The Truth of What's Really Happening with HyunA

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@anabarrera3196
@anabarrera3196 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call burning sun a controversy, it was a crime.
@Artnotforthesakeofart
@Artnotforthesakeofart 3 ай бұрын
THIS.
@notsoptimistic
@notsoptimistic 3 ай бұрын
and it was pointed out the leader is jjy like it's not? he's a part of it, yes but the mastermind of everything is seungri from big bang. given how big the case is and how disgusting the way it was handled I thought everyone knows the perpetrators by now
@byeleanorwidya
@byeleanorwidya 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Seungri fans really out there saying the Burning Sun crime is a controversy or drama. There are VICTIMS! Seungri and a bunch of his low life friends are ARRESTED. The fact that they are still live their life normally is beyond disgusting.
@Sooksookehhhhh
@Sooksookehhhhh 3 ай бұрын
Crime and controvery lmao
@haku_3121
@haku_3121 3 ай бұрын
YES pleeaaassse people need to STOP calling that a controversy
@payita6931
@payita6931 3 ай бұрын
She made a decision , she has to live with it
@EtinosaOsawemwenze
@EtinosaOsawemwenze 3 ай бұрын
Amen
@Mocha-ue5jj
@Mocha-ue5jj 3 ай бұрын
louder ‼
@amairan5781
@amairan5781 3 ай бұрын
YES!
@dk-tw3xx
@dk-tw3xx 3 ай бұрын
Fr
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 3 ай бұрын
I think she’s fine with it lmao. She’s set for life anyway. Like her bf or not she’ll definitely marry him and probably fall pregnant in the next year or so
@oran_berry
@oran_berry 3 ай бұрын
No cause it boils my blood hearing Korean netizens saying 'foreigners are more sensitive to these problems' like wasn't the Burning Sun scandal a huge issue in KOREA? What about YOUR PEOPLE in YOUR OWN COUNTRY, nonetheless the idols FROM KOREA who suffered because of it? Crazy.
@emmavu09
@emmavu09 3 ай бұрын
It’s true though ! That foreigners are more sensitive in the issue than Koreans generally and lawfully . Yes it was a big issue in Korea but nothing has changed the one who have been caught was just a small fry and received just a slap in the wrist and they are all out of prison now .
@RM-sj8oc
@RM-sj8oc 3 ай бұрын
@oran_berry I completely agree
@RM-sj8oc
@RM-sj8oc 3 ай бұрын
Literally!!
@BELIEVER78989
@BELIEVER78989 3 ай бұрын
Why do people take Korean netizens so seriously, atp I am convinced those are just internet trolls, because no sane person will ever say things like these.
@alyssablunt7014
@alyssablunt7014 3 ай бұрын
Sadly from what I understood, SK is so much more "forgiven" to sexual attacks/rape than to weed and alcohol....When you see for example the difference between Hyuna scandal and Suga with the scooter...
@marieli3547
@marieli3547 3 ай бұрын
Hyuna not feeling ready for marriage with Dawn but suddenly ready to tie the knot with Junhyung is giving 500 Days of Summer 😭
@annewint
@annewint 3 ай бұрын
And so quickly
@tsukasa6364
@tsukasa6364 3 ай бұрын
Summer did nothing wrong in 500 days of summer. The main character projected his fantasies onto her, she owed him nothing.
@sugasinfireration5863
@sugasinfireration5863 3 ай бұрын
Dislike her for choosing this time out of all the men out there but she can change her mind about marriage whenever she wants. It’s her life and just because she didn’t feel ready at that moment and with that person back then, doesn’t me she can’t feel ready now. As I said, I understand that she is disliked because of the guy but stop hating her because it didn’t work out with Dawn or because she changes her opinions like every other human being out there.
@Sugas_Girr
@Sugas_Girr 3 ай бұрын
​@@sugasinfireration5863 💯💯💯💯💯
@feathery_machine
@feathery_machine 3 ай бұрын
@@Juniparrrthey weren’t best friends tho
@WhippedForJeonJungkook
@WhippedForJeonJungkook 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately HyunA career is seemingly over, she has ruined her good reputation and lost the support of the majority of her fans, it will be hard for her to come back from this, so she will not be as successful again as she once was
@DianaOsazenaye
@DianaOsazenaye 3 ай бұрын
they only reason why she got more hate was because she used to be poplar
@solarflame-he6cw
@solarflame-he6cw 3 ай бұрын
I agree
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 3 ай бұрын
It’s her doing. If she wants to be with a guy just let her ig 🤷‍♀️she’s set for life anyway but she’ll be marrying this guy so
@brittanybailey6828
@brittanybailey6828 3 ай бұрын
And most importantly she lost a good man
@riteshshrestha6066
@riteshshrestha6066 3 ай бұрын
But , why do you care. You have already pathetic life, she doesn't know exist
@therealgrimreaper68
@therealgrimreaper68 3 ай бұрын
She threw her career down the drain. She very well knew what she did and still chose to date him. Even if she breaks up now, there’s no way her career will recover.
@riteshshrestha6066
@riteshshrestha6066 3 ай бұрын
Come on man, how can you judge her life sitting in a basement. Hahaha, come out in real life 😂
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines 3 ай бұрын
​@@riteshshrestha6066???
@jasmineslaughter6054
@jasmineslaughter6054 3 ай бұрын
@@riteshshrestha6066 She’s dating someone who watched unconscious women getting raped, we have every right to judge the relationship.
@batata4427
@batata4427 3 ай бұрын
​@@riteshshrestha6066 are you incapable of coherent thought
@therealgrimreaper68
@therealgrimreaper68 3 ай бұрын
@@riteshshrestha6066 I’m doing this in real life, get out from under your rock
@z00merang18
@z00merang18 3 ай бұрын
Its not just something we can look over. Hes literally admitted to knowing about a disgusting crime. Her feminist image means nothing if shes gonna leave dawn just for some scumbag. For me its deserved and she clearly sees no issue throwing her career out the window.
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 3 ай бұрын
From what I’ve seen people think that he’s manipulating her and lying to her about his involvement which is a possibility while some people say that he never did anything but was simply guilty by association bc he knew what was happening which he admitted. I honestly don’t care, but you’re right, hope it’s all worth it for her, if this love is real I wish her the best. But her career will never be the same and yk she probably deserves it anyway
@cioccomenta
@cioccomenta 3 ай бұрын
WHAT FEMINIST IMAGE STOP IT PLEASE she’s not a feminist icon, she was forced since she was a child to do sexy concept. And I’m disgusted of you and all people (especially women) that screams female solidarity and than if a woman fall in love with a problematic man the first thought you have is “let’s cancel her” wow y’all sure are showing solidarity with women congratulation!!!
@riteshshrestha6066
@riteshshrestha6066 3 ай бұрын
How can you say it's deserve, she literally don't know you exist, you maybe in third world country or don't know, hyuna still live better life than you losers 😂
@tinanana-
@tinanana- 3 ай бұрын
@@lunarialoonaticI thought at the start that maybe he’s manipulating her. But it’s everywhere, and she says she knows what people are saying and what’s going on, but still chooses to do it. At this point even the marriage announcement feels like a stunt to show that they dgaf, but it’s not going well
@r1nkaku
@r1nkaku 3 ай бұрын
She never had a feminist image, if you look online she’s literally never said anything feminist or took a stance on anything, unless you think sexual music/image = feminism ….
@NezukoKamado-li3fv
@NezukoKamado-li3fv 3 ай бұрын
I just saw a video of HyunA doing a concert, and everyone was dead silent 😭
@kajoli71
@kajoli71 3 ай бұрын
Yikes 😬
@beardeddragon3665
@beardeddragon3665 3 ай бұрын
Oop
@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds
@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds 3 ай бұрын
I saw that as well I felt second hand embarrassment it seems like the Koreans in 5he. Comment section didn’t like her
@mizimashi_art
@mizimashi_art 3 ай бұрын
But why people even went to her concert? To be silent hmm?
