Korean Men Hype: Fetishization vs. Actually Attractive? | KPC | EP.29

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Autogenerated Chapters (may not be accurate):
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Episode Teaser
00:02:02 - Intro to Jason and Joe
00:04:04 - Hype for Korean Guys in Europe
00:05:59 - Rising Demand for Korean Products and Content
00:07:48 - The Fetishization of Asian Women
00:09:39 - Are Korean Men Different?
00:11:32 - The Namchin Look: Soft Boy Fashion in Korea
00:13:27 - Korean guys and their hair care
00:15:08 - Korean Skincare and Makeup Trends
00:16:52 - The Battle of Masculinity and Attraction
00:18:37 - Korean Guys: Fantasies and Realities
00:20:31 - Sweet and Toxic Behavior of Korean Guys
00:22:20 - Carrying Heavy Bags for Women
00:24:06 - Traditions of Korean Men
00:25:47 - Seating Etiquette on Dates
00:27:20 - Differences in Dating Cultures
00:29:09 - Obsessive Behavior in Korean Culture
00:30:57 - Trust and Boundaries
00:32:40 - The Shocking Side of Korean Guys
00:34:25 - Fetishization of Korean Men
00:36:17 - Delusions of Dating K-pop Idols
00:38:01 - Preferences versus Fetishization
00:39:49 - Dating Apps and Match Influx
00:41:43 - Experiences of Being Approached by Different Ethnicities
00:43:41 - Perspectives on Korean Men
00:45:22 - The Future of K-Culture
00:47:07 - Korean Population downfall & outro

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[@elizabeth3230]

As the k-wave spreads across the world, it’s similar to how the rest of the world used to view the western culture. People thought everyone in America was like a Hollywood star.

[@propertymanager9149]

dont remember American men getting this much hate at the same time lol

[@rajdipbiswas9310]

Now they look like discord burger munchers

[@baddie21358]

Not at all Nobody likes bleached men with fake blond hair

[@baddie21358]

​@@propertymanager9149not at all Nobody in the West likes Korean or asian men

[@StyleswithCourtney]

99% of white women can't tell Koreans from Chinese

[@noniboo1521]

Kpop driven absolutely. It is a good thing because it has opened the door for Asian men to be noticed by women of all races globally.

[@baddie21358]

Asian men are still the lowest because this stuff is fake

[@LisaCutie409]

No

[@phylicia595]

Not Asian men Too many of them in the world

[@user-jx5jr5fd5x]

What is certain is that Western media will continue to focus on underrepresenting Asian men. It is a positive implication that people around the world have realized that Asians can take on ‘normal roles’ thanks to the popularity of k media.

[@user-jx5jr5fd5x]

However, the number of Westerners who hate Korea has increased recently. They seem to be trying to demonize Korea these days.

[@kebbiew.8359]

Me watching 'Queen of tears' with Vincenzo carrying the female lead's tiny handbag🤣🤣

[@loisstrang1165]

I don’t think you were ever nobody’s its just here in Australia we never heard anything about Korea, so if you don’t hear or see anything you tend not to pay attention, but now with BTS, and K Drama your becoming more noticed as a country which is a great thing. China is getting well known because of Jackson wang, I’m all for it lets see more unity between races ❤

[@baddie21358]

BTS is old Also Asian men here in America aren't liked All bleachers

[@phylicia595]

Korean women love blond hair blue eyes

[@justme.11]

Yes to us all seeing each other as human and seeing beyond race.

[@julianasilva6946]

​@@baddie21358 lol cope

[@baddie21358]

@@julianasilva6946 ricecel

[@SikfanKitchen]

I love that Jason is on here!!! I miss his humor, he should start his own KZbin channel to document his new life in Korea 😄

[@derekjohnson4348]

I don't drink alcohol, but a great drinking game would be everyone takes a drink every time Anna touches her hair

[@thechieffect]

If nothing else, enjoy the positive vibes of the k-wave. Hopefully it’s more good influences than bad.

[@baddie21358]

Just more love for white skin people like me

[@davidh7832]

From when I first took a korean language class in university, as a Latino American, I was thrown off with how many girls were in my summer classes like 5 years ago. I didn’t know how popular kpop was at that time, to where like 95% of the class was taking beginner korean because they loved the male singers and dancers from these music videos. I still take language classes to this day, and yup, still have plenty of girls who really fantasize the male musicians. It was the same when I visited Seoul for the first time as well (even on the plane ride, they showed videos on how to put on your air bag as a mask while male musicians showed you how to do it). I was surprised to see a lot of female travelers who were there mainly because they were fans of male music artists. And that’s the nature of music too obviously, which brings people together even if you don’t know the language. But from where I am from, my korean american guy friends mostly just want to date within their own culture. I don’t really see them dating out from their own, like at all. And of course media will show the positives and ignore some negatives, and this is pretty much for all cultures. I’ve met korean Americans who were nice, some who were outright jerks, and some who were just indifferent about being friends; so basically, like all other guys. A girl friend of mine who is korean american as well was telling me, as we shared ice cream, that she finds it crazy how the new craze pretty much uplifted the Korean culture to where more people appreciate it because when she was growing up, people have told her that they don’t know where south korea even is on a map. So after noticing all this, I guess if south korea didn’t have the music and kdramas, there may have for sure been less interest in its culture and less travelers because most of the non-koreans I’ve met were definitely interested in the music and somewhat with the films. All just my experiences. And I got interested in the language mainly because of personal korean american friends from school and a famous linguist on KZbin who passed away, laoshu505000. I didn’t get into some of the music until well later due to my female friends liking it a lot and always talking about it in every language class 😂

[@baddie21358]

All bs In California 25% of Korean women date out and 3% of Korean men

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Nobody in America likes Korean anything

[@phylicia595]

Cap

[@baddie21358]

Fake I live in Cali nobody likes Asian men

[@HoodQueen258]

Korean Asian men aren't liked

[@yerangmukja]

Thanks for having me on! -Joe

[@koreanpizzaclub]

Thanks again for being on the pod🙏🙏🙏

[@star2like261]

Hope we see you again. I enjoyed listening to you and I think you could bring a different perspective to some of the other conversations going forward.

