F2P: Why Tier 5 is Better Than VIP 14 | Rise of Kingdoms

Free To Play Player from K: 1343 with reasons why you should unlock Tier 5 before VIP 14 as an F2P player.
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[@itzcarnage2994]

T5 is all good until u see the hospital bill hahahaha

[@burningthecandleatbothends1658]

there is no hospital bill when you join a rally

[@Anthony-so4go]

Multifarms is the Only answer lol

[@elijahshabazz2162]

Hostpital is serious im vip 15 glad my speed ups are down lol

[@gondarkece2254]

@@burningthecandleatbothends1658 not always ..bcs rallly can be swarm or be counter

[@alfianhafidzin7641]

This is the real F2P

[@whoslojs8164]

Every f2p should be watching you and them subscribing love the consistency!!

[@alexanderliu2227]

The 12inchpvpness gets me every time even though it’s only been like two videos

[@wahbodeathstrike9636]

Did someone told you that ur a very good speaker, very glad that I find u in this stage of my life as 30m power play I didn't now what to focus on, but now my goal is to get t5, thank u buddy 🙏🏿❤️❤️❤️

[@sufyanabdulrahman7673]

Thanks buddy you are really giving us hope man love you bruh❤️

[@danger6081]

Nice explanation! I liked and subscribed.

[@shafikmaher1889]

Best F2P to learn from, getting great rank in mge cause of that guy and his help,always responds on discord or instagram or twitch generally wherever you can follow him

[@kevinstaedler]

Finally i found a channel with a guy who knows what we need to know

[@telstales8976]

I can’t wait to be a mere 30m power player 😆 I’m currently half that on 220 days VIP 9 😩..I’ve made a fair few mistakes admittedly (didn’t realise this game was gonna consume my life 😂) ..I will iron out the mistakes eventually. You’ve got some real commitment to get where you have F2P in the time you’ve done it. Love your content dude keep it up 👏

[@johncane2304]

What's your power now?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Really interesting discussion, great video man. Another thing I would mention is that as you're pushing T5, you're going to naturally get VIP from your alliance members making purchases. Those free VIP points are essentially gems when looking at it from that perspective, so you're saving a lot of gems by pushing T5 first (assuming your alliance is active, makes purchases, etc.)

[@OmniarchOfficial]

12inchpvpness ah yeah that’s very true, good point

[@Anthony-so4go]

Oh those sweet 2000 ViP points drops wich basically 2000 gems of value 😍

[@ghazalimoh6221]

Love you man ,you given me hope

[@davidb5205]

_is barely a T5 player for one week_ *Title:* "T5 is the greatest and why you're a filthy casual if you don't have them."

[@hellboy1413]

Hahaha T5 is better

[@Jjenkin1988]

Agree you need to sort your KZbin name out.

[@TheDaoistheway]

Hi I learned about you from sinchi42, and I love your videos cause you post the stuff that’s different than big name like Rhony and chisgule

[@FaizanKhan-jb1re]

Thanks for the video bro. I am at Vip 2 right now and was thinking about this exact thing and then I saw your video. Good companion you did there I am glad I didn't waste my gems on Vip 14. Definitely gonna upgrade castle first before going VIP 14 now 👍

[@Markandism]

Upgrading to VIP14 fast is definitively better, because it takes more time to max commanders than to unlock T5

[@DDKKAY]

@@Markandism I have to pay 100000 gems on castle to upgrade from level 21 to level 25. I AM at VIP12 but 400000 points, so I need 100000 Gems to go VIP13. And later to VIP14 . If I get 500VIP points daily, I will need 200 days to take 100000 VIP points , so by paying gems I will arrive VIP14 in 200 days before so I makes only 200 Golden Sculptures. So the choice is : do you want T5 or 200 Golden Sculptures...?

[@tyrtheteutonic1345]

@@DDKKAY t5 every single time

[@NIKK9]

Wow really awesome video Really appreciate bro Thank you Best journey guild 🥳🥳🥳

[@francisgamingyt9290]

Nice content bro 👌

[@michaeltrinh4394]

I like the point made about fully upgraded buildings

[@aoxgam3r274]

Finally a youtuber who is F2P like me

[@luisolvera2973]

Finally someone that truly understands ftp

[@you9765]

Northing to say well said🤯👌

[@smgamer3775]

can u tell how to get the kvk honor roll skins as a f2p?

