To add on to Kazuichi’s development, I feel like he would start being insanely protective over Hajime after Gundham died.
@goldenwitherphoenix13894 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@LLG4IaxyLL4 жыл бұрын
True, they were friends in the game.
@kingeddy79664 жыл бұрын
He's Kazuichi,remember
@wpjmurray4 жыл бұрын
The Dude907 yeah,but without Sonia he would probs become depressed, then he would become friends with gundham, then he would become kinda even more depressed after chapter 4, then, because Kazuichi was friends with Hajime, they would become protective because his potential friend and love interest died. Alothough, I’m not going after the video here, except for the Sonia death thing, so this is what I would feel what happened.
@unfiniche4 жыл бұрын
That's....depressing and adorable at the same time.
@aricaine50244 жыл бұрын
The Sonia, Tanaka, Soda deal isn't even a love triangle. I call it a love lollipop. Sonia and Tanaka share mutual feelings, creating a circle, while Soda is the third wheel forever stuck in the outskirts, with an unreciprocated line connected to Sonia.
@zira__82604 жыл бұрын
True lmao
@moneybxndz1614 жыл бұрын
yikess 😬
@sambanjo4 жыл бұрын
this
@Wince_Media4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I'm pretty sure only Kazuichi hates gundham, while Gundham just doesn't have an opinion on him and doesn't care
@mekkisnuts9984 жыл бұрын
@Pippa Drummond well, they aren't dead and they're still getting shipped.
@AtChiaPet4 жыл бұрын
We sadly could not have *two* small people with great character development survive
@skelebonerrr4 жыл бұрын
Who are you talking about?- *sUdDeN rEaLiSaTiOn*
@joythecat19504 жыл бұрын
I legit see you everywhere DanganChia -Bijuu Mike -Weebiz news -multiple random videos about Danganronpa And now here its unreal
@AtChiaPet4 жыл бұрын
Joythecat yeah I’m sorry about that. I just like to hang around the community and whatnot
@joythecat19504 жыл бұрын
@@AtChiaPet I am not mad or anything just kinda suprised XD
@AtChiaPet4 жыл бұрын
Joythecat lol ofc
@naturallyexcessive4 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing the contingency plan for when Giant Hiyoko inevitably escapes the void and comes to feast on our souls
@Melecie4 жыл бұрын
nice prediction
@msgarmar4 жыл бұрын
Your pfp is extremely fitting for this comment
@lolz._.87024 жыл бұрын
I like your profile pic 😂😂🤣
@ringyz4 жыл бұрын
@Porkchopsrock12 Tenko hater. I'm going to *c r y* now.
@goldenwitherphoenix13894 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing how Hiyoko and Kazuichi could of had improved chadacter arcs by killing one different character.
@goldenwitherphoenix13894 жыл бұрын
Yep. I was 90% right.
@MoskHotel3 жыл бұрын
If Sonia had died, that would stop Kazuichi from being a total simp.
@goldenwitherphoenix13893 жыл бұрын
@@MoskHotel Yeah. And hed have some proper character development.
@Megizo4 жыл бұрын
Fact that Sonia survived whole killing game is good twist imo. When I met her and saw that she's ultimate princess I was sure she will become a victim. Kinda reversed Rantaro situation.
@ShinyShilla4 жыл бұрын
Much like BijuuMike with Souda
@trash_panda94004 жыл бұрын
@@ShinyShilla didn't he think hiro was the culprit from chapter 3 onward?
@jigglypuff4524 жыл бұрын
Sonia gave me obvious survivor vibes
@mrmikeyrobin3 жыл бұрын
@@ShinyShilla What an obvious idiot it was so freaking obvious that Celes was the culprit even my 5 year sister could immediately see her as the culprit. So I'm definitely not surprised he thought Hagakure was the culprit of chapter 3 and Souda as the victim.
@ShinyShilla3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmikeyrobin You... you on something? Souda was in DR2 not in the first one. My comment was made time ago, when Bijuu would blame almost always Souda over every murder or he really wanted him to BE the dead one. In a way or another. And surprise Souda never killed nor died
@alieenzz4 жыл бұрын
I wanna see Hiyoko diss Junko when she comes :(
@rorystrachan61883 жыл бұрын
Junko = Ultimate PIG BARF
@fluffjuice57433 жыл бұрын
@@rorystrachan6188 Hiyoko: You nasty little ultimate pig shit! I'd rather live with Mikan the pig barf than spend 5 second with you!
@-irene-293 жыл бұрын
i wanna see hiyoko discover her grown up picture :(
@Bunnyleadd3 жыл бұрын
@@KingKeaton777 you get vibe checked by hiyoko
@SleepingLittleOwl2 жыл бұрын
“Oh my gosh! What is that ugly ASS *THING?* It even looks worse than Mikan!”