[@111kym]

It was a great mix of contributors. One of the best shows! Be very well.

[@cventer838]

I think, as a Westener, people like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, and movies like Karate Kid put Asian on the map. We all associate Asia with taekwando and martial arts. If you are into sports, you start to enjoy that sinario. Concerning kdrama, it's most definitely evident that it is much more conservative than Hollywood, and that's what draws some of us. Finding out about another culture is interesting most of us. Of course, tall men are beautiful. I married one without the intention of looking at a tall person because I'm quite short. A lot of kdrama topics are rather brutal, especially over real-life crime cases or sinarios. The law system and cultural issues are eye-opener. It's still a very culturally bound nation, which isn't a bad thing. Socio-economic issues are always interesting. You have a bit of appreciation for the things that might happen a bit better in your own culture or country. It seems like a really tough education system you have, social ranking, issues around having children, etc. The grass is never greener on the other side, but I prefer Western culture. ❤ I'm still a huge fan of Bruce Lee. I think we associate Korea with discipline and high standards. The majority of South Africans would love that because we are also very competative and driven. Concerning the looks topic, it's not bad, but sometimes a bit feminine, the flowerboy look. Perhaps it would appeal to the younger generations. And the make-up topic, it's not something we get used to easily! Pardon my honesty! Men all over the world think they are a hot commodity! It's a man thing. 😂 I think men are the same all over the world. Men from the Netherlands are the tallest by Western standards. We have a lot of tall men in SA. My hubby is 1.88 but small next to other men. I think we have giants over here. My son is also quite tall, but amongst other Afrikaans men at Uni, he sais he's not tall at all... we're used to tall. It remains beautiful on any standard. My youngest doesn't need a perm, his hair is naturally very curley. Self care is wonderful. Most South-African men are rugged and they love their beards! There's different fashions over here... khaki, bush wear... 😅 Rugby, bear and Bushveld. Look I have to laugh. Speaking out of the house, SA men are all mucho on the outside, manly, and burley, but they are like giant puppies at home, cry easily, and are open about their emotions. My hubby is a gentle giant and has been spoiling me for 27 years. They definitely dont want to look vulnerable to the outside world. I'm lucky to have a good husband, who is a good parent too. I can't speak for other people, but my life is pretty fine down here in the South of Africa.

[@mitzkt1679]

31:00 Trust is key. Even if your partner is very beautiful/handsome...It doesn't matter who wants them as long as they want you.

[@slavvalb3933]

So relaxing to watch every episode. Always 😊 when I see our heros , Anna and David 🏆

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[@belindaclarke7803]

I enjoy your wide range of Topics keep them coming 😊

[@vikkiekuponiyi]

A very interesting topic for sure, especially if you look at it through the lens of global media. Many ethnic groups and genders within these groups have somewhat been fetishized - often due to global media circulation and the image and portrayals of these people. We often see it with black men and women being oversexualised due to stereotypes and their image in the media with the popularity or sexualisation of black bodies for example - black women often perceived as hypersexual and their bodies often being oversexualised in comparison to women of other ethnicities. You also see it with east and south east Asian women being infantilised by western media leading to people holding ordinary people to these standards which I believe can be very damaging and affect the dating experience's these women have with men outside of their cultural communities. For example - the classic old white man with a questionable face marrying an alarmingly younger Asian woman. Depending on the reason for the preference people have for people outside of their ethnic groups can be both negative or positive depending on how you look at it. For example - "Korean men are gentlemen" - at first you can see this as "Oh, that's a nice thing to say. Obviously that's a good thing" but on the contrary it could lead to an increased pressure on Korean men to uphold these standards, some of which may be believed to be extremely unrealistic and not feasible to the average man (like being a chaebol successor haha). It also makes you thing "So are white, black and other Asian men not also gentlemen?" which of course isn't true but due to the portrayal of Korean men in the media and the hype of the Korean Wave/Hallyu - Korean men's "gentlemenness" will be hyper romanticised and idolised above those of other ethnic groups. Anyway, that's my think piece haha thanks for reading if you made it to the end :). I'm a masters student conducting research on the influence Korean media has on the lifestyle choices, practices and standards of its non-Korean/foreign fans so this episode was really interesting to me :))))

[@baddie21358]

Korean men dye their hair blond and bleach their skin

[@LisaCutie409]

No white woman can tell Korean from Chinese

[@phylicia595]

No woman likes asians

[@baddie21358]

Nobody likes Asian men

[@HoodQueen258]

Asian men aren't liked White men are

[@katieguid2005]

Great discussion with a great panel as always! ❤

[@phylicia595]

Asian men are fake White men are real in looks

[@baddie21358]

Asian men aren't hot

[@phylicia595]

Korean women love white men

[@SylvesrerSam]

Korean women fetish white men a lot

[@IshtarNike]

I think the question of wether its a fetish is being answered in the comments. Lots of people who have watched Asian dramas thinking its an accurate depiction of regular people from those countries. Also, to address the comments about people being "more respectful" I think that's one of those things where it's kind of true but balanced out by other things. They're more traditionally conservative which comes with better outward manners, but that often means they might have different views on other topics at least compared to Euro-Americans. Not to bash Korea but there's a reason they're 100 and more places down the list when it comes to gender equality and that's going to be reflected in relationships. In fact that's part of the fertility crisis issue if I'm not mistaken. So anyway, it just sounds like people are getting sucked in by media hype. People are people the world over. Barring physical attraction, it's probably not a good idea to idolise one group of men/women because they're individuals not stereotypes. But even more importantly, the media will never portray them accurately so you can't learn anything about them from TV shows. It reminds me of talking to my Chinese friends about British men (white guys of course) and how nothing they learned from TV was accurate.

