Konami Just Banned The Yugioh World Champion For The Dumbest Reason....

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[@CanadianLannister]

I think Konami defintley shouldn't call this "cheating," because now an actual cheater can just say "Oh, I got banned for trying to resubmit my decklist. Just like the former world champion."

[@brandonscott5544]

GREAT MEGACAPITALG YU-GI-OH BANNED SERIOUSLY DUMDEST REASON.

[@imnotacat5299]

​@@brandonscott5544stop smoking crack and slow it down, brother. You aren't even speaking in complete sentences lol

[@garf02]

I mean, on paper, it makes sense to not being able to drop and change your deck cause that can give rise to the possibility that you "canvas" other peoples deck and then re-submit a better deck from what the overall of players had.

[@gubigubigubigubi]

What I'm getting from this video is DO NOT ENTER REMOTE DUEL EVENTS

[@DirtCheapFU]

Just make sure, the deck that you registered with, is the deck that you bring.

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

​@@DirtCheapFUdude got a 3 year ban for drinking at one, how much of a snowflake can you be mtg literally had sanctioned pub crawl limited turniments for new sets in Portland

[@gmradio2436]

Wait. He submitted a deck that was illegal and it was accepted. He found out and dropped out and corrected the error, resubmitted, and was banned? Is this just an event manager on a power trip?

[@MegaCapitalG]

Correct, but according to the rules you aren’t allowed to re-enter. I assume it’d usually just be a dq

[@gmradio2436]

@@MegaCapitalG This feels like someone covering their own behind. I hope that this is resolved fairly and quickly.

[@brandoncastellano1858]

If he was allowed to play with the missing cards, say he accidentally slipped in a banned card, could he not take it out afterwards it was submitted?

[@DirtCheapFU]

No one has verified. Whether the decklist registered was illegal, or the deck that he brought didnt reflect the registered decklist.

[@gmradio2436]

@@DirtCheapFU You have somehow weaponized grammar. The decklist themselves are a matter of record. That part can be verified.

[@Weareonenation303]

Imagine banning someone because of bad judges.

[@jk844100]

For anyone who wants to know what Stevie did, he posted a video called “how to cheat in Yugioh”. The contents of the video was telling players how to avoid getting cheated and what to watch out for and when it’s apparent to call a judge, he never once actually tells anyone “how” to cheat. He got banned for a video title, not the content of the video.

[@Swanjeff12]

That’s on Konami since they never watched the video so yeah that’s bad on their end

[@YarnLalms711]

The fact that Paulie has taken this suspension with grace compared to some others is a breath of fresh air. What happened with Paulie definitely feels like a genuine mistake and him actually owning up to it where we even agree that what's gone down isn't entirely fair. There should be more than just cheating and severe. The disqualification from the tournament was honestly enough. Don't think he should be treated differently, but don't think Konami should be too harsh or have a defined term cover a vast amount of potential violations.

[@fortant691]

I didn't know it was even possible to submit an invalid deck list and get registered. Whether you don't have enough cards or go above the limit on a card, your registration is rejected right there and then.

[@GreaterGewd]

Wrong cards

[@cyber5787]

As you said, only disqualify him from the event is enough. I think they need to look for intention. It feels like they blindly apply the rules. This does not benefit anyone. It make Konami looks bad and drive some players away from competitive plays. What advantages did he gain? As far as I know he missed 2 purely cards, which everyone and their brothers know the ratio of Purrely engine, where missing a delicious memory is a genuine mistake. True he could have look at some opponent decks in the first round, but it is not like he switch from Purrely to Rescue Ace to "counter" the later match up. Just make him lose that tournament and that already be good enough.

[@sufx0845]

The problem is that you have to establish rules and stick to them, and they've decided that dropping to re-register is classified as cheating, so from then on it is. You have to distinguish between two intentions, the malicious intention to cheat and the intention to do something contrary to the policies. What counts as cheating is the second one. If you don't do this, it means that anyone can, in any case of cheating, invoke the fact that he didn't know what he was doing was cheating, and since this can't be proven, you either refuse to believe him without proof, or you believe him when he is very possibly lying. Therefore, as soon as you act directly with the intention of not respecting the policies, it's cheating. Too bad if you didn't know, but from Konami's point of view you have to do this for your policies to make sense. The committee's leeway for adapting the sanction to the policy is therefore the banning time, and in this case they were very understanding, as they gave the shortest possible sanction.

