Konrad Curze's FINAL CONVERSATION with the Emperor | Warhammer 40K Lore

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0:00 You Are Not Weak
3:01 Sanguinius Warned Me
6:41 There Was Never Anything To Forgive
11:13 Light Is Within You All
14:00 The Functioning Of This Universe

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks to Voice Of The Tiger for voicing Curze! Check out his channel here which has more 40K content! kzbin.info/door/hKHXR5GWZ2lG65sq7i9_jg Join the channel discord! discord.gg/YJB3GmsreR

[@vladimirpugh194]

Curze: Has two visions of a path in the immediate future and chooses a third path. Also Curze: The future I foresee is inevitable

[@monoremu3200]

It's insane even Konrad acknowledged himself that it's BS for him to be forgiven after everything he'd done, and when the Emperor doing just that, it just fortified his resentment that even this obvious justice for a monster like him can still be overruled by his Father because he's His son.

[@ironduke5058]

It's pretty wild, it seems the Emperor really does care for his sons because the love he's extending out goes past the point of sense. The dude told Mortarion after 10k years of betrayal and even after he sold his soul to hell he could still save his boy.

[@monoremu3200]

@ironduke5058 Ok, I recently learned that this encounter is in Godblight, right! Was it Boatman or BigE that told Morty he's yet to be redeemed, and to return to his chosen Master?

[@ironduke5058]

@@monoremu3200 It was Big E that possessed the dying body of Gorillaman, saved him, and then told Morty he can still save him. He more than likely could've killed him permanently right there and then seeing as Robotman was wielding his sword. But evidently he didn't.

[@iwatchyoutube4179]

@@ironduke5058 and then there's angron lol

[@ericmacrae6871]

@I watch KZbin the entire Angron story piss me off. We really need some sort of closure of what happened. What I recently learned about those events was in the point of view of Angrons. We know how unstable his mind his and how he remembers things. Just think about the entire interaction he had with Leman Russ and the space wolf where he believed he won because Leman Russ back down even taught it was clear that he out played his brother and his insanity could not see that. Even Logar had to realize that there is nothing he can do to help him realize this. Than there is the fact that Logar in order to save is brother he had to elevate his brother into a deamon prince

[@simetheticdevil4774]

If only Curze could have been adopted by a rich couple, so they could get shot in an ally after watch zoro

[@S_047]

50/50 he becomes Batman or (it being Nostromo and everyone in there is a psychopath wanker) he becomes like Ramsay snow , but with the primarch skill to back it all up

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

Konrad Curze is such a majorily underrated character from 40k. He may seem like just "Grimdark Batman" at first glance but he goes so much deeper than that and ultimately has one of my favourite stories of all time.

[@voiceofthetiger]

I'd say the same - I believe that his curse was actually a strong reason for him to become what he became and opt to end it all cause it is useless.

[@kathiresandk3154]

I always thought Corax was more like Batman. Curze is an amalgamation of Joker and Bane.

[@nutellanorbert2799]

As almost every primarch. Angron the angry thug hides so much drama. Fulgrim /slaanesh is soooo mich more than sxx drgs and rocknroll Lorgar is in his concept so deep but so badly written. The metaphors of the primarchs are deep. It’s a whole pantheon

[@hentaimindtrick]

Dude! You have such a great story telling voice! It really brings what you say alive! I'm new to the Warhammer universe and your one of my favorite KZbinrs! Keep up the good work!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks so much man! Glad you're enjoying the vids

[@thatcooldude9147]

I choose to believe that the Emperor was like Liam Nisan, and Konrad just nuked Megaton. “I am very disappointed in you, but I still love you”

[@kathynguyen8519]

This is amazing, I truly feel the love in The Emperor voice

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks!

[@Ludecan]

Jesus Christ, what a good Lore video! That conversation between Konrad and the Emperor is incredible. Haha I just talked today with ChatGPT about determinism and fate. Love this take. Thanks for sharing!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Glad you enjoyed it! Waiting for chatgpt to just replace my channel at this rate 😂

[@voiceofthetiger]

What did the machine told about determinism? :)

[@Ludecan]

@@voiceofthetiger hah, it was very interesting. He said both determinism and free will are philosophical currents, kind of laying information rather than taking a stance, but then when I argumente in favor of mine he did bring about the arguments why the other one was also possible. In the end he conceded that my point of view was reasonable though its a complex matter and that there's no consensus in the subject. It was a very fun philosophical discussion, much like you can have with a friend and he also brought a few interesting concepts and arguments to enrich the discussion. I'll try to upload it somewhere. I'll let you know if I do

[@voiceofthetiger]

@@Ludecan I'm looking forward!