@sydan-wv9tm
@sydan-wv9tm 3 ай бұрын
@@mizimashi_artit was a festival so they couldve bought tickets for other artists
@tashasmithy5795
@tashasmithy5795 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think Dawn unfollowed hyuna because he was bitter she was getting married it’s because who she was marrying. I understand why he wouldn’t want anything to do with the scandal
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
Plus like, he was madly in love with her for years, why is he required to see her posts on his feed after they broke up? It's normal to want to stop seeing that even after a cordial breakup
@Abliz
@Abliz 3 ай бұрын
“Foreigners are more sensitive to these problems”? Knetz are only sensitive to their faves gaining weight or dating. Why is it only international fans that take issue with violence against women and other actual crimes?
@blahblahblahblah729
@blahblahblahblah729 3 ай бұрын
The silence in her shows is proof that it isn't "just foreigners"
@deltasaves
@deltasaves 3 ай бұрын
The country still has lax laws on pr3dators and a story I learned more about, have continued to blame someone that was a child of their own SA by a group of older males.
@btspavedthewaythefact157
@btspavedthewaythefact157 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@likhwezititus
@likhwezititus 3 ай бұрын
​@@blahblahblahblah729right the original commenter seems so sanctimonious
@neonnyagic8803
@neonnyagic8803 3 ай бұрын
It just means we are more serious I do think its a translation thing
@StayGeneLETENHYPENREST
@StayGeneLETENHYPENREST 3 ай бұрын
Dawn even spent SO MUCH MONEY on their engagement rings for what? This? Poor Dawn.. HyunA never deserved such a nice guy.
@dianaosazenaye1313
@dianaosazenaye1313 3 ай бұрын
He was getting ready to go to the army too He lost money who know if he ok
@maywalker997
@maywalker997 3 ай бұрын
The bigger the ring, the more insecurities there are in the relationship. Dawn was a nice guy but it was clear for a long time that he was more into Hyuna than she was into him.
@diva80
@diva80 3 ай бұрын
HyunA is going to regret it later and I hope Dawn finds love by then.
@yenyen4114
@yenyen4114 3 ай бұрын
@@maywalker997 hyuna was literally the one who made the first move to dawn as per their interviews
@bloodmajesty414
@bloodmajesty414 3 ай бұрын
@@yenyen4114 Yeah but it seems like he was more like an accessory/arm candy to her. Dawn was the more serious one in the relationship. Dude's got a good heart -- he seriously wanted to commit to her.
@UbeMilkT
@UbeMilkT 3 ай бұрын
knetz calling international fans sensitive made me chuckle.
@emmavu09
@emmavu09 3 ай бұрын
Well it’s true though ! If that ‘burning sun scandal ‘ happened in US the perpetrators would get more than 5 years ..
@ontoLovingMyself
@ontoLovingMyself 3 ай бұрын
They are not wrong tbh, I've never seen such biased insensitive folks before, my respect for their culture decreases every time I see such people's stereotypes
@vronji
@vronji 3 ай бұрын
​@@ontoLovingMyselfnah bro knets get so pissy over their favourite idols dating, smoking, and just existing in general. theyre hypocrites to the max
@heraexp3
@heraexp3 3 ай бұрын
​@@vronjiExactly!! They care more about idol's weights and dating rumours than literal crimes and we are the sensitive ones... smh
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
They held a nationwide hate campaign for a 16-year-old who got written up by her school for swearing at some actual bullies in her middleschool who were s3xually harassing her friends. Yet this is "oh you're so sensitive". FOH with that
@lumen_adoria
@lumen_adoria 3 ай бұрын
The burning sun scandal is way worse than this video makes it to be.
@mogwai247
@mogwai247 3 ай бұрын
Honestly! Boiling it down to "hidden camera footage" and "un-consensual filming" is insane when these women were drugged and raped, then posted and further verbally abused in this chatroom. Really lost a lot of respect for this channel after this one.
@notsoptimistic
@notsoptimistic 3 ай бұрын
​@@mogwai247and it's not even a scandal, a crime. a huge crime happened, but the women, the victims had to live through what they suffered like nothing happened while the perpetrators got away, released from jail, and are still trying to open up the same type of club. this channel is a coward to not name the head of burning sun but instead jjy so let me put it here, it's seungri from bigbang. I'm disgusted.
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
The Burning Sun crime*
@SH-bm8yp
@SH-bm8yp 3 ай бұрын
I always supported Hyuna throughout all the hate she always got. But I have to admit... Hyuna's judgment in regards to this guy is disappointing. Kind of scary that a woman would want to be with a guy like that. I hope she knows what she's doing. Edit: people who commented thinking I said I supported Hyuna's relationship with this guy, please learn to read properly. I have never supported her relationship with this guy. Why are you kpop fans so aggressively stupid? Learn. To. Read. 👏🏽
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 3 ай бұрын
Happens more often than you think. I just hope it’s worth it to her. From what I’ve seen people think that he’s manipulating her and lying to her about his involvement which is a possibility while some people say that he never did anything but was simply guilty by association bc he knew what was happening which he admitted. I honestly don’t care, but you’re right, hope it’s all worth it for her, if this love is real I wish her the best.
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 3 ай бұрын
Happens more often than you think. I just hope it’s worth it to her. From what I’ve seen people think that he’s manipulating her and lying to her about his involvement which is a possibility while some people say that he never did anything but was simply guilty by association bc he knew what was happening which he admitted. I honestly don’t care, but you’re right, hope it’s all worth it for her, if this love is real I wish her the best.
@Nnsjdndks
@Nnsjdndks 3 ай бұрын
​@@lunarialoonatic he did what?
@blahblahblahblah729
@blahblahblahblah729 3 ай бұрын
​@@Nnsjdndks He has admitted to receiving and watching a sexually explicit video of a girl that was recorded and shared without her consent, and admitted to knowing that it wasn't consented. And failing to report this crime (of recording and sharing). In any country that actually takes sexual abuse seriously, he would have been charged with failure to report a crime and of being complicit, but as we know, South Korea isn't known for being harsh on sex offenders.
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines 3 ай бұрын
Obviously she knows what she's doing. She deserves this "hate". It's not hate, it's people holding her accountable for a bad moral judgement she made.
@littlered8060
@littlered8060 3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for Dawn, goes to show you can't sacrifice your life for love
@batata4427
@batata4427 3 ай бұрын
Don't, he dodged a bullet lmao
@faeri_
@faeri_ 3 ай бұрын
@@batata4427sounds like they’re referencing him also leaving/getting kicked out of Pentagon/Cube. That was a huge sacrifice, Pentagon was on the rise at the time.
@jiwoosong02
@jiwoosong02 3 ай бұрын
Saw his vlog, he looks so thin now. I hope he is getting help, he deserve a way happier life.
@jiwoosong02
@jiwoosong02 3 ай бұрын
@@faeri_ Yeah that was their peak too! Both him and Pentagon got robbed. After he left, I barely heard Pentagon. He was the attention grabber of the group too with his unique voice and charisma.
@princessnicki63
@princessnicki63 2 ай бұрын
I don't think it was necessarily his entire fault. Wasn't Hyuna the one who disclosed their relationship first?
@jungkookspurplehair
@jungkookspurplehair 3 ай бұрын
building a "feminist" image and dating a burning sun scandal dude is just too much, yikes.
@jessn.3851
@jessn.3851 3 ай бұрын
I felt it was more of a rebellious image. Feminism just happened to align with that.
@HardCoverJacket
@HardCoverJacket 3 ай бұрын
Its like she sabotaged herself
@mwahkitww
@mwahkitww 3 ай бұрын
"more sensitive to these problems" YOU MEAN CRIMES??
@ShinyWay1990
@ShinyWay1990 3 ай бұрын
"Foreigners are more sensitive to theese topics"? So, Koreans arent bothered by SA all that much?? 😅
@blahblahblahblah729
@blahblahblahblah729 3 ай бұрын
I mean, you can still get a reduced sentence for commiting crimes if you're drunk... You can't really expect much from a country like this
@raven3moon
@raven3moon 3 ай бұрын
​@@blahblahblahblah729That's the government, tho. Even democratic governments aren't all that responsive to citizen's will. Politicians care more about covering for the rich than anything. A lot of people in Korea are getting pretty fed up with the multiple cases unequal justice.
