Korg NAUTILUS REVIEW // vs KRONOS // Tutorial including the new arp and drum sequencers

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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
0:40 vs Kronos
6:30 Connectivity
7:30 Workflow
10:10 Knobs
11:35 AL-1 (Virtual Analog)
12:15 Polysix
12:55 MS-20
14:20 STR-1
14:35 MOD-7
15:15 SGX-2 Piano
15:30 EP-1
15:45 CX-3 Organ
16:00 HD-1 Sampler
18:40 Program mode
20:15 Combi mode
21:40 Setlist mode
22:45 Scenes
24:20 Arpeggiator
25:45 Drums seq
27:55 Custom arp
30:10 Sequencer
33:55 Sampling
35:05 Effects
37:30 Pros, cons
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[@Distortic]

As if 2020 wasn’t bad enough, they are bringing back resistive touch screens...

[@davidspears1452]

🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@YanivhmTube]

Not only that. Looks like they're using the same atom chipset back from 2011, 2gb ram and all good thing developed 10 years ago. My 100$ chinese tablet has more power then this 2500$ workstation. which can explain the lag mention in the review. It's just yet another try to milk customers with old gear in new cases. The only thing korg really made an effort in is the new theme which I can only hope kronos users will get as an update if korg will be kind enough to bother.

[@EdoardoMarcora]

Yes, I am a few mins into the video and already the UI/touchscreen seems very unresponsive for modern standards (phones, tablets)

[@Ultimate_Wasabi]

They never got rid of them on keyboards. Supposedly, they say that resistive touch screens are better for pinpoint accuracy compared to capacitive for on stage applications. I don't know if I buy that; I think they are just cheaper to produce.

[@apoclypse]

This looks awful. No aftertouch, resistive touch screen, barely any controls, wobbly knob.

[@ajotech]

You are the “Users Manual” brought to life but with a fun entertaining and world class edge. I purchased a Yamaha MODX after watching your review. Thank you so much LoopPop!

[@obwanz1921]

Great review as usual! 👍appreciate you!

[@dmares700]

A lot of extra blank space, yet very capable. Loopop yet again you did an amazing job!

[@noitnova]

One of the best reviews on KZbin. Well done!!!

[@thkeyboardsounds]

Thanks for the comparison! I like the simple arpeggiator. Karma is very complex and most of the time to big for my use.

[@sudabadri7051]

I dont care if i got mates over, if a loopop video drops im watching it

[@SynthgodXXX]

Thank you for this video! I am interested in the Nautilus but the Kronos is my baby. I love being able to do everything in one workstation & STREAM complete sample packs :)

[@questube1967]

Hi what do you mean “stream” sample packs with the Kronos?

[@eternalvoid2678]

wobbly plastic knobs/pots, a resistive touch screen and laggy interface are dealbreakers at >2k. When I spend that much on an instrument I expect nothing less than premium build quality.

[@mclekrell]

There’s the Nord Stage 3.

[@thorstenweimar1190]

Nothing wobbly, touch screen does its thing. No issues at all since one year. It's actually more fun to use than a Modx or Montage. And the Nautilus sounds fantastic!

[@krosstechguy3290]

korg naut has a good sounds but if the touc is broken then its the end of the board.

[@JuliusDeBerryJr]

@@krosstechguy3290 that's the same with most keyboards.

[@EdgyNumber1]

@@thorstenweimar1190 The orchestral and cinematic patches and effects are mindblowing!

[@WoodyPianoShack]

great upload loopop, very informative and enjoyable! congrats :)

[@loopop]

Thanks! Likewise I just finished watching yours and loved it! Certainly a lot of timbral exploration to be had with this one...

[@hifimidi]

Dude... nice camera work!

[@PaulAdamssongs]

BTW, video was done VERY WELL ! Thanks again. And it looks like the wave function may be helpful for getting nice pads

[@cristobalplatz]

Great review!! Thank you!

[@johnnswildyears]

The Queen intro music is a nice touch!

[@dulistanheman]

Thanks for giving honest review

[@eddydeegan]

"All the keyboards are velocity sensitive but don't have aftertouch". Loopop, your reviews are the best and most thorough out there but this is one video I can't bring myself to watch. Korg let us all down badly on this one IMHO.

[@larrbaII]

Yes they did eddy,and of all the things to cut down on.. aftertouch korg? really?