[@baddie21358]

Korean women love white men

[@phylicia595]

White men are a fetish in Korea Korean men aren't fetishes in America

[@maya_jones3411]

If someone makes a mass generalisation of an entire group or country of people based on some TV shows or movies then they are not very intelligent lmao.

[@monavalentin2540]

Joe Park is a gentleman 👍

[@alperry02]

Joe is so reasonable and balanced

[@RensMusic247]

I only got into Kpop and Kdrama a couple of years ago, but I have always found asian men attractive. Not just physically, but they just seem to be so sweet and respectful. I love that. So different from the macho men types that think they are God's gift to women. I also love how they take care of themselves and take pride in the way they look.

[@StyleswithCourtney]

No woman likes Asian men

[@LisaCutie409]

Asian men are ricecels

[@phylicia595]

Asian men aren't hot

[@baddie21358]

Asian men aren't it

[@phylicia595]

Korean women fetish blue eyes and pale skin

[@aladybug4281]

I'm here for the K Wave as long as I can access the content! Love it more and more every day!

[@baddie21358]

Small eyes

[@SylvesrerSam]

Tiny eyes Tiny cox

[@phylicia595]

Ricecel

[@AyanAli-py7ci]

What wave?

[@ghhhggrtes-rx1gx]

Lol this Pakistani incel with his burner accounts

[@phyllo2694]

BTS fan , several years ago was in Target and saw Asian guy from the side proceeded to follow him until he turned around and I saw his collar. He was a priest, had to have a long talk with God that day. Guy(Priest)was sooooo cute💜

[@me9lovin]

Haha oh hi Jason 😆 was surprised to see ya on my feed

[@cspel002]

I'm black American and in 2007 i was the only one i knew who had an Asian bf. I dated cuz i liked him as a person. But now a days its a desirable thing to want asian guys because of maybe "fantasy" reasons. Its kinda weird to me lol.

[@SylvesrerSam]

Asian men are incels

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Ricecel

[@phylicia595]

Ew Asian small eyes small size

[@Billdean25]

Ew Asian men

[@ghhhggrtes-rx1gx]

All the comments above mentioned are from the same guy who made multiple alt accounts btw

[@rackyshak]

Anna was stirring the pot this whole video 😂 You are each so funny. I agree that Korean men will be desired as long as k-culture is rolling… The world population’s taste swings slowly on the pendulum of change, so I imagine this will continue for some time. As people recognize interesting and eye-catching things like kpop/kdrama/etc, they become popular and gain momentum. However, as these become more popular and are consumed at a massive scale, they eventually and gradually fall out of style. (I believe that we will see the pendulum of change swinging farther away from Western culture (maybe American culture specifically?) and towards other cultures, definitely including Korean.) Who knows what the future holds, but there are many wonderful aspects of Korean culture that have globally come to light that really attract people to it. Women aren’t accustomed to the ideal behavior of male leads in kdramas or kpop idols’ gentlemanliness on social media. Those good soft/boy vibes. I think it’s natural to want that, but some people absolutely go overboard with projecting their expectations on the average Korean person :/ Boy, was this long-winded

[@elisabeth73]

Honestly, I think it's a bit overhyped about korean men. If you look at the average man, I'd say they don't seem to be at all as the new standard of makeup, style etc. So I agree with 5:02. It's more a contemporary hype. All ethnicity have superhandsome men, men who are well-groomed or are obviously rich enough to have surgeries and afford nice clothes. But. Is it really important? Be yourself men!! ❤❤❤

[@baddie21358]

White men look the most natural handsome

[@Please_Chill]

Well said!!

[@krystavi05]

​@@baddie21358 To you! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and attractiveness is completely subjective and always will be. Yes, there may be trends, but for overall humanity we all like different things... which is a GOOD thing 😅

[@maya_jones3411]

@@baddie21358White men are not the most handsome lmao. *NO* race has ‘the most handsome’ anybodies, most people in all races are average looking.

[@shagssss199]

Idk about Korean men BUT Korean stuff like fashion,food,skin care, makeup are deffo worth the hype. The moment I started using Korean skin care. I feel like I couldn’t go back to any other random skin care products. And FOOOOD. You willl keep craving for some good, Korean food once you get a taste of it. Lol. Atleast that’s my situation rn. I am obsessed with mul naegmyeon💀😭

[@angelicathomas7994]

Dave was correct when he said that it's not necessarily a fetish. In my case it's a curiosity in Asian men and the culture and food. I've been to Korea and I was impressed. I'll be back.

