Kratos talks about Calliope, his Daughter [ALL Dialogue] | GoW Ragnarok Valhalla DLC [4K 60ᶠᵖˢ ✔]

[@BenGun]

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[@Leviathan1000]

Kratos' greatest battle wasn't killing zeus or fighting odin or even saying goodbye to atreus. It was pushing his daughter away to save the world and her most of all.

[@BenGun]

Hell yeah... saddest QTE ever 🥲

[@javiervasquez625]

Wonder if he would be willing to do the same thing to save Atreus were he in Caliope's place?

[@abdulazimnaushad]

And unfortunately he only got more suffering in return.

[@alefeotto6360]

​​@@javiervasquez625i think so, cause she was in elysium, the paradise for the greek souls, if he had not done that, her soul would have been destroyed, he did it to save her soul and give her peace

[@efaristi9737]

@@alefeotto6360 It was destroyed anyway when he killed Hades and Greece.

[@diarrhea6344]

They finally adressed the hardest QTE in the history of God Of War.

[@blackdemonknight]

Between this and Helios they addressed a lot of the Chains of Olympus stuff in this DLC

[@Chinese_Name]

Button mash counts as QTE??

[@diarrhea6344]

@@Chinese_Name Yes.

[@Chinese_Name]

@@diarrhea6344 really.... It's just mashing and button how can it be QUICK time event my head hurts

[@diarrhea6344]

@@Chinese_Name It is classified as such. I agree it is not "quick" but it still uses the same mechanic as a quick time event; that being a cutscene where the player must press a specific button to complete an objective.

[@zalla00]

Mimir is the truest of brothers. I hope if we do get another game in the future that he comes along with us, in some way or form.

[@BlueMoon56832]

Yeah...he deserves to be a part of this saga...as the one person kratos can have by his side from now on

[@Shapelybox]

I think it would make sense to keep him. With Mimirs Brains and Kratos's brawn it's a perfect duo mechanic

[@Tokinaga_Ryu]

Well i hope the next game we go to mimir birth place as how mimir tell us in this dlc about how he being transfer to his birthplace while he being replace with helios...

[@stillgamelover1685]

If that happens and don't take it the wrong way.... I think mimir getting crushed in front of kratos would be good for the plot causing kratos to regress a bit only to overcome it

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Why wouldn't he

[@Mr.Derogatory316]

Imagine if Calliope met her half brother Atreus someday

[@rosegaminqueenchlharmonyde3345]

That would be Cool

[@DembiBrox]

She would adore him

[@darthmemewalker2807]

It would be one of the only times I cry

[@ashurad_fox5991]

It's a possibility... He could venture into Olympus and maybe find Aphrodite (since she's likely still alive) and maybe hear Kratos' past... then venture to hades and find her (could a great dlc)

[@javiervasquez625]

If her soul hasn't been lost to time after the destruction of Olympus that would be heartwarmingly wholesome.

[@charlesnevalga6890]

Ive seen people saying that they dont like seeing kratos this broken and soft. But you gotta remember, the guy had many things taken away from him, some by his own hands. All those years of suffering, its about time that this man can finally rest and let all those cooped up feelings drain out. The man deserves that therapy session more than anyone

[@The-Deadite]

If people think Nord age Kratos is soft then they are fucking idiots.

[@17ironknight]

Honestly, folks need to realize that the most angry people are usually the most broken inside.

[@Xehanort10]

The only people who complain about Kratos's character development and him showing emotions apparently want him to have no personality or character beyond "angry god killer." Most fans of series want their favourite characters to grow and develop but there's a weird bunch who want them to be static, never change and be the way they first found them forever.

[@haylongwang3002]

Bruh he tried to kill himself multiple times, idk what they mean with him being “broken” now…

[@AshlessChaps]

​@@haylongwang3002literally the first game opens with him stepping off a cliff

[@eduardomagana3858]

Man. That had to have been one of the hardest decisions, if not THE hardest, that Kratos had to have made. Giving up your daughter. Losing her a second time. Only to save a world that sure as hell didn't deserve it. If Kratos could go back, no tricks this time, he most definitely would.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Game made you press O and X to push her away

[@javiervasquez625]

Doing that would undoe Kratos destroying Olympus in turn preventing him from visiting the Norse realms and _birthing_ Atreus. Sadly Caliope's suffering must happen for Zeus and Odin's tyranny to end.

