KOMAEDA VS OMA: Comparison & Analysis

[@AtChiaPet]

Unstoppable Hope vs. Immovable Liar

[@totallyrantaroamami651]

KOKICHI DOES NOT LIE STOP

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

@@totallyrantaroamami651 as someone who loves kokichi so much, he 100% lies

[@bun3213]

Kokichi is an innocent angel and never lies 🤬/j

[@ForrestFox626]

Immovable Liar!

[@ahelpfulname3072]

@@totallyrantaroamami651 But Kokichi literally said he lies all the time .-.

[@jeffeverywhere]

"And so I found a bomb, tonight this island is Vietnam" vs "Miu, you don't need makeup, you need plastic surgery"

[@victorhundred8621]

Best comment of the video right here

[@scrabs4855]

lol is that supposed to be a reference to heathers

[@jeffeverywhere]

@@scrabs4855 yes

[@yukk3rz]

Ah, yes a Heathers reference, my favorite

[@nildarodriguez8550]

I wish kokichi said that to miu

[@popstarfaller36yt50]

Real reason why Byakuya wasn't included: He survived

[@grapepantacan]

Nagito survived too tho- ,at least in the real world

[@Rainy_R]

Byakuya is the “sane” one

[@chihirofujisakiwithagun9469]

@@Rainy_R lol

[@KerberosV3]

I feel like the fact that Byakuya wasn't included is that he isn't really a great example of antagonist. The most threatening things he did were messing up with Chihiro's body and taking Kirigiri's key. During a lot of the game he would just spend the time in the Library and didn't interact with many characters, really. Byakuya as an antagonist is a lot of bark but no bite. He never did anything that put everyone in absolute danger (even in the trial, he said that he would expose his actions if the others were going in the wrong direction.) ps. I get the joke I just went off track thinking about it I guess-

[@Rainy_R]

@@KerberosV3 true

[@slawof9442]

Nagito: Finds a winning lottery ticket in the bag he is stuffed in Nagito’s kidnapper: 😐😑😐

[@bun3213]

I feel so bad for chuckling..

[@SingularPhasmid]

Later: News reporter: Good evening! Tonight we found a kidnapper who died from a car crash. When we checked in the car and found someone inside a bag. We opened it, and the boy that has been inside had found a lottery ticket along with other things such as a book about hope and first aid.

[@Teakettlez]

@@SingularPhasmid and a 4 lea- oh wait no a 3 LEAF CLOVER!! YEAH

[@sw4gito]

I honestly hate when people act like they’re the same person they’re so different. I love them both though

[@kingserpentsea]

...hi swagito

[@sw4gito]

@@kingserpentsea hey ‼️

[@kingserpentsea]

@@sw4gito I changed my name and profile picture, I’m “whisper”. You know, the one with the Hu Tao profile picture?

[@sw4gito]

@@kingserpentsea oh I remember you😧

[@interntangel]

yes i agree also hi agaim

[@jinnimoo]

Nagito is genuinely insane while Kokichi only pretends to be. Nagito severely lacks social perception, whereas Kokichi excels at it and often use it to his advantage. Nagito also wanted to 'start' the killing game by using his life and Kokichi wanted to use his life to end it.

[@bombaymessyasf]

Even though he didn't have to do that and could have easily just used Mius fancy inventions to take over the killing game and not put a target on his back, (especially when they have an assassin amongst them,) and just lived in peace in the academy

[@bombaymessyasf]

Also there is much more to Nagitos character, and his motive for killing at the end was actually one of the most selfless or just beneficial to the ENTIR WORLD

[@user-wk9cm9ov2c]

Honestly I would say that Nagito is a bit psychopathic while kokichi is more sociopathetic

[@jaxon1670]

@@user-wk9cm9ov2c not at all. did you *not* see him during the despair road tunnel, after rantaro’s dead, or after kaede’s execution, or after ryoma’s death, or kinda after kirumis execution, or after gonta’s execution, or before his own death? he has moments in the game where he expresses his true emotions, he’s just really good at hiding them, because he’s a liar. sociopaths don’t feel feelings at all. kokichi’s just good at hiding them.

[@user-wk9cm9ov2c]

@@jaxon1670 Lmao.... Sociopath's do feel something they just don't care about others feelings

[@chaoticneutral9256]

I feel like Komeada is more of a anti-villain and Kokichi is more of a anti-hero at least how they are presented in both stories, with Nagito trying to kill them in the end while oma tried to end the killing game in trial five That’s my two cents at least.

[@jayjayjay6152]

so kokichi is anti-hero for trying to end the killing game?

[@yeliz6930]

@@jayjayjay6152 yes, he had good intentions but very negative and questionable ways of getting what he wanted (aka manipulating gonta), so he would be classed as an anti-hero

[@jayjayjay6152]

@@yeliz6930 im not talking about that, im talking about what was written in the actual comment itself

[@yeliz6930]

@@jayjayjay6152 sorry about that!

[@anonanon7986]

@@yeliz6930 NO! THAT'S WRONG! Manipulating Gonta isn't what makes Kokichi an Anti-Hero as that wasn't even part of the plan. He did that because he had to survive for his plan to work, and Miu was going to kill him. So he had no choice but to sacrifice Gonta.

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Honestly I feel like Nagito is just as realistic as Kokichi is, he’s just a lot harder to understand. I mean let’s go over all this: He canonically has frontal lobe dementia. (Props to the series for being specific about the type) the guys also in a whole tangled mess of trauma too, he almost died multiple times his parents actually died in a horrific vehicle crash, he’s had cancer in his immune system (which is why he was affected by the despair disease the most) hell, he’s the ultimate lucky student just to be alive at that point. In his eyes his luck, and hope are the only things he’s got left which is why he values them so much, and goes through all the insanity.

[@iceprism367]

He's kinda like a one person cult in a way. It's interesting cause his luck is the only thing he thinks he can hold on to since most things or people that come into his life will eventually get destroyed, but the luck cycle will always be there. It's the only thing he can be sure of and find some sort of comfort in because it always follows through.

[@Solo_LuX]

Oh my gosh I never thought of it that way- I love how you said that, like why he values hope/luck, LIKE WOAH. This makes me like him more now

[@iceprism367]

@@Solo_LuX I swear there are always more layers to him. Once you think you have him all figured out... Boom! There's more complexity that you either forgot about or didn't think of yet!

[@marieisgae6296]

*Exactly.* THIS.

[@xnortheast1106]

no

[@issy4122]

What really sucks about Kokichi is that he never really got to redeem himself in the eyes of the characters. We know, as the player, how he actually wanted to help everyone, though people (Himiko) still thought he was lying, even after knowing he sacrificed himself. Because of his lies, nobody ever knew if he was being actually genuine or not and this kinda makes me sad for him.

[@II-ik2bt]

Thats what i thought while playing, i was mad that no one believed him after literally sacrificing himself, but theyre to blame too, if they would look more into his actions and talk with kaito about the situation, they would have atleast believed in kokichi. Its really sad tbh, but Kokichis whole "cover-the.truth.with-lies" personality made it hard to believe too, so i dont blame them entirely, i was still dissappointed in kaito for still doubting kokichi while watching him dying.

[@II-ik2bt]

@Kxtoko deadass

[@dilanymajestic298]

@Sonia Nevermind OK BUT LIKE HIM IN THE JPN VERSION IS BETTER I THINKY OU SHOULD LOOK AT MISTRANSLATION :) if you didn’t

[@goduzamaki4118]

@Kamila Bayardo that's crazy too cuz he was the main ones Kokichi messed with

[@killiehall5928]

It upsets me so much knowing that even after they found out Kokichi basically committed suicide to save the others, they still shrugged it off saying "Kokichi never cared" or "In the end he's still a piece of shit". I mean, he's done some pretty shitty things nonetheless, but that doesn't make him as bad a person they paint him. We ALL heard his motive, yet people still diss on the guy for being different and WAY more interesting than really anyone in my opinion. Now, I'm not trying to shove my opinion up people's asses, that's just rude. I'm kinda just ranting yk? Thanks for having me!! ❤️

[@adrianacaggese2606]

I think something a LOT of people forget is why exactly Nagito put his plan into place and did what he did, and I think it's because even the game undermined it as "a crazy person's scheme": Nagito didn't just kill himself "for the sake of hope". He did it to save the outside world. After finding out they were all the remnants of despair with amnesia and (understandably) thinking they would all go back to killing innocent people and following Enoshima once outside the virtual reality, he concluded they were too evil, or as he put it, the embodiment of despair. Of course, Makoto's plan was still the right thing to do and they all deserved to live normal lives once no longer brainwashed, but I see this part of his thought process go completely ignored by anyone. What I mean is that Nagito, in his Nagito way, was still trying to save innocent people and that has to be considered when thinking about his character.

