Korg Drumlogue - Feature FAQ and Full Beatmaking Workflow

The Drumlogue cometh!
Korg's brand new hybrid drum machine is finally here. In this video I will provide an "FAQ" overview of its features and then demonstrate said features by building a beat from scratch.
Transparency Notice: Korg kindly provided me with the Drumlogue for the purposes of making video content with it, but they have had no editorial oversight on this video's content, nor have they requested any.
Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:03 - Feature overview/FAQ
00:13:49 - Making a finished beat from scratch
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[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

Why does this sound sooooo much better in your demo than others? Really has a Linndrum vibe. And why aren’t Korg employing you to do their marketing?! Got a better understanding of it in your first few minutes than from their entire site. Big thanks

[@OscillatorSink]

In my opinion the Drumlogue isn't a particularly versatile drum machine, but I mean that in a positive way - it has a particular vibe that I haven't really found elsewhere. It's kinda raw and unrefined sounding in a way that I really like - and not in a "distort everything" way - although it can do that too; it's just endearingly "primitive" to my ears... So I think if you try to demo it as if it's a "do anything" drum machine, it falls a bit flat. I didn't bother trying to make it do stuff it doesn't want to do in this demo (and my 3 songs that I posted on the channel after this video). And I'm glad the video was useful!

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

@@OscillatorSink as someone who loves my MegaFM, Electribe V1’s and has reverted to using my old Tascam 4 track as a mixer...that all speaks volumes to me. Thanks again. @korg please add another sale commission to this mans running total..am sold

[@trevormalcolm4328]

I’ve watched a ton of Drumlogue videos today and this is the best! Easily the best one which actually “worked” the unit 🙏🏽✊🏽✌🏽

[@Drugscrub27]

Nice! Having new HW drum machines in 2022 is beautiful.

[@8008Sjj]

Thank you for this! Super informative and on top of that LOVE the energy with which you’ve presented the content. Your voice is so lovely to listen to and learn from. Sending much love 🙏🏼🤍✨

[@dustincassidy]

I’m playing Hansel’s Messiah at an insane volume on my hi-fi right now! It’s finally here! I’ve been waiting for this thing and it looks sick!

[@rederickfroders1978]

I never expected another Logue product. Awesome! I'm still very happy with my Mini XD

[@joshuareavis4401]

What I would give to be part of the community that receives these ahead of release!! How fantastic!

[@LockStoppageSandwich]

Get up a channel with lots of decent content, good number following/subscribing and you too can get sent free gear 👍

[@HenritheHorse]

Nice, already had forgotten this.

[@InkyDaCaT]

Woohoo at last you have been recognised and been given something to review! Brilliant 😉

[@FloEvans]

Thanks for the demo, I’m looking to upgrade my volca beats this seems to do everything I want and more.

[@philphilphil]

Korg makes intuitive machines 🚀

[@kravohi]

yooo, love that mix you have at the beginning. good feelings

[@OscillatorSink]

That full beat and 2 others just went live on my channel 😊

[@kravohi]

@@OscillatorSink dude, these are all gorgeous. you've sold this for me

[@Joe-mz6dc]

Groovy.

[@quinnzender]

lets goooo!! The minilogue XD was a very 'meh' synth to me before I took advantage of the user oscillators+fx. Now it's one of my all time favorites. So excited for that similar function in a drum machine! Though I was somewhat under the impression that the implementation would be a bit deeper (i.e. covering more voices). Still looking forward to what folks will come up with for the user osc slot.

[@sativamusicrelax1121]

waw new korg machine it is very beautiful cool thank you for sharing

[@bigmanlizard7326]

sounds nice tbh, glad theyve gone in the hybrid direction its interesting not really for me but can see this on lots of desks

[@Sinevibes]

Really tasty pattern you have created there at 01:06:00! Great review. Thanks!

