Krist Novoselic Explains AI use IN UTERO

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0:00 - INTRO
1:06 - How AI Works
4:23 - Sound Comparison
4:48 - AI Voice Cloning
7:05 - Novoselic's Perspective on AI
8:54 - Outro

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[@bestgameralive1]

perverted to music

[@blowingfecesintoyourface]

that would be cool

[@AaronLakes-ge9su]

If it's his voice and done right go for it

[@Michael__Klein]

I’ve tried this with some tracks from in utero to separate them into stems and then use the drums and vocals to create a new song with new guitars and bass. idk why, it was fun to jam with Nirvana though after so long. Here’s one! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a33OqqufqrqUaMksi=k7WmzrV_TK7PWVkP

[@nigelpayne6993]

If it's not Kurt's voice no thanks

[@0mantra]

The old recording sounds so much better. There's an energy in that room you can hear.

[@RideTheSkies]

agree. it sounds too polished imo and it def lost the energy in the new AI tuning. I thought I was alone in this 😭

[@Jacobs_Lowe]

It loses all its character when it is perfected and it goes against grunge nirvana and Kurt belief

[@CamInABand]

The difference of the original audio from the concert and the new release is incredible, the new release sounds like it could be on a studio album! That’s how good it is

[@bleachicide]

Cause one’s studio ones not lol

[@bleachicide]

Soundboard I meant haha

[@vitalepitts]

@@bleachicide are you suggesting they just had those tracks and are lying about using ai to clean up the original audio?

[@audibleborealis8686]

He is saying they started with better audio straight from the soundboard (still in 1 track) compared to the old recording shown in this video, which was captured from the audience.

[@vitalepitts]

@@audibleborealis8686 I understand now, I started looking into this after the video and it seems weirdly cryptic in general.

[@astroporpoise7802]

AI to clean up live recordings or help clean up unfinished Kurt recordings? I'm all for it. Using AI to alter another singer's voice to sound like Kurt? Um no. Kurt speaks to me because of who he is and how raw his passion was for the music. Just sounding like him, and not having his thoughtful and cryptic lyrics, and not having the performance led by how he feels from moment to moment and how that affects the way he sings and plays....no no no. That would be incredibly shallow, the opposite of what his music is all about.

[@Chriskamstramusic]

Amen

[@ScottDerkez]

Agreed; but in line with the forst half of the comment, it would be teally incredible to hear the live recording of “talk to me” cleaned up

[@JohnnyFive-rn3xk]

I agree, audio clean up only. Remastering is widely used now. This is just evolution of a tool.

[@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer]

Yeah, cleaning up _existing_ live recordings is one thing and I think it'd be a _great_ thing. Really I'm fine with computer intelligence "cleaning up" and _EXISTING_ recorded material (although I feel *VERY* strongly that the minor re-mix and incredible re-master that Steve Albini did for the 20th anniversary of _In Utero,_ particularly the vinyl release which was cut on _THE_ finest vinyl cutting mater lathe in the world at Abbey Road, is *definitive* and cannot be improved upon and no attempt should be made to try. As any further "polishing" would result in scrubbing through and removing the material that makes up the work of art itself) but using A.I. to _generate_ what you _don't_ have - specifically the lyrics and actual vocals of Kurt Cobain to finish and/or produce new "Nirvana" songs is in my opinion a money grabbing fool's errand which goes against everything that makes Nirvana special to most people; the sense of credibility, humanity and the raw, visceral emotional response the band engenders in people. It's also another attack on the nature of _art itself._ Further taking it out of the hands of artists(humans) and giving an already computer addled, attention deficit and increasingly less "human" generation after the next more of a reason to get a taste for computer generated content and less motivation to develop a sense of and taste for actual, human created, _ART._ I also don't think it's unreasonable to say it goes against what little we know of Cobain from the time he was alive insofar as his artistic ethos/principals. As well as the band's. I mean, just look back what was it, a decade or so ago when Guitar Hero made the computer generated "Kurt Cobain" caricature unlock-able so you could use it to perform the songs of other bands and artists. Krist and Dave were incredulous and released a public statement saying they were "dismayed and very disappointed in the way a _facsimile_ (my own emphasis added) of Kurt Cobain is used in the game." Going on to clarify that they had no hand in the decision which was the sole property of the Cobain estate. Wrapping it up with "It's hard to watch an image of Kurt pantomiming other artists' music alongside cartoon characters. Kurt Cobain wrote songs that hold a lot of meaning to people all over the world. We feel he deserves better." Which then caused Courtney Love to do phony 180 degree turn and come out saying she felt the same way and that she had her lawyers on the case to sue Activision. Which of course - like everything else regarding her and Kurt Cobain - was absolute B.S. as she was the one who had given the okay to Activision who had the contracts to prove it. So if they felt _that_ strongly (and rightfully so in my opinion) about a computer generated "Kurt" caricature miming other people's songs, how in the *WORLD* could they now be okay with a disembodied, computer generated "Kurt Cobain" pantomiming the real Kurt Cobain??? It just seems to go against every bit of better sense and if they really do support such an endeavor than I'd say it's simply about a money grab and has nothing to do with preserving the legacy of their friend and their band.