[@bombaymessyasf]

You're absolutely right on so many levels. I hate how Kokichi's actions are getting justified by his fans, and hes getting praised for supposedly *Trying to prevent everyone* when they diminish Nagito to a crazy Hopesexual just doing something insane, whereas his actions were waaaaaaaaay more selfless than kokichi, even willing to torture himself even though at the time he wasn't an ultimate despair. Yet with Kokichi, where his action were a little more terrible gets off Scott free, even though his actions are unclear and the reason he's liked is because he "supposedly" complex and part of that complexity is because of his lies. But they choose to believe the better side of him that they want, and excuse his actions and say *He was a UwU good boy* as an excuse But drop-kicks much better characters like Nagito for being pure evil

[@DLxxx]

@@bombaymessyasf What argument are you trying to make here? You can't just say "What Kokichi did was worse than what Nagito did", and NOT explain why. And yeah Nagito tortured himself... in a plan that was supposed to kill _everyone_ except the traitor. When did Ouma try to destroy the entire V3 cast and doom them all again? Gee, I can't think of a single time. I only remember him explicitly telling them not to fall for Monokuma's BS, and impersonate the mastermind to _force_ them to have no reason to continue the killing game. And this notion that Kokichi's fans think he's some sort of innocent saint is just objectively wrong, and I'm certain you realize this, considering YOU constantly diminish him as a "psychopathic" Nagito rip off. Refusing to acknowledge any of their fundamental differences in presentation and writing, without ever giving a reason for why these differences seem so small/negligible to you. I'm not saying you can't like Nagito, but you seem to jump at every every opportunity to criticize Kokichi and diminish him as some sort of clone of a better character (in your opinion) without ever giving a strong argument for why. Like, yeah people enjoy how mysterious his backstory is, but that doesn't mean they can't decipher really interesting and layered aspects to his character based of his actions, dialogue, and presentation in the game. And when they do, it's satisfying to go back and realize what he was most likely thinking at every stage of V3. Just because they don't spoonfeed you information about every aspect of his life, doesn't mean there isn't still major depth to his actions (there's more than one way to craft a strong character). For example, we KNOW he was guilty and heavily affected by Kaede's death, because his actions from Chapter 2 onward are done in order to prevent another killing from happening (one of the first things he does is verbally tell everyone to stop cooperating and falling for Monokuma's traps afterall), and this gets further contextualized when we learn he's heavily against the idea of killing in general. Which is why it's enjoyable for so many that we get to actively watch him develop and struggle with his morals in chapter 4.

[@notagod4869]

@@bombaymessyasf lmao it's obvious that you like nagito better with the way that you literally go to a lot of comments in order to praise/defend him, while at the same time you keep criticizing kokichi. And then when people respond to you defending kokichi (because damn your analysis skills are way off the charts with how blatantly _wrong_ and generalized they are [ie. "kokichi is another crazy character like nagito with the villainess level turned up to 11"]), you reply saying how you actually like both of them! What a covert hypocrite. Also, kokichi isn't literally crazy like nagito. I think he was pretty sane. He definitely knows when to get serious and when to play around and lie (i think he was more like hiyoko in the sense that he bullies people, and it's his playful personality [as a supreme leader of a group that does harmless pranks] that makes him lie for fun and -be the annoying pest he is- act dramatically to make things less boring) whereas nagito is pretty consistent in his actions and opinions and obsessions which makes it really obvious that something's wrong with him. (And yes, i know about the trauma that his talent brought him, and the frontotemporal dementia, too) Overall, craziness or no craziness doesn't make a character bad. They're both good and for the love of god, They. Aren't. The. Same. Edit: added parentheses

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@notagod4869 Ok first of all dont assume which character I like better, just because I'm criticizing Kokichi under fair use which i am allowed to do doesn't mean I like Nagito better (in fact I think they're both annoying) I just think Nagito has an edge because he actually has a backstory and is original and anyone with a functional liver can see the obvious similarities that go a long way And my analysis of him is not blatantly wrong. I thought Kokichi's character was complex just like an idiot before like you guys But I actually started to think for myself and stopped relying on the fandoms depiction of him for ammunition in an argument Also you are right, About my hypocrisy saying "I actually like him" That is because I've had a bad experience with fangirls And unless you say you like kokichi in someway You apparently "dont get his FLAWED character" And please stop saying they aren't the same Kokichi is clearly trying to copy Nagitos formula Yes they aren't THE EXACT SAME but Kokichi is completely unoriginal And clearly based on Nagito the only difference people try to bring is that he wasn't actually crazy Yeah I get that but his actions throughout the whole gosh-darn game is crazy and then they try to pull he wasn't really crazy at the very END That is a load of bull I hope I cleared things up, and please let's be humble with each other now🤗

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@DLxxx EXPLAINING A BIT OF HIS PAST OR REASONS BEHIND HIS ACTIONS EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT IS NOT SPOON FEEDING YOU ANYTHING My opinion has changed a bit over time so dont come at me to much though Anyways it's hard for me to explain here. But aeris akamatsu posted a few vids on Kokichis writingbthat sums up how I feel Not to say that They're completely right. They make sense to me an I hope you watch it cause it's really thorough

[@antarcticabear6883]

Normal person: I have a terminal illness, I have better appreciate my final moments of life Nagito Komaeda:

[@user-wr6wh9it6b]

kaito momota:

[@blueflamingo4526]

@@user-wr6wh9it6b 💀

[@mrpenis3625]

@@user-wr6wh9it6b laity lived his life well I feel. and he died so beautifully I loved it! didn’t let junko/tsumugi under his skin! edit: wtf is laity? I meant kaito I’m sorry

[@user-wr6wh9it6b]

@@mrpenis3625 i loved it too actually

[@s.j.t6006]

The only thing the have in common is that they are antagonist. They are both two different characters with two different motives, behavior and personality. They both are my favorites 🥰🥰🥰

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

And chapter 5 death

[@iciarsoto8860]

And the bomb

[@uuaupa9288]

And that they mess with trials

[@s.j.t6006]

STOP YALL ARE MAKING ME LOOK LIKE A 🤡

[@nono7120]

And they both are super-highschool level gay for the protags

[@terukisuke5324]

Just finished V3 last night. I haven’t heard anyone mention this point, but I think Kokichi was further implied to care for Gonta because Gonta was always talking about little bugs. Kokichi made a schematic for a bug catcher, and had Miu actually make it. He doesn’t have super sight like Keebo does, so he wasn’t aware of all the cameras. So, my theory is that he came up with that design purely to make Gonta happy, which makes it more heartbreaking what he said at the end of Chapter 4 regarding his guilt.

[@davsr7789]

Just finished last night too, adding to that, he really made use of everyone else's talents, Gonta's curiosity for the graffiti, Miu's constant requests, Suichi's deductions skills... he made the game what it is

[@jaxon1670]

Yea, not to mention, before Gonta dies, he asks everybody to forgive each other and become friends. Guess what? In the next chapter, after Maki chokes Kokichi, he tells them all he sees them all as friends, even if they don’t think the same. He wanted to keep Gonta’s promise, and I think that shows how much he cared for Gonta. He deeply regretted his actions.

[@annastarlight]

He also volunteers to be sacrificed alongside Gonta. Knowing Kokichi, he wouldn't risk his life like this unless he was genuinely upset. He was paranoid as heck in every chapter up to this.

[@yay29823]

I like this idea a lot, but I doubt it's canon

[@oliverthomas-couch]

They both have iconic laughs

[@dreamani1335]

I personally find both their cases equally impressive. I love that Komaeda’s case was practically unsolvable while Oma managed to fool the cameras and Monokuma himself

[@resaldom]

All i saw was the thumbnail and thought it was a rap battle

[@BlueberrygummerGaming]

phew, i wasnt the only one

[@fluffkichi1512]

that’d be fire tho

[@igotnojamsd9155]

LMAOOO WHOT

[@juuchanIRL]

kokichi would win that though, he has a lot of disses to churn out, as seen in the trials with miu.

[@Adam-wg2rf]

She sould make one to be honest it will be so funny .

