The Russian Psyche | Konstantin Kisin

John is joined by Konstantin Kisin, himself Russian by descent, for a conversation about the Russian mindset, popular support for President Putin, the Western response to and coverage of the conflict in Ukraine, Western resilience, the role of satire in public discourse, and much more.
Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British comedian, podcaster, writer and social commentator. He made international headlines in 2018 by refusing to sign a university “behavioural agreement form” which banned jokes about religion, atheism and insisted that all humour must be “respectful and kind”.
Konstantin is a regular contributor to BBC, ITV and TalkRadio. Frequently described as an "objective voice from the centre of the political spectrum", he regularly writes for a wide range of publications, including the Telegraph, Spectator and Quillette. He is also the creator and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry KZbin show where 2 comics interview economists, political experts, journalists and social commentators about interesting, controversial and challenging subjects.
Konstantin's first book, 'An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West', will be released on July 14th 2022, and can be pre-ordered here: www.amazon.co.uk/Immigrants-L...
John first interviewed Konstantin in 2019. Their pre-covid interview can be found here: • Free Speech, Comedy, a...
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00:00 Intro
00:53 Introducing Konstantin Kisin
1:59 How should we understand your homeland, Russia?
3:13 What is a 'gulag'?
6:20 The Russian sense of humour & culture
8:08 Why does Putin enjoy such support in Russia?
14:07 Why hasn't democracy worked in Russia?
20:30 Mainstream coverage of the Ukraine conflict
27:02 The Achilles heel of autocracies
31:16 The depths of Western foundations
36:50 The Western reaction to Russian aggression
40:40 On slavery & ethnic tensions
45:56 On the response to Covid-19
52:08 The power of comedy and satire
55:48 John Anderson as a target of satire
57:19 The 'age of religion'
1:01:27 Replacing conflict with conversation
1:05:11 Concluding remarks
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[@onlylexus]

I am a man of 68 years of age, I have read an awful lot and taken in knowledge and information all my life, all in an effort to try and make a difference to the world and to try and understand it, I consider myself as having a reasonable amount of wisdom. However, I have to say that the remarkable Konstantin Kisin has arrived at where I am now, but he seems to have got there many years before me and at such a young age too, I find this totally gob smacking! He is so very informed and erudite and intelligent and reasoned. There is not one thing he said in this great interview that I did not find myself agreeing with. Kisin is the very epitome and a prime example of wisdom far beyond his lived years. He is one who could help society in the West to be on guard and to give it aims that we should aspire to improve. I find that I love the man! Bravo!

[@tomhermens7698]

Not a stooge?

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Well said, sir. I feel the same way myself.

[@onlylexus]

@@tomhermens7698 oh I’m definitely a stooge. I was put up to making a post like I have here by Constantine himself 🤪

[@michaelmelamed9103]

What difference TO the world have you made

[@onlylexus]

@@michaelmelamed9103 I invented the car seat belt and my mother was a nun.

[@zahariachirica5466]

I am a 64 yo Romanian who lived through the communism regime to the end in '89. Incredible true all that Konstantin said. Absolutely.

[@ludmilaivanova1603]

I am 70, I spent equal times of my adult life in the Soviet Union and in the west. For sure, my life in the Soviet Union was the best. it is not because I did not find my place in the western society-quite the opposite-I had a good paid job, found new friends, was and still am active . After thew three years on nonsense and tyranny by the government , we see where the west goes-dictatorship. There is no point to talk about socialists countries as dictatorial.

[@xmindk]

​@@ludmilaivanova1603 you started to believe in your lies!Sad

[@ludmilaivanova1603]

@@xmindk everyone can have an opinion, you too.

[@johanswede8200]

​@@ludmilaivanova1603There are facts. You don't care about the facts.

[@ludmilaivanova1603]

@@johanswede8200 quite opposite. But one can find facts supporting one's views, here is the problem)

[@oliveoil7642]

My grandparents got out of Hungary during the Great Depression and emigrated to Canada for a better life. Many loved ones were left behind who suffered first under Nazi occupation and then decades of Soviet tyranny and occupation. Konstantin speaks the truth.

[@ElenaKozyreva]

What was the tyranny?

[@whitelilycalla]

​@ElenaKozyreva interestingly enough, I had the same question as you did. I wonder where is the proof of that "tyranny" 😉

[@olgaltey3278]

Canada accepted many Nazi colloborators, they also suffer from tyranny And it is does not matter🤔 that they fully on participated in the Holocaust

[@Alipotamus]

The Gulag Archipelago was one of the books that taught me of the profound dangers and patterns of totalitarianism regimes. I am a 74 year old Californian. I have felt like a lone voice for most of my life. I don’t understand why so few seem to care about what is going on in this world. I’m afraid we will not recover. Heartbreaking. I taught my 6 children and I believe they are doing their best to teach their children our values. Freedom is a constant fight or you lose it.

[@ludmilaivanova1603]

it is interesting that the western people see dictatorship only abroad. Do not you see it in the the west? Especially in the last three years? democracy disappeared from so called democaratic countries like Canada, Germany, NZ, Australia? can we say what we we are free to express our opinions? No, you can lose your job and even go to jail. For the peaceful protest people go to jail, for the supporting protesters we can get our bank accounts frozen. Try to say something against the current agenda....

