Konnan on: will Tony Khan regret siding with The Elite instead of CM Punk?

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@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL 10 ай бұрын
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@PirateJohnson
@PirateJohnson 10 ай бұрын
Konan needs to grind his weed a little further from his mic.
@loooooooongstanding2141
@loooooooongstanding2141 10 ай бұрын
if Tony Khan really thinks that The Bucks turning heel and forming yet another faction is the answer to his problems, then I really don't predict AEW being around by 2025.
@Melo_Soul
@Melo_Soul 10 ай бұрын
They will still be around because Tony's wallet is loaded so until that changes they will be around. Wonder how long it will take for him to get rid of all the overpaid dead weight in the company or his dad to step in and say enough.
@marlock6573
@marlock6573 10 ай бұрын
They'll be around, but they probably won't have a decent TV deal like they do now.
@carloscjr23
@carloscjr23 10 ай бұрын
If tonys daddy still has a thight wallet he will be waisting millions for his mark son until 2030 I guarantee If Khan sr. Passes aways its probably the only way i see stopping the flow of money
@christophmatthews4313
@christophmatthews4313 10 ай бұрын
AEW will always be around as long as dad foots the bill. However, they won’t be relevant, even less so than now.
@kyle87436
@kyle87436 10 ай бұрын
When Shad dies, Tony is selling Jaguars and Fulham and putting those billions towards AEW. AEW will outlive you, obese mark.
@notgonnapay
@notgonnapay 10 ай бұрын
I love how the news of Danielson heading up AEW’s ‘disciplinary committee’ just happened to break a few days after Punk’s return to WWE. It’s as if Tony’s saying, “if you have something to say about the firing of Punk, take it up with Danielson.”
@michaeltrano6617
@michaeltrano6617 10 ай бұрын
The very definition of throwing someone under the bus…
@hectic105
@hectic105 10 ай бұрын
Yah, it reminds me of that super awkward clip when he first told the Chicago crowd that he fired CM Punk. He mentioned once that it was ultimately his call, while repeatedly stating how he had a committee make the decision and how it wasn’t his idea in the first place. Like, just own it already. It’s his company and he’s afraid to be looked at as the tough boss.
@MrRjh63
@MrRjh63 10 ай бұрын
Another case of putting a nice guy in a position he shouldnt be in.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 10 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what he’s saying
@ChadWells-k5e
@ChadWells-k5e 9 ай бұрын
Hah exactly. Tony “I was in fear for my life” Kahn is spineless. At least stick by your move of firing him. Danielson headed up a committee? Does Danielson have the power to fire people? Of course not. Own up to your shit little dude.
@theconnected7234
@theconnected7234 10 ай бұрын
Just looking at how much the quality of Collision, and the stories of FTR, Starks, and House of Black to a degree have all fallen off makes it clear Tony picked the wrong side
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
AEW has no creative. It's up to the wrestlers to make the most of the opportunity. If yr favorite isn't anything, it's up to them. Mox already told you this, but selective deafness seems to be rampant, especially when it doesn't suit your argument
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 10 ай бұрын
​@@rubenbasson2157you're a moron. So is Mox.
@exiaR2x78
@exiaR2x78 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Collision was good and actually building along then after TK fired Punk it went to shit and his guys have all fallen off
@theconnected7234
@theconnected7234 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157 you sound like you're having your selective period, so go grab your tampon and chill out
@brianparker5592
@brianparker5592 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157that’s dumb lol and not even true.
@matthew2874
@matthew2874 10 ай бұрын
He sided with the Elite over Punk AND Cody
@robertrodriguez787
@robertrodriguez787 10 ай бұрын
Hey Fool it was Bryan Danielson that was one of the People that voted for punk to be Fired . And not just Tony . So are you saying Danielson is also Kissing the Elite Ass
@gehtdichnixan8561
@gehtdichnixan8561 9 ай бұрын
First, there was no dispute between any Elite-member and Cody. The later maneuvered himself into a corner in AEW by deliberately dropping out of the main title picture/"mid-carding" himself and only realized that he had fcked up some time later. In regards of Punk - "what exactly" is there that any Elite-guy "really" did? Right, 1(!) "promo" (if one wants to call it so) by Adam Page. Which was adressed by TK (Page was fined and suspended, and never again even tried to stir the crapbowl named Punk (his "fans" being the "cute" little sh1tflakes in it). "Everything else" is telltale fantasy made up by either Punk, or his smelly minions. Reality is, Punk wanted out of his contract in '22 already; so, he did his "best" to make Khan look bad, to make the EVP's look bad, to make the whole roster look bad at the "All Out" media scrum; and, making good use of that "opportunity", to unload a truckload of verbal excrements on his "old friend" Colt Cabana who had exactly NOTHING to do with the whole situation. But that still wasn't enough to get fired, so he tried again a year later by attempting to ruin AEW's up-to-today biggest show. Which ultimately got him what he wanted in the first place - and rightfully so, albeit "too late". Now, to have Bryan Danielson as a part of that "disciplinary commitee" means "what" exactly, other than the AEW-locker room has an all-around respectable representative in it? "Somone" from the athletes-side "had to" be included, and it's hard to figure ANYONE whose integrity is less questionable than Danielson's. One could've thought of Sting - but i'm kindof 100% positive the he wouldn't had wanted to expose himself in such a way, it's his "send-off run" after all. But yeah. It's ALWAYS the other side's fault. We all played that game at one point - usually when we were, like, 3? Sadly, some "fans" never mentally evolve past that stage...