[@Roemii_]

YESS I’m tired of people saying they are so similar when they only are being antags

[@lollypopkween6909]

You get too much hate :(

[@rickjazzyroll]

Atua queen

[@Roemii_]

@@lollypopkween6909 ikr 😿

[@darkyagami3503]

@@lollypopkween6909 deserved

[@Roemii_]

@@darkyagami3503 what did I do wrong 😨

[@AmbiambiSinistrous]

I think you've done a great job of explaining why these two characters are so fundamentally different in terms of their function in their respective stories (Komaeda explicitly being a threat to the player's goals, Ouma covertly being an ally to the player's goals). It actually bothered me in v3 that the writing tried to establish superficial parallels between the two, and I think those parallels are part of why people try to compare the two despite the glaring differences. "Malice" was one of the key words used to describe Komaeda's Trial 5 murder plot, and it was supposed to illustrate the depth of his loathing for the Remnants of Despair. This even included himself, with him going so far as up torture himself for succumbing to despair in pursuit of absolute hope. Hajime feels it the instant he sets eyes on Nagito's corpse, without even knowing what happened yet. Komaeda's feelings towards despair are intensely personal, as his entire life and world view are shaped by his cycles of good and bad luck, and his fear of his own inability to control his talent and avoid the trauma that his bad luck brings. Despite his good intentions, destroying despair by killing his classmates is an incredibly harmful and malicious act. "Malice" is also used to describe the feeling Saihara senses from Ouma's murder scene. But it's not accurate in that context. Ouma wasn't trying to screw his classmates over by making an unsolvable murder - he was trying to save them. The farthest you could stretch it is that he felt "malice" towards the Mastermind and their game. But I don't think that kind of hatred is as absolute as what Komaeda felt towards the Remnants of Despair. Ouma's feelings towards the killing game are ultimately derived from a love and respect for humanity. We know from his motive tape that he just enjoyed having fun with pranks, and he was completely against killing. His motives are therefore far too wholesome to be described as "malicious". Like WeebyNews says in her video, Komaeda's's character arc is fairly static in DR2 compared to Ouma's. So many prefer Ouma as a character. But because Komaeda was such a strong rival, he made DR2 a better game than DR3.

[@mile7188]

I like to think it like this: Komaeda just likely explodes in the killing game, all hatred and impulses there, plus his illness, Despair being something he lived with ever since he was little, not wanting to hold back his emotions anymore, he decides to do something, that he thinks are good things, to let the others "shine" and efecctively save and let the traitor live, since they were the only good person in his eyes. now Kokichi is tore apart piece by piece, in a slow process, when the easiest way to end that, killing the mastemind, ultimately fails, he seems forced to try and save these people by himself, maybe a leader sense of duty, (for the people who said his title was just for decoration lol) , and he sees how his morals and values dont work here, he tries to avoid doing thing that would directly violate his ideals, but deciding finally, for the greater good, that he needed to. Despair overcaming him slowly, something he never felt before that, as he realices the only way to end that for good was dying. to sumarise, Komaeda was a time bomb while Kokichi's sense of duty pushed him to the edge.

[@kamisads8755]

I believe that Kokichi took on the role of the "villain" because everyone else saw him that way, so he used it to his advantage to try and stop the killing game. He used this factor to plunge everyone else into despair, but of course that didn't last long because of the mastermind. Nagito, however, isolated himself from the group as he believed that he was below everyone else, and his reveal of character in the first trial caused everyone else to distance themselves from him. This distance/isolation allowed him to move outside of the group and do his own things behind the scenes, furthering his drive behind his motive to kill everyone else in the end. Both characters helped the group in their own ways, while also working behind the scenes on their own schemes to affect the killing game/outside world. That's what I believe anyway

[@pee9636]

both were anti-heroes, and their morals were entirely different Nagito : sacrifice people for what he thinks is the greater good, hope Kokichi : try to protect as many people as possible, but sometimes sacrifices are necessary, Miu Gonta and even Kaito a bit (i dont think he expected Kaito to die)

[@anonanon7986]

Finally! Someone who actually understands Kokichi well.

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@anonanon7986 oh shut up. No one understands him. In fact it doesn't seem like you understand him because. The guy was going to get everyone to off themselves by revealing the truth and got two people killed in the process and more or less two others and kept pissing people off making them unsafe

[@667nine]

Yeah I agree tho I think it's a bit off. Nagito wouldn't just sacrifice for a greater hope since both endings are hopeful and despairful, if the killer survives the killing game ends and they can escape but that means everyone else died If everyone else survives, the killer dies but the killing game continues Nagito doesn't see Hope as "how many people survive" but rather "which person will see their hopeful ending more and which group would sacrifice more for this hopeful end and how much wouod they sacrifice" He doesn't value hope based on quantity, but rather on quality and how much a person or group would sacrifice to get that hopeful ending

[@pee9636]

@@667nine yeah, but by greater hope i mean the one that is better in his eyes, because i dont understand him very well

[@667nine]

@@pee9636 I don't think it's what "he" thinks as greater hope, he mostly just leaves it up to his luck or who triumphs in the end to get their happy ending In a way, I kinda agree with Nagito's line of thinking because in reality, even the blackeneds aren't really bad guys, they are just kids who want to escape the killing game and for them, escaping would be a happy ending It's grey and may seem wrong but honestly, can you blame them?

[@kdcanbarely]

Nagito is unique as his trauma/inferiority complex (due to the despair he faces from the negative sides of talent) are so apparent, and it's hard not to feel bad for him as a victim even when he seems "unhinged" and willing to put others at risk - Kokichi is more realistic in the way that he doesn't have any seemingly otherworldly trauma (that we know about), he simply has a personality type that disturbs the peace in order to create some kind of control. They're such different characters that honestly, I think I like their writing equally.

[@braydenanglesey650]

So did Nagito's backstory really happen or did it not? Did Nagito tell Hajime it was all a lie? I'm a little confused. Thank you.

[@pearbearrss]

Brayden Anglesey it's true he just didn't want Hajime to be close to him

[@bombaymessyasf]

While I do agree with you I still think Kokichi is kinda a rip-off of Nagito and Celestia, I do think he has characteristics that set him apart just not the length that would make me comfortable

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@braydenanglesey650 No, he told the truth. After all, he isn't Kokichi. Where we get no form of backstory whatsoever

[@moon4236]

@@bombaymessyasf dude just admit you don't like Kokichi and move on

[@cier__]

i honestly like ouma more, he feels much more complicated than komaeda. i love how questionable ouma's ideals are compared to komaeda who has a more black and white world view

[@ForrestFox626]

That sums up why I love V3 as a whole. It's the most complicated Danganronpa gets.

[@yanoizikawa770]

Yeah I agree with you.

[@yanoizikawa770]

@@ForrestFox626 same. V3 is better than the other 2 games in my opinion.

[@cier__]

@@ForrestFox626 i agree, i've never been so invested with danganronpa until v3

[@yayitsyuri]

oh my i agree so muchhhh ive invested more then 100 hours into v3 and i love kokichi so much because hes so hard to figure out its intriguing and he always keeps me entertained

[@eridanampora3024]

*finally a Worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!*

[@pastellxne8687]

indeed.

[@Eeyesablous]

No it's going to be legen... wait fooor it .... DIARY

[@wizardgeek3722]

Eridan you would snipe them out of existence

[@teamili7957]

Hope man🍀 vs. Grape Boi🍇 Who will win? Neither, because they are both different written characters with different emotions and intentions

[@agambarkan2416]

i would say......more BOTH

[@oxlae34]

EXACTLY

[@lollypopkween6909]

Rich boi would

[@anonanon7986]

@@lollypopkween6909 You mean Daddy Long Legs..?

[@Madadudajun]

@@anonanon7986 nah rich boy daddy

[@vrageanalyst2931]

I still wanna know how kokichi knew to have that script written and when he wrote it xD I guess maybe for an unused prank but it's still a funny thought.

[@feather9077]

He was planning his death after the second trial- originally he was gonna ask shuichi to help him but maki interfered

[@anonanon7986]

@@feather9077 I don't think he was planning to die. That was just a backup plan in-case things got worse.

[@jinnimoo]

Several days had passed from when Kokichi took Kaito into the hangar, he was working on the script and all the prep work while keeping Monokuma away by using the Exisals to monitor him. The fact the camera from the warehouse was already set up in the hangar is a huge indication that it was all planned in advance, and not a spur of the moment when Maki shot him. It's also implied that originally Kokichi wanted Shuichi to assist him if you recall their conversation in the virtual world when he suggested that they 'work together' and 'save everyone', and without Shuichi there is no way the case would have been solved.

