Finally, an objective review that points out both bad and good. I knew there were some design flaws just looking at the new 702pro. All the other reviews on youtube at the moment, seem to just kiss Kreg ass and do not point out the design failures. Subscribed!
@cbbbbbbbbbbbb3 жыл бұрын
Wow. 1 step forward, 15 steps back. Product is terribly thought out. Definitely staying with the K5.
@dannyh.74903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review ! I'll keep my K5 !
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I'm keeping mine too, fingers crossed they hold up lots more years!
@smurftastic39283 жыл бұрын
I'm staying with my K5👍 thanks for video 👍
@johnleonard58573 жыл бұрын
Great job. Love my K5 and had no desire to replace it and now I really have no desire to upgrade. The few improvements don’t outweigh the design flaws. Hopefully they will address these issues on the next system.
@sweetpapa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for comparing. I just bought a K5 and just heard about the 720. I instantly had buyers remorse until I watched your video.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. The K5 is the way to go!
@nathanpotter85692 ай бұрын
As I just posted on another page that I can't justify spending the money on the new unit.. cause the k5 unit I have hasn't been used enough to make that purchase. I come across this gem of a video. Now, I am going back to looking at more in-depth videos of how to use the k5 system. I bought it like 7 years ago... and the time plus chemo brain has left all that information in the past and need to relearn how to use it better.
@tomtremblay81252 жыл бұрын
I have the K5 and love it. Contrary to a comment about the dust collection, I find it to be very good. Yes it does pop out sometimes but I clamp my vac hose for stability and pretty much eliminates any hassle. Thank you for this review. I was going to buy the 720pro for a Christmas give but found a K5 to bought instead. The K5 is rock solid, in my opinion. So many "improvements" companies make to develop a slicker product end up "breaking something that ain't broke". Another reviewer had similar comments so yours are right on and actually noticed a few more annoying design issues. I hope Kreg is watching! Thanks again.
@lindamarsden4553 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for a jig and can't get a K5, then try the Armor Auto-Jig Pocket Hole System (APJ1400), I have both and there are many features on the Armor that are great (auto adjust, dust collection etc.). I especially like their clamps an feel they work better than the newer Kreg clamps.
@mergalinpillay24132 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. Have K5, thought about upgrading, but listening to you, shelved the idea. Well done.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@garywilson34823 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the objective review. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on 720 pro and after watching your review I think I am going with the K-5. Thank you again.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@randybaylor6273 жыл бұрын
I second that
@Tocsik873 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest breakdown of the pros and cons on the new jig. I bought a K5 master system which I haven't had time to use yet. I saw the new one came out and my 90 day return window closes tomorrow. I think I'll keep the K5.
@laurco3 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks. I was just starting to buy a pocket hole system and saw another KZbin review of the 720 which also pointed out how poorly it was made. Bought a K-5 as you suggested. Great point on being able to bring the jig insert to clamp directly on a project if you forget a pocket hole. K-4 and K-5 have been well proven and solid.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I've definitely had to use the drill guide inserts that way on my own projects before, so I thought it was a pretty big deal! It's also useful for repairs. You're gonna love the K5!
@brianmorris80452 жыл бұрын
Am happy with my K3, and K5 jigs...worth every penny I paid for them.
@donaldjones46933 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review I happen to agree with you the K5 is probably the best of the two that like I said I found a K5 on mine and I bought it last night I am bought one for the first time I and I will be using it to be old farmhouse furniture oh no I’m just a beginner builder but once again thanks for your honest opinion and thank you very much
@g.m.forsythe96263 жыл бұрын
Excellent Review! I'm really not about to replace my K4, but if I were, I would definitely go with the Armor Jig. It really has taken this tool to a whole new level.
@yupsup843 жыл бұрын
I used these recently to build a cabinet. I second all the points you brought up.
@g5flyr1693 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting another great and honest review. At 6:42 I decided that I am keeping my K5.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
LOL, it just keeps getting worse for the 720PRO the longer you watch! 😂
@drmnez3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Was gonna buy but I’m gonna wait for the next iteration
@mikeboyle98042 жыл бұрын
I am very grateful for this review. I bought the 720Pro and thankfully have not taken it out of the box as of yet. I will be returning this tomorrow
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@rosevan54853 жыл бұрын
Great thorough review. Thank-you !
