Bigger Tires (33’s to 40’s) on Dana44 axles - Jeep Wrangler Eco Diesel Build Update

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Did you catch the true tire size measurement of the Cooper Stt Pros in the video? Check out Northridge4x4 KZbin channel for more tutorials: youtube.com/@northridgenation

[@brohammer]

looks like about 39.5?

[@mikepierson3097]

Yep… no tire is 100% true size but STT Pros and Nittos are the closest.

[@AustinH7]

@@mikepierson3097my 35 inch copper stt pros were 33.5. Almost every tire is 2 inches smaller than listed on the sidewall. No brand “runs bigger”

[@mikepierson3097]

@@AustinH7learn to read… I said they were the closest to true size. Lol. And math… 35 - 33.5 is 1.5 inches. 😅

[@danb8474]

I want these wheels for my JK 😀

[@artm6723]

I love this! But we all know modding is such a rabbit hole! That being said I'm so glad you're taking us along for the ride! I'm sure this is going to be awesome!

[@southwestoffroad]

This looks really good. I'm sold on getting 44"s vs tons. I've seen plenty of people with the right 44 setup and 40's that are running just fine.

[@Handwerkers]

Awesome video as always @KrokemOutdoors ! That was my sarge green JL on the lift at the beginning of the video! Very happy with the build and Northridge's work! 😀

[@SpawnOfOden]

Always love your information in these videos, Ed!! You keep it real, like explaining the cons to upgrading to the higher tire size, and you do the numbers work which is huge (MPG, RPM's etc). Your content is top freaking tier brother!

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Thanks Thor!

[@robormiston2841]

I grew up in Silverdale where Northridge is. I used to ride up the ditch in front of his shop befor it was there 30 years ago on my dirt bike.

[@TheOneWhiteST]

Love to see this! I went with a 3.5" lift and moving to 37s" later this year. Still getting decent MPGs believe it or not Lol!

[@kayloradventure]

37's are a good sweet spot. My JL 2.0L turbo is getting over 18mpg in mixed daily driving.

[@TrailTime.]

I’ve ran the same wheel with 39” Km3’s and 5.13’s in 44’s for years now. Nate was right, just remember you have big tires and you’ll be good.

[@Adrian-rn1ym]

Is yours a gasser or diesel ?

[@robc5082]

Hell I ran 44" Boggers on D44's w/Chromo shafts. D-shaft u-joints were my fusible link.

[@ghernandez6457]

😬😬🫡

[@betzaidavazquez5579]

🎉🎉Congratulations Edward !! Dusty is looking great, Cant wait to see you take him out and about. Thanks for sharing and all for all the info. 😊👊

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Thanks Betzaida, as always!

[@phillipcraddock8248]

The humans that do this kind of work are AMAZEING,

[@jthor8373]

40s really are the new 33s especially on the JL and JT. Very little work needed to fit those and that's what I love about it.

[@lol123321123321]

40s are the new 35s. 25 years ago lifting and modifying your rig to fit 35s on a 15" rim was HUGE. Now a days you can buy a vehicle off the dealership floor with factory 37s.

[@iamnoone5248]

On my old JK, I had 40s and stock axles. Truss and guss. Stock axle shafts and 5.13 gears. Been through Rubicon and Fordyce. It's all about the driver. Don't hop that's all. That's how sht breaks. Just crawl slowly and you'll b fine

[@jacobboughton506]

You went really deep on the gears, for the diesel. In the JL/JT Eco Diesel Jeep pages the general consensus is 38-40’s is 4:56 and 4:88 for more of a trail only side. Speaking of 40’s only on the Eco’s 4:10 get 20mpg 4.56 get ~23mpg 4:88 18-20 5:17 16-17 Sweet spot for most have been 4:56. I’m on 38’s still rolling 3:73’s and on average get 18.5-20mpg. I would love to regear but not for awhile. Still have loads of torque and I do tow. I’m pushing 68k miles on our 21. Banks power was a nice power bump but for about same price GED has emission complaint tune that been getting great reviews as well. Now EOC across the north border has full on weight loss and seem to be the best on everything from a spectator’s perspective. Looks great.

[@fish0n2]

Looks like a very capable Jeep now, looking forward to some cool rock crawling videos keep up the good work

[@dizi17]

video and story telling skilz are levelling up lately, good on you!

[@scotthrncirik9091]

Looking great! Can’t wait to get back out your way and hit some more difficult trails! Keep it up!

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Let’s go!

[@mikehunt-ew3pm]

I ran rock crawler 10 years ago... great suspension great flex, might even need limit straps or the coils will come loose

[@davidharris1767]

Nice build. Mod in stages, Take it easy on the skinny pedal. Great channel.

