Kramnik on realising 17-year-old Carlsen would be "the next Federer"

Vladimir Kramnik and Judit Polgar talk about what makes World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen so special while commentating on Caruana-Carlsen in Round 7 of Norway Chess. Replay that game: chess24.com/en/watch/live-tou...
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#MagnusCarlsen #VladimirKramnik #JuditPolgar

[@stephencallahan7877]

Judit set him up nicely, and then let him speak. Beautiful

[@galador8089]

steamroller82 and there we have the unsolicited misogyny

[@jonathanross4851]

@@galador8089 Lol, you fell for the bait.

[@Sprtschk]

@@jonathanross4851 Lol, you're so clever.

[@dayoldeggplant]

@@galador8089 If you couldn't sense the sarcasm in that comment, you completely fell for the bair buddy.

[@threebees7785]

it's not completely obvious if it is actually sarcasm

[@YoussefRahoui]

This commentators duo is awesome

[@tagheuer001]

Agreed. I hope Chess24 sees this!

[@gretzkey66]

I agree 100%. Well the thing is that this is Kramnik and Polgar here, chess legends so it's amazing hearing them talk about Magnus. For others, like on chess24, they cannot hope to overcome Magnus ever, so they end up just saying "Wow hes so good" and then get stuck on that.

[@alexanderhoffmann2547]

This was one of the best insights into the talent of Magnus Carlsen that I ever heard. Brilliant!

[@kasparov937]

Pretty cool, I wish he compared him to Garry's achievements, they never do this...

[@kajaskov6270]

@@kasparov937 Don't need to!

[@oldmanc2]

My best chess learning was when I managed to get in the post-game Press Conference Anand-Kramnik Bonn 2008 Just listening to how Kramnik thought, analysed and planned, I felt like I gained 100 ELO in 15 minutes!

[@eltamin1966]

Yes, very precisely explained.

[@arnavrawat9864]

Can only come from a top tier dude

[@brutallyironical119]

I just frickin' love Kramniks commentary.

[@imank8629]

Agreed. Kramnik is top 5 ever.

[@W4rfire]

Its so funny because what Kramnik tells at 6:30 is exactly the thing which happened afterwards in the game of Magnus which they were covering. Fabiano was just better all the time, it was extremly difficult to play for Magnus, he was down in time and he played one perfect move after the next in seconds and managed to have a very safe draw, even with a slight edge in his favor. Thats so incredible, his endgame is so strong

[@patriark]

Judit Polgar is an amazing woman. Such a strong and clear mind. The way she manouvers the conversation and sets up Kramnik is really interesting.

[@tbhideciaintshowingup]

Yea. Former world top 10. Defeated like every modern world champion at some point.

[@farjadbabaee547]

This could be called "why we love" Kramnik.

[@archigenius360]

Aged like butter

[@karanmehta9967]

Both Nakamura and Kramnik have said it and I am sure many players also think this, but Magnus has a good feel and intuition for "the best move" where it's more of an instinct than actual calculations for Magnus. He makes these moves in seconds lol This is why he is the Mozart of chess because even Mozart was coming up with things that were beyond his own comprehension! This is what truly happens when you study this game to such a great extend, that you don't even know what you are creating, but you know it's beautiful!

[@mathisj6582]

This has been such a blast, with Judit and Vlad. What a brilliant match. Tnx Chess24.

[@dik2bik]

When the chess gods are praising you

[@Chess24]

We've added a transcript here! chess24.com/en/read/news/kramnik-on-realising-carlsen-was-the-next-federer

[@gerhardmehler4202]

As far as I can see, Kramnik ist talking about Magnus Carlsen vs Vladimir Kramnik at arond 8:00 minutes into the video: Amber Tournament (Rapid) (2008) (rapid), Nice FRA, rd 9, Mar-25 Russian Game: Paulsen Attack (C42) · 1/2-1/2 This is truly an amazing defence by Carlsen.

[@dayoldeggplant]

Thank you for citing the game!!

[@bogdar2019]

The chess commentary against any other sport's commentary is just amazing. Amazing. An additional reason, besides Agadmator, why I re-fell in love with chess

[@Rimpelmans]

I was visiting Wijk aan Zee with a friend back in 2004 and somebody from his chessclub was playing Henrik Carlsen in the Amateur part of the tournament. Magnus was playing in group C and that day he won against Sipke Ernst in a Caro Kann. It was such an amazing game, it created a buzz in the crowd which apparently reached Henrik as well. Henrik then offered a draw to my friend's friend in a slightly better position so he could be with Magnus. The game ended up winning the briliancy price that day. It is still my favorite game by Magnus.