[@reidboggs4344]

I agree with Konrad’s opinion that the scattering and the heresy were part of the plan. Think about it. The only reason Angron is still alive is because he ascended to daemonhood, and should he somehow be turned from chaos he no longer has The Butcher’s Nails implanted into him.

[@kira68200]

sad story, I didn't know all of this until now, thanks for that but for me the true tragedy of warhammer 30k/40k is still Angron if the nails have never been implanted on him, perhaps we could have 2 vulkan, perhaps if the Emperor has help him save his comrades perhaps he could have been truly loyal

[@SandmanofTerra]

Definitely a great story also

[@kira68200]

@@SandmanofTerra yes, a sad one, even death was refused to him, thanks Lorgar ... you a*shole

[@mzamethodman7134]

Yeah Angron's story just, idk, just hits hard to me idk why

[@irosas6539]

I love your voice, I love your videos, I love your content, don't stop!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thank you so much! You got it!

[@adamchapman8632]

Sick video, but why does Konrad sound less insane and more like he just sustained a concussion

[@meateaw]

That's how voice of the tiger does all his voice work. Everyone sounds like they have a concussion, slurring their words together into run on sentences. Some people love it, and I don't begrudge them that. Not my favourite, but art rarely meets everyone's approval.

[@sikozen]

😭😭😭Do all villains just need a friggin’ hug…?

[@ScottishRandyMarsh]

I can see the Voice Drinkers successor chapter coming for those chords in your neck @Sandman of Terra Great work!

[@SandmanofTerra]

😂

[@trevorhoward9336]

Loved every second of this brilliant lore vid thank you

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks so much man!

[@o.w.n.1327]

I hope they bring Konrad back with Zso Sahaal. In a way Konrad is also the most human he is haunted by his visions and his choices he is desperate like us. Konrad is a good man he just doesn't believe it.

[@SandmanofTerra]

I would make for a really interesting story, I just feel it could ruin the character

[@o.w.n.1327]

@@SandmanofTerra I mean I heard that the originial author left black library in a bad mood so I dont think we will ever hear anything from Zso though its been a long time so you never know. Zso in my opinion could have a different outlook on the Night Lords since he is Terran but idk maybe he will be like Sevatar understanding the real purpose of the Night Lords. Well thank you for the video it was very enjoyable!

[@jruthnam]

Mate please make more of these long form lore videos! Fannnnntastic 🙌🏽

[@dewananda_dn]

Corax: Batman Curze: Batman but joker💀

[@eonstar2441]

Great Perspective Awesome Vid ❗️

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks for watching!

[@dfailsthemost]

I always figured the emperor knew the heresy was likely, but not inevitable. But he saw no other path to defeating chaos. Like, he calculated the different strategies and knew only one path would even possobly work.

[@boutinpowered8373]

Longest redemption arc ever.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Oh what might have been!

[@josephskiles]

Father Curze did nothing wrong

[@voiceofthetiger]

Thank you for the collaboration it's a pleasure to work with you! I really enjoyed the video.

[@SandmanofTerra]

A pleasure man!

[@moriendus]

Great video, and you were properly respectful of the God-Emperor, beloved by all, unlike many other KZbinrs who do not deserve to be named.

[@SandmanofTerra]

😂 thanks man!

[@piercethroughheart5700]

Some heretics they are..

[@jonharrison9222]

Like Arch.

[@culixstar]

right after the assassin's video feed cut out a golden shield of light blocked the blade, saving Konrad's life. and in a booming voice they bother heard BIG E command Curze to LIVE!!!