@n00dl3gal4 жыл бұрын
My original comment was gonna be explaining how I see Mikan's canon execution, but then I saw the Robbie Rotten meme in the video, so I'm gonna rewrite it. A better execution for Mikan would be a botched surgery. Monokuma is operating on her and hurting her in various unpleasant but ultimately non-lethal ways. We don't see the exact surgeries, but we can see her reactions and her blood splurting out. Eventually it looks like Monokuma will finally finish her off, but instead he walks away, leaving her to bleed out. A monitor flatlines in the BGM. The point is her breakdown is a lot of fun to voice
@cows_on_a.picnic4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I thought the same thing! But i thought instead of blood we can see the shadow of her like, guts or smt, being pulled out behind one of those panels that are in hospitals that light can go thru. My vesion *might* be a bit too gory for danganronpa, but cartoony-like sausage link looking guts coulndt be that bad
@niko-dg8cg4 жыл бұрын
@@cows_on_a.picnic jesus christ
@gege11783 жыл бұрын
@@cows_on_a.picnic it is cool but as you said too gory for danganropa
@dylantrobaugh49993 жыл бұрын
Surgeon simulator in real life
@nevergonnagiveyouup11802 жыл бұрын
This is brutal and I like it. But I do think it should play into mikan’s insecurities more
@bawdydaram81144 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Souda would also resent Hiyoko HEAVILY for having inadvertently causing Sonia’s death. Just thought about that
@bawdydaram81144 жыл бұрын
Or maybe I missed it. If I did I apologize
@ack72954 жыл бұрын
And now i realize the missed opportunity of developing Hiyoko and Fuyuhiko's dynamic into a bickering sibling rivalry that secretly supports the other Damn you, kodaka
@Stinkymf4 жыл бұрын
*oh god now i want that more than development for hiyoko*
@cottonii_3 жыл бұрын
THIS
@fisheywashington18793 жыл бұрын
@@Stinkymf don't misuse Father God's beautiful name
@cl0udy3334 жыл бұрын
Me : They're obviously gonna say Souda should've died What they actually said : Sonia Me : :0
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
*they're *they
@martinmelanopaz69254 жыл бұрын
To be honest I expected the same thing, I really like Souda and Hajime as total bros, but I wouldn't have minded for Souda to be replace by someoen else eithier
@frenchfries29984 жыл бұрын
Martin Melano Paz the thing is the game always has someone stupid survive. Hagakure and souda. In the third game no cause there was 3 survivors
@martinmelanopaz69254 жыл бұрын
@@frenchfries2998 I know, and thats a shame really, if someone stupid MUST survive, then let them have some growth at least! With Souda they already siad what they could have done with him, amd Hakagure...why did he survived in the first place? Why couldn't ANYONE else taje his place?
@padminianandan1494 жыл бұрын
@@martinmelanopaz6925 Yeah I agree but he could've been given atleast A LITTLE character development but hey atleast his predictions are somewhat right (for example during his free time events he predicts that he and Makoto' s child would have the same mother which is what happend in the bad end and the dude predicted that there won't be any murders after celete's since sakura poisoned herself and mukuro was already dead due to those spears)
@MyreeAlee4 жыл бұрын
i just wanna say a few other things too. first of all, gundham actually doesn't hate kazuichi! in the second chapter, gundham actually tries to spend time with kazuichi and hajime when they try going to the beach. kazuichi declines because kazuichi *does* hate gundham, but it shows at least gundham doesn't hate him. also, sonia and gundhams relationship doesn't really develop until the fourth chapter, so while gundham would probably be a little sad that someone with similar interests to his died, but not completely distraught. i think because of all that, he would try to slowly comfort kazuichi, because as i said, in chapter two, he wanted to become closer to kazuichi :D
@MagicalGirlFia4 жыл бұрын
Honestly? Sonia is a comfort character for me. I don’t know why it’s weird Honestly though I really enjoy your video-however I do have an idea. Everything else goes as planed as you said-Sonia goes to get the mirror and Kazuichi goes up and him being the simp he is offers to go get it for her and Sonia is like ‘Uhh Yeah,Whatever’ and he just never comes back. Sonia goes to check on him at the same time Hajime goes to see Ibuki and they find both of their bodies and then the chapter goes on as normal in cannon I would do this so not only so Hiyoko could survive and get her arc but Sonia could get an arc as well which in my opinion she needs,as I like her and wish she got more development.
@axolotl5934 жыл бұрын
Same here! People might think she was too perfect or whatever but I thought that in a killing game, we needed someone like that.
@schmoneysworld37904 жыл бұрын
Her free time events shows how interesting she really is but it's like the writers forgot about her
@apalletspallet81314 жыл бұрын
@@axolotl593 Why would you need someone perfect in a killing game? I think that would only set them back. If anything, I thought she would be killed _because_ she was perfect. Obviously, the killers would go after someone who could reveal them in a class trial, and because Sonia is perfect, she would definitely be on their list.
@broski_lit78744 жыл бұрын
I *love* this idea much more!!! She’s my comfort character too, and I disliked kazuichi anyways so I mean this sounds way cooler!
@Solo_LuX4 жыл бұрын
Even though Kazuichi is my favorite character and I kin him, this is a pretty cool idea-
@shadowpeach4 жыл бұрын
i like how half of the comments are thinking on what aeris is writing on the book
@plumeria724 жыл бұрын
Sonia is an incredibly mediocre and average character in the game, with her only defining trait being her interest in the occult. I do think her death would be more interesting to the story and for me, I think it would have some fascinating yet heartbreaking effects on Gundham. This is because losing someone he truly cares about could result in a change in his usual confident demeanor. Besides a couple moments in his Free Time Events, we usually never see Gundham show to much emotion in terms of sadness or anything like that. I think his lover dying would provide a window to have him show or attempt to be open with the group and I think that would be more fulfilling for the viewer to see more of his personality. Not to mention, this could further back up his actions in the 4th trial. At this point, he has formed a bond with the rest of the group, more so with Hajime and Kazuichi. In his fear to see the people he cares about killed again, (since he wouldn’t want to feel the same sorrow he did with Sonia) he kills Nekomaru. Sorry this was a bit long! I just thought the idea of Sonia not being a survivor would have an interesting effect on the rest of the characters.