[@devourtheignorant7193]

Perfect way to explain what I was thinking while watching this. 🤝

[@domichuyt6439]

I like the idea of using AI to improve the sound quality of older nirvana performances. Im unsure about making new content or finishing nirvana songs with it though. I dont feel theyd be as emotional, and itd feel kind of eerie for me, however i cant say i wouldnt like it because none of that exists yet, but i wouldnt mind hearing it out first

[@potato22258]

Yep, use it to clean up live tracks like "Talk to Me", but don't ever make AI music.

[@The_Real_Shrimp]

My dad sent me an article regarding Krist using AI for In Utero 30. Im very curious to see how it'll turn out. Happy 30th In Utero

[@guitarmeggedonit5232]

It ended when Kurt died. Let him RIP. You know you're right was a good last song.

[@orangejuiceaddict9405]

yeah but if krist is cool with it i am

[@AnthonyGrandenitti-tl8zv]

Ever hear the instrumental song that sounds almost futuristic and has this ki.ler riff that almost sounds underwater? It was incomplete but amazing with no vocals and almost gets industrial. Would have loved to have kurt make it until the 2000s bc he would have still been killing it no matter what direction musically he took. I mean with Dave we got to see what his own band would sound like...who knows if that would have happened the same or if kurt would've been supportive, however one thing was for sure Kurt and Nirvana made so many kids pick up instruments and it changed music forever

[@becheredward]

Music is an expression of feelings, ai doesn’t have feeling

[@TokyoXtreme]

AI isn’t making the music; audio engineers are using AI to separate audio into stems.

[@WRINKL99]

Cry about it

[@satanicsmoresmusic]

Feeling can be felt by the listener. AI can write a concierto and not feel it. So what. All feelings are really just biological "computer programming" to motivate systems to function with rewarding or negative reinforcement. Do you feel because of pain? Or do you feel pain because of the trigger programming for self preservation. -an AI wrote that btw, my chatgpt4 xturbo-16 model to be exact😅

[@RideTheSkies]

@@satanicsmoresmusic AI sticking up for AI 😂

[@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer]

