Kool Moe Dee vs Busy Bee Starski Dec 1981 Harlem World

Kool Moe Dee vs Busy Bee Starski Dec 1981 Harlem World
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[@hinkali_v_chetverg]

удивительно, если бы не скиллз я бы никогда не узнала о настолько важном моменте истории музыки

[@timurpavlov5659]

не думал, что девушкам интересен хип-хоп

[@hinkali_v_chetverg]

@@timurpavlov5659 не думала что фанатам хип-хопа интересны девушки

[@arturmiroshnichenko-je5oi]

Ta je huinya, bratan Blya, tochnee sestra

[@mafiaonline7132]

​@@hinkali_v_chetverg поэтому у тебя 2 отца

[@Oguzok_da]

Тоже от скиллза пришел

[@user-zr1mf9fo8n]

Ты же тоже тут от Скиллза?)

[@user-mt9gw7or4n]

Да

[@glassirok]

Угу

[@thechaz83]

As soon as Kool Moe Dee rapped at 9:52 the old walls crumbled, and a new era existed. You feel it’s power in your bones

[@friendswitdadealer]

This is so incredibly iconic. We're literally listening to the ushering in of a new age in Hip Hop. Busy Bee literally didn't know what hit him at all. Kool Moe Dee was young and ferocious in this battle. In the late 70s there were a group of kids that were ready to get the shouting chants era of Hip Hop the fuck outta here and get down on some serious wordplay. Amazing piece of American history.

[@authorless]

It is rare when you can pinpoint an exact moment a shift like this happens. To have it recorded and to hear it actually happen is wild.

[@BeelySalasBlair-uy5wn]

❤❤

[@angelmontoya4894]

Llenemos los comentarios con ESPAÑOL como tributo a HBD

[@gabrielcarrion890]

Pensé que era el único jaja

[@coquitopro1234]

Quiero ver el primer tongo de la historia :y

[@johnpaulofontenlaguzman441]

@@coquitopro1234 pero fue en la otra batalla de fantastic five

[@dalexmedina583]

Aquí estamos 🙌 y seguiremos

[@wampool9919]

yes

[@Sebar_100]

9:58 is where I realized for the first time I questioned who really pioneered the rhyme pattern. Don't get me wrong, Rakim and Kool G Rap who are truly the best to ever do it changed the way rappers rapped later on. But we can't ignore what Kool Moe Dee did in 1981. Again, this was 1981!! and he had a rhyme pattern that even the crowd was stunned and didn't know how to react to because they had never heard something like that. No, he's not the best-selling rapper or a household name, but I think Kool Moe Dee deserves his flowers!

[@younggod3906]

Facts

[@DerrickWright-uz5or]

hes one of the best rappers in general i dont care about record sells etc etc

[@tristanmanners3560]

That’s crazy I listened to Starski then skipped ahead to when Kool Moe Dee started rapping I thought it was a different event

[@GuyRBrewer109]

I've told people for years! I had this tape when I was young, we all did. That's where the 2,3 word combinations back to back came from, Cool Moe Dee. Be fore, it was a longer space beteen ryhming words. What else I remeber from that time, I was 11-12, Spoonie G was a lyrical God. You hear Moe Dee mention him in this rhyme against Busy B. I still vividly remember how Spoonie's pattern were coopted also. Go listen to his songs on KZbin now. The early rappers never really gave him credit. I've never seen him at Awards Shows or none of that. But I remeber, Spoonie G wasn't a game. TLA Rock either RIP, he died early, 1985

[@dobcrypto9127]

Действительно, Kool Moe Dee навалил душевно 🙂

[@hinkali_v_chetverg]

да и бизи би совсем неплох, учитывая что это начало 80ых

[@user-dm9ek8ml1b]

Разъебал. С 9:50 вообще пиздец

[@staskovtun3538]

Согласен

[@FunkAddict]

@@hinkali_v_chetvergничего, кроме «не вижу ваши ручки, повторяем за мной» он не выдал

[@hinkali_v_chetverg]

@@FunkAddict ну а в то время кроме "ребят я говорю йо вы говорите йе" особо ничего и не было. для ТОГО времени это был вполне хороший парт (но вообще с оппонентом несравнимо)

[@scottwatson3267]

I was at that battle, Greatest moment, historic, legendary , best times for hip hop, the start of the map that lead to today's music and battles, made you realize, NEVER bring a MC to a RAP battle.