@deltasaves
@deltasaves 3 ай бұрын
In a country that has very lax laws on predation? Yes. General populace will still blame a victim that’s a child that they seduced an adult. So yeah, they don’t care as much if really at all. The country also has laws on defamation that are stupid as well that play into these things too
@enesjei
@enesjei 3 ай бұрын
SK and Japan culture are generaly don't really care about SA and mysoginistic. Victim blaming is very strong. You got SA-ed? It's your fault for being too sexy - type of situation most of the time.
@Thighlicious
@Thighlicious 3 ай бұрын
Ngl, meaning how it’s very common over there probably not
@BLINKCHILLIN
@BLINKCHILLIN 3 ай бұрын
Anyway, make sure to stream Dawn’s music and support him ❤️
@izabelleXoX
@izabelleXoX 3 ай бұрын
Yesss❤
@kimihime9901
@kimihime9901 3 ай бұрын
His music is great!!! He is super talented, charismatic, he is a great singer and dancer. He writes his own songs. And apart from that, he also seems to be a really kind and genuine guy. He really deserves better ❤😔
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 2 ай бұрын
For real! It gives the weeknd vibe with meaningful lyrics
@amairan5781
@amairan5781 3 ай бұрын
Her fans just found out she's not who she acts like. Dating a literal criminal? I'd say it'd be concerning if she doesn't go down.
@Godnofreeids
@Godnofreeids 3 ай бұрын
He's not a criminal though. Teh only thing he's guilty of is not reporting what his friend was doing. He didn't participate. I'm afraid you can't get jailed for inaction in such a case. Sounds to me like everyone in the comments has no idea what he was actually accused of.
@LanaVasel
@LanaVasel 2 ай бұрын
@@Godnofreeids People don't care, one day someone said that he was a criminal and everyone picked up on it, people like to bully, they don't need a reason and they won't figure out who the real criminal is and what Jonghyun is guilty of, they just like to hate.
@Anafuji7553
@Anafuji7553 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Godnofreeids yep he is not a criminal but obviously not a good person, if he sees the vid and think "it's not a big deal" when the vid show how women getting drugged, rap*d and film non consent, yeah that guy is a bad news.
@Crunchiecorpse
@Crunchiecorpse 3 ай бұрын
I feel so utterly bad for dawn bro so hyuna deserves this and will probs never come back from this im tbh disappointed
@rosebubbles.
@rosebubbles. 3 ай бұрын
Whoever has a worse life after a breakup was most likely the problem, in this case unfortunately, Hyuna
@blahblahblahblah729
@blahblahblahblah729 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I actually feel great for Dawn. He dogded a fucking nuclear bomb.
@rosebubbles.
@rosebubbles. 3 ай бұрын
@@TabeaSerenety issa joke😬
@elizabethgrinningson7730
@elizabethgrinningson7730 3 ай бұрын
Actually, Dawn would probably be better without her
@Crunchiecorpse
@Crunchiecorpse 3 ай бұрын
@@elizabethgrinningson7730 i def agree I’m just saying i feel bad that he lit left his whole group to be with this women for nothing
@nouraaz27
@nouraaz27 3 ай бұрын
Hope you'll find someone Dawn. You deserve better
@sientense
@sientense 3 ай бұрын
Hyuna lead me into KPOP with her song BABE. One of the reasons that made me to unstan Hyuna 2 years ago is a lack of her signature spark. She was so sassy and energetic on stage, then suddenly lost all her charisma on stage. I know about her illnes, and I still remember supportive comments on her SNS, some people suggested her to take a break or do less performances. A lot of fans speculated that considering her experience in the industry, Hyuna should drop her diva lifestyle and become kpop talent producer, directing concepts for idols and idol groups. She already influenced GIDLE a lot, why not continue her career in a more discreet, but profitable and secure way? But it seems to this day, that she wants to keep going, even if it means living by her old fame, performing old songs and popping up in news only when she's involved in controversy. It's honestly sad to see.
@jessn.3851
@jessn.3851 3 ай бұрын
I've been into Hyuna since she debuted with 4minute. She has always been immature. But that worked for her because she was young and it fit her music style. Now that she has been in the industry for so long, people expect her to be more mature and to make smarter decisions. As in, they expect her stage persona to be different from her actual personality, and for her to change that as needed. I don't think she is capable of that. She is doing what she has always done, and now it is leading her into a downward spiral. Personally, I'm surprised something like this didn't happen when she first had her health scare years ago. She made a poor choice in dating someone and that's what is destroying her career, but it could have been some other choice. This was her trajectory for a long time. All I'm hoping is that she doesn't end up really sick or unaliving herself. She needs real help, like a therapist.
@chocojellys
@chocojellys 3 ай бұрын
before handling gidle concept, i remember she successfully handling CLC concept from cutesy - innocent girlgroup to girlcrush - badass type of group. hobgoblin was played everywhere and became news for weeks if i'm not mistaken
@dayjimong
@dayjimong 3 ай бұрын
@@chocojellys thiss
@Jubbano
@Jubbano 3 ай бұрын
She shows NO REMORSE from the people HE HURT. Saying that as long as she’s happy basically EXCUSES every disgusting actions he’s done. That is unbelievable and selfish.
@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout
@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout 3 ай бұрын
Who did he hurt?
@caithenry8429
@caithenry8429 3 ай бұрын
Right?! Like what do you mean her happiness is more important than the trauma those women still hold from being SA'ed as MINORS
@MsAdams1053
@MsAdams1053 3 ай бұрын
She wasn’t involved. It’s one thing to express remorse for the victims and have your own thoughts on The Burning Sun crime/scandal but the interviewer asked about her partner. They are not synonymous. She answered with consideration of her partner and respect of their relationship. Far from selfish tbh.
@themambo6100
@themambo6100 Ай бұрын
He was in a horrible scandal (crime to be more appropriate) includes SA and R ape and all kind of disgusting stuff, he went to prison for a while but you know southkorea​@@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout
@darkneko666
@darkneko666 3 ай бұрын
I never understood people shooting themselves in the foot more than once lol
@Thatonegirlyupppp
@Thatonegirlyupppp 3 ай бұрын
HyunA 2021: I’m not cool 😎🎶🎶🎸 HyunA 2024: I’m not cool 😔💍💒
@rawrxD69
@rawrxD69 3 ай бұрын
Bruh, you just took me out
@jayrollo1352
@jayrollo1352 2 ай бұрын
Lol nothing that surprising. She got old.
@dianerosas7692
@dianerosas7692 3 ай бұрын
i need you to put a huge emphasis on the fact that it was VIDEOS OF WOMEN BEING RAPED SOMETIMES EVEN GANG RAPED. Disappointing how it seems it was downplayed
@LanaVasel
@LanaVasel 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but the only video YJH saw wasn't that type (all the actions in the video were with the consent of the girl, what’s disgusting is that the girl didn’t know that she was being filmed. Videos that you describe were in a chat group, but he wasn't in that chat. Not gonna defend him, but still facts are facts.
@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout
@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout 3 ай бұрын
@@LanaVaselall these backlash on these two are too much. Like holy sht he wasn’t convicted of committing any of those disgusting acts. The criminals are free and hiding but also trying to come back into the industry. Smh
@LanaVasel
@LanaVasel 3 ай бұрын
@@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout Yeah, all that hate are unnecessary, at least hate towards Hyuna, hating a woman on a man’s crime -sounds misogynist for me. I wanted to believe that Junghyun learned a lesson and never did mistake like this in the future, being a bystander and all that.
@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout
@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout 3 ай бұрын
@@LanaVasel yeah he admitted he was wrong for not doing anything and was already investigated and dismissed. These haters acting like he’s a criminal and shtting on hyuna. I get feeling bad for dawn but they broke up on a good note. these haters shouldn’t act like these two were convicted criminals. This energy should be targeted at the criminals who are now roaming free trying to open another club, hitting on girls, opening a restaurant in another country, getting back into the industry etc. I’m worried for hyunas mental health and I’ll be p*ssed at these people if she offs herself…
@LanaVasel
@LanaVasel 3 ай бұрын
@@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout Totally agree 🩷
@eeseosoo
@eeseosoo 3 ай бұрын
He litteraly dated her for his career, not for love or something, he said he left the industry, but when she posted about their relationship, he decided to come back just a few minutes later, it’s like a Britney Spears & Justin Timberlake situation, he will later dump her and accuse her of something to get attention and promotion
@bladegirlx
@bladegirlx 3 ай бұрын
Good point. Exactly.
