Kripke on Essential Properties

[@bblfish]

Great course. I had totally forgotten about Kripke's dualism argument regarding pain and c-fibre stimulation...

[@lydia5489]

That's an interesting argument to make about the c-fibers and pain, but there could also be a number of other factors that contribute to not feeling pain. The mind-body problem is a lot more complex than just dualism vs. materialism. It's too bad I wasn't taking this course back in 2017, instead I was taking a course on systems of psychology.

[@ismireghal68]

Still the c-fiber argument seems a major point. Apart from that i like the idea, that you can not say more than :" this pain occurs simultaneously with the firing of this and that." You can of course say :"it IS pain" but that is quite a stretch. So even if we can make out the material cause for pain in every possible world, it still stands to question, if that is somehow the objective facette of our subjective experience. I would doubt that, my intuition is that that's not how objectivity works, so correlation is all we can ever hope, to postulate between subjective experience and objective description.

[@ahmedbellankas2549]

Reference change, is not this a game among individuals or at least a decision-setting scenario (decision theory)?, it seems that philosophers also are analysing games and one player games, i'm just wondering whether a philosophical analysis can help in the topic of business cycles and economic growth, if we study them by thought experiments (games and logic), maybe not for making claims about the actual world but for knowing the nature or essence of business cycles and economic growth.

[@ismireghal68]

Is there really no doubt about the fact, that science articulates real essences? Seems a bit constructed, since 500 years ago nobody thought of Water as H2O and even nowadays people don't. Furthermore pure H2O doesn't even statisfy common nominal essence for water (drinkable). Chemistry speaks a own language, that defines. Gold is just a special case where the pure form is wanted and therefore the chemical definition is useful for the common use.