[@cyber5787]

@@sufx0845 Yup agreed that he should be punished regardless. But the part that I did not agreed with the policy is the banning of 6 months. Is 6 months really the best we have? Does "disqualification" from the event not enough in this case? I know they implemented the least banning penalty but I think we should starts from 1 or 2 months and then bump it up depends on the severity...

[@sufx0845]

@@cyber5787 They may not take up the case and not impose a sanction, but in this case it's a proven case of cheating, so not taking up the case would have been more than questionable.

[@richie5751]

@@sufx0845 You summarized it perfectly! It is very difficult to prove intent. In this case Konami issued a fair punishment for cheating while also still being very understanding of their world champion.

[@RyanLeeW]

​@@richie5751completely agreed with this and @sufx0845. The other comments here asking for intent and even favoritism towards him cause he's a World Champ are honestly jaw droppingly idiotic.

[@shadowtyrant1272]

And presumably for the deck list swap they could see both deck lists and see that, oh yeah its literally the same with only a couple cards swapped.

[@sufx0845]

and that's precisely why he was dq for cheating

[@blackheart_1852]

Personally I think a DQ can be enough for it. If I was talking about this with my stepfather who also plays ygo. Our thought for reviewing the policies was: Add subcategories to suspension categories for a but more transparency on why someone is suspended. Change deck submission penalty to only a dq if you resubmitted if your original submission was an illegal deck (banned cards, bellow 40 main deck, etc.) If the deck submitted was legal for the tournament then it can be reviewed as cheating, just as a way to mitigate In my mind you can police this by referencing the deck lists submitted by the player. Not sure if that's something they event organizers keep a copy of since I've never played at events but I feel that wouldn't be too hard to implement if it's not already

[@wanderlustwarrior]

I may not watch HeadToHeadBattles anymore, but Susu and JenJen were always cool in my opinion, and Susu's punishment still seems messed up.

[@DirtCheapFU]

Honestly, I think Susu still being banned is because he reached out directly and got heated. This isnt 1980-90s NBA doing bumps from your socks during timeouts. You can't be drinking or smoking/vaping during these events. You also dont go directly to them and argue. I used to Hotel. Blacklisted guests will argue their case and we will just extend their blacklisting. Sometimes, not even let them know we extended their blacklisting. "We're sorry you feel that way [click] Jackass".

[@jalenbritt7356]

@@DirtCheapFUyou’re just petty

[@DinoSoGreat5000]

it seems like Remote Duel tournaments is code for "Play to get suspended long term". It's almost not even worth doing remote duels at this point because of that

[@kish45]

Konami really needs to fix some of these stupid rules such as until the day of the tournament if players need submit a edited decklist such as if they forgot to put cards on the first decklist they submitted they should be allowed to do so.

[@SelfReassuringTitle]

The world champ getting DQ’d was super stupid, but he handled it well

[@TheRetroReplay]

He shouldn't have gotten suspended, he made a mistake and submitted a nonviable deck list, he didn't even sit down to play and even informed the officials of the mistake before he even played, its not like he submitted the wrong deck list played halfway through and then realized his mistake, they should allow 1 deck list correction before the tournament starts, or if it's too late and round 1 started, they have to take that loss. But disqualification and then suspension? That feels like they want to make a example out of him with the message being "DON'T YOU EVER MAKE A MISTAKE!"

[@matthewkammerer9081]

Very good points, I feel 5 section of cheating would be more organize to determine if the punishment need to be severe.

[@incendiaryvicis]

Cap may do so great analysis on the game true. As a historian of the game prolly the absolute best doing it. But tbh my favorite aspect of Cap is calling BS out in all aspects of the game. It cap points out smoke prolly worth a look cause he’s likely found a fire. I’m genuinely glad the community has your voice we are far better for it.

[@RealGateGuardian]

Be glad you're informed and can see the banned player list. In MTG, they don't publish that information anymore.

[@discvryyu-gi-oh2196]

Has an illegal deck, Notices he has an illegal deck and doesnt want to be seen as cheating, Re-enters with the CORRECT LEGAL LIST, Banned for cheating… when he was trying to not cheat? Game loss sure Ban stupid.

[@7DeadlyJinxs]

Disqualifying the champion because he submitted a decklist twice, and not only that, banning him for 6 months and tarnishing his reputation? Really Konami? How utterly despicable these Japanese companies are at conducting themselves. And for what? Just because they can't handle the extra administrative work provided by an invalid decklist? Pathetic.