@mrbadguysan
@mrbadguysan 9 ай бұрын
@@gehtdichnixan8561you must be a hit at parties.
@mimoe7587
@mimoe7587 9 ай бұрын
​@@gehtdichnixan8561Cody left the main event scene because his division to book was the TNT title and he introduced a lot of single stars to AEW with it. Brodie, Kingston, Darby etc. Where the Elite iced out Cody was backstage burying his segments to Tony and fighting Brandi out of any influence in the Women's division.
@liamstewart4472
@liamstewart4472 10 ай бұрын
Tony Khan offered The Elite so much money to stay with AEW that they didn't even open up talks with WWE. It honestly insane how many bad decisions he keeps making back to back.
@bb-gc2tx
@bb-gc2tx 10 ай бұрын
they would never go to wwe they get to pretend they are top stars in aew they would be just another tag team in wwe and hangman page would be a curtain jerker in wwe if they even signed him which i doubt
@keltners613
@keltners613 10 ай бұрын
and omega will be just a next AJ style give him a push for a yr and nothing after.
@decepticonxhunter4850
@decepticonxhunter4850 10 ай бұрын
@@keltners613 AJ Styles is a grand slam champion in WWE. You don't know what you're talking about. At all.
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
Showing loyalty to the people you built the company off? Imagine
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157and the same morons who add no value to the company you dork ass mark
@matthewfrohbieter1803
@matthewfrohbieter1803 10 ай бұрын
They picked the Elite over Cody too
@davidj5910
@davidj5910 10 ай бұрын
Like I said elsewhere..the only reason why they putting Daniel Bryans name out there is to take the heat off the Bucks. We all know there is no such thing as a disciplinary committee in AEW or anywhere else. The Boss and the EVPs makes those decision and their decision just showed up in WWE. I expect Bryan to be the next to leave. Oh...and expect that tape to leak pretty soon as well..after they edit it.
@linewalker
@linewalker 10 ай бұрын
AEW so into any drama, they can't focus on at least a decent product.
@misterelom
@misterelom 10 ай бұрын
Whether or not you like Punk or even love/hate the Elite, The Bucks should've been stripped of the EVP titles after the brawl backstage. Imagine the VP of Warner Bros getting into a fist fight with an employee of the company and it going public. I doubt David Zaslav would still keep that person (or even both parties involved) in that position assuming they got to keep their job at all.
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 10 ай бұрын
Punk threw the first fist.
@ads2686
@ads2686 9 ай бұрын
​@duckmercy11 and the bucks and their mates stormed his changing room. They are fucking EVP's who had spend months leaking negative stories about the companies biggest star, then started a fight with little nick getting knocked out. 7 guys storm punks room and you don't think that's a problem?
@nickhughes8179
@nickhughes8179 9 ай бұрын
The EVPs committed an act of punitive retribution against an employee. That’s conduct that can get executives fired there FuckDerpy. Not to mention the sleeping with the head of legal.
@donaldsimmons4526
@donaldsimmons4526 10 ай бұрын
Jack Perry undermined him too and he wasn't fired. The elite busted into Punks locker room starting shit while being EVPs and Tony didnt do shit. Konnan is just wrong here, like a lot people i think he's forgetting what actually happened and also treating the elite like children who arent responsible for the fall out of thier actions while treating Punk as the adult who is supposed to babysit them.
@ARandomGuy24
@ARandomGuy24 10 ай бұрын
AEW is marketed towards a niche fanbase. Nobody can be a draw in their companies unless they've already got name recognition working at other companies. It has nothing to do with how good AEW is and everything to do with Tony getting like the Elite at the top who will wrestle the way they want and not in a way that draws a mainstream audience.
@luisortiz1203
@luisortiz1203 10 ай бұрын
Heres the reality, Just for a test i asked my brother if he knew who the Young Bucks and Omega was. My brother had no clue who they were. Granted my brother doesn't watch wrestling anymore. Millions, and thats legit millions of people that use to watch wrestling don't watch anymore. Here's another point. Most people that watch wrestling are old school. 40-60 yrs old. Most people grew uo out of wrestling. Idc how many numbers John Cena drew. Cena drove off millions of wrestling fans.
@exiaR2x78
@exiaR2x78 10 ай бұрын
Gotta remember there was a massive drop before that between Stone Cold hugging Vince, WCW going out of business and the botched invasion storyline. I wouldn't put it on Cena for driving off millions of viewers when it was already in a decline when he became a top guy
@jackiejones3296
@jackiejones3296 10 ай бұрын
fight or not fight, creatively there is nothing left to do with The Elite. They've been heel and face and back many times, Tony Khan should know the rosters need to change to keep the tv shows more interesting.
@BrionTV
@BrionTV 10 ай бұрын
Tony needs to realize that these are people, not action figures that you can just put in a toy box.
@jamesdarwinsmithii7039
@jamesdarwinsmithii7039 9 ай бұрын
I have been saying that for a long time. Tony and those who have the need to go out of their ways to defend him should really learn that.
@jasonthompson9851
@jasonthompson9851 10 ай бұрын
Mr.Socko is a bigger draw than AEW.
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
Kenny Omega has been absolutely ruined in AEW
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
Or did he do some of his best work while injured, went away for surgery, came back and gave us another classic with Ospreay at Forbidden Door, and is now sitting back and watching MJF carry the torch while he takes a deserved step back after being the greatest prowrestler on the planet for more than a decade?
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
He can also rest easy knowing the thing he loves and the style he loves is in safe hands with Will Ospreay.