[@audioartisan]

Great Review ...Thank you :)

[@pianobill8781]

such a great intro to this thank you

[@PL-px3gw]

No aftertouch on a $2,000 keyboard? I can understand the loss of the controller section. And ALMOST the loss of Karma. But this trend from keyboard manufacturers to remove aftertouch from all but their top of the line synths? Is it really that expensive to implement? Am I the only one who finds aftertouch extremely useful? I sold my Kronos and was thinking of getting back into the "Kronos" fold, but I'll have to pass on the Nautilus. Regardless of how I feel, your review, as always, was very helpful and insightful. Thanks for always doing such a great job!

[@jakob5947]

6:25 „I find fingers just fine - they come in HANDY“😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@danwentz]

I have owned an 88-key Kronos 2 for 3 years where it’s remained the centerpiece of my studio. Aftertouch I’ve really only used while plugging lighter action external keybeds into it (MIDI/USB) due to the heavy piano hammer action. Karma is something I’ve lightly tapped into but enjoy having as a weighty option. Amazing sounds, however I feel the biggest limitation of both is still using the 32-bit architecture and it’s 4GB memory ceiling.

[@davidbaddeley4473]

Lack of physical faders would be a problem for me in Combi mode in a live gig situation. Shame 73 key version isn’t weighted like Kronos version is. Good to see simpler arppegiator as I do find karma very complicated

[@comradecat1859]

Looks so nice

[@Val_Cla]

Cool demo :D Sounds really good ! But it looks like a pain to control though !

[@wreckage-vs5jv]

just saw it announced on thomann, googled loopop nautiles and now I'm here.

[@TrustyButterknife]

this is like controlling protools with a DX7

[@anick2144]

Or a 2011 samsung phone lol

[@brunodadivore9606]

something against te DX7 ? !

[@jehwoh]

@@brunodadivore9606 Try Arturia's DX7 plugin & compare it to the original UI of DX7...

[@brunodadivore9606]

​@@jehwoh yes i have all the Arturia suite. DX7 plug in is really nice, much easier to program than the real DX7. But now I stopped using, cause MODX is much greater and easier to sound design

[@jaybeetdown]

@@brunodadivore9606 I LOVE the MODX. It's going to be hard to beat, let's see Roland's answer to the Flagship "takedown/mid tier" workstation.

[@squeakD]

Wow..., that’s pretty expensive for a budget version. There is no excuse in 2020 for a keyboard in that price range to not have aftertouch. I don’t understand why aftertouch is still being treated like it’s a “gold feature” in keyboards today. That technology has been around for a long time now.

[@slapmyfunkybass]

Why do you need aftertouch, it’s basically used for about four samples?

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Not really excited to see a new workstation, but I am excited to see your upcoming Korg opsix video. ;)

[@oskarwerner1228]

I had the Krome EX, Kronos 2 61, and now I have the Nautilus 61. Kronos is much more complicated. Karma has many variants, but you need to know how to use it, as a result, it is a difficult piece of equipment to use. I think the Nautilus sounds more accessible and more pleasant to listen to. Playing this instrument is pure satisfaction. Kronos has a more severe character. It looks as if Korg engineers have given the Kronos an easier & nicer version. The keyboard is probably the same, but in Nautilus it feels a bit deeper. Between Kronos and Nautilus I had Krome EX, so maybe that's why I feel in Nautilus. To sum up, Korg Nautilus is the best equipment I've ever dealt with. Affordable price, something beautiful.

[@amb13nt59]

Thank you for the comparison. You asked for feedback on Karma from Kronos users. I use Karma very sparingly, and I generally dislike it. It’s nice to see that Korg has moved to what seems to be a much more usable arpeggiation tool.

[@jgh548]

I hope they release an updated OS with this refreshed interface for the Kronos.

[@rickvestuto]

that woudl be awesome but I doubt it because the hardware is from the mid 2000's

[@nithinthomaskannanmannil5678]

Even though Yamaha montage has great interface but extremely complex, I think Roland fantom is best of the both worlds.

[@TheOneTrueAnswer]

You'd have no reason to buy the Nautilus, then.

[@saftpackerl]

It really seems like Korg needs to upgrade the really good Kronos engine with more powerful computing power, a better touch screen and tune the UI. Which they obviously didnt do with this one...

[@evdghs]

Thanks for the review. I'm still more than happy with my old Oasys 76 from 2006: much more realtime controls, tiltable 10" screen, keys with aftertouch ... but I'd really looking forward to an instrumt fusion between Kronos and PA4X ...

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

A Kronos with onboard speakers would be great! I would also really like piano action in a 61 key.....but I am a pianist so I'm biased.

[@fabriziograti4610]

I owned a Kronos 73 and it was almost perfect for me. But at 24Kg I could not take it at every rehearsal and gig anymore, the RH3 keyboard is nice but a bit inconvenient for organ/synth parts. So I think this might actually be a very good solution for somebody like me, but Korg has to work on the positioning. If they make it cost more or less like a MODX7 then we have a discussion here.