[@OscillatorSink]

Thank you and so sorry for stumbling over saying your name earlier in my video! I cringed myself inside-out when I was editing. I've got a video coming out later today with some beats and there's one in particular where I'm giving Nano a nice acidic workout! If you have anything brewing for drumlogue (and I strongly suspect you do!) and want any testing/feedback/demos then drop me a line, I'd be happy to help out.

[@rickhopkinson]

I’m liking this... towards the end when the multi engine came in the vibe shifted to an underground menacing beast... I like it 😃

[@synthnerd4539]

Hard to tell till you get your hands on something, but this looks like a neater machine than the TR8-s. Had one for a while, did what I wanted on paper but in practice it left me cold. Good to see multiple outs.

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

Very “cold” machine too, sonically

[@DigDugger-hg1xb]

Say what you will but when he cranked up the drive on the bass drum I was like that's worth a few hundred right there

[@OscillatorSink]

The Kick on this thing is a highlight for me. The interplay between the drive and filter is really cool. When you crunch it up with the master effects then it's *chef's kiss*

[@DigDugger-hg1xb]

How it feels is everything.

[@go-away-5555]

Usb drive mode to manage the samples sounds so nice

[@renton74]

Nice review and I imagine I’ll be getting one as soon as funds allow. As a big fan of the Volca Drum I was hoping for a few Digital oscillators to make it across to the Drumalogue, I imagine they will pop up via the LogueSDK but it’s a shame they couldn’t lose a sample track or two to fit in some in.

[@OscillatorSink]

I'd have gladly sacrificed 2 sample tracks for 2 voices of the Volca drum too. I should definitely do a jam using both though - thanks for the idea!

[@sooperheep]

Get a Erica lxr-02 for awesome digital drum synthesis

[@Decoy303]

@@sooperheep exactly. Sound way better too. The sound on this D.M. is very dull not as boring but not bright at all. It's like I'm listening to Ritchie Hawtin's Decks, FX, and 909s mix from the b late 90's. Great mix... but not a sound quality I want in my music.

[@larrymonteleone1789]

@@Decoy303 lol, it's web based audio. do you really make judgements off of poor quality audio?

[@ap0ria]

I know limited storage for samples is a thing that we put up with, but I'm really tired of seeing storage sizes that were possible in the 80s. 32mb. Eh. The brightest point for me is that you don't have to use their worst in the world librarian software with this box. Way to go, Korg.

[@MadcapJake]

Probably has to do with being able to motion sequence the sample. They needed to keep the size within a fast CPU cache.

[@mjhobo5520]

To put it in context, Akai S1000 was released in 1989 with 8MB and cost couple of thousand pounds “Prices S1000 £2899: EXM005 2Mb memory upgrade card £699: AES/EBU digital input card £99: Atari and Supra hard disk interface card £99: SCSI hard disk interface card £99. All prices include VAT.” The Drumlogue, might only have 32MB but your getting an entire drum machine for less than a 2MB memory stick would set you back. Oh, that memory was volatile too,

[@Rides_In_The_Storm]

its flash memory and also elektron and mfb machines are limited there. this chips allow this step changes for samples.

[@unclemick-synths]

Handy it works with the nanoKontrol2 👍

[@OscillatorSink]

Yeah, i had to make a custom preset for the Nano, but being able to host and power USB devices is a definite plus!

[@skotbvids]

Thank you for explaining how to load the user samples! I couldn’t find any info anywhere else on how to start up the drum machine with the rec button on.

[@OscillatorSink]

Glad to help! As with most instruments, my secret technique for learning these things is reading the manual - it's tough work, but someone's got to do it!

[@GrootsieTheDog]

Would be great if they released a companion piece of gear (like moog did) That would basically be a four track Minilogue XD (one of my all time fav pieces of gear) groovebox. Btw I have no idea how people could have a problem with the XD sound - that’s beyond my comprehension

[@dennis5504]

I'm one of those people who don't really like the sound of the xd. I don't believe it sounds bad. Far from it. It just.... doesn't fit the auditory flavor that I'm going for in my music. Bought and sold it 3 times. I tried to like the xd, I really did. I prefer the sound of the original, or the prologue. Shame that the xd has the best feature set on paper.