@ontoLovingMyself
@ontoLovingMyself 3 ай бұрын
Proof? Also, her dating a criminal doesn't justify the situation 💀
@STAYATINYARMYSIN
@STAYATINYARMYSIN 3 ай бұрын
@@ontoLovingMyselfright like go after the fuckin men who actually committed the crimes 🤦🏽‍♀️ she wasn’t the one filming , assaulting , covering up what was happening.
@kiwihyunz7452
@kiwihyunz7452 3 ай бұрын
@@STAYATINYARMYSINstill very pick me as hell to date someone who’s involved in men SAing women. Stop defending her just because she’s pretty
@jiwoosong02
@jiwoosong02 3 ай бұрын
I am thinking this too! They probably thought they will get away with it coz she is Hyuna but the public is not liking them at all LOL
@CARL_093
@CARL_093 3 ай бұрын
She made the choces in life she will lived with it
@kateemma22
@kateemma22 3 ай бұрын
She's always seemed addicted to chaos but in a fun way. Now it seems Dawn was too boring so she went for someone extra chaotic... well, she flew too close to the sun this time.
@snigdhhamishra934
@snigdhhamishra934 2 ай бұрын
yeah its a burning sun
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
Huh, that's a take I haven't seen before. Now that you say it out loud, it kinda makes sense. I don't have enough info on her private life to fully confirm or refute it though, and I don't want any more info on her private life so
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 2 ай бұрын
Too close to the sun and burning
@Conanymous0406
@Conanymous0406 2 ай бұрын
Woah the word play
@Oohkamitama
@Oohkamitama 3 ай бұрын
Your partner of choice is a great representation of who you are if you choose to stay with them after knowing how terrible they are. “Yeah, he unalived about 100 million people but I’m ignoring it because I want to prioritize my happiness”. - probably the wives of dictators
@lumini3172
@lumini3172 3 ай бұрын
I assume a lot of them are the “I can fix them!” type. Or will try saying that their partners have changed. Sure, it’s been 5 years since TBSS and you can argue that YJH has changed, but even then we as outsiders have not seen anything to support that. Besides, it’s still not wise to make the relationship public when it should be obvious how said public would react. And Hyuna hasn’t bothered to defend YJH himself, she just defends the relationship. Whatever the case-whether he’s changed or not, whether they truly love each other or not, whether it’s a healthy relationship or not-she handled this about as well as a toddler handling a bomb.
@jiwoosong02
@jiwoosong02 3 ай бұрын
@@lumini3172 Also considering that half of her fans are a fan of her and dawn and not her alone. Them seeing her with someone after kinda ruining Dawn image (he looks skinny and unhealthy while they are still dating and after ngl) is part of her down fall especially because the fans knew that she didn't wanna get married to him yet chose to want to marry a new man in less than 1 year. If it had been a normal person people will likely accept it but she chose a person related to TBSS. Honestly disgust me so much, she even has feminist image before all that.
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
"I mean, I'm like really rich"
@weloosw5456
@weloosw5456 3 ай бұрын
the fact dawn had to leave pentagon to be with hyuna just for her to waste his 6 yrs is wt pisses me most
@dianaosazenaye1313
@dianaosazenaye1313 3 ай бұрын
Mm
@Thighlicious
@Thighlicious 3 ай бұрын
Facts cuz he still makes music , pentagon is no more but he probably would have had a solid solo career
@BB-hf9cw
@BB-hf9cw 3 ай бұрын
i would say it wasn't wasted if hyuna didnt go out of her way to date her old friend / ex fling and a literal burning sun enabler/ accomplice and then deciding to marry him. it just feels so shitty no wonder dawn deleted images of them together. wishing the best for him.
@kimihime9901
@kimihime9901 3 ай бұрын
He even wrote songs about her after the break up saying she was his light and still praising her. She then goes to the same agency Dawn is signed to (why??), starts dating this jerk involved in the burning sun scandal, says she doesn’t care and only cares about her own happiness and now they are getting married (when she wasn’t ready to marry Dawn). What a fucking joke. Dawn deserves so much better. I would be so hurt if I was him
@dianaosazenaye1313
@dianaosazenaye1313 3 ай бұрын
@kimihime9901 so joke I never understood she did not go to marry him, but you go the some label again. just went to show her happiness to him for no reason. The guy that never hurt her it weird and cruel
@woomino1246
@woomino1246 3 ай бұрын
Nobody forced HyunA to date someone who was involved in one of the most horrific scandals in all of K-Pop. She wasn’t being held hostage by him or anyone related to him. It’s not like she wasn’t aware of what his role was in that scandal because if she had common sense, she would’ve left his ass the moment she found out about it. She knew exactly what she was getting into when she chose to date him. Also, nobody forced her to ruin another idol’s career through ditching him after he pretty much gave most of his life to her.
@SamiSmolboi
@SamiSmolboi 3 ай бұрын
Dawn literally left his career behind for her....
@jayrollo1352
@jayrollo1352 2 ай бұрын
And where did that lead him? Straight to the dumpster. He needs to be made an example for people. This is what happens when you give your life to someone who cares nothing about you. Sacrificing your career just to be with some h*3.
@Chumzsprivateaccount
@Chumzsprivateaccount 3 ай бұрын
People defending her need to understand that K-pop isn’t everything, and K-pop idols aren’t all sweet and innocent like fans want them to be. They are people, and like people, they do horrible stuff sometimes (although celebrities do worst stuff than the average criminal), and just like everyone else, we need to recognize that it’s bad
@STAYATINYARMYSIN
@STAYATINYARMYSIN 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t listen to this woman nor do I know much about her but to crucify her for the actions of her man is too much , they’re not having this same energy towards the men who actually did the crimes only going after a woman.
@Zhong_Babe
@Zhong_Babe 3 ай бұрын
You clearly have not actually looked into anything then because the men have been crucified. This man can't go anywhere without people sitting there saying shit to him about how he could have prevented things he's been denied service at places and shit like that like this is something that has been talking about. Like he's not escaping it the other men who are part of it it was so bad they fled the fucking country none of them even live in South Korea anymore because that's how much they've been ostracized and blacklisted. People are mad at her because she did not need to sit there go ahead and decide to date him not only that but. Every interview that she has done if you seen clips of it around she does nothing to talk about how people should be happy for her. How they are so happy together she doesn't say shit about the fact that you know your man could have prevented most of this from happening when he received those pictures and videos he could have literally sat there and turned his friend in it would have definitely put them on a watch list at the very leastif it didn't start an investigation cuz mind you at this point they had already started drugging women and taking advantage of them. They just had it created the club burning Sun yet the club was in a thing until like a year and a half after he had received those messages which he replied to laughing and saying vile things about women in those messages he wasn't trying to defend those women he wasn't trying to tell his friend you shouldn't be taking videos and pictures without consent he said none of that he sat there and laughed along with him. It feels like she's getting more backlash because she's still a public figure he is it. On top of that is because people who have been fans of hers for years myself included have picked up on the fact that she has this habit of playing the victim even when she decided to announce mind you she decided on her own didn't tell her company or her boyfriend to announce that her and Dawn were dating. They have been in a relationship for at least a year and a half or 2 years at that point in time the company was well aware of it but he had also only just stayed you not too long ago. They had no problem with them dating as long as they didn't announce it yet because his career wasn't solid yet hers had 10 years behind it. She almost ruined his entire career because he wasn't going to get signed to p Nation she told them she refused to sign with the company if they didn't sign her boyfriend. Which meant that they didn't want him in the first place and you could tell by the music that they had him come out with with them and how they barely promoted his ass they didn't want him they wanted her he just happened to be a burden. not to mention it doesn't help that for years that had always been rumors that she was obsessed with the man that she's now engaged to and the only reason she dated Dawn is because they had similarities when it came to certain parts of their personality. Meaning that there's a possibility that if there's any truth to that rumor she basically used that poor younger man who also happened to be her subordinate in the industry for 6 years. As she waited for the person she actually wanted to be with to be available. On top of that this man isn't Morrisville whatsoever none of them are but he isn't because people are still fans of his sadly and he does have a paid for service in Japan that is similar to bubble. Where he sat there and talked to them about the announcement which mind you he also had no clue his girlfriend was announcing that they were dating. which he apologized to his fans for and then proceeded to sit there and say that he wished that the things that happened aka the scandal of him not sitting there and turning his friend in didn't happen because it made his life and his fans life so hard not that he felt remorseful or bad about the fact that he could have helped prevent this shit or the fact that he aided in all of those women being taken advantage of know he was being sad and feeling bad because it ruined his career and it ruined his fans experience. @@STAYATINYARMYSIN
@0_02_p6
@0_02_p6 3 ай бұрын
@@STAYATINYARMYSIN exactly BLAME THE MEN THAT RE OUT , she is OUT OF IT
@Chumzsprivateaccount
@Chumzsprivateaccount 3 ай бұрын
@@STAYATINYARMYSIN they did have the same energy tho?? What are u talking about, he and everyone else who were involved, were basically shunned by everyone when it first came out
@Chumzsprivateaccount
@Chumzsprivateaccount 3 ай бұрын
@@0_02_p6 the man was blamed, he was shunned by everyone. You wanna talk about her being a women??? Her entire image is girl power and being a feminist, this is a slap in the face to the victims. One of the victims in the scandal was her own friend who helped expose these men, and now she’s dating one of them. So don’t use her gender as an excuse to not be called out, it’s weird
@ayasinx8797
@ayasinx8797 2 ай бұрын
International fans are "more sensitive" to these issues because they have a backbone and raise their voices against wrongdoings. SK could learn a thing or two instead of turning a blind eye and/or giving a slap on the wrist to perpetrators.