[@gautrstafr]

I think it's nice if you have a use case for a Kronos but want to spend less. Maybe some Musical Directors? For me, I'm still extremely happy with my MODX6 and for $700 less than a Nautilus 61 I'd still buy it again specially because of the MODX's amazing audio interface.

[@JackHertzVidz]

I have had the Kronos since it came out in 2011. JMO, this is not the same machine without KARMA and all the controls. I almost never use the touch screen on the Kronos and would find Nautalis unusable for this reason, and the lack of KARMA, that offers so much more than just ARPs. JMO, but this makes the Kronos an even better deal.

[@CaptJimDavis]

I agree I was thinking to buy a Nautilus until I've found out that it does not have Karma...

[@thelibrarian3734]

Fun fact the Kronos cannot be bought so it’s not a better deal🤔🤷‍♀️

[@russellyoung6498]

A great comparison. I have a Kronos 2 61, and like fellow commentators think that the omission of Karma would be a problem. It's one of the major features of Kronos (and Oasys before it) and once you get to know it, it soon becomes indispensable. The larger touchscreen on Kronos helps, particularly if like me, your fingers resemble bunches of bananas!

[@marcusholder495]

Thank you for the video

[@corentinhaldemann4454]

6:27 Loopop with the finger recommandation. They do come in handy! (Oh my god, was that a pun? I just realized it.)

[@loopop]

yes yes my attempt to entertain with dad jokes

[@JoernR]

As a Kronos 2 88 owner, I am quite happy to see this. :D They repeated their own mistakes, like sticking to the outdated sequencer all Korg workstations suffered of since M1 times. They also adopted proven mistakes from others, like Yamaha made with their DX7 - heavily compromized accessibility and usability due to the lack of physical controls. In short, it's a Kronos with too less controls, undersized screen and memory, and no Karma, bearing all the shortcomings of it's larger brother with added drawbacks. If it was a 1000 $ instrument - okay. But it isn't. So I feel very happy with my Kronos 2 88, wouldn't even buy this one if it came for 1500 bucks and three bikini models included. I guess Kronos doesn't need that new UI - it's just for compensating the dismemberment caused by the lack of physical controls. Answers: Use Karma:? Never programmed anything (too complicated) - but often like to use it for playing along for my own enjoyment. Never use it for recordings. Use the hardware controls?: Yes. Karma buttons, sliders, numerical keypad. They removed the keypad? Sequencer?: Used it quite heavily with the 01/w fd, created full songs with a multiple devices setup (01/w, JX-3P, Poly 800, DX7, Vocalist II). Back in time. There were times people from Europe travelled to the heart of India on the back of elephants, arrived after several years, if at all. Nowadays, they'll take a plane and safely arrive within a few hours. Same with sequencers. Thus I switched to Cubase, Reaper - and never looked back. Why should I? Sorry and happy to say: Korg went the wrong way. Stepping back doesn't get you forward. And lack of physical controls kills creativity, stops the temptation of creating your own sounds, reduces a workstation to a preset player.

[@rickvestuto]

try pairing a MPC one with your Kronos The sequencer is awesome to use and many options

[@JoernR]

@@rickvestuto - Ah, that's not my kind of device; I am one of that fossils used to playing white and black keys. :) So I am quite fine with using a software DAW for recording and sequencing. But thank you for that glance at the Akai front. :)

[@robertw1871]

What would you recommend in a similar price range that’s superior, and isn’t almost totally obsolete?

[@Khordmaster]

@@robertw1871 Fantom 0 series!

[@ErraticFaith]

This is Korg's tradition. Move former engines to a midrange tier - whilst they develop the actual flagship successor. Which this isn't. That will undoubtedly come later; because of the global shortage of parts. Which is why Kronos itself, PA and Prologue are all discontinued and why other pieces of hardware are now offered as VSTs. Nautilus is a good tide over for those who didn't already have a Kronos with a new coat of paint. The replacement of Karma likely because it was deep and difficult for the more casual keyboardist. I wouldn't part with it either - but then I am a long term Korg user. Not someone they need to worry overly about. Kronos remains the king until the new flagship arrives. We'll see whats announced at the delayed NAMM in a few months time. Fantom and Modx are great value for what they offer. Both have pro's and cons. However Korg users tend to prefer the brand because of its net total character. I'd rather still use my Triton than a Roland Fantom-0 and would buy one now rather than it. But thats not to say I dislike Roland at all. I have a Jupiter X downstairs afterall. Be very clear about what and why you buy. Very few instruments are obsolete. I set up a professional stage a while ago for an artist - and they had a Triton and a old Yamaha SY. Along with a much more modern montage. Don't be afraid to like what you like. You'll enjoy music more that way.