[@OscillatorSink]

The original Minilogue is another great example of an instrument with a particular character.

[@JordanService]

I love my XD.

[@ianmorton1799]

I like it, but I really wish it had the original minilogue filter. It sounds a bit warmer to me, a bit better for bass patches. The XD has lots of fun sound design options, and I love mine. But sometimes I wish I could get a warmer bass sound on some patches.

[@tekrahmuzik2119]

will pass prob till Drumlogue MK2

[@wangledteb5671]

This sounds good! I'm a little disappointed because when I first heard that it was going to be a hybrid analogue/digital synth, I was expecting the capacity for more weird sounds like what you get out of the Volca Drum... This sounds a lot more "traditional" than I expected, but that isn't necessarily bad! It sounds great even if it isn't as esoteric as I had hoped. Maybe some logue sdk oscillators will help make up for that anyway.

[@shuwig]

They probably want people to own both the Volca Drum and this...

[@wangledteb5671]

@@shuwig Yeah probably. I think I just would have liked to see some more sounds in that general direction is all. not a dealbreaker though

[@OscillatorSink]

As a big fan of the Volca Drum - I'd have loved to see some "Volca Drum" channels (and a resonator effect actually). I am looking forward to trying the two of them together now though...

[@wangledteb5671]

@@OscillatorSink ooh yes and I'm looking forward to hearing that if you post a video :P

[@thegreat1548]

@@OscillatorSink can i make hip hop beats with this?

[@lurkdash]

I think a lot of negative takes I’ve seen about the tone of this thing don’t realize how novel a small drum machine that behaves itself as well as this one does is

[@chitlun]

Fair review. It’s not something that’s going to drag me away from my Digitakt/Model:Cycles combo anytime soon though. I was quite surprised at the lack of LFOs in there but hey ho…

[@leftmono1016]

That’s a fantastic combo 😀👍

[@MadcapJake]

Does it respond to Program Change? Does it send PC on program/kit select?

[@Mistone92]

Gives it a Plugin for Ableton per Usb with i can controll the Machine via Usb Plugin?

[@freejazzbone]

thanks for your review of this sleek new Korg drum machine, on that 1 part that could be a synth? would that one voice be essentially the same as the DIY Korg NTS-1? organic quality.

[@OscillatorSink]

Yeah - basically it's the same system as the oscillators on the NTS-1 and Minilogue XD - hopefully some of those will be ported to the drumlogue soon!

[@Soundlagoon]

I have the problem that the tempo knob is insanely fiddely.. It takes super long to have the tempo adjusted to what I want since it is always reacting too fast or not at all.. Did you experience that too?

[@MrTR909]

Im not sure if I should go for something like Korg or the MFB Tanzmaus

[@0.5wit35]