@richardsmith9615
@richardsmith9615 10 ай бұрын
I disagree, he's one of the only guys who hasn't had his reputation ruined over there. Worth remembering that he's been injured a lot lately, so kept off TV
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157he can rest knowing he was never a stat except to virgin incles and did nothing for the landscape oh and he was never the draw
@sug365
@sug365 9 ай бұрын
He's one of the few over guys they have and gets unfairly grouped in with the bucks/Adam page's anti-punk, anti-star whisper campaign.
@Golden_State_Native
@Golden_State_Native 10 ай бұрын
Angela White is a BIGGER draw than the entire AEW Roster.
@genecide6869
@genecide6869 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@jackdelyea3710
@jackdelyea3710 10 ай бұрын
Tony won’t regret anything because he has autism. No one talks about this. They can’t be reasoned with.
@dmgphotographyfilms6454
@dmgphotographyfilms6454 10 ай бұрын
no tony didnt have to fire punk. and tony didnt even fire him. tony refused to get things under control from the start. When kenny and them went out there Mocking the incident biting dude arm, Tony didn't get control of things. when punk came back and tony's Solution was keep them away from each other instead of Getting things under control. with jack perry again Tony didn't get things under control. Cm punk didn't have to get fired.. Tony should've acted as the owner of a major promotion and Made them be professional.
@Rautz.
@Rautz. 10 ай бұрын
This. That's the difference between aew and wwe. As much as we hear punk is a prick in the locker room, he lasted HOW MANY YEARS at WWE before he no-showed? We had bugger all reports bad mouthing punk during his wwe days until he was fired months after going AWOL. AEW on the other hand, they could not do anything to keep the backstage drama from starting, boiling over and ultimately becoming dirtsheet news. Its apples to oranges when it comes to professionalism between the 2 companies.
@johnnytheworldowner9130
@johnnytheworldowner9130 10 ай бұрын
considering how seriously Kenny Omega claims to take wrestling, he should have wanted to go to WWE for the sake of all of the fresh matches for him.
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
When did wwe take wrestling seriously? Sports Entertainment. R Truth. Every single Roman Reigns match? When?
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157how about being the best company in the world
@MetlKen87
@MetlKen87 10 ай бұрын
​@@rubenbasson2157oh spare me the soapbox bull shit. AEW is just as bad if not worse than WWE. Kota Ibushi on a bike tapping people with a "lead pipe," the Texas chainsaw match, Moxley blading on camera every week, the endless amount of botches every show, anytime the Elite do aby backstage segments on camera, the match where they literally dressed up as space jam. Give me a fucking break. Yall act like AEW is Mid South wrestling in 1982. 🤡
@robertjensen3513
@robertjensen3513 10 ай бұрын
​@@rubenbasson2157Orange Cassidey, Jake Hagars hat, Danhausen, The Acclaimed, Timeless Toni Storm, should I go on?
@exiaR2x78
@exiaR2x78 10 ай бұрын
Didnt him the Bucks and Hangman all decide they would negotiate together and wherever they signed would be together? That pretty much meant they would be in AEW lol. WWE dont want the Bucks, they would probably sign Omega. The Bucks ill give them credit are smart enough to ride the coat tails of Omega lol
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
Hangman Adam Page has been absolutely ruined in AEW
@Zypresse78
@Zypresse78 10 ай бұрын
Tbf I don't mean this in a bad way, but I really think he ruined himself.
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
@@Zypresse78 I think his booking has been shockingly bad. He hasn't helped himself at all though
@therayman4536
@therayman4536 10 ай бұрын
Aew hasn’t been the same since they weren’t able to make FTR/Cm Punk vs the Elite. That was their money match and after that they been stuck between 800k to 900k and 3500 attendance
@Golden_State_Native
@Golden_State_Native 10 ай бұрын
Milli Vanilli are always gonna be a bigger draw than The Young Bucks. 🎶 BLAME IT ON THE RAIN 🎶
@MrPaulf0x
@MrPaulf0x 10 ай бұрын
I think the guy is saying that there’s no draws because they only have their own fanbase & it’s not increasing… drawing the casuals is the point & no growth
@MrJjburgess11
@MrJjburgess11 10 ай бұрын
"Eating cup cakes" 😂😂😂
@hectic105
@hectic105 10 ай бұрын
MJF is a draw normally, but things have gotten a bit out of hand with the “poor bullied MJF” story. Omega on his own is a bit of a draw (when he has singles matches the ratings have proven to go up, just not by a large margin). The Bucks are not. Page also hasn’t been a draw since he won the title. His run was sub-par and he doesn’t get the same buzz he once did from the crowd. I’m not a fan of the Elite, but there are a lot of people on the internet who exaggerate things. They may not draw like Punk did, but they don’t not draw (except for the Bucks on their own, they lose viewers routinely when that’s the case). The problem is that AEW is run like a clubhouse and the Elite have too much sway. Tony was always going to pick them over Punk because firing one person is easier for him than firing a number of people (even if, combined, they don’t draw as much as the one other person).
@aren_gee
@aren_gee 10 ай бұрын
I never heard if AEW had wrestler's court. If they didn't have a "venue" to air out grievances, discussions on squashing real life beef, then of course its gonna blow up. Part of the reason why I think this never happened in WWE, was because you have a stern locker room leader with Taker and the Wrestler's Court. Of course who needs a leader when everyone's advise or counsel is not heeded because the wrestlers in AEW doesn't like to take advise.