As far as the actual album _In Utero_ I feel that is a closed book. The last, I believe 20th anniversary, deluxe edition release they did on vinyl is _the_ definitive version of the album and was done using the best available methods. With Steve Albini - the man who recorded the album - taking the master recording to Abbey Road Studios in London and doing a definitive mix and vinyl master of the album. Making the _minor_ changes the band wanted in the first place back in 1993 which from what I understand, essentially amounted to cleaning up and bringing forward the bass guitar and bringing some of the lead vocals closer to the "front" of the mix. The album was then cut into vinyl from that mix of the original master tapes using _THE_ finest vinyl cutting lathe in the world which resides there at Abbey Road. The result is nothing short of stunning, audiophile sonic quality of an album that was already widely regarded by fans, audio engineers and producers as shining example of some of the most natural, dynamic and beautiful rock recordings you can find. There is no improvement upon that particular deluxe edition version of the album that can be done by human _or_ artificial intelligence. I am convinced it is _definitive_ and done in the most proper and logical way that you'd have to imagine is in line with the original ethos and intent of the album, the songwriter and the band. With that said, when it comes to improving live concert recordings and even mixing and matching different individual performances/tracks/stems from different concerts and enhancing them using A.I. to create a modern and incredible piece of audio for an _In Utero_ era live concert experience to include in a 30th anniversary release, _THAT_ would be a worthwhile endeavor and something I would totally support and be quite excited about. Free from any conflicting emotions. Add something like that to a 30th anniversary edition of _In Utero_ - so long as the album itself is presented in what I consider it's definitive form from Albini's "Abbey Road" re-master - which includes the five other songs the band and Albini recorded at Pachyderm Studios during the _In Utero_ sessions and is included with some interesting ephemera like the stuff Novoselic mentioned (backstage passes etc) and I'm all in to _once again_ buy a copy of _In Utero._ What I _CANNOT_ abide would be trying to take any unfinished songs/demos (take for example the song _"Butterfly,"_ a proto-song recorded _without_ vocals during Nirvana's last recording session at Robert Lang Studios in January '94, the session where the band recorded "You Know You're Right" which was the only one with any vocals and songs like "Butterfly" only had the basic instrumental tracks done) and use A.I. to "learn" to approximate and mimic Cobain's vocal and lyrical style to "complete" the song. Where the A.I. - possibly with help from the band/producers - would write what it saw as "Cobain-esque" lyrics and a human singer would come in and lay down a "scratch" or "base" vocal which the A.I. would then overlay with their artificially generated "Kurt Cobain" voice. To me it wouldn't _just_ be out of touch with the unique credibility, humanity and visceral impact and aura that was and is the impact and legacy of Nirvana - it would be out of touch with (in as best a manner as we can humbly assume) the personality, tastes, ethos and artistic principals of who we recognized Kurt Cobain to be, as we "knew" him when he was alive. Sure, had he lived that _could have_ changed but he did not live and I think it's best to go with the information we have and not try to do more extrapolating than we already are insofar as "how he'd think/feel about A.I. generated art" now if he were alive at 56 years old. We need only to look back no further than about a decade ago at the reaction of Krist and Dave, of long time, dedicated Nirvana fans and the 180 degree bait and switch/public about face of Courtney Love when a computer generated caricature of "Kurt Cobain" from the video game "Guitar Hero" could be "unlocked" and used to perform the songs of other bands and artists. If they reacted like they did (and rightfully so in my opinion) to _that,_ then I just don't see how they could be on-board any future "Nirvana" music being made and/or completed using lyrics and vocals computer generated by artificial intelligence. I think there are other ways in which A.I. could be used in a much more broadly artistic manner to provide some Nirvana related art and content that don't go so far as making music for and _in place of_ Kurt Cobain. Letting A.I. pick through, assemble and clean up existing concert recordings; certainly. Using existing artwork, photographs, graphic designs etc to generate Nirvana related visual art for clothing, memorabilia or the cover and liner note artwork on any future "anniversary" or concert albums; sure. Using the existing studio recorded Nirvana material and splicing and rearranging it in a way to make some kind of interesting "audio collages" which could be used by the estate, band, fans, media etc. for use in documentaries, interviews, retrospectives and things like that; okay, I guess give it a shot?? To let A.I. generate a "What Would Kurt Cobain Do" version of Kurt Cobain for the purpose of releasing "new"(fake) Nirvana material; *NO WAY.* I'd want nothing to do with it and in my opinion, anyone around the band or who has a hand in the preservation of the legacy of Kurt Cobain and Nirvana who would okay something like that would be doing it for the express purpose of a money grab. I don't care what they tell us or themselves in the pursuit of such a fool's errand and outright attack on the viability of art itself and how art is a _human_ concept and activity that only _we as humans_ can subvert and destroy if we ourselves become so vapid, callow and disposable in our own humanity.

[@mauroienna9145]

Wow, you must be either really rich or not Have a job at all They have all that time. The writers long and well Written post! Kudos!

[@katyjuno420]

You know what, your long paragraph comment is refreshing to see. I like your take on it. I as well wouldn’t want to see the art made in the 90s ruined by AI in such a way

[@coreywiley3981]

My opinion is that it is fine to do this, but always keep the original performances and recordings available too.

[@-Pol-]

That's a very good point - There's a situation now with the StarWars movie where it is nigh on impossible to view the original un-CGI'd version; the version that actually won an Oscar specifically for its special effects! Likewise, with all these AI colourised pictures and films from the past, they have the unfortunate consequence in that it's hard to determine what is authentic colour footage and what is a made up alternative reality. I would struggle however with going back to my original cassette of un-remastered Robert Johnson recordings. The cleaned up versions they stream now are truly remarkable!

[@SmokeWithMeInCT]

It’s truly amazing how great the new live recordings sound

[@SoundscapesRock]

Totally agree!

