WARFRAME 2024 TIER LIST! | Get Your Popcorn Ready!

[@KnightmareFrame]

Tier List is shorter this year, no BS cutting to the chase. Enjoy, Rage, Hate whatever. Happy Holidays! -------------------------------- 00:00 - Opening 00:52 - How I will Rank 02:02 - Have Fun 02:14 - Rank Category 03:28 - Ash 03:53 - Atlas 04:24 - Banshee 05:24 - Baruuk 05:59 - Caliban 06:34 - Chroma 07:13 - Citrine 07:45 - Dagath 08:23 - Ember 08:33 - Equinox 09:00 - Excalibur 09:37 - Frost 10:15 - Gara 10:47 - Garuda 11:20 - Gauss 12:27 - Grendel 13:17 - Gyre 13:56 - Harrow 14:58 - Hildryn 16:02 - Hydroid 16:47 - TRASH 16:52 - Ivara 17:16 - Khora 18:17 - Kullervo 19:31 - Lavos 20:00 - Limbo 20:06 - Loki 20:39 - Mag 21:09 - Mesa 21:30 - Mirage 23:10 - Nekros 23:46 - Nezha 24:08 - Nidus 24:55 - Nova 25:25 - Nyx 25:45 - Oberon 25:51 - Octavia 26:23 - Protea 27:04 - Qorvex 27:37 - Revenant 28:03 - Rhino 28:22 - Saryn 28:39 - GLOOM 28:52 - Styanax 29:06 - Titania 29:45 - Trinity 30:34 - Valkyr 30:47 - Vauban 30:52 - Volt 31:53 - Voruna 32:40 - BOOTY 33:36 - Wukong 33:55 - Xaku 34:28 - K-Drive 34:57 - Zephyr 35:33 - Personal Choices 35:58 - If Helminth is Involved 36:46 - Conclusion

[@Turjan_Miir]

You know, there are people who love the BS Great list though.

[@Mr_Lenz]

Excal umbra was changed in the recent update I believe. I've been running him and haven't had issues with buff removal. there is a weird thing that happens where it glitches the screen for a second but the buffs stay

[@DirtbikeChampion150]

The baruuk one hurt

[@sunny-il5uq]

omg i just ask n u actualli delivereddd

[@JAXCZZ]

W SHIRT BLEACH ON TOP!!

[@_Dajuice_]

Styanax: Gives entire team free infinite energy and 10-20k overguard. "Eh C-tier hes alright." XD

[@SixthHeaven6]

I main nekros, Octavia, and wukong and to see nekros and wukong that low is literally just mental.

[@AsonoAwime]

With how many frames were put in lower tier because of needing armor strips, especially against Grineer, I am starting to think the issue is no longer with the frames, but with the enemies themselves. They are a core part of the game and an extremely prominent enemy throughout. If a single enemy type can shut down a majority of playstyles just by simply existing then I think it is about time we actually take a look at them and see if they are actually the problem and how they can be adjusted. Every time a frame is released without armor strip and older frames that still lack it, they are put in lower tiers of usability off that one aspect alone. Not the rest of their kit majority of the time. For the most part, instead of reworking each and every frame so they can actually do something in later parts of the games, what if we just rework the enemy that is causing all of the problems? I know everyone has issues with seeing their frame in lower tiers but honestly Knightmare is correct that they are ALL needing armor strips in some way to be usable against the higher level enemies, the main issue being Grineer. Going back, not meening to repeat myself but more of expand, a single enemy should not be dictating how you play the game that much. In any game it is problematic, but this one especially it is the worst. 55 frames in the game, all with unique playstyles and most of them are mid at best because of that one enemy type. Not to mention all the weapons that get thrown to the side because they can't burst through them.

[@firby7341]

i wanna add a thought or better question to your comment. there is one thing i never understood with warframe tierlists: it seems that those tierlists ignore the existence of other things in the game. while it was specifically mentioned that helminth would be ignored for placements, when you mentioned armor strip i instantly thought of the focus school (unairu? not good with remembering names) that can armor strip. if a frame lacks a certain thing, the game gives you options to compensate. if i feel like i need armor strip and the frame cant do it, i can choose a focus school that can. if i feel like i want to have a defensive option, there is vazarin, if i feel like i need energy restored there is zenurik. so why do warframe tierlists ignore the existence of schools to give what the frame itself lacks? its not like the lists care for early game when you dont have a focus school. so why cant we factor schools in when placing a unit? if the ONLY thing that makes a unit C instead of S is the lack of armor strip, then the unit should be S because you can always get armor strip from your focus school?

[@AsonoAwime]

@@firby7341 Honestly I think the main issue still comes back to, the frames should be able to play the game, everything else should be there to facilitate the playstyle. While one of the schools does have an armor strip, it still goes from, "Well I need this frame or ability to even play the game because of this one enemy type." to, "Well now I need this one school because of this one enemy type." The main issue still remains that some frames are just not really able to play the game anymore while others can. We have other tools to supplement that, but that's what they should be, optional tools to expand the build. Not necessities that are required to play the frame you want to play just to have fun. If we were to add in everything else to the mix it would become a build tierlist, not a frame tierlist.

[@nateb3454]

@@AsonoAwime issue with this is that you CAN use all the frames. all frames can reach level cap. Some frames just have an easier time doing so. If every frame were easy to use and nuked there wouldn’t be any variation or skill. Just cuz a frame “sucks” doesn’t mean they aren’t useable. You also have to remember that this tier list is subjective, just because some random KZbinr says something is bad or not a tier doesn’t mean you can’t use it. The reason builds are so good in this game is due to the fact that you can make even the worst weapons/frames godly. I’ve not ran into any frame where I feel “can’t play the game”. The enemies are fine honestly, if anything we can use more variety of enemy types to make the game more interesting and require more skill.

[@Raikos100]

If you water down to make things easy the game won't be challenging at all. Also different frames are good for different things. I still think reworks and buffs are better to level things. If we remove armor, the game will become irrelevant imo.

[@josmith4832]

And another thing about the enemies, these tier list are mostly about grineer and armor, what about the other factions and mission types? some frames really have it hard when it comes to fighting infested and corpus, like limbo for example he would have a problem with corpus nullifiers but he's great vs the other factions and gauss can't tank hits from some infested bcuz of that toxic damage, voruna can't attack pass a nullifier without risking getting hit, nullifiers can shoot khora and break her strangle dome etc etc, and those issues can be fixed with helminth and some weapons but those things are never mentioned, its just all about if a frame can 123 nuke that's S tier and if there ability makes a frame good the owner of that ability isn't good. Tier list are opinion based but it's always bias bs

[@2baby2rex]

What’s funny is that Inaros was the first warframe I got after starting and he carried me through the star chart. This was back when covert lethality was an instant kill, though. The man put me on his back and pocket-sanded the entire galaxy, so at least I got to experience good memories with him

[@Tentacl]

It was Nidus to me, my favorite by flavor reasons mostly, but the ability to group enemies is always great alongside great survivability.

[@Uthandol]

Covert change killed him. Now hes basically just a glob of health/armor with a shitty heal and shitty CC.