[@ImAMenace]

lets be honest too, they would not have cared as much if it was a japanese player, and well, the reason is kinda obvious

[@DioStandProud]

They're sick of the foreign fans. With valid reason lol. And anyways it's fine, dude is a POS irl anyways.

[@bigman94755]

I think it's just a "we have a rule and you didn't follow it regardless of context" situation. I disagree with it but I can see how they follow that line of thinking.

[@RyanLeeW]

You're entitled to your opinion but your comment is sounding pretty racist. Plenty of American companies do way worse and more "despicable" conduct.

[@mee7er]

This was an event in NA. What do Japanese Konami employees have anything to do with this?

[@h3llg3ar]

That's sad--the champ wanted to correct his decklist and got branded as a cheater... I guess it's okay to play with illegal decks in sanctioned play instead of that madness.

[@rampagephoenix1735]

Can anybody look up who Konami's major shareholder is?? I've got a pretty good idea whats been going on here.

[@thewolfgaming4874]

@@rampagephoenix1735 whats the shareholders got to do with anything

[@rampagephoenix1735]

@thewolfgaming4874 Think about it, you really expect me to believe that Konami's behavior would be considered an ethical business model? Having a long history of outright banning certain players under highly dubious reasons, along with their nonsensical and unreasonable product pushing (with yugioh as of late), and simply doing away with their other properties (like Metal Gear Solid and Castlevania) to boot......this kind of history strongly suggests that this isnt a management problem, it's likely intentional under the direction of some influential people in higher positions of authority: The shareholders.

[@thewolfgaming4874]

@@rampagephoenix1735 whatever you say there bud

[@rampagephoenix1735]

@thewolfgaming4874 You sound like you work for Konami.....Lemme guess, you doing some damage control on behalf of your employers?

[@kag2576]

But if the original decklist was invalid would he not be banned/disqualified anyway. Like he made the effort to correct his mistake, was willing to take a penalty and they just drop the ban hammer on him. If you can't acknowledge situations of nuance what's the point. Plus if that's the case just remove him from this one tournament, why give him a 6 month ban. Seriously this whole situation is so scummy.

[@demonic_myst4503]

The stevie guy was banned for putting a video about how to spot a cheater using a click bait tittle 9f how to cheat got ten years ban kanami didnt bother eqtch the video so its not like kanami give two shits about who they ban and what damage they do theyre lazy

[@nyra007]

It'd probably take a class action defamation lawsuit to get them to change the cheating tag.

[@CanadianLannister]

That would be such a classic Yugioh community move. Suing Konami for wrongfully accusing people of not knowing the rules.

[@DioStandProud]

And he would go from ridiculed, to broke dunce.

[@DirtCheapFU]

You don't want to waste money on a defamation lawsuit. You risk yourself at pulling details that the better legal team will use against you. Then pay your own fees and defendants legal fee.

[@stephenyates4271]

Defamation? He broke the rules. In their interpretation, it can be seen as cheating. Congratulations!!! If anyone actually listened to you, they would be thousands of dollars in debt, AND still be a cheater 😂😂

[@hallyuniverse]

​@@stephenyates4271 The legal definition of cheating at play is to deliberately act dishonestly or to engage in fraud with the aim to gain an unfair advantage. By the legal definition he wasn't cheating, so Konami is being defamatory. "Breaking the rules" isn't cheating unless it's intentional and to gain advantage. Even Konami agrees with that definition, exampled by how they rule an accepted gamestate when minor mistakes are made that aren't within the rules of the game. They are the ones that made the mistake by approving a decklist that wasn't legal and not informing the player it needed to be adjusted, he went out of his way to make sure his decklist was valid. Not saying a lawsuit is a good idea, but a lot of the things Konami does when it bans players are in fact illegal in a lot of places, either because they're defamatory or because they're discriminatory.

[@jamespolk6146]

I felt like World Champions in Yu-Gi-Oh! no matter which region you are in can't catch a break to be quite honest.

[@Rabbitlord108]

You know. I joked about Konami abusing KZbin's copyright system to Thanos snap the channels of folks like Cimo in the past. But this is ridiculous.

[@bryanmerel]

At the very least, we are not Pokemon TCG level of Petty, where a a nervous kid got disqualified for accidentally using the wrong pronoun. 😒

[@srn347]

The kid didn't even use the wrong pronoun, the judge who disqualified him did.

