Knock at the Cabin Is Awkward

[@Bouncy_Seal]

Knock at the Cabin is a movie which asks the question "wouldn't it be messed up if this happened?" and then the answer is yes and the movie ends

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

It's like a Twilight Zone episode, but worse

[@SunshineCasy]

That kind of violence veiled in flattery and denial is exactly what modern homophobia looks like. "We have nothing against you being gay. In fact, we picked you because your love is soo deep! Nah, this religious-coded violence that makes you choose between a gay family and everyone dying is completely unrelated to the fact you're gay."

[@boldandbrash9447]

The Cabin That Makes No Apparent Difference to Your Age

[@mjstew4453]

The Cabin where you get exactly one second older every second.

[@That_One_Xatu]

​@@mjstew4453 To add to that: *which is exactly the same as the average speed of aging elsewhere in the world.

[@Gloomdrake]

​@@That_One_Xatu or, at the very least, it's the flow of time as Africa

[@thebaseandtriflingcreature174]

​@@That_One_Xatu "the cabin which causes you to age at the speed of aging"

[@WhaleManMan]

Dave Bautista playing someone who wears a shirt is the real unnatural horror here

[@BallisticCryptid]

So I have some input about this movie. This movie was originally based on a book called The Cabin at The End of the World and in the book the four people who show up at the cabin are actually there against their will. Like, there are numerous points throughout the story where they're trying to actively combat their own urges to follow through with this plan of sorts and because the book is in part shown from their points of view, you actually know that its an otherworldly force taking hold of them in order to make them carry out the apocalypse. What also makes this so interesting in the book is that the disasters within the book are much more coincidental, such as reports of several tsunamis and plane crashes appearing on the News, but not being overt if that's actually caused by the deaths of the visitors. So because of this, it's ambiguous if this is actually part of the apocalypse, or if it's more so a bunch of coincidences that happen to make it seem like the apocalypse is occurring. The biggest difference between the book and the movie is that Wen actually dies by an accident in the book which drastically alters the ending of the movie where instead of one of the fathers taking their life to stop the apocalypse, they determine that even if an apocalypse is actually occurring that it would be pointless to stop it because whatever god is causing this did this to their daughter and therefore, they don't want to make a higher power succeed. It's a very bleak and nuanced story which I feel isn't given proper justice in the movie. If any of you are interested in hearing more about the book, Amanda the Jedi did a fantastic comparison between the two.

[@emilystewart6175]

I haven't seen either but I'm really interested in the discussion happening in these comments. This comment made me really want to read the book, so thank you very much! (Also I feel I have a nice video recommendation now ☺️)

[@BunnyLove5763]

Wow, this sound infinitely better and less stupid than the movie’s ending.

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

this movie is what happens when Christians convince you they're actual people.

[@nomukun1138]

I have another tab open to an "RPG horror stories" video. Shyamalan seems just like a GM overstepping his bounds. GM: "Your character is now under a curse and I control them, so they are now a pawn of the evil god you've been fighting this whole time." Shyamalan: "I now own the rights to your story, so now the characters that you made to fight a hopeless battle against societal oppression are just going along with it."

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

@@nomukun1138Shyamalan would never tweet #JusticeForFnord

[@lazyhammerwieldingpenguin2247]

Meg made the exact same "Old" reference I was going to within the first minute and now I don't know what to do with myself.

[@Joey245]

"The ocean is just punching stuff now..." DAMMIT LAPIS YOU WERE MY FAVORITE GEM WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS

[@Gloomdrake]

If you could move the whole ocean, you would make it punch stuff, too

[@GiovanniCloud]

I could understand if this was during the series when she just got out of the mirror and wanted to go home.

[@packman2321]

It's weird that pestilence is the most accurate one given that Pestilence is like the least canonical of the four horsemen (the originals just use the word 'death' for them and 'Conquest' is an earlier interpretation for the rider of the white horse). Also there's a rather interesting tension between Shyamalan's argument for faith and the fact the God he's advocating for (especially here) is so consistently cruel and arbitrary. Like this makes more sense in Signs bur at a certain point an all-powerful tyrant isn't worth having (not to extend this to a critique of religion itself. It's kind of essential to the binding of Isaac that God doesn't make Abraham go through with it). I suppose we could also read this more widely to critique Shyamalan's position as the director of this stuff and thus the 'god' who is making everything in universe happen.