@exiaR2x78
@exiaR2x78 10 ай бұрын
They did have a meeting to try and hash things before brawl out ircc the one where Omega said he wouldnt have hired 80% of the roster lol. Thats a way to boost moral from an EVP lol
@jessycruz2465
@jessycruz2465 10 ай бұрын
Tk is afraid to lose the smart indie marks and the dirt sheet writers that's why he will do everything to keep the elite.
@mrpink99
@mrpink99 10 ай бұрын
Because without them, no one else would be watching the shows
@brizwaldjonson
@brizwaldjonson 10 ай бұрын
Bucks don't draw a dime.
@blackout8777
@blackout8777 10 ай бұрын
MJf ain over. Being over is draeing viewers not keeping the same viewers 2,000 people chanting or not
@decepticonxhunter4850
@decepticonxhunter4850 10 ай бұрын
That's the kind of flawed argument Jim Cornette likes to make with Christian. According to him, someone keeping viewers means they're a draw.
@russellcampbell3500
@russellcampbell3500 10 ай бұрын
I truly can’t believe mr.khan hasn’t put an end to little Tony’s spending spree, but what we gonna do if he’s gone folks think about that. At least with khan around it makes wwe step the game.
@piscinaiv7937
@piscinaiv7937 10 ай бұрын
AEW is overusing MJF that's the real problem--to the point of him working legit injured.
@sug365
@sug365 9 ай бұрын
The babyface turn that they clamoured for has been a creative disaster. They're blaming it all on jimmy jacobs. Smart marks never blame themselves.
@nickhughes8179
@nickhughes8179 9 ай бұрын
MJF as a face is JeriHeyDerek’s fault. He admitted it at a press conference to Meltzer Magoo and Sméagol AlvarAss
@Nothereman9999
@Nothereman9999 10 ай бұрын
TK is like the husband that treats his wife like shit but can't understand why she left him. He's a mark and he's too close to The Elite to think straight when it comes to them. The fact is, Punk was the biggest draw they've ever had and he's the one who got shafted because Tony's Elite friends didn't like Punk. That in itself tells me all I need to know about Tony Kahn and his business acumen.
@andisuge
@andisuge 10 ай бұрын
The guy miswrote he ment they can't FN give away tickets. C'mon be real not even MJF can get 5000 people in an arena. That's the uncomfortable truth everybody needs to get real about. 2000 people in a 17,000 seats arena and you give away tickets??? Yeah MJF can't do all that by himself. MJF vs Twinkle couldn't get people to watch on free tv. Those are Facts!
@MrRjh63
@MrRjh63 10 ай бұрын
Alot of the wrestling podcasters really have sunk cost going on with MJF. They all praised him to hell and back and now he is in the drivers seat and is failing they just make excuses or just deny reality.
@anxofernandez3344
@anxofernandez3344 10 ай бұрын
Right now AEW is in a little bit of trouble. They've had a rough 2023 full of bad publicity, even though they had the big Wembley success. The honeymoon phase was over already when Cody left and losing Cargill and Punk doesn't help and there are many factors that have made AEW lose some of its luster, the Elite don't have that much cool factor anymore., some questionable booking decisions that hurt the product, low attendance and low ratings...all just when they're negotiating the TV rights. Hopefully the storm will pass and they'll bounce back eventually, but they need a streak of good news.
@3DBrawlChannel
@3DBrawlChannel 10 ай бұрын
Did the Elite ever really have a cool factor? Seeing them be front and center in AEW was like watching a film where the nerdy kids get to take over the school.
@gloomy9728
@gloomy9728 9 ай бұрын
@@3DBrawlChannel The only two who I would argue that did are Kenny and that Hangman guy (pre-title obviously). Both of them have NJPW to thank for it too.
@KehKeh123
@KehKeh123 10 ай бұрын
if you go by youtube views, christian, edge and mjf are their draws. Why don't they just run a main event story with those three and see if it increase their attendance?
@linewalker
@linewalker 10 ай бұрын
They draw KZbin money haha.
@joegreene7619
@joegreene7619 10 ай бұрын
They draw nothing on TV. MJF is even a viewership loser on TV.
@samgonzalez1687
@samgonzalez1687 10 ай бұрын
Muffins not cupcakes. One is a cake method and the other is a bread method. A little culinary knowledge.
@TheAbsurdist86
@TheAbsurdist86 10 ай бұрын
😭
@samchuk7775
@samchuk7775 10 ай бұрын
Disco : WHAT THAT SOUND???? JOEY :....... KONNAN : UGHH IT was me.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kovulion7777
@kovulion7777 10 ай бұрын
Danielson is a person they all respect and would not talk down to when anyone has problems, that's a step up tbh MJF is a great star, just the Adam Cole and Roddy storyline is kinda like enjoying Broken Matt Hardy, yeah it's over, but it's in the in the nose comedy. But, tbh too, it's much better than what WWE considers as comedy with Tozawa dancing and that's the punchline, wow haha Tozawa is dancing, great Ruffles ad guys
@sug365
@sug365 9 ай бұрын
Danielson I don't know why he's so willing to give him authority when there's a sweet legends deal waiting for him at WWE which he will end up taking.
@Keepinspirin
@Keepinspirin 10 ай бұрын
Ofcourse look at those poor attendance rates and viewers are tanking faster then the titanic but ofcourse he wants his brand too be more like NJPW what a shame Tony khan just purchase your tv network
@KennyCuller
@KennyCuller 10 ай бұрын
The so cal boys club are the friends TK wanted his dad to buy when he was a teenager
@seanobrien9311
@seanobrien9311 10 ай бұрын
0 draws. ZERO. He's legit destroyed MJF
@gloomy9728
@gloomy9728 9 ай бұрын
Guy was at his best with the semi-Roman treatment of not wrestling all the time. Because he didn't wrestle often, it was more important when he did. They over-saturated the guy.