[@bryanmerel]

@srn347 i'm using what the official reason they used to disqualified him, but yes. Not only is the reason for disqualification stupid, it's not even the kid who did it. The small of a cromagnon Alphabet judge just decided to go powertrip on a kid. Makes things worst, i heard no intervention nor actions from the pokemon company or the event organizers were done about the issue, or about the Judge's misconduct.

[@tsvetomirsheev3882]

​​@@bryanmerelwow Pokémon went woke. I bet the dude who did this to the kid was a 200-pound princess with 10 different hair colors 😂 This world is fcked

[@Swanjeff12]

Pronouns is just a made up term for an excuse for being an attention seeker

[@HarukoJisan]

You're telling me Konami will ban me from playing in official events if while playing in one of their over the internet tournaments I have a beverage that I'm legally allowed to drink? I can understand at an IRL event, but for Remote Dueling events, who are they to tell me what I can and cannot drink in the confort of my own home and acting with respect towards other players. Seems silly to me

[@tonybj7785]

It's more of a drinking in front of minors thing. Even if they're not directly in front of you. Remember alcoholic beverages and cigarettes cause TV shows and games a higher rating and is also not allowed on streaming like twitch and KZbin. It's probably part of discord's rules too that is actually what's being followed

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

Mtg literally did pub crawl tournaments 5 rounds minimum 2 drinks per round

[@sinfinite7516]

I didn't even realize Konami treated their Yugitubers and Champions like this, some have to wonder if they even care about promoting their game...

[@johnbarrientes4807]

When preregistration. Are the deck list made public? So that someone could use this to create a slightly higher chance winning deck?

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Paulie feels like a slap on the wrist compared to Susu. Don't get me wrong, I feel Konami cheated both of them and isn't really representing. their ' fair policies' here! I'm hoping both of these cases get re-reviewd....but we'll see...

[@haogwasakura]

I've read about a player being punished for having a token of an archetype that wasn't in his deck, he was supposedly "manipulating game state", but damn, it is dumb as fuck, konami keeps fucking up.

[@HaruKodama]

He wasn't punished for doing it, he was punished for admitting on video that he did it with the intention of misleading his opponent. If he never said that, he would have been fine

[@DirtCheapFU]

He legitimately went for cheating route with the intent to cheat the system. lol Then short lived discussion of his history of intimidating. Which is super interesting read. Man, when was that... 2021? Time flies.

[@acertainhentai1378]

Should have been 3 months at MOST! at most 3 MONTHS, YGO KONAMI are getting better with the community over the years, but there player sanctions are antiquated, they should have gave him a warning ban, 6 months is crazy, the game changes a lot in that period of time, half a year is insane for such a competitive player as he is.

[@Mr.Bearns]

And it's not a dumb reason. It's literally in the hand book of the children's card game.

[@howarddd1705]

what did distantcoder get banned for?

[@MegaCapitalG]

Some Yugitubing drama, making a video criticizing another Yugituber I think

[@Ragnarok540]

​@@MegaCapitalGthe other player was pretty much advocating for cheating, distant coder made a video telling people: don't do this, BUT the thumbnail and the title made it sound like he was accusing the other player of cheating. And that's enough for a 1 year suspension.

[@silentarc777]

They shouldn’t if you break a rule you actually had no idea existed than a fair punishment would be game losses

[@mattyorshin]

And this is why I don't go to tourneys often. Also this is supposed to be a kids game. Komoney takes things too seriously

[@eclipsesoluna3453]

I don't think it should be classified as a children's card game anymore I hear the rules have become very confusing for a lot of people, let alone children, which is most likely the reason the more kid-friendly Rush Duels were created

[@michaelkask5674]

Damn distant coder just got unlimited

[@rubixium]

Now I think all those MTG players who said konami wouldve banned the token trick for cheating are right, because apparently konami will ban you for cheating for no reason.

[@SargeWolf010]

1:00 all I hear is dont go to official tournaments host your own at home 😅

[@owenkiff8902]

Like having a thunder clap sky wolf in a earth deck if you can't sp sommon it from your gy at all And about if you have that xcy monster but why can't they ban the xcy monster who needs to be on the field

[@darklordkuro7953]

I think you should be able to edit your decklist but only to remove card, no addition allowed. That would permit player who accidently forgot a newly banned card to ajust it according to banlist without allowing them to gain any kind of adventage against anybody else

[@imjustwolf]

Stuff like this is why I have never gone to a sanctioned event outside my OTS. The rules Konami wants us to follow feel way too strict to me and I am scared to plan for travel and save the money for an event just to have some small infraction I made on accident ruin my entire reason to make the trip in the first place.