[@FrenchJae]

You old as hell nicca

[@crazyhiphopp]

Damn wish someone got footage of the show you lucky

[@MarlonD805]

Would u mind if I interview you for my podcast about it?

[@micdneromusic]

That’s DOPE !

[@Charlie-yu9ce]

Bro this is damn near unbelievable for 1981 freestyling at the end. We need these type of rappers today. Way ahead of his time

[@rsantiagortct]

On that night Moe Dee effectively ended the era of the hype man MC .....and doesn’t get the credit he deserves

[@s19up16re5me5]

Classic battle! I was at Harlem World this night...Moe D changed the way emcees battled after this joint!

[@galept]

I feel this battle changed everything. Hip hop began to sound different soon after this.

[@MaggieKoerth-Baker]

It’s so seldom you get to hear a paradigm shift fucking live as it was happening. It’s wild. Almost haunting. Busy Bee didn’t just bring a knife to a gun fight. It’s more like no one knew what a gun fight was yet, and then KMD walked in with an uzi.

[@imposter2565]

Пацаны, кто от Скиллза?)

[@madvlaydin]

все на месте спортсмены

[@jasonrannells3439]

Best part is when Kool Moe Dee speeds up and you can hear the host go "oh shit!"

[@smavi4133]

9:58 10:07 and 10:34 while the rest is years ahead, these are the part where he gets several decades ahead of the state of the art

[@hypercumstone44]

7:03 where the rap of Moe dee begins

[@pbee73]

Whoever restored this has studio skills!

[@MarlonD805]

I love how this audio was preserved all through these years man..this is the turning point of MCing

[@DBMoshua]

I can't believe its been almost 50 years since this event. I hung out at Harlem World frequently and I had this tape as well. Crazy because I remember listening to this tape and dancing with Sandy D in my room. She was in highschool then and later on would become one of hip hops iconic female rappers. Peppa from Salt and Peppa.

[@ransom6892]

It’s weird how Wikipedia doesn’t even know her birth year. It says “1964 or 1969”

[@JSki-jn5vj]

1981

[@oghokage347]

Kool Moe Dee даже сейчас свежо звучит .Особенно как он под скречинг ,фрестайл заебашл

[@lethalingection67]

9:58 Kool Moe Dee is Down By Law spitting fire lyrics called breath control!!!! Nobody else did it better only KMD!

[@lopony7944]

Murdered that shyt

[@boogiedownnyc]

Imagine being in the crowd. This was unheard of

[@williamgardner3215]

Nearly a decade later he took LLCoolJ out with singles on wax For one that song how you like me now.

[@flowersofparadise8801]

@@boogiedownnyc Something supernatural and unreal im sure

[@B.Love2]

Whomever is puttin up this Tape Deck Wreck should be paid for it. Important history that we never would’ve seen on the TV is what was on those tapes.

[@raysantos9069]

My boy had this back in early 82, we played the hell out of this track. HIP HOP HISTORY!

[@calvinhaynes3349]

The Treacherous Three. Incredible. And they did that in one take! The rhythmic scratches when they sped up is flawless. Who ever saw that in real time was a part of history and didn’t even realize it at the time. Shout out also to Busy Bee Starski.

[@smile-youself-777]

Кто с канала Скиллз впервые узнал об этом?

[@theNerve_theAudacity]

It can't be that this one and the Cold Crush are the only two tapes to see the light of day. Still looking for that clip where the DJ was playing "bohemian Rhapsody", and the MC yelled: "Turn that shit off, man!…"

[@suave_d]

I spoke to a reputable historian (Jay Quan) about this battle. He spoke to Moe Dee about this battle, and it was said that Moe Dee regretted how he came at Busy Bee because he felt like he ambushed him. Of course, I understand that prior to this battle, the "old" way of competing was each act getting on stage and performing one at a time (without dissing each other), and the crowd ultimately decided who won. In the true sense of battling (at that time), technically Moe Dee went against the grain, so I can understand him feeling bad about what he did to Busy Bee. What Moe Dee did could probably better be described as "snapping" or "roasting." Still, he brought a new element to battle rap that is still utilized nearly 40 years later. But in my personal opinion, I don't have a problem with what Moe Dee did. In a battle, the goal is to win, and sometimes, you may have to do something unconventional to gain a competitive advantage over your opponent.

