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@PKSparkxxDH
@PKSparkxxDH 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted Iron Chain to become a full archetype so bad. It was the first mill deck I enjoyed. But NOPE! Dead after one set.
@chrisshorten4406
@chrisshorten4406 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right! Ironchain Dragon was so cool!
@motxmod
@motxmod 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't help that it was an anime archetype from a very minor antagonist that only had one duel. I feel a similar way with Venom. At least Prof. Viper had a bigger role.
@chrisshorten4406
@chrisshorten4406 2 жыл бұрын
@@motxmod a sad truth
@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit
@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit 2 жыл бұрын
I love Iron Chains and Reactors, I feel your pain.
@Deadhead-kq4hr
@Deadhead-kq4hr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit guess since reactors relay Traps and spells and monsters don't know how support could help maybe there own spells and traps to get them our or some that stop other summoning methods such as fusion,ritual,synchro,xyz and Pendulum and links
@baragon84
@baragon84 2 жыл бұрын
I was pretty excited to see what an entire primineral archetype could be the two cards we got are pretty cool its like it could have been a whole archetype of waking the dragon cards.
@buffpeteydinky7748
@buffpeteydinky7748 2 жыл бұрын
Ya I remember grabbing 3 of of both cause I was excited cause I thought they were cool and I liked the effects but then they just never released any more and it made me kinda sad
@nyanbrox5418
@nyanbrox5418 2 жыл бұрын
well, that's artifacts isn't it? we already have that
@buffpeteydinky7748
@buffpeteydinky7748 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyanbrox5418 well kinda sorta but I really just liked the look of priminerals that and the way kongreat functions is different
@jesuisunstroopwafel
@jesuisunstroopwafel 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a board filled with Level 8 angry rocky apes. Even in the Spell/Trap Zone.
@Kyxlite
@Kyxlite 2 жыл бұрын
Another archetype that should have been added is the bounzer. Konami released this archetype in one set during zexal era, then never printed any support or any reprints for bounzer.
@cyberguardragon7291
@cyberguardragon7291 2 жыл бұрын
Iron Chains would like to sympathize with the Bounzer cards since they know what that feels like.
@shawnli4746
@shawnli4746 2 жыл бұрын
Has something to do with how nistro abandoned the deck to join the WDC in the anime And as such, Heroic archetype still gets support today
@WildKamuran
@WildKamuran 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberguardragon7291 I wanna see iron chain get more support and synchros, as much as I wanna are the rest of the performages....
@cyberguardragon7291
@cyberguardragon7291 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildKamuran I would love to see Iron Chain get some more support and Synchros as well. Just wondering if the support might include an Xyz card too? I personally wouldn't doubt it even if they are not a 5D's extra deck type. I was never really into the Performages too much. Not sure what was missing with them.
@DARKVEEMON1
@DARKVEEMON1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and also Butterspy
@emiliatezuka1356
@emiliatezuka1356 2 жыл бұрын
the moja archetype I wish it had more support its such a silly concept but i like it
@jet_set8648
@jet_set8648 2 жыл бұрын
m o n k e
@momiwantcake
@momiwantcake 2 жыл бұрын
Another archetype I wish they gave more support is iron chains. They wouldn't be good now cause all of their cards are outdated but I thought they could be a really cool archetype when they released at the time when the game was slower. It seems like konami likes to not finish a lot of archetypes.
@Merik2013
@Merik2013 2 жыл бұрын
they screwed the pooch on Iron Chains. they made the tuner the wrong level instead of the level it was in the show, so they can't even natively make Iron Chain Dragon.
@smonkk8556
@smonkk8556 2 жыл бұрын
in all fairness too trudge almost deserves it, being a character anyone whos watched the 5ds anime will recognise even if they stopped watching almost immediately. its a cool idea for a deck too, thematically, but its so annoying that any random side character from DM who was on screen for 5 minutes will consistently get new cards every now and then for that sweet sweet nostalgia pandering yet if you dare be born just a few later where you ended up watching a later season, you just end up seeing no follow up to promising ideas. and worse than that - the iron chain monsters we DID get dont even work properly
@legendslayer6558
@legendslayer6558 2 жыл бұрын
@@smonkk8556 fun fact, im the yugioh manga/season 0 trudge is a bully towards yugi, joey, and tristan
@jaernihiltheus7817
@jaernihiltheus7817 2 жыл бұрын
@@smonkk8556 Officer Tetsu Trudge/Tetsu Ushio *IS* a random side character from DM who was on screen for 5 minutes. Though Iron Chain isn't really his archetype but instead that one prison warden's. Tetsu's archetypes were (primarily) "Goyo"s and "Stygian"s. I don't mind either getting more support and in fact I support all three archetypes being given a huge buff (especially Stygians, they're only 4 cards and not even considered a proper "archetype" yet).
@yourdad6236
@yourdad6236 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaernihiltheus7817 he got 6 duels, I wouldn't just call him a random side character.