@seanobrien9311
@seanobrien9311 9 ай бұрын
@gloomy9728 100%. He's not novel any more. In my mind if he wants to really begin his legacy, go to WWE. Sure there's more $ in AEW in short term, and he's got Tony by the balls....but absolutely nothing left to accomplish with a dwindling main event roster and ratings/attendance down. If he re-signs, it'll show how un-serious he is about the big picture.
@fordid42
@fordid42 10 ай бұрын
I remember when Hangman had the championship. I wasn't impressed with him whatsoever. Same with Omega, and I've never been impressed with him whatsoever. Very few people in AEW have impressed me, none of The Elite ever have. Their promos aren't the best, and Hangman going off script on CM Punk... don't care who he went off script on, I'd never hire that guy. Darby Allin and MJF have caught my eye, but the TV shows are so... off. I can't explain it any better than that.
@MrJimbaker920
@MrJimbaker920 10 ай бұрын
Siding ?Both Punk and the Elite were suspended for their fight after All Our in 2022.Punk was fired for starting a fight with Jungle Boy-not the Elite at All In this past Summer
@Aj6711
@Aj6711 10 ай бұрын
MJf isn’t drawing numbers . K dog talks about the whole place like what he does K Dog there less then 5k ppl in a 20k building that not a lot of ppl 🤣😂😂 they never sell out hell they don’t even max out the small portion of the building they have open. The ratings are 800-875 max how is that a draw K Dog How?
@phatbob77
@phatbob77 10 ай бұрын
Take Jade for example,she looks more of a star on wwe through brief appearances than she ever did as aew champion
@parisiennemoonlight6650
@parisiennemoonlight6650 10 ай бұрын
I dont understand why so many past wrestlers go ga ga over MJF. He is a great Pro Wrestler no doubt and probably one of the best promo guy in the current generation but if you cant move the ratings, if you can't move the merc sales, if you cant sell more tickets, you are not just that great. The way these past wrestlers have put him to such a level doesn't justify what is obviously flawed in AEW in terms of business. MJF is the face of AEW and when you are in that position, if your product is not growing and stale with less interest among audience, the company is to be blame but we also need to accept that fans largely dont give a shit abaout MJF, period. If they do in majority, we would have atleast seen some improvements in the ratings and the ticke sales, not necessarily beat WWE which is a far cry but there has to be improvement in some parameters to compliment his greatness.
@nathanwagner9895
@nathanwagner9895 10 ай бұрын
1000000 agree with konnan.. never should have been "them or me situation". tony holds all the cards at the end of the day and the facts are tony didnt play any of his cards correctly.
@jamalq7533
@jamalq7533 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Punk fan but at the end of the day, you can't be putting your hands on your employer. No business in the world would allow you to keep your employment if that was to ever happen
@sug365
@sug365 9 ай бұрын
We don't know what happened.
@TheGoonsies
@TheGoonsies 10 ай бұрын
No way he regrets it. He wants to keep the locker room happy and they seemed to hate Punk lol. TK only cares that the wrestlers keep going out and doing whatever nonsense they want.
@ChadWells-k5e
@ChadWells-k5e 9 ай бұрын
Tony let 2 of what are now 2 of the biggest stars in WWE go because the “elite” act like a bunch of children and can’t put their personal feelings aside to do business.
@433podcastfootball
@433podcastfootball 10 ай бұрын
Mjf gonna be what aj styles were in tna on that bingo hall
@OreoForRuario
@OreoForRuario 10 ай бұрын
He didn't side with The Elite. Punk assaulted a coworker and was terminated, the same as you would be if you did that in any workplace. Let's see if he lasts longer in WWE than he did in AEW lol
@AG-xc5ni
@AG-xc5ni 10 ай бұрын
Lol Tony had no authority to undermine.
@TheIslandDivision
@TheIslandDivision 10 ай бұрын
Marks repeating a catch phrase is not a draw. Those fans are going to be there rain or shine. Why is Jungle Jack still there?
@switchlite44
@switchlite44 10 ай бұрын
He may regret firing CM Punk but he will never say it and he shouldn't honestly if he wants his company to even have some sort of dignity
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
A young billionaire living his dream will never regret losing cm punk. I bet TK doesn't even admire punk as much as he did before meeting him. I used to be a punk fan, but now I'm off him. Imagine an old man scrapping with kids in the street. He's foolish
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157imagine how stupid jack Perry is attacking him from behind and still getting choked out 😂😂
@rubenbasson2157
@rubenbasson2157 10 ай бұрын
@@Tumorcoach you were there? You saw this? You've seen video? There has been open discussion about the situation?
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 10 ай бұрын
@@rubenbasson2157 hey dumbass TK even said this I know logic and reading isn’t your skill set but slow down maybe you’ll comprehend……😂😂😂 yes it happened jack Perry must be as weak and pathetic as you
@ravenstrahd5234
@ravenstrahd5234 10 ай бұрын
CM Punk was the guy Warner Discovery wanted. Tony Khan likely violated his tv contract by firing him. Warner Discovery is bidding for tv rights to air Monday Night RAW right now. What are the odds that WWE would air on a warner-discovery network with Tony Khans lackluster wrestling product? No chance in hell. AEW will disappear in 2024.