[@eduardomagana3858]

@@javiervasquez625 well, it’s like he said. We can only hope she found peace.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@eduardomagana3858 I myself am hoping Kratos will return to Greece in future sequels to reunite with his past leading to him meeting Calliope's ghost. Here's to hoping we won't be waiting long for such a wholesome scene to finally happen.

[@Quintepalix]

No, he made the best choice. If Kratos DIDN'T push his daughter away EVERYONE including him and his daughter would die. Kratos chose for his daughter to live in the afterlife by pushing her away instead of everything including the afterlife getting annihilated by Atlas. In other words Kratos decision would never change but it's not a decision he's fond of

[@mali_billz]

Abandon your daughter quick-time-event is to this day the wildest thing in all of gaming😂🙌🏾😭😭😭

[@johnernest5843]

If you think about it, those 'Press the O' button sequences in the original games where the times where Kratos exerted a lot of effort in--fighting AND fucking So to think that the mere act of repeatedly pushing his daughter away was a QTE meant that it took so much for him to be able to leave his daughter behind and continue his quest

[@Adnair]

​@@johnernest5843True shit brotha!

[@temp-x8518]

i forgot where i found this info from but the devs made it to where u are forced to let her go even if u arent spamming the O button or something like that its been awhile

[@jordansanchez131]

I think what is shocking to an extent is how much more of an impact that scene in the previous game now has with this retelling. Like yeah many of us were too young to understand the gravity of that situation but hearing the sadness in his voice delivered by the wickedly talented Christopher Judge allows you to put yourself there for a moment and really feel for Kratos. Damn yeah, the greek gods were horrible horrible beings who needed to end.

[@efaristi9737]

They were not all horrible. We barely even met 1/3 of them. Sure, Ares was horrible, Athena and Zeus were manipulative but things weren't that bad until the evils were unleashed.

[@nexrex3042]

@@efaristi9737Zeus being a serial rapist decade before the first chronological game proves you wrong

[@efaristi9737]

@@nexrex3042 Are you referring to the myths or to Kratos mother ?

[@nexrex3042]

@@efaristi9737 your question alone says it all

[@efaristi9737]

@@nexrex3042 Not really, i don't remember any mentions that Kratos mother was raped. And if by today standards, Zeus conquests looked like taken against their will, that was pretty much the way to woo women at the time. Had Zeus myths been written in modern days, they wouldn't have looked so forceful.

[@JohnCena8351]

"But I would have traded the decades that followed for mere hours with her" Ouch. You can *feel* that sentence. Poor Kratos.

[@cowboyknyt]

That "worse it was" just hurts.

[@comicalcosmonaut959]

The slight tremble in his voice…😢

[@PabloJab2023]

"A hero would sacrifice you to save the world, but a villain would sacrifice the world to save you." In the end, He ended up destroying the world no one deserves. It's hard to categorize kratos as hero or villain.

[@my_girl_seraphine5294]

I hope he gets to see her again one day and she could get to know the man he is now instead of the one who left her behind.

[@Norinia]

If she does appear, she will not be so forgiving upon first seeing him. That, or she’ll then be proclaiming the wonders of her -insertwhatevernameforadeathcult-, and how because of it, they’ll be together forever. Whatever happens, will not be a pretty picture for Kratos.

[@my_girl_seraphine5294]

@@Norinia If either of those things do happen then they’d fight and talk like how it went with Freyja

[@viniciusrocha7797]

I wonder if they are setting up Calliope return to the story. I can only imagine she would probably grow to resemble her younger dad

[@bruh5073]

If the series ever returns to Greece then yes which it most likely wont

[@ashurad_fox5991]

Considering Atreus is now adventuring... he might stumble to Olympus, meet Aphrodite and maybe see Calliope like that. Could be cool side story/dlc

[@javiervasquez625]

Considering Calliope, Lysandra, Calisto, Deimos and Orkos are all _dead_ as of God of War 3 i doubt either of them managed to come back to life after the Underworld was destroyed.

[@calebstephan2083]

@@javiervasquez625it wasn’t destroyed lol. The souls of the underworld escaped after hades death

[@javiervasquez625]

@@calebstephan2083 Hades _controls_ the Underworld. No Hades = no Underworld = the Underworld was destroyed.