@Solo_LuX4 жыл бұрын
This sounds amazing, like woah- I love how people can think about after effects of different people dying and what type of Character development some would get!
@plumeria724 жыл бұрын
@@Solo_LuX Thanks! As much as I love Gundham (and that's a lot), I think he could have had a bit more character development.
@justinjakeashton4 жыл бұрын
Gundham and Sonia's relationship hit off during chapter 4. I really don't understand how Sonia dying in Chapter 3 would affect Gundham.
@plumeria724 жыл бұрын
@@justinjakeashton Regardless, she was still the one to show him the most kindness and sympathy for his love of animals and his eighth-grade syndrome. That had to hurt him to some degree. Besides, I think the two liked each other even before the 4th chapter. But I do agree that they really became close in the 4th chapter. Perhaps, if Sonia truly did die in Chapter 3, then the creators could give them a closer relationship in the earlier parts of the game.
@pilaramadouwu6574 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Sonia is not as mediocre as people make her out to be. She did have development after Gundham's death, and she tried her best to mantain Gundham's final message. It's not much, but I kind of dislike how everyone dismisses this.
@ptatocollen4 жыл бұрын
Should we give Sonia character development? "Nevermind" (sorry)
Me with my "Sonia should've died and hyioko survived" shirt the entire video:* sips coffee epically *
@axelotl50044 жыл бұрын
Aeris in the thumbnail writing how to win an argument and kill kokichi
@SlavoidUkr4 жыл бұрын
Kokichi is great, wtf
@axelotl50044 жыл бұрын
Slavoid ꙮ ꙮ ꙮ aeris hates him sit down
@SlavoidUkr4 жыл бұрын
@@axelotl5004 any objective reasons?
@axelotl50044 жыл бұрын
How would I know? I’m not aeris, an opinion is an opinion, when I asked their in one of their streams of what their least favourite character was she said it was kokichi, and they said “I CANT FUCKING STAND KOKICHI.”
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
@@SlavoidUkr he fucking sucks
@pandoratheexplorer82114 жыл бұрын
You didn't really touch on this, but, as a sonia fan, I think your proposal for sonia being a second victim could expand more on her character and the impact her death would have on the rest of the cast too. After twogami establishes himself as leader in ch.1, sonia has a scene where she says shes not really interested in leading. However after twogamis death we do see her trying to bring the class together, both with the beach party and helping hiyoko with her kimono. If the writers put in some more scenes like that with sonia they could have easily established her as the leader figure that encouraged everyone to get along after twogami died, which is fitting considering her talent. If sonia died in chapter 3, the only other character whos a good leader would be nekomaru probably, and during the ch.3 trial everyone would probably panic a little since they have no leader figure in their investigation. (They could have had chiaki give a shounen protag speech about finding the truth even though their unofficial leader is gone and give her more character development at least.) Then after nekomaru dies in chapter 4 the class might be more split as they have no leader figure left, which could give everyone else a chance to start being more serious. (Especially chiaki-she kind of took on a directory role in ch. 5 but with sonia right there being all DONT WORRY EVERYONE STAY CALM ABOUT THE BOMBS the effect was kind of lost) It could give sonia a more prominent role in the story and also reduce some of the goofing off in the later chapters as everyone learns to take things seriously since some of their joking around in the later trials were kind of tonally dissonant
@MotorcycleCheetah4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I would say let Ibuki live, but start making her more dour and depressed, less quick on the draw, as an example of the Despair starting to set in. Where later she starts trying to act the same, but gets progressively quieter and slower. Any excuse for Ibuki not to die. ;-;
@basspitzenberger88064 жыл бұрын
I'd say let ibuki survive instead of akane
@MotorcycleCheetah4 жыл бұрын
I disagree, the second trial didn’t need to be a Double Murder. People say Ibuki would mess with the tone, but, THE TONE WAS DUMB REGARDLESS! They let Yasuhiro and Genocide Jill survive, who the fuck cares about the tone?!
@basspitzenberger88064 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcycleCheetah you know what, You're right
@maverickdarkrath47804 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcycleCheetah well yasuhiro was ironically very important for foreshadowing the twist of trial 4 and figuring out red herrings, while jill sirved a narrative purpose of being able to remember past memories tohko didn't have acces to
@MotorcycleCheetah4 жыл бұрын
You know, when worded like that, that makes sense.
@yehahauuyyyehehahaa4 жыл бұрын
aires writing on how sonia nevermind is the most painfully medicore dr2 character
@Melecie4 жыл бұрын
nice prediction
@yehahauuyyyehehahaa4 жыл бұрын
@@Melecie i am now the ultimate clarivoyant
@padminianandan1494 жыл бұрын
@@yehahauuyyyehehahaa Hagakure is sweating there
@yehahauuyyyehehahaa4 жыл бұрын
@@padminianandan149 what if i am hagakure?
@padminianandan1494 жыл бұрын
@@yehahauuyyyehehahaa Or...you're Tsumugi cosplaying as Hagakure
@mrmetang36424 жыл бұрын
I think messy and unfinished character arcs fit the game rather well. This is a messy, brutal killing game; deaths are going to be random. Plus, it makes the character deaths that much more unpredictable and horrifying, feeding into what should be the main focus of a murder mystery game: the murder mysteries. One of the reasons why I didn't really feel anything for V3's survivors is because I knew they were gonna survive since chapter 3 or earlier. It's also why the discovery of Hiyoko's body is one of my favorite moments in the entire series. Since they were willing to kill a character with clear character development I had no idea who was next, one of the moments I truly felt afraid in this series and I loved it! Also: I think talking about a character sacrificing their own life for someone else's character development like it was necessary is rather degrading. They stop being a character and just a plot device, which is a really unhealthy way to think about humans. It legitimately sounds like a part of Nagito's philosophy. Death is something horrific and traumatizing, it should never be necessary.