@miriamsinclair1655 Жыл бұрын
Your comments worth a lot for the R & D team at KREG !
@DoresoomReviews Жыл бұрын
I hope they listen!
@M-J-P3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent review. I returned mine today two days prior to return window. And went with K4.
@gbcdmd Жыл бұрын
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Kreg 720PRO but I will wait until Kreg decides to make the improvements since I have had a K4 for many years which I have built into a plywood docking station. The new one would be more convenient but I do not like flimsy tools.
@richardrodgers18832 жыл бұрын
I recently saw a demo of this being done at at a Lowes store in Tucson Az. . The guy was a Lowes employee not a Kerg Rep ,He took a brand new unit out of the box and went thru the setup and showed the various options. He then took a couple of pieces of wood to join together and the Auto clamp broke , he laughed about the good return policy and then opened another New unit and tried it and it also broke on about the third time. So based on this I think I will keep my K4 and lookaround for a K5 as well.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's pretty bad! K5 is the way to go in my opinion.
@karlpopewoodcraft3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this brilliant comparison mate, I'm definitely sticking with my K5. I was actually chuffed seeing that kreg had now managed to make a system with the auto adjustment but it's not worth the downgrade in all the other areas. Looks like it's definitely made to a tight budget as well, definitely not as robust looking as the K5. Thanks again mate, just saved me a few quid and a load of disappointment.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@Rishi.Rao.3 жыл бұрын
Best review yet.. may just keep my K5
@treebossmike88183 жыл бұрын
Saw this at Lowe’s the other day. Didn’t have the price and couldn’t find a price on their app. So glad I didn’t buy this! I have the K4 and love it. This new 720pro looks like addition through subtraction if you ask me.
@MikeC191002 жыл бұрын
I just found this video and am very glad that you made it. I was wondering how much difference there was between the K5 and the 720 Pro and you covered all the bases very well. I totally agree with your assessment and the shortcomings with the new model. The dust collection on the K5 have been a major issue for me and I had to rig something nonstandard just to keep the hose in place while I used it. I purchased the K5 master kit so I got all the extra size inserts and it's a bummer that they won't work on the 520 or 720 models.
@tonyc73523 жыл бұрын
It was a long review but packed with lots of good, useful detail. Very good. Thank you.
@talentonboard24563 жыл бұрын
I always like how you point out the things that can happen over time and how you hold your tool may interfere. I totally need to drill strait down. I have k 4. I hope kreg listens to you. I don’t think you are off base. Plastic where metal was on previous models seems like a bad option. Thank you for your channel!
@alohahoward1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, just what I thought we I first saw the 720. Unfortunately, the K5 or K4 are only available on ebay at a ridiculous price so I'm going to buy the Massca M2.
@drright2410 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid, I looked good and hard at the 720PRO and decided against it. I do have the very portable 520 though that I like. I have the K5 with both guide blocks as well. So easy to remove it and it's a lot more versatile
@johncstahnii66343 жыл бұрын
I really like the self adjustment feature for various thicknesses of wood for the 720 pro, also flipping the unit over for sheet goods. BUT the cons you described will prevent me from buying it. I’m retired & on a fixed income so I really investigate new purchases. I’ve been using the K-4 & K-5 since they came out. I use one for 1 1/2” lumber & the other for 1/2” & 3/4” ply wood or solid stock. They’re each mounted on a sheet of ply with their own drill bit. The ply board had a set of blocks to hold sheet goods w/I me holding them. When I’m finished I hand them on my French cleat wall & move on. Granted not as convienent as the new one but I’m not in a huge rush to drill pocket holes. The 720 is sleek looking but seems too wobbly. I have several Kreg jigs & accessories & they’re all well built. This is a fail-for me. Thanks for the review.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@ragcell2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I am sticking with my K4. You answered one question no other KZbinr addressed: can I use my current drill guides with the 720Pro. I suspected they would not, but one can imagine they would have allowed this. Now, seeing their third-rate effort to "minimize" the new key key hole jig…Geez…
@dustisamust56023 жыл бұрын
As always, a fair-minded, thoughtful and candid review. 8 minutes in the decision was easy...not good. I own an excellent alternative to the K5 which is made entirely of metal, has extendable side arms with stop blocks and adjusts easily. You might give it a look: Massca Pro Aluminum Pocket Hole Jig System M2.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I've heard of Massca, but never felt the need to look beyond the K5. Maybe I need to take a closer look!