[@AndresWS]

No one does it better, Loopop is back

[@tonylancer7367]

Someone help me understand why we would want to send only two channels over USB? I see this as a perfect keyboard for Mainstage because there are 4 assignable outs, but it sounds like those 4 assignable outputs aren't exposed to your computer (which would make it even more compelling IMO).

[@michaelmewis4761]

Is having an internal Hard Drive kind of counter productive? The only reason I ask is that with my Triton classic I lost all my data when the external HD failed. I now have a SCSI2SD drive on the SCSI port so I can easily transfer data for backing up. Would it not have been easier to have something similar for the NAUTILUS?

[@digitaldiezel5870]

More impressed with your walk through than the actual product. If Kronos was Korg’s legs they would certainly be running a marathon. I’m good with it because at least there is no gas to contend with. I can stay focused on more innovative products.

[@jrosand1]

The MIDI Implimentation Chart it shows both types of Aftertouch transmitted and received.

[@1881Gordon]

This Keyboard looks to be a beast for sure. Nautilus does seem to be a very Apt name though, as it looks like you're going to have to do some very deep 'Menu Diving' to get to where you want to be. This coupled with a smaller screen must surely make for some frustration, and cursing.. Great detailed upload!

[@ssaacl99]

Hello there , your videos are of great value and i thank you for this , please if u or someone who konows can answer my question i will be very gratefull when , in sequencer mode we use the COPY FROM COMBI function do the programs in the Combi get transfered to the sequencer to the same midi chanel they were allocated to in the Combi or we have to rearrange them in the sequencer ( ex drums 10 bass 2 etc ... ,and if so how todo this thank u for any helpful answer

[@spacetoilet]

I can’t put my finger on exactly why but I find Korg gear to be so immediate and rewarding.

[@MarianoPerez]

I'm all about patches and stacking patches to get inspired to compose. I have the option of getting a used kronos 88, or modx 8, or fantom 08. Which would you recommend?

[@mikerinehart]

I have a Kronos and I would miss Karma. There's lots of cool stuff you can do with it. As far as the tabs go I like the two rows on the Kronos as opposed to the page layout.

[@pneptun]

that's EXACTLY the montage touchscreen. i bet they use the exact same manufacturer/supplier! :-D

[@mattwaters6987]

Good review.

[@synthtitan9523]

Can you also program fixed notes sequences with the arp editor? I mean play a notes sequence with just one key which then is transposed over the keyboard? If so how this be done? Thanks.

[@dartme18]

EXCELLENT review! I'm looking to purchase and information like "resistive touch screen" is super helpful! combi is plural of combo, right? I keep hearing "combis" and that sounds really weird.

[@GeorgeZwierzchowskipianomusic]

combonation is not a word.

[@GizzyDillespee]

29:51 It's good to know that Korg's priests performed whatever ritual put the ghosts into Kronos, too. I have a track/jam called We Are where the Kronos kept changing drum kits on me... but with better taste and timing than I would have. The screen was open to the "select by category" pop-up for drum kits, and I could see each new drum kit highlighted as it changed. That sort of thing happened a few times. Since yesterday, it won't stay on for very long. A lighter weight version would be great, but I have so much fun with karma. If the step sequencers were like 64 steps each of the Volca Drum step sequencer, then that would be very useful, very tempting. After watching most of this video as a refresher- I'd miss too much from the Kronos, though. Someone else probably wouldn't. That settles it.. I need to get mine fixed.

[@geoffk777]

As you pointed out, the Kronos is 7 years old already. I was hoping for a better Kronos; not a cheaper but unimproved version. The improved samples, especially for piano, are nice, but, otherwise, it seems like a step backwards from an already old instrument. I would also say that the Kronos faders can be used as drawbars, which is definitely something that an organ player would miss.

[@RMYuma]

The Korg Kronos is from 2011, so already 9 years old.

[@kanal7944]

I welcome the Nautilus. Because i prefer Arp/Drum Editor over the Karma. Four different drum parts in one program offers the possiblity for drumfills etc. Exactly that's the only thing i've missed in great Kronos. Thanks Korg

[@QrchackOfficial]

Can you do key-release samples in the HD-1 engine? How much storage is there in Nautilus vs Kronos? Is there a limit to the maximum number of samples per patch, regardless of the amount of free disk space?