@bong5901
@bong5901 3 ай бұрын
I used to support Hyuna so much, as an international fan, her sexy and badass attitude were so different from what the idols image was supposed to be back then, and she gave a refreshing air with her music and dancing. It's just sad to see one of my fav idols lose grace in such a manner, and for such indignant matters. She is a woman, she got fans who are girls too, so I can't wrap around my head how she could date someone who disregards violence towards women... it's just sad and disappointing tbh. Though I come to understand that SA and violence towards women in Korea is such a swept-under-the-rug issue, that usually ends up in impunity, for a first world country their laws are so outdated and just straight up horrible, she as a woman, shouldn't disregard such things as well, that's how you become part of the problem as well. I, personally, am done supporting such a person who "doesn't care" about such important matters. WOMEN SHOULD SUPPORT WOMEN AND STAND UP ONE FOR EACH OTHER COS NO ONE ELSE WILL💪
@Mar-kc6cv
@Mar-kc6cv 3 ай бұрын
Im so disappointed, can’t defend her anymore :/
@davey6022
@davey6022 3 ай бұрын
Same
@SuperNova888.
@SuperNova888. 3 ай бұрын
Im sorry but she really thought people were just going to let this whole situation slide😭 it's one thing that some fans get mad when idols date a normal person but she literally dated a criminal and played dawn and one of her friends like hello😭😭😭
@AsaQueenAceOfBabymonster
@AsaQueenAceOfBabymonster 3 ай бұрын
Interesting how quickly things can turn on a feminist icon who’s songs like ping pong, nabilera, I’m not cool and even a collab with psy and more were loved by kpop and because of her decision she’s practically ended her career. You get what you get
@cioccomenta
@cioccomenta 3 ай бұрын
WHAT FEMINIST IMAGE STOP IT PLEASE she’s not a feminist icon, she was forced since she was a child to do sexy concept. And I’m disgusted of you and all people (especially women) that screams female solidarity and than if a woman fall in love with a problematic man the first thought you have is “let’s cancel her” wow y’all sure are showing solidarity with women congratulation!!!
@MsAdams1053
@MsAdams1053 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile male k-idols who were actually involved in the crimes, like Seungri, still have a fan base, the balls to open new clubs/restaurants, and parade in the spotlight like nothing happened. Even Chris Wu was still active and uncancelled while his victims struggled for years to bring him down. Hyuna announced her relationship to a bystander of a crime and people react like she served the victims to the perpetrators. Im tired of the double standard. Genuinely can’t blame her for her “idgaf” attitude. Caring as a woman in her industry will stick you 6 ft under.
@AsaQueenAceOfBabymonster
@AsaQueenAceOfBabymonster 3 ай бұрын
@@MsAdams1053 unfortunately as long as we have kpop we have double standards. The industry despite what we want it to be(comebacks, promotions, collabs, cool choreography, trends, nice idols) is really built on toxic fanbases, rumors, double standards, payola, lies, hate and crimes. Some examples Btss fandom are hated in the western world cause of how much they love bts and get labeled toxic that’s how the west knows of bts Yg was given 6 months parole but is now taking pics with CL Jisoo is praised for dating, Jennie hated for it double standards KATSEYE on Netflix and GMA within 2 months of their debut, payola without it kpop won’t be Yg claimed 2NE1 wasn’t gonna disband and they did but are now back, lies kept people upset and instantly joyful once they got what they wanted Suili has lost her life cause of people hating on her and now we wish she was back. hate Seurngi does horrible things noticed by bbc. They post about it and kpop is known because of crimes. This industry will chew you up and spit you out I read somewhere and for as long as time we can never change rhat 😢. No hate to any artist I mentioned btw except seurngi.
@eduarddaniel6786
@eduarddaniel6786 3 ай бұрын
she wasn’t feminist…
@AsaQueenAceOfBabymonster
@AsaQueenAceOfBabymonster 3 ай бұрын
@@eduarddaniel6786 k
@shivi5669
@shivi5669 3 ай бұрын
I left her fandom, she was kinda a unique artist and dawn was so amazing person, she is just a narssacistic person
@alexach.
@alexach. 3 ай бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@mariachristi9260
@mariachristi9260 3 ай бұрын
I think she's just a dumb person she doesn't basic logic because she's dating that criminal...
@chokenbako890
@chokenbako890 3 ай бұрын
WELL SAID!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
@_invinciScribe_24
@_invinciScribe_24 2 ай бұрын
Facts
@Napjeonginhan
@Napjeonginhan 3 ай бұрын
I feel bad for dawn the love of his life not wanting to marry him yet but when she got with that guy and now they are getting married, dawn deserves better ( edit - he also left he’s group for hyuna which is really sad)
@kimihime9901
@kimihime9901 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. I would be devastated!! I truly hope he is well, taking care of himself and finds true love with someone who truly cares about him. I feel so sad when watching the mv of his song “Heart”, you can see how hurt he was after the break up and now so much more stuff happened
@Wynter_ry
@Wynter_ry 3 ай бұрын
I like Dawn. He's a good singer. I'm not really his fan. But I like his music. I used to be a fan of Hyuna and I'm ashamed. I always thought they broke up cuz of Hyuna. But I just didn't like her anymore after their breakup. And I felt really good about my decision after I saw her dating a criminal. She played Dawn. She didn't want to start a family with him but now she wants to with a criminal? She maybe found her IDEAL match. Someone on her level. I hope Dawn finds someone who'll love him like he deserves. Their dating rumor really ruined Dawn's career. Meanwhile, she never really suffered that much. She was always more famous than Dawn. He was the one who suffered, while Hyuna enjoyed her fame. She's just a selfish person.
@diviertete3034
@diviertete3034 3 ай бұрын
Same here. And now, seeing how the things were when their relationship was discovered, I have the feeling that Hyuna pressured Dawn to assume that their were dating and she didn't even considered if he wanted that or not (but, of course, it's my speculation)
@_invinciScribe_24
@_invinciScribe_24 2 ай бұрын
Same 👍🏾 i’m a former K-pop fan Hyuna was one of the first i started listening too back then when she started i got over her long time ago i listened to Dawn a little bit i was kind of a fan of him in Pentagon i feel sorry for him tbh he deserves better ❤️
@simluv.7483
@simluv.7483 3 ай бұрын
I find it weird that people talk about her not marrying Dawn as part of the reason they are mad; she has no obligation to want to marry him versus the guy she's with now. I will say I still do not like her because she's in a relationship with someone who did some downright criminal things, but that has nothing and will never have anything to do with her decision to marry this guy instead of Dawn. She can change her mind about marriage regardless of how long she and Dawn were together. The continuing bringing up Dawn is missing the real problem of what is happening. I feel like if your first thought is, “why did she leave Dawn for this guy?” instead of what it should be, “Why is she with this guy he’s awful?” you have to reevaluate how invested you are in these idols' lives. This is not drama this is serious.
