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[@playtoyx]

I like the idea of loyalist Alpha legion

[@surtrpicks]

Always dig your vids. Discussion of issues that cross our minds as we read ourselves.

[@nyarleng2463]

Always has been

[@WaggerFiggot15]

Always has been

[@mumblingmercian3386]

As a long time AL player I’m all for it.

[@KanuckStreams]

Always have been.

[@allison1204]

I stand for The Emperor. I am loyal to Him, and I...*checks calender*...cannot break that bond.

[@timecorn]

What's my goal? Throws dice: "Betray" "Self"

[@mekelwander6551]

Am I loyal? *shakes magic 8-ball* Yes.

[@gragsmash]

Alpha Legion is that supervillain who poisons the water supply but this just reveals how bad the infrastructure was so it gets repaired to save lives.

[@RazorSmasher]

I appretiate this reference

[@hyhena-gaming9986]

You fixed my shoulder

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

I know it's a reference to something! But what!

[@gragsmash]

Prozd skit about a supervillain who is accidentally helpful

[@Junglehunter677]

They also showed us how weak our security was and the holes they used to infiltrate our city were supposed to be fixed with funding that they clergy was embezzling so we got that taken care of to.

[@theaholio7037]

for your wedding, get the priest to wear chaplain terminator armor. I was able to get my wife to choose the name Celestine for our daughter. took her 5 years to slowly piece that. together. (she was beyond pissed) she got over it, and my daughter loves her name way. more when I revealed the sisters of battle army I am building for her to play with someday.

[@justinlarkin7392]

I’m excited for when my kid is old enough to build, paint and play 40K with me

[@Jeremy-rp3in]

Id love the Alpha Legion play all three... Loyalist, Renegade and Traitor. Loyalist by majority, Renegade to strengthen the imperium outposts and Traitor to know what Chaos warbands are up too.

[@alexanderklimek9354]

Same argument - mostly loyalist, but many of them ended up like the Space Wolves (vs the inquisition) or the Soul Drinkers and are more ‘renegade’ - and then there are the groups that fell to chaos over the 10k years that almost every chapter has had exist at some stage - that way the Primarch could remain ‘loyal’ to the emperor but still fight the inquisition/Church/etc.

[@sylph4252]

It could also be that parts of the legion are loyal, parts renegade and parts traitor, but since they are so secretive they don't tell each other

[@Jeremy-rp3in]

@@sylph4252 I feel there would eventually have to be a handler for some of the Traitor Marines.. meaning there is definitely someone/something that is in contact with them, either it be through psychic spaghetti or a random cultist just saying a code phrase walking by for the legionnaire to "report in". Conrad Curze even told them that they were some of the most horrible liars in the galaxy, something along the lines of "they hide their biggest sins behind lies." Can't remember exactly

[@waragainstmyself1159]

They've done far more damage though haven't they? Ruining corvis raptors alone..

[@Professor762]

All three are true. Percentages are unknown. In Harrowmaster, we see traitor alpha legion, the redacted that push to fortify the imperium better. The loyalists are hard to find because it’s Alpha Legion.

[@lukkaredwolf3534]

Dorn never realised that the bricks that he used to reinforce the Golden Palace were actually disguised Alpha Legionnaires.

[@mistavimes3366]

Ah bro let her have a Warhammer free wedding and just have a stag do worthy of the Emperor!

[@greatamazinga]

I think it will be interesting to see Alpharius revealed to be working along side The King in Yellow (Constantin Valdor)

[@ADhammer]

Ferrus Manus will receive the Emperor’s dreadnought 💀

[@Dr_Dastardly]

Roboute guilliman and yvraine holding hands on top of the cake. Or Commissar Yarrick and Ghazghkull Thraka: ultimate power couple

[@Junglehunter677]

Lion El Johnson: how long was I asleep? Where's robutte? The watchers: random noises Lion: HE DID WHAT WITH A WHO!?!

[@Vandelgard]

No AI will ever beat these livestreams

[@Tardenator]

This was ai the whole time. Sandman never actually existed.