[@cameraman1234567890]

I dont consider his reputation being hurt honestly, props to him for winning worlds fair and square and especially one for the US. This is one of those it’s konami policy kind of things. Its not a case where he tried to cheat throughout a tournament just to see if he would get caught, or rigging his topdeck or anything. This is probably the lowest offense to get banned by and I honestly wont hold it to him. The man is skilled at the game.

[@DirtCheapFU]

This isn't the dumbest ban ever. The guy is full of shit. He knew what he was doing. That's why he's playing it off as a joke. And we all know, Konami is not speak on the subject or the player. So, it's a big Trust Me Bro moment. If your views on Rules and Regulations of why Konami does certain confuse your sense of logic. Go host a point battle game. Exercise how you want to regulate it and see where that takes you perspective. It sounds abit absurd to recommend that. As an Army veteran, I had to follow UCMJ and the Federal Law. Things get stupid, because they arent that transparent. But when I became an NCO and had to supervise and lead. Things made more sense. If someone knows they register, and drop, re-register. They can also gain knowledge of the event and the competition. Most players at events are not there; alone. Usually winners to these events, are members of teams. When someone tells your their side of story. Always look for what they are leaving out.

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

Who?

[@CharismaticEnigma121]

Konami is just on a power trip and is the small pee pee kid

[@sufx0845]

What shocks me is the number of people who want him to be treated differently because he was world champion. On the contrary, I think that everyone should be treated in the same way, and that anyone who did the same thing as him would get the same punishment. It's debatable whether dropping to change your decklist should be banned, but for the moment it's expressly forbidden by the policies, which say that doing so is cheating. And banning cheaters seems to me to be the least we can do. What's more, the committee decided to impose the shortest penalty they could, 6 months, and I think they did so precisely because there was no malicious intent behind it.

[@cyber5787]

I agree that everyone with the same mistake should be punished the same. No bias. But the implementation of a ban after disqualifying him does not make sense at all. If there are rules written regarding this, they should consider revise the rules now. Either have several banning period, not just start for 6 months (e.g. 1 month, 2 months 6 months etc.). IMHO for someone with no prior mistakes and the current mistake seems to be genuine, they should starts from a warning. Taking 6 months away from a genuine mistakes really hurt someone who genuinely likes the game, especially a world champion. Imagine any other kind of hobby you love. One day you did one oopsie where it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme, and the officials say you cannot do this hobby of yours for half a year.

[@sufx0845]

@@cyber5787 that's how it works, the Head Judge discalifies for the current event, several reports are sent to konami (the HJ's point of view, the point of view of the Floor Judge who took the appeal, the point of view of the "cheater"), and an independent committee studies the case and pronounces a ban if it deems it necessary. You can't leave the right to ban to the HJ, it would give them so much power already. The committee can also choose not to impose a penalty, but in this case, even if there's no malicious intent, there's clearly cheating in the sense that he voluntarily did something that was expressly forbidden for policies. 6 months for that isn't much.

[@tha1stalchemist]

*Vader breathez heavy* if ah winner iz ah winner... ah cheater iz ah cheater... *Vader breathez heavy*

[@NickBradford-ck7ry]

Why did an adult drinking get multiple years but cheating gets 6months?

[@DirtCheapFU]

Susu probably contacted them directly lol

[@deuntemarshall8077]

still BS

[@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968]

Damn, yeah, once a person is in these official leagues they’re basically contracted to be advertisement for the company, so they gotta watch even their social media post; HOWEVER, it’s still messed up the degree of the penalty. Like really? Wow….

[@whateverdot]

If only every yugioh players name was Billy Brake😢

[@dragonlofdeath]

i view it more of correcting a mistake but it seemed like he was gonna get punished either way. had he not corrected it he may have gotten a round loss or DQ'd at worse. it seem like he's in a damned if you do and damned if you don't type situation.

[@demonthekid718]

8:00 I objected!! Rules meant to be broken. So let's break the hammer... In other words, Even though it's Konami's decision doesn't mean no one can argue with back to Konami about this trivial issue of what is cheating.