[@mobiggcro]

I respect from where you are coming from and you made some good points but i disagree with you . Power gives respect that’s true ... whoever power becomes a liability when you don’t have the kills/ deaths to back it up . I am in a fighter alliance where respect is given to fighters not power players . What are you with a player thats 50 million power if he doesn’t fight in kvk . i got my props for being a fighter and having 1.5 million t5 kills as 20 million power player in kvk1 . Individually going for t5 is great but kingdomwise you have to look at whats in the best interest of your kingdom ... if you take top 300 seat in your kingdom you have to be someone who is a warrior because matchmaking is set according to your top 300 players power lever.. and for f2p to fight with t5 on open field consistently is really difficult if you don’t have the comms to back it up .. if i see a t5 player on the field with half baked comms .. thats barbecue chicken 🍗 . I choose the vip14 road because i saw how effective i was for my kingdom on the open field supporting my t5 players because i had max commanders that did big damage on my opponent . What’s more attractive to a kingdom a 30 million player with 40 million kills ( mainly t4 and t5 ) or a 50 million player with 30 million kills (with low t5 kills ) .

[@Markandism]

I completely agree with you

[@Anthony-so4go]

A player with millions of deads cause that is what really secures your victory in KvK and not just field/farm/afk kills bruh?) 🥃

[@williamang9649]

I purposely hinder my progress to t5 and there's a 70,000,000 power guy who's genuinely afraid of dead troops and boastful when there's something involve a rally you'll see excuses and run off how about that and he is t5 in a sense I have to fight a guy in his stead when I'm fighting my copy already

[@williamang9649]

I hinder my progress because I'm not sure if making t5 to joim rally (not in aoo) is sure good but expensive to make....

[@silvervirio3642]

I know this video is really old, i am new player should i use my gem to speed up my town hall?

[@300iqbaguette6]

Is there coming New content? Would like to see some updates

[@markmendoza2200]

Very inspiring got limit on my economics tech at academiy 24 now

[@haroldgonzales1777]

Nice content

[@JReiAtsu]

Cam I know ur commander progress at this time?

[@herbertgronemeyer2378]

I still have one question: Are you able to use T5 for fighting in KVK? I think, you can only let them die in rallies/def. So you will use T4 for open field. And then I would like to have better commanders because war tech tree of lvl 24 academy is almost as good as maxed or am I wrong?

[@farmerbenny556]

Acad 24 tech is not even close to acad 25 maxed tech lol

[@herbertgronemeyer2378]

Of course it is

[@JReiAtsu]

@@12inchpvpness I'd take the 200 sculps from vip14 anyday than getting t5...

[@DDKKAY]

@@JReiAtsu exactly I have calculated it and found the difference is: take 200 golden Sculptures or Open T5 ..

[@gianmandac5684]

how did you get so far on vip?

[@rezu2864]

How much days you played this game

[@muhammadahmadali8111]

very informative. i also agree players should go for T5 tech after vip 12 because most of game events are dominated by T5s 👌

[@Markandism]

All the events are doable with T4 and good commanders Edit : My bad, you wrote T5 tech. Tech is needed you are correct

[@ibj3]

And here i am making weaker t5 run with my t4. Commanders play a big role. I do have t5 but i'm having more fun with t4. They are faster they cost less to make they take alot less rss and speedups to heal and with expertised legendary commanders with good gear you can make T5's run for their lives🤣

[@DDKKAY]

I have to pay 100000 gems on castle to upgrade from level 21 to level 25. I AM at VIP12 but 400000 points, so I need 100000 Gems to go VIP13. And later to VIP14 . If I get 500VIP points daily, I will need 200 days to take 100000 VIP points , so by paying gems I will arrive VIP14 in 200 days before so I makes only 200 Golden Sculptures. So the choice is : do you want T5 or 200 Golden Sculptures...?