[@liliththesolarexalted2206]

I feel like people really forget that aspect of Abraham and Isaac's story, he didn't force the father to go all the way through with it, and it adds an interesting juxtaposition when in the future God would later on sacrifice his own son to give humanity a chance at escaping Hell. It makes the usage of sacrifice for humanity in this movie feel off and generally clunky.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Is that a motherfucking Chainsaw Ma-**gunshots**

[@MadameTamma]

Here's an idea. What if instead of each zealot sacrificing themselves triggers another plague, it was changed to 'All of the plagues were about to be set off all at once, but through a sacrifice, they were able to make it so only one plagued happened for the time being.' That way instead of slowing CAUSING the apocalypse to happen, their sacrifices were mitigating damage and buying them a little more time. It seems like a small change like that would have made a lot more sense.

[@iamwords2d200]

So if I remember correctly, this was adapted from a book called “Cabin at the End of the World” and it ended very differently.

[@rita6355]

How did it end?

[@iamwords2d200]

if I’m remembering this correctly (I haven’t read it just heard the ending) one the cultists shot the daughter on accident. This made the apocalypse enviable. Again can’t verify definitively, just remember it being a part of a James Somerton video.

[@CTOONfan1]

@@iamwords2d200 The daughter was killed when one of the dads and Leonard were fighting over the gun. The horsemen said that death didn’t count because it was on accident. After the horsemen all die, the parents decide that if their daughter’s death wasn’t enough for God to save the world, the world isn’t worth saving. It’s ambiguous if the world actually ends or not.

[@ActuallySatan]

@@CTOONfan1 I actually kind of like that ending. The book ties that closely into Andrew and Eric's personal experience with discrimination and the idea that "If there is a God, and he believes singling out us to personally make this choice to determine the fate of a world that, ultimately, won't be any different after this aside from our daughter being dead, we're not going to give that God what he wants. If that's what it takes to save the world, the world can burn." Which honestly, I can understand that, especially after everything that happens in the book.

[@pman87850]

@@ActuallySatan honestly the fact that M. Night didn’t just greatly change the story, but makes the moral of it almost the exact opposite of the original source material is…… I do t if I’d say infuriating cause I don’t have much emotion connection to the original story but I’d have to think that if I was the author I would be pissed at the outright disrespect and dismissal of the message I wanted to say in my story.

[@liliththesolarexalted2206]

Honestly, I think the initial concept of a gay couple fighting off home invaders would have been much more interesting, and even empowering if done right. That was the only thing which really hooked my interest from the story and everything else just felt too...i don't know. Over the top?

[@enigmaj1494]

I think you should read the original book, but be warned that it’s incredibly depressing after a point and the ending is purposefully ambiguous.

[@Glacidon]

20 minutes into the video and I'm making the hard read that the twist is that the four people somehow hacked into their TV and made their fake new articles

[@MrDrewwills]

Kinda funny how both this movie & Old have strong beginnings as they largely follow the plot of the book/comic they're based on, then fall flat when M. Night changes something.

[@michatarka2642]

Holy fuck the kids I coach line is brutal. So stupidly powerful

[@Sgublaka94]

So basically The Trolley Problem: The Movie?

[@Kushufy]

the trolley problem isnt when consequentialism happens

[@Spectra651]

@@Kushufy The trolley problem: You're in a trolley speeding towards two diverging tracks. Tied up on one set is someone you love; tied to the other is a group of 5 people you don't know. You have to pull a lever that will determine which set of tracks the trolley goes down, so the question becomes: do you sacrifice a person you love to save a bunch of strangers, or let the strangers die in order to save your loved one? The movie: The world is speeding towards the apocalypse, and a family is informed that they have the power to stop it if they sacrifice one of their own. Do they decide to sacrifice a loved one to save the rest of humanity, or do they let humanity die so their loved one can be spared? Yeah, this movie is *perfectly* analogous to the trolley problem. Also, the trolley problem and consequentialism aren't mutually exclusive, so I don't know what you're splitting hairs about.

[@vfxninja5503]

I like how Shyamalan's ending just completely spits in the face of the book he stole the plot from.