@ualreadynowhatitis
@ualreadynowhatitis 9 ай бұрын
Balding Buck. Twinkle Toes McFingerBang. Hangnail Page. Who needs a draw like CM Punk when you have these superstars
@xjf459
@xjf459 10 ай бұрын
So tired of Connan…. Hangman disregarded Tony’s authority via going into buisness for him self starting this whole thing on live TV… The Bucks and Omega bursting into Punks locker room was a complete disregard to Tony’s authority, overstepping their positions and a direct threat to a coworker… buuuuut got their asses handed to em. Connan is not the most intelligent sounding fella in vernacular or cognitive processing.
@stephenmonachello6256
@stephenmonachello6256 10 ай бұрын
I disagree with you guys. I think the question was not clear. I think they meant to say that MJF is not drawing enough and not drawing new fans. AEW is not run very professional. That is all on Tony. He really needs to have real executives and not talent in charge. Better discipline and someone who knows how to book or AEW will be gone
@renafan3333
@renafan3333 10 ай бұрын
To defend Tony Khan the few times he does the right thing,I can understand it. Punk would have been gone eventually,even if his contract ran out. It would have been a nightmare if he let Omega and Hangman go to WWE. Look what they did with Lexus King. In 2 weeks he was a star,what they couldn't do in 3 years with Brian Pillman Jr. Them getting their hands on Hangman? Also we have seen in Japan,what a company can do with Omega when they have him under control and he does what they tell him to.
@markmann5539
@markmann5539 10 ай бұрын
the shilling for MJF is too much
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 10 ай бұрын
He will when he goes bankrupt or AEW turns into Impact 2.0 in terms of coverage. Outside of Kenny Omega, all of the members are snakebit from this because of a past. Kenny and the Bucks are also going into the 40s and Kenny's body has already shown signs of break down, so they cant do the Jr Japanese Strong Style high spot shit forever. Without psychology and understanding, they also won't have a fallback on and Khan is already set to lose Sting and Danielson next year.
@SuperWamJake
@SuperWamJake 10 ай бұрын
AEW is about to sign a BILLION dollar TV deal. Trust me, Tony Khan made the right decision. Punk and his toxicity would have surely tanked the entire deal but once they sign this, let me tell you, AEW will be a made program and Wwe will be trembling in abject terror watching in horror as Cm Junk ruins their locker room like he did AEW and tanks their ratings. Watch Raw struggle to get 1million viewers, mark my words, once fans get tired and disgusted by Phony Phil, that is the same thing that happened with AEW. Even now AEW's ratings have not recovered from the drop thanks to Cm Junk's destroying them... but, once the Young Bucks are back, the plan is they will be the hottest Heel stable in the industry, once they align with Brandon Cutler and the Devil Man. Did somebody say... Four Hoursemens? Plus, think of the bangers they will put on, it's crazy how ahead of the game they are compared to Wwe's roster. Tell me anyone in Wwe even capable of getting over 4 stars. Come on, name them. YOU CAN'T. Meanwhile, 4 stars is like the average for AEW and for the Bucks it would be a lower rated match, they are hitting 4, 5, 6 and sometimes even 7 star ratings. 2024 is the year of AEW
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
If you believe this then your parents are related by blood
@Rautz.
@Rautz. 10 ай бұрын
Hi Dave
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
@@Rautz. Aren't they funny?
@Rautz.
@Rautz. 10 ай бұрын
@@philwalsh8975 most definitely. These shills crack me up on how badly they want you to opt into their product/narrative
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
@@Rautz. It really is scary
@marathiboi96
@marathiboi96 8 ай бұрын
Even with Loss, AEW will survive as long as shahid doesn't pull the plug, Tony is a man child, he would literally take losses to keep this company floating. If they managed decent profits in two years, they would be sticking around. If TNA can stick around for 20 years, AEW has more than enough chance to survive. They just need to remove the creative power of bucks and omega, they're literally favouring their friends more than anything
@vladdebrancovan7011
@vladdebrancovan7011 10 ай бұрын
They are draws but never will draw more than a million… AEW is totally relying on a niche audience and not booking the show to grow it… it doesn’t help that their current audience and performers don’t want to diversify their audience or grow it.
@themadviking5746
@themadviking5746 10 ай бұрын
I doubt Punk had issues with Omega considering they were talking the same night of the fight and reportedly didnt get involved , but he's probably not far from retirement, he wrestles protected matches and admits he isnt old Kenny . But him needing to go I doubt was an issue . The Bucks started the fight , continued it secretly through minions and meltzer . Refused to have a sit down and be adults .Matt is another cripple ready to be retired , both of them are currently at home on a break or some crap from wrestling even though they just went on lenthy vacations . Punk was the draw , so was Cody . So in one years time, they ran off the money men so they could feel special again . 3 or 4 guys for one hmmm two of which are borderline handicapped and the other's main event statis has long since passed . I dunno I would've rolled the dice kept Punk , let the Bucks whine , they maybe go to WWE get grinded up on the road , get a year maybe two year push . The only benefit? Would be better figs . Mean while the draws in AEW are gone and AEW again looks dumb .
@EViLGrEEn42090
@EViLGrEEn42090 10 ай бұрын
I’ll say this, MJF would be a huge star in WWE and he should totally not stay in AEW. That dude is money. I think MJF could have a great ten years there easily.
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL 10 ай бұрын
you say that but why isn't he drawing for AEW? you cannot deny that numbers have been bad for his entire run on top
@darrylwalker6935
@darrylwalker6935 10 ай бұрын
Yes He Will PERIOD💯💯💯
@williampattison8903
@williampattison8903 10 ай бұрын
Hangman started all this shit and he should have been suspended before anyone.