Please help!! I am having trouble with the midi and USB on my Korg Drumlogue! BACKGROUND: So I just unboxed mine. First impressions are that this thing is a step up from my old hardware... which consists of an E-Mu, a MicroKorg, and old Electribe ES-1s!! Out of the box, this thing sounds SICK!! I found noodling in the sequencer fairly intuitive... but I haven't explored all there is to explore with the sequencer. I mean, it's only been a few hours. As great as it sounds, it's not all peaches and cream. I am really confused about the midi... and it has become vexing. ATTEMPTING TO HOOK THE AKAI MPK MINI TO THE DRUMLOGUE: I wanted to use the Akai MPK Mini to play the VPM/Noise/User synth but it does nothing. To clarify, it does receive power from the Drumlogue via the USB device port... the Akai MPK lights up... but doesn't seem to interact with the Drumlogue in any meaningful way. I have tried moving through all of the available channel listings, to no avail. ATTEMPTING TO HOOK THE ARTURIA KEYSTEP TO THE DRUMLOGUE: I also tried using the Arturia Keystep with it via MIDI, but all I can get it to do is play the associated drum parts on the keyboard. Key 15 is the vpm/noise/user synth... but I can't play that chromatically throughout the Arturia Keystep's keyboard. Is there a way to see which sounds are assigned to which channels? Is there a way to make all the keys of the Keystep be chromatically assigned to the VPM/Noise/User synth? The internal sounds are fantastic and I live the analogue drum modeling! The sequencer is great and there is a lot of potential with creating all kinds of fascinating IDM and acid breaks/loops!! But I have hit a brick wall with hooking this thing up to a USB controller or a MIDI controller. Any help would be most appreciated!! ATTEMPTING TO HOOK DRUMLOGUE UP TO COMPUTER: Another issue I am experiencing is that when I hook the USB host port to my computer, nothing happens. I don't think I can hook the USB device port to my computer. 🤔 In all the tutorials out there, the reviewers seem to breeze over the process for hooking the Drumlogue up to another USB or MIDI device. Unless when hooking the Drumlogue to a USB controller like the Akai MPK mini, it really is as easy as 'plug-&-play'... in which case, I'm starting to wonder if my Drumlogue has an issue with its USB ports, right out of the box?!? I welcome any insight that anyone here can provide. Thanks!

[@josephwright5921]

They are on clearance at Reverb now for $399.00! Maybe a version 2 is coming with improvements?

[@MrVelpat]

Now you have to make it synthesizer!

[@OscillatorSink]

Can. It. Drone?

[@VJFranzK]

15:50 So these Transients are (digital) samples mixed into the analog kick drum signal? (Tempest also included this, I think, though they don't have to be used.)

[@OscillatorSink]

Yes, that's correct.

[@MrTR909]

could we use own samples?

[@OscillatorSink]

@@MrTR909 not for the transients currently

[@florinchelniciuc831]

Hi there! Is this new drumloque better than tr8s? Thanks!

[@bumdittybrendan3710]

I heard so many negative things about this machine. Im liking the sound tbh. I'm a tr707 enjoyer fwiw and prefer the 707 sounds over the 606,808, and 909 tbh. Now that the price has dropped to $500 im considering it especially if I can get one used on the cheap.

[@klokbaske]

Also lost a good track to the Clear Sequence feature of my Digitakt. Would have been such a banger.

[@OscillatorSink]

Solidarity.

[@lX-NDR]

Do you still use it? And can you adjust the timing on the notes to early or late like on the digitakt?

[@OscillatorSink]

I haven't used it much recently as it doesn't fill a gap - between Syntakt and Digitakt I have most things it can do covered "albeit at about 4 times the cost, total). You can microtime steps I believe yes, but check the manual to be sure.

[@itsJoel59]

This seems like something for me as a first drum machine. I want something that can load and play samples, and a little bit of sound design as well, and I was originally planning on combining the volca drum and sample for that. What do you think? Also loved this video. Liked and subbed ❤

[@OscillatorSink]

The drumlogue sounds like it will give you what you want, but crucially the addition of FX and far more comprehensive sequencing will give you more scope to put together more complex beats. That said - I do love the Volca Drum - it's a fantastic drum synth.

[@itsJoel59]

@@OscillatorSink Amazing, thanks for the input!

[@robertforster9482]

Can you write all this down my heads just exploded.😂

[@EverettDudgeon138]

I appreciate this but I feel that restricting instruments to specific engines isn't the way to go. What if I don't want an analog snare or kick? What if I wanted an analog hi hat? With something like the Tempest or Analog Rytm, each voice can have two analog oscillators and two samples, so you can choose to have either or both types of sounds.