[@jeansoto4633]

The suspension is valid, cuz if not, people may attempt to submit ilegal decklist, then scout decks and then submit a new legal decklist, so yeah, it's valid, it's a way to prevent a pandora box opening from this situation

[@arglebargle5531]

Well no, you could just do a dq or game loss for a rule infraction, not a nonsensical suspension for cheating.

[@TheItalianoAssassino]

You get punished for drinking alcohol? That's stupid 😂

[@AdamSelvig]

I couldn’t afford championships too expensive

[@theflyingdropbear2009]

So Paulie gets suspended for making an honest mistake, which he tried to rectify, just lowers the bar of what is and what isn't cheating

[@DirtCheapFU]

Wasn't an honest mistake. He is a competitive player representing a competitive team. He knows the rules better than the judges. That's why he is a winner.

[@mattcurnell2545]

everyone makes honest mistakes regardless of skill level@@DirtCheapFU

[@shadowmarez7457]

They need to have a legitimate reason, They can't ban people and not have a reason. Unacceptable from a company that literally takes your money.

[@reservationatdorsias3215]

Everytime i see news about a Yugioh player getting banned, theres a chance they played Air Neos on feature match. One day…

[@Thousandeyes85]

Konami was much too leanient with Paulie. I would have double his sentence for not only entering with an illegal list, but doing it twice in the same event.

[@jonathangaona1740]

Konami is just being run by a bunch of annoying simps that was passed down from daddy. 🤷‍♂️

[@Wortigon2000]

And you'd assumethat when you submit your decklist for a tournament, it'd check if that decklist is valid... Especially for online comppetitions... And warn you that it isn't, when you try to actually submit it, so you can change it into one that IS valid, in case it wasn't.

[@Sternreign]

Glad I left yugioh years ago for Digimon. Much cheaper and more fun and doesnt take a law degree to understand... yet.

[@ToxicSentinelTTV]

That's crazy

[@sh1nypantsgaming661]

Banning for social media is dumbest shit ever.

[@DROPBEAR9]

Konami hates d link that much they banned the pilot

[@patrickcampbell-pelletier8678]

Konami is just overall a trash company and has not a care in the world about it's player base

[@tsvetomirsheev3882]

Banning the current World champ for 6 months over such a dumb thing is an outstanding Komoney move. Not a good look for the game but it is ran by a bunch of clowns

[@theblite32]

When you say that Paulie entered with an illegal deck,,,technically it was a legal list he submitted, it was just a suboptimal list because he forgot Key cards for the archetype. It can happen to the best of us.

[@MegaCapitalG]

Or he could’ve entered with a old format deck. I still my Pasadena Spright deck on file and it has Elf in it (not legal)

[@sufx0845]

@@MegaCapitalG if you enter an illegal decklist you can tell that to the staff prior to the tournament, and you will get a DE-minor (Warning). "If an error that would result in an illegal Deck or Deck List is caught prior to the start of the first round, it is acceptable (at the Head Judge’s discretion) to correct the Duelist’s Deck List without applying a penalty. "

[@TehFoamy]

The more I see these videos, the more thankful I am that I don't play competitive yugioh lmao Konami's made it clear that when it comes to players doing things that they don't like, they're only interested in administering punishment, rather than weighing important factors like intent. If a player is being vitriolic, that's one thing. But if a player gets banned for, say, voicing valid criticisms about judges, I wouldn't want to go to sanctioned events for that game at all, because it would be apparent to me that the people running that game have no interest in listening to feedback and learning from shortcomings in order to improve. Would I want to go to tournaments for a game where my opponents can sneak a peek at the cards in my deck box to gain an advantage, but I can't put swordsoul tokens in my deck box to offset that ill-gained information and reset the game to a state of uncertainty? Definitely not. Konami needs to use these experiences to identify and correct the stupid or arbitrary policies that they follow and enforce. As an example, there was a Magic the Gathering Pro Tour way back in 1997 where one of the finalists was disqualified AS HE WAS PLAYING THE CARD THAT WOULD WIN HIM THE TOURNAMENT because he paid the cost to play the card AFTER announcing that he was playing it, instead of BEFORE. There was no advantage to be gained from doing these two steps out of order; it was just A Rule™ that you had to pay the cost first. But the judges decided that he should be DQed without prize, and he was kicked from the tournament with $16,000 withheld because of an arbitrary rule that had no business existing in the first place. The other eliminated players were so outraged by the DQ that they rushed the stage and damn near started a literal RIOT, and eventually the TOs were persuaded to let the DQed player keep his prize money. But the important lesson from this? The folks who made MTG quickly changed the rule to allow people to pay the costs for their cards before or after announcing their intent to play them, and the game is much better for it. I would love to see Konami learning from their mistakes too.

