Who Can Build The BEST Sleeper? (Automation | BeamNG Multiplayer)

Today @Butch13_Gaming and I are back in Automation and BeamNG to build and race SLEEPERS! But who built the best sleeper? Watch the video and let us know in the comments, as well as give us more ideas for challenges!
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[@echo9082]

You two should target a power to weight ratio when setting up these builds. I think a tighter criteria would help!

[@darealkosmo]

I agree! We've been discussing tightening up criteria and having more structured comparisons :) I think the next one we have planned will hit some of this criteria for sure!

[@Limitless154]

Top gear transit sleeper vibes

[@axelvandelft8982]

I agree maybe also same body only engine build and then test it

[@RmX.]

I wanna see a competition of a race cars Max 2 liters engine Min 1000kg car No quality

[@MrGatanasov]

@@darealkosmo Try building the most reliable I4 and make it a diesel.

[@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx]

Mismo casually running like a 7.8 quarter mile in a full friggen cargo van

[@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx]

(It autocorrect Kosmo to mismo :/)

[@sanoshawntalik5069]

@@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx You can edit your comment.

[@Thatonefuckinguy]

bro made a hacker/robber van. 💀 "GO GO GO, THE FBI'S ON TO US MEN!"

[@alexc9434]

Pro tip: I think what you’re doing wrong in the beginning is your engine keeps blowing up. So to fix that you just need to make sure your engine doesn’t blow up.

[@darealkosmo]

you know...I think you're onto something here...

[@TarisSinclair]

I'm sure Butch's 1800BHP engine variant would receive Clarkson's stamp of approval: "Speed And Power Solve Many Problems".

[@ghomerhust]

right in the mind of stuffing the jag xj220 engine in that transporter van. pretty epic!

[@NullCreativityMusic]

Put that engine in the sleeper van

[@stevepittman3770]

Next idea: tractor pull? Make really beefy torquey vehicles then hook your rear bumpers together and see who can pull the other.

[@ghostsgarage2964]

Pulls are typically bad and don’t show actual power. It’s who ever has more traction in the beginning typically so if one person has no traction the pull is bad and can’t be counted

[@Linkbond]

That van is very much a sleeper. You hear it roll up and your like it's a base V8 and then the race starts and it's just GONE and the other person reacts like Butch did.

[@JanTonovski]

Looks like you made the "Ferd" supervan 😂. That acceleration all the way to 300kph was just mind blowing. Maybe a challenge for next time would be a certain cost limit. That way one could build a crappy 10 liter engine and the other a perfect 3 liter.

[@justinpatterson5291]

4WD + Drag power = OP traction and take off control. You need to drop that thing in a Baja vehicle or something.

[@alexanderliebscher3472]

Having the turbocharger come on around 4000+ RPM is not good in the slightest. You choke out all the power the engine makes low down, making the turbo effect jarring and sudden, causing wheelspin (in BeamNG). Try a turbo that comes on sooner, your engine will rarely run in its perfect powerband, especially when shifting a lot.

[@miguelgameiro8063]

I play automation regularly and I still can’t make tiny turbos running straight but he should be upped all quality sliders to help

[@wobblysauce]

Same thing in real life... to much power early and you bend rods, so you need some rpm to assist, 4k is a good spot.

[@jessealan1873]

I just wanted to throw out there how much I enjoy watching the engine building on your channel. I’m a mechanic irl and everytime I see the engine try to destroy itself I just have to laugh 😂

[@MechaNexus]

The fact you went with the shady white candy van made this whole thing even more hilarious. XD

[@zeaaronkuehn4045]

I think he definitely succeeded at building a sleeper van I would just be afraid to go near it because kidnapping

[@Stork2204]

Automation Turbo engines prefer around 70-80% exhaust flow and the compressor can be more like 150%, it will drop a little power but will spool much sooner

[@ducewags]

@Stork2204 ProCharger's, blowers and super chargers have a question. What lag? Also no extra heat, it's a win win.

[@rickcupola6262]

@@ducewags Centrifugal superchargers... Make them run on 48V or 400V (if you're extra silly) like Garrett is developing recently and you'll be golden. There will still be more heat when forcing more air density in. More air mass = more fuel has to be burnt.

[@ducewags]

@@rickcupola6262 Atomized fuel is like AC to an engine, and the more you put in, the cooler the charged air is. You kinda missed that part in the air charge.

[@rickcupola6262]

@@ducewags I wasn't talking about the inlet air density increasing due to the latent heat of vaporization of fuel cooling the intake charge. I was talking about the overall heat output of the engine increasing due to the increased cylinder pressure. More chemical energy put in, more kinetic energy and heat energy put out. Apologies for the unclear wording.

