Rich people are leaving California taking their tax revenue with them

[@MrGhosthacked]

You can't keep taxing people so heavily and outright failing to tackle homelessness, crime, and business issues.

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

Too much parasitism ultimately will kill the host.

[@SteveinSanFrancisco]

The thing is the homeless people don't affect the rich areas.... but keep crying about it

[@mbr8167]

They're not failing with the homeless problem, people in charge of it are making 250k a year. Would you genuinely fix a problem that makes you 250k a year, or just.. give food once in awhile to tide people over?

[@airbender9593]

They can… no accountability… who cares…

[@jerrelchris16]

Rich people aren’t getting taxed heavy and that’s the issue? LoL

[@mbr8167]

This reminds me of that college woman who came on the news trying to say we should tax the 1% higher. When faced with "Well, what if they bail and now you get no money?" to which she replied "Well... there'll always be a top 1%." Well here you go.

[@Kahless_the_Unforgettable]

Indeed. But then your pool gets smaller and smaller until eventually, that dummy IS the 1%!!!

[@LeeeroyJenkins]

That statement is why the communists were always poor. The rich people leave or get killed off and their assets are mismanaged.

[@Realogn]

There’s a similar one where some of the people wanted to tax the top 20% of earners at a higher percentage then come to find out they’re in the top 20%

[@MakerInMotion]

Newsom has even proposed an extra tax on people who leave.

[@sew_gal7340]

Growing up my parents were on welfare and SSI and i had no idea that someone else had to pay for that in order for me to get a good education and decently clean clothes. Now that i have "made it" i dont complain about paying taxes because i know it might impact someone else who is in the same position i was in. I hate taxes but i am humbled by the good graces to be able to live in America, and to be given a shot at being successful

[@KateWoodehouse]

This happened in France too. They jacked up taxes on the 'super rich', and these people bought homes in other countries and moved. France ended up with less tax revenues than if they'd left the rates alone. They had to lower taxes again.

[@davidcox3076]

That's what people never understand. The "super rich" have plenty of choices and lots of mobility. It is extremely easy for them to pack up and leave in the face of oppressive taxation.

[@amelmatt5641]

Unfortunately the leftie wing nuts just don’t understand that concept

[@stanr8946]

@@davidcox3076 Too many people act emotionally on their resentment for others vs. rationally on what would eventually be in their own self interest, They would rather spend their time and energy tearing others down than build themselves up.

[@mattm7798]

It really is cutting off your nose to spite your face. In the short term, promising "free" stuff will get you elected...until the bill come due, then you eventually either have to reverse that or get voted out. Funny enough, this is why socialism cannot support free elections...because they would get voted out.

[@The_Ballo]

Now they're rioting because the state has no money for pensions

[@r1l56me]

I left California eight years ago, I have absolutely no regrets.

[@mbarrett3146]

My husband, our boys, & I left CA 2 1/2 years ago. I thank God everyday for getting us out of there. We went from paying almost 2k a month rent on a 2 bedroom apartment to less than $1,200 for a mortgage on our 1st house.

[@mbarrett3146]

@mkim1132 Idaho 🌲❤️😊

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

I left in '99. It was bad enough then. Seeing what Hellifornia is like now, I can't understand why anyone stays.

[@shelleyobrien8180]

I left 19 years ago because I saw what was coming. CA is no longer recognizable

[@tomokovlog8567]

Then why you still talking about it 8 years later!!!

[@gidzmobug2323]

Now CA is considering an unconstitutional "exit tax". The state believes themselves entitled to your income for ten years after you leave.

[@The_Ballo]

Ah, the Chuck Schumer solution

[@smarticus6384]

Imagine the litigation that will be involved in enforcing such an unconstitutional demand. Nobody, and I mean nobody, will hand over anything without lengthy and costly litigation. California prosecutors will have no time left to prosecute everyday crimes.