@dustisamust56023 жыл бұрын
@@DoresoomReviews The quality is apparent the moment you lay your hands on it. It's not revolutionary, just well made and well thought out.
@a-carpenter92293 жыл бұрын
I've seen those advertised on Instagram, do you know what the angle the holes are drilled at? The problem with the likes of kreg jigs is no matter how tight you clamp the two work pieces together they always move when you drive the screws in. There's a company called castle that uses routers to cut their pockets at less of an angle and the pieces of wood stay flush when screwed. Stumpy nubs just posted a video on cools tools he has in his shop with the castle jig included
@dustisamust56023 жыл бұрын
@@a-carpenter9229 Yes, saw the video and the pocket-hole-router appliance looks far more advanced and really excellent. It is close to $500 though, so it would be a bit much for an amateur like myself.
@zapa1pnt3 жыл бұрын
The Massca looks like a good deal. The same as a K-4 but aluminum. Now if they would just pit the lever in the front, like the K-5, they would really have something. If anyone is wanting a K-4 or K-5, you better get it quick. Kreg has discontinued both
@edymoss3466 Жыл бұрын
Thank God, I bought K5 system This new system doesn’t look like it’s gonna last too long Certainly not worth the money they’re asking for K5 much better
@grumpywiseguy59923 жыл бұрын
It seems like no one tested this thing out before the design was finalized. What a horrible design just for a semi automatic pressure feature. Great review. I will keep my K5
@judisofka4013 жыл бұрын
Wow, great review. You did a great job showing all the pros and cons of this new system. I listened to another review this morning that had almost exactly the same complaints. I’m going to hold on to my K5 and save the money and the aggravation that come with this new jig. Thanks for the info!
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@terrygrossjr83 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a K5 off ebay! Thanks for the video.
@ghostface17372 жыл бұрын
Solid review. You’ve helped me stay away from the 720pro. Very disappointing because I’ve been a Kreg fanboy for many years. Thanks!
@1975oldschool3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison man! Although j think the dust collection system on my K5 is pretty dang good. The ridged vac adapter works perfect on it. Almost sounds like if you have the K5, then keep it. But if you’re looking for a new one getting into Kreg and pocket holes, the Pro is a decent option. Doesn’t look appealing to me though.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Good observation, the 720 is a little more user friendly for a beginner. No way I'm giving up my K5 though! Do you know the part number for the Ridgid adapter? I'd be interested to try it!
@johnpombrio3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thorough review! I was considering the newest jig while not realizing that my K5 (which I love) works better in most respects. What I DID do was to buy the accessories for my K5 while they are still available! One strange part of your review of the K5 was the dust collector being loose. My version of the K5 has the dust collector in really tight, enough that I am not sure that it is even removable. I have a 3 step rubber adapter that attaches to my Festool vacuum perfectly and it never slips. Design change at some point? Dust collection works great so whatever. I bought a Kreg KPDGB Jig Portable Drill Guide Base for using on large sheet stock, the HD guide block and a spare regular guide block replacement, again while they still are available, heh. I am lucky enough to have a Festool Domino Jointer for mortise joints where I use the pocket holes to solidly fasten the joint together. I don't even bother with glue with that setup which makes repairs or adjustments a snap. The micro jig has not been missed since I bought my first Kreg jig so I must not need it. Again, thanks for the review. I even learned how to use my K5 better.
@diyenthu28442 жыл бұрын
You, sir, are legit! Subscribed, and hope you get many more... Please keep this u p.
@billdiehl1563 жыл бұрын
Great review! I’m gonna keep my K4. I did buy the Armor clamp attachment for my K4 and that’s improved the clamping pressure.
@pattonphotography24512 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks. Going with the K5. Save me a lot of headaches
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@spkendrick3 жыл бұрын
I love my K4 with the armor tool auto tension clamp. I really wanted to like this. I actually bought one... glad i haven’t used it yet
@KyleVeatch3 жыл бұрын
I agree that if you have a K5 it is probably not worth the upgrade, but coming from a K4 I will probably upgrade.
@GospelBearer3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful in choosing the right jig, thanks!