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
Excellent comment. Sometimes people are compatible short-term but not long term. It could be something as simple and non-negotiable as "I want kids and they don't"/vice-versa. You can't compromise on having children, you either have them or you don't, and that's one of the questions you have to ask when you're getting married.
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 2 ай бұрын
The thing is, she said she broke up with dawn because she wasn't ready for marriage even after years of dating. But now with this new man, she announces marriage in less than a year?? She's inconsistent
@luskaneseprince
@luskaneseprince 2 ай бұрын
​@@whatismyadjectiveiconfused She might not have been ready to marry anyone back then? It's possible that she was already falling out of love at that point? Or it's possible she rejected the marriage proposal out of fear/insecurity/the implied idea that she should start having a family soon after, but later on, once everything ended with Dawn, realized that she did enjoy the idea of getting married after all, just not with Dawn specifically. That's okay and doesn't inherently make her a bad person. She doesn't owe Dawn anything as there is no proof that she wasn't serious about their relationship as long as it lasted.
@yunfeikwon
@yunfeikwon 2 ай бұрын
​@@luskaneseprince I will agree if she didn't indirectly ruin Dawn's future as rookie back then. Pentagon is on the rise but got unnoticed the moment Dawn got kicked out. Hyuna might be fine since she already developed strong fanbase and a veteran but how about Dawn? Even later on he only had been known as Hyuna's bf instead of his own. Even if anyone support them back then, I quietly disagree and flustered at how selfish Hyuna could be. But I decided to support their relationship since Dawn's obviously so in love with her and I want to respect it and prayed for his happiness. Well it aged like milk now
@SB-ep2gh
@SB-ep2gh 3 ай бұрын
International fans are ‘sensitive’ to these issues?! We are not sensitive, we are disgusted, it’s not the same thing. Don’t make it seem like we’re hysterical and over-reacting.
@likhwezititus
@likhwezititus 3 ай бұрын
no one said anything about overreacting its evident that us international fans never really care for these controversies unless the law is involved.
@notsoptimistic
@notsoptimistic 3 ай бұрын
​@@likhwezititus1-read again. we're talking about the k-netz comments. they are saying that us international fans are sensitive when we are not at all. this involves their OWN people and the women living there but we're the only ones worried? yeah bcs they give no fucks. it's Korea, they never gave an actual fuck about SA and Ràpe cases 2- "international fans never really care about controversies unless law is involved" what is your point again? why shouldn't WE be concerned? it's a huge case that involved multiple women SAed, rAped, filmed without their consent. the victims are living through their lives with trauma. you need to word well before speaking.
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand south korea sometimes. Look, my country also patriarchal, yet most men here at least have enough moral to think that sex scandal and hurting women is disgusting.
@mehedihassan3119
@mehedihassan3119 3 ай бұрын
13:52 it's also possible that crowd charing is also fake 🙄..
@victorskj
@victorskj 3 ай бұрын
I agree, Pnation changed her into a half of a couple, psy promoted dawn amd her merely as a couple, and when they broke up both of them lost relevance. Bad management
@jiwoosong02
@jiwoosong02 3 ай бұрын
As I heard Cube kicked them out. Pnation kinda saved them ngl coz altho they become the talk of the town for good reason they still made a bad image by being kicked out of the company. Kinda agree with bad management tho, they are mostly promoted as a couple.
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
It was what kept them in the news in their interim, but you're right that they needed more effort put into creating distinct images and separating their release times. Although, when you're a couple with similar creative directions you may just want to do a song together like Ping Pong. At some level, it's unavoidable that a popular couple will be less popular individually or people will be sad when they break up and actively un-stan.
@maidatariq4934
@maidatariq4934 3 ай бұрын
She totally ruined herself I also liked her for her straightforward behaviour but she forgot that bcz of these fans she become successful and if she not going to have any fans then her career is ruined but fans should have support her it's too much I don't know what going to happen to her she is looking sick bcz she is also human so should had a big impact of hate comments its really a big dream for idols to become singer bcz of her not caring about people's she is done
@Ashura0v
@Ashura0v 3 ай бұрын
Just wondering. Is Zico still innocent when he publicly said he watched the “golden phone”?
@jungkookspurplehair
@jungkookspurplehair 3 ай бұрын
because zico didn't build a "feminist" image for himself and his work
@Vyro-g12
@Vyro-g12 3 ай бұрын
​@@jungkookspurplehair So it's okay for him to be involved in the burning sun because he's not a feminist? Or are you just saying that because he's a man and you're mysogynistic. Zico is still successful, well loved, and LITERALLY collabed with one of the biggest idols which is Jennie. Yet somehow Hyuna, the woman who isn't even related to the scandal is shamed and dragged to hell? Y'all are just being sexist and we can clearly see how you guys hold women on to higher standards.
@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds
@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds 3 ай бұрын
We dk what’s going on
@robertoangileri8530
@robertoangileri8530 3 ай бұрын
Zico has always been a shitty person, his fanbase just don’t care because they are like him lol
@Vyro-g12
@Vyro-g12 3 ай бұрын
@@jungkookspurplehair So that justifies and excuses his involvement in the scandal? Because he's not a feminist? Jeez, y'all would rather cancel a woman who wasn't even involved in the scandal than someone who was, that's just embarrassing.
@NyxSnowstorm
@NyxSnowstorm 3 ай бұрын
Bro her boyfriend is one of the reason why Go Hara died Ppl shouldn't forget that .
@LanaVasel
@LanaVasel 3 ай бұрын
No he is not. i think Choi Jong-hoon was quilty, cause he was her close friend and also a part of the Chat and the main rapist, Hara helped convince him to confess. Also the most guilty in her death is her ex-boyfriend Choi Jong Beom who was officially found guilty and is obliged to pay money to Hara's family.
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 2 ай бұрын
that made my jaw drop
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 2 ай бұрын
And his crime is so bad that his agency kicked him from his boygroup. The agency and his groupmates don't want him anymore
@LanaVasel
@LanaVasel 2 ай бұрын
@@whatismyadjectiveiconfused He wasn’t kicked, he was a CEO, so he withdrew himself
@jinniscola
@jinniscola 2 ай бұрын
And Go Hara was one of Hyunas closest friends too..
@muhammadsetiawan4980
@muhammadsetiawan4980 3 ай бұрын
Your partner is your reflection. and about Kpop you never knew which is the real them.
@SkzberryinNeverland_나나
@SkzberryinNeverland_나나 3 ай бұрын
I heard that dawn even left his group to be with hyunA, but she broke up with him for a guy from the burning sun scandal..dude that is so messed up. She’s going to have to have to apologize
@jackiescookies598
@jackiescookies598 3 ай бұрын
Correction they both got booted from Cube after cube denied dating rumors and hyuna decided she didn't want to keep it a secret.
@jiwoosong02
@jiwoosong02 3 ай бұрын
@@jackiescookies598 her not keeping anything a secret really ruin her career now coz she didn't tell her current company about her dating someone and publicly announced it. Unfortunately for them, fans are not taking his controversy lightly.
@veewooshi9882
@veewooshi9882 3 ай бұрын
When you lose most if not all your fan sites (made and maintained by the most hardcore fans) it’s pretty obvious that you don’t have a real following anymore. Why are people so baffled that concerts are being cancelled? And why on earth did she think, she could go on unbothered and people were still going to follow her around. That must have been quite the wake up call. That your fans have been sticking out for you over the years, even through all your controversies are now turning their backs. She probably thought this would blow over naturally. It’s good that she found love that suits her, but people don’t have to abide by it, nor respect it.
@deltasaves
@deltasaves 3 ай бұрын
I was happy I was not able to buy tickets. I wouldn’t even try to resell had I got them. She wants to be with a bum, it’s her business. She’s a whole ass adult and can lay in the bed she made
@b2stparadise
@b2stparadise 3 ай бұрын
As far as I know when Junghyun recived that video he asked if the woman concented to be filmed and that bastard said yes. Then it's when Junghyun made some inappropriate comments and moved on
@Seren3456
@Seren3456 3 ай бұрын
I also have vasovagal syncope and no, at least the last stage was not due to vasovagal syncope.