[@AndrozYGO]

In my opinion the not deceiving your opponent rules are so stupid. It shouldn't be on my opponent if I assume they're playing a deck right off the bat because of some tokens. Even if deception is their reasoning that's on me not my opponent if I just assume they're playing Swordsoul. It's like getting banned for using a Hero mat field center and sleeves but I'm actually playing Dragon Link. And people wonder why I don't play in tournaments anymore and just play old and custom formats with friends... And while this isn't a one to one comparison, in Beyblade you can change your launcher position at the last second and catch your opponent off guard with a different launch style. Imagine if that wasn't allowed it would be insane.

[@SuperNickid]

@MegaCapitalG: For the one that got banned for drinking alchool in a remote duel. Was because when you go in the event building your not allowed to bring alchool drink so the same rules applie for remote duel even if you stay home you must not drink alchool for any reason why participating in the event because they will treated as your physicly in the event even if your not. Since he joke about being drunk, that count as sever trolling. Some people have the condition sensery mix, while they see someone drink alchool, or joke about drinking alchool but they don't tell it is a joke, the person that see it can smell the alchool with is eye from the remote duel and highly destract him from playing yugioh does giving an unfair adventage to the one drinking alchool. And even if that person did not have the condition sensory mix, just seeing someone allowed to break the rules just because the event as been move to a remote duel, it can make them very uncomfortable giving an unfair advantage to the one drinking alchool. The reason why his banned got extended by 1.5 year, it was because he complain to konami that it was not a legit banned, but konnami confirmed that it was a legit banned and the penality for complaining that a legit banneed is not legit. Is a 1.5 year extended banned from the banned removal date, since he never complain again that is why he can play in the even this May. Keep in mind I never participate in any event so I cannot be sure about what I'm saying. It is just it could be does reason and that could be why they never told the reason.

[@jooelewis]

Turns out if you violate a policy, you get suspended. As one of the top players in the world, this is something you should know *and/or* if not sure, look it up.

[@spicymemes7458]

Why anyone would want to play competitve yugioh when Konami is in charge is beyond me.

[@MrVictor021]

Yup! Konami is officially killing the game 😂

[@thewolfgaming4874]

in ref to the ss tokens yes any token can be used but there is no need to have them face up in view when not in use so in putting them face up like that is miss leading the opp into thinking you are on a ss deck of some kind so which would be cheating

[@xMorningstarx]

Someone should find out who in konami makes these decisions.

[@LemonCookies]

My question is. If he was running a 40 card deck. Missing 6 cards. How did the system accept his first decklist. At this point is it not the systems fault?

[@NJR0091]

I think this guy shouldn't be exempted from the rules just because he's world champion, but six months suspension is way too harsh for what seems to be an honest mistake and a reasonable assumption that he could correct it like he did - unlike the second guy you showed, who intentionally misled his opponents by representing a deck he wasn't playing at all (that is far closer to cheating than what the first guy did). Intent should determine what kind of punishment one receives and how long someone should be punished for.

[@lifequality]

People, WAKE UP!! God damn it. Konami is a profit-driven only company with nothing to care for on the customer’s level (unless its about your money). By playing along with all of this and sucking it up, playing yugioh in official events, you just further support a company that has gotten out of hand. As a psychologist in a pedagogical field, i find this behavior of Konami very abusive towards customers and we all shouldn’t tolerate this no further. Over the last days i have seen yugitubers react to MTG or Pokemon things. I encourage people to try out other card games. Yugioh is a great game run by a very bad company. And there are better alternatives out there where you won’t feel so held down when endulging into the hobby and the community.

[@Thousandeyes85]

Yeah but that upcoming core set looks nice

[@XenoxGOWGODOFWINTER]

We need Rules that are finalized.. I ran better tournaments back in the 2000s.

[@MistSoldier]

This is why I stop buying the cards and started playing online. (Not Master Duel)

[@peekay120]

Regarding the guy who got banned for consuming alchohol at a remote duel event. WOuldnt that mean he was playing at home at the time? I totally understand Konami slamming down the ban hammer on someone bringing a 6 six pack of beers into a ycs, thats unacceptable, but enjoying a beer in the comfort of your own home while playing remotely should not be bannable, unless you are blackout drunk or something, but from everything i have heard, that wasnt the case

[@TheOfficialRandomGuy]

I won’t name the location, but our locals allows us to drink alcohol during tournaments as long as it’s in a different container. Suck it Konami!