[@user-dr3oc9nl9g]

I'm a 70-year-old Russian. The same here. In Russia and in my mind. I agree with you as you write "Freedom is a constant fight or you lose it." Either one goes up or slides down - as an individual or as a nation. Or for that matter as humanity. Which consists of individuals. So as some paraphrase Bob Dylan's song The Answer Is Blowing in the Wind, "the answer, my friend, is in the hearts of men." And as Pascal put it, "The heart has its reasons of which reason knows nothing."

[@AnnStoddard]

One of Americas founding fathers said: “the price of freedom is eternal vigilance”. We live in a time of immence distractions from that vigilance and have taken freedom for granted. Now we are entering end times where truth has no common reference point to the post modernist religion.

[@andreeaalexandru7811]

I can't imagine how different you must have felt in so many discussions with people in your life, as someone who read all of the Gulag archipelago and lives in California. I just hope it is somewhere in the countryside.

[@user-qp8uj1lc3j]

He was a CIA asset with a mission and you fell for it! Dumba$$ !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@grahamlyons8522]

"He (Solzenitsen) was in the Gulag for ten years; I was at a British boarding school. That's our only similarity."

[@carolinenorman6141]

I grew up under Catholicism in the 1950s I still feel a bit oppressed fortunately I managed to have a spiritual life anyway Truth and reason so important

[@jeannettejordan7104]

Thanks for introducing me to such an interesting guest. We Americans should be listening to more people like him.

[@HATAIIIKA]

I subscribed to his KZbin channel and want my friends to know about him!

[@niarlatotepbasset]

You already have Biden, Clintons, McCain and similar to Kisin.

[@theeltea]

Actually, no. You should not. He isn't Russian by any stretch of the imagination

[@xmfclick]

​@@theeltea:: What has being or not being Russian got to do with it? The OP was just being grateful for discovering KK, who's an intelligent and interesting person. He was about 12 when his family sent him to England, so his memory of Russia won't be all that strong, but he seems to be close to his grandmother, he has relatives in Ukraine (as does his wife), and so he keeps up the ties.

[@HansMartinHammer]

This is one of the finest conversations between two respectful individuals I've ever heard.

[@eddybrevet6816]

Welp, that said a lot, now I understand things better, destabilized the country to such an extent, left a bitter impression,

[@GRasputin91]

"People in Russia are not sitting around doing identity politics" MY MAN. He gets it.

[@carlwithak9856]

Dave chappelle said it first. "Everyone in America is racist, and everyone in China... is chinese" 😂

[@kenashcom7580]

They aren't? Isn't the Russian dictator scapegoating homosexuals, and Isn't that a form of identity politics?

[@Mr.Monta77]

I’m very surprised that is a new perspective for you. Isn’t that obvious?

[@AlbionTVLondon]

Everything he says is plagiarism. How do you like his "The Russians are coming"? The only thing we can see here is how UK brain-washes kids in boarding schools on subjects related to Russia. His views are classic British propaganda which you can find in classic literature dated before Soviet Union's existence.

[@robinhood5935]

How can Kisin know what people in Russia are doing if he left Russia when he was 11. And how can an ethnic Jew judge the Russian psyche? I bet he doesn't understand his own one.

[@robertlambden648]

I have a Russian wife who experienced the chaos of the 90's. Her mother saved for 16 years to provide some help for her at University. After the rouble crashed they were able to buy 1 KG of sausages with it.

[@ludmilaivanova1603]

True, I remember that.

[@sherrybielma1934]

So sad...

[@davidames1746]

Was she able to buy vegetarian sausages? Generally sausage contains salt and nitrates.

[@monaliza3334]

Now it's other way around. Lots of poor people in the West, and the Russians are thriving....

[@eastafricanist9156]

😢 sad

[@deemorris9611]

An elegant conversation which was a pleasure to listen to. Intelligent, insightful, robust, courteous. Thank you gentlemen.

[@zeldagoblin]

Well said...I imagine this comment being said by the person in your profile. Made me laugh 😁😁😁

[@deemorris9611]

@@zeldagoblin 😂😂😂

[@user-qp8uj1lc3j]

You must like drinking coolaid because what he said was pure Western propaganda! Toy must live going brainwashed! How many boosters did you have then? Still waiving the Ukrainian flag, sheep?

[@etesha]

What a magnificent interview! Thank you to the host and the guest. Intelligent, honest and insightful. Absolutely brilliant! this should go viral....

[@Redheadedlady55]

~Agree with you. While sitting in the US...enjoying a cup of tea & praying for every country that we can all wake up to what is happening...our gov. Is helping all illegals with free credit card & free health care....now we Americans can cross the boarder & return here & maybe get this HELP. We have to pay taxes for each person coming inside our boarders illegally. ~Now really...something will have to change but the question is what & when.

[@Son_of_Burebista]

This should be played on all mainstream TV channels around the world. Particularly what we call, Western World.

[@Thorspitfire]

Konstantin is Great. I am Polish and our history was always combined with Russia- mostly in negative way. Poles see Russia and Ukraine exactly in the way Konstantin is describing. Let me add that it is brilliant that he is seeing also negative parts of wokeness, extreme feminism, etc. as a real danger.

[@EdDnB]

I’m British.. I have Polish ancestry as my grandparents were Polish through my mother.. I feel closer to my European brothers and sisters even traveling further east than I do Americans!!!! There something else, so I can understand this man a lot with what he says

[@ievgenmajor3301]

why you put = between ruzzia and Ukraine????? It is totally different countries!

