Klon KTR vs Line 6 Minotaur from Helix and HX Stomp

[@JohanJoosLaur]

Oh my...the tone is gorgeous. The HX does an incredible job here, you'd have made it a blind test I'd have been so lost ahaha ! Awesome playing, as always...so versatile, your feel just blows me away everytime

[@loopie007]

Thank you. It's nice to know that the playing has 100% more to do with the tone as opposed to the pedal. I never thought of buying a Klon, but many times pondered a Klone. No more of that.

[@planzed463]

Your playing’s stunning man, sounds great!

[@aaronashear3002]

The Minotaur does a hell of a job keeping up!

[@johnnathancordy]

It's not bad is it!

[@SimonNackborn]

Incredible playing, as always.

[@selliantuttimusi6735]

Incredible playing and tones bro. Instant subscription!

[@christopherhansford6876]

Beautiful playing and tone with both pedals.

[@thomasmoore3822]

Sounds the same and really good. Thanks you. What is nice is you have the pedal so you can set them the same or fairly close. I just got the pod go and will give this a try. One thing I’m finding is that I don’t know how to set the pedals and just start turning knobs. But learning quickly which ones I like.

[@BobJones-bh9qz]

The stomp sounds great although I do prefer the ktr, it seems to be doing something in the upper mids and highs that the stomp is missing, at least in the low gain settings

[@ac8704]

What I have decided is that everything sounds great when you're playing it :)

[@jimmcdougall9973]

The differences are so minute, it’s not worth buying another pedal. The HX Stomp does an admirable job. I heard a rumour that you’ll be singing for us on Christmas Eve. Looking forward to it 😉

[@johnnathancordy]

What's dining for mean?

[@jimmcdougall9973]

@@johnnathancordy corrected

[@johnnathancordy]

@@jimmcdougall9973 well now I look silly. Change it back

[@jimmcdougall9973]

@@johnnathancordy 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 not a chance!

[@ashtonblack1604]

I do think the Klon sounds better, but the difference isn’t enough for me to buy one when my helix is so close. Plus, playing live nobody’s really going to notice the difference.

[@picksalot1]

Extremely close tones - Impressive. My new HX Stomp cost less than a new Klon KTR. I don't think the KTR sounds quite like a Centaur, or as good. That would be quite the test for the HX Stomp! I enjoy these types of comparisons, as it helps me appreciate how well incredible pedal tones can be dialed in on the Stomp. Thanks

[@jimamsden]

Great comparison. This lets us all have confidence that our Helix investment is going to get us close to the real tones, at least in a gigging situation. John, will you do something on Helix fuzzes - I've been trying to replicate the tones Jeff McErlain gets from that Jesse Davey King Tone silicone fuzz, but I'm not being that successful. I also use a Variax into VDI, so I can't rely on Auto impedance to tailor the tone.

[@MrElectricN8]

The sustain effect and tone transparency of a klon type pedal is the hardest to replicate. I use the hx stomp minotaur to boost my centura via fx loop. Stomp is so good. The amp feel is really there with the sag control always at 100.

[@lucadotti2928]

I've been considering getting a centura. All I use currently is a stomp... Could you explain how you use it "via fx loop"?

[@MrElectricN8]

​@@lucadotti2928 HX Stomp has an FX Loop block. So in your chain it may look like this Minotaur > FX Loop block > AMP > Reverb.

[@jackprice7828]

I actually like the Stomp version. It's a little more crunchy.

[@Nikkohh]

Thanks for this awesome comparison! Do you think you would have similar results if you were comparing the two going into a real amp? I just wonder if/how the A/D/D/A conversion from the stomp would effect the tone in that context. Cheers mate

[@johnnathancordy]

Yeh so that's what I reckon - in the video I mention this - a real amp I think is more sensitive to this kind of stuff - for instance into a modeller a Boss Sd1 and Sd1 waza basically sound very similar, into an amp the differences are more pronounced....so I reckon for sure there'd be more of a difference

[@davetube2ful]

they sound very close

[@palmortenlein3152]

Thanks against for lovely guitar playing🎸😊 I think they sound very similar, and the audience will not hear any difference.. Possible it will influence on the playing and feel,,,,But....??? Both sounds great👍

[@planzed463]

Interesting... I used line6 for years in a hybrid rig with Marshall & orange heads & cabs... returning to music 20yrs more later it’s all changed except that line6 still struggle getting those higher frequencies right. I have a boss now whereby it’s the other way around. Solution? Quad Cortex?

[@marcusfsproductions]

is the minotaur an effect that comes with the helix and hx stomp?

[@sfstoltenberg]

Yes.

[@mastermachetier5594]

Hey John. I was curious if you have ever messed with fuzz on the hx stomp. I can't get fuzz to sound right with my strat for some reason and would love you take.

[@johnnathancordy]

I'm not the most fuzz oriented player - I've found the ram's head pretty good?

[@TheMachDisk]

You make sure the fuzz block is at the front of the chain and tried playing with the impedance settings?

[@johnnathancordy]

Heres some stuff I've been experimenting with - explanation coming later kzbin.info/www/bejne/oouTe6Zres-Dipo

[@mastermachetier5594]

@@johnnathancordy awesome the lead stuff sounds really good ! Looking forward to the video explaining the tone

[@johnnathancordy]

@@mastermachetier5594 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXKVhpmAiZqtaa8 live now!

[@azzazelo]

I mean at this point the difference only matters to nerds and cork sniffers, too bad I'm a nerd cause I can't stop hearing small differences lol. There's like a million reasonably priced clones tho that sounds great. I like the digital drives in the box but digital drive plus tube amp doesn't do it for me. PS jealous of the awesome shirt

[@blackcatbarnyard584]

What amp/cab model are you using in hx stomp? Sounds amazing

[@johnnathancordy]

For the dry part or for the intro and outro?

[@blackcatbarnyard584]

@@johnnathancordy Sorry for the intro and outro. I'm not do much on completely dry. I like a little reverb!

[@johnnathancordy]

@@blackcatbarnyard584 same... So it's the Fullerton jump with the fullerton cab!

[@Deep_Jimpact]

Idk, people typically use the minotaur to symbolise the arrogance of man to the gods. or music, yeh.

[@Deep_Jimpact]

2 for 1, oh i thought the minotaur was just a smaller guitaur.

[@ringo1234567]

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