[@arcadeuk]

Is it not weird for an expensive synth in 2020 to not have aftertouch? It's definitely weird for anything to have a resistive touch screen in the last 10 years 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

[@187onasimp]

At this point "Aftertouch" is just a term people whine about whether they know what it is or even really use it.

[@jumpingman8160]

@@187onasimp no, just no.

[@ErraticFaith]

Who exactly do you think is buying flagship synths? toddlers? Bedroom beginners? We know what AT is because we are industry professionals who do the job as a career. We know precisely what it does, what boards are best for it and whether or not we need it - or an artist we work with does. Korg are known for their synth specialization. Rather than Piano or Organ like team red, or Yamaha. Thus; people expecting it from korg is not surprising. That they released a limited amount of Prologues with it. And made sure that the current little 3 octave toys and be used with it - should reinforce the point. Again, this is our career focus. Don't generalize with people you don't know.

[@JohanAndresjohanskey]

I’m so disappointed, I was expecting way more than that :(

[@dirkkeersmaekers4343]

A kind of the legendary M1 look.Smart!

[@RussKarlberg]

Oasys is still the best. Karma is truly amazing. I also love the pads, extra knobs and sliders, ribbons, joysticks, etc.

[@Bod8998]

Great intro and outro

[@xus75]

does this keyboard include the "legendary" programs that come with the Kronos? I mean those sounds that replicate the instruments of some classic pop songs (Imagine, Supertramp, Journey, Beatles, etc)?

[@Wagoo]

If it was a rackmount Kronos I might be interested.. as it is why wouldn't I just get a used Kronos if I cared about the 30%? Price differential more like Montage to MODX may have made more sense, too

[@merrillsammis5109]

What recording options are there ? Can you record to USB or is there an onboard recorder?

[@MadayMaday]

You get a like for opening with Queen...

[@Axisjampa]

I have a headache just for seeing this video. And I had a Korg M50 a years ago. I see it's the same mindset to tame here, a little more complex. Thanks for the detail on the Review.

[@musiclabmn]

For that price... HOW can they get away with it? I know its MSRP and will probably drop but I get so much more out of my MODX7 and got it open box for $1199. Best synth/workstation I've ever used (so far). I wouldn't mind one of the new Fantoms someday, but they are also expensive.

[@Maxwells_Silverhammers]

Kronoa2 is king i've tried both the kronos and the natilus in live and studio situations and i'd say i'd pick the kronos over any other workstations, also karma and aftertouch are a must

I was pretty disapointed when I noticed the extra 15" screen wasn't real..

[@michaelk8642]

LOL! I thought the same thing. I had to do a double take.

[@jamesjross]

Um well.. I didn't do a double take.. I spent 15 minutes on google trying to find the monitor or some hack before I saw these comments... dum dum dum dum dum

[@jjrusy7438]

If i was just starting out, i would want this. However, i already have enough korg to twist my little mind for years to come.

[@xbowracing]

Does it load the PCG-Files from a KRONOS or OASYS?

[@bbblue11]

Very good question 🤔 I was wondering the same thing.

[@a124947]

Great video that helped me to decide on this board. Can you tell me how to get an external MIDI slider controller to control the drawbars for the CX3?

[@liviou2004]

Sell your Nautilus and buy a Kronos, you will get sliders for the CX3 engine !

[@paklimo100]

Korg Nanokontrol2

[@alanrt63]

I've been debating whether to buy a Kronos or Nautilus and I've exhaustively gone over the specifications of Kronos and Nautilus. Here is how it looks from my perspective. I don't know the intangibles that help comparison such as any differences in long term maintenance costs, expected longevity of support from Korg if Kronos discontinued, performance & overall ease of use, software and hardware component quality, whether Kronos Karma or Nautilus Arpeggiator is best choice,, etc. Bottom line - - - Is Kronos worth approximately $700 more (or $1,200 if sale ends)? What is the SAME or Extremely Similar: - 9 Sound Engines, Oscillator Control & Maximum Polyphony (though the SGX2 piano type and sounds slightly different between the two) - PCM Ram capacity - Combination Timbres - Quick Layer / Split feature - Set Lists - Sampling - Effects - Sequencer Capability - Keyboard action and size options What's DIFFERENT: - Only Kronos has Aftertouch - Kronos has more physical slider controls, knobs, buttons, etc, on panel - Kronos has KARMA with 96 preloaded Generated Effects whereas Nautilus has an Arpeggiator with 1,593 Preloaded Patterns **[Note/edit: The Nautilus Arpeggiator allows highly customizable arpeggio patterns - whereas - that more difficult or perhaps not possible via Karma on the Kronos.] - Kronos with Karma has 8 Scenes versus 4 Scenes on the Nautilus Arpeggiator - Kronos has 718 preset Drum Patterns versus 1,272 on Nautilus - Kronos has 1,792 preloaded Programs of which 896 are HD-1 & 512 preloaded Combinations ... versus Nautilus which has 1,920 preloaded Programs 1,280 of which are HD-1 & 256 preloaded Combinations (both have 2,560 slots for Programs and 1,792 slots for Combinations) - Kronos has 314 MB of Preset PCM versus 498 MB on Nautilus (though Kronos has greater quantity of multisamples and drum samples) - Kronos has 198 preloaded Wave Sequences vs 377 preloaded on Nautilus (both have a 598 capacity) - The available Built In Expansion Libraries differ - Kronos has 8" display at higher resolution than the 7" display on Nautilus - Nautilus 3 lbs lighter