[@ducewags]

@@rickcupola6262 Oh I don't know about the numbers you got. I run a Pro-Charger on my 7.3 oil burner, and a 14-71 on my drag car. Fun fact, you can grab my zoom tubes on my 570 after a 7 second run. 13 gallons of fuel is a ton of engine AC in any book.

[@Glocktopus42]

The goal was to build a sleeper, and of course Kosmo builds an actual sleeper van 😂😂😂 great video man!

[@kelevra558]

Brother that turbo ramp was PERFECT when you said you didn't like it. Thats pretty much exactly what you want. A visible ramp in, then flat as possible through the end of the graph. Regarding torque anyway. Horsepower, you want the same kind of ramp in, then you want to set your rev limiter the second power starts falling off.

[@solidmoon8266]

The deal with a sleeper car isnt based on sound. Its about suping up the car while keeping the exterior as unmodified as possible. Since you kept everything under the hood and no altering exterior, its an easy pass

[@danielllitpek2014]

An Inline 5 Turbo would've been great, Volvo had built a lot of sleepers in their time and their I5s are iconic

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Inline 5 is also easy to make sound as non-performant on idle.

[@TinaGloria2012]

Not all sleepers sound like normal cars 😂😂😂

[@eddiejackson1566]

Guy says "a motor that diesnt sound good all the time" then makes a V8

[@lrander]

0-100 km/h in 1,833 seconds - not many cars can do that! Yeah, I counted frames... 🙂

[@asaphuntthemunk5243]

So 1.833 seconds in a 0-100 is insane

[@KARR]

Well they both looked the sleeper part!

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

We need more automation multiplayer!

[@usshared1649]

Hello again

[@youtubeSuckssNow]

Usually if you sleep in it it's a sleeper. So if there's a bed in the back it's a sleeper.

[@asaphuntthemunk5243]

😂😂

[@probablysomeonesomewhere]

smaller turbine = faster spool, but more heat

[@robsorgdrager8477]

For the best sleeper builds in real life N20 is the king. Build a low comp engine with forged internals. Cam profile with good lift but not a bunch of separation or overlap. Cram like 200 hp worth of nitrous through it.

[@dni9283]

imagine your kidnappers kidnaps you with a sleeper van lmao

[@subjectc7505]

Definitely something you wouldn't expect to be fast until the driver floors it

[@sativa1320]

"I want something that doesnt sound like much at idle" Chooses a v8, notorius for having a crazy and great idle sound lmao

[@No-vq1iv]

That's not a sleeper, it's an AWD race car with a van's body. I think there's actually a classification for that in racing.

[@Remmes]

Would love a build where you use a random number gen for certain things, if it doesn't work out you can roll again until it does work (but can't re-roll for a better number once working)

[@darealkosmo]

omg haha, great idea.

[@SrFrancia0]

Just two dudes trynna have fun. I love it

[@jackmagnium6115]

the V12 you made in the last video is supposed to be a 90 degree V12 with old school distributor ignition and an LT1 1990 corvette style intake

[@lordsrednuas]

Just casually breaking 300kph with a van :D

[@flakey7832]

Turbos are not as hard as they seem. 4 graph is a must. Compressor size makes the bubble bigger and moves it up and to the right. Trim moves the bubble to the right and up (slightly). Boost moves the blue boost line up and to the right. Turbine size is just used to control how much flow (hp) you want your turbo to support (your engine to make), and to increase or decrease turbo lag/minimize surge and exhaust temperatures. Intercooler size does pretty much nothing at this stage, I think they're trying to fix the calculations.

[@flakey7832]

If your turbo is doing some crazy stuff just increase turbine size/compressor size or decrease boost. Then start again from a point where it is stable

[@thecommenternobodycaresabout]

I like building F1 style cars. So far, AWD is by far the best in, pretty much, every aspect. Cornering is a 7/10, on keyboard, but acceleration and handling, especially during acceleration and turning is 11/10. I cannot understand why there are no AWD F1 cars in real life. I have a video in BeamNG showcasing that.

[@gojimeteor7986]

Very cool super van! Definitely not a sleeper with that sound lol Idk if it’s an option in automation but irl a thing you could do to fix the sound would be to tune the ECU to run less fuel at lower rpm’s and higher fuel ratios at higher rpm’s. Once again don’t know if that’s in automation tho 😅

[@hyper14102]

Here's an idea for a challenge: Weight to Power ratio. This makes things interesting since there's so many things you could do

[@Ninotipinoti]

'yes officer its stock' :P

[@CarsenLee-ud8fv]

Def a sleeper, Also love the videos keep up the great work!

[@darealkosmo]

thanks! :D

[@romainsoupedrouet3374]

Insane video ! I love this concept!! I have a question, what's de plateforme on wich you are building chose engines, I would mike to try it !