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@marke36232 жыл бұрын
Great review. You saved me some money on a non-upgrade! Thanks!
@donaldjones46932 жыл бұрын
I think you’re right on target I bought the K5 there’s no way I was buying that 720 way too many problems the K5 is the only way to go is the best one on the market they need to bring it back no doubt
@steveiv92502 жыл бұрын
K5 it is ! , Thanks for the great comparison and unbiased honest review and helping with my decision before purchase of a pocket hole jig. Cheers. Great job !
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@nickp31733 ай бұрын
My 720PRO came with a standalone pocket hole jig as well
@Autotech4623 жыл бұрын
Great review I just bought the 720pro thanks for your pro and cons
@RiverRat9042 жыл бұрын
I hope this clamping system is better than my K5. Mine broke 3rd time I used it. I just use a clamp now. Works okay.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! What part of it broke, and were you able to contact Kreg for a warranty replacement?
@RiverRat9042 жыл бұрын
@@DoresoomReviews just bought a new 720 yesterday. The issue is when you clamp it, it won't bite on the track. There's a YT video about it. Apparently it's a common problem. Didn't contact them bc I waited almost a year to use it the first time. Love my new 720 though. It is night and day different!
@1975oldschool3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video comparison man!
@823Steve3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the really good review. If I thought I wanted the new 720 I will now totally disregard. I have all the older models including the K4 and K5 as well as all the preceeding ones which I will stick with. I actually like the K4 better than the K5. I think Kreg is over thinking the thing.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! I'm interested in what makes you like the K4 more than the K5? The clamp lever placement was the main reason I picked the K5 over the K4 myself.
@RonKillian3 жыл бұрын
@@DoresoomReviews I was thinking the same thing. I do quite a few pocket holes in bigger sheets of ply, the K4 rear clamp would make it very difficult to use.
@edymoss3466 Жыл бұрын
Great video comparison I personally have the K5 and although I bought it about still haven’t used . I also bought the micro plug so I can use it with thinker woods or hard woods. Afeter watching your video I must admit that I’m glad I have the K5 it is a much more versatile product and also sturdier than this new product that Kreg has come out with, as far as I’m it concerned the new version is really just a piece of junk compared to the K5. You know sometimes is the best solution is If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Sure anything can be improved but this time Kreg really bombed out
@robertgielow93923 жыл бұрын
Very informative I saw the new K Pro and I'm glad I watch this video I'll just go out and get a K5
@markhill44192 жыл бұрын
had my k5 over a year finally use it pretty easy already, 100 percent k5 is more useful
@j.c.89752 жыл бұрын
I'm keeping my K-5, thanks for the video.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Wise choice!
@richardlackie4193 жыл бұрын
Yes I tried the new one I was not very impressed and For me I love the K5 kit I may buy a spare just to have since Kreg does produce it any more .
@nelsoncarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and honest video as always. Thanks! 👍🏻 I was hoping to like this, but the issues with this just exacerbate my reservations about Kreg. I'll go with the Massca.
@Precisioninfrared2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you. Just purchased the k5 through Amazon.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@RonKillian3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed review! I've had the K5 for several years, drilled many, many pocket holes and it's always worked great for me. Was kind of looking at the 720, thinking it might have some useful features, but it's quite the opposite. Sadly they are improving some things, and making others worst. Also makes NO sense you won't be able to use the drill blocks separately, thanks for pointing that out. It also makes no sense they are dumping the K4 and K5, basically forcing their customers to the 720, which has too many issues. Such a BAD idea they will regret. They are going to push people to the competition. Are they forgetting they are not the only pocket hole jig in town? When/if my K5 can't be used, I won't be getting the 720. Worst yet, they obviously did NOT test this new design out, like getting real world users to give it a good go.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I bet they figured people would have to spend more money on their 320 jig if they wanted to use the drill guides separately. But it's inexcusable they didn't think of losing all options for a micro pocket hole drill guide that can be used separately. If I was Armor Tool or Massca, I'd be scrambling to claim the huge market share that Kreg just dumped by discontinuing the K4 and K5.
