Komplete 15 and Kontakt 8 are here! Let's check if it's for you...

[@michaelmos7497]

🍀 Basically: Don't so many of us already have enough sounds, VST plugins, sound libraries, etc.? I mean the DAW users who have been using it continuously and with commitment for a few years? I have drastically limited my purchases for many months - including free sounds, free plugins and so on - and am using the things I already have. There is so much and so much variety that I won't be able to do it all in this lifetime anyway. Every two or three weeks there is something new and "absolutely spectacular" somewhere. That may well be true here and there, but you shouldn't let it drive you crazy and fiddly... Work creatively with your own, usually huge, sound content and you will recognize and appreciate what a great and "valuable treasure" you actually have 🍀

[@johnhill762]

It’s a new plugin bundle. If some feel it’s right for them, they’ll buy it. And if not, then not. People will work with what they think works best for them. And if that’s new plugins, then it’s new plugins. And if it’s not, then it’s not. Ultimately, individual must decide what’s required for their creativity. Who are we to say

[@michaelmos7497]

@@johnhill762 Exactly, that's how it is. I used to think that too often (because I was extremely productive) and bought and bought. Now, after many months, I see that many plugin bundles weren't really necessary 🙂. Nowadays I sometimes discover a VST plugin in a KZbin video and think, oh God, you have that too?! Then I start working with it again 😅 Conclusion _for me personally:_ It's enough...🍀

[@bertenqvist7324]

U said it, if you constantly belong to them who wait for the next new plugin or sound you never give yourself a chance to dig into it´s core and develop as a soundmaker. The best sounds will never be on the market.

[@losophy4588]

gonna wait for summer sale. Not worth upgrading now for 500 bucks imo

[@ELLIOT8209]

Yeah, I'm still on 12ku CE

[@quincylinder9738]

I’m still on 12 and finally looking to upgrade due to some plugins not working on my new silicon Mac (switched from intel based one) gonna wait for a Black Friday or summer sale fs

[@quincylinder9738]

Do they do Black Friday sales?

[@sleepingstate1978]

Standard native instruments. They are fantastic in the sales. Out of sales... Not so much

[@sleepingstate1978]

​@@quincylinder9738probably but the real sale is their half price event. Not sure if it's summer or not but it will be at least 6 months after the release.

[@CarminaIguana]

Kontakt Chords seems OK for fooling around--but for those who also want to learn something, there's Scaler 2.

[@phemios]

Then there's Chordprism2 which actually let's you choose any plugin to generate the sound and includes a neat sequencer.

[@chrismarkin5965]

Always enjoy your vids. Thanks Jef for your work. I like how real you keep things. No hype. just a gear/music guy sharing honest observations.

[@ernestm8884]

I'd like to see how Komplete 15 and Kontakt 8 work with my Maschine MK3, and my Kontrol s61 MK2.

[@lamardoss]

12:50 So I've had this issue a few times also. Sort of odd the way its done. But you have to choose the instance on the keyboard for it to recognize there's been a change sometimes. This happens often on my s88 mk2.

[@Mark-vf8op]

Your vids are the best on behalf of NI stuff….thank you 4 that! Keep m coming.

[@rolandgerard6064]

Thanks for your demo. You have still the most beautiful music studio out there.

[@elpecemusiq6955]

Just listened to the demos on the advert and the sounds are just mesmerising. The songs put on there express the beauty of the sounds.

[@hasznoneother]

I’m here for my man Jeff! Short and sweet review from the all around pro love ❤️ ya buddy!

[@BrandonJordan]

Thanks for laying that out for us. Might be a "wait for a sale" situation for me.

[@magicmulder]

To me Kontakt was always the equivalent of Bridge in the Adobe universe - a VST browser. I don’t really need it to become a synth, or a small DAW. I much prefer lots of ways to store favorites over gimmicks like a chord module.

[@BEATZ4JESUS24SEVEN]

We’re I went wrong was purchasing individual plugins$ 1.400 and now there in the collectors edition that is 499.00I just upgraded to standard 15 I reached out to native instruments hopefully I pray they can adjust the price it’s to much this collectors upgrade price when ya have most of the plugins I think NI should Adjust the price if you have duplicate plugins I gave NI enuff for the next 3 future komplete collectors in over spending with them

[@joelrudshavn4894]

I agree. Had the same problem. But sadly i just had to sell the licenses instead . Knobcloud is a good option. However i wish native instruments had a discount solution for the loyal customers.

[@ernestm8884]

I'm in the same boat. I purchased most of the plugins that come in 15 standard and it would be really cool if NI offered Komplete 15 Ultimate for the $199.00 for peaople like us. How do you resell licenses??

