Super Mario Bros. - SPECIAL Edition!

[@Kosmicd12]

This is a Frantik appreciation thread. Let him know 🙏 also here's his romhacking dot net profile: www.romhacking.net/community/927/

[@ricardopurnell3923]

Netyet

[@BastianTheGreatestCreatorEver]

@@ricardopurnell3923 bro ur everywhere

[@Unused-b4j]

yez!11

[@BrickmanZero]

I'm glad i could catch the stream (i'm Brickzero lol) it was truly special! ^^

[@EebstertheGreat]

When Frantik ported this game back to an SMB1 hack, did he make any notable changes besides the title screen and start of the credits?

[@legoboy7107]

The "Hello!" easter egg in 4-2 actually has both a hidden 1-up and a hidden power-up block above each of the L's, so it's not completely pointless, in the original at least you can actually farm 1-ups there.

[@travelreview5962]

No it doesn't...

[@ditchencatastrophic5951]

@@travelreview5962 Thank you for sharing!

[@legoboy7107]

@@travelreview5962 Yes it does, I've utilized it to farm 1-ups many times.

[@legoboy7107]

@@ditchencatastrophic5951 He's wrong, though.

[@thexbigxgreen]

I love how committed Kosmic is to learning the mechanics of every romhack, at the expense of all else lol

[@varietychan]

Technically this isn't a romhack

@@varietychan Why is it not? It wasn't made with the original NES dev tools 🤔

[@genuinealloy8316]

@ Because it's official

@@genuinealloy8316 This isn't official. This is a recreation of an official game, but this version right here isn't official at all.

[@paxhumana2015]

@ , who the fuck cares? Nintendo should make it legal.

[@oldtimegames96]

kosmic's aim in every ROM hack Wednesday: get infinite 1 ups, an 8000 shell kick, and small fire Mario.

[@NullScar]

Finding softlocks? 🙂

[@oldtimegames96]

@@NullScar I completely forgot about that XD

[@NullScar]

@@oldtimegames96 No problem, I just see it easy because 1/1000 piece of my broken heart belongs to softlocks. The rest belongs to out of bounds glitches. 🙃

[@EGarrett01]

And wall clip.

[@oldtimegames96]

@@EGarrett01 XD you guys will find things to keep my list expanding, won't ya XD

[@volts420]

I love all of the unnecessary clips that Kosmic does. And he just giggles to him self afterwards. Always something to look forward to!

[@curtisholsinger6023]

Same. Those are always a delight

[@koopakape]

Man I really really love this. . I've tried playing the original SMB Special before but it's very hard to get used to the various limitations of the system it's on, but transferring it so faithfully to SMB1's engine like this but with everything unique intact is just what I've always wanted to see. And the game itself is really sick -- there's more different about it I feel than the true sequel or many player hacks over the years, just little things as Kosmic menetioned like all the unique block patterns or how seemingly every single pre-flag staircase or bonus area is totally unique, some really cool ideas like the 'sub-water' blue areas and levels-within-levels kinda like SMB3 and World do, awesome powerups including what seemingly inspired Nintendo themselves to make the P-Wing, cute easter eggs, and even these little touches like allowing multiple powerups onscreen simultaneously and actually being able to hurt piranha plants with shells... all around way cooler and better than I frankly expected going in to this vid, and now I gotta play it myself!

[@clothinghanger6978]

14:46 your infinite 1-up trick was killed by finding a 1-up

[@legoboy7107]

6:23 Yeah, in the real SMB Special, you didn't have to be standing on ground to enter pipes like in SMB1, so you could actually go through both those pipes (8-4 in the PC version actually requires this, there's a pipe just in the wall above lava and no ground to land on, you just jump into the wall and hold right and you still enter the pipe).

[@the-engneer]

You know alot about this game. I think it's cool to hear your knowledge of it

[@legoboy7107]

@@the-engneer Thank you! Yeah, I first got really into SMB Special and the other Hudson Mario games like 5 or 6 years ago and I've played through and beaten OG SMB Special multiple times because I unironically like playing it (Specifically the Sharp X1 version, the more well known PC-88 version sucks lol), I probably know more about Hudson's PC Mario games than most people so feel free to ask anything you're curious about!

[@the-engneer]

@@legoboy7107 What is the other Mario you speak of?

[@legoboy7107]

@@the-engneer There's also Punch Ball Mario Bros. and Mario Bros. Special, both based on the game Mario Bros., the game before Super Mario Bros., and then there's Donkey Kong 3: The Great Counterstrike, based on Donkey Kong 3.