[@SVDragunov137]

VIP12, 244 days in. In line with the point of this video: Would you say that it's worth spending gems on Books for Castle 25? I have no problem spamming barbs for Arrows (already Watchtower 24) but for the life of me I can't imagine joining rallies to get all those books. My Castle is stuck at level 16, to put things into perspective.

[@SVDragunov137]

@@12inchpvpness Thanks! So from this point on my gems should go into Books + Master's Blueprints, correct?

[@Jinxo-md2jl]

What about t5 over equipment events? T4 to t5 is only 10 to 15% stat change on atk,def,hp. So having t4 but great gear is the same as having bad gear and t5. The issue is the spending of gems. Should you rush it or just wait to naturally get books and arrows

[@12inchpvpness]

Just the tech from 9 to 10 from castle 25 is 36% of stats iirc Having t4 with perfect gear in every way is the same as having T5 basically naked haha

[@Markandism]

All the events you mentionned (Cerolii Crisis / Ian's Ballad / Ceroli assault / Golden Kingdom / Shadow Legions) can be completed at max level (Hell) and with max rewards without T5 troops. The only event that "requires" T5 troops is "Armmaster", but it depends of your Kingdom. If you are in an uber strong Kingdom, you will be rekt by governores with better commanders and equipment.

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness Then I'm certainly en exception, because I hit this power requirment without a single T5 troop. And thx, I know how to play Armmaster, but when you have 100 people that can score more than 305k points in the event, then it's pretty hard to be well ranked :-)

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness I was able to unlock T5 after 8 months of gameplay, but decided not too. I'm at 61m power now after one year, so yes, I think I reached 50M in 10 months, can't really remember to be honest, maybe I can find some screenshots. The only thing I do differently from you is that I researched other tech before T5. Otherwise I farm gems like you and chain barbs all the time. And if both of us were able to do it, the other players can too.

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness Of course, otherwise, what will be the point of me commenting your video ?

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness No Mina, no growth fund, still have the banner "double gems after first purchase", no google play gift. That's how we do it right ?

[@GG89262]

I say bullshit to your claim that in 8 months you could unlock T5 as a F2P.

[@FRJacs]

Respect bruh

[@Ryannkw]

What do you think is the best way to farm castle books? Forts or barbs, forts seems to costly for ap and you get the book 1/3 of the time whereby you keep getting gems from barb(more often & faster) and able to purchase books with it

[@chez123ish]

Bro I prefer barbs you get gems and speed ups as well

[@desfrisalim7577]

Me is VIP 12 go to castel for T5

[@piratekingtvggwp1192]

i agree to you brother

[@vaibhavsingh6760]

get t5 go in new kd beat everyone get good rank in mge then leave & have expertise commander & beat the heck out of everyone ' i am doing this in process i got t5 yesterday qill keep grinding passport & will go ner kd to win mges

[@izzatidzham7010]

I cant finish my castle yet and my acc is 1year old 😭

[@mace8775]

Just want to say 1) good video but 2) your idea on not being able to solo shadow legion without max tech isn’t true. I do it without it (all 9s except siege). But I also do it with a max arte, max ysg.

[@EvilPiggy24]

Watching from phillipines.. Im also f2p.. With 7m power.. 75days..

[@chit4077]

Ayeee same here

[@jambi8776]

Thats pretty decent amount of power broo

[@user-hp9sp1ox9q]

lol I'm already vip 14 & I'm very happy with it

[@ITguy409]

how long it will take to unlock t5 for a very active f2p player

[@iffatzaidi5164]

Depends on how active you grinding for the speedups. Save your universal speedups only for research. Dont spend it to speedup other things.

[@mdtanjilahmed8278]

i hit VIP 12 yesterday. thanks for explaining staff.

[@kingarthur2279]

good video

[@beamerandmercedesthebully3111]

Can u give us tips on upgrading castles ... its a f2p bottleneck bro

[@Markandism]

Rally a lot and try to do the maximum damage in the rally to get the best tier rewards

[@iffatzaidi5164]

Do forts with your farm acc. Send a little amount of troops from your farm. This is the way to get high lvl tier rewards. Below lvl5 fort, will give you 5books if you get 70% damage. I use this way to get books faster. I did using the neutral action point 1500, i get at least 40 books. If you are lucky, u will get more than that.