[@Dean123123100]

Can you imagine how well Chains of Olympus conveyed Kratos' sheer determination, will, sadness and restraint when trying to leave Calliope ? This man, this GOD. Who has slain monsters, giants and so many other gods while being guided by our hands, pummeling them with evey press of the O button. It takes strength, power, determination, and sheer fucking *WILL* equal to those needed to slay GODS, for this one man to give up his beloved child. Kratos truly was fighting himself every moment of that interaction, just so that he wouldn't make the wrong choice and doom his daughter.

[@maazuponvelocity]

And he couldn't even look her in the face or respond or talk to her, as he knew he would've stayed if he did.

[@francescolabate9650]

"It had been so long since i felt such joy" 😭😭

[@tonybippitykaye]

Mimir is honestly one of the best supportive characters I’ve seen in a game. The guy doesn’t prod or question Kratos more than he’s comfortable and even when he does, he doesn’t question Kratos or tell him if he was right or wrong; he just lets him speak and listens. Sometimes that’s all someone needs: an ear to listen. I wish I could have a head of Mimir to talk to myself.

[@danielgeronimo5538]

Oh that part of Chain of Olympus was one of the most painful moments in gaming history imo. Press O to abandon daughter forever in order to save an ungrateful flashlight

[@emperorzizen1081]

Something of absolutely tragic detail is during the scene of Kratos leaving Calliope behind. It wasn’t just a cutscene of him reluctantly leaving and his daughter begging him to stay. It was a “quick time cutscene.” Meaning anytime she hugged you to keep you from leaving, you’d have to press ⭕️ or another button to push her away until Kratos makes his ultimate choice. That’s how much he didn’t want to leave. It’s so sad and tragic.

[@rayhanansari1506]

I love it how Mimir turned out to be the best friend Kratos never had

[@andreware2039]

This dlc just launched critical hits to the feels 😭

[@mzk4193]

Imagine if Atreus stumbles upon an vengeful calliope who escaped elisium. The fact that Kratos raised a good son while he felt her alone and forgotten would not help at all, and a boss fight against here would be great

[@soldiergigas14]

That's hardcore to think about. I can only imagine there would be some form of understanding between them😢

[@NoCluYT]

0:34 Mimir bringing it up was kind of funny. He's telling Kratos he doesn't have to bring it up, but at the same time just described what the moment was.

[@Tmaster2006YT]

While on a surface level it is contradictory, people who have suffered trauma can only speak from the heart when describing what happened. Even if it’s something vague, personally describing their trauma can feel like reliving it again, especially if their trauma is rooted deep enough. Interpret this scene with that information what you will.

[@comicalcosmonaut959]

The more he talks about Lysandra and Calliope, the more my heart shatters 😢 Also, HOLY SHIT, THEY MENTIONED THE EVENTS OF CHAINS OF OLYMPUS!!!

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

They mentioned his cameo in Mortal Kombat. Santa Monica writers are huge nerds and I love them for it.

[@JdawgCosplay]

I watched a video of all the cutscenes and saw a comment saying that Kratos never mentioned Calliope at all (Yeah he seemed to have forgot about Kratos telling Freya about her) I hope he sees this video and realizes how stupid that comment was.

[@newhybrid101]

I cant blame him,the game is surprisingly disappointing,i wouldn't pay attention either if i wasnt a total nerd

[@sebastienguanzon4978]

I mean, most of those comments come from people that haven't played the game so it's unsurprising. Doesn't help that usually it's also from extremely annoying OG GOW trilogy fanboys.

[@maxhernandez239]

Man I was little when I played chains of Olympus and hearing kratos talking about it feels so weird to me.crazy how times fly’s

[@adityapalve2255]

so kratos still miss his daughter 😢

[@Oddfosshaugbagi]

No shit

[@DragonicGameSlayer-DGS]

Remember when Calliope was crying for Kratos not to leave her in "Chains of Olympus"? I was young when I saw that scene, and even then it was painful.

[@redpilledhispanic1239]

The part where Kratos yelled to Atlas”It is all I have left Atlas!” Made me sad

[@enderethan144]

What would I give to have a cutscene of Calliope and Atreus together? It’d be both cool and emotional to see Atreus’ reaction to meeting someone that shares 50% of his blood.

[@futureelement924]

Essentially every time Kratos said another time Valhalla said "YOU WILL SPEAK ABOUT THIS GLARING ISSUE ASSHOLE"😂😂😂

[@efaristi9737]

"And hope she found peace". Unlikely, since the Underwold was destroyed with Hades so too was probably Elysium.