[@the-engneer]

@@legoboy7107 Are any of them good games? What's the Donkey Kong port like?

[@Iamanothing]

6:52 the music foreshadowing that death 😄

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Yep

[@q1006662]

The level designers' salaries must have been based on how many fire flowers they included in each level.

[@BrianzMyth]

ROM Hack Wednesday! Like my favorite thing the last 2 months

[@letsfailgaming9850]

29:40 Nintendo rejected Hudson, but then was like "that castle had really good design." *slaps it into SML2* "it's Mario's castle"

[@Tuntor689]

“Time to celebrate Mario’s 35th anniversary by making a rom hack!” Nintendo: “no it’s not”

[@BinglesP]

6:12 I love how casually he performs the double/wall jump trick, goes to show how much SMB1 he’s played

[@louspowels7120]

"a bunch of custom power-ups" The Hammer and Wing are the only custom power-ups. Custom items are Hachisuke (Hudson Soft bee) in 1-1 gives 8000 pts, The Clock in 8-3 adds 100 seconds to timer+1000 pts and the Lucky Star in 4-1 giving 1000 pts and acting like a Moon-Kill in SMMaker2.

[@Disbanded9998]

Mario forever have 2 powerups too yet they feel so special

[@legoboy7107]

2:36 Yeah, many of the levels in SMB Special are just altered/remixed versions of levels from SMB1 (though some of them are pretty creative in how they do it) as it technically was a "port," so yeah, many little sections like that are VERY similar or even identical to SMB1. Same reason why 1-3 is almost identical. It looks like Hudson when making this "port" was just trying to recreate the levels roughly, but doing a 1-to-1 recreation would be too tedious so they got the basic level structure, then decided to do their own spin on said levels and also add some completely brand new ones. Like how 8-1 is basically original aside from the row of bricks with the star somewhere in the level, while 8-2 is basically a remixed SMB1 8-3 but with arguably more interesting tiling with the brick wall because it has an actual castle building in it.

[@whoeverest_the_whateverest]

Wait. If it's just a port in the first place originally, how many of the new things (enemies and powerups) that is introduced in this romhack were actually in the original game? (SMB Special I mean, not SMB)

[@legoboy7107]

@@whoeverest_the_whateverest Everything new that this rom hack introduces was in the original Smb Special. What I was saying though was that the original Smb Special was technically a pc "port" (in quotes because they built it from scratch since they couldn't actually port smb1 to the pcs of that day) of smb1, as opposed to really a sequel proper, but where Hudson decided to remix much of the game so that it has many differences and new stuff.

[@whoeverest_the_whateverest]

@@legoboy7107 thnx. It's interesting how a plenty of new objects that I thought were first time introduced in SMB3 are actually directly (or not so) taken from this port, like paragoombas and some other staff

[@the-engneer]

@@legoboy7107 where can I find the actual PC version?

[@legoboy7107]

​@@the-engneer I wish I could tell you but for whatever reason YT won't let me comment, no matter what. So just search it up, there's one article in particular that includes the actual games. I had given you a lot of details but sadly it won't let me post them here.

[@legoboy7107]

30:11 Yes, it does do that whole ending sequence with the credits on the original. As for warps...there are no warps. There's one pipe that in the original is located where you'd think a warp would be, in 4-2 I believe, but in the original it just softlocks you as the pipe leads nowhere, you just get stuck in it until the timer runs out.

[@siraxlrose5659]

The softlocks were fixed in this hack iirc

[@travelreview5962]

4-3 i believe it is... but... WHAT THE FCK DO I KNOW???

[@hhhhhhhhhhhhh...]

@@travelreview5962 i like watching you say something completely wrong and then immediately get butthurt before anyone is even able to see your comment

[@legoboy7107]

@@travelreview5962 No, it's 4-2, it's an underground level and in the same location as in regular SMB1 (since most of Special's levels are really just heavily tweaked remixes of the original SMB1 counterparts).

[@almightytora]

7:52 - The good ol' tens digit of the score matches the ones digit of the clock 1UP trick.

[@ckv1985]

13:52

[@macethorns1168]

Your joy while playing this was fantastic.

[@craigmcshannon3806]

An 8000 pt. shell kick right out of the chute? What is this madness!!??

[@travelreview5962]

Actually I watched his stream and he tried for that kick for over an hour. Kosmic actually misleads the YT only viewers a lot. Like on steam get got a 4:54.03 but he refuses to show yall, he said he's going to post it one day like he just got it but we watched him do it a long time ago. Also most of the time he is hacking. I helped make his hacks, one thing they do is make the hit boxes on pirhana plants and fire bars in the castles go away.

