Konstantin Kisin | What makes the West great

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What happens when you ship a bunch of criminals to a barren country filled with venomous creatures? A country Konstantin Kisin thinks is doing a few things right, but also has a lot at stake.
Konstantin Kisin is a British-Russian comedian, co-host of the massively popular Triggernometry Podcast and author of An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West. In his recent talk in Sydney for the Centre for Independent Studies, he reflects on his first time in Australia and asks what makes Western countries like Australia so successful.
How did the West come to dominate the world?
What does government by consent mean? Why is freedom of expression good? Do we take private property for granted?
Konstantin warns that we need to better understand the ideas that make our countries great, lest we risk becoming cargo cults - simply going through the motions of what made us successful.
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[@CISAus]

Be sure to watch the Q&A from this event here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWfLhYZth66mZ8U

[@debbielondon1809]

Konstantin's arguments get sharper and sharper. A true teacher.

[@MultiToni1956]

I LOVE THIS BRILLIANT MAN ❤

[@arlettedsouza7326]

Showers of wisdom, truth with integrity, force of courage and fervour of intelligence, levels of transformation, eye openers and equipires for the generation to carry forth. Thank you Konstantin.

[@garyrichardson2435]

konstantin, a clear and concise speaker. We could do with more like him in our mainstream media!

[@revwpitt2347]

You see very little of Konstantin on mainstream media ,,,,,because he makes so much sense.

[@markellis796]

You do in the UK, he's been on Question time, and has also appeared on the BBC news, ITV, GBnews and even Channel 4.

[@serpentines6356]

​@@markellis796 Oh, that's good to know. No one I know, knows who he is, or Douglas Murray, or Kathleen Stock, or Posie Parker, etc. I am surrounded by people who very lefty, or not as interested in all these issues. Very frustrating.

[@simanothername3035]

The BBC is supposed to be impartial or give a balanced argument. Konstantin is brought in to stand against the weaponized empathy of the woke and the panel of bobble heads supporting them, on almost any topic. Reason and logic tend to make for great clips, and he is very good at reminding people they don't have a monopoly on truth and virtue.

[@jamesportrais3946]

Pure logic, I love Konstantin - my S/E Asian wife (mid 50's) squinted at him and asked: "Why does he look like that?" "Russian Jew" "Oh" then sauntered off - I thought I might need to flesh it out a little, but apparently not; that was sufficient to understand why I'm blonde-haired & steel eyed yet he speaking alarmingly like me looks so differing. Bravo dear wife, a simplistic view of racial traits wins out. If anyone hasn't visited Triggernometry, it's about time you did; funny f*cksters Konstantin & Francis do genuine diligence with great guests. Bravo KK!!

[@carolynbrightfield8911]

​@serpentines6356 yes, similar. Surrounded by those who will not tolerate me saying anything that is against the current woke trend. Known them over ten years, but I must chant the mantra (I'm in local acapella choirs, one I no longer attend because of the songs). Add Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying (scientists) to the list. Benjamin A Boyce (interviwer), Peter Boghossian, Heather Pluckrose & James Lindsay (philosophers & thinkers).

[@robertmcavoy2705]

Often it takes an outsider (in this case, a Russian emigre to Great Britain) to observe what too many in the West take for granted. His commentary strikes a strong cord with truth.

[@serpentines6356]

Lee van Fleet, and some N Koreans who escaped are being vocal about what's going on.

[@HannaMaman]

i love Konstantin

[@eutectoid1]

Hear hear! Good to hear some sanity for a change!

[@krisrap3828]

There are four people I love listening to: Konstantin Kisin, Douglas Murray, Ben Shapiro and Venkat Ramaswamy. Their diction, their vocabulary, their eloquence - all without any notes or teleprompter - is a pleasure to behold. So glad to live in an age where we can watch their videos on YT. Do I agree with them 100%? No. No one is perfect. But I agree with them 95% of the time because they make sense. How refreshing compared to other hacks who throw around words like "genocide", "generational trauma", "racism", "equity", "hate speech", etc. with not a single logical thought supporting those academic-sounding phrases.

[@ajs41]

And English isn't even Konstantin's first language, and he didn't speak it at all until he was 12.

[@EpikAqua1]

I agree with you except with regard to Ben Shapiro, I think he uses his fast-paced talking style and obviously extremely good English to mask his sometimes not so good arguments.

[@serpentines6356]

​@@EpikAqua1 I don't. I think that's just the way he talks. Just his personality.

[@Comithen]

So you like zionist shils?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

​@@serpentines6356😂😂😂

[@lynnedwards1727]

Love the clarity of thought, delivery and the encapsulated messages. Thank you, CIS and Mr Kisin.