[@joelrudshavn4894]

@@ernestm8884 On the NI page under ”my account” . There is a License transfer option. You need aquire a transfer id. And then you can sell it. Knobcloud is a good option.

[@PatrickFungsca]

As far as I know, they won't do a "refund" or give you a even better "pricing".

[@BEATZ4JESUS24SEVEN]

I have been talking to them asking to speak to higher mngr I have given them a extra 1400 to put in they pocket my friend said it’s unethical what the are doing he said just let them know

[@Cefshah]

Interesting updates for sure. And as always, a nicely informative video!! Peace to you and yours, Jef. 🙂💙💙💙

[@Prod.ijay2135]

Seems like NI designed the player to keep you locked in so you don’t have to keep closing the window and opening other plugins that have these new features for a faster workflow. My only complaint is the CPU Usage that it takes if you’re creating massive Compositions. But I guess that’s why you just mixdown the idea and keep it moving.😅

[@MathHammer]

I like to stay current on software within limits for both my hobbies and professional software. The upgrade price for Ultimate is a little steep for what I would get out of it (hobby). So I am going to wait for a sale. Given the direction of workstation software from UVI and Steinberg and the fact that NI has a lot of tech outside the sampler space, I would not be surprised if NI started wrapping some of its other tech into Kontakt to make an all-in-one workstation that competes with Falcon and Halion.

[@jcav764]

Surprised by how much Leap looks like Arcade

[@frankwalders]

Ha ha was thinking exactly the same thing

[@gabriel-fleszar]

NI just copied Output 🙄

[@TheFoolsGuild]

Not just me then. 😊

[@jroc2k]

Just downloaded mine, these sounds are amazing!

[@WriteJus]

The main thing I’m interested in is using the loops and one shots on Kontakt 8 with all the expansions I got. I wanna see how deep the functionality actually is: if that is dope, I’ll upgrade soon. Chords seem cool, but I already have scaler 2 😎

[@jazzdude7014]

remember LOOPMASH in CUBASE until 11? And Chordpads and the Chordtrack and Scale assistant? And Wavetable and FM Synthesis in Halion? NI again needs "INSPIRATIONs" from other Companies! But hey, the have nice Pictures, which take 50% of the space with NO VALUE! Sad Story if we remember the times of REAKTOR and ABSYNTH 20 years ago ....

[@rmp5s]

People seem to like whinging about this but I'M looking forward to updating my Komplete 12 Ultimate as I love the new toys and inspiration!! IT'S FUN! Lighten up, everyone! Or just don't buy it! lol

[@jefgibbons]

For real… I never lost my mind because the iPhone 16 is a meager update from the 15 that I have… I just didn’t buy it!

[@bennyceca]

I think I'll wait for the summer sale or even Komplete 16 in couple of years before upgrading from v14.

[@simonsmith2642]

I see no reason to update at this point. Maybe next summer. But Im still STILL trying to get good at using what I have.

[@johnsuggs7828]

I have 14 Standard. Didn't need all of what's included with the Collector's and Ultimate editions. Looking at the instruments I want to get, Like the Alicia Electric Keys. The ones I want total more than the 500 dollars compares with the199 upgrade price tag to go from 14 to 15. No rush, but this is probably going to happen. Slowly going *Kompletely* Native Instruments and Arturia.

[@magicmulder]

Alicia’s Electric Keys didn’t wow me at all. I have a couple nice e-piano libs that are much better.

[@SuperLAMBARD]

Leap expansions available with Kontakt 7 ? Thks for your tutos

[@codename9988]

Without a paid account to KZbin the commercials ruined the watching and learning experience

[@kenvis6389]

Nice video, as usual. These new features are not something I would probably use. I would rather stretch my sketchy keyboard skills and just play something organically rather than have software do it for me. But I do know some music theory and have played guitar for about fifty years. I find it more rewarding to learn as I write rather than do stale practice routines. These seem to be aimed towards those earlier in their musical journey.

[@n1oon295]

great video

[@BossLevelAudio24]

Before I watch the video, it'd want to be something amazing to get me to part with another big chunk of cash. There's just so many cheaper alternatives now that are fantastic.

[@bertenqvist7324]

Agree with the previes one, Plz understand a world hit sound will never be on the market or on any library because they will keep it by themselves.

[@360sun]

I got a dumb question but humor me. I’m a noob. Can you use kontakt inside maschine? Will they play nice together

[@gman9002]

Yes

[@AliAlZayer]

It is way to make kontakt more useful as a player not just aample to use or to play with

[@qtthagod]

I had to update my firmware for the keyboard. That will do the trick for sure. worked for me.