[@Ilamarea]

But it will replace WH ^^

[@jimbakes2782]

He prefers the term Silica Animus

[@redcell2852]

Damn right!

[@thepyrokitten]

So one thing I always liked about the Cabal and the Alpha Legion story line is the idea that Alpharius Omegon saw through everything and got the bigger picture and is playing the long game. That they had to prepare for the ascension of The Emperor or to stop him from becoming the Dark King. That's why they were the only legion not to enter the Eye of Terror. They would play the role of chaos space marines but couldn't risk actually turning to the dark.

[@leonhardable]

except that the cabal is canonically proven wrong by eldrad and that alpharius didnt see anything at all, from the beginning to the end? they fell for every stupid manipulation to achieve exactly nothing in "the long game". but i have to admit i'm just a huge alpha legion hater. i cannot for the life of me fathom how somebody enjoys their lore.

[@glitchbyt3gaming27]

@@leonhardableOne way is to possess more than one brain cell to rub together.... always a good place to start 🤷🏽‍♂

[@leandrocastello309]

​@@glitchbyt3gaming27 hey, no need to imsult a fellow fan because he doest like your favorite fictional guy. He didnt like the alpha legion didmt insult you.

[@QisforQadim]

@@leonhardable Games Workshop lore is fairly malleable. And Eldrad has gone from being brilliant to being utterly wrong with the stroke of a pen a number of times.

[@lloydgush]

I imagine several did turn to chaos just by playing spy. Repeating a lie often enough can make you believe.

[@PokerDanish]

All your wedding tables should be named "Alpharius" i'm sure that would have an effect...

[@paulprimetime100]

If the tables are named after planets, be worried if you're sat on Isstvan 5...

[@Junglehunter677]

Or Kreig, or cadia, or baal.

[@Vroomerz]

The place to start? Rogue Trader. What books are about the Alpha Legion? All of them.

[@probablythedm1669]

I am Alpharius and I approves of these statements... this is a lie. 😶‍🌫️

[@stphn_alpharius]

Legion Alpharius-Head of the Hydra Shroud of Night Renegades: Harrowmaster

[@LeCharles07]

"She does read the comments" Hi Sandlady of Terra!

[@j3lli3s]

Plp

[@Erebdai]

One of the coolest alliance armies I've seen was Alpha legion camouflaged and a bunch of cadian looking imperial guard with hydras on everything. It looked like the blood angels were helping the hydra Regiment of Cadian guard. The camouflage paint job was really cool.

[@QisforQadim]

My current paint project is loyalist Alpha Legion disguised as Raptors. They look the part, though there are small clues in the models such as XX and 20 having some prominence as well as any helmetless marines having the same features.

[@deamonomic]

The worst part of the alpha legion doing what they did they essentially ensured the very future they were trying to avoid. If they had fully supported the emperor from the start the traitor forces would have faltered Alot more and wouldn't have been able to lay siege to terra as they did.

[@glitchbyt3gaming27]

Thats still literally no guarantee that Horus wouldnt have still put the Emperor onto the Golden Throne tho?

[@narrowstone5363]

​@@glitchbyt3gaming27I remember a stream (forget which one maybe I'll come back once I find it) where sandman makes the point that nothing could've changed it. Guilliman was literally hours away, and no matter what he did guilliman wouldn't have been able to help the emperor because his battle with horus and the result of which was preordained. Not that everything is pre-destined, just that certain events would require systematic changes to avoid

[@SgtTeddybear66]

The Kabal were wrong in their predictions.

[@ryanlindstrom3564]

My money is that Ingo Pech is the space marine that is following around Inquisitor Eisenhorn. Grails seem like the peak way of controlling chaos

[@Vihara2]

The idea of the oldest space marine in the imperium being the first captain of the alpha Legion is a little absurd no?

[@ryanlindstrom3564]

@@Vihara2 I mean why not. He's alive until we see a body and Dan Abnett is writing both stories. Being stuck under the palace for thousands of years is a good way to keep him out of the time line until they use his character again

[@Vihara2]

@@ryanlindstrom3564 no, its just an absurd premise, unless a custodes freed then imprisoned him and he eventually escaped from the inquisition or something, just no.