[@mikejefferys]

That’s just asking for trouble 😂 5:16

[@General_Madness]

If it revved a bit higher and didn't have a turbo, I would think you would be trying to make a nascar, as that's what it reminds me of for some reason. Edit: I change my mind it sounds exactly like ken block's gymkana hoonicorn, and it has similar specs actually! (KB: AWD, 1400hp, V8 twin turbo; Kosmonout: AWD, 1600hp, v8 twin turbo, and also both cars sound very murican.)

[@randomone649]

Make a city car, a small and compact car with a small compact engine for driving around the city

[@louismaas9349]

smaller turbos spool up quicker which will give you that low end torque but you have to kind of balance that with how much power you want to make

[@ZebbePlayz]

To be honest i think that butch built a more realistic sleeper, but yours is cool too

[@wulfleyn6498]

Van reminds me of the best racecar i ever made in auto, was a van with awd and a 10l v16. Kinda wanna experiment with hiding aero and other parts to make an ultimate sleeper van.

[@MassiveSquirrel42]

I think you should make cars under 200hp

[@VampyrMygg]

Just a quick thing on the bypass valves, they're not manually operated, basically meant to be so that with normal driving you use the full exhaust, but once you go full throttle it bypasses the exhaust, at least that's how the developers of Automation have explained it, how it works in BeamNG is another thing.

[@darealkosmo]

ohhhh gotcha!! Thanks for explaining. I thought it was like one of those ghetto eBay exhaust valves that you operate with a key fob xD

[@Tim_The_Dim]

You should do a build were you set a (low) price limit on the cars, automation should tell you the price in the summary section

[@Darkslide2AR-FE]

so basically you built a drag sleeper and he made a drift sleeper

[@ajmayse7716]

It's a great sleeper lol I have 02 Chevy Silverado 6cyl with 600 HP

[@atrumluminarium]

The van was an interesting choice 😂

[@austinkingan9073]

a sleeper is something that looks stock outside of the car but inside the engine compartment is totally different

[@zloboslav_]

Everybody knows the best sleeper in BeamNG is "Mattress Sport" LMAO XD

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

I clicked on this expecting a van that you can sleep in, for like camping or being a hippie. This is much better

[@Oakleythomasson]

bro i always saw your trailmaker videos but i never knew you made BeamNG videos

[@CAPTAINVR8]

8:40 sounds like a mustang or a dodge charger hellcat or a redeye engine ngl Btw kosmo if you used a Supra mk4 ish shape those make awesome sleepers

[@pwm_vrt6]

supras are not sleepers at all, they're literally sport cars

[@miguelgameiro8063]

You should be gone with 4 valves since it allows VVL and your idle would be not been so choppy

[@arsiiskay_official]

Pls try 13.1 comp ratio, high cams, advance ignition timing, 14,000rpm Square engine ( same sized bore and stroke ) in an N/a engine

[@damoncatlin734]

I play a hell fo a lot of automation and i am a mechanic irl and teh best way to make power is watching the flow graphs its on the right like the stress graph and running nitro on an n/a motor you can make dumb power ive gotten 1500+ out of an n/a 4.5 v6 with nitro and the power band is much smoother

[@SamuraiGamingMikejr]

dude made a van that looks like its giving out candie

[@JoMomma-pj3io]

Imagine that, a dude in a green family car going 150 km/h just steals your wheel

[@dion256.]

nice ETK 800 series at the start of the vid.

[@Hi12190]

Bubbles got my crack up.

[@docternoblex]

The van reminds me of the Dodge vans with the big block hemis, absolutely bonkers vehicles

[@lunarz7117]

Make a Track Monster for nest race! Mid Engine Boxer!

[@Yes.-_-]

In my eyes a sleeper is just what’s seen from the outside, i think it’s less about how it sounds, fast looking cars are expected to be fast, what you don’t expect is a van going 200mp/h in 5 seconds 😂 I’d say it’s considered a sleeper build.

[@MrLarsgren]

maybe a pulling challenge. all about planting the power to the ground and not roast the tires

[@lordsrednuas]

I mean, its not the most sleepery sleeper. But I also dont know what you could do to it where breaking 300kph in a van wouldn't be surprising. Anything short of a rocket engine sticking out the back and it probably counts as a sleeper

[@hyper14102]

5:07 Turbo's typically give boost at higher rpm's. If you want low-end boost you should take a supercharger. Also, is it possible to twincharge an engine in automation?

[@RickolasBigDickolas]

No superchargers in the current builds of automation but they are currently under way and should arrive within the next 10 years.