[@morsy8660]

This is ur account?

[@Personal_finance_]

What time have you past in this account ???

[@helperlions8267]

In any case i don't agree with this video. VIP is always on first place, no matter if you are p2p or f2p vip is always first choice. What is the hardest thing to get in this game? Its Gold heads and commnaders. Overtime u will get t5 sooner or later but gold heads you need more and more and more... The difference for f2p is u can't get 5 Legendary combos but u can get 1 with decent purple equipment but more you play u will get more in one point only difference between f2p and p2p will be equipment but both will have t5 and legendary commanders (p2p for sure more commanders but f2p will have chance of fighting and u can play and have fun). When u finish t5 research there is nothing more to do reasearch speedups become usless u cant use them nowhere. Legendary heads and equipment is future play that you need to focus. f2p making one pair by one with decent purple equipment but p2p will do the same just with golden equipment. f2p never focus on rally commanders always focus on open field commanders. f2p open 10 alts if you need farm rss so you always have enough for healing and u can always assist stronger players. Find your role, support, garrison, rally or open filed fighter and go till the end don't change your mind. In this game time is the biggest issue and mistakes that you made are expensive because you need time to make something. And Vip14 gives u more troop capacity, gathering speed and most important material production speed plus all rss production. So you are not losing only 200 sculptures u are actualy loosing a lot. If you say that average gold head is around 1200gems (various events and shops) and u check the price of materials you can do the math on your own to see what you are loosing. My personal advice for any kind of players is first get vip14 and after that start focusing on equipment. T5 will come if you are active f2p don't worry about t5. For example t5 with suntzu/mundeok and t5 with Richard/Mundeok its not the same. And if you put for example Richard with purple equipment all prock to inf and Richard with golden equipment u will find the difference but the point is which one will you choose to go. Make a plan for yourself and before you choose something check 10 times and when u do that check 11th time, don't be the player who is doing the tests be the player with vision and who knows what is doing. If you are on a newer kingdom seek the advice from players who are on older kingdoms.

[@helperlions8267]

And I am saying always go for VIP no mather what you have on the other side.

[@farmerbenny556]

It depends on you. But t5 after v12 is also good.

[@Internacionale84]

I want to see :how we farm gems for vip 12

[@ibj3]

Farming alone won't help it takes more time. Farm gems attack barbarians win events to get gems kvk is the best time to do so and only spend gems in more then gems event to get the best value. That's what i did.

[@Anthony-so4go]

Just save all of your AP for Lost Kingdom Period

[@kingkong-nb8zk]

You hévéa nous idea aboutit wah talk VIP always best t5 coast alot alot to train and heal

[@yoshitard64]

*Aw yes a 15M power player will reach T5 even tho he doesn't spend money anymore* Im thinking way ahead

[@phuhoang4678]

Hmmm t5 are targeted to be zero. ... he said when he was 30mil power they talked shot to him lol he was being cyber bullied in rok

[@phuhoang4678]

@@12inchpvpness I understand , I think you make valid points. But I get rewards from kvk i am 38mil power and I got rewards when I was 21mil power. I barely got vip14 and now I am going to focus on maxing my castle. I get a lot of enjoyment from leveling up commamders. I am not a f2p but I am not a whale. I am a low spender and play the way that brings me most enjoyment. But you provide good content for f2p and you should break down how long and how you achieved t5 in that timeline so all f2p will stop asking on facebook and discord lol

[@andrewv6996]

I'm a little over 50M power, VIP 15, and i eat weak t5 players for breakfast lunch and dinner in kvk, VIP 14 is more important then t5, idc how much power someone has, if they don't have good commands, they'll get melted , I'm at 80M+ kills all t4 and t5 EDIT: I use t4 alot too, because cheaper to heal, and still get 1:1 trades against t5s with bad commanders

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpnessT5 is needd for "Armmaster event" and ... That's it ... VIP 14 is needed to max commanders, which is the most tedious thing to do in RoK

[@farmerbenny556]

And someone with t5 with good comms eat you for snacks. Lol

[@satwantkaur9392]

The f2p are dressed what to do and I been playing for 1 year and only 25m power

[@Xur._]

Tanya's Volgs exactly, no way hes been playing for 284 days, with t5, 52 mil power, and f2p

[@juliens.2616]

Finally!! This point about 'having T5 with bad commander' is so rubbish. People dont realize having VIP14 instead of VIP12 is NOT what will make the difference between having a good set of commander or not.