[@Tarik360]

That last segment, the functioning of the universe part just made me get over my fear of dicerolls in tabletop. Also I am reminded by Vulkan's speech of a line from Hellsing: "Integra, there are many immortal monsters who roam this earth. When I look at them I wonder were they created out of a desire for immortality? Many of them desire war, I have seen them roaming the bloodiest of battlefields but in their battle cries I hear a craving; I think they cry out for death." "Nosferatu. The no-life king; his castle, his kingdom, its' people, his loved ones, even his very identity... everything was lost... All that remains is a pale shadow, wandering from battle to battle. I have come to believe Integra, that those frightening immortals are in fact; frail, sobbing children." also "an ancient Terran parenting technique" "telling him he isn't angry, just disappointed" hehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

[@roycethompson3161]

Ive never really had the time to get too into the warhammer lore, as far as actually reading and owning the novels goes anyway, but I have a feeling that if I did, my favorite parts of it wouldn’t be the overarching characters lore, or the political intrigue, nor the vast military campaigns, though I would love those things, but rather, the little individual moments like the one described in this video, where all is laid bare, and truths are revealed. These sorts of little moments tell me all I need to know about the Primarches, and it fascinates me. Thank you for detailing to us this moment. It really helps me understand his mentality during his life.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Cheers for watching!

[@redsol3629]

Prophecy is insidious because knowing of it ensures you fulfill it.

[@DerekCFPegritz]

I've always pictured Curze as speaking with a Romanian accent, since 1) he's kind of a vampire figure, and 2) Nostraman is described as a very sibillant, hissing tongue--and that's exactly what Romanian is.

[@briharrisWarhmmer40kfan]

By the cheesey Dracula accent of Sevetar that was amazing!!! 😮

[@josephskiles]

Father Curze made total sense when he proclaimed that the scattering of the Primarchs was no doing of the ruinous powers, and it can be proven in an extremely simple way. Let's take him for instance. Father was sent to Nostramo, a planet where the sun never truly shines. The population almost all have jet black hair, completely black eyes, and pale skin. Father had these exact same features, and for anyone who would say the environment shaped his appearance remember that his geneseed completely alters it's recipients to almost always have these features as well? The initial Night Lords ( the children of the night)were Terrain born, and after getting the geneseed implanted they almost all gained the physical quirks of their genefather. How about Vulcan? His quirk of skin and eye color were also passed on despite it the recipient had ever seen Nocturne or not. It would be ludicrous to think the Primarchs just happened to be sent to the exact planets out of unknown millions that they were custom made to fit in with would it not? Big E planned this, there is no other explanation. My theory is not only did he have his plate full with all of his various projects to raise 20 sons but he also designed them to perfectly embody various aspects of himself ( Angron was his rage, Fulgrim his desire to strive for perfection, Vulcan his humanity, Rogal his autism, father his sense of justice though it became perverted, etc), if they were all raised together the chance of this happening would lesson greatly as their various personalities would probably have mixed as they took each other's views. Also each son needed to become their own man and prove their own worth without daddy bailing theirs asses out every time there was a challenge ( of course E as usual fucked that royally up in some cases like Morty and Angron, with disasteres results). This subject was always the biggest plot hole I have noticed in primarch lore, and I had no idea father Curze already brought it up, though I should have. AVE DOMINUS NOX! And thanks for the video!

[@SandmanofTerra]

God I love how much 40k fans associate with their chosen legions/chapters

[@josephskiles]

@@SandmanofTerra would you believe I'm wearing my Night Lords power armor hoodie as I write these comments?

[@Brutalyte616]

Slight flaw with your logic. When Angron was taken as a slave on Nuceria, he had a psychic ability to ease the pain of others, even those suffering from the Butcher's Nails. What he did was similar to the ability that the Emperor used on Konrad to break his fit of madness upon seeing the Emperor's future. And Angron lost that ability once he received the Butcher's Nails.

[@josephskiles]

@@Brutalyte616 he's a bit of an outlier in what I said but doesn't totally disprove it, who knows what would have happened without the nails or if he could have won his place like most of his brothers

[@Brutalyte616]

@@josephskiles Well it kind of exemplifies a point. Angron wasn't the Emperor's rage. Instead he was more like the Emperor's empathy and his mercy, a freedom-fighting brother to Corvus and a kind-hearted brother to Vulkan. Konrad wasn't the Emperor's cruelty, he was his sense of justice, which was taken and perverted into the Night Haunter because of the fear and paranoia induced by his visions. The Primarchs had their intended roles, but virtually all of them were beneficent and positive until they were twisted into the worst possible version of themselves by Chaos.

[@throughtfulbrawelergaming6669]

Love the voice storming telling bro keep it up with emperor light content guide u bro. But I have one question after Konad Curze died what happened to his soul? I heard rumors or some other KZbinr said that Konad Soul is transfer to a soul stone that the Eldar has it.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Its just a theory some people have. That he'll be in a soulstone within the Corona nox. There's never been confirmation one way or the other.