[@94EyeEagle]

For the wedding, you probably should have something like an oath of moment 🤣 Cheers for the fantastic content, man 👌

[@seanturner1197]

They are my favorite legion. I like their covert operations and their uncertainty of whether or not they are loyalists or traitors.

[@Ollaniusperrson]

I think John's loop is actually the emperors from childhood and John is ensuring the proper path which is how the emperor checks his foresight of infinite paths

[@MattKmit]

Try this: Abbadon makes a tactical rush for Terra to beat the loyalists/Emperor. Then Alpharius/Omegon activate the legionairies under the palace to help STOP CHAOS as the rest of loyal Alpha Legionairies move in as well!~!

[@AxylsAngel]

In the og Art omnibus for the Horus heresy there is a single image of daemon primarch Alpharius

[@shaneporter4958]

More info please 🙏

[@AxylsAngel]

@@shaneporter4958 in Part 2 of the og art books in the aftermath section pg406 there is a single image of a daemonic figure and the caption of the image is Alpharius - John Blanche and even in the index for the artwork, he seems to be almost draconic daemon wings snake like tendrils either from his back or wings, and his spear has turned into a almost khoplesh style blade like Magnus' with a scythe as a pommel similar to mortarion I know it sounds bonkers I thought I was crazy being the only one who seems to know about it

[@criticalcommenter]

​@@AxylsAngelcould it not just be a random alpha legion guy?

[@AxylsAngel]

@@criticalcommenter it could be but both the passage before and after are covering what happened to the Primarchs in a vague sense " all of them faded into history" and the index section for the Primarchs that's the only page for Alpharius so while it could be some alpha legion marine the book is calling it Alpharius

[@imeshjasondon8987]

Cypher is Corswain, believe me, I was on a call with him yesterday, we were playing dead by daylight. He played the knight and kept yelling " for the lion". He told me he was trolling everyone being cypher

[@crazymasta40]

0:56 An hour long sandman video dropped in the middle of my shift? Say it isnt so😂

[@bored_boar]

Not me watching an hour long sandman video during a work meeting...

[@sotheartist9434]

I always listen at work 😂 it’s essential

[@AxolotlInMC]

Your marital vow: "I accept these burdens, as the Imperium creeds."

[@AdeptusMagicus]

While I was listening to your explanation of events, I started wondering if an Alpha Legion codex eventually existed, how awesome it would be if it had both Space Marine AND Chaos Space Marine tabletop choices.

[@Qver-gd9bg]

The Alpha Legion is basically an entire legion of Fallen. It’s the only traitor legion that one could really call ‘renegade’ as a whole rather then being a full on chaos legion (overall, there are still many Alpha Legion chaos marines just like there are many fallen chaos space marines)

[@mumblingmercian3386]

Sandman not mentioning the King in Yellow for one video. Challenge: Impossible. Great vid as always, my favourite Legion just got more interesting.

[@klaykid117]

Don't forget they're Bad guys from Dawn Of War 1 and they use Daemons not all are that loyal. That being said Alpha Legion are my favorite "traitor" Legion. They're great because you can run primaris and other SM models without much lore issue because you can say your opponent caught them mid-disguising

[@criticalcommenter]

Not very alpha legion to get caught

[@sylph4252]

50:54 Big E cut off a part of his soul in the Inevitable City, which then became the City of Dust. Logically, that part of his soul would be easier to fetch from the same place it was cut off at

[@CanuteDharma]

Could they have even infiltrated or manipulated the Custodes to imprison him there as 'subject XI'? All nice and safely tucked away with no chance of anyone uncovering who he is

[@saltyshackles5227]

Malcador and Big E mentored Alpharius, no way he thought he could sway Rogal Dorn 😂 Definitely Omegon died on Pluto.

[@whysogrim697]

Sandman you being the least bad option makes you the best man for the job congratulations

[@snowbjorne]

Let him name the tables!