[@llSuperSnivyll]

30:00 I just checked that blind firebar in the original version. The two firebars are present in the same screen, so the fact it's a blind jump is completely unintentional.

[@boss_boy_]

26:01 that edit made the music sync up smoooooth

[@jess648]

the underground palette looks really nice

[@itshighmewn8174]

This is super cool! So happy to see restoration/preservation works like this, especially since the original Special edition was so obscure.

[@RaynmanPlays]

I was so excited to see the sidesteppers and fighterflies. That's amazing that they included them.

[@neoshazam]

Bowser hammer kill was hilarious

[@-Keith-]

From 1:10 to 1:25, you unintentionally caused in-game sound effects to line up almost perfectly with the tempo of the game music.

[@shantilkhadatkar1195]

Wdym?

[@-Keith-]

@@shantilkhadatkar1195 He either jumps, or lands on an enemy, or has an enemy rebound off a pipe, or gathers a power up at the same time that the notes play in the level theme.

[@shantilkhadatkar1195]

Ahh right Got it

[@siraxlrose5659]

1:13 don't worry bismuth, you did great 🙂

[@Auroxen]

I am so happy to see this, I played the old hack some years ago and always wished for a more complete port like this

[@3rdalbum]

Oh wow, the hammer kill on Bowser was awesome! I never thought it would last long enough.

[@TommyVinMI]

Bonus levels in castles make sense. Bowser and the koopalings would of course have rooms of money like Scrooge McDuck.

[@Arcad3n]

This game is so fun, you can feel the soul of the level designer when you play it.

[@TheAdvertisement]

We've finally done it, we've achieved the special version of Mario Bros. Special.

[@seanlouisoliveros414]

Yo the moving fire thing at 29:47 transitioned perfectly into the subreddit link that was kinda sick

[@YurificationTrademark]

I'd absolutely love to see you speedrunning romhacks. Not as in a competitive way, but it's fun to speedrun something new and unique like that.

[@Raymix1000]

I was surfing through the Internet because I heard of SMB Special, and I'm glad I got to see you try it out. Also, in terms of 2-3 and 6-3 where you got the 1UP on the flagpole, the reason you got it on those two levels is because you were able to collect every coin on those courses. I hope that helps.

[@Alfred-Neuman]

You are probably right. BTW... Did you know that March 10th is known as Mario Day? It's celebrated by fans of the franchise around the world. The holiday was created because the abbreviation for March 10th (Mar10).

[@MikeCrain]

It's always cool when I find out there's stuff like this or the rejected Mario 3 PC port. The power ups were very underutilized especially with how temporary and rare they are and are all fairly well hidden.

[@jaysonl]

Okay.... you saying "Gaming!" as you fall down a bottomless pit is hilarity on par with ManlyBadassHero yelling "Seeecret!" as he yeets himself off a cliff. Watching you play around with these romhacks is quickly becoming some of my favorite content on KZbin.

[@KenSch2020]

Small fire works with this game the guy from blue television games accidentally got small fire in the game and was confused why he was small with fire. He even hit Bowser when he was jumping on the ax and had the double death glitch.

[@diddypancakes4430]

Kosmic's videos are just so entertaining at times it feels like this isn't something a whole lot of people aren't interested in but its my kind of humor somehow. Keep it up Kosmic you're awesome

[@matju2]

Adventure Island 1 had the icicles too. It was made by Hudson & released in 1986 in Japan, 1987 elsewhere.

[@AnatoliiGD31415]

31:09 The transition is PERFECT!!!

[@ReReCoil]

6:46 The original Mario Maker Troll

[@RaposaCadela]

What an awesome rom-hack!! Props to the original game aswell, it was the first one that really went crazy with it, before SML even

[@shalomedrake4507]

I started watching ur channel just wanting to start speed running now every Wednesday I look forward to Romhack Wednesdays:)

[@NullScar]

Have you started any speedruns yet? If yes; how is it going?

[@shalomedrake4507]

@@NullScar I've started smb1 speed runs I've be practicing for about 7 months I got a 5:02 two weeks ago:). Do you speedrun?

[@NullScar]

@@shalomedrake4507 Nice time! I haven't done speedrunning on the clock, but I feel I am capable because of my playing style. I wanted to speedrun early far cry games, but realistically I feel I might be better in resident evil games. Nowadays I mainly focus on finding glitches/exploits and out-of-bounds is my favorite to search for in any game. 🙃

[@Kosmicd12]

@@shalomedrake4507 nice time!

