We Built Cars With TERRIBLE Power Curves! (Automation | BeamNG Multiplayer)

[@darealkosmo]

Check out Butch! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6LWl6h6fqZ1n7Msi=vDukLnFoouRdWM6W

[@BLKBRD-SR71]

Another hilarious video. 😎

[@Astro_Dog777]

The door handles need to be reversed bc the handle is supposed to be at the back.

[@cameronwhite2760]

Now you need to do overpowered large bore engines with a minimum of 8L displacement. Aim for 2000hp

[@unicronneedsfood1446]

900 lb ft of torque in a 6.8 liter v12 running nitromethane is the most ridiculously inefficient engine I have ever heard of 😂

[@isaiahking4165]

From a NA engine at 500rpm? I could only imagine a 10 liter diesel putting out similar numbers NA. I think if the goal was to make a very inefficient engine he failed. This dude doesn't seem to know a whole lot about how engines work. He says he wants high rpm, then sets the valve springs all the way soft, then cant figure out why it wont rev. Also said 6 carbs wouldn't work, why wouldn't they? The fuel delivery is driven by vacuum. He definitely can say some key words though.

[@unicronneedsfood1446]

@isaiahking4165 yeah the valve springs pissed me off too. Also the rpm doesn't matter so much for torque, it's horsepower that is torque*rpm. Torque is generated from the force of the piston moving down in the bore, so from a massive displacement and stroke length, a large torque number at a low rpm makes a lot of sense. You also have to remember it is nitromethane, those engines on average have a crazy displacement ratio of something like 90lb-ft/lb. From a 6.8 liter v12? Man bro that should be about 500000 horsepower. And it makes 900. Also if you watched the video to the end you would know that it actually is so ridiculously inefficient that the torque output becomes negative in the games samples for above 2000 rpm.

[@unicronneedsfood1446]

@@isaiahking4165 also not really a 10 liter diesel, maybe, but really all you want is a longer stroke length for a torque output at a lower rpm like that. Basically how I learned it in school, oversquare engines will be more rev happy and produce a higher horsepower than torque number. -- an under square engine will produce more torque than horsepower, and be less rev happy because the piston has to physically travel a longer distance so it is actually moving faster and under more load than an oversquare engine at the same RPM. You can also think about your connecting rod as a lever, the longer it is the more it multiplies the combustion force at the large end of the rod, with the same amount of fuel/air by volume (as long as you discount that you will need more energy to overcome the extra weight and inertia of the larger rotating assembly.) It's best to learn about the principles of mechanical physics in an ideal scenario, no friction or weight etc, atleast in the most basic form. If you don't care to do any math.

[@AD_RC]

Cadillacs in the 70s making 120hp with an 8L v8

[@unicronneedsfood1446]

@@AD_RC when you consider all the emissions shit they had to deal with its not the worst. Those engines were made in a time where you made power by dumping fuel into the intake ports and supplying air only by vacuum. Forced induction was not a thing! I would criticize the cars for weighing 9000 pounds and being on 175/60R15 tires. Not so much the engine. Where if you just tear out all of the emissions hoses other than PCV and mount an aftermarket carburetor, or an oem one before the emissions ban of 1971. You do big block things, and make around 500 horsepower. If you haven't done anything with those motors I heavily encourage you to slap one in whatever eurocar you drive. And I know you drive one. The German kids are the only people who say this because anybody else doesn't know anything about their car, drives a JDM, which is largely inspired by robust American design internally. Or Knows enough about engines to know exactly how an 8 liter (500cui) v8 can make an anemic amount of horsepower. It's the same concept as the geo metro, squeezing as much power as what it can out of such a small motor. Just in the inverse of being a large motor. You see back in the 70s the average American wouldn't buy a car if it didn't have a v8. So really they did what they could. You could also criticize GM for their notorious electrical issues. Or the fact that a lot of those old caddies didn't have sway bars. ALSO the motor in the chrysler imperial is much worse than the cadillac 500 ever was. Those things actually break. The 0-60 time is never. Atleast an 8L v8 could drag ass up to 75, which is the speed limit on most highways.