@TheLetterJ0
@TheLetterJ0 2 жыл бұрын
In my mind, there are some really interesting behind-the-scenes stories about cards like these, full of intrigue, betrayal, and office politics. Like the person behind War Rocks needed one more vote to ensure they'd make it into Blazing Vortex, so they promised the Materiactor person two card spots in exchange for their vote. But then the Materiactor person was caught playing MTG, so the whole office shunned them, and now Materiactors can't get any more support until that all gets resolved. It's probably not nearly that interesting in reality though.
@StargazerZ99
@StargazerZ99 2 жыл бұрын
Is that seriously why we haven't gotten Materiactor support lately? Because the guy was caught playing MTG? That's such a petty and stupid reason not to print more cards for a more interesting archetype than War Rocks. (War Rocks really should've been better too but their effects are so specific it just hurts them badly.)
@TheLetterJ0
@TheLetterJ0 2 жыл бұрын
@@StargazerZ99 No, that was me giving an example of the weird office drama that I like to imagine leads to decisions like that.
@StargazerZ99
@StargazerZ99 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLetterJ0 Oh. Pretty odd example. It would be so dumb if something like that was the case though, lol.
@TheLetterJ0
@TheLetterJ0 2 жыл бұрын
@@StargazerZ99 I considered going with the classic "caught sleeping with someone's wife," but I thought "caught playing MTG" was funnier.
@StargazerZ99
@StargazerZ99 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLetterJ0 XD I wonder if anyone at Konami actually does have some sort of rivalry/grudge/beef with MTG like that.
@DeathwishYouTube
@DeathwishYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Man the Materiactors look so sick, somehow I didn't even know they existed lol
@vincentalpiepedrozo2337
@vincentalpiepedrozo2337 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgonic, Heraldic Beast, Umbral, Malicevorous, Aquaactress the list goes on.
@ScionStorm1
@ScionStorm1 2 жыл бұрын
Those are all anime decks though. Eventually Konami will dig around and pull a handful of them up for new support.
@casmiry
@casmiry 2 жыл бұрын
H. Beasts are so cool though..
@astercat49
@astercat49 2 жыл бұрын
I do hope that we get materiactor support eventually. It may actually be an interesting deck depending on the cards it received.
@captainmunchlax8629
@captainmunchlax8629 2 жыл бұрын
Right, especially like if he said they granted effects no matter how they were attached as material, they could even have a pretty scary boss monster if done right
@jet_set8648
@jet_set8648 2 жыл бұрын
Their design looks great too. I'd love to see them go further with it.
@h3llg3ar
@h3llg3ar 2 жыл бұрын
Part of me feels like Materiactor was meant for Cyberdarks, since it's another Dragon option for Horn, Edge and keel, splashing in Hunter Dragons, but it never took off.
@jet_set8648
@jet_set8648 2 жыл бұрын
Gigaboros locks you into Xyz monsters. It's honestly really sad too because I'd love another archetype like Magikeys that can show off a strong side of normal monsters without being defined as "just another halq deck".
@ThatOneWeirdFlex
@ThatOneWeirdFlex Жыл бұрын
​@@jet_set8648i know right! I absolutely love Magikey so much I play it irl and in Master Duel. Though it is the best Halq combo deck I've played
@hiroshock
@hiroshock 2 жыл бұрын
Another archetype they abandoned is the Venom cards
@SelfReassuringTitle
@SelfReassuringTitle 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was really strange that the TCG made those two TCG exclusive Materiactor cards and the OCG never picked up the slack
@griffgoldsteinreference
@griffgoldsteinreference 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgonic & Umbral I would consider “forgotten” Archtypes too for sure
@CasaiAgicap
@CasaiAgicap 2 жыл бұрын
Umbrall deserved more love, God damn
@casmiry
@casmiry 2 жыл бұрын
Umbral are so cool and work pretty well as an engine for me in Duel Links.
@undeadinside3571
@undeadinside3571 2 жыл бұрын
Umbral was ok, but could've been great. Gorgonic should have had way more support. I loved the theme of it! Gorgonic guardian is a great boss for the time it was released. I still just wanna see moki moki get an archetype
@jet_set8648
@jet_set8648 2 жыл бұрын
Malicevorous monsters. A trio of level 2 fiend-type main deck monsters that could synergize well with the rank 2 numbers and umbral horrors.
@undeadinside3571
@undeadinside3571 2 жыл бұрын
@@jet_set8648 malicevorous were fork, spoon, and knife. Idk what they could add that would stay in that theme. Maybe chopsticks? Idk what they could add
@GrimmsDeath
@GrimmsDeath 2 жыл бұрын
Materiactor isn't that old. They'll hopefully expand them later. That being said, game has a lot of Dark and dragon counter stuff so they aren't that strong.
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 2 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting the massive amount of dark & dragon support cards.
@half_blood
@half_blood 2 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting that a dark & dragon deck has been one of the best decks for quite a while now.
@sparano3138
@sparano3138 2 жыл бұрын
DRAGON LINK LETS GOOO BEST DECK BABY
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparano3138 It isn't as good as it used to be. But Borrelend is coming to the TCG in a few months.
@sparano3138
@sparano3138 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 borrelend doesn’t fit the new playstyle of d link these days. The new albaz cards are better support tbh. I do think borrelend has potential though in a more combo heavy build that plays cards like world legacy guardragon over cards like ttt and droplets.