[@the-engneer]

@@NullScar You talking Farcry 1 or 2? Never even thought of speedrunning one of those games, but I do really like them

[@Tailstraw_xD]

10:14 "I can just ride it down and get the points!" -Man who did, in fact, ride it down and get the points.

[@birthdaydeathbed]

The intro music is Creative Exercise from Mario Paint, for anyone wondering

[@professorxgaming2070]

Small fire with hammer looked like Mario was lighting a pipe

[@bes03c]

That bowser quick kill was amazing.

[@beesod6412]

I love all these rom hacks you play, thanks for the quality content.

[@DigiEggz]

The pallettes in this game have a refreshing feel to them.

[@Skylerthebean]

I've seen this version of Super Mario Bros about a couple months ago and I'll say ITS SOMETHING SPECIAL!

[@Jackiechanfan79]

The crab things and the flies and the the falling ice is from the original mario Bros and that hammer was from donkey Kong

[@AtanoKSi]

honestly I wouldn't mind there was a way to add all if this items and enemies were added to a fresh rom to be able to make your own romhacks with them, This looks awesome and I love it

[@gameyfirebro9645]

Icicles debuted in Mario Bros., reappeared in Special, eventually appearing in NSMBWii, then 2 and U, then SMM2. Their appearance and behaviors in SMM2 are based on U, which is the same as Wii and 2. Despite huge icicles existing in all 3 New series games, you cannot use mushrooms on em. If only, as the big ones don't shatter upon landing, and instead bury themselves in the floor, acting as platforms. Those would've been great in SMM2.

[@AlexanderChilds]

Don't know if you caught this, the transition from 1-1 to 1-2, where you said, "Wait, I have to move to the pipe?"... the time counts down and continues through 1-2.

[@buivars]

Intro music is "Creative Exercise - Mario Paint" I read the description. Give me my award now, coward!

[@dacolts24]

One of my favorite people to watch, no drama just fun times and smiles

[@Ccody47]

It's awesome watching Kosmic play. Great at the game and genuinely enjoys playing Mario of all types, not just doing it for content.

[@xaccount6604]

Level desing is way more better than original smb.

[@fluffycritter]

I love all the subtle color changes to make it look more like the PC CGA colors.

[@NinetyLegos]

Kosmic on 4-2 screen: "Dont tell me thats a star" Me: Ok I wont

[@KremBotop]

Would absolutely love to see him speedrun that SMB Crossover flash fan game.

[@Vel_0000]

Oh, THIS game... I've made a few TAS-es of the first NES "port", but now are in my private vids

[@KidPlays42]

Oo another rom hack Wednesday! My fav

[@yozarian86]

16:20 I’ve done something like that in Mario maker. I made a pipe to a whole complex dead end sky room with bouncing blocks spelling out No Point.

[@spaddaps9787]

btw kosmic the reason you got the 1up is because if you get to the top of the pole the game will reward you with a 1up

[@Kosmicd12]

that only started to be a thing in New Super Mario Bros.

[@spaddaps9787]

@@Kosmicd12 oh...

[@travelreview5962]

Killing Bowser: 4000 points Shell kick : 8000 points Watching Kosmic destroy a podoboo with a hammer: MuthaFkin Priceless

[@mint0012]

*2:30 am* wake up babe, new kosmic dropped

[@kumabmx7981]

In the original you get bonus ending if you get all the hudson bees

[@Raymix1000]

There's only one Hudson Bee and it's in 1-1, at least from what I've read.

[@aleksitjvladica.]

[19:48] Help Me Stepper Marion, I am stuck! Edit: I missed the bus for five minutes...

[@legoboy7107]

Edit: Whoops, I typed this just before I got to the point in the video where someone in chat pointed this out lol. 5:10 The reason the flagpole, castles, and well, everything that goes to the top of the screen is a block shorter is because the screen on the PC-88 and SharpX1, which the real SMB Special was made for, was a block shorter than the screen for the NES, the aspect ratio was very different and all. Whereas the NES was 4:3, the PCs were widescreen but also a tile shorter, so Hudson had to fit everything into that and had to lower some things. Super Mario Bros. Crossover, when it added SMB Special as a map, tried to raise things back up again, but in doing so actually created a softlock in 1-2 so yay. In this romhack it says accurate to the real SMB Special.

[@cold_warrior]

Wow, I've been waiting for this, finally I can watch some special Mario

[@staudinga]

34:00 great, now I can never unsee the Hudson bee monkey

[@Pixelman546]

My biggest problem with the OG Mario special on PC was the lack of screen scroll

[@ZX3000GT1]

The unfortunate reason being a lot of PCs of that era didn't have hardware scrolling capabilities, since most of them were made as business PCs in mind (especially Japan and their reliance to high-res display to properly display Kana/Kanji characters). C64 is one of the few PC to have hardware scrolling, but that's due to C64's more focus to gaming compared to other PCs.