[@OscillatorSink]

I agree with you for my tastes most of the time - hell, I spend significant percentages of my time turning any synth I can get my hands on into drum machines! BUT that flexibility necessitates added complexity and that's not for everyone - the classic x0x machines did OK with a fixed architecture! The tempest is a great example of being super flexible but with a lot more work needed by the user up front.

[@EverettDudgeon138]

@@OscillatorSink Yup. For the most part I use the stock samples built in the Tempest for my drum sounds (808, 909, LM1, Linn Drum, DR55, TOM etc) and use the synth engine for melodies and bass lines. If I wanted to have a "Linn Drum kit" on the Tempest, it's easy to do but if I wanted to just even have a Linn Drum or TOM snare on the DrumLogue, it's not possible.

[@OscillatorSink]

@@EverettDudgeon138 you can, however load any sample (including user samples) onto any of the sample tracks. The 4 analogue tracks are fixed, the sample tracks just have labels - you can ignore those labels.

[@EverettDudgeon138]

@@OscillatorSink Which unfortunately cuts into the number of voices/sounds you can use at a single time

[@PorchBass]

Analogue tracks are physical circuits you can't expect duplication of those... Just use the sample layer on the analogue tracks maybe? It's not a limit IMHO

[@embersandash]

Random LFO + probability is way different than motion sequencing + probability. Gonna wait for the price to drop before consideration.

[@lX-NDR]

Digitakt

[@embersandash]

@@lX-NDR Digitone 👊🏼

[@lX-NDR]

@@embersandash yeah i have both. great combo

[@MarkLoweLowebrau]

Cool machine but do you have a ton of compression on it in this vid?

[@OscillatorSink]

I have the saturation master fx on in the drumlogue by the end of the video, but no compression applied.

[@HisMadness_]

Next up : the drumlogue does ambient !

[@OscillatorSink]

😉

[@LockStoppageSandwich]

OS I have noticed that lots of YT reviewers. Say that the manufacturer sent them over ‘x’ to review. But hardly any of them state wether they were actually given it, or have to return it. With transparency in mind why do they not state that most times they were given it ? Not having a pop at you as love your channel/content. BUT the fact that folk don’t say up front they were given it. Just looks a bit lame to me.

[@OscillatorSink]

Sorry, I thought that was implied. I'll try to use a form of words that's more explicit in the future. Yes, I got it for free, and I don't have to send it back (that's not always the case though).

[@LockStoppageSandwich]

@@OscillatorSink Just think it’s more transparent and up front. Not you (as I believe your reviews are honest, balanced and up front). If I didn’t I would have subscribed to your channel yonks back. But there are reviewers out there who aren’t as honest as you 👍and after all. If you have been given it. Why not just say.

[@Decoy303]

I wish it was all analog or a mix of analog and digital voices with more parameters to tweak on the surface for each drum voice. We don't need another piece of gear to load samples into. Just a waste of space. They are def going to have to do something about that kick drum. It's booty butt cheeks.

[@embersandash]

It’s really going to be up to the multi osc. Not sure how this can compete with TR8s unless the analog kick is really that much better which I can’t evaluate even with headphones on line.

[@PorchBass]

Let's hear the kick properly on an individual out before judgement. Agreed you can't evaluate on the current demos

[@sspanjersberg]

Ahh uhn uhn ahhh ! yeah....(* I like a tamborine)

[@Banloca]

Really great video but I do find this machine a bit boring! The Perkons HD-01 is on another level...

[@anthonyfrost7068]

Could someone please tell me the best way to connect and record on Logic Pro x??

[@OscillatorSink]

Do you have an audio interface?

[@anthonyfrost7068]

@@OscillatorSink yes! No probs with audio recording but wanted to record midi.

[@OscillatorSink]

@@anthonyfrost7068 it should present as a midi device over USB, so you'll just need to set up the right device and channel in logic. There are some example setups listed in the manual that might fill in some gaps.