[@undeadinside3571]

Covert lethality was way too good. Makes sense they dont want something so easily killing level cap in 1 hit with a single mod. Condition overload nerf hurt too

[@2baby2rex]

@@undeadinside3571 Fr. It sucks cause I was gearing up to use it with the ash teleport augment, and as I was starting to get the plat for ash the nerf happened. Thinking of making something with that build today, for sorties or rando stuff

[@undeadinside3571]

@@2baby2rex melee crescendo is the new godly tool for ash. You can keep max combo count all mission

[@Phos9]

Khora is not a group Warframe. She makes killing enemies really obnoxious by stringing them up and leaving them hanging in the air, meaning that killing them is a huge pain. “Oh but Khora can just whip the dome and kill all the enemies in it” yeah that means Khora is the only one that gets to play, unless the other squad members like simulating the process of figuring out which bulb in a string of Christmas lights is burned out.

[@crabbywhales4227]

Fr I hate when I’m in defense and we have a khora who doesn’t whip the dome and leave the killing to me or my teammates.. it happens way too often

[@MrJarvisful]

This is to hilarious but true

[@noahedenborg4221]

Skill issue

[@brandon_yl_is_busted_af9316]

only scrub khoras do the net thing tbh all the nice ones use ensnare

[@dresean3725]

Those are just bad Khora's, then. I only use dome in very specific situations. Ensnare is broken af for gathering and makes her 1 do double damage

[@ronnyp8994]

This is the worst tier list I've ever seen, keep up the good work ❤

[@neonprimeneonboss542]

Agreed

[@jeremy.batista1491]

Aw did someone’s warframe get a bad tier

[@CollateralKaos]

​@jeremy.batista1491 more like 1/3rd of the warframes got entirely misplaced. Try to argue anybody that has ever actually used Rhino's kit that he belongs anywhere below A tier, I don't even like him much it's just been a fact of the game for years. Best damage buff ability in the game, one of the best survivability abilities in the game, the strongest CC ability in the game... all in one kit.

[@neonprimeneonboss542]

@@jeremy.batista1491 the fact that you don't see what's wrong with the tier list that he made and yet you're lookin for good warframes on the KZbin, then I'm pretty sure I already got hint on your intelligence and personality. Good day sir.

[@technoviking2415]

​@@CollateralKaosiron skin gets nuked in endurance fast

[@krazedzombies]

Man said Gyre was C tier because she has no innate armor strip, then ranked Harrow higher after literally saying he's unplayable in team comp and requires a tedious amount of prep for relevance 🤡

[@АлександрГоденов-ю2х]

Dude, Gyre has two bad abilities (1,2), while all 4 Harrow's abilities are useful. That's the reason

[@krazedzombies]

@@АлександрГоденов-ю2х lmao, Gyre's 1 is a zoning mechanic used to maximize uptime on her 3 and 4. Add enough range and she holds defense objectives on lockdown. Her 2 is probably the least useful, but that's really only because of nuke building being the "meta". At higher levels it's very useful for grouping large quantities of fodder to single out where the exitus units are. Harrow's problem isn't that his abilities are useless, it's that he's virtually impossible to play *effectively* with other players if nuking is the meta. Especially when you consider the amount of shit you have to do before you're even ready to actually support the team. Which, by the way, is the designed intention of Harrow. He's a support role, but DE has strayed from team relevancy, so characters like his aren't fun to play unless you give them a way to give over guard. Solo play is completely different, but that can be said for any frame. Run whoever you want solo, but don't get mad at the gyre for locking up enemies in stun animations and disentegrating everything you catch in your chains before you can lineup your precious headshot 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@rubencp93]

I finally understand why there's so much hatred around tier lists... Thank you.

[@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut]

Elaborate

[@kano_6]

its the truth man us og vets play enough to know more then new players only real players know the tiers to warframe so cry about it you dont know anything about this game fuck ya shitty frame also

[@garamari]

It sucks to be a Valkyr main. No matter how many times you instantly kill bosses or revive your team of MR 30 dorks who can't stay alive for 3 minutes you're still called D tier cause you can't sneeze on multiple enemies from 1000 miles away or something. I think most of you just hate Warframes if you have to push more than three buttons while using them.

[@josmith4832]

Lol this is really true

[@gramgram2716]

He put gauss in s tier and he is VERY active, the most active even and I agree with him. its just that valkyr's kit is pretty dated. A melee speed buff and a good exalted is not enough as there are several warframes that do it better than her and survivability has never really been an issue in warframe.

[@Sanctifyy]

Be honest, valkyr only has one good ability lmao

[@pendragon5744]

That is probably cause she is hindered by her kit that literally works backwards on her, bad stance and weird stats that does not help her in the slightest. The only thing that makes her remotely relevent is her 4th and it's ridiculous damage, but even that has something working against it as the drain is still requiring a stream of energy that can only be applied via energy orbs (or minis from Emergence Dissipate) or Energize. She is the literal definition of a dated warframe that needs a rework, not just to make her a more versatile frame but to also give her better flavor in an environment that that lets you annihilate groups of enemies from 1000 meters away and immortality at the press of a button. This comes from a once passionate Valkyr main of around 10 years I want her to be better, not "good enough".

[@V2ULTRAKill]

Valkyr is the one pushing less thsn 3 buttons Frames like Khora are more active than valkyr could ever hope to be

[@VultureXV]

_Lavos in D tier_ *Laughing alchemists.tga* Yes, hes absolutely awful, atrocious and hard to play. Please stay far, far away from him and leave everything to me. He's not very fun at all and I totally don't melt entire rooms with two buttons if not more while also applying debilitating status effects to everything which makes everything I do stronger. Status is horrible, always remember, _status is awful and you should stay away from it._ _why wont anyone make cosmetics for my boy?..._

[@jacobdery8856]

No need to take it too seriously, KMF is the kind of youtuber that puts Primed Sure Footed on Lavos

[@pancakemixwithblueberriesinit]

@@jacobdery8856 The kind of KZbinr to put Primed Sure Footed on Atlas

[@xiFlynn]

I felt like you were going to attack me through the screen. so passionate about ranking frames

[@will15243]

flynn when u gna upload again 😁

[@undeadinside3571]

Wow, over a year ago?

[@vukplanojevic2451]

Saw you streamed wispers recently. Didnt watch bc i didnt want to spoil it for myself. But if i may ask is this the return of the king? Or was it just for a stream to play the quest?

[@muriomoira]

- Starts a tierlist based on Best warframe's base kit. - gets to sevagoth. - points out the feature so strong almost every other warframes wants helminthed. - puts it below nyx. This is either bait or shitpost.

[@klp8136]

You completely missed the entire point that being that the only useful thing about sevagoth is the one thing every other frame can use, making sevagoth as a frame completely useless

[@josmith4832]

sevagoth is more useful than some of those A tier frames he mentioned and what's the point of making a tier list if its just about helminth? Bias list honestly, sevagoth can debuff enemies, make any weapon red crit, nuke rooms on any lvl 1 shot enemies on any lvl with shadow claws even on steel path and has great synergies with other helminth abilities, I've seen other tier list and ppl put him in B to S tier so this is just a bias list

[@lorkhan3488]

Both lol. He put Styanax in C tiers whan Styanax is a S tier.

[@muriomoira]

I didnt missed the point, I heard it and thought it was silly. Even if sevagoth ONLY had gloom, one of the best abilities in the game, it would still be better than Nyx... Which has... Nothing really. A nyx with gloom is a better nyx, in other words sevagoth's powers make nyx a better warframe.