[@yuliyakuzina7689]

Well shame you see us this way

[@yuliyakuzina7689]

@@ievgenmajor3301lol triggered much over a total truth

[@Thorspitfire]

@@yuliyakuzina7689 This is not only my view, generally that is what Polish people experienced since few centuries. My family and family's friends also suffered from Russians. Probably you have been brainwashed.

[@user-zz1cl4vn9r]

John Anderson makes me feel proud to be an Australian 🇦🇺. I'm also a big Triggernometry fan - thank you, gentlemen, for such an insightful and important discussion.

[@justinw2232]

John is a fantastic interviewer 👍🏻

[@lydiajager7944]

@@justinw2232 on m on kGF

[@mikegray8776]

When you look what a lash-up most active politicians are making of both domestic and international politics all over the Anglo-sphere and beyond, John Anderson is an absolute breath of fresh air. [ As an aside, so is Tony Abbott just now - It seems that Australia is the place to go for sane ex-politicians. Such a shame that in the UK and US most of the people in high-level politics are untrustworthy self-seeking career lawyers !] I suspect from John's point of view that this is a very good time to be OUT of active politics - and there's also every chance that he could prove a more effective agent for change - and the return of sanity - now that he is free of any party-line constraints. Thank you John & Konstantin!

[@AH-wr1ir]

I'm from the UK and John Anderson makes me proud of Australia. 😀

[@lasttango7522]

@@AH-wr1ir Same here. What a brilliant interview. Konstantin has great insight regarding our culture. I feel so honnoured that he talks about preserving the West. And describes himself as ' one of us'. Wish he was our local MP. All my town wpuld vote for him.

[@ianbarnes6120]

What a wise man. We need to hear from more like him..

[@niarlatotepbasset]

Okay, WEF nazi

[@oliveoil7642]

John’s definition of Democracy was what I grew up with in Canada but since Covid under Trudeau’s dictatorship we’ve witnessed a large decline in Democracy! Is it better than what my great grandparents experienced under Soviet occupation? Yes, but we can loose it if not vigilant and strong!

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Vote him out.

[@oliveoil7642]

@@rodgerhempfing2921 We have tried but Singh supported him. More need to wake up!

[@karanaman68]

Two well versed, articulate individuals who are intelligent and respectful of each other. Bravo

[@viktortunic]

"The upcoming fatherhood is forcing me to have an optimistic view which is extremely unnatural to me both as an individual and as a Russian." - favourite quote of the interview.

[@user-qp8uj1lc3j]

He is NOT Russian! He's Jewish and his dad was a corrupt government official who worked for traitor Eltzin. That's how they emigrated to England - wuthnthe money STOLEN from Russia!! A LOT of money! Abd Kisin us currently working for MI5 he is an asset and a disinformation agent!

[@krasavam1625]

Koststantin forgot to add that from 1992-1996 mafia and I mean mafia was terrorizing Russian population, and population in every former USSR republic that became independent country after USSR collapsed, and ONLY after Putin became president he stopped this madness

[@bmc868]

Your kids will have hardest life than you. Believe me.

[@viktortunic]

@@bmc868 I lived in Serbia (then Jugoslavia) during the 1990ies sanctions, civil war, the regime of Milosevic and ultimately in 2000 nato bombing of Serbia. I fckn hope not.

[@HNH421]

@@krasavam1625 Putin became the mafia was terrorizing Russian

[@lorrieprothero2175]

Why is it so refreshing and relaxing to listen to intellectuals speak to eachother?

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

No sneering platitudes or simple solutions to complex issues.

[@edson.lazaro.realtor]

Regarding what he says about Russia in the 90s: I grew up in Portugal, and I remember how many ukrainians, moldovans and russians were migrating to Portugal in the 90s and early 2000s describing this. I remember a ukranian man that was a construction worker in my street showing me a picture of him with a young Andriy Shevchenko, telling me he was his coach when he was younger. I also remember young russian and ukranian school colleagues arguing with the teachers when they were saying good things about Gorbachev when talking about the end of the soviet union.

[@andreeaalexandru7811]

Thanks to Gorbachev, those young people are free now. Coming from Eastern Europe helps understanding things in more depth but it is not a given. There are plenty of people from Eastern Europe who miss communism, and most of them are the ones who never or briefly lived it. Yet thank God there are a minority and we haven't seen and we won't see any left extremism or even Left leadership in that part of the world. That's why we even see the right extremism often in there - most people know how bad left extremism is back there.

[@HermanLabuschagne]

What a breath of fresh air. This should be used as a model to educate the overwhelming majority of completely mediocre interviewers on how it is done. My compliments to a superb interviewer for his well-articulated speech, his intelligent conversation and superior grasp of the topic under discussion. It goes without saying that Konstantin deserves equal praise for his well-presented logic and brilliant conversation skills.

[@sergeant64]

A Russian joke is that a man calls the stamp factory (there was 1 in the Soviet Union) and complains that the glue has poor adhesion. The factory responds that he is spitting on the wrong side, the front side has a picture of president Brezhnev.

[@user-qp8uj1lc3j]

No, he's a disinformation agent for the MI5 ! He's also not ethnically Russian! And left when he was still very young. His father was a corrupt government employee paid by the Western intelligence agency to betray Russia. That's why they had to run, before his dad was put in prison!

[@philiprufus4427]

Which One ?@@sergeant64

[@niarlatotepbasset]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@t.l.1610]

I love how he personalized the early 90’s for Russians. A lot of people in the West don’t realize how much suffering “democracy” caused for former Soviet citizens.