[@JohnWall-lj1mx]

Underworld wasn’t destroyed just left in chaos without anyone running it so those already in elysium are likely fine it’s just that everyone else that died after kratos killed hades got no judgement or afterlife

[@Broomer52]

It’s still there, when Hades died the dead no longer had to stay where they were. If Elysium were dead it would mean Atlas was dead and that world would have collapsed on top of it.

[@justnoob8141]

It wasn’t destroyed, the gatekeeper was killed

[@efaristi9737]

@@justnoob8141 Hades wasn't the Gatekeeper, that's Cerberus.

[@efaristi9737]

@@Broomer52 That's worse actually, that mean the evils souls certainly come pouring into Elysium. If the Underworld is in chaos, so is Elysium. Is Atlas even still alive ? The Greek world did collapse in more ways than one.

[@iandrsaurri625]

The most fascinating thing I find about this conversation, is that when he says he wishes he had stayed with Calliope in Elysium, he only mentions the fact that he could have had more hours with her. Not the fact that, he traded that to save the whole world (which he did and I always found rather heroic and selfless). However, even after all this time becoming a better person, he still does not care about that. He still only cares about being able to spend time with him and his daughter. It is interesting that, that part of his character has not changed at all. In his own words, "I care little for the world and its suffering, WHERE IS SHE!"

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

1:35 I want to go back and kill the Greek Pantheon a 2nd time.

[@mosisusasu9205]

Atreus winding up in Elysium on his journey and meeting Calliope would be awesome

[@truth_e-lectric50]

If that were to happen, Atreus would be actually coming face to face with his sister, since both of them had Kratos as their Dad. It's all bloodline related.

[@kelvinlin8677]

@@truth_e-lectric50 but him and his older sister wouldn't knew each other since their father never told them anything about them being siblings

[@greendemon905]

I always wondered how exactly the deaths of Hades and Persephone would affect the underworld. Persephone was a nature goddess before marrying Hades. Elysium may have very well died with her. I have this dark theory that, by killing the rulers of the underworld, Kratos damned the souls of his wife and daughter to either wander a dead surface world, or be stuck eternally in a broken afterlife.

[@acronyx991]

My theory is that because they are wondering lost, they may have been taken or found their way to a different pantheon. Enter Anubis and the Egyptian pantheon which is what would be the reason for Kratos going to Egypt in order to correct the wrongs of his past.

[@socriabbas454]

"Worse, it was" I love the indication here. The greek gods didnt use the image of her daughter THEY ACTUALLY USED HER to trick Kratos, this time it wasn't a lie but still he got bamboozled to give up his godly powers so he can be with her but if she did that Persephone would destroy all creations itself that means actually destroying Calliope.

[@ВладиславБулаев-л3э]

The way he delivers this line just makes tears come up to your eyes

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

This absolute unit of a man has been THROUGH IT

[@kratosgow09]

Chains of Olympus, where Kratos was forced to let go of his daughter. The hardest Qte in the entire series.

[@boltgamer7]

I don't know if I'm the only one thinking this but I think Calliope could become a potential future antagonist in the God of War series. I mean she has all the reason to hate kratos and desire revenge against him. I mean Kratos killed her and her mother, abandoned her in the fields, destroyed her home and her people, and then moved on from her and her mother to have another wife and kid leaving her defenseless and alone in a runied and destroyed Greece🤔

[@sharpnighttoo3667]

this dlc was kratos going to therapy.

[@danielcarrillo4385]

Mimir doesn't prod or push Kratos to relive his trauma, he lets him open up on his time......a true friend

[@legionofmetal9968]

Watching this video...I am reminded VERY STRONGLY why the greek pantheons had to DIE. I am not a father. Nor am i going to be any time soon. But every word kratos said hurt my fatherly heart in ways that should not ever happen.

[@sbcs2809]

Less of the Greek pantheon, but the gods that inhabited them

[@cjmania1980]

This is the proof that the new God of War games’ story is so good because the old games back it up and shows such a big evolution for the character. They complete each other in such a beautiful way.

[@garrettcarter5622]

Someone on the writing staff LOVED Chains of Olympus and put it all throughout this DLC.

[@calebstephan2083]

There’s so many times kratos talks about calliope. Even in the base game. Is these hints that we might see her again in the future. Remember after kratos killed hades the souls of the underworld escaped. I wouldn’t be surprised if calliope was revived after that.