[@durandal02]

@@muriomoira they skipped the first part of the video ig

[@JHClemmontine]

As - perhaps - one of the last Oberon mains...I play Oberon because I love raising an entire forest wherever I go. \o/ If I could, I would literally use my frame to turn the inside of a Grineer ship into an unyielding jungle - if I could. And yes, I built my Oberon for his second ability.

[@TheFlagnard2]

OG Ember was amazing. When they made her abilities fill up a bar and changed what the abilities do, she died for me.

[@retrospect6904]

Old ember wouldn't survive on the current damage system. If you time heat meter witg fire blast you can strip the entire room of armor couple that with a thermal sunder helminth and archon vitality..you can clear rooms efficiently. Most people make the mistake of rigging her with large amounts of power strength and expect to manage energy well.

[@hom-sha-bom]

Gara C is crazy. infinite scaling damage, can nuke the whole map, 90% DR, what else do you want?

[@sleepy_dreamr]

I was just thinking that. Yeah, you can lose your damage. But I don’t think it’s nearly bad enough to put her in C tier

[@indianerjoners1533]

As a Gara main, with a good Jaw Sword riven build and a helminth I'd say she's at least a B tier. But you really are locked into using her 1 and 4 over and over again, which may not be that fun compared to other frames.

[@nileshgardi1783]

Only one playstyle is more effective than Baruuk tho

[@mudkiptoons5569]

*sees chroma in chroma* *Remembers he can heal himself and allies, has insane armor and damage, can apply heat and cold, good for profit taker, is literally the steel path starter pack* NOT SAING HE DESERVES S TIER, but D tier is not where he sits😭

[@V2ULTRAKill]

His damage is literal shit tier

[@Jan02mf]

Reasons to never believe someone else's opinions

[@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut]

Elaborate

[@lordshaxx7727]

Lesson of the day…use who you like 😊

[@TheInksterr]

In all honesty, i fuck with this tierlist. Your reasoning are solid and you give a lot of valid points for each frame. Im not saying i totally agree with everything, I do have my own opinions of a few, but that's all personal preference and meme material for the most part. 10/10 vid as always mate, keep it up and I hope you had a good new year :]

[@jaeinoushryuk2743]

"There is one frame that hasn't moved from tier" Me: Saryn? You just said she hasn't moved from S tier since her release

[@sd6gaming367]

Yes saryn. Inaros wasn't always trash tier until people realized he was.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

​@@sd6gaming367to be fair Inaros was good once Then they nerfed his succ so it takes 30 years to succ one enemy Then the powercreep got so high that it takes 300 years

[@Kuldirongaze1]

Honestly, Hildryn is my new go to tank frame. She's immune to energy thieves (so annoying) and with corrosive projection and a few archon shards, she can full stripe armour in a single cast. The shield rework boosted her survivability in higher tier missions, same with adding taxon (or any companion that fills shields when empty), lastly Arcane Aegis, if you can afford it works wonders. Very braindead to play and I like that after a hard day's work.

[@patrickimperial579]

Hydroid climbing out of the low tiers really does put a smile on my face. The rework did him justice

[@Tarumarugan]

I pick warframes based on 1 of 3 criteria. 1) The aesthetic. 2) is it actually good/usable. 3) How hard did I have to grind to get it. 1) If there’s a frame that looks better than it plays, I’ll mod it to high hell just to make it viable and justify my decision. 2) A good frame is good. 3) If I played hours upon hours of redundant missions for rare prime parts or the strange resources in order to unlock a frame, I’m keeping it. Good, bad, ugly or useless, if it takes me a long time to get it, I’m liking it.

[@polok4149]

Same bro, same

[@spidtz]

Almost 180k views and only over 5k likes. How far the mighty have fallen. Only thing you should expect from someone who uses primed sure footed on their atlas prime

[@josmith4832]

Lol 😂

[@Rashid-sl4mg]

actual sand boy main here. The situation gotten so bad my wife would make a valid argument against him at this point.

[@KnightmareFrame]

damn, my guy

[@MauMenzori]

How can you main Inaros when he's got nothing going on? Grab yourself ahold of Revenant or Hildryn, as they are also Gigachad tanks and do much more than he does.

[@AndrewChicken]

I disagree with your Grendel ranking. Just because his helminth ability is busted with other frames doesn't mean he's bad. He has massive AOE armor stripping, scaling damage, powerful tanking abilities, and great self sustain with an incredible shield that's great at abusing shield gating with Brief Respite. Even if nourish is better on other frames, that doesn't mean Grendel himself isn't an incredibly capable frame in his own right. That said, enemies with over guard do hurt him hard, and it seems like those are far more abundant now than when he originally got reworked. I still think C is too low, B or even low A would be a better ranking imo.

[@imajoker6859]

Crazy seeing you here enjoy the content homie I also agree Grendel is really good now rework did him justice Also this comment section is quite the salt fest huh

[@1Meepman]

Harrow should at least be A tier. His warding thurible gives his team more energy than they will ever know what to do with, Condemn is an insane CC tool for landing headshots, and Covenant may as well be called: "Say hello to the crit cap." I do agree it can be frustrating for new players to play him because they won't have a good weapon yet, and also rotating his abilities can be daunting, but once he gets a good weapon, he can easily keep up with his team to give them 500-1000 energy a kill on top of his other utilities. I am also raising an eyebrow at Styanax being in C tier. He can not only give allies overguard, he can also give them shields and energy as well as strip armor and shields, self heal, vacuum mobs, gain crit chance based on how many shields he has, and do very respectable damage with his 4.

[@Radio_Active369]

A lot of my favorite frames got ranked pretty low here but I'm not mad, you make good points. I am returning to the game after a long time so I'm still figuring out some of the mechanics that are new to me, I had no idea you could swap out frame skills and I don't know what you mean by "hemlinth" but I enjoyed the video, thanks.

[@tristanweatherly4918]

hemlinth is the process in which you place other frames abilities onto other frames

[@TheOnceandFutureJake]

As a new player, it's really nice that you don't explain why the lowest tier frames are bad... 😒

[@jacksonm6969]

Hey if you are a new player dont watch this guy he doesnt know wtf he is talking about

[@aikidodude05]

this guy is a idiot and his list is bad at this point he has moved onto making terrible videos about first descendent. as a new player alot of what he says is bad is good. what he as actually rating it on is literally something your not likely to constantly be doing and as a new player your a long way from even being able to do it. Inarios is not trash and Caliban and banshee are not C tier they are trash. most of his c tier actually extremely good hell the put mirage as a c tier and I can tell you most actual rate her as A rank. most actuall frames tend to actually be in the A to b level with c and S being uncommon. this is because most frames are pretty much viable for every everything. if you want and actual tier video I recommend going to watch brozime tier list he breaks down thoughts on each frame and is for the most part fair.

[@fluffezic5183]

Yep. Because knightmareframe got bashed so hard these tier lists are just jokes now. Intentionally upsetting people for views

[@KesslerCOIL]

Styanax being C tier is absurd. Team shield, energy and overguard buffing, fast cast armor strip + self heal and a ton of strong slash procs while giving Overguard to the team... he's easily A tier, like if he was any better he'd be S tier.

[@KesslerCOIL]

A lot of the other placements I can kinda understand, but a LOT of C tier doesnt belong there and a lot of B tier either belongs one tier below or above.