[@anonanon7986]

@@jinnimoo Maybe he made it as a backup plan, but I seriously doubt that he had planned himself to die in his main plan. After all, he had already stopped the killing game when he tricked them into thinking he was the mastermind.

[@jinnimoo]

​@@anonanon7986 Whether Kokichi made his death mystery a 'back up plan' or not is hard to say, but what is for sure is that his plan didn't just end with him telling everyone he is the mastermind and have the game come to a halt. Kokichi's ultimate goal was to 'ruin' the game and one way of doing that is to prove it's illegitimacy and to force Monokuma into making a wrong decision and therefore puts the game's integrity into question for the audience. I personally think his plan wasn't just going to end with the mastermind reveal, after all he did take Kaito at the same time, so what was he going to do for the remainder of the game? hide in the hangar with Kaito forever? He likely took Kaito for two reasons, 1 to have him assist with the murder mystery (since Shuichi rejected his offer previously) or 2, to stop Kaito from acting irrationally (this was right after Kaito gathered everyone to fight Monkuma) so that Kokichi can prepare his plan without interruption. Of course Kokichi could have been hiding in the hangar with Kaito for an entirely different plan not involving his death which we will never know about.

[@terry_is_away]

I feel like they're both really well made characters, but as a antagonist, Nagito was way better. He didn't need any bullying, liying or stuff like that, just beeing himself did it. Idk how to explain this one, but Nagito has my whole heart and he's the best antag, in my opinion ofc

[@anken1429]

"I wasn’t boring, right?” OMG NOOO 😭😭

[@rasmusmalmberg6468]

Kokichi is fun and entertaining, but that's really where it ends for me. Nagito is a character that I will never forget and one I haven't really seen anywhere else.

[@livelaughnagito]

yes, exactly! kokichi is super funny and definitely one of my favorites in v3, but nagito is for sure my favorite character in any sort of anime/game. he is truly unforgettable.

[@nocturnal3427]

yeah, i think that's what it is for me. i love kokichi but he seems like the classic ENTP anti-hero who's funny and the fan-favourite, but turns out to have reasons for what they do. with nagito, there really aren't many characters like him at all. i love how unique his character is and how different he is to most.

[@bun3213]

@@nocturnal3427 my words exactly

[@rasmusmalmberg6468]

@@TJ_Sind2000 As if you couldn't literally make Kokichi do anything because "lol is it a lie or not lol" except Kokichi doesn't have a real ideology, or a real personality, or a real backstory, because literally anything he does or says is some Schrödingers bullshit. But yeah these are both well written characters. Just because a character is unpredictable or ambiguous doesn't mean they don't have real worth.

[@TJ_Sind2000]

@@rasmusmalmberg6468 sorry no, you can go back to kokichi's actions and look at them from different lenses, either "he's trying to destroy us" lense or the "he's actually trying to help us" lense, and if you use the same lense to examine them throughout they are consistent, this is not the same with nagito, where his concept is literally whatever he feels like and murdering a friend and protecting a friend are somehow both for the sake of hope, there is a ground for reasoning with kokichi's actions unlike with nagito's

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

“Do you have the time to talk about our lord and savior, Hope?” “...Yes.”

[@exilley2134]

Omg it’s you How long has it been since you’ve dipped

[@CaliGamer4321]

This video made me remember why I like Kokichi so much as a character and why I find Nagito so interesting. I do prefer Ouma, but that doesn't mean I dislike Komaeda; they are both very interesting characters in their own way.

[@lucetteriellabritton20yearsago]

Same, I prefer Kokichi as well

[@xnortheast1106]

Nagito better

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@xnortheast1106 *PREACH*

[@DLxxx]

@@bombaymessyasf In what way are they the same person? That's a very extreme statement based on surface level similarities (that don't run very deep).

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@DLxxx I know, I know (especially in Danganronpa) the surface level is a horrible way to analyze characters and I do think they are different but I just couldn't shake it out of my head that they are similar on the surface of course. I think Kokihci is just a mix of like BYAKUYA, CELESTIA, NAGITO honestly, but hes just has those differences it just goes unnoticed. Look at actions in chapter 5. And his villain like role. I mean that's a little different too but still. If you scratch the surface just a tiny bit with that in mind it might make a little sense, I hope.

[@bun3213]

With Nagito being my favorite character, you can already guess who, but Kokichi is also very interesting and I love how he set the tone for v3. He still felt a little flat to me and I didn’t have as much as a stronger connection than I had with Nagito. I felt like something was missing from Ouma and I didn’t know what.

[@bombaymessyasf]

I also think he feels hollow as a character for me, because 1. His actions attitude/demeanor is strikingly similar to Nagito to the point he feels like a rip-off 2. He kinda has no backstory to fuel his actions, which again makes it seem like they just copied and pasted him from Nagito

[@DLxxx]

@@bombaymessyasf His personality and demeanor is so different from Nagito's that this sentiment confuses me. Nagito was unstable, self depreciating, had consistent, unchallenged principles, was mostly static, and had no qualms opening up about his beliefs and history to Hajime. Kokichi on the other hand, was cryptic, childish (in demeanor), secretive, untrusting, believed he was the only person capable of stopping the killing game, and had visceral reactions (that ultimately caused him to change and develop his personality and temperament overtime, becoming more extreme and desperate) when his beliefs were constantly challenged. VERY different characters. The only similarity is that they both serve as antagonist/challengers to the protagonist (and Oma is FAR more of a rival/foil to Kaito than he is Shuichi, so even their dynamics aren't the same). Him not being given a proper backstory literally does nothing to make him more similar to Nagito, who has a fully fleshed out and developed backstory thT drives his every action. If anything that just objectively makes them more different. Kokichi's character must fundamentally be interpretted through his actions in the killing game (and the small hints we get to his past) alone, making him a character you actively need to decipher in order to then explore his layers within the scenes we see him. Whereas Komeada's actions and motives are clearly readable and defined by his background surrounding his luck cycle and trauma. So their very structure as characters is fundamentally different BECAUSE of Oma's hidden backstory.

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@DLxxx U know this, I know that they are still two different characters, and I loved that about the both of them so much. However I still cant shake the feeling that Kokichi was just supposed to be another Nagito. They both are antagonistic assholes who relish everyones misery They both got to people killed and tried to get several others killed And they both are just...welll... evil I'm sorry I know that seems weak but still. Byakuya has nothing on these guys but you still needed to keep an eye on him And in DR2 with Nagito they turned the villain up to eleven and in DRV3 they did do stuff different and the things that are different are good, but it still feels like they decided to keep the antagonist level high just like Nagitos. (I dont know if that makes sense) and of course we cant forget chapter 5's action with "The most unpredictable character doing something insane by having themselves killed". But all and all I still like both these characters and they are very different. But I still do get annoyed with how they pay to much attention to Kokichi (hes obviously the highlight of MOST of the trials) On account to other characters who need much more fleshed out development I get why he did what he did but I still dont like it. I honestly thought characters like Miu and Gonta should have survived

[@kyanna.]

@@bombaymessyasf I like to think that Tsumigi wanted to created a person similar to Nagito, Didn't Tsumigi mentioned that the team Danganronpa scripted everything, From the characters personality and everything??

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@kyanna. yeah probably

[@ecedeniz7602]

Now I feel like there's NO way I can choose between them. I mean it was super hard to answer that community poll, but now that you refreshed my memory I realized yet again that both of these characters are so well written and so different that I can never choose between the two

[@bombaymessyasf]

I'll have to disagree with you on different. Yes they do have differences that set them apart. But they still are very similar, and not in a good nor neutral way

[@pixxlea]

i love them both, they’re both 2 of my favourite danganronpa characters. but honestly i prefer nagito, he’s very well written always keeps you on the edge of your seat, he never settles for the good or bad side, always in the middle. it makes him interesting and unique, he’s so complex that you wouldn’t be able to unpack all of his layers even if you’ve been a fan since danganronpa 2 first came out. his plan is so well thought out that the only thing which gave it away was his luck, and chiaki basically admitting to it. You hate him at one point then sympathize with him when you understand his backstory and see why he’s doing this. he’s my favourite character in the entire franchise and probably one of my favourite characters in anime. of course, kokichi also shares a lot of the same characteristics, i prefer nagito’s character more. I’m more able to relate to him than i am to kokichi. I think the way he’s written makes it very clear what his motive is and his overall goal but at the same time it’s quite blurry so you never know whether he’s on the despair side or hope side. of course this is just my opinion i love both of them but just prefer nagito. you’re free to disagree with me respectfully. also super danganronpa 2 is my favourite one out of the 4 games so that’s probably another aspect as to why i prefer him.