[@my_girl_seraphine5294]

I hope we get to see her again in the future

[@taddad2641]

...... in retrospect, she also has god blood in her.

[@my_girl_seraphine5294]

@@taddad2641 That is very true, so she could be back at some point

[@Broomer52]

@@taddad2641 fun fact every named person in Kratos’ family are real life minor gods in Greece. The games even hint that it’s more than a coincidence too. Deimos is the God of Dread and is deeply feared, Calliope is a Goddess of Music and Poetry and her singing is such an integral part of her character that Kratos knows instantly it’s her when he hears singing in the Afterlife. Even in God of War 3 you hear her singing the entire time your in the land of Hades and a note you find mentions how torturous it is because of how beautiful it is in this land of misery.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@Broomer52 I've read theories from some fans suggesting Calliope could potentially become a goddess of a "New Olympus" to replace the previous one in order to restablish the greek realm very similarly as it is happening with the norse realms following GoW: Ragnarok. Wether there's any plausability for such a scenario without dismissing the power of Hope been released into the world at the end of GoW 3 it would be the perfect opportunity for father and daughter to reunite while also allowing the greek and norse realms to forge an allegiance at the same time able to keep the other one safe from potential threats.

[@novah5575]

foreshadowing Calliope come to get Kratos by the order of Athena. Calliope The Flute in Death... Yeah, I don't know the Myth or lore of the story but the Word is a catching name.🤔 Calliope control the UnDead Attack Kratos and his friend. Atreus came to the rescue but they can't beat Calliope, while they are fight Kratos know something not right about Calliope. He grad Calliope ran into Valhalla, where Tyr at his inner peace just to crash his peace. "Valhalla Master thyself!" Kratos and Atreus go to Calliope Memory lane Chirdhood to Boss Battle she become. They try to reason her or change her mind. But Athena say nope, Cursed her Unspeakable Pain that Calliope body Can't Die to escape the Cursed. Kratos was Furious that he can't help Calliope, but Tyr and Atreus can save her, as save her soul to another body. Calliope reborn as Hel. Yeah is All Bulls is not even Canon. If they not making a New game.

[@ennisbolden7977]

A heartbreaking scene to play in the earlier games, and still as hard to remember it as he’s speaking about it to Mimir.

[@AizenVonKleiss]

Ahhh the events of Chains of Olympus, my first God Of War Game, my dad's gift back when I was in highschool and what introduced me to GoW(Yes I started there before the 1st GoW) it brings quite the nostalgia as well as sadness hearing Kratos tell about his 2nd and final separation with Calliope, when I first played that part, it was quite emotional for me too, since it was also the time my father had to work abroad for a long time and had to let each other go, I cried the 2nd time he had to go.

[@Megacooler96_]

Yeah, the pressing the circle button was very tough to do when pushing away Calliope and for good reason

[@robinthedragonhunter64]

The one thing I hope for more than anything else for the next god of war game is Atreus and Calliope meeting eachother and Atreus telling her how much his father had changed and how much he was trying to change the world to be better than he was

[@aced3657]

i could imagine atreus went down to tartarus in one of his journeys cause he heard a giant is still imprisoned under their but when he got to their its only a corpse holding the world so he left but took a wrong turn and end up in elysium and heard a haunting tone that he never heard before but it felt so familiar and met calliope, he talked to the spirit for quite awhile and was in shock she was his half sister but played along as he didnt know just to understand their father's past, at first atreus was genuinely hurt knowing his father had a family before him and his mother but as the two converse on, he then he sense pity, remorse and sorrow for what happened to his father and his first family and eventually revealed to calliope that he was his little brother, at first calliope was in shock but eventually estatic to realize he has a younger brother, granted atreus states that even he is the little brothee, the spirit he was talking to is in fact visually younger than him which the two gave a wholesome banter, as the time stretches on as they converse its time for atreus to go back to the world of the living but promise to visit calliope as much as he can and he part and saids his farewell to calliope, afar a figure was watching them the whole time and it turns out to be pandora just smiling and seeing the two children of kratos getting acquainted

[@strtfghtr88]

I just wish people would stop saying that the original series wasnt deep or that Kratos was 1 dimensional. The scene with Kratos literally pushing his daughter away to save all of existence was compelling storytelling. More than alot of people new to the series give the entire original series credit for. The original series had to walk so that the newer titles could run

[@acronyx991]

I would love Kratos to be able to meet his wife and child again. If I thought up of a potential direction for the story to go, I was thinking that all the Souls in Greece would've been lost and needing guidance after Kratos destroyed it. They could've ended up in Egypt under Anubis which would bring Kratos to Egypt. Souls from a different Domain would cause chaos in Egypt and Kratos would have to restore order whilst coming to terms with the ghosts of his past literally. I would love to see Atreus meet his older sister aswell.