@RonKillian3 жыл бұрын
@@DoresoomReviews Exactly. Like they are trying to squeeze even more money from their customers. Never a good idea and probably backfire on them. Always happy with kreg products, but seems they are going off the rails wit their pocket hole products. Actually just bought one of their workbench units and really like it. One thing they are still doing right. I wasn't going to say Armor Tool, but that was the first thought :) Don't think they need to scramble much, Kreg is making it easier for them. Although I have not used it, am I the only one that thinks the 520 just looks incredibly awkward to use?
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I have the 520 too, still working on a review for that one. It's actually pretty awesome for plywood. I haven't used it much clamped down to a bench though.
@tassie7325 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was thinking of upgrading from my K5. But I think I will save my money Cheers
@smurftastic39283 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I'm keeping my K5 👍
@Jenuin3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the K5 now learning how to use it.
@mor82663 жыл бұрын
This is disappointing, it appears the engineers who designed legacy products, ie, K4 and K5 didn't have a lot of input on the 720. That's too bad. Great review!! Thanks
@wanesweb2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother that was one of the best reviews I've ever seen on anything lol I've got the K4 I thought I might upgrade I think I'll just stick with the K4 lol maybe K5 maybe I'll just wait until they get it right Great job awesome thank you
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@mattsitton68263 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I have been on the fence about buying the k5 for a long time. This new one seems pretty crappy. I took advantage of your link. Thanks again.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. You're gonna love the K5!
@franciscopistoia5652 жыл бұрын
Hola buenos días soy de Argentina , muy buena la explicación y comparación ,tengo el kreg 4 y se ve muy sólido en sus partes con respecto al 720 pro , lo iba. Comprar pero no me convence ,le noto muchas deficiencias , gracias .
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
If you've got the K4, I'd stick with that or consider upgrading to the K5. Too many design compromises in this 720 PRO!
@lindaa.9741 Жыл бұрын
outstanding comparison! Thank you
@andyfunke94843 жыл бұрын
Good review, brutally honest. Kreg may want to hold on to the molds for the K5 for awhile. I've seen a couple of other reviews of people who've used there own money to buy one. They're not overly enthusiastic either. It's amusing that they call them docking stations. The way it's designed, it looks like it could be right at home on a Star Trek set. The only all glowing reviews that I've seen, are done by people who had their hands on one before the release date, and their video was posted before as well. Like I said in a previous comment. We'll see how well the new jigs stand up to real world use and abuse. I'm sure Kreg has done there homework and tested them, but there's no way to test for real world genius. I won't be replacing my K5 any time soon. Hey, with the announcement of the discontinuation of the K4 & 5, maybe my K5 complete with all of the accessories, including a carrying case, may have just went up in value. I know at all of my favorites tool haunts that sells Kreg products they have more K4's than they do K5's. This one might just end up sitting on the shelf of shame along side Armors auto clamping pocket hole jig. I've been reading a few reviews, and quite a few people have gotten buyers remorse. Saying they should have bought a K5.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I think the worst part is that I REALLY wanted this 720 to be a home run. At least a lot of people will be able to score a K4 or K5 at clearance prices.
@andyfunke94843 жыл бұрын
@@DoresoomReviews, have you checked the 720 when clamping 2X material into it. There's a gap between the 2X material and the top of the drill guide block. Apparently, Kreg's technical support considers that gap as normal when clamping thicker materials. So, that an engineered flaw? Interesting. 🤔
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that there's a small gap with 1.5" thick workpieces. It seems the auto-adjust mechanism doesn't apply pressure uniformly across the whole jig. Definitely another mark against the 720.
@KJTEJ2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 720pro and the jig 320. So far I've been using more the 320 than the 720 version. What I hate is how cheaply made it feels! Specially the docking pads! They feel really, really, cheap! Just dropping your driller on them and you can be sure that they will break in pieces! You should do a review of the kreg 720 micro pocket hole attachment!
@loganmedia11422 жыл бұрын
They probably won't break, because it is flexible plastic.
@KJTEJ2 жыл бұрын
@@loganmedia1142 But I'm telling you, it feels really cheap! So soft! If you ever happen to have it you will know what I'm saying
@DoubleD723 жыл бұрын
I am glad people are calling out companies for cheap products. I get it plastic is how these companies plan to go. But wow this seems over priced for cheap plastic design. I would rather 3d print something this cheap.