[@KesslerCOIL]

Gara, Grendel, Titania, Mirage, Nidus, Styanax and Rhino all deserve to go up 1 or 2 tiers and it's not even hard to argue that. Idk how some of those frames are in D while CALIBAN is in C... like you seriously think Hildryn, Yareli and Chroma are worse than Caliban? you're high.

[@Frogjimin7878]

@@KesslerCOILkesslercoil #1 fact spitter

[@decompilerlite]

same with wisp in s , she cannt even do 10 % of stynax . hell , even tank is better supp that wisp

[@KesslerCOIL]

@@decompilerlite I can see the argument for S for Wisp but id personally place her in high A. Her easy access buffs are very strong, she's invisible if she just bunnyhops, can go fully invulnerable at the click of a button and frankly Breach Surge is kinda disgusting.

[@IDK_whatnam]

Counterpoint, excal umbra has a scarf

[@popcorn6808]

And the best skins you could buy definitely a S tier warframe ... for fashion

[@noahedenborg4221]

for him his scarf aint right

[@TaranFamilyTV]

I am a Octavia Main and have her running with Dispencer on her 2nd. With her build I have a huge aoe and its 36 secs between recasting her 1,2,4 abilities. I call this my give me a sec I brb build. lol. I am extremely lazy and mostly stand in one place and dance emote between casting. She was made for me and I love her. That being said, I LOVE your video and fully agree with your list. Please keep up the great work!! :)

[@Elijah-rz5mk]

Me but with wukong prime i pretty much let my twin handle my light weight 😂😂😩

[@treechenho]

Idk I’ve never thought of Lavos as a nuking Warframe. When you base him off just that, then yeah he's not a good one, especially in higher levels. I always thought of him as a comfort frame though. No energy to worry about, the ability to make any element/element combo at any time (meaning fire/corrosive armor strip, magnetic shield melting, and viral health deleting on demand), universal health and energy orbs/ammo mutation, lifesteal on his 1, and a decently high base armor. The guy doesn't even really need helminth either

[@Stormagedon2mald]

I thought he was just mastery fodder but after playing with him a bit he’s rapidly become one of my all time favorites. A really enjoyable play style with fun nuking potential that is more compelling than the alternatives imo.

[@leonardodenardi3884]

Sometimes when you go on a trip, the real pleasure can be found in the voyage itself, not only arriving at your destination. What was said at the end really matters, if you enjoy a warframe, keep playing it. Just keep an open mind about trying newer stuff every now and then. Always remember to have fun.

[@WraitFury]

I don't know why so many people are trolling this content. If people would pay attention; the ratings are based on their base kits. I love playing Hildryn, but I agree she is not fun with infested. Get a grip ppl.

[@Luxius1509]

geez ppl are so butthurt, I love Hildryn, she is my thicc mama, but indeed she's sucks against infested, her 4th is meh so I get the tier. Put Roar on Rev and he is a much better Rhino than Rhino, indeed he's boring to play because that's his whole point, a walking immortal gun dude

[@VestigialHeart13]

Would love to see a tier list where you rank enjoyability rather than meta. I'm curious where you would put everyone if SP didn't exist and you could just use whoever you wanted.

[@franklinfernandes5593]

I understand where you are coming from, but why make a tier list if all you want is a totally personal and subjective opinion Like how "fun" a frame is.

[@VestigialHeart13]

@@franklinfernandes5593 Just because he bases his builds around endgame SP and doesn't mention fun factor too much. He did here when talking about Gauss and it made me wonder what other frames he enjoys but can't really enjoy in SP. He's mentioned several times for example that it's possible to take Inaros to level cap but to my knowledge hasn't made a video about frames that he thinks are fun but potentially useless in endgame. Not everyone plays SP exclusively. He refers to Sevagoth as Gloom because he's mostly used as Helminth fodder and ranked him low but does that mean he's "boring" to play? People get riled up about rankings being subjective so I would like to see him throw out objectivity and admit he loves playing Yareli for fun when nobody's watching.

[@1unknown1er]

Putting Gara in C tier is insane.

[@vinceagashi1121]

I like how your 4 criteria simply just describes volt. I've mained volt since alpha. Still main him to this day. Theae says I use pillage and shock trooper. 352% strength and 250% duration. That's a lot of extra electric damage. Since the update that made it so you can pick up his shield with a primary I just use the amprex for the ultimate zappyboi fantasy....and it never gets old.

[@shiningamaterasu2579]

in the end use the frame you want, Most of our DMG comes from weapons anyway, Thats why I just run around with umbra

[@buritodripumaki5689]

Personally, i don't think limbo is that bad. He has a very high skill cap and requires a pretty specific build to work, but when he does, you just massacre hordes of enemies, while they helplessly try to damage you. I think he deserves a little more recognition

[@winterwraith8339]

Hes still pretty bad, especially if youre try to do all that with allies. Limbos kit just creates a big pile of clunky gameplay that he gives to his teammates. Playing with limbo on my team feels as good as playing with lag. Sometimes i can damage enemies, other times i can't. Solo i can make him serviceable as you say but its not at all entertaining. And thats the only real reward you get from playing different warframes so, it translates to high skill 0 reward. His abilities dont look cool so i start feeling like im playing a frame with no abilities. Limbos just got so much to work against him. He feels unloved

[@Yuiichiiro]

​@@winterwraith8339 I get it, Limbo might be part of those frames that are better off doing things solo. But I disagree, CC might not be as revolutionary as it was before but Limbo makes a good use of it and so much more, he's great for spy missions, defense missions that involve protecting an npc, and his energy economy is always top notch, indeed the eximus rework took a beat on him but it also did for every bloody warframes (matter of fact, as long as you're not in contact with the eximus's status, he can't hurt you). This tier list is just completely out of order, when you hear his reasoning it doesn't convince the warframe is bad, it actually convinces you that he knows jack nothing of what he's talking about. And how dare you call this distinguished gentleman abilities not looking cool?!!

[@winterwraith8339]

@@Yuiichiiro The stuff you mentioned is what i would i would assume everyone knows about limbo, just the word for it, is not great, its servicable. Just cause it gets the job done doesnt mean its great when frames do it better. Id only give him the crown for the defense mission with the walking npc, that missions is horrid. Outside of that, "great" is a bit of a reach

[@Yuiichiiro]

@@winterwraith8339 I'm going to beat you with the stick, we'll see who's serviceable

[@buritodripumaki5689]

@winterwraith8339 pretty true, but I'm not saying he is a great warframe. I'm just saying there are a lot of people out there who don't know his full capabilities and how to actually play him, which is honestly the games fault. Its pretty complicated. If you want to see for yourself, i recommend watching "how limbo became the most misunderstood warframe" by NovaUmbral. He also has some other great videos worth checking out. Anyway, as i was saying, limbo isn't great, but with the right setup and if you know how to use his 3rd 4th and 2nd ability efficently, you would be surprised by what he can achieve.

