Konami's System 573 - Everything you wanted to know about it!

Konami has some of the most well known games in the gaming industry, from Metal Gear Solid for consoles and DanceDanceRevolution for arcades... But what hardware actually ran the latter? Is it complex electronic voodoo or something far more familiar to us all? And what is with the 573 number being everywhere?!
UPDATE: Turns out that the digital board RCA plugs are self-terminating ARCnet ports! For those unaware (including myself), ARCnet was a rival format to the likes of Ethernet and Token Ring networks during the early days of desktop computer networking. You might have gathered it did not do super well, but it turns out that ARCnet found it's niche in industrial automation as it was very reliable and predictable. Now, I can't yet say the actual protocol is ARCnet, just that the physical layer of the OSI model is, but it's entirely possible the FPGA on the digital board has an ARCnet controller built into the bitstream that is uploaded at boot!
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● Chapters:
00:00-00:18 Intro Skit
00:18-1:42 System 573 Introduction
1:42-4:17 Ports 'N Plugs
4:17-5:06 Distributors and Piracy
5:06-7:17 IO expansions and IO Boards
7:17-8:01 I now pronounce you Motherboard and Cart.
8:01-10:03 "What is my role in life?" "You play DDR." "Oh. My god."
10:03-14:07 "Can I play Beatmania IIDX?" "NO."
14:07-14:40 573's Fate and sucessors
14:40-16:06 Nice Butt.... day.
16:06-18:47 "Did you just assume I'm PS1?"
18:47-19:53 "WipeOut *guitar riff*"
19:53-22:01 ATAPI ain't happi.
22:01-23:34 CompactFlash? Forgotten and in the past.
23:34-23:47 Gameplay
23:47-24:16 Shameless plug.
24:16-24:34 Credits
● Music in order of Appearance:
Whermut - Godmode
Noir Et Blanc - RhythmOrganyzer (At this point it's required).
Bad Snacks - In The Atmosphere
RAGE - Serotonin from the Sun
Emmit Fenn - Alone
Audionautix - The Voyage
Diamond Ortiz - Ubiquitous
Joey Pecoraro - Write You
Spence - Retrograde
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[@robbyrobot3303]

There is so much content to be made on arcade hardware that hasn't been touched on KZbin! This is exactly the content I've been looking for.

[@SPVLaboratories]

this is INCREDIBLE content! I just got access to an extreme cab for the first time and this is mostly all new information to me, great stuff!

[@Pretendo27]

I need more Konami / bemani arcade KZbin content injected into my veins. I love bemani so much I paid $500 for a “if you were here with me” dancemaia vinyl 😂🥴 Love your videos, keep up the amazing work homie

[@NaokisRC]

Addendum: Firstly a thanks to Tweak who supplied images of their IIDX 8th style cabinet! And so sorry I missed you out on the credits screen 🤦‍♂ Secondly, I made a mistake with DDR Solo's networking. I said it uses a ring topology like you'd get in a token ring network (similar to what Sega used for the model series and the Naomi) - This isn't correct, it's actually a multidrop bus more like how the JVS port works with RS485. (Thanks to Hydreigon for pointing this out).

[@LaHordaBarArcade-fb9pq]

What an incredible journey and amazing video. Been working with 573 for some time now for our barcade, and this truly opens up my knowledge to maybe try to fix some broken systems I have laying around. Great to know all in all.

[@ctrlaltrees]

Bloody good video this! I had no idea this system even existed, amazing to see how many different games were powered by it. 👍

[@NaokisRC]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@faceheadman]

always love hearing the nitty grity details of arcade hardware from this era, excellent work. also nice chapter titles lmao

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you!

[@sukairasan]

I have been working on 573’s for a very long time. I recently got one for my red japanese DDR cabinet. And i owned a ddr cabinet about a decade ago. This is incredibly well done and incredibly thorough. Well done.

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you so much!

[@sukairasan]

Also as an aside - Tweak sold me my current 573.