[@MrJayArt]

It's probably just the soundboard recordings, nothing special.

[@SmokeWithMeInCT]

@@MrJayArt did you watch the video ?

[@manischroder6429]

Please do this with the live performance in Rennes 1994. I,ve listened to it several times and it is a wonderful show. Kurt,s voice sounds really amazing

[@xdef1ne]

I hope they use AI on Talk to me

[@ScottDerkez]

Same and the live version of you know you’re right

[@cyclopzzz]

i think using ai for the live performances to make them sound more clear is great but using it to make new content just seems disrespectful almost as if there turning kurt into a puppet but that’s just my opinion

[@BillAdams-fb3jm]

You forgot Sweet 75 -- Novoselic's first post-Nirvana band.

[@NiKOliDANBURSKi]

I'm totally down with cleaning up the preexisting material with AI. But there will never be any new material without Kurt Cobain: the lead singer and songwriter of Nirvana.

[@MisterMitic]

Pennyroyal Tea example sounds like AI used the studio version for comparison, or other isolated tracks. It's doing a great job but the discussion is whether the audio is extracted from the live recording or is it a fusion of different performances.

[@ryzo58]

If you have watched that actual live footage and heard the new mix, you’ll know it’s solely from this performance. Just purely based off the watching what they are doing at certain parts of the live song and then hearing it in the new mix like “oh, yup, that matches up” it’s pretty legit if you ask me

[@richardwhite4923]

I’m for using AI to improve the sound quality of previous recorded material. To use it to create and complete material is what I have a problem with.

[@welcometothepsyop3639]

Kurt would HATE HATE HATE this!!! The most appealing part of NIRVANA is their raw punk attitude, the mistakes, the fact it was going to fall apart at any second during a performance. They are using one of the greatest bands in history to promote and win over people with AI. People are so far gone, the ramifications of AI will destroy humanity one way or another.

[@michaelsuder486]

Were you friends with him? I think Krist knew him a little better than you

[@YeaMits]

greatest band in history is a stretch if anything kurt would’ve hated how much you’re essentially sucking him off

[@Zack-bl2gg]

It’s just audio isolating software, we’ve been using it forever

[@justintonation9726]

It’s so funny when people say what Kurt would think about something nearly 30 years after his death. People mature, life experience impacts their opinions. I can’t think of any artist or music fan that would want an AI to replace Kurt’s voice. To improve live recordings and other uses of AI could have intrigued him. PSA: This video was brought to your feed by AI.

[@ku______]

Dude shut up. It’s technology making it easy to extract a vocal stem.

[@tuneandsmash9346]

They should apply that technology to the live version of "You Know You're Right" and put it out as a B side

[@7danniii815]

imagine this ai in Lead Belly songs, great video, keep it up!!

[@SoundscapesRock]

Maybe one day!

[@Dannywhittle257]

I think if the Boxset containing alot of rare and demo songs (,with the lights out) ,were to be reworked using the AI it would make alot of the songs that were sometimes barely audible due to it being live performance or taped demo ,it would certainly make those songs cleaner ,crisper without alot of the background fuzz you get with home recordings

[@kj9093]

Live recordings typically suck, so anything that can improve live albums and make them enjoyable I am all for it!

[@Sadlander2]

Thank you for making this video! There's a video with a lot of views where Krist was talking about using AI to _enhance_ music and people were thinking that he was talking about using it to _create_ new songs. I left a comment explaining what you're explaining in this video but it's just a comment from a nobody, I don't think that many people saw it, so I'm glad there's a video made about it.

[@SoundscapesRock]

Thank you for your support! I believe that titles can often be misleading, leading some people to make assumptions about the content without actually watching or delving deeper.

[@SaiyanCherry]

In my opinion if there is old Demos of Kurt singing or Rough mixes of songs yes I would say for a AI to help clean them up & show the genius and true art Kurt made.

[@mattsheezy5469]

So Awesome!!

[@craigbruce2037]

just because you can doesnt always mean you should.anything after this release isnt about kurts legacy.its about money

[@Popyop45]

as long as they don't make new music with ai its fine, I think they should be able to redo unfished recordings (with real instruments of course) and remaster the old vocal tracks with ai, such as do re mi, love to see a studio version of that.

[@user-jy3br3wj1d]

This use of A.I. is smart. It’s isolating recorded elements. Not synthesizing new art.