[@jameslune2096]

Something for all newbies to learn, 10 years ive been playing farmframe, never over invest, never get attached, the nerf hammer strikes sooner or later, the bigest outrage was bless trin, and they didnt back track ot, just get used to it

[@brandonbonds7120]

I still miss my OP Synoid Gammacor and Synoid Simulor

[@bigcos3825]

I personally think Zephyr sholuld be S tier. You press 3 and they basically can't kill you with projectiles, also enemies cant hit you with melee attacks bc you're always airborne. Her 2 and 4 are amazing crowd control tools that help spread damage SO MUCH, she's honestly unreal with stuff like Torid Incarnon. I'm honestly not a fan of replacing her 1, bc it's an amazing mobility tool while also helping you stay airborne proccing her passive if you just hold cast. She's honestly really good almost everywhere in the game bc of how versatile she feels to me. What's funny is that I never thought I'd have this much fun with such a simple kit like hers (she's also super easy to mod, just slap rolling guard for whenever the 3s cooldown ends, some range and equilibrium/efficiency and you're done), and it feels kinda crazy that she's still somewhat unpopular overall. Perhaps my biggest discovery in the game yet.

[@nbassasin8092]

its a well known fact how good Zephyr is and has been for almost 2 years now but she is A, her gameplay is incomarapble to the frames above her, and also she is one dimensional that one dimension is insanely strong, so A is deserving, but it is still limiting

[@Charlie_luv_UwU]

I haven't had the privilege of using her outside of duviri (she was insanely fun) but i would be worried about explosions or those stupid arc traps in sp

[@hamiltonent.gaming]

Everyone keeps talking about the nerf on wukong but hes my absolute best to this day

[@Infinity_Plus1]

loki in d tier is criminal he only needs a couple of mods to be basically invincible bc if you activate his invisibility the enemies wont attack bc you cant attack what you cant see and if you put mods like narrow minded, primed continuity, streamline and one of efficiency mod you can be invisible for 30+ seconds for less than 30 energy and you can get him really early on making him pretty good and it doesnt matter if a warframe can replace his 3 abilities with 1 ability bc his 4th ability disables the enemies guns forever making them use their melee weapons forever which basically no warframe can do.

[@jacobdery8856]

Ok, I do agree that Loki is affordable. But, one ability to become invisible should not be enough to make a Warframe powerful. It would just mean that he would survive as well as the other invincible warframe (which are plenty), but a good frame would bring more to the table. And... Apart from the invisibility, I could say the 4 is quite powerful on paper, but it doesn't really synergize that well with the rest of the kit. And we don't talk about the decoy and teleportation, they are now obsolete thanks to the helminth.

[@danielharrison5731]

Honestly I'm shocked Hildryn is in D tier. I know her pillar ability is best used on other frames, but she's awesome at steelpath. The blazing pillage archon vitality setup with her is devastating

[@xiaohuang3062]

She has good tank. But what about her damage output ability? And do the team really need that much amount of shield for tanking? Player can use a single augur mod to achieve shield gating. If the survivability isn’t an issue. What are Hildryn uses for?

[@riven4121]

@@xiaohuang3062 Snu snu.

[@xiaohuang3062]

@@riven4121 F epic.

[@jhondisjames2151]

@@xiaohuang3062 Hildryn does tons of damage with blazing pillage and is busted as fuck with chroma subsume on yellow. I feel like people just dont play her so they dont understand this lmao

[@danielharrison5731]

@@xiaohuang3062 like I said, blazing pillage. You don't even have to subsume roar, but when you do it is unreal amounts of brain dead damage. Go on any Gren mission, blazing pillage setup with archon vitality, watch them fall

[@alexgrimm8964]

HOW. DARE. YOU???

[@mikeD1234]

I haven’t started watching yet but I concur.

[@BrossKZ]

Yes how dare you my favorite frame!?

[@matta8566]

Sounds like we have found our first Inaros main

[@norvaksrotkiv2253]

DARE. YOU. HOW!

[@nicholaslowe2401]

Baruuk rating got me like:

[@wakeup1228]

just curious as to why nezha is only B tier this year as opposed to S tier from last year even though no changes were made to him

[@V2ULTRAKill]

The gamestate changed

[@swishboo7963]

Having Octavia in A tier just cause you think her play style is annoying is just biased she’s for sure S tier she’s pretty much untouchable if used correctly

[@Lexionoo]

i player her , but canno deny she is extremly boring to play .

[@swishboo7963]

@@Lexionoo fun is subjective and even than that don’t change the fact that she should be S tier she can nuke a map with just her 1 and your pretty much untouchable with the 3

[@MalumIudex]

Based on that logic then Limbo is also S tier.

[@noahedenborg4221]

nah she boring af but we know she strong

[@keithwagner6175]

Octavia is only good solo. she falls short in everything team based. her play style in solo is boring af. tbh I place her B tier since plenty of frames are just better.

[@troll5262]

The heck is the point of a tier list while ignoring a MASSIVE part of the game and how frames operate currently(Helminth). Should have ranked with base kit AND with meta helminth per frame with two different ratings at least.

[@Ravengm]

Hildryn has more uses than just a Pillagebot, she's also secretly a support frame. Slap on Voracioius Metastasis with low efficiency and your allies basically have infinite energy (restores 100+/sec for the duration). Haven gives your allies constant shield regen and maximum shieldgating. Pillage keeps your shields topped off so you never run out of "energy". It's a really satisfying playstyle if you're into support.

[@undeadinside3571]

Plus that same low efficiency build can full strip armor in 1 cast, so its an all in one build. Hildryn even got a buff recently with primed redirection

[@technoviking2415]

That's a Felmingham, not the actual frame

[@daveo2992]

Overall octavia has to be higher, they can do almost anything with her kit, on overworld missions where you have to stand beside the crates to capture them, her 1st skill can capture crates while you capture another crate with your war frame and i think you can tele out into operator and capture 3 crates at the same time

[@NeostormXLMAX]

Yeah i would argue saryn is just as boring

[@2tc222]

@@NeostormXLMAX but Octavia is easily one of the funnest and most unique frames if you’re good at making music 👍 most people aren’t creative enough and just put a spammy tune on or silence her volume because they know their songs are shit. But no shit that play style would be boring, it completely defeats the purpose of her kit and takes out the fun completely. Who wants to sit there with either a shitty ass song or a song with the volume off?? Creativity diff fs 💯

[@Sleviron]

Mirage is an easy S tier. Period. Wukong has 3 revives just from his passive, and his clone is op no matter what anyone says. It's easily capable of one shotting end game enemies without a problem

[@noahedenborg4221]

ok proof

[@1norwood1]

I like Mirage but nowadays I play Xaku in the role I used to use Mirage for i.e buff my damage and shoot things really good.

[@bigscaryman7421]

yes, but you don't need revives if you just play Revenant or any tank for that matter or Shield Gate, or even just play in a squad.

[@celphalonred1999]

Hydroid prime went from the worst to practically the best for general use. Love it

[@undeadinside3571]

His transfered is also insanely good on zephyr or qorvex with the augment. Mainly zephyr

[@Rickie26k]

Gloom? Gloom. Gloom! Not on my Mag though, GLOOM, but it's a gloom ability. Besides gloom I think we are of gloom agreement.

[@crystrash]

I seriously don't understand how Misa could end up in A-tier and Titania ended up not even B, but C It's just absurd, considering her good DD potential I've played a very large number of hours on Titania in my time. And all the people who spoke badly of her didn't even understand how to build for her

[@avocadoarms]

If a frame is so commonly misunderstood then perhaps, even if she has the potential to be strong, she's designed poorly.