[@kyrpichko]

Can you give a link to that game. pls

[@lolololololololol11]

@@kyrpichko www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1272702

[@Rimpelmans]

@@lolololololololol11 Yes that's the game. Magnus afterwards showed his game to the audience and if I remember correctly he said Sipke shouldn't have accepted the knight sacrifice, although he thought even without accepting the game was already probably lost for black. I think the critical mistake was 17: ... c5 without bringing the queen back first. It caused the black queen to be cut off for the defense against the kingside attack. At the time this game was played I believe the position after the knight sacrifice was reached only once before, but back then the white player did not find the right continuation like Magnus did and that game ended in a draw.

[@Rimpelmans]

Magnus also said he knew Sipke had messed up the move order, so he knew 17: ... c5 was wrong, but he didn't know the refutation, so he had to find out over the board what was wrong with it. I think it is amazing he was able to find such a stunning attack with a knight sacrifice over the board. Especially at that age, he was still a kid back then.

[@rainerwahnsinn9585]

@@Rimpelmans the real fault was 20...Ng8

[@pelufloyd]

I love Vlad commentaries and thinking since I saw "My path to the top". I emphatically recommend that video series about his life and how He managed to beat Kasparov an became world champion.

[@Dr_stogie]

Can you share a link?

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

@@Dr_stogie just search it, you lazy ass

[@W4rfire]

thanks for uploading this seperately, very interesting discussion!

[@kingsleychinedum7925]

Judit and Kramnik are just in point.

[@zorglub667]

this is very confusing. i am having a really hard time trying to decide whether i like this so much because these are two absolutely brilliant players with so much insight, or whether i like this so much because of the sheer class, modesty and nobility of their conversation. i cant work like this. aka this duo is just wonderful. more please :-)

[@contactpinacolada]

lovely commentary and such great tournament with so many decisive interesting games

[@jonchess8844]

Great conversation between two brilliant players👍👍👍

[@joaquinplacides2]

they're both so great at commentating id listen to this podcast

[@harsh4809]

Best commentators!! They really need to make it more.

[@LeonardisRock]

One of the most interesting chess videos I’ve seen in a while!

[@MagnusAnand]

What a gentleman Kramnik is

[@alexanderishere1857]

Kramnik is extremely wise on chess

[@daniellowinger3709]

If only the people who try to flag Kramnik in Banter Blitz so they can brag about how they beat a legend, would have an iota of the grace and class that is demonstrated here, the world would truly be a much better place. It's very sad that chess is infiltrated by people of such low character. But on the flip side, it is comforting that at the top there is beauty, and mutual appreciation, and respect. Hopefully that filters down to some extent.

[@Benzcrimsonitacilunarnebula]

?i think chess is still good they have many good and good players also many play chess as hobbyy i think

[@alanwhite3154]

How wise is Kramnik!

[@abhishekbhartia5297]

Superb insight about Magnus. Great work Judith and kramnik

[@rherlitz]

Great commentary

[@anone-mouse1672]

Great insight!

[@noahmosley]

I love these two together!

[@d3bhdennis]

wow, great commentary by one of the best, about the best

[@dhushy63]

This was a nice video Kramnik and Judith are my favorite humans ever I am not saying this because of this video Judith also supported Anish during the candidates(she was against the draw memes and etc..) and Kramnik is a legend

[@gillyobaggin]

Oh shit, Judit and kramnik together.

[@jonathanryals9934]

If Magnus used computer to cheat he would play worse.

[@tensor131]

nice ..

[@x78340]

lol

[@agharmasri1065]

Interesting analysis!

[@bornaculig6952]

It's diminishing the amazing work he put into his game. But I do love these two.

[@NGEternal]

Fantastic video, thanks for the clip.

[@Xdam985]

Wow this deserves more views!!!!!

[@zhaozheng7704]

Well said of Carlsen

[@zambot264]

I like judit commentary

[@Arcue1d]

WOW, this is wonderful

[@miguelpanta]

kramnik is such a cool and insightful guy!

[@joshbowling5032]

fabi nooo he should have pushed the a pawn not the h pawn

[@Mrius86]

The King's indian defense played in Larsen versus Polgar from 1994 is pretty epic.

[@deeptitiwari288]

8:08 it is, yes, I wasted my time to save yours...

[@v44n7]

you are the hero we don't deserve

[@sbdxaric]

You are, but I must admit I kind of enjoyed the beginning

[@margad-erdeneamgalanbaatar5028]

I enjoyed the whole thing.

[@MMAoracle]

I love Kramnik’s russian accent

[@ThvonS]

18.05 min Never thought of Kramnik as a poet, but in a weird way this is pretty close . Judit is ofc also contributing, but is she saying "it`s nice to have confessional booze" 21.32 ?

[@todesque]

When Kramnik speaks, everybody listens. Love that man!

[@s4m3r]

this comment aged poorly

[@todesque]

@@s4m3r Well he threw away a lot of goodwill, for sure. Such a pity.