[@GigaBoost]

@@ZX3000GT1 It's kind of wild to realize that it was a huge technical breakthrough when Apogee made smooth scrolling on PC a reality.

[@DarkLink1996.]

The original SMB Special didn't have any warp zones. It that a place that should've been one in 4-2, but it softlocks you. Mario Crossover turned it into a special room. No clue what it does in this version.

[@lukahmad5683]

Buzzy Beetle is so cute when I first saw them when I was kid. My mom called them Buzzy Beatles cus the shell looks like Beatles haircut lol

[@bungusbajablast2877]

they probably had to do a massive object refactor, there's trees and bill blasters in the same level

[@Kenny.show_YT]

Amazing play through! Super Mario bros. special is quite the wacky game.

[@MeesterTweester]

Yay, SMB Special!

[@diddypancakes4430]

I think Kosmic got me into Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. 2 (Japan) genuinely. Why is it that when he laughs at something in the game I laugh too because I understand it?? Like really tall trees and getting the star that was stuck in a brick block. Like do you understand how big of a deal it is when two powerups are on screen at once???? Couldn't understand that the same without Kosmic entering me into this realm of SMB

[@LITTLE1994]

Yeah, the kind of Super Mario Bros everyone always forgets about.

[@DaBrown]

This is my second video I watched of yours - great job. I see that in your description you may not know the intro song. It's from Mario Paint, the song is called Creative Exercise.

[@thenesmaster9708]

When will you play the Giana Sisters?

[@singlereedenjoyer]

Or Strange Mario Bros.

[@Chungenour]

Kosmic making Pog content like always

[@claytonbaber]

I've completed 3-4 with the hammer strat and 245 left on the in game timer. Put me down as the world record holder until you can best it.

[@chocolixo]

Man, this game has some fun level ideas

[@tzarg]

chapters: 1:40 omg happi starr 3:02 upside down pipes, but not even in the lost levels flipped kinda way 5:29 pink pipe 9:28 hidden block with other item inside 9:45 two powerups on screen at the same time 10:55 wing (new powerup) 12:14 hammer and barrel (old powerup) 13:58 other wing 14:18 OTHER wing 15:22 icicles + multiple tilesets on screen 15:46 "sidesteppers" 18:07 flies? and donkey kong hammer 18:51 omg??? koopa shell kill piranha? omg 19:22 sidesteppers again 20:32 ICICILES 22:31 old oil barrels 24:43 more barrelele 25:42 sidestepprs 28:35 flies 29:21 barrels AND fire oil spill guys from dk arcade? woah 29:38 special-only castle 30:00 icicles 30:40 3D world ahh +100 watch (new power-up) 31:11 moer custom enemy sutff 34:00 8000 pt shell kick- I mean- HUDSON BEE!!! 34:24 lucky star (omg liek the... shut up? ok)

[@ghyuty17]

19:58 skill

[@MCastleberry1980]

Honestly, if these are legit recreations of SMB Special using the SMB engine, the problem with that game at least wasn't level design

[@TransRoofKorean]

Before Mario Maker, you also had the icicles in the old Mario Bros arcade game... I can't remember if it was in all versions, if it was in the Super Mario All-Stars vs. mode one, but it was definitely in one of them -- I think one I used to play on my old Apple II I remember that whole arena freezing over, and I *think* it had the falling icicles. Definitely had icicles anyway.

[@Kosmicd12]

Right I wondered later if maybe they came from there. I know the freezie guy is there and freezes platforms

[@607]

I love the puzzle in 7-4!

[@Cocachao]

Better call SNT, this is really SPECIAL

[@Hatsune_Miku]

special

[@mr.eyeballs2307]

R.I.P., Tiny Little Bush Piece.

[@GMPranav]

Love Bowser kill with hammer lmao

[@Fearagen]

Here after the video came out of the factory.

[@tzarg]

so I've heard from this channel that only 1-1 has no Parana's in SMB1, and also been shown that only 1 powerup can be on screen at the time, so did they like change a lot of the code in SMB1 to make in be as close to SMBS as possible? cuz that's so cool

[@Xetaas]

The intro music is kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3S1c2iEbbGEhJY (Creative Exercise from Mario Paint), in case you were still needing it for the description

[@Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

congrats you read the description. I was about to writing it and you pace me.

[@zzstoner]

That game knew Kaizo blocks and Trolls before they were ever a thing in games.