@kenidocleveland4359
@kenidocleveland4359 10 ай бұрын
Konnan....those are the same aew fans cheering for him....why cant he get new fans
@jasondouglas152
@jasondouglas152 10 ай бұрын
Tony klown = nepotism 101
@griffmendez
@griffmendez 9 ай бұрын
I think you guys might be overselling MJF's appeal.
@user-gt7dt4bb9f
@user-gt7dt4bb9f 9 ай бұрын
Staying along par isn't cutting it bud 🤷🏽‍♂️
@matthewmullen3727
@matthewmullen3727 10 ай бұрын
I love Disco and Konnan but y’all got to quit being nice to TK… he f’ed it up and it’s never coming back. TK will Never bring the company back he has a mark’s brain and not a booker’s mindset.
@malcomx-snowden-assange9673
@malcomx-snowden-assange9673 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. AEW will be ending and tv pro Wrestling is back to a monopoly. WCW Supporter here
@vspecmaster
@vspecmaster 10 ай бұрын
Konnan doesn't seem to understand that most wrestling fans don't live on the Internet, and the loud minority that do aren't paying for tickets to these shows, which is why theyre seeing diminishing returns in sales and merch. MJF isn't nearly talented enough or popular enough to lead a company, YET, and the numbers are loud and clear.
@RICHx323
@RICHx323 10 ай бұрын
Mjf ain't a draw. Dudes mid, runs the same promo week after week and can't keep WWE or its talent out his mouth cause he wants that cheap pop. Mjf current run is basically the kiss ass babyface he accused Punk of doing 😂
@roobear78
@roobear78 10 ай бұрын
konan is funny as shit " everybody there is chanting his name!" yeah i think thats the guy that wrote in's point dude,all like 1000 of the die hard fans,but the rest of the arena is empty! Its a fact they are giving away tickets on the day of shows to try and get people in! Their product isnt strong because people who were intrested have been driven off with the endless shit comeing out the locker room, he lost cody which was bad image wise really bad,then he got and totally wasted punk which could have been a catalast if he did right by him to really up the company! But time and again he lets the bucks,omega and jericho run his company for him when their only vested interest is keeping themselves on top and others out the top spots! He doesnt have the balls to get rid of them because then he looses the only niche he has! Its the ver defention of backed into a corner,even meltzer is showing signs of jumping ship,and when the rats leave its over!
@StoneCold-Stutter
@StoneCold-Stutter 10 ай бұрын
So sad Konnan has become the authority Shilling Tony Kahn. Never 100 about that man for some reason
@BSO111968
@BSO111968 9 ай бұрын
AEW Wrestlers have way to much power that’s the problem…wrestlers should not be EVP or over departments that hand out fines..wrestlers wrestle and hire people do do the other jobs that’s why AEW won’t be around in 5 years
@ljwhat1734
@ljwhat1734 10 ай бұрын
MJF WAS a Draw. He was the Devil. He was a Wiseass. He was the Best Kind of Heel - Roddy Piper / Ric Flair. This Face turn with Adam Cole is Terrible. It was so Forced & Fake from the jump. Ask yourself this... Would MJF have ever Gotten Over if he began his AEW career playing the Face role he's playing now?? Be Honest... No F'n Way!!
@MetlKen87
@MetlKen87 10 ай бұрын
Lol MJF was decent when he was a give no fucks heel. In the last year he's become a huge joke and has lost his value. Nobody cares that the weirdo neckbeards in the front row laugh and chant for him all night? He doesn't draw anyone whos not already going to watch the show or buy their merch anyways.
@ramses1500
@ramses1500 10 ай бұрын
Crazy i liked everyone on the roster before AEW on roh/njpw now I can’t stand them
@HunterDrone12
@HunterDrone12 10 ай бұрын
Honestly WWE is taking a big risk with Punk. (Probably unnecessarily to be honest.) however I see the money to be made……. In betting how long he stays till he gets fired.
@Rautz.
@Rautz. 10 ай бұрын
He'll be there for the same amount of time he was there during his first stint at wwe
@HunterDrone12
@HunterDrone12 10 ай бұрын
@@Rautz. dude is in his mid 40s and has a body made of Glass
@Iam_Seda666
@Iam_Seda666 9 ай бұрын
Negative, Phil is one of the greats in my opinion and he doesn’t fit in WWE at the moment. The best wrestlers right now are in AEW. It’s a shame Phil couldn’t keep it chill he could’ve had some really great matches in AEW. Bret Hart WCW 96 is what punk looking like right now, tell me when I’m lying.
@alexmelendez6732
@alexmelendez6732 10 ай бұрын
I like mjf but you got a roster with Mjf Omega Jericho Edge Christian Bryan Danielson Adam cole The youngbucks Tazz Rvd Surrayah Ruby soho Big show Hangman paige Again great talent but can't even sell half the arenas. If MJF is that big of a star as well as edge and others they would not have problems selling out shows. CM PUNK just returning brought 2 million viewers on Rampage a B-SHOW you do gotta take that into account. MJF is hot but is he a draw? No. Edge i love edge but is he a draw? No. CM punks now wwe return 75 million reactions overnight now well past 100 mil. Big difference. Punk is and was aew top star. EVPS are a waste.
@roberthakchin8520
@roberthakchin8520 10 ай бұрын
NJPW and ROH do not draw
@BigNiz82
@BigNiz82 10 ай бұрын
TNA invades NXT!
@joegreene7619
@joegreene7619 10 ай бұрын
Omega and Jericho don't draw crap.
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL
@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL 10 ай бұрын
which is why it makes me wonder how long they'll stick around.