[@angbutassadonut]

3:20 THE HYPE IS BECAUSE OF KPOP FIRSTLY, THEN KDRAMA. these platforms are showing that korean men are beautiful and chivalrous. THATS WHY. its the same thing w korean women too, thats why korean beauty products has become trending worldwide, its due to the influence of the "people on camera" shown on music videos and korean dramas. so KUDOS TO SKOREA'S MUSIC AND TV hahahha! oh and bts, we cannot deny that bts put koreans into that pedestal for the world to see.

[@belindaclarke7803]

Korean men from what I see on KZbin and regular TV when you take a close look there seems to be 5 different looks and I see especially in K Dramas very sharp clear looks height I would put David in a similar look to Jimin and Suga BTS Korean men are mostly stunning not just in The world of Entertainment but out in every day life. GREAT SUBJECT.

[@baddie21358]

Suga bleaches and so do most Korean men

[@StyleswithCourtney]

They bleach

[@LisaCutie409]

Fake skin

[@LisaCutie409]

Lol White men are naturally good looking Koreans are fakes

[@cjaey2210]

It was BTS and Kdrama for me that got me changing my standard of attractiveness in men. It used to be Chris Hemsworth types or Latino guys but now it’s RM, Jin, Yoongi, JHope, Jimin, Taehyung and most especially Jungkook 🤭🤭🤭 And kdrama actors too 🥰 But I think it’s more of The total package looks, personality, soft power, achievements.. things like that. however, I usually end up with someone totally different from the Korean men I find attractive. That’s expectations vs reality for you 😂 at the end of the day, it’s great that Asian men are now in everyone’s attractive list - ‘bout time 😁

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Asian men aren't hot They bleach

[@LisaCutie409]

Asian men aren't hot

[@HoodQueen258]

Asian men are not hot

[@SylvesrerSam]

Korean women fetish white men Korean men get surgery to look white

[@phylicia595]

Asian men were never it

[@whatsaryn]

Been looking forward to this lol

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Ew Asian men

[@baddie21358]

Fake skin Bleaching Asian men

[@LisaCutie409]

Korean women love white men the most

[@agulccia6265]

Very interesting topic. I admit that Asian men can be attractive. Personally, I never focus on race, but rather on the values a person presents. If a man additionally is attractive and looks good, my interest increases.

[@SylvesrerSam]

Asian men are incels

[@michellekelley5118]

Koreans take care of theirselves well

[@LisaCutie409]

No They bleach

[@phylicia595]

Asian men bleach

[@peterk6431]

@@phylicia595 Which Asian?

[@michellekelley5118]

What does that have to do with taking care of themselves? Color doesn't matter. Light dark. It has nothing to do with how someone takes care of them selves

[@phylicia595]

@@michellekelley5118 they bleach their skin and dye their blond

[@gabrielakoncinska8209]

I just got back from my 3 weeks trip to Seoul and....well...to be honest almost every day I would pass by some man I would find cute or atractive on the street or subway....The thing is...that ...it seems to me that Korean dudes know how to cary themselves, they know about fashion style and elegance....and how to take care of themselves....In my home country of Czech republic...if you see very handsome and elegant man....he is total exception...or....he is gay.:-D...most of the men here are very smeared and just ...all over the place when it comes to fashion for example.....so from my own personal point of view this is very different....Of course there is also toxic side to korean men as mentioned...and one random dude was trying to slide to my dm with the obvious question if I like hot and naughty korean boys.....well I just ignore him....and I stay away from places like Hongdae and Itaewon cause...well...it was not experience I would have to get :-D :-D :-D ...so I really loved my time there and even its just days I got back I already miss the town and its vide....I really hope to come back.

[@rosemichel2551]

I enjoyed this, it was very good, funny 😂. Have more guys in the shows

[@effervescence5664]

I remember being a British kid and thinking Asian women were the most beautiful and magical creatures in the world. The women have always been fetishized and exotic, where the men were always seen as hard working and disciplined which when I was growing up was less of a sort after trait among the people older than me. Now it feels like Korea has that old school British/ American 1920s-1930s culture of style mixed with old school principles in the modern world and it's really counter culture to the rest of the world with the woke movement without being disrespectful of it. Must admit though the style of Korean men is very on point, south east England now has a growing Korean community and you can always spot the Korean guys.

[@eveteixeira]

What I can say about this K-wave on the top is that it's real in Brazil. Many k dramas and bands/songs being consumed, and men being seen in a good light. Something that didn't exist before. Maybe because we didn't have knowledge about the culture, the country, and the people themselves. We had little access. Today, with Netflix and social media, it's easier to create this wave of desire and even fantasy about Korean men. And yes. Seeing Korea through k drama and accessing through it a bit of the culture creates a lot of desire to know it personally. Speaking for myself I really want to go to Seoul soon. :) for everything and off course the food , ㅋㅋ. So Enjoy the good wave to surf...

[@star2like261]

I really like meeting Koreans, because although I consume a lot K content it’s still very rear to meet and interact with Koreans in person. I recently met a Korean lady on holiday in Brazil, and it was so cool to share with her what l learnt about Korea.

[@baddie21358]

They love white skin

[@imwalkworse6298]

i didn know much about Korea until i got my scholarship to study my masters there. I was oblivious to kpop and that kwave. My take is, the biggest export a country can benefit from is pop culture. America did it well and i guess Korea is just doing the same. Also i think the target demographic is mainly like 14 to 30 females who btw have great spending power. That being said i had great experience in Korea.

[@silviehurlimann6257]

One of the best dressed men are Italien. Not only for special occasions in general.