[@Echocompany2-7]

He’s channeling his inner “GM in the 1970’s somehow making an 8.4 liter v8 make 112 horsepower” type energy

[@stormrigsng]

@@Echocompany2-7 that was just cause of the oil crisis, but it is hilarious

[@frayziedaisy]

cam profile is soo low that when it enters high rpm it’s limiting itself with injecting wayyyy too late therefore you get no power and beamng is right there, its negative just like if you coast your engine but worse bugged out a little bit but it seemed okay xD

[@KarolOfGutovo]

I was wondering if they'd notice that saying an engine has 12k rev limit doesn't magically make it capable of actually generating power above 1.5k

[@mmhmnms]

therapist: kosmo's shrekmobile isnt real and cant hurt you kosmo's shrekmobile: 19:22

[@qwer9467]

7:34 the valves are at 3627ºC. Tungsten (the metal with the highest melting point) melts at 3400ºC. Sir, you've effectively built a metallurgical furnace

[@yournormaluser...]

"Let's try the CBT" -Butch

[@connorschell3252]

calling viper slow is diabolical

[@houseking9211]

I wasn't gonna say anything because maybe beamng doesn't make sense and these engines will work, but there was absolutely no point in setting the redline to 12k in automation because the engine will literally die if it has zero torque, it can't spin itself or any accessories, not even in neutral. So you essentially have a redline of 2-3k like both of you ended up with, you could've made it more interesting if you either actually tried to make it weird at super low revs, or tried to make a super high reving car that makes say 30ftlbs at redline at 500 at 1k rpm

[@darealkosmo]

Indeed, lots of ways to go about it, but we had no clue how the game would behave as it was our first time doing something like this! Maybe we can revisit the idea in the future with similar concept but a little more sense :)

[@houseking9211]

@@darealkosmo That's fair, this was very weird and beamng clearly didn't know what to do, considering it threw negative torque values.

[@gergoilles-nemeth9021]

5:13 "Faliure due to valve float" 5:17 " Oh, If I stiffen the valve springs and lifters that helps" :I

[@General_Madness]

@@gergoilles-nemeth9021 yeah that’s how to stop valve float

[@kitty.x3]

..thats how springs and lifters work

[@Omar_ZX]

That's how it works

[@dakotadennett6979]

Light bulb came on when he reduced compression also… some wild concepts going on here 😂

[@madsquishington8283]

Sets valves and lifters to 0 and then talks about wanting it to rev high, immediately shows lifters failure and knock and his solution is to start moving random exhaust sliders. Idk if he has no idea what he's doing or if he just turned his brain off for a minute, but it's tough o watch.

[@ShreN_]

Low bore and high stroke -> more torque High bore and low stroke -> more rpm (more hp)

[@adamferrell2660]

Yall need to do more automation videos, love these. Also you should make a car with the smallest engine and biggest turbo! 😊

[@chemze]

I build 153cc engine(line 3) with 104hp, but I don't use Huge turbo. Huge turbos is not working with small volume. But if I use nitrometh, this engine can already produce ~300hp UPD: 353-362hp with peak torque on 10900-11500rpm. Useless engine, but fun)

[@knallerbserich]

@@adamferrell2660 you should definitively check out on GrogTV, he has some funny automation videos

[@crudbeans8905]

grog did that

[@knallerbserich]

@@crudbeans8905 grogtv is a legend

[@alondite215]

The sound is probably there, but with the engine design and ultra low revs its probably just too quiet to hear. Superchargers are coming to Automation in the Al-Rilma update due out sometime before the end of the year, as well as a bunch of updated calculations which should make it an even more authentic car-builder with more potential for interesting builds.

[@roguewolfproduction3819]

1 liter 6 cylinder engines built for each other.

[@SCPlayz7000]

Grogtv Collab?

[@marluna_x]

Greetings fellow bean solider!

[@ronaldjensen9919]

@@SCPlayz7000 we do eht

[@klopson9700k]

Ben.

[@One_Glove_Rider]

That would be good

[@bezoekers]

Yes...

[@jamesTBurke]

@20:09 new achievement unlocked "herbie doors"

[@kuntalsaha3990]

If you edit the rpm torque hp file you need to put engine sound files for those extra rpms also as it was not generated from automation to beamNG export.