[@user-el3rk6os3p]

Russians realized very quickly that 'democracy' means the West lives like kings, while the rest of the world are paying for it. War in Iraq, while cloaked in 'democracy', was really about oil.

[@johanswede8200]

You let the criminals take over...once again...

[@scarletred8888]

Yes but he didn't mention how after the 90s ended a new generation of Russians emerged, who looked to the west and were carving out a new future, travelling, studying abroad, using the internet to forge connections and work with other people around the world -this was growing enormously - unfortunately most of them have now fled to neighbouring countries- this war has probably set Russia back 40 years

[@t.l.1610]

@@scarletred8888 Oh yes, the brain drain. Started before the war actually - afraid of getting stuck, people expatriated once Russian troops started massing on the border. Remains to be seen what Russia will be like after. More autocratic for sure after all these new laws. But economically they may emerge fine, they’ve been preparing for this for years.

[@powerbite92]

But he will never tell you WHAT all those cruel oligarchs had in common with each other...

[@NotJRB]

People in the States do not generally use the term "brilliant" as often as other English-speaking countries. With that said, this was an absolutely brilliant conversation. I now a different perception and understanding the Soviet psyche. Thank you, both!

[@billcasey8150]

I have never enjoyed an interview as much as this one. We need this man and his intellect here in the U.S. Well Done!

[@UKtoUSABrit]

Kisin is rapidly moving up the list of credible public intellectuals - and its a short list. VERY smart and interesting. 👍👍👍

[@Diongreco]

Who is he??

[@theinngu5560]

@@Diongreco Why are you here ?

[@karl-arnal]

Sure is exactly what happens when one align himself with the view the dominant ideology and its structures are promoting

[@angelozachos8777]

KISIN ? An “INTELLECTUAL” ?🤡🤡🤡🤡 Oh man ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lovesees4320]

@@theinngu5560 cose it an open forum You the thought Police? 🤡🌎

[@katerina1983]

Voice of sanity! I was born in USSR in 1983 and I've been living for almost 13 years in Belgium now, and I confirm every single word that he says, and I agree completely. Bravo.

[@nelloli8279]

I disagree completely. Another propogandist of west.

[@pastexpiry2013B]

Stay safe. Beware the pronoun police and the alphabet mafia.

[@andre1987eph]

Not really. He's pro globalist, and ironically therefore pro-socialist markist "sleeper cell" guy himself. Russia is no longer Socialist. The West is more socialist than Russia.

[@inbuckswetrust7357]

Полуправду он наговорил.

[@irynahaddock3132]

Екатерина, а что конкректно вы помните? Ведь на момент развала СССР вам было всего лишь 8 лет! Неужели вы воспринимали советскую действительность как взрослый человек, анализируя события тех давних лет? Кстати, тему ГУЛАГА товарщ Кисин не раскрыл совсем, а лишь дал упрощенную картинку для западного слушателя. Предсталяю, какие ассоциации возникли в головах англичан или австралийцев, когда он назвал ГУЛАГ " a Soviet concentration camp for people who "misbehave". Подобные упрощения и искажения фактов-знак неуважения к слушателю.

[@johandupreez4693]

What insight and that from someone so young, he's articulate and full of knowledge gained from experiences which are from recent history. I agree with him wholeheartedly and have this quote for him " some things in life are more important than life itself " we need to support you and stand up and be counted.

[@user-ik1bl4br7w]

What a joy to listen to such a nuanced thinker and articulate speaker!

[@deadastronaut2440]

Satire?

[@Alex_Shishkin_1962]

Great interview, John! As a Russian myself, having lived in USSR until I was 30, USSR fell apart, and I left and eventually decided to become an American :-), all I can say is in my personal opinion everything Konstantin has said about Russia is right on the money. Should be very educational to those who have no personal knowledge of the subject, but are willing to listen.

[@mjames9067]

So the west had nothing it, right 🤔

[@Alex_Shishkin_1962]

@@mjames9067 Oh, the West had a lot to do with the current situation. The West, USA to be specific, forced Ukraine to give up its part of the Soviet nuclear deterrent. In exchange, we gave Ukrainians 'security guarantees'. Guess what - we lied. The West, Obama administration to be specific, pushed Ukraine to sell most of its stockpile of Soviet-era arms and munitions, because - yes, 'security guarantees'. And then, when Russia attacked the first time in 2014, the same administration all but ordered Ukrainians not to resist. Because - yes, they did not want to publicly get called on their lie of 'security guarantees'. So yes, the West had essentially built this situation, by first disarming Ukraine and then helping Russia to rebuild its war machine.

[@konradk4988]

Being citicen of Eastern European country I must admit Konstantin hits a nail in every single sentence. This is one of top most quality interview I have witnessed in YT

[@OlgasBritishFells]

I am Russian. I am so grateful for this interview. Konstantin is so intelligent, he so eloquently explained the Russian culture and why people are the way they are and the current state of affairs.

[@cmznuke]

Not really my friend, not really! Mostly, but not entirely. The example he gives about Ceausescu's alleged approval rate (among people) being 93 or so, well, it's totally false. If these had been the official numbers, than the value is too low. It would have exceeded 100%, to put it as a joke yet considering the communist propaganda, therefore 93 is too low. If those numbers were unofficial, then that's way too high, meaning 93% would have been communist fanatics, which is again false. I would say a fair number would be around 20-30%, meaning people who would have gained directly by actively supporting the communist regime (and of course collaborators of the political police Securitatea etc.). Ceausescu getting shot the next day didn't come as a surprise. He was an autocrat, a tyrant hated for crimes against humanity he committed against his people. I can tell because I live in Romania since 1969...