[@user-gt3oc1sr5b]

I love korean n chinese men. They are so charismatic and charm❤

[@LisaCutie409]

Lol they're billions and introverts

[@ghhhggrtes-rx1gx]

​@@LisaCutie409 paaki incel

[@kristinef.petersen1728]

I'm eskimo, we're originally from East China according to DNA research. I'm attracted to asian men. They look like us 😎 If I go to China, they will thought I'm chinese 😄 Asian men are good looking, fair skin and dark hair. Not only korean men.

[@baddie21358]

Asian men rank the lowest on dating sites

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Asian men bleach yuck

[@LisaCutie409]

They're yellow skim

[@phylicia595]

Asian men look like cheap versions of white men

[@HoodQueen258]

They aren't white

[@gina6413]

As an American female, I think it depends on the kind of guy you go out with. The guys I've gone out with or date, they've always initiated paying for dinners, offer to carry items, open doors. I think the popularity of Korean men is largely due to Kpop and Kdramas. Yes, there are physical differences, but regular guys on the street don't look the same as actors, lol.

[@maya_jones3411]

This is the same in ALL countries. Most people in all countries are average looking. Celebrities in all countries tend to be better looking than their average population.

[@JW-rj6dx]

I feel that korean guys tend to be more attentive to emontional needs and that can be an attractive trait. That can be a double edged sword though, because often koreans are too attached to emotions when it comes to dealing with something that requires rational judgments which is equally important in relationships. Ive seen many relationships go downhill because of this

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Korean men and Chinese men all look alike

[@SylvesrerSam]

Korean women love blue eyes

[@brivonn1580]

I love Korean men I find them very attractive 🥰 But overall I do not discriminate I'm open to all races.

[@StyleswithCourtney]

They look Chinese

[@phylicia595]

White men look naturally attractive Even Korean women know this Korean men need work done

[@AyanAli-py7ci]

Korean women love white men with blond hair

[@selfawarepotassium]

@@StyleswithCourtneyignorant and unrelated to the comment you replied to. Cool stuff.

[@LisaCutie409]

They like white women but we don't like them

[@kimleemoon]

Only a few seconds into the video. The answer to your 1st question is because some Korean men are fine asf. Especially the tall lean ones, like Lee Min Ho. K-drama actors have opened up a whole new world. But, I have seen some non-celebrity Korean men that are gorgeous as well. Maybe it’s because I’m a Gen-Xer, but my past bfs did all the things you said Korean guys do (open car door, carry your items, walk on the outside of the sidewalk, etc). A lot of Southern American men used to be this way. Guess the younger generation is different. P.S. I remember Jason from when he did videos with the dentist (his roommate).

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Korean and Chinese are all the same

[@phylicia595]

They're 5 ft 7 on average

[@baddie21358]

Asian men can't compete with white men

[@kimleemoon]

@@phylicia595 🙄ok, and? “On average” doesn’t men they’re all 5’7. It indicates some are TALLER than 5’7. And I never said I was attracted to ALL Korean men. I said SOME of them are fine, mainly the ones over 6’😉

[@chrystianaw8256]

Lee Minho looks so good! Even more now

[@cindypoole6792]

Yes, Kpop and Kdrama. But, that being said, Korean men are good looking. Usually lovely skin, great hair, very smart and driven.

[@baddie21358]

They bleach their skin

[@StyleswithCourtney]

No white woman can tell a Korean from a Chinese Can you tell a British person from a French person? Asian men are all the same

[@LisaCutie409]

They look like any other asian

[@phylicia595]

Bull crap They're 5 ft 7, hair like Asians and the smallest eyes

[@phylicia595]

Korean women want babies with white blue eyes and blond hair men. They don't like Korean men

[@kalmtraveler]

There are of course general trends in cultures, as far as behavior but I still think you need to just see people as individuals. Even though something might be so common that it's become a stereotype, individual people can always differ from the norm and be quite unique. In my case, it's been my experience that in general, Korean people as a whole tend to be more kind and polite than my fellow Americans. There definitely are lots of very polite Americans, and I have run into a small number of rude Koreans, but just broadly that seems to be a thing. Doesn't mean there's a fetish or racist way of thinking - merely observation. If I had to guess, it maybe stems from the difference in Confucianism teaching 'group first' mentality, and western ideology being 'me first'.

[@mariakoszalin]

great topic

[@janetharris9291]

I live in USA , I got interested in Korea after watching boys over Flowers on Netflix. It wasn't about the actors that interested me, It was the Culture. The way the parents controlled their adult children. I started wondering if that was true. I never really got an answer to that. Do the rich parents set up blind dates for their children and force them to marry someone they don't love in order to make a good business connection? or is that just K drama stuff. i researched a lot about Korea on You tube. I never fantasized about dating anyone. I am old that would just be weird. LOL when I discovered BTS , I loved it. I loved the Insync dancing. I saw videos of how they practiced with the 8 count. My granddaughter was an all star cheerleader. Her team won many international competitions. Their dance portion was also Insync and they also used the 8 count when practicing. Now that most of them are in the military, Enhyphen and TXT are getting popular in the States. i love to watch the dancing. I don't like it when they get too sexy like Love Shot. don't remember the groups name but i think the main dancers name is Kai? not sure . I have heard a lot of ghosting stories on You tube. One foreigner said she dated a Korean guy for 2 months before anything happened between them and he was gone the very next day ghosting her. Now that is ridiculous that seems more like a game to him. But there are Fboys aka Jerks here is the USA also and there are some gentlemen who will open the door for a lady , not many but there are some. There are a lot of new Korean Barbecue restaurants popping up where I live. i think Korea is going to continue to be popular for a long time. They compared BTS to the Beatles. Instead of the British Invasion it was the Korean Invasion.