[@Vroomerz]

For your wedding, you need to wear a purity seal on the lapel of your suit/coat/shirt/tux. And end your vows with, "by your word."

[@oceandark3044]

I like the idea of Magnus the Red falling to and serving Tzeench, and Tzeench really wanting the damn Alpha Legion, but they were too wily. And that Alpharius is still playing some long con that ends up serving humanity, just not the way everyone expects it to.

[@Judiciar_Geo]

Amazing stream brother. I always appreciate a look inside the headspace of a lore master like yourself. Thank you!

[@Varis78]

I got a small taste of lore from a few youtube channels, but the first book I read was Horus Rising about 2 years ago. Immediately hooked, and been reading various 30k and 40k novels since then. Eisenhorn was the first 40k book I read, and I devoured the entire series of those as fast as possible after. Can’t wait for the next Bequin novel.

[@webegamingYolo]

Warhammer wedding table names after angels is gold

[@daweimer71]

My very first literary introduction to Warhammer 40k was the Space Wolf Omnibus I and II. With a friend named Google, I did just fine! This was back in 2012. lol.

[@brownehawk7744]

Those were great books.

[@michaelahord9142]

Whatever Dorn is up to, we know he's doing it single handed.

[@NateDiggitty]

Wedding table is The Lions table, every other table is named after each captain. The kids table is Cypher

[@tomtricity]

So if we assume that Alpharius and Omegon switch places when Horus "finds" him and they never switch back wouldn't that mean Dorn killed Omegon and Alpharius sensed it? I just can't see GW even with some of its wretchedly bad writing at times not setting this up better. Alpharius is a genius with schemes within schemes. He's going to get killed trying to talk the most loyal son that is predictable into changing sides? I guess it could be more wretchedly bad writing... but I think there's a long game story-line coming in a future book especially with Primarchs showing up.

[@loganmeyer9200]

I'm of the opinion that Omegon was indeed the one killed on Pluto not Alpharius. Dorn supposedly was able to tell who Alpharius was apart from the marines, but since Omegon is 100% identica, it'ss possible Dorn never knew the twin existed and just assumed that it was Alpharius. Could be an interesting way to bring back Alpharius and not mess up the lore too much

[@billybob-zk9nm]

⁠@@loganmeyer9200same to both of you. Plus it was stated that og-Alpharius actually knew and understood dorn as a person, and the way Pluto Alpharius(real omegon) approached dorn was just to stupid or lacking to me to be alpharius

[@doombybbr]

Remember the book starts with "I am alpharius, this is a lie" Literally ALL the lore on the Alpha legion is unreliable

[@tomtricity]

@@doombybbrVery true. Which is why Alpharius IS really Cypher! (insert evil laugh)

[@billybob-zk9nm]

@@doombybbr i felt like the way he states “I am Alpharius, this is a lie” always felt more so that he adopted the role of Omegon, and him saying that line is instead in reference to the lie of his persona due to losing his other half on pluto

[@onimeno121]

- Do you have any last words before your sentence Is carried out? - "Yeah, Teddy, bear 🧸" Westley Snipes.

[@Player_not_found]

The Alpha Legion symbol has three heads because there's actually a third brother. If you look at the Alpha Legion splash page in HH3:Extermination (somewhere around page 95?) it shows 3 skulls, each with a lowercase greek letter on its forewead: Alpha (Alpharius), Omega (Omegon) and Sigma (Sigmar?)

[@SenorScholls22]

John told ingo if he moved slow enough he could escape

[@willis32]

Gargant cake at the wedding!

[@wunderwaffle2564]

SANDMAN GIVING US ALPHA LEGION CONTENT?! GOD BLESS!!!

[@wolf-xf6hf]

Loyalist 30k alpha legion has always been one of my favorite theories. I plan on painting my first army as custodes with alpha legion colors as a little funny idea of what if the alpha legionnaires escaped stasis and stole custodes armor since alpha legion are bigger than the average space marine this could theoretically work

[@SlyMastaC]

Buddy's wedding had imperial seals instead of boutineers for the groom and groomsmen... looked really good

[@jddj6747]

For starting out with books is 15 hours. It's the quintessential guard book, "astra mili-what now? You're in the guard son, you're gonna die!"