@garycrooks98812 жыл бұрын
Excellent, objective review. "Stupid" is the word used to describe some of Kreg's reeky dink features and rightly so. Although Kreg is still the pocket leader, they better hear the hoof beats coming up behind them before they lose their leadership position over some of their "stupid" design featrues.
@waynebooker498 Жыл бұрын
The board mounting problems are the only real issues I see. The others are pretty minor. I drilled a 3/8" hole through the wings that flip out the sides to access the mounting holes. This way the wings stay in and I can drive screws into the holes and into a board. Now with the jig screwed down and the side boxes on I drilled screws through the box bottoms to hard mount them. Problem solved. With as much as you bitched about the K5 dust collection that you still recommend it.
@dwayneford19902 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this timely info. I mean REALLY timely because I was about to pull the trigger on the 720 Pro and have had a change of heart thanks to your review. It does look like it was engineered while smoking WAY too much weed. Flimsy is a nice word for the construction of this thing. I understand they want to make a profit but cutting corners that make the thing an expensive paper weight is simply not the way to roll. I may go with the Armor Tool or Massca pro.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@tedmcdonald33773 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review
@Gabru_S3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, honest and detailed review. This covers what a user will experience. I just recently got the K5 on sale. I’m keeping that one. This is a perfect example of a review and comparison video. Thank you Sir.
@ccadama3 жыл бұрын
@Doresoom Tool Reviews. Thanks for the great and VERY thorough review between the Kreg 720PRO and the K5 Pocket Hole Jigs. You didn't miss a thing. You have to wonder whether Kreg had enough design reviews and woodworkers test the 720PRO before they put them out on the market? Or maybe the engineers had the (original) design right (as designed) but the accountants had other goals (as delivered). You being former NASA, I'm sure you had such experience between engineering and accounting? Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I do wonder if they did ANY outside beta testing, other than the influencer blitz they put together for the launch of the new products. Engineering is almost always a tradeoff between function and cost. At NASA though, I was just on the operations side of things. So I made sure the astronauts on the ISS used the hardware within Boeing's design parameters.
@midnightcat61162 жыл бұрын
Wow, I’m so glad i watched your video. I’m bee to woodworking and was going to buy the 720 pro. It just looks really flimsy compared to the k5
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Quite a few places still have the K5 on clearance
@AG-lm5uf3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I almost bought this today. Good thing I didn’t.
@jamesmonteleone5603 Жыл бұрын
Very informational I think I'm going to get the K5 if I can find it. Thank you sir
@DoresoomReviews Жыл бұрын
If I hadn't also been interested in Kreg's plug cutter and micro pocket hole drill guide inserts, I would have strongly considered the Armor Tool jig and the Massca jig. Might be worth looking into if you can't find a K5.
@frankrodriguez64243 жыл бұрын
I truly do not understand how anyone can criticize the 720 jig. I have used the 320 for 10 yrs, i am a very low to medium skilled part time hobbyist. At first when i bought it i was skeptical about spending the $150 for this. Now i have built a few outdoor projects from Kreg website, this thing rocks. I just drilled 40 pocket holes in like 6 minutes , if that long. It would have taken me a hour to set up every hole to be drilled. The ease of the clamping, the setup, the on board storage. Dont hesitate to get this.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Sure, it's faster than the 320 jig. I have that one too. You've never used the K5 though, have you? It's just as fast as the 720, but doesn't have many of the 720's flaws.
@jimmydickson88543 жыл бұрын
That 720 is a deal breaker in my book ,I’ll stick with my K5 and micro pro ,I think Kregg needs to go back to the drawing board and fix all these problems people are pointing out to them
@wwmilanl3 жыл бұрын
Hello, after looking your video, I decide to purchase the K5 , thanks for your review.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@DR-zt9gs2 жыл бұрын
This is a great comparison of the two Kreg products. I have a question for you. I just bought a standard plug hole drill bit and didn't think to order the jig to go with it. It suggests the newer jig that fits the 720Pro. Do you know if the plug hole drill bit will work with the K5 and it's plug jig?
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
Kreg makes two different plug cutter guides - one for the 720, and then one for their K# models. This one is compatible with the older K4 and K5 jigs: amzn.to/3LWN8Gs This one is compatible with the 720 ONLY: amzn.to/3O2h71l It's really unfortunate Kreg didn't make them all cross-compatible.