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Nobody cares about BTS in America

[@stefheathcote6123]

Too many interesting themes discussed! 👏 Why is SK so exciting? Generally I think it’s because it’s an Asian country which is closest to the West as values. So Asians who glorify the West, like SK, the West seem to be able to understand SK easier. I come from Southern Europe and the Kculture is closest to the culture I grew up with. Man is the responsible one. Full stop. Not saying the woman is not, but it’s more left to choice for her; the protection comes from the security that you can be yourself(to a degree!) I know I’m generalising, but for me this is the core of it, perceived strength. And I miss this in the West where I live. The care is missing, you are not “seen” in the same way. For me personally - my dad used to have Asian features so I always liked tall, wide faced dark eyed men! 😂 I’m really curious how do you really feel about it - must be a bit scary? Uncomfortable?

[@AileenJongbloed]

I was wondering why is the guy with light color shirt looks familiar. Of course Jason from Jbro! Don't you miss John😁? I remember Anna in one of your vlogs. Interesting topic.

[@user-wt4tj2ew5v]

자막 달아주실 계획은 없을까요? 좋은 컨텐츠 감사합니다

[@liveone11]

Where is SooBeanie’s fine self at 🫰🫰

[@AbdulAli-ku9he]

Anna is very articulate, got to love Anna ♥♥♥♥♥

[@janinehercules2440]

Joe's mindset is balanced and his contributions towards the discussion, are sensible. That is how many of us around the world think. Sadly, there are more insecurities and lonely people in the Asian countries. There is a reason that Asians are moving away from their own country.

[@lealarsen2017]

i also think korean culture will stay relevant. one thing i feel Korean culture is very unique in, is their brand. often when you think of asian people, people think of a certain stereo type. like cheep labor and cheep designer bags. but when people think of korea it´s diffrent. it´s very high fashion good food and beautiful people along with alot of talent. all the things that people all over the world admire. but i think that unless kpop change and become maybe less manufactured the Hybe for that might fall. like the amount of kpop groups debuting is crazy to me. and it all seems like the same to me. the only one who looks apart and is unique is BTS. and that has nothing to do with me being biased. no one want more of the same movies they want diffrent things. so in 10 years or before when BTS retires the Hybe for kpop might not last, or it may be more normal and less appealing. he labels has already talked about how the intrest has become more normal now and i heard even korean people dont love kpop the same way as they did in the past. now it´s more the easy listen songs that you can hear on the radio and ou dont need to sit and watch a MV. that is why i love BTS music they have music in every genre almost. like when backstreet boys and spice girls was popular it was hybe with all the groups but them people got tired of it and liked solo singers more. and the hate about groups is still there kpop is just diffrent when it´s a more visual medium. but the dance and looks has become a bit boring people are complaining about how similar it all is. i see solo singers having a better chance in the future.

[@chineishon]

From experience i can tell you that mexican and iranian men do that but I think it also depends for example im from Mexico and i live in Canada and ive gone on dates with men from different nationalities and white men as soon as they know im mexican they behave super chivalrous because they know thats how it is in México. And we need to understand the context here in Canada there is more equality between men and women and chivalry is sometimes not welcome by women.

[@kathyvi7217]

Ayyy SEATTLE in the house ❤️

[@lealarsen2017]

i live in Europe and i have always been into asian guys especially guys from korea. I am 40 now so back then i didn´t even know about Korea i didn´t know there where a north and south. i thought it was a city in China hehe. But i found out because my first boyfriend when i was 14 was a korean guy. i remember he was very gentle and sweet and had the most beautiful skin and eyes. my friends thought i was wierd asking me how i could find him attractive. his name was Kim hehe because he was adobted so he knew nothing of Korea at all so i would say the Hype for Korean men has always been there for me. my mom was like me too she dated a Philippino guy for years before meeting my dad. and we are both white so it does excist but back then it was more a preference not a Hype. I could clearly see the difference between a Chinese guy and a Korean guy and i still can and i only been to the Philippines once, so idk how i can tell, i just can. it´s the eyes i like, the Jimin eyes😜 no double eyelids I think i like the feminine/softer sides of asian men i have always liked guys with longer hair too. i would never fall for a macho man. so for me it´s not the behavior more the look that gets me. but i also love how the personality match what i see. Like it was the case for my ex too even if he was adopted he was kinder than all the other boys i met. now that i am older i would much more preferer the personality over the looks

[@baddie21358]

Nobody in Europe can tell the difference

[@lealarsen2017]

@@baddie21358 well i can maybe i am just not like everyone else, but i agree it can be difficult sometimes when the race is mixed over the years. but the eyes i was talking about i normally only see in korea. in china their eyes are more wide or open. and in Philippines the skin is darker and their noses are a little wider. idk how to explain it. but i think hairstyles also makes it easier to tell

[@ckbrowne9243]

I'll be honest, Handsome is handsome, attractive is attractive. Yes K Pop and K Drama has opened up to the world so yes that does influence people's likes. I've been loving on actors like Bruce Lee, and Dustin Nguyen, Jet li way before the wave. I am curious as to the Black and Korean dynamic.

[@SylvesrerSam]

Tiny cox tiny eyes

[@coelharebelde]

Did you know that Brazil is the 3rd country that consumes the most KDramas? And that Brazilian women are in 1st place among the South American women that Korean men marry the most?

[@missyrust4736]

JASON moved to Korea?! This was sooo wild!