[@crystrash]

@@avocadoarms This warframe has defense against any status with the 1st ability The 2nd ability grants damage reduction to any ally by 50%, regardless of the type of incoming damage. The buff lasts for 2 minutes. Fixed zone, only energy efficiency can be adjusted The third ability is usually replaced by Helmite with Nourish or another ability - Nourish provides good energy sustain and viral damage The fourth ability is already well known to everyone, but its basis is a secondary weapon - It is possible to combine elemental damage: radiation, fire, corrosion, virus + physical damage types - The problem of magazine capacity is solved by Arcane Pistoleer and Seeker mod To summarize, it's definitely not C rank. Possibly as in the case of Saitama, I guess

[@winterwraith8339]

​@crystrash like pablo said "no one reads" lol. Titania requires a bit too much brain power for people to care to understand, AND its ALL for rewards that arent significant. Thats the bad design. 50 damage reduction in a game where no 1 is dying often? Thats like using an umbrella for the rain when youre completely dry inside of a house. Same thing with the status immunity. 4th is a secondary weapon. Nough said. 3rd is subsumed over so thats a joke. 0 usefulness. Shes our fastest warframe tho i might add, so she useful for jokes and pick ups

[@Yuiichiiro]

​@@winterwraith8339 "no one is drying often" say that to the sp random gunner who's sneezing on you. You got beef with secondary weapons when leatum's booming every mission imaginable. And her third being bad is actually convenient since you have less thinking to do (favourite warframe players sentence) when replacing a lacking ability on her.

[@winterwraith8339]

@@Yuiichiiro man... did you just try to scare me... with a SP heavy gunner???... Cause we got a STEEP power level difference if that was the first thing to come to your head as any kind of threat. Gotta work on your builds before saying some stuff like that man... I said its just a secondary weapon, not secondary weapons are bad. "Since you have less thinking to do" thats a pro for very specific people for sure lol. I dont find thinking about replacing 1 of 4 great abilities as negative, its fun cause no matter what i pick the build is still good and offers different playstyles if i choose to replace something else. Unlike with having a bad ability, subsuming anything other than it will cut the frames potential down, making it more boring. Far less variety

[@1norwood1]

Oberon is my most played warframe Hunter Adrenalin + renew carried me through the starchart as a new player. I pretty much played this frame exclusively for a long time. Kind of lost out to Nezha and Wukong as the Frame to play when you want to not die.

[@madpsychoo.o9602]

I'll never understand why people will click on a tierlist video and expect the creator to match their opinion in every regard and then go ahead and hate on him But seeing some 50 hours Randy trying to tell him how the game works will never not be funny

[@tehb357]

I'd think Titania would be higher, I'd say A, but at least B. Her mobility is second to none in a game of mostly tight corridors and turns everywhere. She can remove status effects from herself and teammates, has great evasion, her Dex Pixia slaps, and with the new radiation mod I'd argue Diwata no longer sucks either, or at least I've yet to have any issue wiping SP/Circuit enemies with it. Definitely benefits from Helminth and archon shards though.

[@dominicchirayath4681]

Sad to see Baruuk get relegated to what feels like nothing, sure he may be my main go to frame but that's cause I find his kit actually fun to use except for ellude we don't talk about that one.

[@TiathaLeucomien]

Don't be sad, it's just someone's tierlist ^^ From who don't know and couldn't reach to Baruuk's capacity...

[@sambrock9279]

This guy actually has terrible game knowledge don’t listen to him please

[@dominicchirayath4681]

@@sambrock9279 I could tell from how he worded certain things about frames, especially since most of the frames he put in C tier were ya know, DPS and good too

[@_Sky_Rox_]

I love it how he discarded most of warframes for being good at only one thing (which isn't room clearing) but when he got to Revenant he's brain goes "big tank=S tier" Edit: P.S. if anyone wants to visit a circus for free open replies of this comment

[@standingsalt]

​@hawkens022I don't think good weapons platform really affected his ranking buddy

[@standingsalt]

​@hawkens022 also other frames can act as much better weapons platforms or the other frames that can also become immortal i.e hildryn ,lavos, chroma, any other tanks frames even the squishys

[@standingsalt]

​@hawkens022 not to mention that tanking damage isn't good in warframe as the main way to really scald up and be good is through damage in a area you may be immortal but so are the level 9999 enemys

[@spidtz]

@@standingsalt yeah but who other than elitists lacks a brain or has the patience to get to level cap

[@CollateralKaos]

@hawkens022 their points were bad, but revenant is not a special case. There are frames who can tank more than serviceably while also having a better kit than Rev. The way he discarded other frames for being not good at everything and then put revenant (who is just a 1 trick pony, there are MUCH better weapons platforms and MUCH better CC frames, and several of each) instantly in S is a problem. Revenant deserves A tier, questionably S tier, but he doesn't deserve it if so many other frames who are much better all around, and other focused niche frames like rev got sent below B tier. Rev is great, but he ain't better as an all-rounder than numerous other frames.

[@TheBepsiBoy]

Stynax being in C tier is wack. Unlimited overshields for the team and yourself, high over guard for yourself and the team. Complete armor strip, and crowd control. Like how is that C tier?

[@Sunny-gm5wp]

But realistically high level that overguard is pointless and can be overwhelmed by enemies and easily removed shield

[@TheBepsiBoy]

@@Sunny-gm5wp never had that issue within steel path. Rally point can just constantly be activated as it regenerates energy as well. This never losing shields. As long as you can kill. 45k over guard is plenty, at least for my play style. With that being said, energy is a must forsure, but again, rally point is the go to for unlimited energy

[@snyperlife2941]

He said without helminth or AUGMENTS. How are you infinitely stacking OG without the augment

[@lorkhan3488]

Still, Styanax without helminth is A tiers. This list just prouves he doesnt give a shit. And just to remind, Styanax with his augment doesnt need to kill to get overguard, he needs to touch mobs with the spears. So 1 ennemie can give you a lot of overshield. It did solo the new murmure boss in Steel path and 60eyes with a Styanax. So his is S tiers. End of story lol

[@TheBepsiBoy]

@@lorkhan3488 summed up pretty well.

[@Swordmaster757]

Good tier list. I'm just playing some again after a long time. I'm an Ivara main. Based on your criteria, I understand why she's placed as C. Personally, I rank her higher, but I also enjoy her slower, more methodical playstyle... although she desperately needs a speed boost. I do use her for spy successfully. Other frames can do it faster, but for me, she does it safer. For a relaxed style of play, she's very good.

[@IIRainOverDawnII]

Have been maining Oberon for a REALLY long damn time. I know he isn't busted or whatever and that he is quite damn outdated but I just can't let go off the goat man and his aesthetic and shit.

[@Sirkingx]

I agree with all but Nezha. The increase damage taken debuff is crazy strong that helps the whole team. Unkillable halo ward that scales infinitely. Super fast. Teleport. CC. Complete status immunity. Can remove team mates status debuffs. Health and Energy orb drops on demand. Good for literally any mission type. Was always in S tear in all your tier lists last couple years. Nothings changed about it. So I dont see why it dropped. Great list! They really made so many changes this year didnt they! It's crazy. Cant wait to see what they do next.

[@GeoDaGhst]

Literally on the same page as u, I am literally gliding(pun intended) through everything the game is throwing at me with nezha.. idk maybe his taste just changed a bit, awesome vid still.

[@terrylee2524]

I love Wisp she is amazing support and attack frame just all round perfection, I have helped so many players beat events and Steel path missions with this frame and now she has a prime version with her unique set of personalised weapons... S tier definitely!