[@wolfranga8477]

1:47 This was the hardest thing i have ever done. Before I did this mission. I stopped playing for 4 weeks. So i can go by that mindset that Kratos and Calliope have spent time together. I know it's just a game but it's still hurts to think for people who lost their children.

[@nicholasrodriguez4990]

I was hoping Mimir asked kratos what happened to the Elysium fields after he destroyed Greece

[@Broomer52]

I don’t think Kratos would know or care to know. It would bring him no peace, because we wouldn’t be able to enter even if it was still there, however Calliope is likely still “alive” because Hades dying doesn’t mean the souls and realms of Hades disappear, it just means The Afterlife is a suggestion and the dead can leave whenever they want.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@Broomer52 Mind you we don't know how much control over their existence the souls of dead actually have to be able to _choose_ what to do as a disembodied spirit devoid of purpose or identity after loosing their physical self so for all we know when Hades died all the souls bound by his magic to dwell in the Underworld lost their sense of individuality as they were set adrift into the chaos that was unleashed following Kratos's killing of the Olympians.

[@thenewmase]

I have always agreed that Kratos was always deep, people just focused too much on the action pieces

[@NinjaXFiles]

Chains of Olympus, the 1st game I beat on the hardest difficulty.. So glad they still remember the PSP days

[@Goldknight1997]

Calliope is the daughter of Kratos. I'm positive she found her way.

[@altair227]

Greek games in unmatched. A remake of God of War 2 would break the internet with todays graphics and visuals.

[@MigrantTheGreat]

If anybody is wondering what "Calliope's Song" sounded like look up Flute of Calliope. It's from GOW: Chain's Of Olympus OST and it is arguably the most haunting song of the Greek Saga

[@Straightforward-iPhone-Tips]

I am glad to have walked this journey with Kratos.

[@NoCluYT]

It appears that it hasn't been 1000 years as we've once thought. It's most likely been around 100 years since the original games since he mentioned "decades" instead of centuries before he met Faye.

[@Papa_Waffles]

Oh god, remembering that QTE was heart wrenching, the amount of effort it took to just push her away. Kratos fought the most powerful thing in existence, a parent's love for their child and it was a hollow victory. I paused at the end of that QTE just to compose myself again cause I wanted to cry. I like this, trip down memory lane, to confront and embrace Kratos's past to make peace with himself.

[@dwecktek]

It’s so weird to think that about the entire situation with his daughter, not only is she basically alive after death ya know because afterlife and all that but she’s also in an entirely different afterlife than the one he’s in right now, like you can say she’s in a past timeline that’s set in another dimension it’s sounds so weird when you say it out loud

[@noname768397]

i love how not only refferencing the main game OG God of War, they also refferencing the portable side stories

[@jaleelhoyle3539]

What if calliope became some badass demigod who some how survived and found Kratos again. I highly doubt that would happened due to how the entire Greek world was destroyed and it was over a thousand year ago

[@kin4386]

I think what makes Calliope so important in the story of Ragnarok was that it was the first time Kratos had gotten the chance to see a child of his grow up to be a teenager and become independent. He never got to see Calliope progress like Atreus had. It's sad, but also probably comforting to Kratos, like he's making up for a mistake. I do wonder how Calliope and Atreus may have gotten along if they somehow met.

[@daryno9048]

I love how Valhalla gave kratos a chance to reflect on the games before the Norse mythology, really highlight how important those moments were to kratos development as a character. I wish they could had bought up Deimos in Valhalla as well

[@ajizel13]

The song calliope played was the theme to the OG god of war...

[@azrael_morningstar]

Imagine Athena ressurected her and raised her to hate Kratos for abandoning her lol. Maybe she tries and kills atreus then kratos has to try and stop it, let her kill atreus or kill calliope.

[@CB66941]

I always like it when games remember the PSP ones, even when they didn't do so well.