[@blasboise5613]

I feel like Nagito’s luck extends even beyond death, helping the DR2 cast. This is a stretch, but what if after he died and everyone found out about his plan, later into the game everyone survives. His luck always goes from bad to good, examples including: - After a vacation a plane he was on was hijacked and a small meteorite would hit the plane, killing everyone there including his parents, would be the bad luck, but then from this he obtained an immense fortune and freedom as he put it, which is the good luck - He was kidnapped by a serial killer, which is the bad luck, but later released and found a lottery ticket to Hope’s Peak from where he was held, which was the good luck - He was diagnosed with many diseases, which was bad luck, but he survived past his life expectancy, which was the good luck Taking all this information, we see that he always has some ‘bad’ luck first, and that is later accompanied by some ‘good’ luck. So if we think about the fifth trial where he died, his bad luck could have been the others finding out about his plan, and they all survived, which was bad because Nagito wanted to kill them due to them being Remnants of Despair. But where was the good luck? In all his examples of luck, he always had good luck come after the bad luck. So what was the good luck? I believe the good luck would be from themed of the fifth trial to the end of the game, where the remaining players, Hajime, Akane, Fuyuhiko, Kazuichi, and Sonia, all escaped from the game alive and were no longer Remnants of Despair. It’s a bit of a stretch considering the fact that he actually wanted to kill them all except Chiaki in the fifth trial, but if we look at it with his ideology of hope, we could see the trial as, “a stepping stone” for hope. From this perspective, he wanted them to use him and the traitor to go forward towards hope. So in this case, it makes sense to say that Nagito’s luck could have affected the ending survivors even after his death, as he would consider their change from Remnants being ‘good’ luck. If you actually read this then I hope you have a great day and future! (Well even if you didn’t read this I still hope you do, but I can’t really tell you if you didn’t read it). #WeStanNagito (also Oma but this is about Nagito)

[@arix74]

I definitely agree, although with how his luck cycle works it could go on forever. For example him finding out they were remnants of despair was the bad luck, then him being able to successfully put his plan into action was the good luck, then them exploiting the plan was the bad luck, then the 6th trial was the good luck etc. That's why his luck cycle is so complex, because there's no definite start or end to it so it could be interpreted in many ways

[@georgearbuckle7029]

I feel like nagitos plan was genius and he went very far to make it the most hopeful ending he thought, but I feel like an underrated aspect of his trial is his policy was that "everything will work out in the end" thats understandable because he says this before his murder and it's not really mentioned again (its either in one of the videos or just talking to the characters about the bombs) which his ideology gave him comfort that even if his murder/suicide attempt doesn't work out, he believes good luck will come out of it. That's what redeems nagito in my eyes, for he really tried to do the right thing and even if he failed it would occur anyways.

[@mcihay246]

Always believed Shuichi, Kokichi and Kaito represented Truth, Lies, and Belief respectively instead of Kaito being Truth instead (in which that can't be right considering his beliefs tends to interfere with the truth). Shuichi, regardless if he lies, always aimed for the truth. Even if it hurts. Kokichi, is the personification of lies. Ambiguous in nature. Kaito, being a personification of belief. To stubbornly and unwaveringly believe in something, even if there's no clear indication if it's the truth or not.

[@tinyfacenagito930]

I'm way more evil, plus Imma bad bitch. Oma can catch this work.

[@chchchchia6889]

happy birthday

[@redziak1810]

Nagito does more wild stuff during the whole game while Oma starts slow and in the background and grows into the big boy in the second half of the game

[@arix74]

I absolutely love this video, because it shows how they are both amazing in their own ways, and while they both are antagonists it's pretty clear what aspects were focused on whenever you analyze their characters. I love whenever you make character analysis's, so thank you for making this one!

[@asdrashuet-doyle961]

Honestly, imo, the two characters really MADE the two games. Without them, the games would've been so far from what they are now

[@giboit.]

Komaeda does change his views during the story and more than he shows in chapter 4 though. But not exactly when it comes to how he sees luck or hope but rather due to how he sees talent (this aspect changes a lot actually). For context, In SDR2 he states that only talented people can become hope and because of this he stops respecting Hajime since he found out that he was just a talentless steeping stone used to create real talent (Izuru) and antagonize him and the others due to him discovering that they all fell into despair in the past, including him (which in his eyes meant that despite being talented, they weren´t worthy of being called symbols of hope and thinks that his luck is giving him a chance to redeem and turn himself into someone worthy of being called the Ultimate Hope by defeating the ultimate despairs. Thus why he tried to kill them all except Chiaki in chapter 5). However, this wasn´t always the case, in UDG it´s stated by him that he changed his views on talentless people after seeing how Naegi, a seemingly average guy with the same ultimate talent than him was able to overcome the despair and defeat Junko, the ultimate despair. This is in fact what led him to adapt the philosophy where he now thinks that hope is always found on the side of the weak and the underdogs and thus, even talentless people can become hope. Which was basically a huge part of the reason why she helped Monaca to set up Towa city´s massacre game, just to see Komaru (the talentless sister of Naegi, the guy who made him change his views) becoming hope. This mentally got wiped out when he got into the neo world program but he gained appreciation for this idea again after considering that his luck was giving him a change to become hope itself by fighting all the others that he found out were ultimate despairs. Just like you said, I think that the dangerous and "creepy" factor is what makes Komaeda win. They both have interesting mentalities and actions but the sense of danger that both characters transmit is way different. With Komaeda they had him tied up by chapter 2 just due to how insane he talked and acted right from the begining and he kept that sense of danger and insanity based on admiration and obsession towards hope and the ultimates through the whole game leaving to the other students very clear that he was willing to kill, instigate murders and be killed alone or along the others just for his beliefs. Kokichi also has a creepy and dangerous factor but it all gets a bit watered down by comparison due to half of his personality being clearly more on the side of a childish troll/jokester who´s words are not meant to be taken seriously all the time.

[@bombaymessyasf]

I completely agree with this, very well done. I kinda think that beyond the themes kokichi represents, he is pretty much a copy and past of Nagito. Like they wanted to recreate a mother psychopathic character beloved by the fandom, and they seem to win a little just by how many people like him, yet this is probably due to how complicated he is and how much of a funny brat he is, and the fact that he embodies a philosophical theme that's pretty interesting. But all and all I wasn't pleased with how he was presented

[@DLxxx]

@@bombaymessyasf Kokichi's NOT psychopathic though (this is a fact). He actively detested the idea of killing people and toying with their lives, showing he had a great degree of empathy and respect for humanity. That's why he hated the killing game so much. His guilt over not doing anything to prevent Keade's death ran so deep that he began to antagonize the rest of the cast in order to help them cycle out of Monokuma's killing game, and he almost had himself killed along with Gonta because he betrayed his own morals by having him kill Irumi. Nagito on the otherhand believed a killing would ultimately be necessary for to strengthen the other students, and was literally going to instigate the first kill if Teruteru and Byakuya hadn't interfered. And he viewed their deaths as just another stepping stone in his belief system. Also, he arranger to have all of the students including himself die, while the only person Kokichi was okay with killing in his final plan was himself. They are VERY different on a moral level. I really don't understand where this notion you keep bringing up is coming from (aside from the surface level similarities, which are very shallow).

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@DLxxx I'm sorry I dont believe that, please stop. Kokichi took advantage of Gontas desire to help everyone to kill the only person that cooperated with him, Miu. And he clearly never planned to let their plan go seeing as he straight up Told everyone who the killer was for the petty reason "shuichi lied to him" dont make it seem like it was some noble thing because if he wanted to help evryone so bad than he would have cooperated with them up the proper way It's not like it was necessary for him to get Miu and Gonta killed. They had the inventions to fight and only he deemed it necessary to sacrifice them. Probably so he would conflict without the idea he got them killed And I think his motive video is a poor way to try to justify things First off why would you need to specify a "Clown band" having a code of "No killing" what clown band does. They carry out harmless pranks The least they should do is specify nothing too violent Instead of No killing, like, how did we even get there. They're trying a little two hard with that is all And like I said j believe they are still pretty similar in terms of their roles in the game as the villain being turned up to eleven Yes they are different I just cant shake the feeling that Kokichi along with being the personification of the themes is just another Nagito yo relish everyones misery. I know they have a different moral standpoint. Also you do agree with me on them being similar on the surface level correct? I know its shallow. And I didn't take him for a nagito until like a little later on

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@DLxxx I know I'm being a little shallow and all but I still stand by the idea that the writers were like "Oh you hated Byakuya well wait until we show you the next guy" "Oh wait you liked him well let's give you guys another crazy one" Honestly that's my head canon I like kokichi but in the end I don't agree with things that he (and nagito) did and I don't think there is any shame in expressing that, especially since these characters are interesting to talk about I know Kokichi isn't a crazy evil psycho but he was still selfish, selfish but had 'GoOd' intentions

[@noire664]

I prefer Nagito a lot more than Kokichi. The fact that he was willing to go so far to fulfill his ideals, torturing himself so nonchalantly and creating *such* a genius murder mystery all play a role in why he id more favorable. I was honestly very shocked when Chapter 1 almost made him the culprit, and it turns out throughout the rest of the game that he isn't the Kyoko for DR2. Another persona thing is that I prefer his chemistry with the rest of the cast more. Because despite how hated he was, they still depended on him at times and he helped efficiently. I also didn't really understand what "The Supreme leader" talent even meant to begin with...