@robertwilkinson4435
@robertwilkinson4435 10 ай бұрын
I'm must admit I was buzzing when cm punk came back to the WWE. I just wish AEW can sorta get more organized I'm sick of seeing comments of people looking AEW too just go out of business they dont fill arena etc etc number 1 it's another company that will keep someone working stop looking it to die at the moment AEW is not my thing but I keep up too date what's going on if they just got more organized maybe someone with experience booking shows plus I'd love more storylines keep us drawing into the product every week. They're still a young company still learning but they need too be careful learn do it right wwe has a massive head start maybe others wont agree with me but I've noticed wwe have been alot better lately for far too long stuff airing on tv wasnt good. If I was tony I'd use ROH as their development promotion that's what I'd do but hey I'm just a wrestling fan not an expert in the business.
@redrag0n_
@redrag0n_ 10 ай бұрын
Tony has launched his greatest warhead on WWE. It's all part of his masterplan.
@theconnected7234
@theconnected7234 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to believe that if it went for Collision tanking in quality
@eptx830
@eptx830 10 ай бұрын
Like when Russo was sent by WWE to ruin WCW? Keep dreaming buddy.
@mikefegan2324
@mikefegan2324 10 ай бұрын
Tony Khan knows more about wrestling than you ever will
@gak1146
@gak1146 10 ай бұрын
MJF is boring.
@sandyunderpants4376
@sandyunderpants4376 10 ай бұрын
He was eating muffins not cupcakes. Sheesh! Konnan doesn't even watch wrestling.
@8Bitorbust
@8Bitorbust 10 ай бұрын
I think Punk started to look at other options during his 9 month absence because he saw the writing on the wall. I think the biggest issue honestly was a difference in ideologies on what pro wrestling should be and you could hear that in Punk's rant. Had they actually sat, took the time to communicate with each other, perhaps they reach a compromise and this all gets avoided. But it's done and here we are. Best of luck to everyone moving forward.
@georgealvarez1195
@georgealvarez1195 10 ай бұрын
Problem is Konnan, when you say "the whole place is cheering him on" that "whole place" is 3 thousand people lol
@almightyironhead25
@almightyironhead25 10 ай бұрын
😅😂😅 absolutely 💯 😅
@joegreene7619
@joegreene7619 10 ай бұрын
On a good night. Those audiences continue to get smaller.
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
Matt Jackson has been absolutely ruined in AEW
@davidwollerton1356
@davidwollerton1356 10 ай бұрын
He was never that good anyway.
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 10 ай бұрын
@@davidwollerton1356 they could have been stars
@gloomy9728
@gloomy9728 9 ай бұрын
@@philwalsh8975 The Bucks weren't even over in Japan.
@philwalsh8975
@philwalsh8975 9 ай бұрын
@@gloomy9728 I never really watched that stuff
@GeeCoach35
@GeeCoach35 10 ай бұрын
The guy didn't mean literally no one cared about MJF. He means no one cares enough to grow the audience. Ratings dropping and so is ticket sales. No one is a draw in that company because you're getting the same diehards that's always been there. Tony's unlimited funds that he gets from someone else make him different than any other "promoter" in history and it jades his outlook on the business. He won't go hungry if it fails so he's not running it like a actual business. How else can you explain him giving the Bucks a huge new deal when they add no value to the product? They're not over any longer and yet another new faction won't help and they hemorrhage viewers during their segments. I couldn't imagine if great bookers the past had his resources and father's connections what they could've got done
@almightyironhead25
@almightyironhead25 10 ай бұрын
Good shit. I Couldn't have said it any better...
@theecharmingbilly
@theecharmingbilly 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's like pretending Chris Jericho is some icon because he got the base to sing that terrible song.
@c.riddle8354
@c.riddle8354 10 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@MercyBlastTV
@MercyBlastTV 10 ай бұрын
Konnan says Punk undermined Khan's authority but it was already undermined by The Elite. Konnan has said himself that the locker room was already toxic even before CM Punk signed on. Now with the news regarding Danielson, Khan once again sidesteps things according to the narrative. Bottom line is that AEW's biggest problem wasnt Punk, isnt The Elite but Tony Khan himself.
@jamalq7533
@jamalq7533 10 ай бұрын
True, the elite wouldn't even talk to punk to clear things over. But punk did attack tony (or tried to). At the end of the day, you can't be doing that to your boss
@Wubbit_Reacts
@Wubbit_Reacts 10 ай бұрын
@@jamalq7533 to be fair we don’t know that he tried to attack khan. All khan said was he feared for his life. That could mean anything. And even meltzer came out and said he “downplayed” what happened. Why? That tells me if he downplayed this, only to come out and say it was worse then we thought, how many punk stories did he choose to over exaggerate the details ?
@jamalq7533
@jamalq7533 10 ай бұрын
@@Wubbit_Reacts hmm interesting. I don't listen to meltzer but I did read punk lunged at Tony which is still enough to get you fired anywhere else. If that is the case then Tony would look even weaker if he had kept punk
@robertrodriguez787
@robertrodriguez787 10 ай бұрын
​@@Wubbit_Reacts Yeah and unless you were there you don't know what happened backstage
@MercyBlastTV
@MercyBlastTV 10 ай бұрын
@@jamalq7533 Not saying thats alright IF thats what happened. What got things to that point in the first place though?! As we've all seen, AEW's woes have not gone away along with Punk's dismissal but have seemingly escalated. It may be his Dad's money which has financed AEW but Tony Khan is the one who is managing (or mismanaging?) the promotion. As he goes, so do and will,they as well.
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