[@johernandez7179]

suaved wow! That’s so cool to know! Thanks! Yo did you trip out when he was saying “ chill out chill out, chil chil chil out” at the end!!? Yo!! He literally did what djs do when they sample someone’s vocals! He was trying to do the scratch effect with it!! Yo!!!!

[@friendswitdadealer]

Peace to JayQuan. The greatest Hip Hop historian/scholar in the world.

[@ComboBreakerHD]

He only felt bad so far as he knew that this was a new style of battling. It was his confidence. This Christmas Rappers Conventiom at Harlem World goes on for weeks, KMD was going around telling people to watch how he was going to floor Busy Bee. That's coming from Chuck D.

[@williamgardner3215]

Now in the early 90's he would have destroyed both Tupac,Biggie Smalls. Also Ice Cube easily. The only problems he will have is against Mellie Mel of Furious Five, and of course a tight battle will be against KRS-1 this very day Live on stage. A few years later Busy Bee nearly could not handle a young teenage girl by the name of Roxanne Shante which wasn't a easy victory at all in front of judges such as Red Alert. Actually back in the 1980s at the Rooftop skating rink in Harlem I witness Big Daddy Kane destroy some want to be who never made it with dissing rhyme off the top of his head,and ended it by tossing a subway token at that individual.

[@TapeDeckWreck]

That's true. I remember Jayquan posting a comment from the ORIGINAL NY Tape Man Troy Smith where he commented that Busy Bee was caught off guard in Busy Bee's defense. Kool Moe Dee did come HARD though. Much like reggae, many of the 70's MC's could not adapt to the newer style. People had lyrics in the 80's, no more cocaine fueled Disco chat.

[@henrysmifth536]

Can I dub this I'll bring it back to school in the morning I promise 🤣🤣🤣 Who else told this lie 🙋🏾‍♂️

[@user-yp4xf5pz4r]

Кто от Скиллза, ставь класс

[@user-my7ud6kp1r]

спасибо скиллз за такой подгон, с 9:58 валит как пулемёт

[@micdneromusic]

Damn! This is as CLASSIC as it can get. You have to have been old enough, in the hip hop game as a performer or fan to even comprehend this. I remember it well. Moe Dee made his move to get that acclaimed “Mc. Battle King” of that era.

[@lucabrasi4709]

Classic battle , COOL MOE DEE changed the game after this

[@eternalyfeful]

Kool...not Cool.

[@aynfedo27]

This is ground zero. The moment that changed everything.

[@scottwatson3267]

1st real battle ever, CLASSIC

[@ajjoyner1909]

My brother bought this tape home when I was a grasshopper

[@mikelugo8983]

facts I'm 57 today rember this like yesterday enjoy enjoyvBronx Love 183

[@GloTown]

This shit is DOPE to look back on this is legendary FRFR!

[@discokitten5325]

Holy damn this is clear. I remade the beat, maybe i'll use this for vocals instead of what ive already got

[@realmczappa]

@Joe Mama Treacherous Three - Heartbeat

[@katimagibson8831]

Kool Moe Dee killed it. I still know this rap by heart!!

[@user-pt5jn9pm3w]

под конец всё сразу и видно

[@scottdaly6926]

You KNOW its sick when you alone on ya bed swinging ya fist in the air!!!

[@Joker-Leto]

Broski...... i was at this jam ... darn. bro... you made be go so back in time..

[@galept]

You were there when hip hop changed forever? It all started sounding different after this.