[@SylvesrerSam]

Boring Korea

[@michellemckinney4678]

@@SylvesrerSam- yeah but you’re still here watching this channel

[@samsimsam8]

I watched his podcast, hes a real dh

[@alvidean22]

The food definitely. I love love love Korean foods except kimchi....lol I can't get pass the taste.

[@justme.11]

For me (a black, American woman), it's 100% Korean media portraying the men as sexy. It made me see that Asian men could be sexy. As everyone knows, Asian men were never the romantic interest in US media. Ninja Assassin starring Rain was my introduction to Korea. Korean media really knows how to create and sell a fantasy.

[@SylvesrerSam]

Asian men are still not sexy

[@SylvesrerSam]

Ricecel

[@ghhhggrtes-rx1gx]

​@@SylvesrerSam currycel

[@dellson255]

aint no asian find blacks attractive tho. Literally 99% would reject you as bottom tier undateable. Serena Williams is literally held as a a joke example of what not date across asian cultures. They think its worse than unaliving yourself.

[@sindiswamsubo9519]

The k-culture hype has even reached South Africa so it’s definitely just the start like Jason said.

[@Billdean25]

It has never reached America

[@combat8314]

​@@Billdean25white and south asian men getting cuked by korean men lol

[@AndreaAvila78]

Es increíble la fama mundial que ha obtenido Corea en tanto poco tiempo. Es admirable, por su gran ética laboral y los productos de tan buena calidad que exportan, las series y la música. Me gustaría que me país copiara un poco su forma de vida. En Argentina la gente no esfuerza demasiado. Lo veo en los estudiantes que compiten por ver quien tiene las peores notas. Incluso siendo la universidad financiada por el estado, la gente no se interesa por estudiar. Es muy triste porque no tenemos futuro.

[@Isabella1680]

Lolz, French guys totally forgotten, I guess 🙈 That's the first thing that I noticed when I moved here, they dress up.

[@NannyzGal247]

I watched my first k-drama n became Korean fetishised... Then went down a rabbit hole to watch Korean reality dating shows.... And there was something intriguing bout Korean men... I admit the physical appearance is appealing, with most I find the way they are attentive.... I often hear and have since crowned them the kings of ghosting lol but have seen enough to feel Korean men should have ladies curious bout connecting with them!

[@baddie21358]

Lol They look like all Asian men Except they bleach

[@phylicia595]

Lol They look Chinese

[@baddie21358]

Ew Asian

[@HoodQueen258]

Nobody likes Asian men

[@SylvesrerSam]

Korean women love white men blue eyes

[@ZuziFox]

First time i encountered fetishization with a race was actually in Korea years ago when I heard the phrase "riding a white horse" and now it goes both ways ..... so yeah XD

[@phylicia595]

3.8 inches downstairs

[@combat8314]

​@@phylicia595white and south asian men getting cuked by korean men lol

[@sharaineroberts8537]

I finally was able to watch the parts I missed yesterday. I believe there's will always be a mixture of fetishist and reality with a sprinkle of dululu. The attention Korean men are receiving now will last unless the relationship with the country changes. I also agree 💯 with David about calling performance a fetishist. One last thing I didn't hear mentioned. Because Korean men have become popular, I find Korean men have become braver when approaching women, knowing that their are popular now. So my question to all 3 of you and your male friends. Do you feel more comfortable approaching foreign woman?

[@wanr5701]

"Having beard is considered as dirty, unhygienic, and unkempt in Korea." Obviously they have not heard of Jason Momoa.

[@dynadwynn]

The Korean wave is going to slow down. Because there's the Chinese wave coming up 😆 but seriously, these cultural waves do give us a great opportunity to learn more about the countries, cutures and people we wouldn't dare to learn otherwise. Even if it's just about pop culture, for some of us it might become a good motivation go learn more and go beyond what pop culture shows us, to see the world from a different perspective and to find something around us that we previously wouldn't pay attention to.

[@KennieinKorea]

Give me Jason 😊

[@francisimanuel8824]

I am often approached by asian and non asian people that seem to think that I have a thing for Koreans. But I knew very little about Korea. It was not because he was asian. I am blasian myself.

[@FortyoneZero]

Yes, Korea should be proud of its past hard work and accomplishment. Ignore some of the obvious jealous comments, lol

[@520mil]

Yeah heights and sizes definitely matters!😂😂😂😉😉

[@AyanAli-py7ci]

Too bad they don't have it

[@iBeatBoxz8]

It's funny cuz Koreans are considered the tallest Asian country but their "size is far from the largest in Asia🤣

[@basketballknows4645]

The western women like guys have charisma that can easily vibe.......

[@KimTak-nm4fj]

Simply put I felt these guys are a bit ignorant and boastful, talking about Korean guys in bubbles. For example, they said Korean guys have been caring about their appearances but that’s just because Korea has been in a phase of the dynamic shift. Japan has been in that phase for a long time and men had been caring about their appearance by doing their hair while Korean men didn’t and then Japan left that part cuz of getting into the phase of diversity like relaxing style of culture. Korean men are taller in general? Korean men often mention this but northern Chinese men are tall and even only 1 cm or 2cm of the average height differences between Korean and both Taiwanese/japanese. This kind of conceit or superiority? mentioned by Anna last and indeed input in Korean education doesn’t sound objective and thoughtful over others( in this case other Asian men especially toward SEA ) are getting backlash and it will be over someday not so long.

[@AshleyStarbuck]

I think where fetishization comes in when people reduce their interest in someone based on a sigular aspect of them.