[@MuddyBeards4X4]

Looks awesome! I see we both have the stt pros now. Looking forward to hitting the trail once I get the S10 done🤟🏻

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Same, it’s been a while!

[@MeanOneMeanOne]

Thanks for sharing and congrats! Beautiful build Sir! You're officially "big time" now brother. This comment will probably be received negatively but don't forget about the little guys......it's what made your channel great.

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Absolutely brother.👊

[@MeanOneMeanOne]

@@KrokemOutdoors I used to watch LLOD and some of his builds were way outside of the "average dude's" budget....... Please don't forget us little guys brother 🙏 Much Love!

[@GadsdenJL]

Good stuff! At least wear the balljoints out first, but you should swap them aluminum knuckles. I run 37 sst pros on my 2djl. They do great in deep snow, but its hell driving on snow-covered roads that others have driven. It wants to drag you into deep snow or ruts pretty bad. Its even worse in my shorter wheelbase. Not the tires fault, just the way it goes with big wide tires in the snow. I'll be replacing the sst with another set of sst, outstanding tire. Cool video, thanks for sharing!

[@AndrewTurner251]

That is super cool, looking forward to see how it does on the trail.

[@OFFTHEGRIND]

REALLY excited to see a Tahuya run with you guys! One of my favorite places ever!

[@1000186ful]

I run cooper evolution 35" on my 79 jeep j10 with 6inch soa lift

[@darrensaunders4635]

I have a bent shift on my gladiator with just 37s and I baby this thing on technical trails. Need chromoly shafts for sure. I just have to put mine in now that they've arrived.

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Yes, put those babies in and enjoy the trails 🙌

[@keithelder]

Love the color choices you made.

[@Taz_and_Roami]

Watching your videos for the first time and great video I'm in washington as well hope to see you on the trail. I have 2 jeeps 1 on 40's an my wifes on 37's.

[@thejohnlin]

Boy… good luck to you. If you going this deep, may consider DIY. That looks like a ton of money!

[@trimha1]

What an upgrade!!! That’s awesome!!

[@flyfisher530]

Awesome video Ed, love the 40's Dusty is rocking now.....time for an Epic adventure again!!!

[@KrokemOutdoors]

I’m looking forward to it! 🤝

[@bigbrownmab189]

Can't wait for the next video, keep on rockin stay blessed !

[@Reaper-ef9ht]

Hell yeah brother the Jeep looks sick I’ve been running 40” STT’s on my F350 last couple years they are the best tires I’ve ever ran think you will love them!

[@t.o.f.t.s.]

Time to plan a trip through the Rubicon.😃😃

[@TheRightLine]

Just found you on Northridge 4x4, Tim is pretty cool. You're jeep looks great!!

[@KrokemOutdoors]

thank you!

[@TACTICALNOMAD]

@Edward Shin, Great dive into the mods you're doing! 👍🏼👊🏼Personally, I would truss any 5-lug axle running 40s, especially with such aggressive tires like Cooper's. Axle wrap and excessive torsion is a very real thing with all of that dynamic weight turning on such a small axle shaft. Maybe ask Nate @Dirt Lifestyle to help you do that?! And with 1-ton axles and 40" tires you won't lose ground clearance. I had Mickey Thompson 40" tires on my '87 Bronco w/1-ton F-350 axles back in the day and I never had a ground clearance issue, and only a one time minor issue with being high-centered down a deeply rutted mud trail. I ran 37" STT Pros on my '99 F-350. They are a GREAT tire. They are the only tire I'd run over BFGs and Wildpeaks, but nowadays they are cost prohibitive compared to BFG & Wildpeaks.

[@hoss6048]

Dang you are getting Rubicon ready for sure.

[@danielbadiang3817]

Wow …Jeep looks Killer 🤙🏾and the shop guys are very cool and informative for the build can’t wait too see it in action…Aloha 🤙🏾

[@RolandoNispiros]

Looking forward to your feedback on the new setup.

[@Jan-pw4po]

Great looking jeep with those mods

[@workinghands1805]

Probably a weird question. But do you have a video of your ink? I see what looks to be a landscape on your left forearm. 👍🏼

[@BentNotBroken1970]

Dusty looks great! Looking forward to seeing how everything performs over time. My goal in two years is for a similar setup on a diesel Gladiator so this is going to be fun to watch.

[@markengle2199]

This into song has me like “Blame it on my ADD. SAIL!”

[@averyprolawncare5273]

Dude that looks awesome… nice work

[@jwillpin1599]

Would love to hear how the stock steering is handling the 40s,

[@KrokemOutdoors]

It’s not bad, but could be better

[@kennethvalentine946]

looks awesome! making me want to go bigger.