[@Typical.Anomaly]

Go for it. Just call the project "Anavrin" or something else that isn't "Nirvana"

[@hsb5058]

my daughters name is ana vrin lee. i owe my success in music to nirvana so i figured i should at least honor them in someway

[@DudeMan-xs3db]

Eel Nirvana?

[@niaboctruk138]

​@@hsb5058oh that's rad. What is your success in music?

[@spdfrdm]

Can I ask what is the background song at the beginning of the video.. love the sounds on it. and the bass especially! Sounds like something I would write & play myself. I am a bass player btw.

[@SoundscapesRock]

It's flattering to hear this from a fellow bass player like yourself. The sound was actually something we created ourselves, for the purpose of opening our videos. We've had a few inquiries about a longer version, but we haven't made one yet. Your positive feedback has certainly inspired us to consider it! Thank you! ❤️🤘

[@spdfrdm]

@@SoundscapesRock Thank you very much. When you do & even if it is years from now, pls remember to paste a link in a comment here so that I get to listen to it :) And by any chance, if you happen to need services of a bass guitarist... I would be flattered if you hit me up, even though I am from Malta.... And to the world: MUSIC UNITES, FUCK THE WARS - World Governments should pay musicians to make a happier and more peaceful world instead of investing in futile and tragic warfare! PEACE!

[@lesliedaubert1411]

Krist also has songs that Kurt wrote but never got released.

[@HawaiianCrow]

WOW really? We need this out asap

[@satanicsmoresmusic]

Wwst do u mean

[@WarbladeX1]

They resurrected Kurt with riot earth album.. it is definitely a time machine. As far as a real person, bunked coffin makes his own music and sounds just like him.

[@khajask8113]

What is the vocals separate tool..?

[@Alex-zr1wt]

Well let they do that , it will be fun to hear. It can not spoil what has been done before.

[@Mihael-cs4ek]

Wow now we need a concert of Nirvana using AI, o man i am 42, grew up with grunge, i would pay anything to see that

[@patrickreichert1442]

they should never use AI to release “new” Nirana music. That would be an abomination!

[@dannycrotch5188]

There is no way of knowing if Kurt would have approved of this because he was rebellious at the time of his death, he may have mellowed if he was able to live?

[@patrickreichert1442]

@@dannycrotch5188 AI is an abomination period

[@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano]

Yeah. Like the instead could play Ouija and make Kurt sing from Hell lmL with x1000 times more pain...

[@dannycrotch5188]

@@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano That's a very negative and sour view my friend, get some love in your life, and there are plenty of natural recordings you could play without having to mess with AI falsehoods...

[@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano]

@@dannycrotch5188 , they could do so, but people does not believe in hell. Kurt's soul is in hell and he could still talk and maybe sing.

[@coyotus73]

Don’t create new material but using AI to clean something like « Nobody knows I’m new wave (live) » Go for it!

[@Simbolivar]

this gonna make me cry ;)

[@joshuamartinson8191]

I am reminded of "Back To The Future", when Doc Brown says the consequences of a paradox could destroy the entire universe

[@AaronLakes-ge9su]

I think it should be done if it's done right so if it is his voice do it Happy birthday in utero ❤😎🤘🤟🤘🤟👊🔥

[@nekrophiliak]

I think Butch Vig's reasoning would have worked again. Kurt didn't want to double track vocals, but he gave in when Butch told him John Lennon did it 😅

[@horrorlostplaces]

Niravana Fans just cant let go of kurt, there would make much money with new Nirvana Songs.

[@lovedeathdisco]

anyone know if it's the same tech used to remaster beatles revolver?

[@AsaMorris]

what AI tool was used?

[@grungeisdead8998]

Kurt's rolling in his heart shaped box right now

[@hustonmann452]

Wow, this was a good video! I have some thoughts on the subject. I dunno if I like the idea of using AI to “ imitate”Kurt’s Vocals. Don’t get me wrong; I wish with all my heart he was still alive and rockin! His voice, his guitar and their band hit my young heart and soul SO strongly! I beam with pride and loving nostalgia when I get to tell others that my first ever live music experience was seeing Nirvana with the Breeders and the Melvins! Shortly after, Kurt was gone. Nirvana -all of Nirvana- were the reason I picked up the guitar and discovered punk rock in all its imperfect glory! This ( I suppose) is why I am averse to AI messing with music that, in my opinion, was already perfect. However, I know that there are new generations of Nirvana fans that feel the same gut punch knowing that the band is no more. One can’t help but to think and wish for what could have been. So I dunno, I’m torn on the matter. It is ultimately up to the remaining members of the band and people should respect their decision. If they did do a reunion show or tour, who do you think would / should cover the challenge of singing? I love you Nirvana, always and forever !!❤😆🤘