[@darealkosmo]

noted!

[@LadyCee0711]

23:45 - You two have such bright futures in making your own sound effects… 😂

[@robot797]

I so want rotary engine in this game!!!

[@darealkosmo]

Same!! and single cylinder

[@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem]

@@deeznoots6241 idgaf i want it now

[@KmKatsuko]

7:46 The engine lines: YEET!

[@CameronClark-y7p]

@@KmKatsuko The engine lines? 🤔

[@v1sual3rr0r]

Where did you grow up that a Viper was referred to as all noise and no go? Just curious as the Viper has never been considered a slow car.

[@darealkosmo]

NYC was the first time I recall hearing that comment made 😅 They are undeniably fast cars, I just think the comment came from someone who considered the murica hell yeah 8.3L V10 to be quite excessive for what much smaller displacement engines could also accomplish 🤷‍♂️ to each their own right haha.

[@narrativeless404]

18:16 "With this sacred treasure i summon"

[@Creeperboy099]

Your build feels very vaguely like something TVR would have made

[@ilasq]

the top gear trio would go crazy if they had automation and beamng

[@mikejefferys]

Nope not saying it 😂

[@Bawed]

Its mr bean's car

[@StargæI]

@@Bawed lol! 😎

[@Bawed]

@@StargæI lol

[@GarryBestest]

Man, i wish i could play with someone like this. It looks WAY too fun.

[@toobcat24]

Shrek car isn't real. Shrek car can't hurt you. Shrek car:

[@timfagan816]

@@toobcat24 shut up

[@timfagan816]

Shut up

[@Kv-2Heavy]

@@timfagan816 you're sad

[@nighpaw4651]

Automation generates engine sounds based on things like engine type and rpm and exports those sound files to beamng, if you go above what's generated there's no sound files for the game to pull from since the redline was set low by the game to save the engine from unaliving itself

[@steeljawX]

Here's an idea for you that I actually tried recently. I don't know if the game will let you get away with actually making a car like this. Try building a competitor for the Pigeon for title of wimpiest car in BeamNG. I was able to make a 2 seater coup with an I3 that was both barfing and the other end ejecting a whopping 5hp and 5 lb-ft.....Automation kept saying a critical problem was the engine was too underpowered for the vehicle. I had to compromise and bump it up to about 30 ish hp and 42 ish lb-ft. But the competition won't be time restricted like this, but what is the weakest engine you can make that will work in a vehicle that will still run? Second idea is kind of the opposite of the sleeper idea. So a sleeper is a car that looks normal and sounds, generally, normal but is actually tuned and modded to be a high performing machine. Make fakers. Cars that look fast and sound ungodly loud and powerful, but have relatively normal performance. The source of that idea is a bit of a riddle. What idles like a Cessna, screams like a banshee, and has 6 cylinders? I don't know either, but I apparently built it. Like it hurts. I'm nearly getting headaches from listening to it, it's so stink'n loud. I'm going to have to join your discord and share it with you because like I was trying to go for performance V6 turbo and it just screams at me. I'm tempted to rename it from the current Lynx Turbo to something that pays homage to the XF-84H Thunderscreech (aka the Mighty Ear Banger.)

[@JanTonovski]

Love the automation content Kosmo!

[@darealkosmo]

Thank you! :D

[@Mochi.Rin_Official]

I'd love to see another sleeper build vid, but only using tiny European cars from 20+ years ago (Peugeot 106, Renault 5, Volkswagen Golf, etc.). I'd love to see how big of an engine y'all can cram into a tiny fwd car :3

[@Davide0033]

here me out, peugeot 205, it's already a sleeper by itself, a crazy dangerous one

[@Maximus2761]

Hey, you guys should do a competitive white elephant. Give each other something simultaneously unappealing but genuinely good on the track.

[@jesselegere4591]

Love this series my man

[@darealkosmo]

Thank you! We're loving making these videos :)

[@worstgamer13]

would be cool to see you do a challenge where you use the same engine but in different cars or the same cars but with different engines

[@brockolee0815]

Shrek is coming for you! Unfortunately he had a slomo potion before... 😆The car itself doesn't look bad for 15 minutes though. A little bit more effort in design/tuning with a proper engine could turn out pretty good I would assume. Should be pretty stable because it has a low and wide body.