[@chrisevans5082]

You can tell this is a hard one for Jeff to show off when time-stretched sampled loops take up half the video. NI have totally lost their edge and no longer create innovative content or instruments. What is there is good quality, but I don't need more sampled content. Real pity.

[@lovelymusicnow4404]

Can any of these sample loops expansions be used as a instrument to played by a midi keyboard? like the synths and pad loobs and drum beat thats already made (loop) ..how can we use this as single insturments? is that possible?

[@maikkaune]

1:12 looooong overdue... and I don't think that 3rd-party instruments will update their products soon. BTW, would you mind to open the EDIT mode? I guess, it has not been updated at all!? FYI they seem to have new underlying framework.

[@michaeljames6741]

Hi Jeff! Thank you again for another great and informative video! I really appreciate how you aren't "extra demonstrative" like so many in this space. Just clear and concise information that's actually helpful. While the interface is interesting, I'm not sure of the value of yet another way to view chords in this new GUI for Kontact 8. What I'm really interested in is a MASCHINE software update, which has been promised but there's no official release date yet. The increased functionality of that update will decide if I go back to creating inside Reaper or continue creating in MASCHINE, and mastering in Reaper (with Izotope). But, I'm also adding some hard synths and considering building a difficult but achievable hybrid soft and hard synth setup around a MioXM MIDI interface. Have you been able to learn from anything you have seen about the details of the MASCHINE software update? And, I just saw a rumor... that NI has just discontinued a range of hardware with retailers. Things that make you go hmmmm....

[@liothomasart]

New sampler is great, leap is great, the cinematic guitars is niche I won't use it… maybe they will integrate that new sampler in Maschine ? That would be cool. I might update but waiting for Maschine Software (hardware) update really really, really bad.

[@yoursaxel]

I don't really understand, so you're preferring Kontakt 8 in your DAW over Komplete Kontrol, or when do you pick which one? Thanks for the Intro!

[@jefgibbons]

Good question! Kontakt 8 now works natively with the mk3 keyboards, so no need to load in Komplete Kontrol. Komplete kontrol for any other software you want to have NKS control over: ie Diva, Arturia, some Falcon stuff etc

[@triplebeam23]

Id be more interested in how it handles old libraries.. i have a ton of libraries that will probably never get a update.. that i wont part ways with.. and im just praying it is still usable

[@jefgibbons]

Good point! I'm guessing we're ok for now, but if Kontakt ever gets a big redesign we might have issues. Don't expect scaling to look nice, but that's not a big deal!

[@shaneharrison2193]

I do sample based hip hop production. Any recommendations for horns, strings etc just to layer on top and make my samples more interesting. I feel Komplete might not be the right direction.

[@tulanekenny]

Thanks as always for your videos! Unfortunately for me native access is messing up so collectors edition …no instruments will download :-(. All apps fine but until I figure out the issue I get no downloads for instruments

[@falsix]

I really thought komplete 15 would include Low End Strings and Modular and Crosstalk Piano. If it was clear from the start it wouldn’t be included I would have bought them with their intro pricing. But their marketing made them look as regular Ni releases.

[@DuchesseOsoleil]

Hello, I'm French, sorry for my English ... I discovered your channel ... which is great. I'm writing here for some information, as I don't know where to post my message ... I have a problem recording with my USB keyboard ... My recordings are all shifted, not to the right late, but to the left early. I don't know what to do anymore.... I've tried another USB cable, another keyboard, another sound card, nothing works. I've changed the asio value, I've also tested in ... Preferences / MIDI Recording / ... the ‘ASIO latency compensation enabled by default’ and the “Add latency during MIDI process” ... it doesn't change anything. Config : Windows 10 / Cubase 13 pro, same problem with Studio one 6. My pc is not connected to the internet, no anti-virus, windows security disabled too... Thanks in advance if you have any info.

[@Mark-vf8op]

Did you sync your midi clock to your main program…. Also ad an extra bar at the beginning to your project so your keyboard learns/knows the data/time before your actual projects ‘starts’ playing

[@luigicodeluppi8888]

Hi Jef. Your videos are always very interesting. I have an extra question if you can help me?. I have a problem with a plugin that to sound realistic has an original delay that puts it out of sync when it is together with other rhythmic sequences. In some programs there is the possibility of a parameter that gives the possibility of inserting a negative delay supporting the compensation of the delay plugin. Is there a parameter of this type on Maschine 2? I can't find it. Thanks

[@TerenceKearns]

I have complete 14 collectors edition. All the stuff I've been holding out for is in the collectors edition of 15 but the upgrade price is way too high. I was considering upgrading to Complete 15 standard but the only thing I would get for my money is a Kontakt upgrade. There's a couple of other new things in standard 15 but nothing i really care about. They could have included icon bass, for example. So thats a "no", from me. They don't have a good value proposition for me and I'm more than willing to spend cash when they do.