@axolotl5934 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
i think hiyoko was missed potential, but as someone who did use that same tactic in their own fangan, i agree with this. & while me and my partner love each other a lot, i do disagree with her when they say "kazuichi earn his spot in the survivors by sonia and gundam dying" (i don't think that was exactly what she meant, since she's glad kazuichi lived either way, but still).
@LeafRazorStorm4 жыл бұрын
Some of the worst despair of all is the kind that makes you think "This was not supposed to happen."
@frenchfries29984 жыл бұрын
Aeris Akamatsu Well I feel like a charachter who is usually stupid and has not the much development survives both games. Like hagakure and souda meanwhile everyone else has development
@ShinyShilla4 жыл бұрын
*cries* Ryomaaaaa
@mysticgirl47224 жыл бұрын
I love this development for Hiyoko, but especially for Soda. If Sonia had died the things he did would have been much better. When he made the Mini Nekomaru for Akane it warmed my heart, but it just ruined it having him make it for her to impress Sonia. I love this rewrite and I throughly enjoyed the video!
@Tehfunsterman4 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing in an actual textbook like a deviant
@cityguard48474 жыл бұрын
I’m still upsetti spaghetti that Ibuki died. Best girl, never changing it.
@naoki-kashima26354 жыл бұрын
Aeris is drawing akane on their notebook because akane is an amazing character and aeris has good tastes
@mirillis60834 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I could understand hyoko being murdered, espically seeing how ruthlessly she bullied Mikan, But if the writers really wanted to follow this route, it would make sence to not have Ibuki die (yet atleast) because it takes away from how emotionally jarring it could have potentially been.
@griefingg0lem6854 жыл бұрын
I've always been more partial to where there didnt have to be a double kill here, but I understand the reason to keep it. I still say that Sonia being the mastermind rather than Junko would have been a better use of the story for her for how much it would fit her character, but this is a fun alternate to also get Hiyoko to the finish line. Also, my main thing about the weapon is not that it is never named or shown, but more that it is never mentioned. We have to go over obvious deaths like the baseball bat to prove that is the murder weapon, but not even a mention is a bit annoying if inconsistent.
@TimNewmanGaming4 жыл бұрын
In all honesty I am a Sonia fan and even I thought she was gonna be the mastermind. I was trying to use logic to guess who was behind it. Her princess status meant she was rich and powerful so I thought her kingdom owned the island they were on. Sadly I was wrong since it was Junko but she would have been a great mastermind. It would make her obsession with serial killers even funnier honestly. Lol.
@griefingg0lem6854 жыл бұрын
@@TimNewmanGaming Yeah, as she had the motive with the obsession with killers and Japan, so she would be in love with Junko. There is also the foreshadowing from Twogami at the start where he says that either the Togami Corporation (can't because they are dead), the Kuzuryu Clan (had it's own story arc), or Sonia's Kingdom (which is just a redherring?) could be behind it because of their influence and power. There is also the parts of her not being a major part of any trial besides sending Hiyoko to her death, the current story was perfectly lined up for it all.
@TimNewmanGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@griefingg0lem685 That's right!! I completely forgot Twogami said that. I feel like it's a good clue but not obvious and him being killed first would make his death better since the 1st death always has some value. Just like my favorite Rantaro dying in V3 cause he knew too much. I still mad about him dying first. Wish he was the main instead of Shuichi. Mainly cause he can remember near the end that he was in a previous killing game and trying to learn about the missing memories of it. That would've been crazy cause him and Tsumugi rivalry would have been insane!
@kevinsafar4 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing on how they are so happy for Sonia being dead at 3AM.
@Melecie4 жыл бұрын
nice prediction
@butterflyexists4 жыл бұрын
well yes but no
@devonetn81764 жыл бұрын
3 days why why *cries* my impatient ass will never survive
@lemonofcake4 жыл бұрын
I've never thought of a way to improve this chapter so I find this really interesting. Also since Gundham and Souda are my favorite characters in SDR2 I think that a little bit of extra development would add a lo to their characters and their romantic rivalry.
@rosariogonzalez61304 жыл бұрын
Me, a Soda stan before your partner goes off: this would be good Me, a Soda stan after your partner goes off: THIS WOULD HAVE MADE THE GAME SO MUCH BETTER, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST, I AM SO ANGRY SODA DIDNT GET THAT DEVELOPMENT
@chaesbestfriend6084 жыл бұрын
KAZUICHI STANS RISE, SONIA SHOULD HAVE DIED SO HE COULS STOP SIMPING AND TAKE CARE OF SOME HAMSTERS
@ShinyShilla4 жыл бұрын
OMG yesssss
@Solo_LuX4 жыл бұрын
@@chaesbestfriend608 YOU SUMMONED ME? I honestly love him as a simp, but I feel he could be even more lovable if he didn't do EveRYTHING for Miss Sonia.
@tildecorrera76974 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing on how to destroy Junko stans
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
sadly there is one junko stan i can never destroy
@tildecorrera76974 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNyx the junko stans were the friends we made along the way...?
@geekylesbian74404 жыл бұрын
@@tildecorrera7697 the junko stans were actually just the cast of Thomas the Tank Engine
@tildecorrera76974 жыл бұрын
@@geekylesbian7440 i feel like i've made a terrible mistake by writing this comment...