[@Markandism]

50% increase of the daily income of gold heads ? I will sgin for it 10 times out of 10

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness Hey, I still need to share the pics of my account, you asked for it 2 days ago .. Are you online now ?

[@juliens.2616]

Marc Andenmatten jumping from vip 12 to 14, will allow you to max an extra legendary commander every 2+ year.... so I repeat, this is not making any significant difference. +50% might sound like a sweet boost and people often fall into this trap. The brutal reality is that the baseline of 2 (or 3) daily gold heads is so low compared to the 690 heads needed to max a legendary, that it doesn’t even barely have an impact. 80% of your golds heads will come from events, not dailies. In that light, prioritizing t5 over VIP14 makes a ton of sense. You’ll win more event with t5 available and will make up for most of the opportunity cost of deprioritizing VIP14. Eventually, you’ll reach VIP14, but it’s less crucial than t5

[@Markandism]

@@juliens.2616 VIP14 is the first step toward VIP17 ... And T5 are absolutely not needed to win events ...

[@juliens.2616]

@@Markandism well I totally disagree with your point. VIP 17 will probably never be attained by 99.9% of F2P, so it's not really an achievable goal. Othar than that, T5 are definitely needed to win event in A, B and even C kingdoms. I could make a case for D kingdoms, but those are so low populated than they have a low share of F2P anyways

[@lenteraabadi4251]

Lol. Have u ever gone field battle (pvp) with it ? Or u just use ur t5 for pve? People that said when you have t5 immediately ur kills will go up because of it..might not have t5 yet or maybe they just go around killing farmers with t5.

[@mezzo1081]

Use t5 for pve and play smartly for pvp, mostly t4 for pvp and sometimes t5 when you find a good oppurtunity. How hard is that to understand

[@gondarkece2254]

im agree if as long have 1good pair max legend commander........... if y find tsunsu bring t5 is clickbait right ? hahaha

[@hyperactivementality9141]

you forget that you must need the speed ups to get to t5. f2p wont even have enough saved speed ups in 200ish days to speed up to t5

[@Markandism]

Speedups aren't the problem if you are active

[@chez123ish]

F2p can gets lots of speed ups by killing barbs using aoe Comms bro

[@monaliza5175]

I’m f2p but I do vip15 first (in 190 day with 29m power) because not enough speed up for T5 😂🤣😅

[@monaliza5175]

12inchpvpness but for f2p i think vip14 is enough and i should work on castle or wheel of fortune. bye 👋🏻250k gems 😭

[@rE.N.D]

I'm f2p with 35m power with vip15 at 250 days of playing. All I did was joining a high p2w alliance before kvk1. And people respect you based on how much you pay

[@rE.N.D]

I was at 32m power after kvk1 and I didn't push power after that much saving speedups and today my kvk2 ends

[@Markandism]

VIP15 in 250 days is quite impressive ! I reached VIP13 in the same time, and the difference between both VIp is 500k points. That's an absurd amount of gold chests lol

[@rE.N.D]

I reached VIP 15 from VIP 14 in 40 days only without using any jems, in my alliance minimum of 6 gold chest guarantee daily

[@Markandism]

@@rE.N.D That's quite Insane I would say ...

[@likuet6]

Disagree. I am F2p vip 14 without t5 and can still do Ceroli crisis and all the events on highest difficulty.

[@likuet6]

@@12inchpvpness Oh i am sorry. I didnt understand it that way. English isnt my first language. Anyway very good videos. Way better than other big youtubers. Keep it up.