[@yoginovadiarly8969]

"Longi-toodle" lol💀

[@timarc9895]

the tiny carburetor on top of that huge V8 😂

[@deilusi]

I just love the temp of the valves and exhaust 600% of 1500'C is fun.

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

Biggest engine in the smallest chassis, followed by smallest engine in biggest chassis!

[@LightningTheLMS3FJinty2020]

This Is The Best Video. And I Love The Yellow Car. Also 22:06 Goofy Has Entered Into The Chat.

[@Tim_The_Dim]

I think a very low budget challenge would be good, using autormations built in costs

[@bakoory3000]

Those whistling S's snd C's are killing me 😂😂😂😂

[@davidwhite581]

Love these videos! Yall make me laugh 😂. I think doing a 2000+ HP challenge with maybe random challenges and/or an obstacle corse would be pretty entertaining. Like too much power, not enough space type deal 😅

[@NitroReaper86]

17:14 why does it look like a TVR?

[@dodge26]

another Weird engine Idea 1 HP but 100 Ft Lbs of Torque

[@gooo1762]

Thanks for the video!

[@mikedonlon1594]

Bmw and mopar guys were probably lost during the build part😂

[@walf8099]

One engine breaks automation's sounds The other engine breaks BeamNG itself Who wins?

[@mr.shenanigans597]

Do this again but this time make the smallest engine possible.

[@IanJeffries-j7r]

You should try to make the most powerful engine you can

[@swealer]

Bro, at around 1:40 you say "to much torque makes it undriveable" but then you give it more stroke.... Do you know how engines work? longer stroke (longer conrods) = more torque (and mostly lower revs), bigger bore & shorter stroke = higher revs/lower torque. But in case of a 6.0L V12 "low" torque is quite the understatement :D

[@darealkosmo]

lol the point was to make it bad xD

[@swealer]

@@darealkosmo i know, i watched it😉 but the physics dont change😉 just something to keep stored in the back of your head, maybe you need it some time😅

[@darealkosmo]

@@swealer thanks :D

[@swealer]

@darealkosmo you very welcome😀 if you got some minutes to spare, build 2 exact same engines but change only the bore/stroke, so the displacement, compression, cam profile etc stays the same and look at the results😉 but PRO TIPP: dont use long rods and too much timing because that will bend your con-rods and they make you a nice windows in your block to see inside😅 please dont ask me how i know🤣 it still heards

[@thedigitaldorito]

can you please make a video where you and butch do some sort of trailer towing challenge? i would love to see how you guys build for that

[@RatkoRocket]

22:47 the engine sounds are still there, there just are no sounds to play above the stock rpm limit

[@soundcrib]

you should try to make cars with so much power they either explode or do a flip

[@MelonDev04]

Bro, that power curve with the turbo 😭😭😭

[@darealkosmo]

almost have to see what it feels like now haha

[@lakeelmpine5351]

POV: You are building a classic muscle car in Gran Turismo 4

[@HollowKZ]

100 likes in less than an hour! So nice to see you growing.

[@darealkosmo]

🙏 thank you! :)

[@luxaeterna100]

Don´t forget my 1.0l/as small as possible engine but ramp it as high as you can idea. Nice idea here building each others engines.

[@cardchris21]

You guys should do the most hopped up soccer mom mini van build like the honda ru but also have the interior sleeper

[@CableWrestler]

Try driving the 2.2 transit custom. It's literally the torque curve in the thumbnail.

[@Hoihoi003]

Lowest tone engine vs highest engine tone

[@Zenefor]

make a 1:1 ratio engine, but the components are discord chosen.