[@AstralPhnx]

Absolutely wonderful video! Love Bemani and this is an outstanding video on the 573

[@TheBasementChannel]

Really comprehensive rundown!

[@Zapdatt]

Damn this video is good! It really blew my expectations out of the water. Great stuff, keep it up!

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you so much!

[@tenavojkovic2245]

You and I both know that I don't know anything about the subject of the video, so to please the alghorithm gods I just wanna say I think you are doing the lord's work by including full lists of timestamps and music in the description. Although butt day was a fun bit of trivia. :) Edit: I have just reached the end of the video and I am appalled by the fact that you did not credit me for letting you borrow my car to get your arcade cab footage.

[@theubusu]

Wonderful video, you're so underrated!

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you so much!

[@CH32mix]

Amazing info and video

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you and Im very glad you enjoyed it 😃

[@-Poka-]

Somehow arcade systems based on PlayStation felt like the best for me. You can see IIDX, DDR in it's past using it, and the PS2 to PS3 era with Tekken 4(if Im correct?) to its T6 days Just shows how really impressive the PS was.

[@NaokisRC]

Or rather, how cheap and easy it was to use. And DDR super nova is based on a literal ps2

[@hollybrereton3140]

Wow that was amazing so much I didn't know, so well put together , so intriguing and then you went and unlocked some deep suppressed nightmares 'getting ATAPI Drivers working under HP/UX and True64' ughh shudder

[@NaokisRC]

The problem is I have three of the damn things now. Research aint cheap

[@DbugII]

The idea of making an arcade cabinet based on the first PlayStation is intriguing, did not know that. But yeah, not surprising that it was not used much, since the PSX graphics looked dated quite soon after it was released.

[@NaokisRC]

The PSX was used in a load of games however. Tekken and Soul Caliber come to mind

[@DbugII]

@@NaokisRC I remember that Soul Blade / Soul Edge was on PSX, but from what I remember Soul Calibur was released on Naomi / Dreamcast only (and then more modern machines after that)

[@NaokisRC]

Soul Caliber ran on System 11 if I'm not mistaken, so it would have been ported from PSX hardware.

[@Linkzeee]

What cd Roms are compatible with system 573 fisherman’s bait 2? The one in it is CHM-56 S. I can find one that is CHM-56. No S what does the S stand for?

[@NaokisRC]

I dont know about that drive, but an up to date is available on my GitHub page: github.com/NaokiS28/KSystem-573/blob/main/Working%20Drive%20List.md

[@spoutnickteam]

This is an incredible video ! Are there any games/bios patched for sata/compaq flash loading available ?

[@NaokisRC]

Not as of yet. It would require making per game patches aswell.

[@GUCFan]

I had to come back to this video to say this. Somehow we're all sorta wrong about those arcade games not being able to run on a real PS1 or rather PS1 emulator. I was messing around with the app that runs Simpsons Bowling on the Simpsons Arcade1up cabinet and its running a Baby Phoenix game with Duckstation. A Konami game made for their arcade hardware running on what is seemingly a simple PS1 emulator, something that should be completely impossible in the first place just like the Wipeout port to the 573 you showcased.

[@NaokisRC]

The thing is, most of the retail based PSX arcade systems such as the 573, Phoenix run games and the games and even the “BIOS” as PSX apps, Im actually trying to make a retail PSX run 573 stuff since it is theoretically possible, provided they dont need IO like the digital IO

[@GUCFan]

@@NaokisRC Ooh looking forward to seeing the early analog Bemani titles running on a regular retail PS1 since those don't need the digital board

[@crimson-foxtwitch2581]

there is a port of Tetris The Grand Master from its arcade board to a PSX ROM…

[@GUCFan]

@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 Oh yeah i've seen that one, still an impressive port!