[@goryeooverland4159]

Awesome setup Edward. It would be cool to run some trails together with our Goryeo Group.

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Hey, where are you based out of?

[@goryeooverland4159]

@@KrokemOutdoors Southern Cali and Reno.

[@GoXplr]

100% Beast Mode !!

[@LGoody9273]

Waiting for my 23 JLUR to be delivered, stock 33's will be fine. Damn you !! haha

[@ssilva9510]

I wish some one would do a panic stop comparison with 40s compared to 33s

[@angushoover8670]

The old saying comes to mind... Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... Time will tell... Good luck.

[@reptilewizz]

I have a similar setup 40 inch cooper pros with 4 link 4.5inch teraflex lift kit. just need to cut my rear ponch seems more. And I’ll be good to go! stock Dana 44s lmaoooo im scared so I take it easy! need to truss them asap!!!

[@underscr0e]

I snapped my dana60 axles a few times with 40” tires the locker was probably to blame though.

[@Rob.on.a.carphone]

My Coopers replaced all of my Maxxis tires!

[@greygooseadventures5212]

That is quite the statement!

[@saradtomlinson764]

Awesome job on this video. Subscribed.

[@WolfOverland]

🤩 super jealous!!! Rock crawler status now!!!! Love it. Congratulations bro!!!

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Thanks man!

[@FieldWorxoverlandadventures]

You made the right choice with Rockrawler suspension, I feel their suspension is the best on the market for jeeps, I’ve owned 14 jeeps and always used rock crawler, just received my new 2023 392 and my parts came in last week from Rockrawler 4 1/2 inch lift very similar to yours, I have a set of 37 inch tires and a set of BFG 39 1350s I’m going to test both out and see what I like best, I like the way you have set up your jeep you’ve used good quality components, and you should have good luck with those tires, i’m considering those same wheels I’m just concerned about the legality of running bead locks here in Northern California on the road, I would think if an officer knows it’s a beedlock and pulls you over and you’re out of town what would happen? Could they stop you from driving? did you install flip kit for your drag link? thanks for the video!!! you do a good job with these!!👍

[@galfridusarturus6403]

Beast!

[@DaLife888]

Love the build… BTW, what brand roof rack you have in the JL. Thanks.

[@jonathanpaulcookemusic]

Great video. Very interesting and informative.

[@stevebratten6592]

The info about letting joints flex will be very helpful building out my classic Ford Ranger

[@davidharris1767]

Awesome build and content !

[@jeffmnacra5336]

What was the bill for the full modification? Looks amazing..

[@TrailNewbie]

Love it! Man, Dusty is coming together - can’t wait to see it in person in late March! 👊🏼

[@KrokemOutdoors]

I’m stoked for it! 👊

[@jinoh7418]

I'm considering 40s on my ecodiesel, currently on 37s with metalcloak 3.5".

[@KrokemOutdoors]

get those chromoly axles and re-gear if you can

[@jinoh7418]

@KrokemOutdoors you don't think trussing the axles and Cs would help? I figure 4.56 would be the closest gear ratio for 40s.

[@khakhashisam3761]

Dusty is a monster!

[@Mike_E_44]

How do those 40s do with the stock steering? Will you be adding hydro assist? Really nice rig you have there!!

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Some steering improvement modifications are on the list. For now, on easygoing trails it’s fine

[@kyletitus205]

Looking for insight on a jku with a 3in terraflex and 4.56 Yukon gears going from 35s to 37s. I know the difference isn't much but want to inquire about mpg and if it's safe with the stock axels.

[@stevefoster61]

Dude... so good!

[@bayareapackleader]

Will you be doing a video on cost break down?

[@TheRamon0007]

GREAT VIDEO WHEN YOU GO TO TAHUYA YOU LET ME KNOW...

[@noepascual3610]

Awesome content! Thanks for sharing. Did you lose turning radius after adding the tires? I tried going for 38s with stock axles and couldn’t do a full turn without rubbing the frame even with spacers on.

[@vincentmamotos9937]

did you get a flipped drag link? 4.5 lift and you're getting into that territory

[@dudleybaggerman9574]

Boy's listenup , back in the early 80s i had 44in. Monster Mudders from Dick Cepek on my 72 ford highboy with a closed nuckle 44 HD with Stock axles and a true trac in front ! I was in the Firewood buisness and only 1 time i broke a long side front axle with a Cord of Oak loaded on , and i made the mistake of backing up a hill due to easy loading of wood ! I had to backup about ten feet to turn around and POP !! Other than that The Rubicon trail or 3ft of snow Never bothered the 44 , But i wasn't hamming the gas peddle all the time and that makes a huge difference

[@mikes.9755]

Thanks gramps. The problem is the new Jeep Dana 44s are not the old schools 44. The only similarity is the name.