[@chuukoart3869]

you see space alien, i see shrek, we are not the same

[@PedroFerrer-vq5sw]

Can we see tug of war vehicles. The battle of torque, low gears and clutch smoke

[@dakotairwin]

You should do a all around challenge set a hp limit then both build a car that in theory could do anything drag, track race, hill climb ect. Another idea would be a budget challenge both have X amount of money to build a car and engine then do some basic test a manufacturer would do stopping distance, drag, handling anything you can think of. Absolutely love the content and your attempt to keep learning you’re doing great!! 👍🏼 👍🏼

[@Unknown-Number]

Already done (50hp)

[@h3lli123]

11:34 ALMOST TWO THOUSAND DEGREES CELSIUS ON THE EXHAUST THATS A QUARTER TO HALF OF THE SUNS SURFACE TEMPERATURE

[@darealkosmo]

@@h3lli123 lmaooo send itt

[@wickush6410]

Changing transmission ratio is not unrealistic.

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

An engine like these actually exists. The 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille, 8.2L engine: 190hp, 380 lb-ft. Wtf were they thinking?!

[@darealkosmo]

I know we're talking about the engine specifically...but you forgot "FWD" 💀💀🤣

[@hitmanx200]

Fuel economy because the entire world was suffering from a massive energy shortage

[@dylanbass6819]

I would say you guys should build factory engines but with a twist like k24 but make it a V8 or take an Ls-x and make it a straight 4. Stuffs like that! Aspiration to be determined;)

[@Wolf_O]

This is what cars in the early 1900s were trying to

[@Palmtop_User]

I remember seeing an ad for an old car advertise 15hp as a lot of hp It probably wasnt wrong, it was just really funny

[@xymaryai8283]

yo, you should actually make dedicated CVT race cars... actually no, nevermind, i just remembered that the noise would probably make god dump all of humanity in a black hole though if you make it them idle speed engines, it wouldn't be too bad

[@sathfarther4331]

when he put the turbo on it turned into a bomb

[@t.gaming]

Would love to join in the challenges

[@IparIzar]

13:35 No no It's pronounced exactly as you think

[@caseyderanek]

Every laugh = Krusty the Clown

[@sgtwiggles292]

Wish you knew how to read the table on the right to know whats wrong with the engine..... shorter stroke increases RPM along, longer stroke decreases RPM

[@rash3382]

Bruh be buildin shrapnel bomb 💀💀

[@viperdio69420]

18:03 shrek

[@zestyrabbit]

What a silly engine. Time for me to make a 10 hp 500 rpm engine

[@kdesikdosi5900]

do cars with smallest engines possible

[@freezingfate9697]

Love it

[@Odin-Flora]

Saftey -15 quality is more lightweight same with the traction aids one

[@zak_facts2676]

good video music was abit distracting

[@dono2926]

3:59 American engines be like

[@TheJestercraft]

1976 Cadillac would like to hire Butch they where only able to do a 500 CI 8.2l with 190 HP @3600 360 lb-ft @2000 Rpm.

[@Calebtheboss-eq5os]

Old school Nascar is next right

[@marluna_x]

0.25% economy is unreal

[@thurmar111]

Do the same challenge but power has to stay over 0

[@tastincars]

It is a litteral pain to put a lip on Automation (is there a technic ?)

[@darealkosmo]

I am sure I will be experimenting with that soon enough!

[@Drefar]

upload this 1 i like it.

[@Wreckedftfoxy]

when ur engine knocks its most likely compression valve float is springs

[@rocksandcows3229]

That v12 sounds kind of like a gmc twinsix

[@darealkosmo]

welp...down a new rabbit hole I go xD

[@ragingghost1088]

Hilarious 🤣

[@mikejefferys]

Try and limit the engine size to a v6 and 3 litres no turbocharger. See who is better 😂

[@sausagelowpc666]

Make the worst, weakest and smallest engine you can build And try to race with it

[@VestedUTuber]

Kosmo, you made a steam engine. XD

[@darealkosmo]

huh....that's kinda amazing xD

[@connorsadventures4351]

Demo derby cars or the heaviest cars

[@deadisnend]

what about a challenge race where the ony rule is max 2000 RPM

[@waterfall4535]

I managed to make an engine so bad, it made -1.2 horspower, i made it worse (somehow) and it litteraly breaks the game each time i test it

[@Foxdog199]

Hey kosmo I’m just wondering how you managed to make your own server on beam multiplayer