[@tatianalyulkin410]

And the bots come out. How can a true Stalin's terror survivor possibly justify what's happening in Ukraine under Zelensky?

[@jus2z]

He's bitching for 70 minutes straight.

[@konradk4988]

​@@jus2z have you been to Russia or do you have any connection to this country? Kisin is not ranting. He makes diagnosis.

[@wendyolson7110]

Stopped me in my tracks when he said, “not to forget, life is a competition.” Also that China and Russia are not sitting around discussing identity politics.

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

The Indians and Chinese in Australia know this deeply. Their kids are studying hard and are taught respect at home.

[@norbertglaser3650]

Pity we don’t have more people like Constantin. Very wise.

[@robjob9052]

Mr Kisin, may your children be healthy, happy and numerous!

[@gordonicus4637]

So nice to hear two people with very different religious convictions interacting with respect and no judgementalism.

[@pas0003]

My Ukraininian family have a lot of similar stories about Gulags and repression during the soviet era. Thisbis a really good summary and I wholeheartedly agree about the sentiments about appreciating and guarding, what we have in the West

[@Arroway2357]

Thank you so much for this point of view. I was an early teen when the USSR collapsed and even then wondered, "Who's going to teach these people how to live in an unplanned economy?"

[@LilyGazou]

👍🏼

[@28pbtkh23]

You were ahead of your time.

[@SandorFule]

I am hungarian, born in 63, in the soviet era. For me it is terrifying to see, very many of the hungarians cry autocracy back. In the soviet era, life was safe. No competition, no bonus-malus. Free school, free hospital, reliable pension... Lower standard, but safe. And many, many people prefers that.

[@spacecat4691]

I am a Serbian. The same experience. Our nations are brainwashed.

[@litlnote-wu6yv]

Brain washing is universal.

[@matahari1576]

EU dictatorship won’t provide any of it. Globalists don’t believe in democracy, they hardly pretend they do so.

[@resurrectingexcellence]

Stuff that way of life

[@DrCruel]

Many people would like to go back to medieval days too.

[@davidthomas7332]

Great program. Kisin has a unique background to be able to explain Russia and it’s war with Ukraine. Anderson brought it together well too.

[@kathleentrinity7367]

Konstantin is a very thoughtful and objective young man. So often analysts will skirt over facts that appear to challenge our views, but he gives a full picture. This makes for a more believable and nuanced case for democracy in the end.

[@irynahaddock3132]

Objective? His family left Russian when he was 11 years old! in 1993. He has been out of Russia for 30 years. Being a product of the British system of education and culture, he can not be objective a priori.

[@PeterTimmermans-kg1gh]

Dear John i have followed you for a long time when you were minister for agriculture and you brought Peter the horseman and regenerate land according to look at history how the land was being managed by the indigenous and he had a good system and you brought that to awareness to lots more people on land line then i missed you for a long time and after covid you brought more and more podcast with very interesting people on your program and i love your interviews thanks very much keep up interviewing great and interesting people thanks very much 😄🌈🤗🌺🥰

[@jamesbudlong749]

Konstantin: I have enjoyed several of your appearances as comedian. I have admired your "Why don't they believe us?" article and at that time translated it into German so that I could pass it on to some of my friends. Now I thank you very much for the valueable insights you have given in this conversation about the Russian mindset. John: Thank you for listening patiently. Sadly this has become a rare quality these days.

[@pavelrott311]

Why do you think a Jewish boy sent to a British boarding school at age of 11 who goes under a pseudonym last name would have any insight into a Russian mindset? 🤷‍♂️ From reading Anna Karenina?

[@jamesbudlong749]

@@pavelrott311 Why do you think that someone who has lived the first 12 years of his life in the capital of Russia has no insight into a Russian mindset? And by the way: what does his Jewish heritage have to do with this?

[@pavelrott311]

@@jamesbudlong749 It's simple, really, I'm surprised you need to be explained obvious things. He comes from "Noviop" background, those are non-Russian elites that came to power after the revolution. His background is unknown, there is no information about his parents or grandparents apart from what he reported, so his last name is probably a pseudonim, much like Trotsky's. He was sent to a boarding school in mid-90 so his parents profited from the fall of the USSR, sales of state property or what have you. He hasn't lived in Russia for 30 years, wasn't educated there, doesn't have business relations there, yet keeps repeating "us, we". It's called "chutpah". To summarize: a Russian Jewish comic educated in British boarding school tells an Australian old tropes about Russia and warns him that Russians and Chinese want to take Western wealth. When talking to someone, it helps to know who you are dealing with - an eye doctor, a plumber or in this case, a polictical commentator. "Konstantin" "Kisin" wants to be UK's Ben Shapiro, I wish him all the luck.,

[@imyarek]

@@pavelrott311 Kisin is his real last name, what are you on about?

[@pavelrott311]

@@imyarek What’s his patronymic? How come there is literally no information in Russian internet about him? You can search yandex yourself. Grow up and open your eyes.

[@luckyluk3865]

wow! just wow! I've never heard of Konstantin before, but it has been absolutely refreshing and a pleasure to listen to his thoughts, maybe because they have also been my own, on every topic discussed here. But safe to say i've been feeling alone in this for years. Thank you John, and thank you Konstantin, for bringing the important questions and perspectives to the forefront!