[@star2like261]

I think the hype will slow down. It’s reached its peak, but will continue at a new slower pace like that of other international countries as new people will still come along. The biggest group or movie has already been created and I can only see two potential area of interest going forward. One would be wining something major on the sporting field (as a country not as an individual) or a Korean star marrying an international superstar) Korea will be just another normal country with foreign visitors and the younger generation will not see what we call the hype as our hype is their normal. 💕

[@LisaCutie409]

It never was a hype

[@bodaciousmos]

Maybe it starts with Kdrama and Kpop and yes there are fboys who then leave the girl heartbroken but there are also good guys who care about their body and mind . I mean David takes care of himself and is well rounded . I guess that is what women love the soft boyfriend look I mean after seeing all the players using women they hope the Korean guy is more serious about romance what of course isn't always true but they put more effort in the beginning like message you back so love bombing works unfortunatly you will have to filter out toxic ppl that only cause more mistrust in the next relationships . In general we should warn others from toxic ppl no matter if woman or men so they can't destroy other ppl because all the insecurities and mistrust comes from bad experiences and that is why women fantasies about Korean men they want the loveing partner they see in kdrama because many are sick of the games .

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Asian men aren't hot

[@LisaCutie409]

No

[@phylicia595]

Asian men all look alike

[@olikah4667]

😂😂 Korean 남자요 is hilarious

[@LisaCutie409]

White men are cute

[@joashedwards7206]

Joe preety said everything I've wanted to say for the past few months it is a fetishization of korean men and how the others pictured I'm of how these women especially white women are attracted to Asian features As a South Asian man myself I knew that Asian men in general across our whole continent were not considered attractive to the Western or Eastern European women but with this surge of k cukture it definitely created this fantasy While I'm glad my brothers from another mother are getting hype and korea in general is benefiting from this from the money that is being poured in I don't want them to be liked only for their race / nationality/ features And that's what has happen with alot of the Western and especially Eastern European white women when they see an East asian guy them immediately guess that he is korean and when they aren't u can see a visible disappointment in their faces I mean u can scroll down to the comments here and u have few women admitting how they standard was your typical white hollywood actor and now its korean guys period, of course there are exceptions but I guess there a 2 sides to every coin Great discussion and hopefully people will start loving people not for their race / nationality / skin color / features but qualities and character

[@ItsmeNina086]

I always love listening your contents and it makes me laugh. Lifts my mood. I Love BTS and IU and K-dramas. Just one thing makes me a lil sad and always bothers me is that everyone thinks India, Srilanka, Bhutan, Pakistan, Turkey and other such asian countries isn't Asia. Asia is a huge continent. Kpop even have some Indians. Hope wolrd recognize that. I have no idea who made this South Asians are not Asian, a thing. I hate it. Maybe someday you guys can find out.🥺

[@Zainab-qg9td]

Big credit goes to the Plastic Surgeons

[@iBeatBoxz8]

it's funny bc Koreans are considered the "tallest" among Asian countries but their "size" is far from the largest in Asia🤣

[@SY-fp6ng]

I don't know if it's as prevalent as implied here.

[@user-xj9tb6bo8o]

As a dane I'm curious of other cultures and I like the politeness you have in yours. Weather I would like to date a korean guy I don't know but I like that they take care of their apparence. The downsize is the patriachal society there is in korea. The fact that crimes against women are not seen as serious as other crimes tells somethings about the country. The fetures of asian men appeal to me though.

[@SylvesrerSam]

Ricecel

[@SylvesrerSam]

Small eyes

[@user-xj9tb6bo8o]

@@SylvesrerSam I prefer single eyelids and darker skin not very k-popish ah

[@user-xj9tb6bo8o]

@@SylvesrerSam ??

[@SylvesrerSam]

@@user-xj9tb6bo8o dark skin types look more masculine

[@Han-cj2jp]

Hi David and Anna, I don’t think this will be a Korean guy fad. Kdrama and K-pop has showcased how hot Korean guys are. Not only hot but how they make great boyfriends. (I recently saw a show where a guy said he married an Asian and all his friends were trying to guess what type of Asian she was. One guy guessed she was a low key Korean. (I’m one by the way) This was funny bc that’s what these guys think of Korean women.

[@baddie21358]

Korean men are known bleachers

[@phylicia595]

Asian men all look the same

[@baddie21358]

All Asians look alike

[@chennumber3]

Jason??????????

[@superior54]

It's because of beautiful korean woman.

[@brendamiller5785]

Ohhh, Korea! Do you know Jimin? 😅😅

[@user-vi1ou4tr7u]

drama and reality is totally different, dont be fooled girls

[@twinningintokyo5487]

Black Brit 🇬🇧 🇯🇲 married an Asian guy over 12 years ago. BTS wasn’t mainstream and people would be like “gross an Asian guy 🤮” (seriously sadly), now because of BTS k-Pop etc those same people are like “does he have a brother?!” smh 🤦‍♀️

[@pomegranateemporium]

It's a difficult one for me, I need people's opinion on the fetishism thing - so I find *in general* for example Italian and Korean men attractive. So, in general Italians their personality style and Mediterranean look, with Koreans I like how the men look after themselves and their style & how they carry themselves. But that doesn't mean any Italian man or korean man I love or is like that - so is that fetishism? Genuinely asking 🥹🙏🏽

[@StyleswithCourtney]

Italian men mog Korean men

[@LisaCutie409]

Korean men bleach, dye their hair blond, not masculine, short

[@baddie21358]

Korean men are too feminine and dye their hair blond I like white men but not Asian men

[@phylicia595]

White men are hot Asian men not

[@SylvesrerSam]

white men > Asian men