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

That's the second time he's done that now, third if you just count general adaptation of a story.

[@oldhorsemen6200]

I am glad that the Beach that Makes You Old and the Bubo Pit made their grand return. It is terrific that Dave Bautista is in movies outside Marvel, such as Knock at the Cabin and Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery. Also, another content creator I watch, Brandon Likes Movies, did a review comparing Knock at the Cabin to 10 Cloverfield Lane.

[@ladyj.3020]

At least Dave gets to wear a pair of delicate little glasses again

[@kingbubbles9461]

Damn I’d love for someone to knock at my cabin

[@DelBunny19]

So, judging from Old and Knock At The Cabin. The message I'm receiving is that M. Night should stop being allowed to make adaptations of better material. Like SERIOUSLY

[@ThatGreenMach1ne]

Dave Bautista seems like the best part of this movie, ngl.

[@1stNutbar]

Yeah, he has really grown as an actor. Loved him in knifes out :)

[@rainyrouge5123]

He is

[@mjstew4453]

Agreed!

[@mjstew4453]

As soon as it stop being ambiguous as to whether on not it was the apocalypse or a delusion death cult I lost all interest. That speech from Eric just took me out too.

[@enigmaj1494]

You should read the book this is based on then.

[@mjstew4453]

@@enigmaj1494 I already heard the ending but I'm still thinking about checking it out!

[@OptimisticAudience]

So I know the book is a very dour and depressing book, but I respect its themes and style. Spoilers The book fundamentally doesn't want to show you plagues happening. By the end one of the horsemen agrees with them disobeying sacrifice orders and helps them, and then starts talking about how they need to sacrifice someone while she's helping them leave. She's being compelled by *something* to try to convince them to die while she's crying and shaking her head. That's the supernatural hint and it's way more effective to me. And then of course there's the books ending, which the rest of the story was setting up. He changed the ending and that's why there's that disconnect with the third act.

[@Nitzah]

In the source material from the book “Cabin at the End of the World” while the entire thing is left ambiguous and up to the reader to decide if these were actually the 4 horsemen or some crazy people with a shared dillusion, it is described as them having an uncontrollable compulsion to carry out each sacrifice to release the various plagues on humanity regardless of their own will against it. Almost as if the 4 intruders are being held hostage as well but in a more presumably supernatural manner and while I won’t spoil the main twist and ending, I will say they do cover one of the intruders who is at the end pretty fucking done with everything and does their best fight off the voices and compulsion (almost possession..?) for as long as possible before ultimately succumbing. If they had more of a way to express that in the movie and kept it pretty faithful to the book’s twist and ending it could’ve been a box office banger

[@StellarRetribution]

The Cabin That Makes You Die

[@Bibienneh]

Zoe pfp yippiiee!!

[@clementineshetheyfae8312]

I desperately need to watch funny games (2007) Patricia Taxxon made a very convincing video essay and I’m so excited

[@WhenyoBrainGoesNumb]

I was watching a video (I think by James Somerton) about this movie before it came out and he said that in the book, they do kill the daughter

[@robertallan8035]

Hey, I have a recommendation that I think might be up your alley. It's a horror film on KZbin called Emesis blue, full length and animated in SFM. There's a bit of jank to the animation and Voice acting, and the premise is based on the game TF2 and might be a bit confusing, but I walked away considering it one of my favorite psychological thrillers, and it came out only a few days ago.

[@J_CtheEngineer]

In this, the cabin that makes you old.

[@angibalangi]

did you guys watch that one ai generated video of Joe rogan and Ben shapiro talking about the Beach that makes you old?

[@RiaxaraCo]

So apparently I’m the book this is based on they’re actually compelled by some being or whatever to do all this, so it makes more sense than the movie.

[@kidkangaroo5213]

The more I think about it, the more this movie seems to be just kind of a bargain bin version of Everything Everywhere

[@WeRNotAlive]

Some Things Some Places Simultaneously

[@Gloomdrake]

​@@WeRNotAlive I think it should be Sequentially

[@Ashtonyss]

Imagine writing a book that does well enough to get a movie adaptation and then finding out Shyamalan is going to be directing. Now that's a twist.