[@BetterTheDevilYouKnow]

If I'm understanding this right, the idea is to take Kurt's voice off of recordings he made by himself (presumably with acoustic guitar?), use the acappella vocal and then Krist, Dave and Pat make music to complete the song? I think it could be interesting. Why not try it I say? Using AI suggests not using Kurt's voice but I don't think that is their intention here. The AI element is solely to create acappellas from existing recordings, not make an artificial version of Kurt's voice. I could be wrong.

[@CharlesDuranJr]

This would be perfect for sombody like me who has kurts spirit when playing but not his voice

[@vonbleak101]

I think AI for enhancing/polishing and old recording is fine... Its when you start to add AI generated parts thats it gets messy... I think if you are using AI to help create something uniquie and new then maybe there is a way, but i dont think its right for an AI to replace a dead band member or something...

[@jacealbine]

I'm down for ai remastering. I think that people putting new words in dead peoples mouths is fucking creepy as hell. I think that we should have a way of "stamping" ai produced products so we can keep the authentic history of pre AI intact. Ai is cool, but I agree that it has to be managed properly.

[@Viper505repiV1]

Okay but imagjne if they used the tech The Beatles used on some of Kurt's recordings to finish them? Like make an actual full band version of Do Re Mi or a "studio" version of Talk To Me and so on.

[@Nanahuatin]

I love the idea if Nirvana hopefully can pull it off then other artists, who are no longer with us will do this like Jimi Hendrix

[@mrturtle3083]

So, it's like making demo/live version sound like studio recording?

[@leonardfwuckle]

Get Dave Grohl and the Russian Kurt dude who sounds exactly like him. DGs voice matches up awesome tone wise on harmonies-Nevermind

[@joeontherun]

new material new singer with ai sounds good hope they do that and the first to do so

[@aaronsmith2054]

Where can I find this interview with Krist?

[@SoundscapesRock]

We mentioned that Krist's interview was conducted by NME.

[@aaronsmith2054]

Awesome thank you.

[@tawengski8380]

ai can only reproduce Kurt's voice not his soul in singing so its a no for unfinished Nirvana songs.

[@saxwastaken]

If you ever have to ask "would Kurt have liked AI being used for this?" Just answer with "John Lenon did it too" (this is a joke of course before anyone answers seriously)

[@traplord1829]

song at the beginning name the instrumental

[@SoundscapesRock]

The sound was actually something we created ourselves, for the purpose of opening our videos. Thank you! ❤️🤘

[@munavir4946]

Its a good idea.👍

[@AlexCitroen-zt8xv]

..the thing is, a producer uses the same technology to improve sound and quality. AI now is no different. The idea sounds great because there's a ton of live shows by Nirvana that the sound quality was not the best..now thanks to AI we can hear loud and clear Kurt's voice and improve the quality of the sound. If the Bestles did it? Then why not Nirvana? There's a tons of Nirvana genes unheard and now can be done. I'm sure Kurt May had hesitated at first but ultimately approve of AI. I could be wrong but we have to keep up with the times and technology improvements.

[@joshuamartinson8191]

the repercussions of this could be disastrous beyond comprehension

[@krisfrederick5001]

Kurt was completely against artificial anything. He refused to even use a drum machine and pounded on a suit case instead to "keep his music pure" and would likely hate this concept. But, If it serves the existing songs with integrity...by all means. Serve the Servants. P.S. Dave, Pat and Krist do still get together and play Nirvana songs to this very day, privately

[@user-hk9ew3gy5y]

These are the same guys that release The Live At Reading show with fake crowd noise.

[@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano]

Really? Hahahahahaha. That's funny, mediocre band...