[@felix_patriot]

rhino’s stomp puts a 98% slow on even over-guarded enemies, and many bosses, without requiring line if sight, so it’s the best CC in the game and mandatory for level cap circuit defence. un-diminished roar is also the strongest team buff in the entire game. and between his new over-guard gate and his 4th augment buff making it a % iron skin heal, he is equally as unkillable as revenant as long as you have the energy for an iron skin recast (nourish over his 1 is plenty, and combined with undiminished roar makes him a pretty crazy weapon platform).

[@umbralgaming3443]

I agree with you man, this guy puts primed sure footed on atlas even though that guy is known for punching in grounded gameplay

[@imajoker6859]

Honestly I would go as far and say that rhino is better than revenant Revenants 1 3 4 are kinda useless compared to rhino having 3 good abilities along with rhino becoming infinitely more tanky as a mission gets harder

[@nileshgardi1783]

​@@imajoker6859bro which copium are u on? Gimme some of that

[@imajoker6859]

@@nileshgardi1783 you must be crazy or don’t use rhino with his 4 augment

[@Gkgfury1]

Revenant one shots as rhino does not. Both tank and both cc. Revenant just better

[@garouikari3699]

i am that oberon that suddenly shows up in a squad. i love my nature boy so much

[@frolicmisanthrope]

Broberons unite, we will get a buff someday :D

[@cruz_rossi99]

Octavia may not be great too play but she is def S tier

[@angeltensey]

she is simple, but annoying to use frame. A+ for sure, but not S

[@proto_shane5059]

Caliban is apparantly better than hildryn in this guy's opinion, gg

[@TheRadioDemon0101]

[@zach942]

gauss main here, almost made me cry here seing my boi be the first s tier

[@texttwenty-nine1627]

Great to see Hydroid get the love he needs! I had alot of fun maining him my last session. RIP Puddle prime. Hello King Kraken.

[@jojoboynat]

You know what is hilarious to me? It is that people need to be reminded that the main goal of their game is to have fun. People are craving validation with these tier lists 😂 Great video as always man

[@jormungandr4690]

Fun is not objective, but numbers and abilities are.

[@jojoboynat]

@jormungandr4690 Yes, true. But that has nothing to do with what I am saying. If you play video games as a hobby and for fun, just do whatever makes you have fun. Basically don't get mad if someone tells you your warframe is bad or not meta. If you have fun with it and that is your goal, then just keep at it. My comment was not really aimed at this particular video, but just at the fact that people get pissed at tier lists because they take it personally. As if the way they play defines them in some way haha. Just fucking have fun

[@nbassasin8092]

you are 100% right, but it makes for a good content seeing people cry and take their favourite frames rankings personal

[@jojoboynat]

@@nbassasin8092 hahaha ! I guess... and his vidéos are good so... worth it

[@daviddunn223]

You should do a fun factor tier. The stat that matters to me the most.

[@jackfalcone4393]

learned max range limbo is a beautiful thing on the new mirror defense despite public distain for him

[@zsedforty]

U_U Getting absolutely roasted on Reddit, But I came to judge and found some SERIOUSLY rational takes! I'm pleasantly surprised! Glad I watched and listened!

[@blackdragonx715]

I started the game because of voruna. Grinded it out and finally got her. Most fun I’ve had. Became my main after Excalibur.

[@xelionmarvel]

Voruna is a crazy powerful frame, one of my favorite for level cap disruption.

[@soundaholixx]

Returning player from 2018 on nintendo switch with new account merger. I have always been a FAITHFUL PREACHER of Mag. Early game, mid game, late game, endgame. It's just incredibly comfy to play, you have anti shield, disarm, armor strip, stun, projectile redirect, resource pulling magnetism. I had gotten a Vectis Prime way back when, and i invested my initial 50 plat + scraps to get myself Mag Prime. Im now in Eris still rocking that, investing in Perrin Sequence to really get Mag her best abilities.

[@CTNinja-1]

Agreed on everything except volt ranking, should easily be s tier, meta or super useful in 90% of the game content.

[@user-kx9in5zq8d]

Nobody : We are ranking warframes on how strong they are it's not about your favorite. Octavia A tier why? She is boring Bro dont know what the word strong means

[@loopgru]

By and large I agree, but on Hildryn, you forgot Blazing Pillage, which lets Pillage work on anything regardless of shields. She blends infested just as well as any other faction. So at that point you have a frame that does solid damage in an AOE, strips armor and shields, dramatically increases her squad's survivability, and has a mediocre exalted and a top tier helminth slot. She ought to be higher than D- I'd argue she's better than Harrow or Trinity, but YMMV.

[@daviluiz6789]

I still have hope that Valk and Oberon will get some buff or rework

[@andreusemanuel4868]

Ah, the feeling of seeing almost my entire roster of favorite frames in D tier 😅😅

[@undeadinside3571]

Hildryn doesnt belong there. B at worst

[@blacksec_hakor1900]

I’ve played vauban for a really long time and I think he deserves at least B tier. He’s a CC menace and he has decent enough survivability due to his pretty decent base stats. I’ll admit his photon strike really needs to be changed to something else and his Tesla balls need to be put on a leash but overall he’s pretty good. Also some subsumed ability work incredibly well with his kit, like the ability you get from gyre. It’s pretty much a cheaper version of his black hole but with more damage. His bastille also has build in armor strip and his puncture nades scale off of enemies levels which means close to nothing in steel path but none the less he is still pretty good. As for his vector pad and trap grenade we don’t talk about those. His overdriver is just free ability strength for everyone. His Tesla balls need to be added as a teammate or a ally though because certain things don’t effect or buff them which is horrible. And his photon strike needs to be literally anything else, I think it would be cool to have it be like shoulder mounted cannon that does pretty much the same thing it does now but targets enemies you target with your guns. Damage would scale on strength and duration would effect the fire rate as well as reload/ cool down speed before the next round is fired and reach would determine whether or not it’s a shotgun type, sniper, or rifle variant. Also sadly he doesn’t receive buffs for his puncture nades or Tesla balls from just about anything. I tried nourish and it doesn’t buff either and roar doesn’t effect them either from what I know. That’s pretty much my two cents for vauban at least, everyone’s a critic and all that. I get why you put him where he is but I still think he deserves at least B.

[@ap3x581]

Yeah last year was A for him iirc, mainly his problems are how CC became less effective and how he doesn’t have anything to directly buff his survivability outside of CC (and maybe that Bastille armour buff but he’s not an armor frame and even if he was it doesn’t scale well).

[@vinidveryou7766]

As someone who mains Vauban I know the struggle, but I do not think Vauban lacks anything. Personally I go max range + duration + efficiency build, on low Ability Strength, just for CC. His Tesla Nervos, 1st ability, is amazing to proc Archon Stretch, so it is great to have for energy regen and minimal CC. Second ability is great with variety it offers, especially that you can have 4x trap ice, 4x trap mine, 4x trap amp (I forgot the names) and they each stand on for about 1min. Additionally I use helminth ability on 3rd skill always which I replace with better skills for survival, my fav for camping is Mirror Images which just float around and make enemies shoot them instead of you. Ofc Bastille spam is amazing and you can place multiple on top of another making enemies to fly faster to the black hole epicenter and lose more health. I love to make giant meatballs of enemies around my bastille, cover in mirror images and place mines under them. Basically doing whole game - just need to be careful for potential eximuses and disruptors. And can easily be used anywhere.