[@hyper14102]

@@RickolasBigDickolasWhy aren't superchargers there yet? I mean yes they are more complex than spooly boiz but still

[@Markgamer480]

i've seen some cars have dual exhaust but one exit, maybe try that or make them go behind the bumper like hidden

[@cozycab]

This is a great video idea

[@zerrierslizer1]

my guy, you built a NASCAR VAN!!

[@3DVikig]

Use nitro methanol next time for massive hp gains

[@sijonda]

If you wanted to go sleeper, do a 4 or 3 cylinder. Everything else has torque.

[@Thatdoglover9411]

You want the intercooler to be around the same strength as the engines hp If you have a turbo charged engine that has 1000 hp then you want the intercooler to be at 1000 hp to maximize engine power.

[@DJgamer-sq5fq]

So one thing about turbos is that they are for the high end if you build boost before it’s no problem but in the low end you normally run smaller turbos or a supercharger you can also run a compound which uses a small and big turbo use the small one to build boost for the bigger turbo but if you can’t you would wanna run smaller turbos for lower end boost

[@wolfaja755]

I decided to try to build the Hughes horsepower engine I could, as one does. I settled on a small quad turbo v12 that makes 3600 horsepower. I had it over 4000 but the pistons were dying so I had to lower the torque which also lowered the power. The turbos spool up at about 9k rpm leaving me with about 2k of power and the rest is all like 800hp and ftlbs of torque.

[@plagueless9829]

Bro said he didn’t want it to sound good and chose a v8 😂

[@severinghams]

for more power at low rpm youd want a belt driven supercharger but theres no option for that.

[@themashedavenger5461]

"i want something that doesnt sound good all the time".... "how about a 6-7 litre v8" love your vids but have you guys seen/heard an actual car in real life?

[@XtremeDiscomfort]

I believe you will get better overall power and reliability with an OHV (Overhead Valve) engine. The highest hp V8s in the world are all overhead valve.

[@XY-ep8uz]

Pains me to see you click on + and - You can hover the mouse over the slider and use the mouse wheel to smoothly and precisely move it up and down like a turn dial.

[@user-gh5vp6vh7j]

The delayed jump in power is a typical turbo rather than super charged

[@Sandell21]

I'm assuming here, that you guys saw that episode of top gear when they took on the Australians and made a very fast van? 😊

[@altonsmith7869]

Build the loudest and fastest engine you can with a lot of backfire

[@DeWorDeR]

Got any clue what kind of obstacles i should make if u would like to compete with friend who can build better car? Ive done some grading, water and wind obsbtacles, but not much. Thought il make crude looking map where u can test automaticn vehicles etc...

[@darealkosmo]

I am currently on vacation but if you join the Discord (link in descrip) and shoot me a DM so I don't forget, we can chat about it!

[@DeWorDeR]

@@darealkosmo sure man il try to find my way in there. :)

[@johnathanedwards9054]

I'm currently stuffing a 460ci (stroked to 532ci) Ford big block into a pos ranger. A huge engine in a small vehicle is a great way to make a sleeper 😅😂😅

[@Logan-ts4tf]

How to sell a game without selling a game. Learning as we go! Thanks Kosmo!

[@Logan-ts4tf]

Just learned today you can put turbos after the muffler. Lil info for the fans. Look it up, super interesting

[@markbookout1497]

Can someone please tell me how to play this game? I do not currently play video games and haven’t played games since 2014 but lucked upon this video and love the engine building and stuff.

[@Debi2137]

Now try to build rally car

[@jadenkarnatz5292]

May I recommend a change for this, reverse sleeper cars, natural aspiration only, no more than 6 cylinders, super car/sports car body

[@Foggy404]

How is that a reverse sleeper?

[@jadenkarnatz5292]

@@Foggy404 looks awesome, is dissipating

[@TheTunerGuy]

wish i could stream on automation. does anyone know what minimum specs i would need to get into streaming? also when it comes to power, try running nitromethane. And for spooling the turbo faster just make the turbo compressor wheel smaller.

[@astrokiller1993]

need to add timing down low to spool faster

[@SethBuilds]

You're van is awfully reminiscent of a Frankenbenz. Sprinter type van with a twin turbo gasser 6.0 V8 sounds like a track ready AMG or bigger 4Matic of sorts to be honest. Dual Overhead Cams of course too.

[@aidanschmidt]

I would have out some crazy vvl and vvt on it. that would give it a good low rpm sound and a crazy high rpm

[@aidanschmidt]

also flatplane crank

[@worldxing2263]

What software are you using to build to cars?

[@valentinojunge7072]

How can u build an engine like that? I mean what Program is that or is it in beamng?

[@tomaszskowronski1406]

Of course its a sleeper. you can sleep in the back after all

[@insomniacbritgaming1632]

so butch builds a sleeper. Kosmo builds the Ford Supervan...