[@silverwingwarlock3755]

We don't want to end the world, but we will end the world, to save the world

[@hyperspacesushi]

I actually kind of liked the premise of the movie as well as the execution of it. Things could've been handled better, sure, but I think M. Night did a pretty good job with this in comparison to the ol' reliable Old. That being said, a lot of things are done a lot better than Old, so I guess that isn't saying much-

[@mathieuleader8601]

Dave Bautista character here could double up as a great Dr. Hugo Strange in the Matt Reeves Batman films

[@Admmkh]

Saucy bubos....

[@nullvoidnaraka]

4:13 That sounds like the first Purge movie

[@etharchildres3976]

I don't know what these guys are on about this sounds like a masterpiece. This is hilarious.

[@hiurro]

Just based on the description of the plot it seems like the moral of the movie is believe in God kill gay man and that makes me really uncomfortable. Especially when based on the comments it seems that part is Shyamalan's addition not part of the original.

[@Pvale777]

Damn. KZbin didn't notify me again!

[@cortomaltese5206]

This premise feels like something written by a person with too much free time on their hands.

[@enigmaj1494]

Guys, you need to read the original book to know how terrible this is as an adaptation. I’ve only ever watched three M. Night movies, The Last Airbender, Old, and parts of 2012. I only know the full plot of this and the book because I watched Amanda the Jedi’s video on it (because I knew that one of the dads had to die, and I wasn’t going to even entertain the idea of watching a movie with that premise), so unless he has any more movies with source material, this puts Shamalyan 0-3 in the sport of adaptation!!! Old was barely passable until the end in that regard. He also has a really bad time with adapting ambiguous endings, but since I haven’t seen anything else, I can’t just conclude he lacks the ability to be subtle (even though I get that feeling from him.) It sucks because he literally took the most atheist-affirming story starring gay men I’ve ever heard about (I still don’t have the widest knowledge of narrative art, so give me recommendations if you know any) and turned it into “Well you’re irrational for trying to say people with next-to-no legitimate evidence aren’t likely to be correct; just believe lol!” I now know I don’t like this man as a creative and frankly a person, and I don’t feel bad because he still has the power to make these shit movies.

[@enigmaj1494]

Sorry for ranting, but because you guys made this video, I’ve had to think about this terrible adaptation again.

[@NoHandleLol13]

This is just the fifth wave

[@ThisIsYourGodNow]

weird that you guys didn't acknowledge that it was an adaptation of a book. They really shouldn't have changed the ending.

[@emilystewart6175]

I'd assume they were unaware of the book upon making this. Though i've been enjoying going through the comments and reading people's comparing it to the book.

[@Gloomdrake]

Signs x The Happening? The Sign Spinning?

[@troyjardine5850]

Reasons why Shyamalan should have been blacklisted from filmmaking after The Last Airbender; number 7. Congrats M! In addition to continuing to vilify the mentally disabled, you created a movie in which a gay family needs to be destroyed in order to save the world.

[@sugoiuseismoeabuse4058]

Like he's ableist and homophobic. The only surprise is that he didn't go full racist after the weird whitewashing of Avatar.

[@caterinagerbasi1594]

the campaign of people that keep acting like he is good in any way is gaslighting against me.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Need someone to make one of those AI voice memes where Biden talks about how he went to the Cabin from Knock at the Cabin

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

*One of the four strangers gets beaten to death by the others* "Come on Jack, cut out the malarkey!"

[@leothelion6245]

U realize halfway thru this movie that the only reason why this gay family goes through a magical hate crime is because shyamalan felt like it lol

[@ringer1324]

Is there a beach that makes you old in this one? If not I’m not watching it.

[@nomukun1138]

There's a Beach that Makes You Wet at one point

[@fishlordusername891]

I will say I thought the awkwardness of the characters was fun, didnt know it was a horror movie. That being said it was definitely average and the fact that they collapsed the question of whether it was real or not, the straight wiggling about of "no of course in totally cool wirh you being gay! We're not homophobic!" And what felt like kind of needless violence for rhe story made it hard for me to enjoy it beyond passive entertainment.

[@familyguyfeline]

This is my least favorite episode of Shyamalan Boyz

[@AndaraBledin]

"This is peak Shyamalan." Only, this is only barely Shyamalan at all because it's based on a book, and only the changed ending really belongs to him. Honestly, Gus, you should have done at least enough research to know about the source.