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
@@tildecorrera7697 the junko stan is my boyfriend
@fakebulgarian87804 жыл бұрын
I always thought Hiyoko and Fuyuhiko would have a really interesting dynamic that could’ve been explored more! I’m really glad someone talked about it!
@PlagueBunny4 жыл бұрын
Me: *sees Kazuichi* “He’s going to be my favorite character.” Me: *finds out he’s a simp* “I don’t wanna play with you anymore...”
@frenchfries29984 жыл бұрын
Is the I don’t wanna play with you anymore a Steven universe reference 🤭
@LordZula4 жыл бұрын
Regina George I’m pretty sure it’s a Toy Story 2 reference.
@PlagueBunny4 жыл бұрын
@@LordZula correct!
@uglyugly89864 жыл бұрын
Bro I love kazuichi
@Solo_LuX4 жыл бұрын
@@uglyugly8986 same, when I found out he was a simp I was just like "same😔✌️" time to start simping for the simp-
@kazoou57634 жыл бұрын
14:20 “Dressed like a depressed Banana”. lmao
@DuelaDent524 жыл бұрын
How to make the trial better Step 1: Don’t kill Ibuki Step 2: Roll Credits
@pretendihaveacoolname15974 жыл бұрын
I think Hiyoko would feel guilty if Sonia died and her character development would be faster She'd try to become friends with Souda or Gundam because of the thing between them
@z3ro.Qw1rtz2 жыл бұрын
And then she'd be even more upset when ghundam dies so more development See ? Everything gets along
@kibouwastaken4 жыл бұрын
This will be interesting!! I've always thought that this chapter could have been improved in many ways.. Can't wait to see your opinion!!!
@lav78754 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing on why Korekiyo is a magnificent human being that deserves the world and more
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
korekiyo is the weirdest way of spelling kirumi i've ever seen
@lav78754 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNyx Yeah, stupid autocorrect smh
@tylerpancake7804 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNyx Don't forget Ryoma
@mirillis60834 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNyx gasp...you are *INCORRECT*
@ziongamer69054 жыл бұрын
Do we have the same Korekiyo?! Was mine just busted?
@poketorr15174 жыл бұрын
I ADORED this video and I honestly love the idea of Hiyoko surviving and a friendship between her and Fuyu! Good job with this video Aeris! Your videos are amazing and make me appreciate a lot of characters more!! oh and the "the little shit" in that list of characters made me laugh
@aceofjulian4 жыл бұрын
I feel if both were survive, what could happen is a combination of the two ideas you had in section 3. Maybe they have a falling out and Fuyuhiko almost kills Hiyoko, but then she is able to come to her senses and apologize, and fuyuhiko would be able to accept her apology, and then they grow into a mutual “frenemies” dynamic. Also I feel fuyuhiko’s development would be more focused on opening up just to put difference in Hiyoko’s development. Great video
@zookeeps13404 жыл бұрын
Honestly tho the second games like most hated on characters who are Kazuichi, Mikan, and Akane who all grew up either poor and were all abused Edit: the reason I included Mikan but not Hiyoko was, everybody mentions the reason she was mean and cold to everybody whereas the 3 people I mentioned like 99% of the fanbase hates them, also they are the characters where they get reduced down to Pervert Stalker Guy (Kazuichi), Fanservice Nurse (Mikan), and boobies food hungry gymnast girl (Akane) nobody cares to look into their backstories or to do the free time events with them, (when I played I did almost all of mine with Akane, and I actually FINISHED Hiyokos, and I honestly think that Hiyoko dosent get as much hate as people would think compared to characters like Mikan, Kazuichi, Akane, and hell Even Mahiru and Peko.
@wpbn56134 жыл бұрын
and Saionji who was nearly killed in her everyday life
@fluffsynthesis4 жыл бұрын
Wdym mikan is literally loved, if someone in the game is hated, it would be hiyoko
@dingdongdropdead4 жыл бұрын
I disagree on the Mikan part, I actually find her overrated. But yeah, Kazuichi and Akane don't deserve all the hate they get.
@inainkycap4 жыл бұрын
Mikan is either loved or hated
@wpbn56134 жыл бұрын
@@fluffsynthesis Mikan and Saionji are both hated a lot. Mikan is both overhated AND overrated. I love Mikan, but a lot of people tend to get her character wrong and think she's only cute because she killed Saionji and other reasons. They're both good people and were it not for Junko I think both of them could've come to an understanding
@arinami55054 жыл бұрын
Sonia is a gate keeper and inside the gate there's character development , she doesn't let in Kazuichi , Hiyoko and Gundham in. That's how I like to imagine lt.
@jolimau16854 жыл бұрын
We were ROBBED of the potential fuyuhiko/hiyoko friendship dynamic
@escapefr0mslender Жыл бұрын
YESS UGH
@aricaine50244 жыл бұрын
Ok- this has nothing to do with the video although it is amazing great job Aeris- Fuyuhiko looks like a tennis ball. Like, objectively. He even has those two stripes. Meanwhile, Ryoma, the ultimate tennis player, killed a mafia with his tennis skills. Fuyuhiko is the Ultimate Yakuza, essentially the Japanese mafia. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
as a fuyuhiko kinnie this comment disturbs me
@aricaine50244 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveNyx good
@ZDee64 жыл бұрын
Mikan's execution was trash. I said what I said.