[@DebeliYuGiOh]

Why was Lofton banned?

[@MegaCapitalG]

Something about publicly blaming a judge about a ruling given out at an event

[@mysticlooter8418]

Frankly as a judge myself of a person put swordsoul tokens with thier stuff but never represented the deck as swordsoul, how is that any different from me having madoclhe playmat and sleeves but playing kastira.

[@kiranearitachi]

I think the problem wasn't that he did it it's that he said he did it to be malicious

[@mysticlooter8418]

@@kiranearitachi tbh imo it shouldn't matter unless he specifically told his opponents that he was playing swordsoul

[@owenkiff8902]

And hope we get the earth retrain And it not the big core

[@RobRuckus65]

The way konami handles player bans is a joke. Banning people with no warning from playing in tournaments for things not even related to actually playing in a tournament is simply ridiculous.

[@Yugiohdeckmaster41]

i dont agree with any of what komani did here personally, also correct me if i am wrong, but if you submit a deck list and a ban list comes out that directly effect that current list before the event, i do believe that the only exception on changing your deck list around, or did i dream this up some where ?

[@DirtCheapFU]

This didnt have anything to do with new banlist cards. The lack of information and people putting together/processing the story on their own is making this whole thing confusing.

[@starforce6751]

Konami is a mafia A way I will solve this is with a Strike system For a example Paulie situation will get him a strike but not a suspension Andres Torres ban was stupid

[@Zer0_._]

So, if i get accepted with a blasting the ruins deck, or with 3 pot of greed and 3 graceful charity, then i should just play with the unfair cards? Hey guys, i think i just found out how to become champion REALLY easily.

[@rampagephoenix1735]

Konami sure has a history of screwing up due to mysterious circumstances, and its always their consumers that end up paying the price; This ALWAYS feels intentional. If you ask me, id say that this toxic attitude coming from Konami isnt from the corporate staff, but from their shareholders. Whoever OWNS the most of the company stocks is the likely culprit, and i think ive got a pretty good guess as to who that is and whats actually going on here. For now, ive got more than half a mind to boycott this company, everything from its products to its events, i will not be spending a single dime on them.

[@Ratchetfan321]

Knoami doesnt know how to run a card game. Who couldve guessed.

[@Jianichie]

I think this is a bit much. Their game their rules -- fine. Disqualify him for breaking the rules. Banning him with a cheater label though? C'mon.

[@ralphremo1862]

Oh sure a bunch of guys in robes can steal people's cards (and souls) no ban but a guy sipping booze BAN! (this is a joke please don't ban me)

[@ilgattoyuumi]

The funniest thing is that some player that really needs to be on that list aren't even watched or under some kind of control, like an italian famous content creator that, like a fucking clown, during italian nationals this year set a kaiju in the s/t zones at round like 7/8, and, in fear that he would get caught, has the balls to say, at the end of the game "look i cheated, i setted a kaiju in the s/t", and finally, when judges arrived, he even said "oh well i was just trolling, it was a Coaching session" But hey, i haven't saw his name on his list and i fucking hate that almost nobody is talking about this, since being a youtuber in Italy covers you from the majority of problems

[@matthewdodd1262]

He should be treated differently. Because the way Konami handled it is stupid. Yes, he broke 2 rules by submitting an illegal deck list, then tried to re-register with an updated deck list. But does that really deem him worthy of a 6 month ban, especially when he was open and honest that it happened and tried to fix it? World champ or not, the DQ was good, but the ban is way to far

[@sufx0845]

the decklist was not illegal, he had forgotten to include cards useful for his strategy.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

I think the ban would only be justified if he actually waited until he got caught. Self reporting for accidentally submitting a wrong deck list should be a disqualification. At worst a disqualification + warning.

[@adambraun1990]

His is situation is dumb. Sure DQ him from that event, but suspending him for 6 months AND labeling him as a “cheater”? That’s overkill. Especially at a time when Konami is struggling to retain new players, pulling stuff like that is not the way to go about it. I can see this actually turning people off of competitive play (finding out what actually happened).

[@olyviermonteau4300]

should get international law involved

[@ryful]

thats bs what they did to paul