[@jeanbrown8295]

A great speaker

[@steveascension9626]

Konstantin is an advocate of reason and free speech. He's a bloody good man with a lot of common sense, which appears to be rare these days.

[@ennediend2865]

Let's be proud of our Western cultural heritage❤❤❤💪💪💪

[@serpentines6356]

I am. The good stuff. Well, not so much proud, but appreciative. Proud is something for personal accomplishments in my book. A good little book is the "Rise of Christianity", by Rodney Stark. Gives a basic story of the beginnings of early Christianity into advancement of western civ. I thought it was pretty good anyway.

[@druharper]

Brilliant, Konstantin. Thank you.

[@paulpryde1]

Yet again, very impressed with Constantin and his views and opinions. Well said and presented.

[@keepcreationprocess]

Constantin is good in general. Do you agree ? West vs East vs whatever

[@beastiebear7231]

Because he has lived on both sides of the fence, and he knows the grass is definitely greener one one side to the other

[@keepcreationprocess]

@@beastiebear7231 I live on both sides multiple sides too .

[@serpentines6356]

​@@keepcreationprocess Ok. Whatever that means.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Same 💩 different day. Wokism and these clowns are in a symbiotic relationship. Neither could make an easy buck without the other.

[@unbreakableldorado7723]

Konstantin Kisin is an absolute legend

[@Ozgipsy]

I hope it’s been welcoming for you here Konstantin. 👍

[@RobinAlbertsen]

One of the best talks I've ever heard. Bravo!

[@wellnone9367]

Another excellent speech by Kisin.

[@c.f.sedgwick1885]

Always a pleasure to listen to Mr. Kisin. His common sense thoughts on societal issues are more rare than common in this day and age. We are lucky to have him.

[@mevring]

Great talk. Food for thoughts. ❤

[@joanr3189]

Always food from KK.

[@harrytrue1296]

English common law as a basis for societal rule

[@Mouldhead]

KK deserves honorary IDW membership IMHO

[@niguel4438]

Brilliant as always.

[@tadasblindavicius8889]

*«All my thoughts are turned, first of all, to democratic nations... There would be a measureless disaster if "Russian barbarism" overlaid the culture and democracy of "Liberal world". I believe that the family of democratic nations will be able to act as one... I turn my eyes to a united democratic world.» - Winston Churchill, 21 October 1942, "The hinge of fate"*

[@melvinevans9981]

We need fathers in our homes to be present. We need to discuss, understand, and have the strength and courage to be honourable people and have a voice that can be heard without being silenced for standing up to lies and bs There is a culture with in the system that is causing us as a western civilisation to become weak ,woke and underperformed to become dependent on governments to feed us cloth us house us Strength is whats needed to confront our futures i love what this man represents as a immigrant soeaking on a platform to present truth. Its hard for some delinquents to hear but we must move on and vmbettr our cultural youths who have been told lies by there parents the western world is the leader of the new school

[@osier769]

Not yet watched his Oxford debate, knew of it, but wasn't aware it had attracted that much attention. Glad Konstantin travelled Down Under, I hope it's one of many and for less daunting reasons.

[@nevbarnes1034]

The Oxford address is scalpel-sharp.

[@gerry8072]

Thanks for the reminder. I haven’t seen it yet.

[@386max1]

Must watch

[@coraynbell8991]

Excellent talk from Konstantin!

[@El_Diablo_12]

9:50 make societies that make things that people want 11:00 safety and prosperity 20:00 how capitalism and private property have created wealth

[@jacobaabypetersen7695]

Konstantin is just great.

[@PatrickFerryCoach]

Konsitin does it again!

[@marcusmoonstein242]

Probably the most articulate explanation I've ever heard of why I call myself a traditional liberal. Well done sir!

[@elsenored562]

20:45 "The way you succeed in our society is by creating things and providing things of value to other people ..."

[@normanlazarus1836]

I admire Konstantin’s delivery & explanation but can anyone clarify what we mean when we say “the west”?

[@user-we1un5mx5y]

Great man! Thank you!

[@francescacook6623]

Smashed it!

[@paulhallowes5367]

Uplifting and enlightening

[@tommyrotton9468]

Curious that KK mentioned property and ownership being protected from theft was an aspect which fueled innovation, because in the UK and USA both governments authorities actively no longer ask our police prevent theft and catch criminals, restore stolen items unless you are personally one of the super rich. Have your 7 11 full of shoplifting gangs the police ignore what's going on, the shop closes down. Be a celebrity who have a watch worth a grand stolen from your wrist and you have gangs of plain clothes police seeking to entrap the thieves into stealing a bling watch.