@francisthegreat25173 жыл бұрын
Where’s the lie
@caramel31412 жыл бұрын
It's true
@sooyo47913 жыл бұрын
The Gundam and Souda fix really reminds me of the Taka and Mondo bond. They first hated each other, then they became best friends and as it turns out, one of them is a killer.
@scrappymatty91534 жыл бұрын
If i'm being honest, i believe Sonia should've been the blackened in chapter 4. Maybe she realized what was Gundam's plan, and she took matters into her own hands.
@yushiro85064 жыл бұрын
AAAA YESSSS I LOVE THIS
@kokomhie18093 жыл бұрын
Yas, the despair that gundham and kazuichi feel
@kokomhie18093 жыл бұрын
It would also be more interesting
@scrappymatty91533 жыл бұрын
@@kokomhie1809 And that could even create some sort of mutal respect between the two, and *actually giving soda something to fucking do other than simp and be a creep towards Sonia*
@Princely_Peaches4 жыл бұрын
I've actually thought about this a while ago and you LITERALLY took the words right out of my mouth! I agree with everything you said and as a hiyoko stan this would've made me REALLY happy!
@S1.dn3y4 жыл бұрын
19:25 Good impression of Hyoko.
@aestheticjerk24264 жыл бұрын
*”THE LITTLE SHIT”* This is actually SO GOOD, absolutely wish this would’ve happen
@megrisck7724 жыл бұрын
really appreciated this video as the dynamics would have been so interesting to see unfold. but more importantly was what you said at the end about a work inspiring others in a profound way that when attempting their own to change or write one’s own answer to something that didn’t sit well or saw potential in that wasn’t reached. and you are right, it’s an incredible feeling to figure something out that becomes uniquely yours as a result. Danganronpa truly shaped many future projects-to-be that I know will come out eventually and it makes me very excited. so thank you to everyone who worked on this video, and especially for touching upon that note. …sorry for rambling, it really struck a chord for me as others have stated that about an idea I have that emerged exactly in the way you described here.
@zookeeps13404 жыл бұрын
I just dont like how in the second game 3 of the 5 survivors had somebody sacrifice themselves to save them Peko- Fuyuhiko Nekomaru- Akane Gundham- Sonia Then Hajime is the protag so he'd obviously survive Then just Kazuichi, like in the first game I'd say only 1 of the deaths was a sacrifice and it was Sakuras and it was mainly Towards Hina I'd say but affected everybody
@xaviergroves85254 жыл бұрын
yeah i have always found that wierd with the survivors of the second game because of the running theme of keeping a persons legacy in their memory and the souda is just there
@deni-h3i4 жыл бұрын
Tell Kaede that next time I think she needs to hear that 😂😂
@ii_lilxz51974 жыл бұрын
Well, Sayaka’s death really did hit makoto pretty hard so that’s another one
@jordandwiggins10264 жыл бұрын
In V3 literally every survivor fits this description
@Anafyral6664 жыл бұрын
Hagakure, Kazuichi, Tsumugi
@tinyperson48644 жыл бұрын
Ok but imagine hajime being the culprit of chapter 5. It kinda makes sense if you think about it. Hajime throws the poison bottle and dies. Chiaki gets to live and show the others that there is hope for our future. Everyone loves Chiaki and would take her side no matter what, while they never seemed to feel the same about hajime. But also imagine the plot twist! You've played as this character for so long and then BOOM they're the killer! They would have the same execution as Chiaki and you wouldn't understand why until you watch the anime and see that hajime and Chiaki bonded over video games, leaving you with more dispair! I know everyone thinks that chapter 5 of danganronpa 2 is the best trial ever but I feel like this might be a good idea!
@kylesky744 жыл бұрын
but it wouldn't make sense because without hajime who's basically izuru he wouldn't have woken up the dead classmates so i say it would've botched cannon too much
@lakeguzman32594 жыл бұрын
yeah but what about izuru kamakura and hajime being the actual master mind? i think thats a best plot twist and makes the chiaki death even more painfull. but chiaki even death help hinata and the others with hope. Sorry for my bad english...
@tinyperson48644 жыл бұрын
@@kylesky74 didn't the future foundation wake up the dead classmates? I might just be really stupid but the virtual world was set up my the future foundation so wouldn't they wake the dead classmates up?
@lakeguzman32594 жыл бұрын
also i love hinata
@kylesky744 жыл бұрын
@@tinyperson4864 nah from what danganronpa 3 the anime implies that izuru basically woke everyone up i think danganronpa 2.5 shows how he did it to
@zookeeps13404 жыл бұрын
Fun Chpater 3 Fact: Celestia is the only killer to have actually made a plan on killing both of her Victims, while Korekyio and Mikan only planned on killing one person (Ibuki, and whoever went into do the ritual, also 1 of Kork and Mikans victims are both voiced by Julie Ann Taylor, its Ibuki and Tenko)
@orichalcosamvmaker38663 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. Sonia would’ve made the most logical second victim in this case. Keep in mind, Sonia is kind of my comfort character for me and I still 100% agree with your points about her and I definitely feel the same. Also, a Fuyuhiko and Hiyoko friendship sounds lovely and I stan. Amazing video, I’m sad I haven’t watched this sooner. Keep up the great work.
@werewolfwebsite4 жыл бұрын
I lost my shit on "were probably on a minecraft server together at that point", now my headcanon that after every sdr2 character dies they join the big minecraft server in the sky 💖
@rockhistoria25373 жыл бұрын
Everyone who died in danganronpa is happily playing in the Aether
@francisthegreat25173 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine that everyone’s always yelling over something stupid and Mondo, Fuyuhiko, and Miu keep getting kicked out for cussing out the other characters. edit: Nagito and Kokichi keep griefing the map and getting kicked from the server.