@tika_aka
@tika_aka 2 ай бұрын
*i’ve learned many things bout her life but if I had a chance like her I’ll never act like this*
@heejinators7342
@heejinators7342 3 ай бұрын
She is such a disappointment to me. I used to love her music and support her so much but after this I don’t know how I could support her.
@Justoneday.06.13
@Justoneday.06.13 2 ай бұрын
HyunA and EDawn were my kpop parents It's still traumatic for me to accept, I loved them together 😢
@AdityaDhiman-of4yo
@AdityaDhiman-of4yo 3 ай бұрын
I used to love hyuna but now bc of actions and dating I can't stand her
@ArmyStay2001
@ArmyStay2001 3 ай бұрын
same
@Kpopiskpop-
@Kpopiskpop- 3 ай бұрын
LOVE UR VIDSSS
@marymanyaa
@marymanyaa 2 ай бұрын
As someone who used to follow her and enjoy her songs, i unsubscribed & unfollowed her BECAUSE she started dating him. "Foreigners are more sensitive to this topics" AND SO SHOULD YOU! In fact I'm quite surprised why the netizens aren't sensitive enough about SA AND R@PE. When BS wasn't even a controversy but a straight up crime.
@bossbabysyda7714
@bossbabysyda7714 3 ай бұрын
Fans you did well on this some of these idols feel themselves so much, fans put you up so it's easy to take you down
@minbae6306
@minbae6306 2 ай бұрын
"foreigners are more sensitive to these problems " really?!🙄🙂🤨😑
@remuspierre7573
@remuspierre7573 2 ай бұрын
Amazing Information
@ariesaraya1822
@ariesaraya1822 3 ай бұрын
I think her lack of good music is the main problem. When she was in cube she had hits. Then it was a steady decline to whatever it is she's doing right now. If you have good music that's the focus. If you don't, your personal life becomes the focus. But her taste in men is horrible.
@Keithlynd_
@Keithlynd_ 3 ай бұрын
About the stage performance, I tend to lean on her physical condition. But really, her decision certainly generate backlash and she needs to be prepared. Ofc it's entirely on her about her personal relationship, but living in this world as human. Even for people not to her caliber, some decision in our life will eventually affect others'. Especially after such a huge issue
@fufufu_miuw
@fufufu_miuw 3 ай бұрын
I think she's just tired at this point, she wants to settle with her "chosen" partner and is willing to risk it all. Also the fact that she FULLY acknowledges both the scandal and the chain reaction effect of it, and then decides to ignore them really says a lot about her personality. If she tries to ignore us, then we have the right to do it too. She had her run, it's time to hang up the mic (hope she spends her time building herself to be a "normal" person)
@nikkolemora2447
@nikkolemora2447 3 ай бұрын
Its so hard to have an opinion bc celebrities are seen as role models and should act accordingly and do good things but at the end of the day theyre humans and they make mistakes. We fans sometimes will never know the full truth of things that happen there is peer pressure presure from the company or even pressure from themselves. But its very uncomfortable to see fans trying to control these idols and celebrities lives. Like either support their music or dont but you have no right to tell them how to live their life
@Jeskolady
@Jeskolady 3 ай бұрын
I don’t wanna jump into conclusions but i personally think hyuna may have been unfaithful to dawn because this makes no sense because she wasn’t ready to marry a man from a 6 year relationship but now she is ready to marry a man she only knew for a couple months? I speculate that Dawn didn’t want her public image to get even more ruined so they came up with these excuses. Again this is just my theory I’m not saying THIS happened.
@Melanie-jy2nw
@Melanie-jy2nw 2 ай бұрын
Not to defend hyuna but they knew each other for many years, did collabs and we’re known to be friends. She just started publicly dating him not long ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if she held a torch for him for a while though
@kimkimi4075
@kimkimi4075 2 ай бұрын
She has been in the industry for so long to not know that this is going to be your downfall, even if you don't care what people think this is the one you should care if you don't want to end you career. You shouldn't even date someone like him, is she not scared of being filmed without her knowing.
@bahngchanz
@bahngchanz 3 ай бұрын
Man I really loved hyuna.. 🫤
@NikkiGTA416
@NikkiGTA416 2 ай бұрын
Yes, at first it was her "I don't care what people think" attitude that made people like her, but in this instance, she has shown zero sympathy to the victims, said she didn't care as long as she's happy and just wants to focus on herself. Turns out she's actually a textbook narcissist.
@BTS13067ARMY
@BTS13067ARMY 3 ай бұрын
I am not DEFENFING Hyuna but why you all hate her and not that man.More is fault of that man then Hyuna
@34567right
@34567right 2 ай бұрын
My religion says that forgive others not because they deserve forgiveness but because you deserve peace But i think i would just ignore both party
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 3 ай бұрын
All I can say is I hope she’s happy. I don’t really care about her or her music/life. But she did it to herself. Hope this love is real. Maybe this guy changed and he really is just guilty by association or she’ll find out in three years what a mistake she made. Either way it’s too late but she’s set for life anyway
@MiravelleElaine
@MiravelleElaine 3 ай бұрын
Genuine question, too late for what exactly? You said yourself maybe she thinks in three years it was a mistake. Yeah like people can change their opinions. Too late for what? A career? As if that wouldn't be feasible? Assuming, for example everything turns out like people want, she divorces him, she sees what mistakes she made, maybe she even talks about how manipulative people like your loved ones can be and so on and so on. You think she can never have a career after that? Or refers your 'too late' to something different because genuine question because career wise she still has options. Maybe not in the spotlight but options in the media industry.
@persephonethequeenofunderw9670
@persephonethequeenofunderw9670 2 ай бұрын
I want to know whats so special about him? Because she put aside everything for him.
@victorskj
@victorskj 3 ай бұрын
Her last release under pnation is nabillera, not im not cool. Even nabillera failed to become a strong hit, so its normal that Q&A, produced by a way smaller company, failed to become a well known songs, though attitude as an album sold a lot of copies for her standars
@NeirinN
@NeirinN 2 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely so confused on WHY she would do this...and WHY she doesn't care. Like I only recently found out about the burning sun crime and omg. How could she just ignore all that and still date this man?? I'm a feminist myself and I could NEVERRRR date a man who engaged in a sex trafficking ring. Like that's disgusting. I hope Hyuna leaves him eventually... I really hope she apologizes too. This is so disappointing. Like... Not Hyuna.. 😞
@Jisooauda
@Jisooauda 3 ай бұрын
first, love you videos💗
@citizencr4o
@citizencr4o 3 ай бұрын
9:15 days 3, 4, and 5 kinda satisfying ngl
@rhiannajd4412
@rhiannajd4412 3 ай бұрын
Man, poor Dawn. He went through hell for her. I hope he’s in some state of recovery.
@AleinWonderland
@AleinWonderland 2 ай бұрын
I’ve loved Hyuna since 4minute and definitely have nostalgia for her. Look at it this way. She fell in love and stood up for that and was punished by cube (major overreaction in my opinion). She moved on, supported her partner, and struggle with P Nation that would not let her show her full potential. She then falls in love again and yes it’s controversial but we have 0 details of their personal lives and only have knowledge through media. I am not saying that burning sun was not horrifying and they should absolutely all pay, but we have no clue as to their personal lives. As for Dawn, if she didn’t want to marry him and fell in love with someone else, that is better than her marrying him for fans only. Finally, your happiness should not go above her own. It’s her life and she should be happy and not just make herself miserable so her fans are happy. She is literally doing her best as the world falls apart around her. Man fans are entitled these days.
@rosemariedarlo
@rosemariedarlo 3 ай бұрын
5:54 is this park bom? Right?!!!
3 ай бұрын
Yes
@casperopheliamoon
@casperopheliamoon 3 ай бұрын
I genuinely wouldve streamed Q&A nonstop if it werent for the dating scandal I think its good. If it werent for that i also think the spng wouldve done much better internationally i can see the song trending on tiktok.