@amazedalloy
@amazedalloy 2 жыл бұрын
Materiactor Gigaboros seems like it was designed around Materiactor hand traps
@MsMiDC
@MsMiDC 2 жыл бұрын
that would actually be a super cool niche to be fair.
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 2 жыл бұрын
It would be good if Konami released a set that has support for old decks like the ones mentioned in the video.
@EinDose
@EinDose 2 жыл бұрын
That'd be great, but there's so many neglected old archetypes that you'd have to make it a Hidden Arsenal-style series to get them all, since missing some will just make fans of those archetypes disappointed. Then there's the matter of printing support for cards that were only printed once years ago, but given some of those archetypes were only like, four cards I don't think reprinting will be too difficult!
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 2 жыл бұрын
@@EinDose Ok
@SHOGUNTE
@SHOGUNTE 2 жыл бұрын
A set for support for old archetypes? Oh! No problem! More Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes support coming right up!
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 2 жыл бұрын
@@SHOGUNTE You’re not wrong though 😂
@CD-Gaming
@CD-Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
*Red-Eyes has entered the chat* *Elemental HERO has entered the chat* *Destiny HERO has entered the chat* Destiny HERO: " You what?"
@matthewdodd1262
@matthewdodd1262 2 жыл бұрын
Priminerals remind me of Interplanetarypurplythorny Dragon and Beast. Yes they are linked by their 'archtype' name (should be mentioned that neither are actually true archetypes), but don't mesh at all. They should just be used in different decks and not look for ways to make them a true archtype.
@MsMiDC
@MsMiDC 2 жыл бұрын
What makes something a ''true archetype''?
@thiagodias5530
@thiagodias5530 2 жыл бұрын
@@MsMiDC have a effect that affects cards by a Key word present on cards name that are from the same archetype. Ex: Bounzer, Dark Scorpion, HERO, Morphtronic, etc....
@elijahpadilla5083
@elijahpadilla5083 2 жыл бұрын
@@MsMiDC So, "archetypes" and "series" are both used to define groups of cards; an archetype requires a keyword in the name of cards from the archetype to be applied by 1 or more support cards, a series is a handful of grouped cards that share a theme or playstyle and no official keyword. For instance, Digital Bugs aren't actually an archetype, they're a series; nothing in or tangentially related to Digital Bugs actually makes the jump from series to archetype; it's all references to "Level 3 LIGHT Insect monsters" and "LIGHT Insect Xyz monsters". In a weirder example, Monarch monsters aren't an archetype, but the Monarch Spell/Trap Cards are. All support for Monarch monsters refers to the statline ("monsters with 2400 ATK and 1000 DEF, or 2800 ATK and 1000 DEF"), but the Monarch Spell/Trap Cards refer to each other by name, through cards like Tenacity, Pantheism, and Prime. Hilariously, all cards with "Guardian" in the name (except a chosen few mistranslated ones, like "Celtic Guardian" and "The Reliable Guardian") are part of the "Guardian" archetype, thanks to the existence of Arsenal Summoner.
@jet_set8648
@jet_set8648 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Primenerals aren't a mouthful and a half to say/
@chucklesdeclown8819
@chucklesdeclown8819 Жыл бұрын
​@@elijahpadilla5083 I would still consider digital bugs and monarchs an archetype since they all have a same naming scheme and whatnot. I mean we would still call those decks by the naming scheme of their cards and it's not like we can call them "piles of cards that so happen to work together" ya know what I mean.
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 2 жыл бұрын
The abandoned "archtype" that I really like are the Prime Material cards. They seem to be based around protective effects activated by discard. Any further development of the archtype could emphasize, and maybe provide recursion from the graveyard to hand to keep up the protection. I've theorycrafted cards for this archtype before. Always fun, but I'd like to see more official cards that expand on this archtype!
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
Prime Material Dragon was more Monarch-like in how it played. Single tribute, 2400 ATK, good effect for the time and a bonus of outing Burn Decks and outright countering them if they weren't using Lava Golem or Volcanic Queen. Prime Material Falcon was kind of a victim of the time it was released since it came out when Stardust Dragon existed, but was also seemingly deliberately designed worse than its Dragon counterpart. An archetype of it could be cool. But their cards cannot be generic as we do not need more generic negation in a game that already has too much of it.
@Mt.Berry-o7
@Mt.Berry-o7 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved prime material dragon. I'd love to see that deck expanded upon.
@StargazerZ99
@StargazerZ99 2 жыл бұрын
That's also ironic when you consider the fact that Prime Material Dragon was used quite a bit back in the day. Would've loved to see more of that archetype too.
@twerk_it_like_nae_nae7979
@twerk_it_like_nae_nae7979 Жыл бұрын
It's not really an "Archtype", more like of a "series"
@postalsubset2568
@postalsubset2568 2 жыл бұрын
Materiactor could have been a good rank 3 deck if konami knew how to make good xzys outside of utopias and water xyzs
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 2 жыл бұрын
What about zoodiac.
@postalsubset2568
@postalsubset2568 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aceshot-uu7yx you mean zues turbo?