[@voiceofthetiger]

Even if that is a case - he decided to end his existence, cause he've seen no point in continuation. I doubt that wants to be resurrected...

[@dziku2222]

I love Konrad's voice acting here, it's sounds totally in character, properly deranged and ridiculous at the same time.

[@537zun4]

I also never heard of this sadly obscure lore and theorising is rare on the namely lore channels like I said please do more at least from time to time ❤

[@godkilla206]

Dude your voice is great for documentaries

[@SandmanofTerra]

Ah thanks dude!

[@PoolNoodleGundam]

Konrad Kurze as pack-a-day Tommy Wisseau is actually kinda genius

[@dfailsthemost]

Having visions of the future which were sometimes but not always true probably would drive me insane, now that i think about. Better all true or all delusion.

[@user-gh6sn3wd7v]

Incredible voice acting on Kurze. Like really.

[@jordanmason7127]

really? I am not sure what he is supposed to sound like but i though it was really bad.

[@ravindunandirathna1600]

Amazing content mate! Did you voice the Emperor?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! ANd I didnt no, it was a friend

[@XBloodyBaneX]

Little by little I'm trying to effectively retcon Konrad's name to Konrad Kurze (Yep. Just a C to a K), because I feel it's more fitting when we have Corvus Corax and Konrad Kurze. CC and KK.

[@SandmanofTerra]

I can appreciate that 😂

[@TheLastGuardsman]

I always thought this was such an anticlimactic death for Primarch

[@GinamosWithCherryOnTop]

Curze is like a player who searches for walk through for mass effect choices and result. But ultimately choose to speed run it leaving the all the comrade’ side quest that determines the ending.

[@SandmanofTerra]

😂 very true

[@GinamosWithCherryOnTop]

@@SandmanofTerra thanks for the video btw. I knew nothing about Warhammer 40k except for wh40k dawn of war games.

[@baddog9188]

LOVE your content! I want moar!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Will do!

[@Daemonik]

Ave Dominus Nox

[@wargames2195]

Konrad and Corax double combo moves when? WHEN?

[@twilightofapprentice8280]

Emperor voice is sole reason to subscribe

[@dfailsthemost]

Does everyone go to the warp after death? Someone may have answered this for me, but I can't remember.

[@Jomi91]

Kurze book was pretty good.

[@Slappy1q7]

Second favorite primarch

[@MrGsking12]

This reminds me of frank Herbert’s book dune

[@SandmanofTerra]

Definitely a lot of 40k was inspired by dune

[@MrGsking12]

@@SandmanofTerra frank Herbert is a real god emperor of sci-fi

[@abdoul5176]

Thanks for Emperor-level voice work Tiger, and great video as always Sandman. I wondered how strong an assassin has to be to take out a Primarch, but she is taken out rather abruptly, shame. Slightly off-topic, but what do people mean When they say Horus is the most powerful Primarch like in what sense?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks dude So originally, Horus is not the most powerful Primarch (certainly in terms of combat prowess), as there are many that can outmatch him. His true strength lies in his charisma, almost everyone likes him (one of the reasons he was the perfect choice to lead the heresy). However there's an important book in the Horus Heresy called Vengeful spirit, which centres around a gate at molech, this is the gate the emperor used to bargain with the chaos gods..Horus does it too (though he really becomes their pawn), and when he returns he has been imbued with huge amounts of power. From this point on, he is certainly the most powerful Primarch (no one else can go toe to toe with big e). In the siege he's described as literally glowing/throbbing with power

[@abdoul5176]

@Sandman 40K Wow! I didn't know such a gate existed. The Emperor feeling the need to bargain with the Chaos Gods and Horus doing the same just makes me respect Abaddon even more lol I'm wondering what's the status of that gate today 🤔

[@gigeorge6sic6]

Kurze is such a tragic figure . I really wish he had somehow been redeemed and become a loyalist

[@arionofotherworld]

What if it was only the Night Haunter persona that died at the hands of an assassin ? maybe from the Callidus neural shredder ? With a repentant Konrad Kurze then taking on a new loyalist identity.

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

I'd love if Horus came back and became loyal again.

[@SandmanofTerra]

That would be completely wild!