@rockhistoria25373 жыл бұрын
@@francisthegreat2517 Miu pulls an okuyasu and comes back to life because she was kicked out of the Christian minecraft server
@francisthegreat25173 жыл бұрын
@@rockhistoria2537 if only she could do that in chapter 4 of V3 :(
@StafkiGTN4 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I actually wanted hiyoko to survive because I found her funny honestly?
@missbubblebee33294 жыл бұрын
I actually felt that way about Hiyoko just as well, thank god I’m not the only one lol. I hope people don’t hate me for this.
@demigod000004 жыл бұрын
20:48 S K I T T L E T I T S I’m fucking deceased
@keiidt4 жыл бұрын
this is actually such a cool improvement and I would definitely be interested to see it if it happened in the game in canon. seriously, I do like hiyoko as a character and think that she shouldn't have died so early on. these changes would be so cool... great analysis, good work!
@youreverydayace97683 жыл бұрын
I honestly want to create an entire Tumblr ask blog of this AU and Fuyuhiko and Hiyoko going off with teasing banter.
@monacauwu69934 жыл бұрын
I love Saijoni to be honest. I love a lot of hated characters and with my most favorite character being Monaca. I actually like this video It makes sense and I didn't really grow a fondness for Sonia and Ibuki so I would truly not care.
@toothmushroom9434 жыл бұрын
Sonia Nevermind ...you dislike yourself?
@plushcentric4 жыл бұрын
I feel with you, I like most characters That people always hate I love Junko, and Monaca
@nguyethang50988 ай бұрын
hiyoko literally existing the creator:it your time to die
@JomoOval2 жыл бұрын
Not knowing what the murder weapon for Hiyoko was isn't the problem exactly, it's the fact that it was never brought up in the class trial at all. Heck, if they had brought it up, they might've deduced that it was Mikan even quicker since there was nothing at the crime scene that would be able to slit Hiyoko's throat and Mikan would be the only one who's profession/ultimate requires a sharp object (besides maybe Fuyukiko i guess?) But yeah not discovering an answer is fine, but not asking in the first place is not fine for a class trial
@DetectiveNyx2 жыл бұрын
honestly? i think it's more realistic than the class being able to remember absolutely every detail, and with the trick mikan set up, that was probably what everyone wanted to solve. if it was crucial evidence, it could've caused her to go free - but that's kind of what culprits are trying to do?
@ninjayajnin4 жыл бұрын
Step 1: dont kill ibuki
@1337treeckolol4 жыл бұрын
Yo Aeris... Me and my friend had this EXACT SAME CONVERSATION. Almost EXACTLY. About Peko and Mahiru's sacrifice-- To Kazuichi and Gundham's post-Sonia death arc together. The complete unification of all the Survivors being people who've lost things. EVERYONE in the whole game would have this impressive arc and share losing another.
@felixisgay99293 жыл бұрын
The amount of sonia slander in this video is just- Also, love the fact that at 18:00 you just completely avoided kokichis name-
@Hi-zh6ss4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait. Pity it's a 1am time for people who don't have insomnia. But for me, let's just say it's a different story.
@moongirl_lunalav4 жыл бұрын
Best part of Hiyoko surviving is that she'd call Junko a trashy bitch
@breadinpain12663 жыл бұрын
another change, in my opinion, was instead of having the despair disease, have the motive be "I've given one of you your memory back." this then becoming a chapter on who can be trusted, despite the previous chapter being fuyuhiko beginning to trust the others and them trusting him
@BassiKun993 жыл бұрын
19:24 Aeris surprised me here with their impression. Very well done, almost sounded like the real thing!
@alixpluckrose84064 жыл бұрын
hiyoko is my 2nd favorite danganronpa 2 character,her death hurt me a lot,she deserved the development that himiko got,himiko is everything i wanted hiyoko to be
@plushcentric4 жыл бұрын
There names are almost the same too 😭
@alixpluckrose84064 жыл бұрын
@@plushcentric yeah exactly
@roundaboutrequiem984 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm absolutely blown away by this. I love everything you've done in creating this video. Now I wish that this is what happened, because if it did, everything would work so perfectly, and I'm not sure I can ever see DR2 in the same way again after watching this. You've done an amazing job - this is why I'm subscribed to you in the first place! - and I can't commend you enough for that.
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@arrianetolentino64594 жыл бұрын
Ngl, during that chapter's trial, I kept furiously accusing Sonia as the killer and almost hit game over bc she was so sus (I did not account for how she could've done it tho lmao)
@PigBoy992 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest pro-Sonia survivors here Sonia dying could legit be a great case because, well, SHE’S A PRINCESS. SHE HAS AN ENTIRE NATION ON HER SHOULDERS. Her death would affect not just our survivors, but an entire kingdom. Plus, her little thing about being glad she’s equal and that she hopes to be friends with everyone when you first meet her would just be painful looking back
@DetectiveNyx2 жыл бұрын
even though i don't agree with a lot of this video anymore, what you just described as a devastation would've been really cool to see
@crocketlawnchair2594 жыл бұрын
18:39 Kiyo stan about to slam my face against to keyboard say: PLEASE STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS HE’S SO MUCH BETTER AS AN ABSOLUTE MONSTER OF A CHARACTER! Also really fuckin good video. I fell off of DR for a while so I haven’t watched much of your content recently, and I’m planning on rectifying that now that I’ve watched this.