[@devilishgenius]

Lets take a step back and appreciate. Kratos was able to hand carve a flute. Shows the wide variety of skills and trades spartans knew

[@marvelnarniaarda6241]

When the underworlds where destroyed the souls simply fly away, in freedom.

[@guynamedbob8374]

I like to think Calliope has become the new god of the Underworld, after Hades and Persephone’s deaths.

[@cloudtheavegner1000]

Ironically, forgetting Calliope's song showed he was finally letting go of his past. Faye and Atreus gave Kratos a future to pursue instead of a past to mourn.

[@pkiekow0]

it would be fun for Calliope to help Atreus become a better god

[@rairai3922]

I have a theory that the next DLC/Game will be Atreus trying to find the lost giants, and ends up taking the same magical ways to travel to other pantheons as Tyr did to find them. He'll stumble upon what's left of the Greek Pantheon and will learn about Kratos' bloodshed and why he performed such a heinous act. This will make him realize that his father wasn't just mighty with a stoic personality. But rather, a product of someone who had dealt a great deal of pain, which would make him question himself even more. Maybe in the end, as he gets past this internal conflict/learning about his father to continue his mission, he takes the wrong way back to the Norse Pantheon and finds himself in the mystical River of the Nile.

[@navaneethpatrisRex]

There should be a scene in the next game where kratos sees his first wife and daughter in some form or other. Like how he used to see faye in his dreams. I think it's a much needed reunion. Maybe perhaps in the next game.

[@AshlessChaps]

some of yall need an Uncle Iroh in your life and it shows

[@thalasowo3373]

That is one of the most traumatizing things the gods have ever done with Kratos. It really adds a whole lot more sense of why he hate gods so much. Really hoping Calliope found peace :/

[@GreenBro11]

God of War Chains of Olympus did one of the coldest things ever by making Kratos pushing away his daughter a quick time event! Mash ⭕️ to abandon your daughter.

[@RagnarKorg3141]

Despite the past that he has repressed for centuries, he misses his daughter every day

[@spongeyspikes09]

I remember playing Chains of Olympus on the PSP, damn I still remember the part where you had to mash the button to make Kratos push Calliope away, Just heartbreaking

[@JCRXV]

I hope that when the games officially end on a high note that our anti-hero of a father is finally given some sort of reprieve to enter Elysium to be reunited with his family

[@KStheArtist25]

Potential remake with the young Kratos maybe 😮

[@RipCord1995]

Not needed. Kratos is describing what happened in the game Chains of Olympus on PSP. Highly recommended you try that game even on emulator.

[@kienphucnguyen2001]

2:41 that hit me hard 😢

[@tentayeprimo6674]

It's kinda funny Mimir genuinely expected Kratos to play the flute at first

[@AmericanMade87]

Rumor is they might bring her back in a future game.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

You know talking about what bothers you can help take out the pressure and help calm your mind

[@ComradeCowboy3141]

I appreciate the references to the spinoff games.

[@InAeternumRomaMater]

I think out of everything that Kratos has spoken, him saying "I hope she found peace" is the most wrong thing he has ever spoken

[@PaulSchlock]

People keep talking about how sad the QTE was but don't mention the "Deadbeat Dad" Achievement that pops up right after you do it lol

[@one8494]

Asura would never let that happen.

[@sevenapollo6882]

Let's be real here, with the death of the gods and the titans, the elysium fields are probably gone.

[@DaveMiller6042]

2:28 And body, don't forget that as well

[@vi5692]

“A flute! Won’t you play us something haha” “It was my daighter’s” “Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck…”

[@roynardpinder6691]

They should make calliope the villain in the next gow she wants to take revenge on kratos for killing her and having a new family and Athena actually the one to bring her back and train her to kill kratos, that will be a plot twist

[@abdulazimnaushad]

Nah not this.

[@kojoydesu4107]

thats not plot twist. thats child brain wanting glorification of basal thinking that formed a bad storytelling. thats Obito Uchiha want to destroy the world because Rin Died

[@Bigmellow_]

WOKE

[@danielestevao5]

Nah thats dumb man 😂

[@DONG-502]

Bullshit

[@hordakprime6172]

I think a good twist would be for Calliope to return as a war goddess and to be brainwashed against Kratos and Atreyus.

[@blackdahlya66]

Calliope should lowkey come back from the dead and be the villain in the next god of war. She leads an army of the dead to take revenge on everyone who wronged them

[@thegrammarpolice69]

That QTE was the hardest in all of Gow