[@jeffreydrake5851]

Congratulations on the engagement, I don’t know if you should suggest a red handprint on her white dress though. lol best wishes.

[@mainwaringjohn]

Lol imagine your fiancées face if the vicar was dressed as a space Marine chaplain 😂😂🎉

[@gaijin8014]

32:04 "Hideo Kojima, I don't know who he is......" This made me laugh as I heard 100,000 weaboo's scream in pain.

[@mr.fghjkl4871]

For all we know this entire video was created by Alpharius to feed us more false info about Alpharius to help the imperium!

[@criticalcommenter]

It's certainly feeding false info. Only a few minutes in and already quite a few mistakes

[@mr.fghjkl4871]

@@criticalcommenterfrom all the new releases to the story and lore, I will always trust the Alpha legion is playing several games at once. Even if they aren’t the idea they are is powerful in this universe.

[@joseg.6187]

Live streams are awesome. No change! Also Ciaphas Cain I think are the best intro. Inquisition series a bit convoluted. Crime series is quite good but doesn't really introduce big lore.

[@LeeFreedom]

What you think about the old Dawn of War videogame as a starting point into 40k? That what got me into 40k years ago.

[@chrisrambo8307]

Lollll the shit where a custodes just on break finding fuckin alpharius in a freezer in the Basement 😂

[@The0Stroy]

Ekhm - Alpha(P)ri(m)us

[@lewishorsman2219]

Alpha Legion Battle Barge: “What’s for dinner?” “Ssshhh! Never ask that! The chef starts crying.” “Why does he start crying?” “Because he gets all the ingredients he needs and spends the next several hours crying because the initiates keep hiding his cookbooks”

[@kakon16]

I started in Lord Of The Night and then went into Guant's Ghosts, mid way into those I jumped into Ravenor

[@deanlawlor963]

It would also be cool if the custodes knew that some were loyal and allowed them to conduct certain operations

[@soush2750]

Get some kids or dwarves to dress up as watchers in the dark to carry the bridal gown train down the aisle

[@peterga3658]

back here again listening for those details i missed the first time

[@Yossarian_Lives73]

Cake Topper; Sanguinous and a penitent Sister of Silence in Power Armour? If you get push back mention your love of Deathguard, no one wants a plague lord on their wedding cake?

[@Devillin]

Your wedding should be officiated by Alpharius.

[@PickBit]

Actae sounds very much like the Karla the Grey Witch from record of Lodoss war. A force of neutrality whose only goal is to maintain balance among all forces to avoid concentration of power leading to one of the sides decisively prevailing

[@matt.985]

I’m not into the game or anything else but I love the lore and the way you talk through it and your knowledge is really engaging. Keep up the good work

[@SandmanofTerra]

Welcome aboard! Here's my beginners video if youre interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpvLeKGNrauXnKcsi=n1Y6PJmOFfEcrlRE

[@matt.985]

@@SandmanofTerra thank you

[@deanmcintyre4334]

I am alpharius!

[@joluoto]

This is a lie. I am Alpharius

[@grillbottoms]

@@joluotothat can’t be. I am alpharius!

[@jeremyhess7977]

These lies are true. You are all Alpharius. I know this to be so. For I am Alpharius as well.

[@unbreakablelag]

The third head of the hydra is when the twins souls reunite into one.

[@NecroJayJay]

I hope fulgrim doesn’t find his clone, I can picture a loyalist primarch saying go and f yourself. Then fulgrim will be like hmmmmmmmmm hold my beer. Trazyn!!! 😂

[@jellydamgood]

Brothers of the snake will teach you everything, even with no prior knowledge outside of mainstream memes.

[@donchan3182]

Get wedding caricature artists but have them draw guests in Warhammer theme.

[@danhat606]

Honestly always a pleasure!

[@michaelo5665]

I think the novella 15 hours really introduces the true level of grimdark. The guardsmans pride at making it to 15 hours had me crying manly tears. pkus its a quick albeit traumatizing read.