[@beatz04]

The interface looks kind of confusing with 2 different browsers, classic view, combinations, Leap etc, especially with Kontakt loaded into Komplete Kontrol.

[@park171]

Does the new Kontackt work with in Komplete kontrol MK2?

[@crimsonaudio4207]

How long does Kithara take to load for you?

[@bahgo]

Komplete Kontrol has chord sets, Maschine has chord sets, and now Kontakt has chord sets? Are they the same chord sets? Which of them has the most comprehensive set?

[@jefgibbons]

Actually… I’d say maschine chord sets has more chords, kontakt makes it easy to go up or down the octave… but so far I like the variety in Maschine better. Big difference is that you can add your own in Kontakt, can’t do that in Maschine!

[@DJ_Gloveboxx]

What DAW is that you’re using??? Great video by the way….

[@ExAfricaNovi]

cubase

[@wizmos74]

@@ExAfricaNovi this is Nuendo not Cubase

[@ExAfricaNovi]

@@wizmos74 Ah - thanks!

[@BEATZ4JESUS24SEVEN]

Jeff, I love the videos you put out. I love Your channel your tutorials, but I have to say I love Native Instraments has very poor customer care when it comes to their loyal customers and if this company is going to thrive, then they need to up the customer care service I’ve overspent like $1400 just in individual plug-ins in the last year from them. They now are incomplete 15 collectors when own 14collectors. And I just purchased 15 standard and I think I should not have to spend now one more penny and upgrade into collectors 15 when I’ve already given them $1400

[@b4time718]

Made same mistake years ago buying Akoustik Piano, B4 and Battery at retail. Later realizing I could have had them all in a Komplete bundle - plus lots of other stuff- for less money. I felt burned/ripped off and pissed at NI for awhile. But now i have to admit that was MY mistake. It is no secret and never has been than NI pricing is better in komplete bundles and individual retail AND that they have regular sales.

[@johnhill762]

How did you get Cubase to look like that? With the mix console open above the arranger page? That’s cool.

[@maikkaune]

Isn't it NUENDO ? The mix-console can be opened in a separate window.

[@jazzdude7014]

there are 4 different mixer windows ! and there are "WORKSPACES"

[@ardierr.2525]

hello, Is leap an alternative to arcade kit generator (never used cause don t want subscription but arcade kit generator seems so cool) ?

[@ohheyitskevinc]

Albion One will look awesome in a scaled up Kontakt UI 😂 just kidding. I just want to be able to read it finally. Since I make my own sample libraries, it’ll be interesting to discover what the new UI design/sizing requirements are or whether it’s free form.

[@domshov]

Especially the Ostinato programming!!!!

[@jefgibbons]

Would love to hear back from someone who makes their own libraries. It's weird that even Kithara looks chunky scaled up and it is brand new.

[@thombarath5862]

I actually like it because it add Komplete Kontrol features (I hate this software) to Kontakt. Now I can access my Maschine libraries. Cool. But what is the plan with Kontrol? Will I eventually be able to use my NKS vsts within my mk3 keyboard?

[@beatz04]

What do you hate about KK software ?

[@popshobbydungeon]

Its funny I cant get my MK3 S61 to play sounds (Like MIDI isn't connected) It's not my first rodeo so I know how to make sure my MK3 s61 is enabled in Midi yet no Midi........Any Ideas ?

[@delphisignal]

Does the custom edit mode (via wrench button) still look like something from Windows 98?

[@EdVizenor]

Go Jeff! Hey I have a question about Kontact maybe you might know. When I open it, the sensitivity is super quite when I play. I have to hit the keys HARD to get a sound. I am using a kontact keyboard. How do I set the default velocity?

[@jefgibbons]

On the new ones you just go to settings on the hardware, then page right at the top, then adjust the sensitivity. Let me know if that helps!

[@EdVizenor]

@@jefgibbons I found it. Was on the keyboard under settings and it had a few options. Lol. It took me over a year to figure this out. :)

[@andrewholcroft.1945]

Thanks

[@Inversible100]

Did they change anything to Massive X?