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 2 жыл бұрын
@@postalsubset2568 I meen the tier zero deck rate took 32/32 top spots at a YCS and has two of its best cards banned.
@postalsubset2568
@postalsubset2568 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aceshot-uu7yx yeah that's zues turbo not zoodiacs
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 2 жыл бұрын
@@postalsubset2568 your talking about 2020. I'm talking about 2017 before zeus came out.
@davidpotts7116
@davidpotts7116 2 жыл бұрын
The Matereactor cards looked so cool, and could be a fun deck swapping out a lot of monsters to have different effects. Gigaboros still has one of my favorite designs in the whole game.
@Trackaxion
@Trackaxion 2 жыл бұрын
The "Materiactor" cards feel like a prototype for the "Magikey" deck.
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE 2 жыл бұрын
Primineral Kongreat has seen some experimentation casual yugioh as it's a main deck rock monster that can be special summoned which can help with fossils getting level 8 monsters into the gy.
@salehabuluay8158
@salehabuluay8158 2 жыл бұрын
You know volcanics are on here
@SheruMuko
@SheruMuko 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly they are.
@aaronvillanueva3592
@aaronvillanueva3592 2 жыл бұрын
war rock copium
@BigManWithNoRide
@BigManWithNoRide 2 жыл бұрын
Unironically Primineral Kongreat was good in the side deck when dytron was full power....
@gstellar96
@gstellar96 2 жыл бұрын
Mfs act like just because they don't get a card every set they're "abandoned"
@spamsam568
@spamsam568 2 жыл бұрын
Mandstrong looks like a really cool pokemon, I hope primeminerals get more support
@ezkhel
@ezkhel 2 жыл бұрын
Butterspy is an archetype where I'd love to see some good support. Maybe some insect and warrior butterspy extenders would be good and a link monster that can turbo out their xyz monster.
@nicoofthenight8403
@nicoofthenight8403 2 жыл бұрын
Yubel as well Only 13 years of waiting for new support
@ThePianimo
@ThePianimo 2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt there a neos fusion support card?
@nicoofthenight8403
@nicoofthenight8403 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianimo Neos By itself does nothing for Yubel And OCG only
@themightyai-5302
@themightyai-5302 2 жыл бұрын
I did try to use the gorilla in my Fossil deck, but I found another level 8 Rock monster to use instead. It's a bit sad that they died right after release, I think they could be neat as small archetype that works like a tech option for rock types or something.
@willsoe
@willsoe 2 жыл бұрын
I'd kill for some more suship support. An entire suship deck would be so neat
@Realblack_m0nster
@Realblack_m0nster 2 жыл бұрын
A suship Buffet Battleship. You can Xyz summon this using any Suship Xyz monster (getting all the Xyz material) or 2+ Suships. Then some other effects that's good.
@willsoe
@willsoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@Realblack_m0nster Unironically need more ways to recycle rice suship, even though its already got so many ways to search it. Something like being able to detach a material from a suship XYZ and add it directly to the hand. It's not like any of the XYZs are win conditions
@Steel_Bison
@Steel_Bison 2 жыл бұрын
I said a long time ago that the big boss monster for suships should be called "YUMato" as an homage to the real life Japanese battleship Yamato
@olyviermonteau4300
@olyviermonteau4300 2 жыл бұрын
Payne 96 is still limping on..
@kinglysander100
@kinglysander100 2 жыл бұрын
Abandoned themes Neos, Yubel and Neo-Spacians. Can we please get some support. Oh and Rainbow Dragon in my opinion
@edhikurniawan
@edhikurniawan 2 жыл бұрын
Crystal beasts? I once won 2nd in tournament using them. Would be lovely to see the continuation.
@Oblitherator28
@Oblitherator28 2 жыл бұрын
The "Celtic" archetype should have made it here. Celtic Guardian, Obnoxious Celtic Guard, and Celtic Guard of Noble Arms are the only members and it's begging for a RotD-esque revival
@elrompecabezasdelmilenio6210
@elrompecabezasdelmilenio6210 2 жыл бұрын
those are more like "retrains" the only thing that ties them is the one that has draw eff
@hydradriveemperor9371
@hydradriveemperor9371 2 жыл бұрын
Materiactors seemed cool and I don't get why they never made more
@tzarecehle979
@tzarecehle979 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Sky Scourge become a full fledged archetype. Sure they started as just replacements for BLS and CED but since they got a new monster gives me hope that there could be more.
@thomasbitmail7937
@thomasbitmail7937 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh thank you for mentioning mah boi Clausolas and his mission for searching the **yet** non-existent Nekroz Trap card.
@HaydenX
@HaydenX 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still holding out hope for new Dark Scorpions support...optimism is extremely unhealthy on this subject.
@ScionStorm1
@ScionStorm1 2 жыл бұрын
I just really want a fusion with artwork of Zaloog and Meanae side by side('The Dark Magicians' style) titled "Dark Scorpion Romancers"
@alexgamer1556
@alexgamer1556 2 жыл бұрын
Here Inb4 someone inevitably mentions Volcanics. EDIT: it was literally the first thing mentioned in the video.