[@evvdmistr]

kokichi points out during a certain after scene with kaede i assume that he agrees with her after she suggests he should have been given the title ultimate liar instead of supreme leader

[@tarot1361]

I really don't like Kokichi. He was a huge discomfort character for me. I will always prefer Komaeda

[@alfasvirtuosos1981]

I personally think that his ultimate supreme leader talent was a villain view of ultimate supreme leader: being able to mislead other's.

[@alfasvirtuosos1981]

@@evvdmistr yeah but remember that in his motive video monokuma confirm that he's talent is the ultimate supreme leader, since monokuma always tells the right talent (like maki motive video who confirm her as the ultimate assassin other than the ultimate child caregiver)

[@mintytrash]

I remember when I first reached chapter 5 of SDR2, I had to turn it off after seeing Nagito's body. I was in really bad denial. :( It's super interesting in chapter 5 of V3, about not knowing the victim. It was done super well. Still, I like Komaeda better overall (because I had that immediate reaction of, "no way! He can't be dead! It has to be a lie..." it's the only death in the whole series I reacted to like that.)

[@trearoos]

I was in denial too. During the investigation, I had to take a deep breath and say, "Calm down Chloe, you can do this..." before examining his body.

[@whybiemydudez_yt]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT!!! I'M TELLING YOU

[@iceprism367]

I honestly don't think either character is objectively better than the other, they are both amazing to me, the way they are each written serves their individual purposes almost perfectly.

[@rkformat]

After realizing that Nagito has lymphoa or however you write it, I think he's more realistic. I like kokichi more though, cause he can be normal, crazy and stuff. Hes pretty dope. Hes not my favorite though, I think Gundham stands up of them. WAYY far.

[@Grizzlymoo._.]

I personally prefer Kokichi. I feel like he was able to keep everyone on their toes throughout the game. He was difficult to figure out and that was what made him interesting in my opinion. Komaeda was a great character too. I liked how we knew things about his past and were able to connect the dots. However all in all, I think Kokichi was definitely a better antagonist because of how much he screwed with things. We were also able to see how Kokichi's personality meshed with other characters because essentially he was a very social character. His lies at times were unprecedented but necessary. I also loved how Kokichi didn't only have a major "betrayal" at the end. Nagito didn't really do very many bad things until around the last trial he was in. When Kokichi started becoming more active he stayed that way. His twists were more sporadic but consistent while the other two antagonists only had one or two moments. Sorry if this is a bit repetitive- Also, sorry this was so long pwp Don't get me wrong, I love Nagito as well-

[@yanoizikawa770]

Yeah I completely agree with you. I also prefer kokichi. In addition I liked kokichi more because of his troll personality. I found him more entertaining. Also the fact that he was able to play with the game's mechanics was just amazing

[@cookieyum2030]

You said komaeda didnt really do anything up to chapter 5. He literally tried to kill someone on chapter one.

[@pringlesman222]

Ngl, I read it as KOKICHI VS OMA for way too long

[@floralfox]

Oh shit me too-

[@the_odd_magician]

I-

[@otakupower1048]

I love Komaeda so much, like ive never seen a character like him hes so different and complex and always has me thinking. I never know if I love him or hate him. Idk hes just a way better character to me, kokichi is alright tho.

[@kingserpentsea]

Ah finally, the Komaeda and Ouma video. I’ll be excited to see what you say about this topic. Edit: I’ve watched the video, and I have to agree with your reasoning. Although, poor Togami, he always gets left out. Komaeda was the perfect “villain” character, but Ouma was a more “humanized” character. It fits the theme of dr2 being more wacky and nonsensical since it’s a virtual world vs the entertaining yet realistic v3 world.

[@pedrolikesgummies]

V3 isn’t the “realistic” world. Since they are both in virtual worlds. V3 is way more wacky then V2 since it contains “ultimate” labs the Mono-Cubs and the glass caged. I do agree that V3 has the same atmosphere as V1 but V2 has a more sadistic tone and it has a tropical island. Which is my realistic and no while V3 has a huge glass cage with fake buildings and a school in the middle of no where.

[@pedrolikesgummies]

They gave a more of the first game, (the first game was the most realistic) and were similar including V3xxxx.

[@kingserpentsea]

@@pedrolikesgummies V3 isn’t a virtual world, it’s up to interpretation. And I interpret it as not a virtual world. And yes, the world is wacky. What makes the world “real” are the participants and their coping mechanisms and feelings. By “entertaining yet realistic”, I meant that the entertaining parts (the wackiness) contrasted the realistic emotions and struggles. Also don’t use “V” for the other games unless you’re talking about Danganronpa 51 and 52.

[@Sianistic]

Personally prefer Oma ... While twisted his belief-system and actions makes sense within his morality (and struggle with compartmentalizing his action in Act 4). Meanwhile Komaeda's believes is never endingly static and so alien that they might as well be graded on the Blue-Orange Scale, with the only relation with the rest of the world is reusing of 'Hope' and 'Despair' labels and classification methods

[@yanoizikawa770]

Yeah I agree

[@aviraes]

it’s true that komaeda’s values are so uniquely a product of the danganronpa world and narrative the game establishes but i’d argue his character’s relation to the world extends beyond redefining its initial concepts of hope/despair, but to the meta narratives and the ramifications of the toxic mentality perpetuated by hope’s peak academy (this is explored with hajime as well)

[@lotus5981]

Personally I enjoy both characters but for me nagito wins by a long shot, I relate to nagito which may not be a good thing but his view of himself and the world are things I can really relate too, I can’t understand when people say nagito is unrelistic as I identify and relate to almost every part of his character and understand and agree with his actions. Although I do relate with kokichis trust issues and I myself am a pathological liar and I do enjoy Kokichi I just don’t feel as strongly to him, nagito is just such a beautiful complex character and I absolutely love his two sides of being either kind or rude and I do love his plan I find it incredibly entertaining. I just feel more strongly towards nagito and love his personality more then Kokichi although I do love him

[@micah459]

I personally like Oma more but Komaeda is a better written character.

[@kiziemizie]

sadly

[@lulooper]

I would prefer Komaeda more. But I wouldn't fight anyone that says Kokichi has more depth in terms of humanity. Small world.

[@jaxon1670]

@@bombaymessyasf stfu bro 💀💀

[@anwar9109]

No one is better written character then the other in my opinion, they have different perspectives and different characters so we can’t compare them to that

[@tj_sarina8512]

About being well written, it is a little up to an individual's preferences, some people see good writing in a character with more info and back story, but some other might find good writing in how mysterious a character is so they can analyze them more

[@originalgangster6963]

What I love about kokichi is how the game left a lot of aspects of his character up to interpretation by the player. It’s very easy to argue that he had good or bad intentions and that just makes him so interesting because each person can interpret him in a unique way without being “wrong”

[@itsgaylebitxh]

I love how Kokichi always antagonizes Kaito. They're both strikingly similar, and I didn't like Kaito. Technically, he doesn't act logically, and Shuichi HAD to side with Kokichi to prove Gonta killed Miu. Nagito hanging out with Hajime and talking about his talent was fun. Hajime is my favorite protagonist, so Nagito has a warm place in my heart.

[@bw2544-o7t]

I think that's one of the reasons I do like Kaito because, even in dire situations, not everyone thinks logically. It was very human of him.

[@itsgaylebitxh]

@@bw2544-o7t I don't like the idea that being logical is inhuman.