[@weediestbroom]

Honestly the best place to start with lore, as an absolute beginner, would be one of the big rule books, not for the rules but they have thr main bits of story for the whole setting and each faction.

[@weediestbroom]

You don't even need the most current edition. The main lore hasn't changed so you could pick up a copy of 4th ed and it would still be accurate

[@ryanhannapel1830]

4:45 How is Obergon? Lol 😂

[@jdlr369]

I would be cool to see the Alpha legion come back in the end and save the imperium. Or maybe be secretly working with Constantine Valdor behind the scenes to save it as part of the Emperor’s plan?

[@rextascy]

Idea: Valdor wakes them up and has them join his new Legion

[@varunnathamuni5540]

I remember reading Wolf King when the Wolves run from the Alpha Legion in the Alaxxes Nebula, and let me tell you something, it was actually a really good read.Any Alpha Legion/ Space Wolf fan should definitely read it.

[@ragnarshadow]

Random theory... 3 brothers Alpha Omega and Beta. 2 lost legions 1 lost 1 purged referring to never found primarch and an already chaos primarch, so omega and beta took their places training both legions to be alpha and then folding them into ultra marines so the ultramarines are 2/3 alpha. when alpha fought dorn alpha actually won and replaced dorn. when emp was done fighting horus dorn/alpha replaced the emp's body with omega to make omega into a god. and eventually they took out guilliman and put beta in his place, between the 3 the alpha legion in charge of almost all of humanity and even has assets manipulating things within chaos legions.

[@trajanfidelis1532]

Hydra Dominatus

[@davidn381]

Great vid again!

[@VespasianOfTheThird]

I think a secret AL vs. AL war in unseen places on terra or something like that could be a nice plot in 40k with bigger implications for the future like some gathering storm plots were.

[@tjorgensen8760]

Remember when Alpharius gave Horus the gene tech stolen from the raven guard in private he says now we are truly legion so is that clones of Alpharius and Omegan with minor shards of their soles

[@andreajankovic9929]

Hideo Kojima is respectable creator/designer/writer of video games, such as death stranding, metal gear, snatcher

[@redlegpainting4022]

In 2003 I was familiar with 40K but hadn’t read any novels, I read Storm of Iron when I was deployed to Iraq the first time. To this day I still collect imperial fists and have owned, painted and played dozens of armies in that time.

[@nikoazure5235]

Am a fan of the idea Ingo might be Deathrow

[@briharrisWarhmmer40kfan]

Missed it again Jeneta Croles Mars pattern BIRTH CONTROL DEVICE DAMN IT!!!!!!?

[@user-xd2jn3ee9b]

Alpha legion is my favorite legion. They are like space Andy Kaufman, you never know whether to take them seriously.

[@MiddleAgedGuy73]

I love all the King in Yellow discussions, it's fascinating.

[@celdur4635]

The reason demon primarchs lose is also because they take bigger risks. They know they'll just be back

[@tban4122]

Ingo is now known as Cypher

[@traaaaan]

Keep the table # s as 1,2,3,etc and each table is themed after the corresponding legion.

[@Scott90314]

For me nowadays I generally refer to the twins as first and last. In my personal headcanon and understanding is everything we thought of Alpharius in the old lore is flipped. For example serpent beneath tells us Omegon has the unmarked power armor and HOH tells us the reverse is true. The whole third head concept to me has always meant their legion is fairly autonomous as a whole and able to make demi primarchs. I view the status as last found sacrificed himself to allow the first found to slip back into anonymity. It's clear to me both twins are loyal and maybe at times they don't see eye to eye giving some of the fans to see it as split allegiance.

[@LoneRising]

I love the idea of loyalist 20th astartes. I think the imperium would kill them, though, and would consider it equivalent to allowing Cawl to recreate loyalist legions of the other fallen legions.

[@matthiasoc7141]

Hoooooly.... I just noticed the Legionnaire on the cover of Legion has a Deathwatch arm. *Oh god, what does this MEAN!?*