[@AnthonyGrandenitti-tl8zv]

Anyone who likes Nirvana listen to odd for you by the black death doctors! Krist Dave I need a band...you need a singer songwriter plus I have most of Kurt's tell tale identifiable gear su h as the famous univox high flier guitars , all the same pedals and amps he played...I was the BIGGEST Nirvana fan and would have never pi ked up drumsticks or a guitar if it weren't for Nirvana. Dave had the best fills attack etc live, krist is the underatted glue and kurt was nothing short of amazing. Guys let's jam I'll come to Seattle. Listen to my music

[@kevinwilde3112]

It's interesting but it destroys the real background atmosphere. Bootlegs have an in the moment authenticity that these AI remasters lack

[@iimdiego]

I say just do it for enhancing old live audio. don’t touch unfinished work. they didn’t finish it for a reason besides kurts death. As for any other bands unfinished work when an artist doesn’t die. You must finish what You started. Don’t let a Ai tamper with that. Just release the unfinished work.

[@HiAxl]

I’ve already recorded a new nirvana song 😉

[@traplord1829]

song at 7:44 in the backround

[@jesterjigs9914]

It's not a.i realy .. makes it sound like there putting in elements that didn't exist before.. it's a reamix.

[@ThePuffGD]

Im usually not in favor of AI generated content, but if AI treatment is the only possible way to hear some new Nirvana stuff, I dont think I mind

[@jen_wren_x]

🎉OMFG THE FUTURE OF MUSIC WITH AI🎉🎸 NEXT THEYLL BE DOING A LIVE SHOW WITH A HOLOGRAPHIC KURT, JUST LIKE TUPAC..🎸🌟

[@SoundscapesRock]

that would be amazing!

[@RamtroStudios]

this is a dishonest comparison, the concerts being released for the In Utero 30th are NOT cleaned up audience recordings, but instead stereo soundboard mixes taken directly from the mixing board. it's the same show, but not the same recorder/tape. yes AI was indeed used, but it was used to separate the individual instruments in the soundboard tapes as i guess the original multitracks were not available. it was not used to clean up background noise.

[@MrJayArt]

Yep I noticed that too this video is bs

[@bvabildtrup]

I think there's worlds of difference to using AI to remove something, like making demixes of songs, and using AI to generate stuff, like making a voice clone or making deepfakes and stuff like that. The latter almost always seems very creepy and disrespectful imo.

[@reethkitchards]

Money Money Money

[@slavicindo5763]

If you have to use another singer then make it into Kurt cobain using AI, the only man I'd really allow to do it would be no other than Dave Grohl. He sings in a lot of Nirvana songs too. If not make it sound like Kurt, have Dave sing it. They won't perform live anyways so drums and vocals can be done seperately.

[@pappyprimetime7510]

On todays fancy sound systems? I contend that we listen today on systems that were 3% of the quality we used to listen on in the 90s

[@loobarris]

god what a fucking thumbnail

[@MrJayArt]

No offense but that was just the soundboard recording remastered.... Not an AI reconstruction. The song literally has dual recorded left and right guitar tracks...

[@maxx6095]

You see krist talking but never hear what he says

[@tigbeast5257]

Kurt would hate todays world for sure

[@BrentMarley-zv5it]

100%

[@Jay_Cannon]

8:58 cleaning up ole concerts I think is great, using a fake AI voice to finish unfinished projects I think is phony and unauthentic. I agree with Krist. Maybe a song or two but that’s it.

[@GibberishDraw]

AI, is one of the worst things too happen too all art froms at the end of the day it's their choice but I'll lose a lot of respect for the surviving members if they go through with this

[@weshouldntbefriends]

Is this tool consumer level?

[@profitnadeem]

Kurt would not approve of this.

[@nigelgrim]

How would you know exactly? People change after 30 years.

[@profitnadeem]

@@nigelgrim i mean he hated everything mainstream and he was about human expressiveness. i don't think ai would be histhing but who knows, no body knows

[@ku______]

Kurt’s not here though, so it doesn’t really matter. Don’t listen if it pisses you off.

[@profitnadeem]

@@ku______ you’re right the ai thing is trash

[@ku______]

@profitnadeem like anything technological , it's a tool - used correctly and with integrity with not only Kurt, but the bands spirit in mind, as a whole we could potentially be hearing some great recordings. As far as I'm aware, Steve Albini will mixing everything down. If it doesn't work we won't hear it.

[@joeyarnold9372]

Why fuck with thes song theyvare perfect how they are

[@VEPRIKOT]

NAIRVANA

[@drpacman9996]

Just like all the film reboots, it seems nothing original is coming along anymore. Why is that?