[@view1st]

Heard of the enclosure acts and the highland clearances? That was theft. So much for property rights.

[@TTFN55]

@@view1st - That is why my clan is in the U.S. ...for over 200 years. The Campbells sold us out to the Brits and we haven't forgotten it either!

[@serpentines6356]

​@@TTFN55 Don't know of that history.

[@Schontaylor]

Thank Christ for the CIS ❤

[@The-Mstr-Pook]

Skip to 4:15 that's when Konstatine comes on stage. This video is already too short, without loosing 4min on an introduction.

[@nefaristo]

He's at 4:15

[@agustinhernandez7289]

It’s interesting how we have drummed in, always talk positively to your children, friends, fellow neighbours and love ones. Talk to them about their strengths not weaknesses. Yet, we’re at a point were many westerners perpetually talk about most of the negative matters of western society ⁉️⁉️⁉️… It is not only hypocritical but manipulative rhetoric…

[@haroldwood1394]

It's always good to hear Konstantin. But let's also remember how many Australian companies seemed happy to deskill the nation by having any Australia innovations made overseas wherever labour - virtually slave labour - was dirt cheap. Our culture was demeaned in the process.

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo.

[@user-zy8vk2ip8o]

17:14 oh my!!! i disnt follow that in the movie ... will see it again

[@BaconbuttywithCheese]

Constant K has his finger on the pulse.

[@user-jv4md5iq9n]

Konstantin Kisin is so great!

[@user-qq4xb5dl3w]

Democracy and freedom is for me: to be allowed to say, what I think, and not what I'm supposed to say. That makes a better, a real and effective communicaton. And working together, making my thing good, whatever task I have. And not making slaves in any situation, what ever comes.

[@fayegouverneur1521]

Please come to New Zealand but good luck trying to get in

[@larsglade3304]

Tak!

[@TheWhitehiker]

Starts at c. 4.20.

[@thecomprador]

Comparing law abiding British Hongkongers who are educated, well integrated and embrace British values, to antisemitic Muslim migrants from Sudan, Syria, Iraq - who believe in stoning woman and gays - is absolutely insane!

[@terezagrbin4357]

there is so much corruption here too, we have everything good on paper but in real work bullying, lying and corruption is terrible

[@carolynbrightfield8911]

I suspect its still better than the places he mention, and many other countries. Particularly the ones the refugees and immigrants come from, otherwise why wouldn't they stay there.

[@midian777]

Inventions like Telephone, Planes, Computer, Internet, Cars, X-Ray etc ...

[@JoshWashington]

Democracy is a national decision making process (by way of voting), which prioritises the use of collective social memory, reasoning, and morality in a manner that facilitates continuous improvement for how that nation runs.

[@user-iq7th6rd7s]

❤KK

[@CensoredSheepChannel]

Democracy, free speech, press freedom things that UK is lacking Hail , hail United comunism kingdom , not long till credit scores are here

[@splodge561]

So who has censored you?

[@drwhatson]

​@@splodge561Do you live in a cave?

[@splodge561]

@@drwhatson shhhhhhh

[@splodge561]

Or should I say baaaaaaaa🐑

[@beckinfidelis3916]

23:03 Excellent! Just brilliant. This part, with the Islanders building radio towers out of bamboo and expecting to be able to communicate is sad, though. Marching up and down the landing strips like they'd seen the soldiers do? 😢😢 They didn't understand the complexities of modern Innovation and just copied what they had seen, the parts the understood, which was visual and not more. Anyway, it made me sad thinking about it. I agree 100% with Kisin. It's true that few westerners actually understand "reality", although he didn't use that word. Also pointing out that people aren't trying to leave western countries on rickety boats, but people from other nations do it to come here every day.

[@observer1242]

Glad we have You Tube. He’s standing in that auditorium and look who’s in the audience. He’s bringing coals to Newcastle.

[@johnbadminton5713]

...Umm...KK must be unaware that an American adult audience does not understand Amer exceptionalism? Its the under 40 crowd thats been gaslit.

[@thecanberean]

Ok sure…He’s great. But why don’t we have people like this in Australia? Why do we have to import them from the UK?

[@Muljinn]

Because he’s had the experience of *not* having the things that make our society as good as it is.

[@davidpoole7067]

He's mistaken about freedom from religion being a source of Western greatness. He'd be right if he was talking about Islam, which has stranded it's adherents in the Dark Ages, or Buddhism or Hinduism, which left people treading water without a higher goal. But all the Western values he lauds came directly from Christianity. Don't lie, don't steal, don't murder, restrain yourself sexually--the safety, freedom, and personal property rights are a practical manifestation of "Love your neighbor as yourself." The work ethic, low levels of corruption, and belief that the world should make sense in a scientifically testable way come directly from "Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength." And, the decline in all of those values is exactly following the abandonment of Christianity by the West.