[@michaelaurelius8507]

You missed one CRUCIAL aspect that justifies why the NAUTILUS is so special: USER Arps. Those astounding 1593 arps are FULLY PROGRAMMABLE. In KARMA, there's ZERO user pattern capability and instead of just being about to hit record and create a pattern, like you can on the NAUTILUS, you have to move a bunch of controls, to get close to what you want and even THEN it's not exactly what you want because it's all PRE-generated.

[@alanrt63]

@@michaelaurelius8507 yes that appears to be a limitation ... though could spend $169 for the full external KARMA software ... but that's another step and expense. From what I can gather browsing videos on the subject you CAN get pretty close to completely created user patterns via Kronos alone. Perhaps via sequencer you could achieve this and/or by assigning different programs to drum patterns? Certainly a consideration. I personally was wowed by Karma so ultimately ended up buying a Kronos instead of Nautilus ... but it was not a slam dunk easy decision. Thanks for the information.

[@alanrt63]

@@michaelaurelius8507 ... you appear to be correct Michael. In another forum I see where a Korg R&D manager admitted lack of customizable Arpeggiator feature in Kronos. Though you can probably find a Karma GE Arpeggiator pattern or the up down pattern that fits your needs, a specific user created option isn't there. My thinking was you create arpeggio type patterns and loop them in Sequencer but that not the same really. Not really with triggers on n off at ease and simply customizable like in Nautilus. I'm still learning the features ... just thinking out loud. Haven't received my Kronos yet so have been reading Operation Guide, etc. " .... The original poster asked about a "good old-fashioned arpeggiator" and a "basic arpeggiator," so that's what I was thinking of. I appreciate the desire for more onboard editing for arpeggiation patterns, as well, but I'm afraid that's not in the cards for now. Best regards, Dan _________________ Dan Phillips Manager of Product Development, Korg R&D Personal website: www.danphillips.com For technical support, please contact your Korg Distributor: www.korg.co.jp/English/Distributors/ ..."

[@alanrt63]

@@michaelaurelius8507 ... here's where someone explains using Wave Sequencing to create custom arpeggios. Not really a quick functioning arpeggiator per se but helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJioc6x5jtuXeqs

[@robertbelknap]

I just don't get Korg, what is their Obsession with scaled down Kronos's, KROSS KROME KROME EX KRONOS LS i3 And now Nautilus Don't even care what they call it Kronos 3, Kronos the Sequel, Kronos Unleashed. Can We just have it before the turn of the Century.

[@stevewoywitka3258]

Its definitely not cutting edge tec

[@PL-px3gw]

@@shadowbanned5164 I agree. But then, no aftertouch. That could have been the frosting on top of the Wavestate cake!

[@brunodadivore9606]

Well said! It seems two strategical teams at Korg. One for flagships and workstations where they seem lost in what to do to take the Yamaha, Nord and Roland train. And a second one for synths Volca, Log serie , Wavestate, OPSIX bringing something new to the world

[@dhpstudios2009]

Robert Belknap they found out that they did make a perfect machine The Kronos. Now they have to downgrade otherwise they cant ever sell synths anymore

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Agreed its very disappointing.

[@Lazarus9991]

Hi not sure if it was mentioned before in 16:00 you can see a drag access button in the lower right corner, which seems to allow to pull drawbars groupwise with a motion of your finger over the screen. Can you confirm this? Is this a new feature compared to the Kronos ? Greetings Frank

[@federicoselles5649]

hey! are they user programs and combis compatible each other??

[@drtolgaege]

Is the keybed same as Kronos 61. (Instead of aftertouch). Feeling same as Kronos ( fsx keybed ???)