[@Yilmazfull]

you mention mge cant be done as t4 player, but a f2p should never put his eyes in mge, by the time the person does... he already is t5

[@TETT.]

the goal is to rush vip12 first then t5?

[@Zuqo.]

Golden kingdom doesnt have anything to do with t5 its just about your commanders and troop power lol

[@Anthony-so4go]

Weird.. Cause since i hit t5 i basically blind clicked all GK up to floor 20 🤔

[@Markandism]

You push VIP with gems, you push T5 with RSS and speedups. So why not both ?

[@aoxgam3r274]

@@12inchpvpness Thats a lot of damage

[@Markandism]

You can farm all the books needed in 200 days without using a single AP pot and without using a single gem

[@RandyRodgirth]

Marc Andenmatten no, you really can’t, need to spend gems on books or you’ll be waiting forever Edit: Turns out you can 😂

[@Markandism]

@@RandyRodgirth If I say you can, it's probably because I did it ? If you think you need to gems your castle, that's good for you. Or you can farm books efficiently for 200 days and invest your gems in VIP points instead.

[@RandyRodgirth]

Marc Andenmatten you got to castle 25 in 200 days by spending no gems or ap? That’s around 20k books, you’d have to do at least 7k forts in 6/7 months to do that, probably more, while not even using ap pots?

[@leahevony1799]

is nox better than bluestacks?>

[@Markandism]

LD Player the best I have tried so far

[@wificable2530]

Vip 15 than T5😂 helps with the massive healing

[@saturdaysun7699]

The secret is out boys🏃🏃 I agree, Ceroli , Ian's Ballads and M.G.E amongst other events is a lot to give up for V.I.P . I'd honestly give it up for V.I.P 10, t5 will bring back the sculptures in events e.g Osiris, I'd rather have just two expertised legendary commanders with good equipment leading t5 infantry which I'm almost doing at VIP9, I agree, I kinda feel like my presence is insignificant as an around 30 mill power player cause I'm sorrounded by t5 players. T5 gives you options, the option to fight other people (which you wouldn't fight with t4) The option to move to a kingdom/alliance of your choice. Kills and deaths will bring themselves if I have the presence in the battlefield. I'll pick my battles, If it's someone who I stand no chance against, I'll keep off and avoid unnecessary losses. I'll also have the option of fighting with t4 to cut my losses but with the power of t5. Once you have t5, you just win Ceroli and golden kingdom, equipment just brings itself without much struggle, the gems that you get plus the tech to farm them will propel the next V.I.P levels.

[@Jjenkin1988]

I don’t agree with some of your statements. I’ve been in K1079 since over 2 years ago. I’m a F2P player and I don’t get smoked and I have been a major part of my kingdoms end game. I came 2nd place in MGE coz I went and smashed up multiple cities. I am 55m power and have 5m dead and am not a lost cause without T5. The way to play is to play smart fella. I have stacks of rss and gear and shed load of equipment. To all those F2P payers. Your T4 do more damage and are more supportive than mentioned.

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness T5 tech =/= T5 troops ... You can stop at T5 tech, the troops are not worth it

[@Markandism]

@@12inchpvpness To unlock T5, you received 5B ressources assistance from your alliance teammates. Do you plan to ask them again some ressources to get a good ranking in MGE ? If you are in a competitive Kingdom, you can forget about a good spot in MGE. And no point giving 180 heads to a f2p, it's a better use to give them to a spender (in fixed MGE of course)

[@Snar]

@@12inchpvpness fixed MGE sucks

[@iamAdrian_Gaming]

😂😂😂 Your Name Tho I'm t4 vip 10

[@omgundo948]

sorry i hate t5, i eat t5 for breakfast and dinner

[@juliuschoy2329]

Vip 14 is shit, vip15 is where it’s at, helps me research my t5 faster too

[@eabaendallbeall7959]

Those people you played with sound like they sucked. Sorry that was the experience you had.

[@ragnar69420]

T5 without proper commanders is just a waste of rss

[@farmerbenny556]

Maxed comms without tech are waste as well. Just saying

[@ragnar69420]

@@farmerbenny556 have you ever healed t5? T4 healing is nothing

[@Xur._]

you are not f2p