[@crimson-foxtwitch2581]

@@GUCFan i think retooling an emulator like DuckStation to run PSX-based arcade board games would absolutely be possible, especially since modified versions of RPCS3 already support Namco’s PS3-based arcade board games

[@wilsonheanucrosvilla7456]

Hola espero que puedas traducir esto lo que voy a escribir, lo que pasa es que tengo una konami syste 573 y realicé la instalación del socket para el cambio de la memoria RTC RAM ya que había muerto, empezó a funcionar bien, pero de un tiempo para acá empezó a reiniciarse solo e indica que hay errores de RTC RAM y me reinicia nuevamente, inclusive al cargar juego desde el CD, se reinicia constantemente, voy a realizar nuevamente el cambio de socket y verificar continuidad si ha quedado bien instalado y realizar nuevamente pruebas, o ¿qué otro problema puede ser? necesito ayuda, espero que me responda, muchas gracias y excelente video.

[@NaokisRC]

Hola. Sin saber cómo se ve la reparación o poder diagnosticar otras partes de la placa, es muy difícil saber dónde buscar. El BIOS no comprueba la RAM de RTC, por lo que si está recibiendo "Ree restablecimiento de hardware" en la pantalla, podría ser otra cosa. Necesitaría ver qué chip tiene el error, por ejemplo, "18E BAD". Si es el juego que dice que el RTC es malo, entonces es posible que deba probar el RTC, ya que podría haber fallado de nuevo. También perdona esta traducción si se lee mal, ¡dessafortunadamente no hablo español!

[@wilsonheanucrosvilla7456]

@@NaokisRC está muy bien traducido, lo curioso es que carga muy bien la BIOS y no tiene problemas o algún código que muestre que es lo que está fallando, pero al tratar de iniciar el juego se reinicia, he probado muchas cosas, a veces limpio la BIOS y funciona un tiempo, luego pasa que se reinicia de un momento a otro, y se genera un bucle constante. 😓

[@NaokisRC]

Si el BIOS muestra "READ PROGRAM...", entonces el BIOS está cargando el juego desde la unidad de CD y es probable que la unidad no esté leyendo correctamente. Tal vez su unidad de CD esté fallando y necesite ser reemplazada en tal caso. Tengo una lista de unidades de trabajo conocidas, aunque posiblemente también haya más: github.com/NaokiS28/KSystem-573/blob/main/Working%20Drive%20List.md

[@wilsonheanucrosvilla7456]

@@NaokisRC ya le encontré la solución, por si alguno le pasa lo que me pasó a mi, el problema radicaba en la fuente de poder, yo había instalado la fuente de un PC, pero al tiempo salió defectuosa, se realizó reemplazo de la fuente de energía, se realizaron las pruebas todo quedó funcionando sin inconvenientes, lo peor de todo es que nunca sospeché de ella, pero al cambiar los chips rtc ram y la Eeprom la única que me faltó descartar es la fuente de energía, muchas gracias por contestar y darme una orientación en esta hermosa y reliquia konami system. 😃😁🤙

[@XxJohnXxxx]

You are amazing ! Would it be possible to hire you for a mission ? I own a Punch mania cab and I'd like to run the second version of the game, I would need someone like you to do it. If you feel able to do it, I would pay of course ✍️💎

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you! For your cab you would need to use either a rom burner to write the image to the flash, RTC and linear PCMCIA card, or use a program that did that. Theres also the security cart but Im not sure if that requires rewriting. However I am unable to do any of this properly as I lack correct equipment to do it for a service. However if a tool does get released I will make sure to cover it!

[@yeninja]

Why am I somehow not surprised Konami used a slightly upgraded psx?

[@NaokisRC]

They loved the PSX hardware, even IIDX got its start with it.

[@PMitchell1011Real]

iidx mentioned

[@Garoninja]

So when are you going to get it running Playstation games then? What I'm hearing is that it is possible.

[@NaokisRC]

SpicyJPEG has WipeOut running on a DDR cab, is that not enough? But in seriousness, it depends per game. It's possible but not a trivial task, wipeout was chosen because sourcecode is available for it.

[@Garoninja]

@@NaokisRC No. It must run Final Fantasy 7

[@jozefbania]

YA - KU - ZA guess the number