[@pdtoons9121]

Still love my Kronos. I would really miss the sliders which I use primarily as drawbars. I usually use aftertouch to open up the filters which is very expressive. I have the expanded software for Karma but I never really got into it. I use the Kronos mainly in a live band setting so Karma, arpegiators and sequencers are not anything I would use on a regular basis. I rarely use the vector joystick or the ribbon. Never got into making sounds with MOD7 or STR-1. To me, the Nautilus is a step backward. I wish they had expanded on the Kronos technology. A newer motherboard with a lot more RAM and faster boot time would be a great start. The Vox and Farfisa engines from the Korg Vox Continental would be welcome as well as some additional engines such as a string machine, more synthesizer emulations and some acoustic instrument engines (ie. strings and brass). Polyphonic aftertouch, an external monitor output and a large ribbon above the keyboard would be great. Also bringing back some of the Oasys features like the lighted controls and the drum pads.

[@nitbot]

Surprising that there's no aftertouch on a workstation like this

[@johnnyparker2128]

Especially since this will be the flagship vs the Krome replacement.

[@ryanedwardmusic]

@@johnnyparker2128 Kronos is still the flagship

[@SRDhain]

Liked in seconds due to Radio Gaga performance 👍 Waiting for the next Korg workstation keyboard, as well as the op6 & SQ64, which i suspect are more imminent 🎶

[@jml19221]

It looks like they’re still working on that touchscreen that is not very responsive. I was also hoping to see a demonstration of the audio tracks either by linear recording or sample import. Either way, it looks like a step forward for Korg.

[@wolfgangmarkusgstrein8522]

Hello Sir, I am looking for a KRONOS but I am curious about when they will release a new version? In KORG's case, it may take a while and probably they come up with a whole new thing. Buying the KORG OASYS would be a "Joker" possibility. The foldable screen is very helpful especially for myopic people like I am. Is there a possibility of connecting an external screen to KRONOS? What's your opinion? Thanks for your highly skilled work! SUPER!

[@richrozmarn3817]

Looks like a great keyboard, what they did was a Montage to a MODx comparison. No after touch too. hmm.

[@robertsyrett1992]

I wonder what stopped them from using korg gadget as an OS.

[@user-qj8cg1bf5u]

Iam user of korg, how can I develop my sequencing skills, I'm using korg pa 600 ....

[@goodboid]

That screen would drive me bonkers!

[@winduberry]

I just got a nautilus and i love it besides the linear sequencer so I am using my Squarp and recording all my patterns into it. I’m just having an issue with every time I start the sequencer from the Squarp it will always go to measure 1 no matter what I do. Manual punch in, auto punch in, looping from the measures I set. Doesn’t matter always goes back to measure 1. Is this an issue in my pyramid settings or my nautilus settings? Does anyone know?

[@armend316]

With no after touch I would go for Kurzweil K2700 or Yamaha Montage even though I love Korg coming from an M1. Korg Kronos 2 88keys for me! Thank you!

[@markquavertune2003]

Thank you .An interesting video .Needs more physical controls and less menu diving .I get that it appeals to a mobile phone generation .Nice instruments and sounds .The drum and sound dials should have their own knobs and there should a physical sequencer with physical pads .An editor would do a lot to appeal to me .Worth a second look when it has an editor .

[@Seekthetruth3000]

Great review. I think a Kronos is a better option for me.

[@sarbaazchabahar]

Neh.... I will just save up and get a Kronos....😎

[@alanrt63]

I had a Nautilus on order but switched and bought a Kronos. I'm intrigued with Karma. The HD1 samples on Nautilus probably will be available at some point or similar available. The bigger display and all the panel controls, aftertouch, seems worth price difference of $700 at least before Kronos reverts back to normal price on Jan 1st. I'm back to playing again after decades layoff following neck surgery. Wanted the best available workstation at moment. Nautilus very tempting though ... even more when price difference goes back to, $1,200 not $700.

[@sarbaazchabahar]

@@alanrt63 Agreed! And congrats on getting the Kronos. Worth it🎹✌️

[@mlgl9728]

Not a big difference in price here in Europe between both...the Kronos still blows the Nautilus out of the water...

[@miekwavesoundlab]

I own Motif XF and thinking about getting Fantom or Ntalus or MontageM. I use the XF Pattern Sequencer mode the most. Does Natalia engines have Realtime sequencer mode to play phases on keys?

[@RonaldFigura]

Minor technical point, if it's like the Kronos, in Combi mode the "channels" are known as "timbres". Helps alleviate confusing them with MIDI channels. On a workstation as deep as this, nomenclature precision is a must.