[@vinniechan]

Check out his podcast triggernometry

[@JennyBrie2006]

😂

[@freebird7017]

You’re not alone, David. Many of us agree. Just hope we are enough, for our children‘s sakes.

[@user-rl4hr5bw7l]

they guy doesn't know what he is talking about. He listens to Liberty Radio

[@User-od4qu]

@@vinniechan The New Atlas, iEarlGrey, Richard Medhurst, Eva K Bartlett

[@joanr3189]

This conversation is addictive. I am neglecting other duties. 😮

[@richardmabe4186]

My uncle was a ship captain who sailed the world for 40 years. He died 15 years ago and even then said the British have freedoms they take for granted which they should not do.

[@JeffMTX]

They, and we Americans, will lose them.

[@richardmabe4186]

It's easy to be pessimistic but we must push back. Times can and do change.@@JeffMTX

[@CorneliaIng]

Brilliant interview, brilliant guest. It gave me a different view on my own childhood and youth in the GDR under Russian influence, and a new perspective on some of the political struggles we have now here in eastern Germany.

[@robertstewart6175]

Thank you John for another excellent presentation. It is a great shame that your nomination for the Senate was not taken up. It is people of your calibre who are desperately needed in our Parliament. Thanks for the great work you are doing. Rob from WA

[@cm-kl2wx]

I actually think John can have greater influence doing what he's doing, than getting used up in the Australian political system...

[@pamelafoley9815]

This American girl is not using God to explain Mother Nature or unanswered questions. God is just I am.

[@voyd1507]

Look at the bright side....He is doing greater work here, reaching out so many people, than he would have ever been allowed in the Australian Senate.

[@markcarey67]

@@cm-kl2wx You do know he used to be the Deputy Prime Minister, right?

[@johnmadden7512]

@@markcarey67 He tried to get into the Senate but the National party chose - Ross Cadell (who was the event manager for the Newcastle National Maritime Festival from 2002 to 2004. He subsequently worked in motorsport sponsorship, including as manager for former F1 driver Alex Yoong before joining National Rugby League (NRL) team Newcastle Knights as sponsorship manager in June 2005. Easy choice I guess

[@priscillazietsman1300]

This video only popped up on my feed today, and I have to say I thorougly enjoyed it. I found it very insightful and informative and will definitely be looking for more discussions with Konstantin.

[@xmfclick]

KK: "Solzhenitsyn spent ten years in the gulag; I went to an English boarding school. That's where the similarity ends." Brilliant!

[@kynnbullock8068]

Tremendous! A masterclass in demonstrating the art of conversation - differences of opinion expressed in a mutually respectful manner and then moving on. Thank you both!

[@jtzoltan]

@@Kaatu-barada-nikto who is, the guest or the host?

[@powerbite92]

@@jtzoltan Kisin is a joke amogst his fellow journalists and commentators. he has zero credibility.

[@informant09]

@@jtzoltan The guest.

[@gwho]

what difference of opinion? -_-. the much more remarkable thing is what he's actually saying.

[@cjwensleydale9460]

@@Kaatu-barada-nikto 🤣🤣🤣

[@xmfclick]

I love that Konstantin refers to the UK and the West as "we". He is a great example of an immigrant truly integrating and assimilating into his adopted/adoptive new life. Would that immigrants from certain other countries and cultures did the same, rather than trying to turn their new country into a clone of the one they left behind.

[@OlgasBritishFells]

I also refer to UK as "we", because I chose to live here, it's my home. I came to Britain when I was 20. Konstantin immigrated even younger, he said he went to British boarding school. Of course, he will be referring to UK as "we".

[@foreverhungry7777]

@@OlgasBritishFells Many people who migrate to the UK or were even born there do not see the UK as their home. Those people tend to be entitled where Konstantin tends to be grateful for the opportunity to build a life for himself within its borders.

[@lesleyelalami2562]

I'll second that..... I cant believe the arrogance and entitlement that's imported into UK, illegally or otherwise .... not a good look and totally incompatible with our own values.@@foreverhungry7777

[@MsShrikester]

British boarding school is a privileged education. I am not sure how many Brits can say about themselves, that they are privileged. If Kisin had a chance to go to such a school, someone in his family managed to make enough money possibly in Russia, possibly in Putin's time, or pre-Putin's time (remember the 1990s?). All those factors make him a "we" rather then "them". He is perfectly entitled to this view, however, his background has shaped his views.

[@xmfclick]

​@@MsShrikester:: It's fairly easy to find videos of KK talking about how he grew up, his father, and how he (KK) ended up in an English boarding school. It's interesting - do a bit of research; it's worth it. Or maybe buy one of his books.

[@hardleecure]

a year has gone by since this video went up. Im curious what the thoughts are of these two guys on the situation globally.

[@irenagrant-koch7159]

THIS is an excellent interview. The meeting of 2 intelligent minds.

[@szendrich]

Always enjoy your interesting and very balanced conversations, Mr. Anderson. I enjoyed Konstantin Kisin more in this forum than in his usual one. He hides too much wisdom behind his comedy and I prefer to have it raw. Many thanks to you both.

[@jf7243]

What an enormously critical interview John. Your relaxed but very carefully thoughtful questioning, style and commentary combine with Konstantin’s honest and deep understanding of the East and the West which make this an extraordinary interview of the time. Many thanks.

