл бұрын
It’s likely due to having a “Southern Accent”. Thanks for watching
@yournightmare9999
@yournightmare9999 6 жыл бұрын
SSJBen It's simple bell 🔔 for bull 🐂
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio 3 ай бұрын
Klipsch doesn’t have anywhere near such sensitivity)) it hurts your ears)) svs shows the real value!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 ай бұрын
They measure around 3dB different than their claimed sensitivity which is still way higher than SVS sensitivity rating. They might hurt your ears but there are many who love and enjoy them. You have to find out what sounds best to you.
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio 3 ай бұрын
@@Youthman I’ll believe at 97 dB only if it’s about the range of a tweeter with a horn; the low frequency in the air with such a shift will not give 97 dB, this is from the realm of fantasy!))) The sound of this acoustics is unnatural, bright, to put it mildly, it’s not for everyone and for those who have problems with the correct perception of timbres...
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio 3 ай бұрын
@@Youthman 88dB of real is a very excellent indicator and is enough to get a high sound pressure when applying more power. It’s another matter if both manufacturers are lying and they both have inflated figures, then it will be bad. what I heard on KZbin, these svs play very well and do not have much curvature in the frequency response and reproduce the frequency range more or less truthfully
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 ай бұрын
The issue with KZbin demos is they provide no real value in how a speaker sounds. None. In the past I would sometimes provide them but it wasn’t because I believe they matter. Just simply trying to appease some that request audio demos.
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio
@Sergio83Hi-resAudio 3 ай бұрын
@@Youthman It’s clear that it doesn’t reliably give an idea of ​​the sound, but if it’s recorded well, it’s generally very informative. The main problem is that people record sound too poorly, and many listeners do not understand this and make their own assessments. when the sound becomes high-quality, you can understand what acoustics are like
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