@DoresoomReviews2 жыл бұрын
I just re-read your question and realized you were talking about the drill bit only. I believe that one is compatible with either jig insert guide. However, I don't think Kreg sells the guides without the drill bit. So your best bet is to return the bit and just buy the guide kit for whichever pocket hole jig you have.
@NELSONG123 жыл бұрын
Looks like the K5 is the way to go. It's a shame kreg discontinued the K5.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I think it's a huge mistake on their part, discontinuing their top jig model after just a week of sales data on the 720PRO.
@RussWilsonII3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was quite thorough! Thank you!
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@LacrosseMan04283 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Would you recommend picking up the K4 jig for $75 on clearance? I have the R3 kit and it has served me very well, just looking for an upgrade.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I haven't used the K4 myself, but that's a great price for it. The main reason I picked the K5 over the K4 was that the clamp lever is on the side closest to you. On the K4 you have to reach around the workpiece to engage the clamp. If that's not a big deal to you, then absolutely go for the K4!
@milkyway8083 жыл бұрын
When my first time to use this I ACCIDENTALLY DRILL ALL the way and hit the bottom of the plastic part🥲omg! Then watch the video again & again I still don’t get it!! I still learning
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Set the stop collar on the drill bit to match your workpiece thickness. I cover how to do that in the video at 5:00 for the 720 jig and 6:00 for the K5.
@milkyway8083 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it👍👍🙏
@keithwilliamson236 Жыл бұрын
I wanted the K5, but they're no longer available.
@DoresoomReviews Жыл бұрын
It's a shame they discontinued it.
@nobytes23 жыл бұрын
720 looks like a lot of corners were cut to reduce production costs and quality went to hell.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I think you hit the nail on the head. Kreg made a few flashy new design changes like auto width adjustment to catch everyone's attention, and then snuck in a bunch of shortcuts for the rest of the design.
@davidkelly54593 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get to the K5 and I’m good. Don’t do enough to upgrade yet! Great review though. K7 looks like an “overseas” product of shoddy workmanship...IMHO
@joemassena80513 жыл бұрын
great review, I'm going a different direction and buying the armor pocket hole jig.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
If Armor comes out with a custom plug cutter and micro drill guide, Kreg is going to be in a world of hurt. That's the main reason I originally picked the K5 over the Armor jig.
@LukeSalaiz3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Really surprised Kreg dropped the ball on this one, wtf. Not made in USA this time around, kind of a bummer. Thinking I'm going to just buy a K5 and get the 720 Pro v.2 whenever that may come around...
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Kreg can make a few quick changes so we don't have to wait that long for the updates. If they just had that adapter block for using the drill guides separately, I may have considered retiring my K5.
@edymoss34663 жыл бұрын
good and honest review I personally own the K5 and at first look at the pro 720 it looks cool but after watching your review which points out all the design flaws of the new 720 i think I will stick with the K5 system Kreg has a lot of design updates to the 720 pro before it can compare it to the much better K5 Thanks again for the review
@jackoneil41643 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. The Kreg 720 doesn't look promising. My gut is telling me the 720 won't be able to endure professional usage. It seems more suited for hobby work.
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I agree - I think Kreg was relying on the "wow" factor of an auto adjusting jig, and didn't pay enough attention to all the other design details.
@iamasusan11253 жыл бұрын
I got my 720pro today, but the drill bit can not run through the drill guide! Did you meet the problem as well?
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
I didn't have that problem. Is the drill guide just too small, or did you have the problem this Amazon reviewer did with a non-formed drill guide slot? www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1M2YWAWAIN4ZE/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B08BQC8TGZ You could also try checking to make sure the drill bit isn't bent by rolling it on a known flat surface and looking for wobble.
@iamasusan11253 жыл бұрын
@@DoresoomReviews wow, that’s big quality issue. mine is different, the jig guide has complete holes but it seems the hole is not bigger enough, so that my drill bit stuck at the middle and cannot go through. I talked to Kreg’s technical support, he wants me to just drill it and the drill bit will “ clean” the plastic ... but I think that’s a damage for my jig.....😭
@DoresoomReviews3 жыл бұрын
If it's just the plastic that's in the way, it won't hurt the drill bit. You can see there are already chewed up marks on my 720's plastic portions of the drill guide in my video. That's just from regular use too, since my drill bit fit through without having to drill out any plastic initially.