[@jorgenmac]

Big props to Kramnik for giving it up. Rare to hear from Russian/Soviet GMs

[@gretzkey66]

This is amazing.

[@aanibar7400]

Klasse!

[@gmchessplay9043]

Magnus makes the correct move, and takes whatever concessions his opponent gives him.

[@executivelifehacks6747]

Not the subject, but Magnus and Federer have similar sounding voices/accents to me. Different languages but similar English.

[@arnavrawat9864]

17:27

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

GOAT

[@thomascastillo7798]

what is the federer?

[@cemordesign]

Its a reference to a tenis player who dominated the sport for 10 years

[@MKD1101]

Watching this after Federer's record was equalled by Nadal! What can it mean?

[@Thiebelamberts]

Nothing

[@raffaeledivora9517]

Sometimes it's not the numbers, but how you play. Federer has some magic in his touch, in his mind, that allows him to create beautiful, stunning, unexpected shots. Every one is worth the price of the ticket alone. Another example: if you know F1, Villeneuve vs. Arnoux 1979 is a duel that is more remembered than the whole of most F1 championships since 2013 (worth remembering: 2016, 17, 18 and 2021). Villeneuve himself won 6 races and died Young before having a real chance to demonstrate his talents and "farm statistics", but he is universally regarded as a legend and well above a lot of multiple world champions...

[@serei3g345]

Why is alireza flag not Iran

[@jamesc1010]

The Iranian national team banned their players from playing against Israelis so Firouzja just quit the team and started playing under FIDE flag.

[@detectivemarkseven]

@@chessandmathguy 🤣

[@ikarusxv]

"They are entitled to their stupid opinions " - Magnus on Kasparov and Kramnik comments

[@kasparov937]

Lol..I think that was toward Kramnik...😀

[@ikarusxv]

@@kasparov937 it was during the world championship against Caruana 😆

[@motsy15]

Very astute insight into Carlson’s talent. One thing was omitted though. Carlson is the first world champion to grow up from the crib with rybka in his backpack. That explains why he plays like an engine ( mostly ) more so than others

[@Gush27]

This is such a tired narrative. If that were true then others would be able to do the same as Carlsen, yet none have

[@ramzirobart1032]

Alireza may well be rafael nadal then in terms of a young challenger

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

If he wins candidates 2 years from now it would be a good comparison. But not yet.

[@Samlaren]

When Carlsen was the same age as Alireza is now, Magnus was 5'th in the world. Firouzja is 18 Magnus was 38 ELO below no 1, Anand. Firouzja is 125 ELO behind Magnus. They are really not in the same class at all.

[@paulsummerfield6357]

Magnus is the modern day equivalent of Bobby Fischer

[@kasparov937]

Totally different Fischer just left, didnt even play a single game as champion, Magnus has stuck around and continues to defend his title 3 times already. Fischer was a great challenger, but as Champion he was absent.

[@marktimmermans1]

Only in stature. Games and styles aren't alike, and don't get me started about the differences in personality, lol

[@Gold139]

carlsen is the strongest chess player the human race has ever produced, no other "legend" can be comparable to him so nope, not a Fischer.

[@adrianvelez2466]

But one does not simply beat another grandmasters, 6-0, Fischer was alone against an entire empire. He did it arguably by himself

[@Gold139]

@@adrianvelez2466 back then there weren't as many good GMs, and most importantly back then there wasn't any engine. This is the post engine era of chess, when opening preparation is more important than ever. Old school GMs won't even get past low 2700s nowadays, don't even talk about Carlsen.

[@bartekmedes8281]

Unbelievable praise from a great World Champion, wow. Thing with Kasparov was he was great, but he also had some of the worst blunders in chess history, can you name one major blunder by Carlsen?

[@aradhyagarg1863]

There are many, missing Mate in 3 vs Anish in Wijk Aan Zee, missing ....Nd5! against Anand in World Chess Championship 2014, blundering a piece against Anish and Gawain Jones in Wijk Aan Zee 2011 and 2018, overpressing and losing many games as was typical of him in the past, blundering in a well-known draw against Aronian in Tal Memorial 2006, bluderimg Bh6! against Kramnik in Norway Chess 2017 and a lot of bad mistakes pretty much throughout 2017.

[@zhaozheng7704]

Any since 2018?

[@zifircin1797]

@@zhaozheng7704 I don't recall any major mistakes in classical since 2018 yea. but he does make blunders, just a lot less often than others

[@kasparov937]

Blunders? How about Kasparov 109 losses, Magnus 271 losses in classical. Kasparov also had some of the most amazing games in history, show me one Magnus game anywhere near Kasparov vs Topalov 1999 Wijk Ann Zee.....😀

[@aradhyagarg1863]

@@zhaozheng7704 You can count one against Aronian in London Classic 2019(although it went unpunished), many near misses by elite opposition in Wijk Aan Zee 2020. He also one a very unconvincing game against Georgidias after losing to Mamedyarov. In general, as Dubov said Magnus often goes unpunished because people do not really believe that they can beat him.