[@bw2544-o7t]

@@itsgaylebitxh it's not. Both are human reactions which is why I don't fault him or Shuichi for doing what they did because both responses made sense.

[@itsgaylebitxh]

@@bw2544-o7t You said it was very human for him to be illogical.

[@bw2544-o7t]

@@itsgaylebitxh yes. It was very human of Kaito in a way where it humanized him more for me/made him more relatable. It reminds me of Aoi (and later Maki).

[@gwynmarie713]

I agree with your Analysis Weeby! I love Nagito as an antagonist and I think his trial was way better than Kokichi's but I personally prefer Ouma because I loved his character and his ideals of TruthvsLies. He just felt more realistic to me compared to Nagito's HopevsDespair ideal. But at the end of the day, I love both of them Soo much🤍💜 they _definitely_ made Both their games interesting in many ways✨👀

[@yanoizikawa770]

First: hi again!😂 Second: as always I agree with you. I just found kokichi's character a bit more entertaining to me but I live them both a lot.

[@gwynmarie713]

@@yanoizikawa770 first: OMG fr is it me or are we always fated to meet whenever Kokichi is involved? Lol😂 It's Soo nice to see you Yano. Second: Yeah! And it's so sad we're part of the minority who love Kokichi. Anybody who has played/watched v3 can admit he's what always made v3 interesting. His sassy and mischievous persona kept me entertained lol💜

[@nocturnal3427]

my two cents is that really... they're fundamentally different characters (that i both love). what's really clear is their drive. nagito is driven by his ideals - his philosophy on the world and people. his motives come from a person place of passion and make him at his core a very wistful and reflective person. we can see his romantically philosophical outlook in life especially in UDG; he uses a lot of melancholic-sounding metaphors too. this perception has made his morals unlike that of what's acceptable, which is why he is portrayed as an 'antagonist'. kokichi doesn't have as much drive nor incentive (which is why he influences the killing game less). he instead is just a character with no qualms making himself appear as the 'villain' or to be non-conforming, especially for the sake of amusement. this makes him a bit more lacking in morals than the rest of the cast, which is why he is portrayed as an 'antagonist'. it seems as though kokichi is loved for his entertainingness. he is arguably THE funniest character and that makes him very fun. he is also probably loved for how he still retains an essence of relatability, which makes people sympathise with him and probably view him more like a character they'd want to be friends with. as for nagito, people who like his character most likely do for his uniquenes and complexity (which often goes dismissed as most people dismiss whatever nagito says as nonsense with no meaning behind it) or how integral he is to making sdr2's plot interesting. some may also like him for his passion too, and how strong his character is. [personally, i don't like when people call characters 'realistic' when really they mean extremely unusual. i wouldn't say komaeda is unrealistic; i'd say he's extreme, while kokichi is a more encounterable personality.]

[@PrincessAmanda2290]

I like Oma better, but Komaeda had one of the best Trials in the series

[@SerenitySpiderMonkey]

Nagito is way better imo. Kokichi actually made me miss Nagito during v3 to the point I think I actually cheered when he appeared in ch6

[@rosymaze]

*Picks a nice photo of Komeda and one of the most wack photos of Ouma* Me: “your really gonna do my guy dirty like that?”🎲

[@OseiTheWarriors]

Komaeda for me, that being said I hope we have more of these comparison videos in the future they're really well written.

[@tj_sarina8512]

I think i cannot prefer anyone over another, but i wanted to say that imo, kokichi was a more realistic character, while nagito was more fictional but both of them are really well written

[@heather-sj2pi]

Unbelievable nagito stuff: his luck and how it affects him and ppl around him, everything possible about hope, how his ideals affect him, his actual ideals, willingness to put his life on the line to achieve his (twisted) ideals Unbelievable kokichi stuff: personality type, has a whole ass secret organisation at like 16(?) w 10,000 members, ability to lie so well and convincingly, ability to manipulate, willingness to put his life on the line to help others Idk man theyre both pretty unrealistic but I'm mad biased towards nagito so oh well. Kokichis cool tho and I wish the survivors could truly recognise the extent of what he did for them

[@tj_sarina8512]

@@heather-sj2pi i see! Nice! i had forgotten about my comment here 😂 and well i usually don't assume things but are you here after dear Aeris akamatsu's video? Anyways, i kinda agree but i think i didn't make myself clear. By realistic i do not necessarily mean humane. What i mean by realistic is how he was one of the only characters who really knew that the situation is dangerous and they are not getting out of it with the power of friendship. And i think i really shouldn't be arguing about how the whole organization thing was a lie 😂😂😂

[@heather-sj2pi]

@@tj_sarina8512 nah dude I didn't watch the video, but watched one similar with the same concept. Ah I get what you mean sorry lol I misunderstood what you meant by realistic. And yeah for the organisation bit i meant like kokichi died thinking DICE was real, right? (I can't really remember but i think he died before that flashback light) so like he thought it was within reason for himself to be able to lead such an organisation if that makes sense. Idk I think I misunderstood ur og comment

[@wigglepiplup6418]

Amazing video Weeby. Been a fan of yours for a while, and was so excited to hear this videos idea. my two faves. its so hard to choose, but i gotta go with kokichi

[@yanoizikawa770]

I went with kokichi as well

[@barbiesplasticp7872]

This is relatively unrelated but I honestly didn't like Kaito as much as other player's did. In the end, I found that he (much like Kaede) believed his own morals and beliefs to be in the right, and thus forced them on others. When people reject his own beliefs he then believes them to be 'naive' or in the wrong, refusing to see things from the perspective of others. I suppose that he was purposely written like this though.

[@fIorapetals]

I really enjoyed this analysis! It was fun to see someone properly compare and contrast their characterisation. Good job ^.^

[@nocturnal3427]

random but is something i've noticed is that younger fans and ones newer to the series prefer kokichi (and their favourite game is v3), while a lot of the older fanbase prefer nagito (and their favourite game is sdr2). i think overall kokichi is a more popular - as in well liked, not well known - character though.

[@sus9132]

yeah like for real I haven't heard about Danganronpa 1 and 2. I've watched v3 last year and watched 1 2 and udg this year. And it just made sense really.

[@lulooper]

Yes. I hope that the newer fans watch the elder series-- It's better to start from the beginning.

[@sugarstuff6064]

how did you know dat

[@sugarstuff6064]

that is correct for me

[@whytho1534]

But i thought Kokichi was the most popular character in danganronpa as in how well known they are. Sure,he's hated by a lot of people(although not as strongly as Nagito)but his popularity outside of the fanbase is wayy stronger then Nagito's the only person that can compare to his popularity is Junko but even then i feel like Kokichi's overtaken her

[@doodooprofusely7142]

I cant choose they were both amazing characters in my opinion. It’s hard for me to compare them since the games messages they tried to portray were so different. But yea 🦧

[@evankrueger7321]

Tbh the real vilian of V3 is Shuichi for not having the balls to go in the girls bathroom and look around. IYKYK

[@kaitoeiscool]

he DID actually in chap 6 :D

[@evankrueger7321]

@@kaitoeiscool yea Ik I just meant during the first investigation. You know… like any good detective would have.

[@kaitoeiscool]

@@evankrueger7321 i mean, detective or not you gotta be respectful man :/ Maki literally was going to heat the shit out of him when he came out 😀

[@evankrueger7321]

@@kaitoeiscool I think the fresh corpse would be enough motivation to have a professional mindset.

[@kaitoeiscool]

@@evankrueger7321 eh true \_😕_/

[@JomoOval]

Another thing i like about Nagito's murder plan was that it had the exact odds of the Russian Roulette game he did in the Final Dead Room. 6 Students, one of which is the Blackened. 6 bullets, one of which is empty. Thought it was a really cool parallel

[@SuperBatSpider]

One thing I want to say is I doubt Hope vs Despair is the theme of the 2nd game I think it’s past vs future. Most killers in the game kill with a past related motive (Ghundam is an exception but he’s cool so that’s fine) 1:Nothing in the game convinced him, a memory convinced him. 2:While she could have moved forward and gained a friend she decided to act their past way. 3:Got an illness that returned her to her ultimate despair self 5:Rather than look to the future and try to reform ultimate despair he decides to try to kill them all

[@itsari1290]

I will say I do pefer Kokichi because he feel more human and in my eyes he more of a well written character. But I do get why you do pefer Komaede.Any way love da vid ! :3

[@yanoizikawa770]

I prefer kokichi as well

[@koolaidcat]

Yeah, I prefer Kokichi too.