@lumiverinightstar228
@lumiverinightstar228 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to try materiactor if they get a full archetype, they seem like they'd have some amazing and very simple consistency not commonly found nowadays. The XYZ monster's effect is basically free monster search. As for the rock monkeys, I have a friend who'd love them.
@infirmatube1556
@infirmatube1556 2 жыл бұрын
Primineral Kongreat is actually a really cool tech that can be played in going second strategies to pop cards on your opponent's field.
@MsMiDC
@MsMiDC 2 жыл бұрын
except its super slow, why not play raigeki/dark hole at that point.
@infirmatube1556
@infirmatube1556 2 жыл бұрын
@@MsMiDC Kongreat can destroy spells / traps.
@TheLetterJ0
@TheLetterJ0 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MsMiDC It's not any slower than any other going-second board breaker card. Its real issues are that it targets, it only destroys two cards, monster negates are common these days, it is very telegraphed, and it is not likely to be useful if you topdeck it. It does give you a free level 8 monster to use to make plays though, and there are probably some decks that could make good use of that. It's not a good replacement for Raigeki, but it might be a reasonable replacement for Twin Twisters in some decks.
@MsMiDC
@MsMiDC 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLetterJ0 Thing is, the effect will never go off. First it has to live an entire opponents turn, which is never going to happen. Its super telegraphed, and has to be flipped face up, so destroying it by card effect completely dodges the effect, and summoning it on your own turn because of a handtrap doesnt do anything because you cant flip summon it immediatly. Just play Harpie's Feather Duster/Lightning Storm at that point. It's too much hoops to jump through for a Twin Twister like effect.
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 2 жыл бұрын
People might get on me for this because it's only a subarchtype of a fairly well support archetype, but the NEX Neo-Spacians have been totally ignored and really designed in an impossible way to effectively use. They only got 2 NEX forms and 1 of the fusions despite printing all 5 Neo-Spacians on the cards. Unfortunate since these are the only Neos-Neo-Spacian fusions that do not return to the hand at the end of the turn. They need an errata so that they aren't treated as the same card as their base neo-spacian forms and way more support as they could have a lot of potential to make neo-spacians a fun casual archetype without having to just replace all the originals with new neo-spacians with better, modern effects
@ScionStorm1
@ScionStorm1 2 жыл бұрын
The completionist in me is begging Konami to finish the NEX-Spacians and NEXNeos fusions.
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScionStorm1 YES!!! Someone else who feels the same as I do. Plus, it'll just be fun for casuals to have Neos fusions that don't instantly leave the field at the end of every turn (plus I am really curious how they would change the NEX Flare Neos and Air Neos effects, since they don't have costs to remove like Aqua Neos's discard)
@rgjs4537
@rgjs4537 2 жыл бұрын
Satellar hás been abandoned too, deck desperatelly needs heavy suport, evilswarm too
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 2 жыл бұрын
If lswarm gets support that makes it no Ophion Turbo, maybe. And what can you give Satellarknights that they don't already have that wouldn't be absolutely stupid? In-archetype Call/Oasis?
@rgjs4537
@rgjs4537 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kylora2112 satellar is too slow unfortunatelly. They need extenders, New Monsters, need follow-up, need hand trap resiliênce and New Boss Monster. Evilswarm needs a Omni negate and New spells that can cause follow-up, floodgate like searcheable by ophion etc
@ninjafurret2280
@ninjafurret2280 2 жыл бұрын
Year another “archetype” that got abandoned were the Wicked Gods. The idea of evil counterparts to the Egyptian Gods is a cool idea, but since they sort of did that with the Sacred Beasts from GX kind of explains why the Wicked Gods never got anything new (still wish they did though).
@ScionStorm1
@ScionStorm1 2 жыл бұрын
They never got anything new because they were a spin off manga boss villain cards.
@TheTrueLeafless
@TheTrueLeafless 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Primineral cards had a theme with "reacting to what your opponent does".
@Kawaiisikkusu
@Kawaiisikkusu 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, might be becomes an archetype with most various kind of effect (instead of the whole archetypes has that one similiar effect). So diverse
@fishontheinternetz3641
@fishontheinternetz3641 2 жыл бұрын
With Primineral Kongreat I like the fact that even pack filler has been so influenced by power creep, it is entirely self-sufficient by itself and has an easy summoning condition. It would be a non-archetypical Main Box UR filler in Duel Links, on the furthest right side of the screen.
@agreactor2585
@agreactor2585 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, let's be honest here, a whole video can be made from archetypes that never saw the light of day, like Super Defense Robot, Jurrac and a lot of pendulum archetypes like Dinomist and Igknight. Sadly this whole thing needs A LOT of research, because you essentialy don't even know what you are searching.
@GroudFrank
@GroudFrank 2 жыл бұрын
I think Konami is learning how to play the long game here. Look how long it took for support for Egyptian Gods and Dark Magicians took. They can lay the foundation, sit on it and pull the trigger when they are ready - possibly to help combat a tier 0 deck. Particularly with Materiactor, they can give the archetype whatever effect mechanic it wants since what we have is so vague.