[@weightlifter2012]

Yeah emps blasted his soul into smithereens so that's not happening

[@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95]

@@weightlifter2012 As far as we know. They could easily retcon that the Emperor gathered his soul to himself and has been waiting to reincarnate his son.

[@johnl8428]

@@weightlifter2012crazy how the last novel changed everything

[@LJD442]

It was Big E’s godly half in the Warp who jettisoned the lads into space. Just like Slaanesh always being there as a god but also being born by the Eldar means potentially if in some reality or timeline the Emperor became a god willingly or not their is a part of him in the Warp. A consciousness acting independently and sometimes in ways that seem opposite from the one we see in the main continuity of the story. For some reason the deified Emperor has either experienced or witnessed enough possibilities as a low level god to see some merit this aspect of the plan(like starting off with 523 planets you don’t have to conquer(weakest part of my theory I think). The Emperor who had 21 sons scattered was the same guy(if we get real crazy I have a idea about them merging like voltron at some point and elevating the Golden Throne Emperor and the Warp Emperor into the proper Anathema. Or that’s my insane theory. I recently just finished Pharos so I’m sure as I get farther along this theory will have more holes then a golf course. Lol

[@thronesdominions]

"nothing ever dies"... if space marines are the angels of death, are chaos marines the angels of life? (endlessly returning to and manifesting from the well of souls in the Warp)

[@TalosValcoranOfTheFirstClaw]

More like Undead Angels

[@yeet_the_heat6328]

13:00 is literally what I pray for talking about WH40k Especially since the Luna Wolves are my favourite. Not the Black Legion, not the Sons of Horus. The Luna Wolves Legion just like the old Horus wanted it to remain as.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Would be amazing!

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

Cruze is my second favourite Primarch.

[@voiceofthetiger]

Who is the first?

[@toshironif]

Deep down, I admire and respect the character of Konrad Curze. He wanted there to be justice. Unfortunately, the Ruinous Powers hijacked that; in part due to the Emperor's lack of "parenting"

[@randomcenturion7264]

He was born to fulfil a purpose, but never got a good explanation of the finer points of that purpose. "Punish the guilty", is a very vague set of parameters that can result in a lot of tragedy.

[@KamosArn]

would you consider make a live action of Buzz Lightyear?

[@SandmanofTerra]

😂 As long as it performs better in the box office than the last film

[@ourcommonancestry6025]

Auto like for the strongest and best primarch.

[@AnimeArchaeologist]

11:30 - RETURN OF THE PRIMARCHS CONFIRMED?

[@SandmanofTerra]

It'll be an endgame scenario if they were to do it but they like to leave the door open for it

[@Lord_CV]

Book?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Curze's Primarch novel

[@hanshinlee4937]

Is it possible that he’s still alive and that metaphorically the Night haunted died but not Konrad curze? Would people like that?

[@SandmanofTerra]

There's definitely many theories like that! But nothing confirmed

[@TalosValcoranOfTheFirstClaw]

There's this theory that Konrads Soul is Caught in Soulstone in Corona Nox, a crown Konrads wore. If it's true there's a possibility for Konrad to be brought back. If would be back he could start his Redemption Arc, Konrad was already punished for his past sins by death so if he got ressurected he could start everything over and be more of a Warrior of Justice than Goth Batman x Punisher x Wolverine hybrid. Let's say that Night Haunter died from hands of Assassin and now Konrad can be "born" again as a new man. Would be cool

[@MrKrinkelz]

why use that voice for conrad? im interested to know, i was expecting for it to be sophisticated and raspy dracula-esque voice

[@randomcenturion7264]

By this point in his life, Konrad had utterly broken down. He was going absolutely feral.

[@SandmanofTerra]

It's a collab with voice of the tiger on KZbin

[@voiceofthetiger]

@@randomcenturion7264 Indeed, I've imagined him as an insane and broken person. After all he just built a monument out of dead bodies right there ;)

[@MrKrinkelz]

Thanks for the insight guys!!

[@calebmorgan8358]

Was it truly Conrad that didn't learn the lesson on fate? I've always thought it quite the opposite. For all the talk of him running to create the future he saw did not the emperor and the angel do the same? The worst part of his arc isn't his talk with the emperor. It's the angels refusal to kill him. The angel despite his words, ensures he rushes to his own vision knowing it will come to pass. while never altering his brothers vision of what would would come to pass. That was truly Conrad's last chance to alter his own path by another who had similar abilities. So was it truly Conrad who didn't understand or was it him who was right all along. Likewise the emperor followed that same path. He could have sent a primarch such as Vulcan, envoys or even a assassin with a note. It's funny that despite what he's told to the contrary the other 2 strongest precogs seem unable to alter that path while one if those 2 also knows of his own fate and unable to alter it as well.