[@chijavier1869]

I came across Konstantin Kisin, like many others I guess, having watched his Oxford speech….and what a stonking speech that was! Checked out his podcast interviews with some and that other impressive Arc speech he gave and in my mind this man is someone who when he speaks you listen!

[@jae2686]

I bought both my daughters Konstantin’s book for Christmas. Essential reading.

[@rekindlefitness]

Fantastic interview. Both the host and the guest are superb at what they do.

[@simplelifelost]

One of your best John; and you recruited a new fan for Konstantin.

[@ronjon7942]

“We are so attached to safety and comfort, and stability, we WILL throw away our rights, and freedoms! And that worries me.” True enough. And our governments are happy to comply. Dr. Victor Davis Hanson couldn’t have said it better when talking about citizenship.

[@user-mn8re8jp7v]

Everything he is talking about here my family and I lived through…in Ukraine!…I left the country in 90-s…But we still love our country and watch with pain in our hearts what is happening in it today! ❤️💙💛🇺🇦

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

Konstantin is always great but he's at his absolute best in this interview.

[@Diongreco]

Best in what exactly? How can he speak about Russian psyche when he isn't Russian himself?

[@theinngu5560]

@@Diongreco He is Russian!!

[@Holmnielsen-]

This was really a great interview.

[@Diongreco]

@@theinngu5560I am here to tell you not to believe him because he isn't Russian. He is fooling people like you.

[@Alex_Shishkin_1962]

@@Diongreco A) Konstantin is, in fact, Russian. B) I am a Russian by birth, too, and have lived in USSR until I was 30 and the country fell apart. And as a Russian with a long experience living there I can say in full confidence that what Konstantin is saying is right on the money. So, what's your excuse for lying about the man and trying to smear him?

[@MolotovEcho]

This should be called: "Point of view on Russian psyche by son of soviet dissident". That would sums it up pretty well.

[@user-gd6il5zb8l]

You made me spit me coffee with this comment amongst the ignorant "such a brilliant man!" type of comments. Agree 100%

[@areyoustupid.....]

@@user-gd6il5zb8l both talking out your arse! Communism destroyed more Russian lives in history than anything. Then they were told do not question. Or to the gulag where millions were sent! Disgusting

[@mickdelaney]

You disagree. Maybe challenge the ideas ?

[@sergeymanakov6267]

@@mickdelaney This Mr. Kissin is literally the son of Yeltsin’s most powerful jewish official, one of the organizers of the largest robbery in history. For some reason, this side of his biography is missing from the english wiki.

[@user-ob3ce2le2o]

Genau, seine Sicht

[@Martin-jd3oc]

I so wish more people - especially those with a woke persuasion - would really listen to this interview.

[@eimjabegg5943]

Another enlightening guest and informative conversation. Thanks so much.

[@roselandthaller7378]

An important interview that brings enormously useful context to an otherwise poorly reported and badly understood part of the world. Big thanks to Konstantin Kisin and John Anderson for this.

[@007.M-D]

Very useful discussion , intelligent questions ,factual and balanced answers.Many thanks to both of you.👌

[@elkrazi]

Hwow this is really high quality stuff you've got going! Thank you for giving us this wonderful wonderful insightful conversation. We need more of these kinds of discussions happening. Brilliant stuff!

[@joanr3189]

Best conversation, ever. Much appreciated.

[@cuisina1055]

I would fully support John if he ran again. ( God knows , we need GOOD politicians at this time) He is a wonderful Australian. Thank you John for your perspective. In a world full of propaganda, your conversations are so refreshing to hear. Truths are STILL important.

[@andrewk7698]

As a Canadian/Englishman I really wish we had somebody of the caliber of John Anderson as a leader in the west right now, we really need it

[@dmo7815]

From USA, we’ve been watching the peaceful protest against vaccines passport. The police brutality and Trudoe declaration of marshal law. Banks freezing accounts . Our SCOTUS was able to stop mandatory jabs except for Federal employees. Now we, the people are seeing undisclosed information about hazards from the jab.

[@leononchik]

Canadians have Jordan Peterson.

[@gmw3083]

They're not coming for anything. The west is destroying itself and blaming the other. That's all the puppets are trained to do.

[@stu281]

What Kisin knows about the Russians Psyche. You could write on the back of a postage stamp.

[@mjames9067]

Typical rasist Australian spreading western propaganda 🙄

[@user-fu7df3of7e]

I love how pragmatic you both are, context matters the most. Great podcast

[@risenshine2783]

Triggernometry did a great interview with Dr John Campbell too. I support Russias response to the hostile US. My eyes are opening to the full extent of the grip the elites largely from USA have on us all and I am in the UK. Thanks to people like this man. My gratitude.

[@johnchristmas7522]

Wow Konstantin is right on song. He shows the shear naivety of leaders, Media and people in the West. This man is very articulate and pushes his views forward, will not be rolled over as I have seen in his other interviews. He's a gem. Whether on Wokeness or the Ukraine War. A real blast of fresh air across such tripe dished out to us all. I watched him on "Question time", he was a revelation, showed up the bigots and naiveness of those proporting to know everything! Marvellous.

[@projectadrift7711]

a good conversation that we really need right now as a western society, the kind of conversation people need patience for and have respect for.

[@neuuser7071]

Our governments are so far gone I don’t believe they’re amenable to reason at this point.

[@projectadrift7711]

@@neuuser7071 Politics has become more and more emotional in the past 20 years.