@casbalt7763
@casbalt7763 Жыл бұрын
I think thats more about cashing in on nostalgia after the fact rather than long term planning.
@sarratuggarites4138
@sarratuggarites4138 2 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for the Interplanatorypurplythorny series to become an archetype they need some love.
@GnomallyOrcward
@GnomallyOrcward 2 жыл бұрын
My theory for the priminerals: I think their idea was some kind of punish archetype where each one special summons itself when your opponent does something. Kongreat is probably better if you force them to discard, but it punishes self discard too. I picture a highly reactive deck where your opponent would have to try and figure out which pirminerals you've got or risk you special summoning another giant monkey.
@izaiahsundquist6877
@izaiahsundquist6877 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more elemental chaos support so that Desert Twister, Frost and Flame Dragon, and Loud Cloud the Storm Dragon are not alone. I guess Fenrir, Mythic Tree Dragon, Mythic Water Dragon, and After the Storm Exist; but those aren't exactly good support.
@MyWillBeDone
@MyWillBeDone 2 жыл бұрын
Gravekeepers have been treated poorly. That's an archetype that has SO MUCH potential. Preventing graveyard effects disturbs so many decks. Given some support these guys could be beast. Some Synchros, links, more ways to get them out. While I guess you can say this about any archetype, I think gravekeepers would be one of the better archetypes in a theoretical "Most Improved" category
@natedog8281
@natedog8281 2 жыл бұрын
They’re my favorite archetype, could definitely use some xyz support
@Rizwaan122
@Rizwaan122 2 жыл бұрын
I had fun playing gishki zielgigas turbo. Its a 3200 atk tank who has a luck based non targeting, non destruction removal while also letting yo draw a card, making it very powerful. Also as its level 10 you can easily go into all the fun rank 10s like the trains and the spiders. Wouldn't mind seeing some support for the gishkis
@DUDULALALALALALA
@DUDULALALALALALA 2 жыл бұрын
I loved playing Gishkis back in the days but it's really not that competitive
@Rizwaan122
@Rizwaan122 2 жыл бұрын
@@DUDULALALALALALA I've been able to do some cool stuff with it going second, at best you can summon Zielgigas 5 times per turn, letting u draw 5 while bouncing up to 5 cards. Having to pay life points also fuels the rank 10 spider xyz. Going first tho all I could really do is Dragun or just set 1 and pass
@ameryaser3987
@ameryaser3987 Жыл бұрын
Materiactor heart of the underdog deck. Build a deck with only level 3 normal monsters except gigarda and the spell card heart of the underdog. Use giggarda's effect to special summon a level 3 monster and xyz summon gigaboros then draw as much as possible using heart of the underdog then hit for otk. Just came up with it right now. It's jank. But it's my jank.
@cyberseking3170
@cyberseking3170 2 жыл бұрын
I like the primeineral idea, heck I thought of a primeineral name for a card and its pretty decent "primineral silver back" a play on words for a silver back gorilla and silver as a metal. And the idea for the other archetype is nice but if it gets support I'll be more interested since we have alot of archetypes that seem to do stuff like it so it feels the same.
@xy394
@xy394 2 жыл бұрын
World Premiere serve no purpose other than Pack filler
@reaflor91
@reaflor91 Жыл бұрын
I was really enamored by the concept of Priminerals, in both playstyle and aesthetics. The way both Mandstrong and Kongreat were summoned are basically like how they're hidden in the rocks and interacting with them reveals their true form. I was hoping they were gonna be the advent of the modern Flip deck, but I guess not. I'm still holding out hope for them though, and I really hope that they can print more support for the DK Crew.
@Gormag0n
@Gormag0n 2 жыл бұрын
I wish decks like battlin boxers, these ones listed, umbrals, duston, mecha phantom beast, etc, got some support to make them playable. Or genex. Or archfiend proper
@DavidEllner
@DavidEllner 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on archetypes that have the least showing in tournaments but can still be fun In 2022 :) I def wanna make more fun decks in the future even though I never have time for tournaments. Even if the deck is awful, def wanna see if I can make creative ways for them. I def like the cards you showcased today 🔥
@xTxCxMx
@xTxCxMx 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when kongreat was revealed. Same set as Gallant Granite so people were actually kinda hype for it thinking there was gonna be more support to let it function as some sort of "anti-handtrap" as part of a new rock deck.
@Solidwake
@Solidwake 2 жыл бұрын
In the last set we got a one of in the form of "geminize". I can't remember it's full name but this is a great start to possibly building Gemini's back up. The problem is is that we only have one official card and I even try to using Google translate to search anything that might be similar to it in Japanese and I think they're legit is only one card of this possible archetype. We really do need more of this card because it gives a promising new idea to Gemini's and could potentially be a fun deck.
@ScionStorm1
@ScionStorm1 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for more Prime Material monsters.
@nanchoparty
@nanchoparty Жыл бұрын
Both of the archetypes were ones I was hoping to sink my teeth into. I like it when an archetype is unplayable at first release and gets fleshed out later. I was on the edge of my seat with every Deskbot reveal, as they only got a max of 2 cards per set. Suship was another one I really like because of how slowly they release the support. I don't want Suship to be good, I want Suship to be the best it can be as a pure concept. Primineral and Materiactor turned out like Malicevorous though. No support, and there will never be support.