[@bciecko1]

Im fool woth thr AI enhanced recordings. Rhr originals do sound like shit on modern systems or at any volume. In my opinion i feel rhr true nirvana fans, not rhr casual kisteners, and esoecially thr ones that were geowing uo in rhr 90's during all of this would love to hear unfinished tracks. Kuet was talking with Stipe of REM on a differnet direction, an acoustic album, what would rhatve been like!? We have You Know Your Right as a glimpse of new Nirvana and it was 10 years agead if its time. When it was finally released it fit right into the mix of what was being created. As stated, Kurt was integral, unmatched and as such, only AI that is made to authentically replicate a soecofic person would be able to give us the closest guess into finished Nirvana peojects. Especiwllynwoth feedback and input from Krist and Dave and Pat.

[@stephencholette947]

The samples given sound so fake, I'm buying an original copy of the album, people will mutiny against this crap.

[@TedDiabetes]

Agreed. It's fucking gross.

[@afrolund80]

Kurt refused the use of a drum machine while recording Demos on his aunts 8 track. Record producers famously had to twist Kurt's arm to get him to layer his vocals. Something tells me he wouldn't want an AI computer program writing songs and pretending to be him.

[@NoButIGotCheezWhiz]

Did you watch the video?

[@afrolund80]

@@NoButIGotCheezWhiz Yes.

[@afrolund80]

@@NoButIGotCheezWhiz They talk about cleaning up live audio tracks. Which I think is fine. But they also talk about using AI as the next best option for getting Kurt Cobains writing style to come up with new songs. I don't think there's anything anyone could say that would make me believe that Kurt would be okay with that. A guy that told his aunt that he wants his music to pure and to not be cheapened by the use of a drum machine. On his home made demo tape!

[@SITS101]

I have to agree with the OP. I think Kurt would be very adverse to new material being created via AI. Remember the "live" sound the band was looking for with the original In Utero record. They went with Steve Albini specifically for it. I have to trust Krist's and Dave's opinion on the cleanup of existing material if Kurt would be ok with it. I don't see money being a motivating factor for either of them. If money was, they would have toured a long time ago. I would go see them in a heartbeat.

[@NoButIGotCheezWhiz]

I misunderstood the meaning behind your comment. I thought you were implying that was something Nirvana was planning on doing, not the general concept of making new things with AI. I totally agree with you in that regard.

[@user-rh6vp1re7g]

Si estuviera en vida Kurt cobain odiaria todo esto .

[@sarahmadison7126]

They want to make $ thats it. They dont care about Kurt. I wish he was not murdered Kurt would be here with us I am mot interested about Foo

[@mrNobody100]

AI should be kept to a minimum. boosting a live recording to balance out frequencies is cool and all, but if it changes the performance in any way, it would ruin it and is no longer representing what each member played and is no longer a live recording (it's as bad as bands going into a studio and redoing takes of an instrument for a live album, and still passing it off as a live album....ahem blink 182 ahem...)

[@EdSki1970]

NO

[@davypelletier]

Improving the show audio is great. Making new Nirvana songs is not.

[@MacKay1812]

Comparing the video footage sound here with the new release is not correct. You need to compare the new release to the original soundboard recording from which it was taken from, not the amateur video recording.

[@OtavioFesoares]

People confusing generative AI with machine learning are either misinformed or just plain dumb. They’re not generating anything with the AI they’re using. They’re just separating the tracks out of a single board recording, in order to mix it properly.

[@STRANGEANATOMYBAND]

Mixing live material is fine, but for the love of god, don’t rape Kurt’s ghost by selling AI generated “new music.” If they want to finish songs by taking demos and cleaning up Kurt’s vocal audio and recording new track with Chris playing bass, Dave playing drums, and maybe Pat Smear playing guitar, I could probably even get behind that. You want to gather together 12 of the best previously released demos and live tracks and call it a final album? I’d probably be into that if you gave it a thoughtful, respectful, and artistically authentic treatment. (I say previously released because I’d only trust things that are already out there on compilations like “With the Lights Out” and “Montage of Heck.”) But it’s all so unnecessary and cheesy. What I will NOT support, is anybody writing new songs or performing new vocals and then having a computer attempt to morph it into Kurt’s voice. Not only will I be able to spot the difference, but I do not support literally putting words and melodies into a dead artist’s mouth, least of all Kurt Cobain’s. He’d be disgusted by the very idea. And once you open the door to that with unfinished songs, you’ve given away control to continually generate new music from scratch and dress it up in a robotic imitation of his voice. No. That is so far from what Nirvana stood for I can’t get behind it at all.