[@theinngu5560]

@@projectadrift7711 a reflection of society

[@Conserpov]

Good conversation? This whole conversation is nothing but a stream of ludicrous Western propaganda soundbites. Grow up.

[@yaelz6043]

@@Conserpov they cannot, they have no ability to think or decide, only feel the emotions programmed into them.

[@davidbanner6230]

: GREAT, GREAT, STUFF John Anderson....these interview with Konstantin Kisin are the best I have ever seen....THANK YOU.... DB : Konstantin Kisin may say the he is a non-believer yet, by his narration of why Columbus sailed West instead of east, he is saying that reason was divine intervention…?

[@digitalnomad9985]

He described himself as sort of an agnostic. It is possible to hold out the possibility of God without believing in a particular religion. It's not salvific, but it is possible.

[@bransemlin56]

Great conversation! Thanks so much!

[@oriain81]

When I listen to these long conversations on KZbin, you learn so much and get some great insight. Great interview.

[@maryka2218]

Hear hear! Brilliant every bit of this discussion!!

[@jolindo6724]

I remember an interview with Lee Kwan Yew the man that put Singapore on the map and made it the country it is today with no resources except geographical position an 3 warring ethnic cultures (Malays, Chinese and Indians with some Europeans thrown into the mix post Independance from Britian). When the interviewer brought up that he was a dictator he said "history will be the judge, by the results I have achieved for my people". Singapore is now the envy of many a country and even his critics have to admit and be grateful for what he achieved in the face of global pressure and internal corruption and resistance.

[@Hollis_wants_your_comments]

Excellent conversation. Thank you.

[@matthewmorgan7106]

Excellent interview. John always has the best guests

[@agnesberes4084]

I guess he was the guest here,it is Triggernometry's studio...

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[@benmcguinness4858]

Great conversation. Great to hear somebody mention Myanmar 🇲🇲 such a beautiful country with incredible people. A true tragedy.

[@theinngu5560]

Yes Myanmar really wonderful and appalling military dictatorship.

[@tonyaspalding8543]

I have learned more than ever about how and why the people of Russia think and behave it’s a complete eye opener for me. Everyone should hear this interview it will change your understanding and perspective

[@avx4281]

Mr Kisin is very wise and knowledgeable. Great conversation.

[@bluebird6300]

My family will attest to this perspective as well. I was excited to hear my mother was considered "rich". I asked really, tell me more...her family had 1 pig each year and this was in the 1960's...😬

[@jamesjackson7844]

Excellent discussion, throughly enjoyed.

[@sauermaischeyahoo7834]

In the UK, when Tony Blair was in government, the requirement for a prosecutor to demonstrate that the accused had not only committed an unlawful act, but also to show that it was committed with intent or recklessly, was removed. Before this happened, comedians had a rock solid defence against troublemakers finding fault with their acts: their intent was comedic, not malign. Since intent has been made irrelevant to guilt, this defence has been removed. This has had a deleterious effect on comedy.

[@carolekohl-duggan9982]

I really enjoyed this the first time l listened, now once again but more so! Thanks. Deutschland+Uk.

[@derekcooney6576]

Superb non hysterical discussion. Konstantin is excellent!

[@sebrenastahnke2112]

Kudos to KK; he's brilliant!

[@Diongreco]

Who is he??

[@kenolavaebeloe6894]

Thank you.

[@piffpaff1482]

I am from Germany, thankful to understand enough english to follow this conversation of two intelligent men, thank you for this deep insight👋

[@nationalpropagandist]

Englisch ist ein sächsischer Dialekt. Für uns ist Englisch kein Problem 😝

[@k54dhKJFGiht]

Excellent interview! Both parties. Now THIS is good media!

[@cathydelfierro5882]

People weren’t lined up and forced to get vaccinated even with the mandate. I vaccinated my kids 30 years ago because I wanted them to attend public schools where it was mandated. I could have not vaccinated and home schooled them.

[@lubamahzor6014]

@@cathydelfierro5882 People were forced on many workplaces, otherwise they were loosing their jobs, I personally know them. People were lined up, I personally know those people as well. Emotion of Fear was successfully doing its part. Vaccines that were created long time ago were different in their purpose. You have full rights not to believe or agree with what was said above . I am not going to elaborate more than I said.

[@Redheadedlady55]

~Thank you both for this eye opening into what is happening. Godspeed

[@pfrstreetgang7511]

All of us wish for just one politician capable of critical thinking to the degree this gentleman can. We need him exactly where he is. To keep doing exactly what he's doing. If for no other reason than to remind us westerners that the people in Russia / China and ourselves do not think the same about anything.

[@stuntmanstu1]

Brilliant conversation. Love the slight difference of opinions and the mutual respect. And the level of deep insight and intelligence in how Konstantin paints the picture of his life’s experiences. And John Anderson is simply a true gentleman and an amazing host.

[@JohnAndersonConversations]

Thank you! - JA Media Team

[@TheAnbyrley]

Wow to get John Anderson in your studio is a huge feat. Well done -- you Triggernometry guys are really making an impact!

[@zeno2501]

Agreed. Crazy how things work out really. The lads are hanging out in their new apartment with a former Deputy PM of Australia.

[@powerbite92]

They are state sponsored and obedient to the directives.

[@tchocky71]

I'm grateful for this interview. I have learnt a lot.

[@Gigi_J.]

It's like he is telling the story of my family even though I am from Lithuania..

[@user-fb3pu3qx3t]

Fascinating. Thank you both for an excellent interview.