[@Joker-Leto]

​@@galept Hip Hop started to change when RUN DMC got popular over the addida's lucky brake.. as you will notice their beats are not use in any dubbing or remake of any hip hop rapping. The west coast did take Sponnie Gee's beat and ganster style, west cost hated Run DMC, Then after RUN DMC the following generation started to monetized from hip hop, even tried coming out with own beat and drug dealer style nothing to do with hip hop cuture that only deterriorated HipHop such as MIGOS did, then recording studios got involved and when natural talent dried out, they started inventing technogy to alterate voice over and pattern beats.. just look at Fake Drake, a candian who is not a Hip Hop orgina,l just some rich kid sponsored by family, similar case of a Vanilla ice and Milli Vanilli, sugar hill gang.

[@samkelomsimango6109]

Before the music industry ruined Hiphop.Priceless🙌🏾✊🏿👏🏿

[@workdirty1]

Thank You so much not just for me but all that follow....for uploading this... another copy of the beginning forever here to be found by those looking #salute

[@joelcastillo3281]

Aquí estoy . Desde Panamá aprovechando la cuarenta para saber más de lo q me encnta. (Love rap)

[@lopony7944]

MIND BLOWN IN 2020 AT 9:58

[@justlooking1087]

Yooooo I went so crazy!!! I wish I was there to see how everyone reacted.

[@shyorts]

кто от Скиллза?

[@yakamann334]

Flow so ahead of it's time

[@arbestologein]

6:26

[@cbreeze5279]

I just referenced this marical night to a friend regarding the beginning of Batlle Rap...miss those days and Harlem World. The Golden Age of Hip Hop!

[@FunkAddict]

9:55 it’s nothing but the epitaph for the late party rap, that was passing away at that very moment

[@javiernarvaez3725]

Quien esta aqui por HBD!!!

[@0netyr]

I got this repeat for the new year 1981 to 2022 peace to the gods HARLEM

[@mckinleyrichard4395]

I only know about this because of the beasties, so after decades of wanting to hear this, high AF, I think to myself , I bet that’s on KZbin and sure enough... I’m floored, this sounds amazing and KMD is vicious on the mic, like, I had no idea it was gonna be that sick.

[@Cashmere.Kufi_88]

Moe Dee had me putting him back in my top 10 all time

[@paulreuben7343]

Classic ...love both styles

[@manichispanic999]

This is incredible

[@jasonhunter6125]

would be cooler if that video showed the tape reel rolling;)

[@josemiguer5493]

esta batalla tiene mejor audio que fms mexico :v

[@cristiantapia8361]

Si mejor q la fms mexico v:

[@TapeDeckWreck]

Hablo Espanol. Yo tengo milles de shows y cassetes de los 70s y 80s. Como me comunico con la gente de HBD?

[@cristiantapia8361]

@@TapeDeckWreck Instagram pa !...

[@lopony7944]

At 9:58 They should have scratched through the whole part like that part in ATCQ Stir it up/Steve Biko when Qtip said something about "opinions are like voices... we all have a different kind..."

[@chiefeaglespiritdancing9624]

I remember when the treacherous 3 came to the valley in haffen park up in the north east Bronx in 1982. It was 🔥

[@JLJ504HD]

*_QOTD (Question Of The Day):_* Did Harlem World become a National Landmark yet?

[@bxgp228]

I was stationed in Ft. Riley Kanas when they this at Harlem World, when I came home to the Bronx and got the tape I popped it I played it do much

[@kokocyka3131]

спасибо скиллзу, получается

[@6jonasito]

Kool Moe Dee killed it 🧟‍♂️🔥

[@uwu3798]

9:58 from this moment my jaw had crushed a floor

[@shot_gumm5016]

Кайф, респект скиллзу))

[@GSmashGaming]

This is seriously cool. Now I know the history of the rap battle. I actually participated in one last year. Made it to fourth place out of eight battlers

[@astterry3427]

Скиллз, я тебя люблю

[@albertodouglas4258]

Kool Moe Dee is a genius

[@adolfc8835]

like los que vengan por HBD y sus 2 millones de sus

[@TapeDeckWreck]

Hablo Espanol. Yo tengo milles de shows y cassetes de los 70s y 80s. Como me comunico con la gente de HBD?