[@loopop]

In general I totally agree - I just couldn't get with the timbre program since it's frequently used for something different on every other instrument. I don't think I use the term channel though? I mainly called it tracks (and I agree that technically tracks are for the sequencer and timbres are for combis)

[@RonaldFigura]

@@loopop understood. I'm on the Korg Forums constantly and getting and giving help on the Kronos can be challenging. I use KARMA minimally. I've found making adjustments on the control surface is almost intuitive. Digging in deeper is challenging. I've used the Sequencer a bit. The more you use it, the easier it becomes, but it's a bit fiddly. Event editing is a good tool when you select the right track! Thanks for the overview. The community had this as a "leak" just days ago. I'm waiting for the Kronos successor.

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

It always seems that in spite of the sound engines between the flagship model and the 'scaled down' version being 'identical', the scaled down version sounds thinner. This seems to be across the board with most makes. Perhaps it's the D to A convertors or something or just less sample rom. This sounds great but how would it fare side by side with a Kronos?

[@arindamdas936]

2 ARPs and a drum track...this started like 15 yrs back with the M50. And now ladies and gentle man, KORG presents......oh almost the same concept. Anyone who can manage create a professional sounding user ARP pattern using this keyboard should be nominated for the OSCARs.

[@craigbroadfoot1851]

The Triton had this back in the day plus an extremely nice Yamaha keyboard with aftertouch and built like a tank - it does seem like one step forward two steps back with modern workstations, and for this price it’s ridiculous. Maybe there just isn’t the market there used to be?

[@abc456f]

I'm still playing my M50-88. I use it with Cakewalk, Kontakt 7, Komplete 14 standard. It's really way more than I'll ever need. But I'm getting an inch to upgrade my keyboard and I'm totally confused on which way to go. I'm not into creating my own sounds, but I do want one with the arp/drum track. This nautilus is over kill for me but I still like it. Been looking at the Studiologic keyboards. I could use someone like the OP to help me wade through the choices.

[@wimwijn1]

Karma for me was the icing on the cake, and with all the controls missing, the lesser screen, i would spend the extra buck for the Kronos

[@andersjeppsson8499]

100% this is useless. Either a Kronos or other options like the Yamaha...

[@alicaramba7680]

@@andersjeppsson8499 I disagree. And I don't think Yamaha or other manufacturers has Karma on they keyboards either.

[@ErraticFaith]

Karma is a special piece of kit indeed. No not everyone needs it, or understands it. But those who do - won't be without it. It's a simple enough distinction. Yamaha and Roland et al exist primarily in other areas. Korg is the synth King in regards to their net direction. They have some of the best sampling and experimental engineering in the business. So keep in mind who you are dealing with.

[@DanielMorales-qp8rf]

Inthink Nautilus is a great instrument. Its core sound is a kronos. It would be enough for many enthusiasts. What i am actually waiting for is a new kronos. You know they are making it but keeping it under wraps. If i werevto recommend improvements for a new kronos, they would be adding a larger hardrive, add more ram memory for samples and definitely add more synthesis engines besides the nine presently offered. This would require it to have a quicker or more advanced cpu right.? Korg is an amazing company. I still have the Triton classic. It has great programming tools. Until thisvday in music it is still viable. But yes i cant wait.

[@jwillis35]

I really think this is the new Krome, only called Nautilus. For the 61 key version if the price cones down to $1749 then I could see this being a solid buy. Yes, minimal and clean front panel like an old M1 but with 9 sound engines, sampling, audio rec, sequencing and a more practical arpeggiator vs Karma, this becomes a vastly scaled up Krome. Can be great for sound design, work with your DAW (since it can hook to MIDI controllers, and you can take your samples from various libraries with you for live performance. $2000 might be a little steep for this now but I expect the price to come down. I have this feeling Krome will be phased out with this on the market now. I can see them ramping up the power in Kross, and my feeling is the new Kronos (or whatever they call it) is going to break some new ground. Perhaps updates of the 9 sound engines you see here. Not sure if Karma will continue. I'm hoping for more of an Ableton or FL Studio type sequencer for MIDI and Audio and perhaps more realistic orchestral sound libraries similar to East West, Cinesamples, VSL, Spitfire, etc. With the right audio interface and thunderbolt support this would allow professional scoring without having to run lots of VST plugs in the computer that eat up ram and often require using multiple computers. If the sample architecture was open enough that we could actually load something like EW Symphonic Orchestra Gold or Platinum on the board with everything locking to the DAW (or work stand alone on the synth) that would be very cool.

[@louwilliam8746]

I've tested a lot of keyboards and to me this was one of the most well balanced workstations, which can allow the user to play practically any genre. The only keyboard I would consider buying under $2000 is the Roland FA06.