[@dudleybaggerman9574]

@@mikes.9755 very Disrespectful words calling me Gramps and i think ur Wrong , these new 44 should be in ur own Words better than the old ones !! So Smart mouth young Punk do ur home work

[@mikes.9755]

@@dudleybaggerman9574 lighten up Francis. It’s called a joke when your first comment on the video starts with “ Boys listen up”. 😂😂😂. Secondly you have no idea how much home work I’ve done and third you have no idea how young I am. But you are Ina roll and also struggled with reading comprehension thinking “ in my words” I sad the current D44 offered even compare to the old school D44s. When I was a kid I was running Waggoner Dana 44s and Scout Dana 44s so put that in your old man pipe Gramps. 😉

[@dudleybaggerman9574]

@@mikes.9755 maybe i should have started out Stupid person , that would have fit u better ,

[@dudleybaggerman9574]

@@mikes.9755 boy u are Disrespectful

[@Overland_ATL]

It looks so Good! Tim can we stuff 40’s on my Rebel 🤣

[@timlund1709]

Yes, we can..... 😉

[@redhillsoverland]

Such a wicked setup! Looking forward to seeing the shakedown run!

[@bradcallander7789]

Looks great

[@Mike-n-Murf]

What bumpers are you running?

[@pauljohnson7486]

what size rims and brand and model of the wheel?

[@강성일-s7e]

미국에는 엄청난차들이 많네요 잘보고가요

[@dhrracer]

What are you going to do when you rip off the track bar and link mount brackets?

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Fixing them would be on the top of the list

[@DarrylCox-m6x]

How do you like the 5.13s with the ecodiesel and 40s? Im stuck between 4.88 and 5.13

[@camaroboi13]

I think that’s too deep honestly. I’m on 37s with stock 3.73s, I really wanted to go 40s but didn’t see this video in time lol. Had I gone 40s, I would have stuck with 4.56s. I also put 24k miles a year on mine though and lots of highway miles.

[@UnloadedRex]

17!?! My Tacoma is only on 32s w/ a 3 inch lift and steel bumpers and with winter blend I’m all the way down to 15.3 😅

[@jim9win]

Right on looks good did it right 👍💰💵

[@ken-ul7kf]

Hey buddy I have a 97 Dodge ram 1500,2wd with a Dana 44,my question is can I run 38 inch tires on them ,it's my daily driver??

[@brianegeberg8497]

Sure can but when you forget that "nice lite driving" those little 44's will break if not the tiny pinion when you regear. I would recommend 60s.......

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Will find out and report back

[@brianegeberg8497]

@@KrokemOutdoors You certainly will I'm sure! Keep the rubber side down! Had 5 Jeeps under my belt over the years, now run a 3/4 ton QC 4 WD diesel for my camp rig.. sturdy and simple.

[@KrokemOutdoors]

@@brianegeberg8497 no guarantees

[@vincentmamotos9937]

Small pinion police. I've talked to many shop owners and engineers. The ring and pinion sizes on this m210/m220 advantek are so advanced and so much beefier than when the whole "breaking pinions" started happening around the JK's lifespan. Theyve regeard thousands of these new advantek axles and put 40s.Theyve yet to see ring and pinion break. the ring and pinion IS NOT tiny on these 3rd gen dana 44s.

[@santacruzoverlander]

Yes what he said. Beast Mode.

[@markperritte]

What did you do on your drive shafts

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Rubicon drive shafts for the time being, but an upgrade is on the horizon once budget allows

[@pitpit860]

What your grandfather tells you about IWo Jima or Pearl Harbour???

[@LOVE-62]

How does it steer? Most guys I know with 40’s have hydro steering now.

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Steering can be improved!

[@roncua6900]

😮 did you upgrade the driveshaft ? And would it be your next mod ?

[@KrokemOutdoors]

Not yet, but it is high on the list 👍

[@soledadmonstabreh]

Would you need to upgrade brakes due to that rotational mass? Compared to the stock brakes on stock tires/35s/37s.

[@vincentmamotos9937]

you really should. and drive shaft

[@jeffreid3341]

I've got the same set up as this guy on my 2022. It stops great on 40s

[@GunJunky50AE]

I was told flat diff covers are bad for gear fluid circulation is that true?

[@Jeff-gb1nq]

Hey Edward what are you going to do with your old wheels?

[@KrokemOutdoors]

They have been sold

[@godsbackcountryoverland]

Nice Jeep Edward should work out well for you. God Bless

[@alexmartinez-rg7ht]

What rim’s are those

[@billj503]

COST ? Stock to 40s all in minus vehicle?

[@sierramantrvlnus]

Yay!

[@JuanPerez-vt2ti]

Whats the cost on this set up?