[@WeRNotAlive]

I did know the source??? It was even cut out of the audio of this video. Something can still be the peak example of a director's style while not being written by the director. That's always been true.

[@AndaraBledin]

@@WeRNotAlive If you mentioned it, I must have missed it. That would be my bad, then. It just seemed like you were really talking up Shyamalan, and I think maybe it would have added to what you were saying to talk about how he changed the ending to be even more of his vision.

[@WeRNotAlive]

I disliked the movie's ending either way and I'm reviewing the movie not the book. It's not bad because its different, its bad because of the reasons I gave in the video for it being bad.

[@kaemonbonet4931]

Imagine if instead of the plagues given it actually was war famine plague and death and the last bit of the movie with Dave Bautista was like, "nukes have been launched, you have 30 minutes to make your decision. " And in miraculous fashion all the nukes fail to detonate after the sacrifice has been made.

[@bobburger4282]

Didn't watch due to the 2 big pics on the screen that block all the scenes. I'd say loose the cartoon picks.

[@emilystewart6175]

I think they just use b roll footage from the trailer on a loop so you're not missing much. The aim of these types of videos is always to be more of a podcast anyway so you can also just listen in

[@bobburger4282]

@@emilystewart6175 oh? My bad. Good point. Didn't think of it that way. Thanks for the insight!

[@pinkfurret6245]

Very strange comment.

[@amazingedits6912]

I’m gonna say this as a pansexual Christian who has seen the movie… I feel like people thinking the movie has a homophobic message, isn’t really a nuanced take. Idk.

[@toyotatacoma1616]

Truly one of the worst adaptations in recent memory. It’s actually impressive how much it mangles the themes of the original book.

[@getschwifty5537]

The book has a better ending.

[@wolfclaw719]

so the plot of this whole movie is god wants a gay couple to die? I'm amazed I haven't heard people trying to cancel it

[@WeRNotAlive]

It’s almost like no one cancels mainstream movies from the left.

[@wolfclaw719]

@@WeRNotAlive I'll take your word for it I've completely lost touch with what is and isn't mainstream...

[@WeRNotAlive]

Sounds like a you problem.

[@wolfclaw719]

@@WeRNotAlive it is and I'm trying to get better but man movies are expensive

[@frakspikes2619]

here is my own best attemp at playing Shamalan's attornei Giat Water Fist = War. Maybe as a refrence to water and earth as powerful elements both linked to life, but who are otherwise being compleatly diffrent, and the giant water fists are something better akin to Kiogre vs Groudon, but only having it reffrence 1 of the 4 mystical elements Super Flue = Pestilance for sure, but element wise, unless you cout virus as "Nature" and therefore, in a roundabout way making it earth rather thain air i don't know how to properly add this piece to the puzzle i'm currentlt trying to help you all solve Falling Planes = Famine, kind of. If you know how supply chain work world wide, and how they are single handdedly responsible for keeping "Western" civilisation from collapsing under the weight of its demand for food and other products, then planes falling from the sky makes sence, especially if they just so happen to land on roads and traintracks (but that wasn't added in the reports on the movie, so i'll keep it as amuted point). Also, falling planes Air duh. Neverending Lightning = Lightning strikes you, very unlikely that you'll come out alive, so yeah Death. Also to those who haven't watched avatar the last airbender the animated series do IT *NOW* and then you'll get why lightning = fire and that's my best defence for M "Never do a movie again please, for all our sanities" Shaymalan choice on enterpreting the 4 major plagues in this movie sure it isn't perfect but then again neither is the movie

[@BunnyLove5763]

Wow ok I finally watched this movie and this was garbage. I hate this so much. People like to throw around the term “kill you gays” a lot when discussing any fictional conflict involving gay people, but this is a real a true example of the trope. The only way for the conflict to be fixed is for a gay man to make a biblical sacrifice and kill his own husband. There’s no good way of slicing that resolution. And the fact that the movie tries so hard to be like “Nono this isn’t because of homophobia at all!” Just makes it so goddamn pretentious.

[@pleasekillyoursef]

This is better than Cabin in the Woods