[@anonanon7986]

KOKICHI SUCKS, I PREFER NAGITO! IT'S A LIE!

[@koolaidcat]

@@anonanon7986 Cries in Kokichi Kin- *Oh wait-*

[@anonanon7986]

@@koolaidcat GOT 'EM!

[@alethealarrad-tye3299]

as someone who disliked both characters, watching this (and rewatching both games) helped me appreciate them more. I think I prefer Kokichi overall because he was more realistic, but Nagito is definitely better as an antagonist

[@notaboo7]

My three boys: Nagito, Kokichi, and Sou Personal rankings: Kokichi, Sou, Nagito. (from best to worst)

[@acelittlefire]

mine would be in this order: Sou, Nagito, Kokichi

[@aspnn]

i personally would put sou first because i think he's well written and pretty original but i respect your opinion, they're all great!

[@notaboo7]

@@aspnn i just like kokichi more because Sou is a little bit less prevalent in the story in chapter 3 and i hope that he gets more screentime. It does feel a little unresolved with him

[@yanoizikawa770]

Omg I agree with you so much. I love the 3 of them a lot and the best to worst for me is the same as yours.

[@notaboo7]

@@yanoizikawa770 lol

[@mori6905]

Yeah they both are good but I prefer Kokichi he's a little more likeable In my opinion

[@xaesthetictoes4179]

i agree

[@yanoizikawa770]

Yeah I agree

[@Keiiran]

I like them both equally

[@rayiichi7106]

It would be cool if you made another comparison video like this, maybe with kyoko and chiaki.

[@rank1562]

Those are two different characters?

[@THEREALebronJames]

Maybe Shuichi and Kyoko. They're more alike than Chiaki and Kyoko

[@denitrareese6005]

@@rank1562 um oma and komaeda not the same but weeby still did it

[@rayiichi7106]

@@rank1562I know that, I said kyoko and chiaki because both are supporting characters

[@rank1562]

@@rayiichi7106 oh ok I get it now

[@sandwraith448]

What a fight. I absolutely love these two but I'm in team Nagito. I just found him more sympathetic and imo he done better job at being moraly gray character

[@K2MusicKSquare]

Both are great characters. I just love both a lot. However, the question I would like to know the answer is, if they both are in the same class trial and having a rebuttal showdown, who will win?

[@sxft_zora]

Maybe oma idk is just a guess

[@venor2612]

Tsumugi

[@shortfreak761]

i honestly love them both but if i had to choose one i would pick Nagito i love the creepy sensation that surrounds him, his obsession with hope is really intriguing and i also love his backstory

[@sebastianlaso8346]

yesss its about time this video was really good

[@rustyroast24]

I don't know if there is much info for this, but Akane vs. Asahina would be interesting for me. (Also if you plan to do another character analysis I recommend Maki ^_^)

[@anonymoususer9197]

I think it's up to preference but I think hina would win easily because of chapter 4. Akame never really got such a moment, sadly.

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

Can we stop inventing backstories for characters that don't have them? People actually take this "Kokichi comes from a broken home" stuff at face value

[@akiakichan]

its fun to think up a backstory that makes sense for your favorite characters, but i agree that people need to be more explicit when saying that its a headcanon

[@thesinn8716]

Really loved this video

[@foogles1526]

in the plan thing I like more Kokichi's it aligns more with the theme of the game because he had to thrust Saihara to not help Monokuma discover the truth and ultimately lie but mystery wise Komaeda's plan is so interesting

[@michaelmilam7285]

I think the reason I like Kokichi more than Nagito is because Nagito comes off a lot more driven by his own ideology. And while that is a good driver to his character and the story at large his character seems to be almost entirely driven by that. Kokichi on the the other hand while lying is a part of who he is is not the entirety of his person. He will use lying to get what he wants whether that be to prevent his own murder or end the killing game but those lies aren't done for the sake of lying but rather for his own goals and wants.

[@ayoshi5616]

I personally like Komaeda more, but v3 was a better written game in general, so I understand why people might like Kokichi more

[@st2rgirl_]

EARLY AND I ENJOY UR VIDS WEEBY 💜

[@hensku.3000]

This video made me realize again how much I really appreciate the two characters. They are so well written and my two absolute favorites

[@jimmymcgill7370]

Kokichi is the subject of my nightmares slightly more often than Nagito but that’s probably just because he has the creepier sprites 😂

[@TheBasedTyrant]

I was playing persona 4 with my Dad and he said that he kind of agreed with the killer's speech about how some people are just born with talent, and I was like oh boy I know what series we need to play next. At first I was skeptical about showing him Danganronpa because the Hope vs Despair conflict can seem rather philosophically shallow and turn some people off to the series, but now I just got to see what he thinks about the series that plays the anime trope of talent making equality impossible as a motivation for villains to death.

[@shamalaymugunthan7914]

I love both of them so much. I like Nagito more, but not by much. Nagito definitely is my favorite character, but Kokichi is third while Byakuya stands at second. I just find them so, SO interesting and they honestly deserve the hype. It makes me so happy when people like Kokichi, and same when people like Byakuya and Nagito. They are ALL so different.

[@lianabahri800]

FINALLY!! the video that everyone was waiting for!!

[@InumiDarkness]

I prefer Kokichi because he's subtle about what he's doing. He understood so early what was going on and understood that not hidding it like Kaede or Rantaro did will only kill him. Also, he's not the Supreme Evil Leader because of his organisation, he have this talent because he lies so much that he can manipulate people into almost doing whatever he wants them to do. He LEADS them to what he wants them to believe with the power of his lies. There's so many moments where it's evident that he's a good guy. Like when he lied about killing Angie in chapter 3 to trigger the murderer. It's just that nobody really understood him and tried to learn more about him. And that he did everything he could to make people believe he's evil so he can end the killing game. He wanted to give the survivors as much tools as he possibly could so they discover the truth. And sadly, he had to manipulate Gonta into killing Miu cause she didn't let him have a choice. He wouldn't be able to stop her himself because of the code and nobody except Gonta would have tried to help him. So he set him up and used his death to make the others believe that he's truly evil. Even better: because nobody were doing anything because he made them do so, the mastermind had to invent a lie so everybody else tries killing him. And this lie is what actually made the entire mastermind's plan go to waste. Just by making a flashback light telling that he's a remnant of despair and the discovery of his motive video deconfirming it, it made everybody understood that the flashback lights aren't real memories. And he barely gets any credits for this. Sorry for the long comment. I just absolutely love Kokichi's character and I'm sad my boy doesn't get as much understood as most of the other characters.

[@laiaal.3324]

That was so well explained! What you said is why I think his character is geniusly written and the fact that most people (in and out of the game) don't see all his manipulations just tells you how good and subtle he really is. It was so sad to me that in the game, even after he dies for them, they do not recognise that he was trying to help and keep blaming him.

[@KerberosV3]

You're an absolute hero but also a madman for making a comparison video between these two, considering what the fandom is like lmao.

[@jg2961]

Because of this video. . Kokichi just jumped from a neutral/like char to one of my fave char in dr franchise. . He is so complex and human and smart

[@CrazyEmilykitty]

7:28 On the topic of themes. I think that every danganronpa main series game (and despair girls) has a kind of theme that they mainly focus on, besides the overarching theme of hope and despair (except maybe the first game). Like Danganronpa 2 focuses on Past and Future. Danganronpa v3 focuses on Truth and lies. Ultra despair girls has a couple different themes like fear, friendship, betrayal, and morals.

[@morrisginzburg1978]

Taking out their roles in the story and theme, just thinking of how I felt about them during the game, I thought kokichi was much more interesting. I always waited to hear his funny and rude insight during the trials and every other time. His interactions and relation to the other cast felt more intriguing at least to me than Komaeda's, who was clearly the outsider of the group.

[@Ace_Maus]

You have the exact same opinions on both of them that I do! Awesome

[@seidabored167]

So to sum this up, You prefer Komaeda as a better antagonist than Oma, but you prefer Oma as better character than Komaeda

[@kittykake44]

On the topic of the themes of the games, I think one way to look at it is this: Each game incorporates the previous games' themes but also adds their own. THH introduces the theme of Hope and Despair. SDR2 runs with the theme of Hope and Despair and expands upon it but also introduces the theme of Future. V3 adds the themes of Truth and Lies aswell as Fiction.

[@d..b5490]

Both of them are my favorite characters from their games but if I had to compare them, I'd say that I find Komaeda interesting and thought provoking while I find Ouma sympathetic and comforting

[@bun3213]

Me, but the opposite of what you said. 👍