@anthonymurray545
@anthonymurray545 2 жыл бұрын
those are two of the archetypes that I want konami to give support to. Others being, but not limited to; chemicritter, triamid, phantasm spiral, ojama (and the most important) ally of justice!
@calich33sehead
@calich33sehead 2 жыл бұрын
Good ol’ Konami. They make a lot of Yugioh cards that they must know no one is going to play.
@Rizwaan122
@Rizwaan122 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 jesus christ that artwork is ridiculous!
@duoshinX
@duoshinX 2 жыл бұрын
Yubel, for the love of god, needs her stand alone support.
@JohnnyMacs19
@JohnnyMacs19 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah all it really needs is a fire king island type card that is meant to work with it. Something that would be cool is give it a foolish burial but instead of sending to the graveyard it destroys from the deck triggering yubel
@duoshinX
@duoshinX 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention hand traps or something that'll force your opponent to attack yubel
@JohnnyMacs19
@JohnnyMacs19 2 жыл бұрын
@@duoshinX this would probably be too OP but force attack then destroy yubel at the end of the battle phase
@harvenger2256
@harvenger2256 2 жыл бұрын
Umbral Horror is definitely forgotten
@thingmate7361
@thingmate7361 Жыл бұрын
the Priminerals feel more like MTG cards with a yugioh spin than regular yugioh cards. That is to say, they're meant to be draft support more than an archetype but because YGO is so archetype heavy they had to tie the two together as opposed to just giving them synergistic effects. Probably also why they don't synergise; in a constructed format its meh but in Draft it was probably busted
@kitelanford
@kitelanford Жыл бұрын
Kinda wished we can do a YGO fork that IS draft support but mostly trying to find a Draft group willing
@XenoDBlade
@XenoDBlade 2 жыл бұрын
I pray that konami gives materiactor support and doesn't just make it a dumb ass engine
@ianjoystodab
@ianjoystodab 2 жыл бұрын
The dragons look amazing and I only wish they made more of those. Would definitely use them as I am a really big fan of XYZs. I really don't watch the show (zexle) but I love the xyzs mechanics, I only read the original yugioh (dule monsters) manga's and RC one's to.
@naser3000x
@naser3000x 2 жыл бұрын
Materiactors seems interesting its weird that they got abandoned because the XYZ does really do anything
@Soraking007
@Soraking007 2 жыл бұрын
I think materiactor where meant to get more in the set they dropped in and i subsequent sets but space is tight in sets so maybe theyre waiting for a new set to bring them over. I hope so its the only deck im interested in seeing come to fruition
@xaviorlemp4206
@xaviorlemp4206 2 жыл бұрын
Materiactor's could be worded more like gagaga mancer, as detach effects rather than digibugs
@Slothptimal
@Slothptimal 2 жыл бұрын
I figured you'd've gone with much older stuff - Spiders, Sphinxes, something from way back that should've had support in the last 15 years.
@86thsamurai
@86thsamurai 2 жыл бұрын
Kongreat is a great side against the right decks. I run it at three in my side.
@zyro7756
@zyro7756 2 жыл бұрын
Scared to think what the rest of your side deck looks like
@86thsamurai
@86thsamurai 2 жыл бұрын
@@zyro7756 If it works, it works.
@zyro7756
@zyro7756 2 жыл бұрын
@@86thsamurai just because it “technically” works doesn’t mean it’s good
@daosxion776
@daosxion776 2 жыл бұрын
who has time for these decks? Blue-eyes, red-eyes, and dark magician need another support card!
@kechitiabderrahmane6357
@kechitiabderrahmane6357 2 жыл бұрын
The strange thing is that even red-eyes doesn't get support
@jonathan-6958
@jonathan-6958 2 жыл бұрын
i tech priminerals in my counter fairy deck cus after the first game most go for the backrow first.
@Necroxion
@Necroxion 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a card that could send cards from your own hand or field to the GY, but you could choose to treat it as destruction by battle
@Kawaiisikkusu
@Kawaiisikkusu 2 жыл бұрын
I think those already existed? I forgot the name
@maddeeps5520
@maddeeps5520 2 жыл бұрын
Fire Kings kind of do that already, it's not "destroy by battle" but they specifically say they "destroy" cards from your own hand which triggers the "when this card is destroyed" effects the Fire Kings you yeet to the Graveyard for the effect have
@ForeverAlone86
@ForeverAlone86 2 жыл бұрын
need a good dragon listing
@huckyfunky9852
@huckyfunky9852 2 жыл бұрын
More gem knight support oaa
@TheSonDow
@TheSonDow 2 жыл бұрын
Primineral goes crazy in a fossil deck.
@thetwentyseventh27
@thetwentyseventh27 2 жыл бұрын
"standing here. I realised. There's only 3. Gandora monsters. Lunalight got X banned. And Gigarays cannot banish from the graaaave."
@Wolfyowns
@Wolfyowns Жыл бұрын
Honestly I love to see more venom cards for venom swamp and the snakes, I really enjoy those cards when they first came out and try to make a deck around it. Still waiting for more someday.