@danielvaladez12864 жыл бұрын
This would be small but I think fuyuhiko would end up having that talk he had with akane in the funhouse with hiyoko
@lettri7944 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not alone in this idea, because a lot of this was definitely something that crossed my mind before.
@miserycatty4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted my lil banana girl to survive :(
@leonzen29584 жыл бұрын
4:34 Aeris : Gosh! If only there was some other character who has little to no character development, has no impact on the main story other than a love triangle...... Me : yeah, Kazuichi. Aeris : **brings up Sonia** Me : **gasp** How could you?? ;(
@pawsae4 жыл бұрын
Finished the video and I’m legitimately devastated that this didn’t happen in the actual game like?
@NoCryinRyan4 жыл бұрын
My rewrite is based on an idea brought up in V3’s chapter 3; a double murder where the killers are different. Mikan would still kill Ibuki, but when she tries to kill Hyoko, Fuyo would kill Mikan (his motive was to protect Hyoko and repay his debt to her). During the trial, Hyoko would try to defend Fuyo and he would still be declared the blackened (before his execution, he would tell Hyoko not to be afraid to reach out, even though she couldn’t protect him during the trial). This does two things: Fuyo’s desire to protect someone he values is satisfied and Hyoko finally starts opening up to the others.
@plushcentric4 жыл бұрын
That. Is. Perfect!!!
@starryriri4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for this idea! Since it’s brought up that killing off Fuyuhiko would devalue Peko’s sacrifice, maybe Mikan would attempt to murder Hiyoko and Fuyuhiko comes to protect her. With that, they go to alarm the others and the whole class trial is trying to figure out how Ibuki was murdered and if Mikan killed her or if Hiyoko and Fuyuhiko did. Maybe Fuyuhiko’s willingness to protect her would be a way for her to see that trusting the others isn’t a bad idea. And maybe Sonia could provide a testament that she saw Hiyoko trying to put on her kimono, and that there was no way that she could’ve killed Ibuki that fast with a untied Kimono. Anyway sorry for that ramble, I just wanted to add some ideas
@TemTem-ready4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I really like your point to all of this, too me it makes me appreciate Hiyoko more than just what I first perceived her to be. Like now your just making Hiyoko one of my favorite characters because of this video and i thank you for that, this video really does shed a light towards these different ideals and thoughts towards them and it's really nice.
@CaribouGutSludge4 жыл бұрын
Dusk of the first day 3 days remain
@escapefr0mslender Жыл бұрын
22:01 I would want em to have an emotional hug moment. To have Hiyoko cry in fuyuhikos arms and
@pineapplepearjuice67174 жыл бұрын
Aeris writing writing a prayer to our lord ands savior Ibuki Mioda.
@rockhistoria25373 жыл бұрын
Ameennnnn~
@KyloGram2 жыл бұрын
I really like revisiting this video, always gets the gears in my head turning on the things I wish we got from the canon series and for how I wanna write my own stuff in a really good way! Even if I like Sonia at least a decent bit, I definitely agree that chapter 3 would have been an ideal point for her to die. The major thing she contributes following is her military knowledge in chapter 5, but Fuyuhiko would hypothetically be able to do that just as well, if not better.
@maddyrussell84263 жыл бұрын
I think (to further enhance soda’s development) Sonia would die in chapter 3, then come back revealing herself as the mastermind (as you’ve said she could’ve just made a clone of herself). It would make soda’s view of her shattered since he thought she was the embodiment of perfection, it could make him learn people who you believe are perfect aren’t actually.
@diamondduke17924 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm far from being a Hiyoko fan, I really like this and could enjoy it happening in the game, especially because my liking of Sonia has drastically decreased overtime
@mariekuelbs93474 жыл бұрын
Spoiler I wish that they brought up Mikan’s behavior at the end of her trial during the Chapter 6 trial. That could further state “This is what you ALL were like before, Mikan was a perfect example. You ALL were like her. She reverted back to being a Remnant of Despair blah blah blah, etc.”
@Sneaker37194 жыл бұрын
I legit love these vids analyzing Danganronpa, as they are not only entertaining, but insightful. I also love how you include Gmod antics in your vids, if only for a few seconds. The only thing that could make them even more wild would be if they somehow included characters from Valve properties.
@Eli-ky7lv4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that Fuyuhiko dying in chapter 3 is only a rumor, or at least doesn’t have any official evidence
@DetectiveNyx4 жыл бұрын
there's no confirmation from Kodaka but given the writing surrounding him and Hiyoko it only makes sense, as does the rushed murder case
@Wince_Media4 жыл бұрын
Wow. You made me like Hiyoko. ALso I'm happy that Im not the only one who thinks its weird sonia survived
@ellaisswag45534 жыл бұрын
i actually thought when i played the game that Sonia was gonna be one of the blackened
@goldenyoshistar14 жыл бұрын
23:00 - The Devs (Let's give Hioko good character development and have Sonia Die) Devs later- nah, let's do a penetration joke so that this game can really not take itself seriously.
@pulpox69443 жыл бұрын
I love this changes. Adding to Kazuichis development i think It would ve interesting to explore His obsession with Sonia , because for me his behaviour towards her was More of a coping mechanism than a real crush.
@naoki-kashima26354 жыл бұрын
11:23 "Oh boy, here I go is gonna be again"
@Azurepetalls4 жыл бұрын
Aeris: "she then discovers who the true enemy is," me: *gasp* "her own self-destructive tendencies and closed-off outward attitude?" Aeris: "Nagito." me: "oh"