[@JakubFerenc1911]

Marshall McLuhan: all technology and media are externalizations of the primary human technology - language/speech.

[@paladin0654]

20:22 Exactly what the "tyrants" in the "belt way" are doing to Trump.....spot on mate.

[@kegawinek7628]

Western culture works to respect free markets, civil liberties and innovation. Class structures, based in part by merit, and not simply birthright are demonstrably better. This has attracted the most industrious from all over the world and that is why there are lines to get into the club. Yes, corruption, grift, and outright savagery have permeated every single human collection since the first hominid stood up, however, these attributes appear much more comfortable bedfellows of oppression and dogma more prevalent outside the West.

[@John-ls7zh]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@scarba]

Omg he’s picking up an Aussie twang 😂

[@User-vh7cl]

The age of the crowd in the thumbnail is scary

[@draconusspiritus1037]

I'm a bit confused here. In the first 2 and a half minutes I've lost count of how many time he has spoken of some variant of the word LIBERAL as supporting CONSERVATIVE policies. I know that the terms LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE have changed quite a bit in their policies over the last few hundred years. But listening to this leadup I find myself wondering which Century, or even Millennium he is speaking from.

[@albertvalerysmith2380]

A time long past.

[@386max1]

👍👍👍❤

[@f.b.4871]

10:02 lol

[@JakubFerenc1911]

Society = HW (biology, brains, genes) + SW (values) of an individual + [HW (technology, materials) + SW (culture, values, laws for governing interactions of individuals)] + environment + (HW + SW) of governing society interactions with the environment.

[@AO-ib3qp]

🎉

[@gaylandbarney2231]

amazing self deceit

[@albertvalerysmith2380]

He says we live in the garden -- the rest of the world in the jungle. As the dominant civilization begins to decline, the tribunes go to great lengths to proclaim the universal superiority of the dying civilization.

[@user-zy8vk2ip8o]

19:05 gun powder began in India

[@draconusspiritus1037]

There is one reason and one reason only for anyone at any level to immigrate to another Country. That reason is Opportunity. Different people, at different levels, seek different forms of Opportunity. Those who seek LEGAL immigration tend to be seeking the Opportunity to build a better life for themselves and their families. Yes, they COULD build that better life right there in the Nation they were born in. But that tends to involve a lot of risk. It's easier, and safer to just pack up and move than it is to buck the current system. Those who seek ILLEGAL immigration are also seeking opportunity. But the Opportunity they seek is to attain the one thing that no amount of work, or risk, would ever get for them in the Nation they were born. That is a Free Ride. Welfare. A higher standard of living for little or even no effort.

[@achinthmurali5207]

I have never heard anyone in my entire life on Internet, television, or even in Books, who bring up the argument that you’re just a culture warrior. It sounds like one of those made up arguments that you find in foreign posts that you think someone said, but didn’t.

[@maureenbarclay2127]

I love Konstantin. He is right we are better. We have opportunities and freedoms many dont have. So what is the west doing we are capitulating to the barbarians. Many are converting to islam. Which i think proves the west needs religion. I fear for my granddaughters future. I libed through the 70s it was tough but we had hope i dont sense that today. We need brave people like konstantin there has to be a way out of this madness.

[@tadasblindavicius8889]

Who else can explain the complexity of it to the Western people? And Konstantin isn't the "Western bloke" at all.

[@bryanmurray9846]

What are the values that KK asserts separates the West from the rest of the world?

[@user-dl6iz8kf4p]

Freedom of speech

[@bryanmurray9846]

​@user-dl6iz8kf4p What makes countries such as Japan, Bahamas and Haiti not be a part of the West since they all have freedom of speech?

[@AA-yc8yr]

@@bryanmurray9846 They don't. Japan is far less free a society, culturally, and its technological boom post-WWII was largely due to American influence. The Bahamas are a former British colony - look up the relative developmental index and societal organisation in the former colonies. Haiti? I mean, seriously? Freedom of speech is NOT the only separator of the West from the rest of the world - rationality goes hand in hand with it. That is, moving away from ideological indoctrination, be it religious or political. The West is not perfect in that department, but is head and shoulders above virtually anywhere in the world. And has been since the Enlightenment in 16-17c. There's virtually no sign that anywhere else is ready to go through anything like the dawn of reason.

[@drwhatson]

​@bryanmurray9846 Well, Japan inherited it's modern culture from the West and very cleverly by simultaneously retaining their own. The Bahamas was a British colony. Haiti is a voodoo practicing, gangster run s**thole.