[@SandmanofTerra]

So this is talked about in the heresy a lot. Curze has doubts about his future (elver is killed when he discovers this) but sanguinius for example actively tries to change the future, he believes he can prevent the black rage, he sees a path to killing Horus, etc. Generally, Sanguinius believes fate is not fixed, Conrad believes fate is fixed.

[@neks0073]

It's an incredible video. I love it. My only issue is the voicing of konrad. Although mad, his speech was not impaired. If you want to deviate from your own voice, this can be done subtly. There is no need to overexheret yourself. Love the video. Regards Dan

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks! It's actually a collab with Voice of The Tiger. its his real voice aha

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

Konrad was justified in the end he did his duty had served his father faithfully only to have the emperor and the imperium turn on him and his legion for doing what they were created for

[@skywise001]

Remember the Emperor had cast out his love - perhaps this voice is that part of his soul - realizing he might be able to help his son one more time. Filled with love and affection for his child.

[@korkronwarlord]

what music is used in these videos?

[@SandmanofTerra]

I use epidemic sound, if you let me know which song, I can try and find the name

[@teobratuteodor1728]

Wait, no one said to Nostramo was kind of close to the Ghoul Stars.

[@ted1995art]

Konrad: NEVER 😂

[@damienruzco]

Why is Kurzes voice so messed up I assume that’s intentional

[@SandmanofTerra]

Curze is completely insane at this point in time,

[@shdwmnkyx]

He didn't hate Talos or Sevitar (probably mispelled though). Especially the latter.

[@shdwmnkyx]

Sevatar

[@SandmanofTerra]

They might well be an exception, I'm just quoting from the book my man

[@alexmellor9455]

Why does he sound like slyvester Stalone?

[@yoloswag_8172]

That voice he has is just wack

[@Yurt_enthusiast7]

I never quite understood the fascination with traitors turning loyalis. The Imperium is the greatest threat to humanity in 40k, why would it be a good thing if a deamon primarch returned to fulfil the Emperor's schemes?

[@ohamatchhams]

You can blame the attempts to have different spans of editions in 30-40 decades at attempting to expand the milky way galaxy of Warhammer 40K with it's lore only to drip it for way too little until recently, even at the cost of making Imperium less of the "bad guys" Even the current latest storyline of the plot-progressing Chaos factions' plotlines are at the cost of the supposed 'fact' about "Imperium wage wars on each other way more often than with chaos and xenos combined), this on top of making Chaos too OP while xenos factions being restricted to main 4-5 ones for a galaxy as big as Milky Way to be portrayed in details the span of around 10.000 years with lots of red herrings, unreliable narrators and inconclusive interpretive stories that breeds only perpetual insanity of non-stop speculations until the lore became husks sooner or later

[@anguishedcarpet]

What accent was the VA for Curze going for? It sounds like you told a 55yo smoker actively dying with congestive heart failure who's only had Fat Bastard as a vocal reference to do an Irish accent lmao

[@jordanmason7127]

ahaha ikr some people seemed to have liked it though

[@specimenlarry6068]

Even Curze's voice is torture.

[@tobsw3802]

The truth of the Primarch's scattering has been revealed in the Horus Heresy novels. They had a really shitty mom that chose to throw her children into literal hell, and then forget about them, rather than let them be close to and work with their dad.

[@clintonclay3158]

Had you not made Konrad sounds like he was on fentanyl it would have been a lot better

[@MrMaximkozin]

wowm I knew he was and edge lord, but had no idea his story is this dark

[@timothyhenegar7484]

Okay let me say this, we have vamps, werewolves, and mummies for space marines. Now where's my fucking frankinstein's monster space marines?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Maybe theyre all frankenstein's monsters?

[@timothyhenegar7484]

@@SandmanofTerra That could be true. XD

[@djbeast2145]

I guess some of fabius bile's creations would be Frankenstein's monsters

[@Ravi9A]

What's the music in the end?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Never Tell Me The Odds, by Dream Cave

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Unpopular fact, it was never said that Horus's soul was destroyed, neither in old nor new lore