[@0.5wit35]

I just purchased a Korg Nanokey in order to see if the Drumlogue would play nicely with that. So far... they seem to get along. I can finally play a melody, a baseline, noodle about to a beat... but... It won't record the actual melody/notes. Everything note becomes whatever the vpn/nano is showing in the display. And if there is an option to step-sequence note changes... for example from C#2 to A2 or something.... I cannot find such options in the menus. Time to think about the return policy on this thing. It's a shame... there's a lot of potential in Korg's Drumlogue... but at this point, it delivers more frustration than value... especially at $600.00 USD. I'll keep noodling... perhaps my opinion will change.

[@OscillatorSink]

Have you updated the firmware? I'm pretty certain that they released a firmware a few weeks ago that addresses that issue?

[@OscillatorSink]

www.korg.com/uk/news/2023/0123/ Yep, chromatic midi recording is listed for the update.

[@0.5wit35]

@Oscillatorsink, I can't thank you enough for this!! I downloaded the firmware update and am very happy with the results! The ability to now record on the VPN/Nano really brings some of the necessary value to this machine. I have been putzing around with the Nano and am thoroughly enjoying the different envelopes and filters that we can now add to a recorded synth-line!! And the ability to actually record some melodic phrases alone helps in giving more 'real estate' to an idea. Not sure if there exists a way to step-sequence note changes yet... still noodling. But this update alone makes the Drumlogue feel like the machine I intended to purchase. I know a lot of the tech-world these days release an MVP (minimal-viable-product for the un-agile) and then make updates throughout the next several years to incrementally improve the product. It's huge in the gaming industry. Elder Scrolls and Cyberpunk 77 were broke as fuck upon initial release... and gradually updated to be the product we intended to buy. Personally, I think that's a risky methodology. The flood of complaints alone can damage a company's credibility... and their bottom line. But at least there is a community of great minds out there... like yourself, who are helping to spread the word, and provide clarity from the confusion!! Korg should put you on the payroll! Thank you so much for responding, and for posting that link to the firmware update!!

[@danvandal4127]

Are the filters analogue?

[@OscillatorSink]

None of the documentation says, so I don't actually know. The filters on the 4 analogue tracks sound and respond markedly differently to the digital tracks, so at a guess, I suspect the analogue tracks are analogue and the digital tracks are digital, but don't quote me on that!

[@spectralknights2]

A lot of people are already trashing this awesome drum machine. Those people just want to justify what they've just bought lol probably elektron or roland or other korg gears

[@dankeplace]

It doesn't matter how good the UI is and as a drum machine, this is pretty good, but it just sound very average. It doesn't do 1 thing very well, to me it seems to be spread too thinly, trying to do too much when it should have just been a drum machine. It's more expensive than the Model cycles which to me sounds better as a percussive instrument. Maybe the user SDK might bring out something more unique, but it's a pass for me atm.

[@MIRKO1982roma]

Ciao come fai a far funzionare il nano control?? A me non funziona i volumi delle singole traccie non fa nulla si accende soli il piccole led che impostazioni devo mettere grazie

[@OscillatorSink]

You will need to set the cc numbers for each control on the nano control - you will have to set it up in the Korg control software.

[@MIRKO1982roma]

@@OscillatorSink ok se programma devo usare editor Korg ? Del nano control

[@MIRKO1982roma]

@@OscillatorSink come faccio a capire cc Number della drumlogue

[@OscillatorSink]

You need to read the Midi Implementation Chart at the end of the instructions manual.

[@MIRKO1982roma]

@@OscillatorSink troppo complicata la configurazione ... grazie

[@coolandgood0062]

What about price? Im torn between digitakt and this one. Syntakt lost me when i found out you can't save patterns.

[@OscillatorSink]

I think the rrp is 629 euros, but what do you mean that the syntakt can't save patterns? It definitely can.

[@mjhobo5520]

Chain Patterns?