@yoselinmosqueda5624
@yoselinmosqueda5624 3 ай бұрын
I have to disagree…everyone around me,including myself stopped supporting her because of her man. There is many idols who have openly stood up to the unfairness of the burning sun scandal and she’s openly ok with it. It’s gross
@pizzalord8859
@pizzalord8859 3 ай бұрын
'foreigners are more sensitive to these problems' those problems being literal crimes while knets start throwing up and crying when idols gain .002 pounds or do normal human being things.
@ItsMe_SaiYuri
@ItsMe_SaiYuri 3 ай бұрын
I normally wouldn't care less to idols i follow but girl.. your boyfriend/ fiance literally admit a crime he's just lucky enough sokor's justice system totally sucks and designed in favor of men.. I don't hate her at all, just a lil disappointed, i hope she won't fall as a victim in future
@fabios.7636
@fabios.7636 2 ай бұрын
As a very old and loyal fan of hers, this has been the most upsetting and frustrating kpop scandal ever. I just wish things had gone differently for her and all the supporters she had
@nikkonikkoni8264
@nikkonikkoni8264 3 ай бұрын
Here's her wedding guest list: Seungri, Jung Jun young, Choi Jong hoon😂😂😂😂 might as well add rapper SanE even tho he's not related to Burning Sun because he belongs to the same crowd🤮
@purplepotato1778
@purplepotato1778 2 ай бұрын
Well... She is an adult who can make decisions for herself, so she must be responsible and accept the consequences of the decisions she makes. Especially when the decision was taken consciously and without any coercion from anyone.
@kpopaddict760
@kpopaddict760 3 ай бұрын
@kookielit I wish there was a way to private message on KZbin, and a way to give emotion through text so as not to misunderstand. I have some advice/ a recommendation, but don't want you to take it the wrong way. I have seen a couple of your videos where you have mispronounced idol's names. I understand maybe Korean isn't your first language, or that maybe you don't speak it at all. But if you're going to have a channel focused solely on Korean news, I think it is important that you research how to pronounce their names. It is common curtesy to try to learn people's names, and in some cases, you may cause confusion between different artists who's names are actually pronounced that way. For example, "Sooyun/Suyoon" There can be someone with the name 수윤 (Su-yoon) or 수연 (Su-y-uh-n). Hyuna is pronounced "H-yuh-na" short "u" sound. This is just a suggestion. No hate, just constructive criticism. Please don't misinterpret or take as hate.
@gram7354
@gram7354 3 ай бұрын
the general consensus among knets seem to be that they're more disappointed than mad at Hyuna. Like a friend who devolved into an idiot who shamelessly defends her shitty boyfriend, and also having no consideration for her fellow idol ex bf. Which makes sense because she was really such a beloved idol
@souljourney60
@souljourney60 3 ай бұрын
Hyuna had been the face of women's empowerment for quite some time in South Korea so her choice of a man who didn't report the video of the the unsuspecting young women and commenting shows poor judgement. It was like a hypocritical punch in the face to all her fans and everything she stood for. Celebrities often get a sense of I can do no wrong and my fans will always be with me and take them for granted. She has pushed the boundaries for years and it has always worked in her favor, but this time she just pushed her fans too far. As far as the North American tour goes, those of us in North America, aren't even buying tickets for North American artists due to the economics. However, there are many other Kpop groups we would rather spend our hard earned money on. Hyuna hasn't really put out much music or changed her style to warrant a sold out concert truth be told.
@Sugas_Girr
@Sugas_Girr 3 ай бұрын
Stop spinning stuff. YJH was not directly involved with anything that happened with BS... Get your facts straight, stop lying, and go read all the actual court and police documents and statements. He opened 1 video that he didn't know what it contained and then commented on it. Nothing more. The only thing you can get mad at him for is maybe for not beating up JJY, I guess, to try and maybe convince him that sending it out to people was wrong (the woman in the video consented to being touched, and to it being filmed, but NOT to it being spread), because it certainly was not going to be handled by the police, since they wouldn't even do anything about it when JJY's ex reported him for FAR more serious crimes. I'm not a fan of YJH's either, but its not ok for you all just to keep lying about him in order to just stir up hate and animosity. Go direct that energy to the culptits who were actually doing the real awful things in this case, instead of the female fiancee of one of the bystanders.
@blahblahblahblah729
@blahblahblahblah729 3 ай бұрын
​@@Sugas_Girr Watching abuse against women being commited and NOT REPORTING IT, is NOT a simple mistake. He didn't need to confront him or beat him up, don't be dumb and obtuse. He could just have taken this evidence and gone to the police. Everyone knows men are taken much more seriously when they call out things like this, and coming from a famous person like him would have hold much more weight. What he did cannot be forgiven. It is said that it was CLEAR in the video that the girl didn't know she was being recorded. He SAW it, made comments, and DIDN'T report. He's a grown ass man and you shouldn't be here defending someone that deserves nothing but to be shunned. HyunA is someone that has been the face of female empowerment in South Korea for YEARS. And for YEARS she accepted it, and profited off her image of a female baddass that confronted SK standards for women. She deservers for people to stop supporting her fake image, as it is clear that it was only a way for her to make money, and that she isn't what she portraits her to be. A girl was violated, and she's dating a man who saw that, humiliated the girl in text and then proceeded to do nothing. He could very well have done what Goo Hara did, but instead he remained silent. Goes to show how much he and his supposed "feminist" fiancee care about women.
@Sugas_Girr
@Sugas_Girr 3 ай бұрын
@@blahblahblahblah729 There was NO abuse against any women in the video he watched! Who's being dumb and obtuse???!!! 😂😂😂 Get your facts straight and stop lying!!! 🙄
@Sugas_Girr
@Sugas_Girr 3 ай бұрын
@@HobanProduction It was filmed WITH consent, but she had not specifically consented to JJY sharing it with YJH. So, yes, what JJY did by sharing it is awful and a complete violation of her privacy 100%, but you can not really say from YJH's side, that YJH was "watching abuse", especially when it was a completely unsolicited video, that he had no idea of what it even contained when he received it, and when viewing it, what was filmed did not actually contain any crime (not explicit s acts, not s a, and not even hidden filming).
@Sugas_Girr
@Sugas_Girr 3 ай бұрын
And by the way, I'm not defending anybody here. I'm just saying to stop lying and making false statements. The facts are bad enough as they are, you don't need to exaggerate them and try to embellish the stories to make them sound even worse than they already are. Just state the truth and real facts, not your made up version to try and rile people up and incite more hate and animosity, in a desperate need for you to seek attention and likes on a false post.
@tonypolk8
@tonypolk8 2 ай бұрын
i will always love hyuna but its really sad to see she chose this person who pretty much goes against the idol she grew up to be.
@Mxtxloverr
@Mxtxloverr 2 ай бұрын
“A scandal” girl we’re talking about the 🍇pe of multiple women. What if that was your mother, sister, your friend
@Analou13
@Analou13 2 ай бұрын
With the censorship of yt im not surprised
@Jade-zt9td
@Jade-zt9td 2 ай бұрын
She's right tho her happiness is more important than the publics opinions
@jupiterenchantixpower
@jupiterenchantixpower 3 ай бұрын
She took her own song "I'm not cool" way to serious
@user-r1234t
@user-r1234t 2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ririslvt
@ririslvt 3 ай бұрын
i just feel bad for Dawn , i've always loved him
@miruzasri
@miruzasri 3 ай бұрын
Regardless of her scandal, I hope there won’t be any cyberbullying from the knetz, I don’t want the same case that happened to Sulli nor Goo Hara to happen again
@gracepicklebottom
@gracepicklebottom 3 ай бұрын
Too late
@lizethrivera5959
@lizethrivera5959 2 ай бұрын
that’s what im also thinking, specially because people always blame women but men don’t seem to receive same hate
@miruzasri
@miruzasri 2 ай бұрын
@@lizethrivera5959 honestly reminds me what stephanie said, “one many big mistake of man is equal to one mistake of woman”, (rephrased)
@exploringmyself5367
@exploringmyself5367 2 ай бұрын
​in which vdo did she say this@@miruzasri
@ChocoBabiChan
@ChocoBabiChan 2 ай бұрын
Im just glad she and (pasty vampire boy) AKA, Dawn, are no longer together. That relationship was weird.
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