[@rob4419]

now you know why he was a 6 timer

[@petar1094]

Alireza is next Djokovic

[@darkook8472]

He is far from it, bot i think he will be up There some day, but will not be at the very top

[@mareeskumar5318]

Started no 1 but not the world champion, going no 1 but not the world champion

[@pekillas2593]

The next Djokovic would be more appropriate title

[@cptmaj]

carlsen aint on steroids

[@lammie001]

Dont make me laugh

[@JBHACKSAW]

Boomers are so judgemental sometimes. What to do? Great analysis. Kramnik is a thought addict.

[@clairexx94]

Woow woow 😍💋 💝💖❤️

[@naldebol]

The existence of VASTLY STRONGER chess engines is the BIGGEST and most DECISIVE reason why younger players, and players in general , are getting stronger at colossal speed , if we compare to anything in the past. Who is the best teacher? The stronger player is. Who is the strongest player? The modern chess engines of today, which by the time Magnus came to the scene, chess engines were already very very powerful and beat any GM. What we have today are GODS in the form of artificial intelligence at playing chess. A chess engine chan show you more than many of us stop to think about

[@Gush27]

So Magnus at 16 defending at 10 second increment at an insanely accurate level is due to engines? That’s ridiculous. Clearly genius chess intuition is the reason.

[@naldebol]

@@Gush27 Even when Magnus was 16 and younger, engines were available AND they were always excellent for training and practice, and for studying positions and patterns/tactics. NOTE that NO ONE SAID that ONLY ENGINES are the reason. You are putting words in my mouth. You are arguing vs something that no one claimed. Yes, talent is always a needed element to get to the top But to be the best you must learn from the best and train with the best and challenge yourself vs the best. Engines help in that sense. Even today Alpha Zero has been known to be used by players to learn and get stronger.

[@alessandrodellacorte1737]

This is probably from the analysis Kramnik refers to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH7XgZyei72KaJo

[@TheBilalblanco]

and then there is a certain MR Hikaru Nakamura, self-proclaimed god of chess, who thinks Carlsen is not among the top line gods of chess

[@fairalways]

He put up a recent video which places Magnus just behind Garry and Bobby and Anand all-time.

[@TheBilalblanco]

@@fairalways and Judit Polgar, and this is disrespectful for Federer of chess

[@user-xr3wp5wz9j]

I would get it if he said Djokovic

[@villyexplorer9482]

Neither Federer nor Djokovic has been number 1 as long as Carlsen.

[@vigdora100]

Kramnik's story dates back to when Magnus was 16, so Federer was very appreciated back than

[@Boekemannetje]

I think he means Djokovic as he is more allround; hard, clay, grass court / classical, rapid, blitz

[@mastershake886]

Magnus is a lot like Djokovic in the sense that he basically has no weaknesses, but his personality is like Federer, they both have an arrogant charisma to them

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

@@mastershake886 djokovic is much more arrogant than federer lol. Coming from a djoker fan from the balkans.

[@ivanstanisavljevic8245]

If Magnus is Federer Firouzja is Djokovic and in few years he is going to become the GOAT

[@croeuspvp9604]

Djokovic is not the goat, he just got smoked by nadal in finals, you can call djokovic the goat if he gets more slams than federer and nadal

[@ivanstanisavljevic8245]

@@croeuspvp9604 Djokovic is younger and has all these records. Novak smoked Nadal in Australia last year, so what? Djokovic will have most weeks at no 1 in March, most years finished as no 1. (tied with Sampras). he has most master titles, he won 4 slams in a row, has more big titles than Federer and Nadal and he will have the most grand slam titles one day, only a blind person can't see that. Plus he has a positive h2h record against both Nadal and Federer. The only player in history with 80+ winning percentage on all 3 surfaces.

[@nikos29911]

firouzja at the age of 16 beat magnus "machine" carlsen in a blitz match of 20 games . So someone can say ali has as much or more talent than magnus .

[@depriveable]

@@nikos29911 why you count blitz only? You should count rapid and classical then we can say better or talented than..

[@AshutoshMohalkar]

@@nikos29911 that was online game. Over the board result could be much different!!!

[@robery4008]

The lady who asks the question at 30 seconds should be the questions they ask the players during the end of the tournament. Instead we get questions like "how has the weather affected you?" and "what did you eat before coming here?" bozos the lot of them

[@yusouph2002]

Too bad you don't even know who this lady is...

[@Gush27]

That lady is the greatest female chess player of all time an former top 10 player (including men)

[@MrJaianeblasius]

2:32 I like that😍💋 💝💖❤️