[@OscillatorSink]

@@mjhobo5520 yep. There's no full song mode, but you can chain patterns. It's worth taking a peak in the manual, it's all there.

[@jedilicious7025]

@@OscillatorSink might wanna rethink that statement ;-)

[@OscillatorSink]

@@jedilicious7025 13 days is a long time in firmware releases.

[@MIRKO1982roma]

La grancassa sembra debole non buona per Fare techno 💣??

[@ehdyn]

Wanted to like it, but the size and quality of the screen is really off-putting. Doesn't even look like it fits there with the knobs and you can barely read the text. Sorry Korg, you goofed pretty good on this one.

[@sullycliftona]

Good word. Most logs get flushed down toilets..

[@LevitskiSRGE]

Just mix it with, I'm Gonna Be 500 Miles

[@stangdan405]

monitor bardzo skromny, szkoda😮

[@X-101]

I'm I the only one who thinks it sounds abit shit, really dislike the kicks tone and i would rather have more multi's

[@Greebstreebling]

it may be 'here', but you can't buy it yet....

[@bernardlindeman739]

Ewwwwwwwwww

[@SonicVibe]

Meh 🫤 it’s a volca beats with a better snare low memory no sd card no user synth machines as of yet , needs pc for samples no direct sampling and lots of menu diving I’d rather get a Drum-brute impact for simple drum machine. And no finger drumming or velocity sensitive pads in 2022

[@ionianechoes]

It's not the most avance drummachine but compare it with a drumbrute??? Fx, motion, polymeter, sidechain, sdk, synth, samples, filters, panning, conditional probability ... that must be a joke

[@SonicVibe]

@@ionianechoes none of these user-based synth engines even exist. The sample time is laughable. Hella menu diving. No nob per function. If you’re going to get a simple drum machine, the drum brute impact does all of this. I don’t consider this drum machine to have synths and 4 seconds sample time lol smh 🤦‍♂️ useless, plus I feel the drum-brute has better fx for performance. it also has no sd card to transfer samples have too use pc and no direct sampling makes it a bad sample player. 32 gb memory maybe hold 100 samples

[@ionianechoes]

@@SonicVibe the drumlogue is not too exciting. The drumbrute is just a disgrace. Thats my opinion. Oh god those cymbals sound like a ground-loop...

[@SonicVibe]

@@ionianechoes I hear you man you brought up some good points, I’m re-watching some Lou pop right now on the PCM and sidechain more on the synth engines there’s some menu diving, but it doesn’t look too complicated. I never had the drum brute impact so I’m just going off of some videos, but I guess there’s more performance options than I thought, and some sound shaping capabilities still not a fan of the sample memory. and I think samples are kind of a pain with it but it could work. I’ve had a lots of other drum machines though in comparison, I currently rock an MPC one I got for the same price as this and if you compare what the MPC one can do compared to this I would go MPC one all day but, they also raised the price on the MPC one I do like the look of it for some reason, but it might be hard to see some of those shift options in a live setting in the club and drum brute impact got brought up because I thought the price was going to be around 300 not 600 I guess a good comparison would be like the TR6s seems to do a lot of the same stuff, motion, controls, etc. for a little cheaper. But if it was more just a drum machine and they took out trying to have synths in it or samples and more knob per function for just a strait drum machine and leave the groove box aspect out. I don’t know it might’ve appealed to me more I’m not gonna say it’s a bad machine and I hope people make some Dope stuff with it. But I think they could’ve made more money if they just would’ve made a vocal drum 2 type machine

[@ionianechoes]

@@SonicVibe fortunately there are a lot of different options today. Whatever suits better, from mpcs, elektron, tr8s and 6s deluge, to things like Erica synths perkon stuff, to behringers rd's, drumbrutes or tanzbar. I think the drumlogue is interesting but also a bit late. And maybe just too much o a hybrid thing but not really powerfull on anything.