@tragiclittlepikachu9632
@tragiclittlepikachu9632 2 жыл бұрын
Konami should focus on improving existing archetypes rather than making new ones.
@Anytyme06
@Anytyme06 2 жыл бұрын
They also abandoned naturia
@Auctvix7801
@Auctvix7801 2 жыл бұрын
they just supported it
@somerandomweeb4836
@somerandomweeb4836 2 жыл бұрын
@@Auctvix7801 that's sylvans
@Anytyme06
@Anytyme06 2 жыл бұрын
@@Auctvix7801 what set?
@simoncipator5790
@simoncipator5790 2 жыл бұрын
Naturia has pretty much the Ice Barrier Syndrome (pre Structure Deck): Having incredibly broken boss monsters but no consistant way to actually summon them.
@TheReturnOfGeorgePingas
@TheReturnOfGeorgePingas 2 жыл бұрын
They abandoned jurracs pretty hard.
@austinwilburn1772
@austinwilburn1772 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been in the game for years but are they still printing new Blackwing cards?
@meistercerberus4070
@meistercerberus4070 2 жыл бұрын
There are some more. Guardians. Celtic Earth Fairy ( that one is funny af ) They forget the whole Structure Deck R Series. There was a time we got every 6 months one Strucuture deck R, now we got maybe 1 in 12 months. And in the TCG we got them every 2 years.
@WarTex
@WarTex Жыл бұрын
Metaphys will ALWAYS be my favourite deck, because the concept of retraining older Dragons into these Wyrm monsters that can banish was SOOO cool and then ... yea.
@ghostbuster-gr121
@ghostbuster-gr121 2 жыл бұрын
Konami give my lightsworns more support
@Shugunou
@Shugunou 2 жыл бұрын
A very old and interesting one is Gather Your Mind. It adds any "Gather Your Mind" card but it is the only "Gather Your Mind" card. This makes it the smallest archetype in the game and leaves the question as to why it didn't just say to add another copy of itself or even specify that it had to be a Spell.
@raytep7119
@raytep7119 2 жыл бұрын
Congreat is a pretty good card but not in a comp meaning
@andrewwallach1385
@andrewwallach1385 2 жыл бұрын
knightmare's man, i want them to be a full on archetype, not just a series of extra deck monsters that share a name and style
@zyro7756
@zyro7756 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like being an extra deck theme is what they were designed to do
@aleksandarpocanic4659
@aleksandarpocanic4659 2 жыл бұрын
Lv 2 Geminis, Lvs 6, 7 and 8 synchros for Crystrons also spells for them, maybe at least one more trap, Cloudian contact fusion monster/s and/or links, Ancient Gear main deck more little monsters, Yubel so much cards missing, T.G. lv 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 9 synchros and decent removal in that archetype, Deskbots also lack more removal options...................................I could go on and on...................
@Vacxy
@Vacxy 2 жыл бұрын
Literally 90% of the decks are abandoned or not continued. This is why I stay in Shadoverse.
@WildKamuran
@WildKamuran Жыл бұрын
Performage = 1 wave of support and plushfire getting sent to the Banlist realm to basically ROT. While Anime only cards that can't be Changed or buffed to Better support performage strategy goes dark staying Unprinted. At this point (6 years now) they're more likely to introduce Dennis macfield as a DL Chracter and MAYBE make of his anime only cards as actual card s in the ARC V world......... *T H E S H O W M U S T G O O N ! ! ! ! !*
@NESHYBeast
@NESHYBeast 2 жыл бұрын
Primineral is the only theme that could switch me off crystal beasts
@PAXperMortem
@PAXperMortem 2 жыл бұрын
For me it's Orichalcos
@mageside
@mageside 2 жыл бұрын
The Prophecy have been sidelined for that dipshit Aleister The Invoker for far too long, I don't care if Konami thinks they're cute or clever for making stupid little Aleister Crowley references with the Magistus or the Invoked or whatever stupid storyline they have in place afterward and I care even less that Aleister The Invoker is a more competitively viable option than High Priestess is, because all it takes is a flip of the switch from Konami to say "ok let's make this deck tier one", it could be one card, it could three or five or whatever, but the point is Prophecy need support more, I'd love for nothing more than a return to the XYZ mechanic that was supposed to stem from the deck, that itself is an abandoned theme, even these days Prophecy make much better Link fodder than they XYZ materials... I want the prophecy back, the deck that stepped up and prevented the Dragon Rulers from dominating 2012, I wanna see what The Fool/Reaper/World of Prophecy and of course High Priestess have been upto since they sent Endymion home packing after his little invasion failed. I see a metric ton of fan art for waifus in the game who haven't even done 1/3 of what High Priestess done for the game much less for Spellcaster decks in general in a time when Konami didn't make competitive spellcaster decks at all.. yet she only has a 1/9 of the art Verre has.. Sorry but Konami have ignored Prophecy for far too long and we're closing in the 10th anniversary of The Prophecy's debut in Return of The Duelist, and seeing the lack of legacy support for Prophecy/madolche/dragon rulers is rather upsetting..
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