[@jefgibbons]

Doesn't look like it ☹

[@Inversible100]

@@jefgibbons :(

[@alain_de_frothcorn]

I'm having a nightmare just trying to download this upgrade. Sometimes Native Access doesn't show the new stuff, then it does - then it lets me download and then it fails. Servers must be struggling!

[@jefgibbons]

I have had many issues with Native Access myself! I have to have a TON of hard drive space, and make sure any form of VPN is turned off (even the iCloud Private Relay)

[@digitalzips]

Most of my owned products form Standard 14 and earlier are now in demo mode, and also Kontakt 8. Bit of a mess so far.

[@iyoseioshv549]

I've downloaded kontakt 8 and i was trying to use the new tools like chords and phrases and it kept doing weird things and playins stuff whithout me pressing anithing, it has been a nightmare to use on maschine 2 and in Fl studio. Honestly i am quite disappointed and waiting for a long time for it.

[@dreG450]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've been using Maschine 2 a lot less since you've switched your kontrol keyboard to mk3. I'm curious to see how your Maschine workflow has changed with the new controller and Komplete 15.

[@jefgibbons]

Definitely... I've been using it more in Cubase these days, reluctantly. Waiting for the new version of Maschine software, hoping it is a big leap forward (I haven't seen anything yet so I have no idea what it will look like). Honestly though, my videos are just quick ones these days... I will have more time in the future and will be able to get back to the regular Maschine programming. Thanks for not jumping ship!

[@joeymc5272]

I was planning on upgrading from ultimate to collectors this black friday but not sure if i even want to upgrade.

[@mjrisinsd6836]

Conflux looks like a Play series instrument with slightly updated interface. I don’t think Komplete 15 really has anything worth upgrading for. It’s turned into a bunch of sample libraries that really should just be combined into one instrument tbh. NI hasn’t released any real instruments in a long time. Also, I notice their videos are getting about 50% the engagement of Akai’s so suspect they are on their way towards failing.

[@bennednedben3689]

I have two Komplete Kontrol MK1 keyboards and am forced to use Kontakt 6 and Komplete Kontrol 3.16 because Native Instruments has decided to stop supporting them in 2023. The two keyboards cost me a total of 1000 euros and it reminds me every day never to buy anything from Native Instruments again.

[@MS7.7]

Does iPhone 6 get IOS 18? Grow up They didn't force you to do anything.

[@bennednedben3689]

@@MS7.7 CAN YOU TAKE A CALL WITH YOU IPHONE 6? they force me to buy a new keyboard if i want to use komplete kontrole...

[@StephaneGman]

I wish they had split paying like Ableton :(

[@PierreNangi]

Native Instruments: "Let's Add Reverb on Previous Stuff and Call it "NEW STUFF"....

[@anzatzi]

If you not using an NI controller, Komplete Kontrol is a nightmare!

[@-Hann]

please can you elaborate on how it's a nightmare? :)

[@anzatzi]

In desktop non-controller mode--all commands to Komplete Kontrol must be applied through a single drop-down menu. Also, the plug-in can not be displayed side by side with the presets. I could not get the macro controllers to display or work consistently.

[@-Hann]

@@anzatzi thank you! appreciate that! :)

[@cloudburstflight2748]

Well Jeff, you do not seem to be really happy with this update.

[@paulc7798]

Kontakt resizing is a joke.

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

Komplete 15 and Kontakt 8. So confusing

[@gtamediaproductions1]

$$$$$$$$$$$$ someone is making themselves filthy rich over this.

[@Azfurita]

still that stupid library view?

[@frauditorsubslickboots]

Exactly - bldy pain - unusable.

[@052RC]

Going by some of the comments, it looks like some of you have been able to contact NI. Does anyone know if that's true? Is there some way to contact them now? The reason I ask is, I bought a Maschine 3 back when it first came out, and its basically a $700 paper weight. During the initial software setup, I was prompted to call in to complete the process. I soon found out that there was no way to contact them. All you get is online troubleshooting, and that's no help. I don't want to bore anyone with a long post listing all the different things I tried. I haven't though about it in a while, so my main question is if something has changed with NI, and they're actually making contact with their customers? Its brand new and I haven't used it one time.

[@oddfellow8366]

I'm not sure about their contact information, but I'd be happy to help with setting it up. I have plenty of their hardware, including maschine and keyboards.

[@052RC]

@@oddfellow8366 Thanks for the offer. I don't have any issues setting anything up, my problem is I need them to unlock the serial number so I can use it. To be honest, its really my fault. When I bought it Guitar Center told me there were quite a few people having this issue. I just didn't think it would happen to me.

[@lionbird7176]

Native instruments support is about as bad as it gets. The company is a shame that way.