[@johnpaulofontenlaguzman441]

@@TapeDeckWreck y es que hbd es alguien que comparte mucho de del rap, en todo su género. En una oportunidad hizo un vídeo donde hablaba de la primera batalla de rap. Es por eso que muchos lo mencionan en tu vídeo. Saludos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaG2hGWHqL6hb6s

[@TapeDeckWreck]

@@johnpaulofontenlaguzman441 Mucho respecto por el apollo. Voy a comunicarme. gracias. aver si asi podiamos hacer mas cosas

[@johnpaulofontenlaguzman441]

@@TapeDeckWreck i'm happy to have helped.

[@vintagehaze7358]

I remember recording this from a NYU radio show 3am in bed under the covers with my dual cassette radio a flashlight and headphones I

[@srkooper5456]

Hello

[@srkooper5456]

Hello

[@vintagehaze7358]

What up

[@vintagehaze7358]

@@srkooper5456 what up

[@Charlie-yu9ce]

Kool mo dee is the fist fast rapper before bone thugs and twista! #Facts!

[@henrysmifth536]

Hip hop don't stop

[@jesustamayo1666]

Alguien que haga una traducción en español? Like si vienes por HBD.

[@paperface6567]

Rifatela

[@TapeDeckWreck]

Hablo Espanol. Yo tengo milles de shows y cassetes de los 70s y 80s. Como me comunico con la gente de HBD?

[@sam886ob8]

@@TapeDeckWreck HBD ES un canal del KZbin en español, puedo ayudarte a comunicarte con el por Instagram

[@patricioestrella5343]

@@TapeDeckWreck Buscalo en YT como Detodoyrap

[@MrFace]

Imagine bodying some dude and still losing the trophy due to everyone not knowing what the fuck just down

[@horrorflikmusickofficialyo1014]

One of the legendary battles.Moe killed him.Love this classic shit.

[@trevorhembrough1290]

40 years old tonight

[@jeremiahsartworld2980]

Damn memories 1981

[@Disco_Breakin]

Got an A from Moe Dee for sticking to themes

[@etiennekosa]

Beasties sampled this on multiple songs

[@henryalexander5237]

HBD

[@mr.incredible5852]

I was 8 when that came out and that was the best rap I've ever heard.

[@bxgp228]

LA Sunshine was a crazy hype man on this one of the first besides JDL of Cold Crush

[@j-new6278]

I was listening to "Root Down" Beastie Boys and Mike D name checks this battle in his verse, that's how I came here. D's got a great verse in that song. Glad I came, the party after this battle was not the same ;)

[@Kadeemtheking]

This man rocked the crowd and busy bee starski 😂😂😂😂😂😂💯🔥🔥

[@duardk6364]

Lo sé bro, vienes por hbd

[@TapeDeckWreck]

Hablo Espanol. Yo tengo milles de shows y cassetes de los 70s y 80s. Como me comunico con la gente de HBD?

[@moecraze3277]

Tla rock and special k my og’s I remember this like yesterday

[@isayasbashiri5371]

The first recorded battle rap ever.

[@antonewilson4310]

Sounded like a frickin machine gun.

[@mrmartywaring]

Moe Dee's first two bars ended Busy Bee!

[@Dr.Dave718]

HipHop in most Organic form🎙💯🔥💎

[@erikmolnar6585]

"Koo Moe Dee vs. Busy Bee, that's one you should know"

[@DavidR-ub2dp]

Mo Dee killed it

[@mhermiz11]

Mo Deee “if you where money you would be counterfeit. “ beetcchhhhh

[@andreevega8772]

HBD 🔥

[@axilmar254]

Busy Bee was destroyed 100%. One of the worst demolitions of a rapper that has ever been witnessed.

[@DJB635]

Kool Moe Dee....The Created speed rap with the treacherous 3....Then after that it became tongue twisting...ie.. Twista....To what these new jacks do today...Know the history !

[@angelquispesolis3566]

HBD gracias por traerme a esta reliquia !

[@lirikgood]

Quien viene por. HBD x1

[@sanfreestyleandgame378]

Hay gran video

[@OSITO4769]

HBD me mando 🤘🏼

[@fernandoorozco3751]

Nuff respect to the originator Busy Bee, but Kool Mo Dee killed that shit. I think it should be mandatory for the newjacks coming up these days to listen to this. They need to know their history and see where it all came from.

[@D-Yung]

Busy basically warmed up the mic for him 🤣