[@albertvalerysmith2380]

​@@user-dl6iz8kf4p Freedom of speech has long since disappeared in Western civilization.

[@albertvalerysmith2380]

He is talking about the past. Western civilization long ago stopped allowing people to express themselves freely and guaranteeing private property. Western civilization is about to enter the dustbin of history, along with the Roman Empire.

[@justaguy328]

Christianity. As Christianity wades, all of the things we love about america will fade as well. Only God can save us.

[@dupex2]

Simplistic

[@AA-yc8yr]

Ocam's Razor says you lose.

[@albertvalerysmith2380]

Indeed. As simplistic as a fairy tale told to children. It says we live in the garden, the rest of the world in the jungle. When the dominant civilization begins to decline, the tribunes do all they can to proclaim the universal superiority of the dying civilization.

[@ValidatingUsername]

Sounds like a Ted talk organization that won’t be tainted 😂

[@l.w.paradis2108]

This business about "victim" thinking is so odd. It sounds like one of those "think positive" mantras that are the staple of training in sales techniques. The actual classics of the West, like Plato or the Bible, always hold the victim of injustice as the moral superior of the perpetrator of injustice. In Gorgias, Socrates says being the perpetrator is far worse than being the victim, even though the victim suffers more pain -- because the perpetrator exceeds everyone in evil. The Book of Job agrees. Toni Morrison always said she was taught at an early age that she was the moral superior of anyone who discriminated against her. She never flinched. Her father taught her that. If you worry about not being a "victim," you're still thinking about it.

[@annasilverman7984]

Why, after having arrived illegally, most of those people almost immediately after getting financial support, and sometimes even deciding to work in order to get some more money, they almost immediately start working their butts off to create the same hell they were getting the hell out from?

[@aravinddnivara803]

If even 25% of students on American colleges : universities have the patience and IQ to understand what Konstantin tried to explain here, there will be less wokeism and more productive work that helps make the world better.

[@laika5757]

KK is Fantastic..👍

[@mick6721]

Who has told our teachers to teach students the rubbish they spout.

[@JuanCarlosAbz]

The spaniard empire in America had non-european, native, local rulers and vice-kings. Spain conquered, Britain colonized.

[@AA-yc8yr]

Erm, British colonies were significantly less authoritarian and in fact included locals into power structures. Might do you some good to look up e.g., the British Raj in India. Plus, do compare the relative state of societies and economies of former British colonies and the Spanish ones - that should tell you all there is to know about who did what, and what its effect was.

[@rustemsadvakassov1787]

as a person who likes changing gender every morning i confirm everything he's saying... in the west it is way easier than and fun ahahha

[@af5433]

Yeah Ottoman Empire was very "woke" 😂!

[@phoebusapollo4677]

Words, words, words…..

[@drwhatson]

@phoebusapollo4677 Meaning what exactly?

[@phoebusapollo4677]

@@drwhatson boring crap!

[@RochadeArruda88]

Oh yeah! Putin invaded Ukraine because he thought it was easy! It had nothing to do with NATO and the CIA... This guy is a joker!

[@bryanmurray9846]

Excellent point.

[@chrisfrancis6101]

Sure the hell isnt the democratic party!!!! Lol

[@janaiello722]

Pornography books for kids you meant right.

[@VIKINGFLYING]

In an open free society the school boards would have asked the parents if they agreed that pornographic books should be in the school library. The school boards are run by communist activists that want to ruin the kids. Hence they snuck in the books. Parents have now started to take over the school boards they should never have abandoned.. They can then quality assure the libraries again. In a free society an adult can then buy these books as they please. They can also outright ban them or ban some of them. The problem is that people are busy and assumed that the school boards would be full of people that were interested in the best for the kids, not sociopaths. Hence we are slowly self correcting to a system that vets the quality of schools in general.

[@willyh.r.1216]

Biased.

[@tomigrgicevic]

Bla, bla, bla, bla...

[@drwhatson]

@tomigrgevic How the Left communicate.

[@MegaAshabasha]

When he said he'd do anything for money, I never thought he'd be fishing for pension fund money quite so desperately, like he's a government actor...

[@leslie-annmills-gomez8763]

Poor him, the fool

[@user-dl6iz8kf4p]

What is your point?

[@hcspero]

What. Makes the west great? Others countries people.

[@drwhatson]

@hcspero What does that even mean?

[@hcspero]

@@drwhatson colonialism

[@drwhatson]

@@hcspero British Inventions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epS9goZqgaeonc0si=pOutUSaylXEO6e41