[@woljunihah654]

This KZbinr is a live adaptation of THeMooN85

[@MartinMartinez-ro1mi]

So new player here. Should I just not be watching this guy for his opinion because a lot of people seem to disagree with his list as well as his attitude

[@ANGELofSHADW]

Nah, hes an end game player with confident opinions. Some people take this the wrong way and call it toxic, just because inaros is bad and he is your favourite doesn't make KMF any less correct when he points it out. At the end of this video he rightfully says "play what you have fun with". The list is just for content sake and to maybe guide people who are brand new to who the best of the best are.

[@fluffezic5183]

Lets just say that every sing other content creator had called him a r*tard because he just looks at stats and has never played any frame he didn't put in S tier

[@camilorodriguez2918]

Just play the game the way that you want yo play ot, with the frames a weapons you wanna play with, don't listen to anybody

[@mofaklar]

He's ranking power. It doesn't mean you can't do a lot with lower ranked frames. Doesn't mean they are nor fun. They just don't have good kits, bring anything unique or don't scale well. Some activities really need decent ranked frames. Inaros has a lot of fans, but his kit doesn't do anything. He just has a ton of hp. You can do a lot with just hp. The things he has to mitigate dmg, others have better. A lot of the bad frames are older, they were great in very specific fights or in original starchart. People invested. He's pretty much right about everything.

[@Mark-nu3us]

Offended... You think people don't like playing Octavia?! She's my favorite frame... When she first came out I HATED her, but once I used her, I fell in love... She does everything. She is literally THE jack-of-all-trades warframe... Also, just spam shift a few times every 30ish seconds... Or don't and just use your slide, it's literally required to bulletjump... So yeah... Who, besides Wukong is better than Ivara at spy missions?? She's invis, can't trip alarms, but slow, that's perfect for spy missions...

[@bluecode2697]

this comment is so contradicting..

[@bluecode2697]

I understand you hated her when she came out but now she's your favorite but you're offended because he thinks people don't like playing her, it's so contradicting

[@Mark-nu3us]

@@bluecode2697 Offended that she's not S tier. IMO, she's one of the best frames. When she came out, she was different than now. It's not contradictory, you just don't have all the info.

[@bluecode2697]

@@Mark-nu3us fair

[@sweeecron2997]

Rhino should b higher cc 4 enemies can’t do anything u can get iron skin health back with augment. Roar- self explanatory. Iron skin-tank with investment. Charge is trash but that’s the helminth slot. You can add nourish and then u have the two best weapon buffers in the game. Atleast B tier. Even without helminth you have universal damage buff cc and tanking

[@Paocean17]

Love the Zephyr, Garuda and Mag appreciation 🗣

[@RhomasTotevenaar]

There are ways to get light levels up for mirage by using cosmetics. Fashion frame is endgame

[@GoddessCynthia]

Sevagoth is def at least B tier imo. He's a very competent and fun to play melee warframe. Also I feel like hildryn is pretty good with blazing pillage and strength. Doesn't exactly need Roar to excel from what i've seen.

[@chungo2548]

He's very good but people act like forma is a limited resource that must not be used ever, so he isn't given a chance cause he needs a lot

[@maolcogi]

Been gone for years, my favorites when I left were Mesa (Prime came out around the time I played last) and Gauss, who I think was also pretty new. Glad to see they're doing well. I can play Gauss for fun, and Mesa Prime with my ridiculous aimbot loadout to play while half asleep! XD

[@GrrumpyPants]

I feel like this tier list is a lot better than last time, personally I'd include helminths though when placing frames. The helminth has been out for a while, having access to certain helminth abilities is not really much harder than having access to rare mods or archon shards (emerald archon shards for saryn). Being locked into a specific helminth choice could be looked at as a negative compared to frames that can explore multiple helminth options to expand their kit. Styanax with nourish is fantastic, but nourish styanax is one build. Revenant can be run with almost anything. With the addition of precision intensify as a mod I've managed to make pillage revenant that hits 328 strength with overextended equipped for more range. Yareli has possibly the worst helminth options, since none of them can be cast while on merulina.

[@tonysmith9905]

Honestly? It's probably for time. He doesn't even go that in depth on the frames here and some of them are legit "here's me putting it in this tier" and that's it. Video was still nearly 40 mins.

[@johankaruyan5536]

Bruh if u use helminth then it's not even a frame tier list anymore it's just a build tier list

[@firby7341]

im still mad about the official reason why yareli cant cast other frames' abilities on merulina

[@ap3x581]

Yeah adding Helminth doesn’t exactly make much sense. It’s like: this frame is excellent, but ONLY if they’re using another frame’s ability. Especially when the main way to judge frames is their abilities it doesn’t seem fair or rational to consider those of other frames

[@Drakhesh]

"Lavos requires so much setup to nuke!" The setup: Cedo alt fire

[@alastair5569]

true but that's more saying that lavos is highly dependant on cedo and needs buffs to be played without it, even tho lavos's weapon working well with his kit is a big W in game design

[@SquishyBunny888]

So good to see Citrine, Wisp and Voruna so high on the list. My favorites for sure

[@lionard3281]

People should always be prioritizing who they have the most fun playing as over whatever the meta is. I would much rather play my off meta Titania than use the same, boring copy pasted Revenant kit everybody else uses.

[@Battingcox]

Especially true when even the bottom tier frames can still do literally all content without issue if they just play and build them right.

[@ghostguy7]

Nezha with roar is prob my most used frame. Damage buff and very hard to kill. High strength with a bit of duration. *chefs kiss*

[@Revie_Sn02]

is helminthless

[@johankaruyan5536]

Idk I think they nerfed him cus he's not "immortal" for me

[@Revie_Sn02]

@@johankaruyan5536 no one said inmortal

[@johankaruyan5536]

@@Revie_Sn02 that's what people used to say nezha was

[@Revie_Sn02]

@@johankaruyan5536 she was

[@Mant1s_Toboggan_MD]

I recommend revisting Rhino. Being able to slot Nourish (or another dmg buff) while having the strong version of Roar makes him a great weapons platform and stomp is one of, if not the best CCs in the game. Use Reinforcing Stomp to refresh his Iron Skin and ignore building for armor. Steel Path enemies do enough damage that Rolling Guard into a group gives enemies plenty of time to start blasting you. And you don't need PSF, so you can give him a much needed movement mod in the Exilus slot. Gyre is another I'd bump up, but that's probably more my bias towards seeing my abilities red critting all over the place.

[@Hey_Im_JJ]

This list is based on the Warframe's base kit which is why Rhino is so much lower. When it comes to base kits (or even with helminth IMO), Revenant is just the better tank in every way.

[@OmnomAnomaly]

As much as I hate playing Octavia but she is the most op frame in the game. Easily S tier.

[@ap3x581]

Fs she’s the best frame in the game in terms of kit but she’s really boring. It’s S tier with an asterisk

[@Croncho-dj4ly]

i agree but i dont agree, she is crazy strong but as the guy above me said, she is really really boring, i think A its where she needs to be, very very close to S

[@OmnomAnomaly]

@@Croncho-dj4ly she’s boring but so is Saryn and wisp. They are so Op you can just stand there and kill everything and never die…

[@Croncho-dj4ly]

@@OmnomAnomaly nah wisp is not boring and saryn is kinda boring sometimes but she is crazy strong, just as octavia

[@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut]

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