[@PaulFinestone]

The Supreme Court ruled on this over 100 years ago and it is an illegal tax that has already been determined.

[@johnedd9702]

Insane

[@mplewp]

They cant enforce that 😂

[@bkwil6078]

I work for a logistics company in California and over the last 10 years I can't even begin to tell you the amount of people we've relocated out of this state...... 99% of them complaining about liberal political climate across the board

[@louisliu5638]

Logistics is relocating for all kinds of tax reasons (Even in Canada) and (EVEN IN CANADA) THE homeless go where the support systems are. They obviously (for you) need a "kinder, gentler machine gun hand). and THE LOGISTICS industry pays crap and likes non-union or right-to-work states for exactly that reason. It's no so "simple" a concept. Many factors have been building for decades.

[@wojciechsobiesiak]

@@louisliu5638 And after reach people go homeless people and of course the police to "serve and protect".

[@BobSmith-kd4oc]

I have to question as to whether your statement is true or not. Just because you made the statement doesn't mean you're not lying

[@brianwilson6403]

​@@BobSmith-kd4oc After reading more of the comments on here, I'd say he's 100% Correct!!!

[@dukefurst5741]

Yet all the media claims the states they move to are turning blue because of it. 🙄 Yeah right. We know they’re gaslighting us to cover for election fraud.

[@VCA72]

This is the beginning of the economic "death spiral". It's not so much the millionaires and billionaires leaving, it's when the upper middle class earners are leaving, which they are. Those that make between 100K-250K are now leaving. They're taking their tax revenue with them. California is so desperate that they're trying to tax residents as they leave the state. Note to all: I've lived 36 of my 50 years in California. I've lived in the Bay Area, Riverside County, and San Diego. I've worked in both the central valley and the Sacramento area. I currently live in San Diego county. I'm saying this to head off all of the typical "California is the 6th largest economy" in the world or the "California subsidizes" the red states commenters. I can tell you from first hand and years of experience that California is declining fast. The homeless problem is totally out of control. The crime, especially in the cities, is not only out of control, it's totally unaddressed. Believe me, I've lived in California longer than most of these commenters have been alive.

[@joe-zj8js]

Another thing is ppl like me. Born and raised in orange county and found it hard to make a decent living after the military. I moved out at 33 and now make a 6 fig income. Ppl and other talking heads say its only broke people that are leaving because they cant afford to live here. That may be partially true. There are many people like me who have come up in a big way when they arent being screwed 6 ways from sunday. Cheers.

[@l-dog]

Lmao. TIL in upper middle class. Def doesn't feel like it. I feel poor AF.

[@mcren6781]

The whole country is declining my friend, and nobody wants to talk about it or do anything about it. Just keep quiet and behave!

[@acamiln8354]

No disaster without liberals. :)

[@joegardner5386]

California will be a 3rd world country soon. how can they legally tax people who don’t live in the state? They want to pay for all these free social programs. Free health care for illegal immigrants for one which is unsustainable. They will have to start cutting these programs soon.

[@kenearnest3921]

I’m middle class and I’m leaving CA. The best days of the state are behind it. Overpriced housing, the homeless, progressive policies , freeways jammed, high taxes, high gas prices, bold criminals who aren’t given appropriate sentences. This isn’t the CA of the 80’s I loved. It’s a whole different looking state. Bye bye

[@davidochoa774]

It's also happening in Washington State, especially in the Seattle area. The house and gas prices are outrageous. Also rush hour is awful, the afternoon one starts as early as 2pm. I've lived in the Seattle Metro Area for all of my life and I'm sad to see how terrible the area has become. I'm planning on leaving for another state in the next few years or so.

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not “It’s a whole different looking state.” /

[@KaiChai]

@@davidochoa774 And what do they have in common? Don’t kid yourself….Woke is broke!

[@WrinkleFitzGerald]

It’s simple cause and effect of liberal politics yet people still be all like *surprise pikacu* when it happens.

[@Adam-kk7nw]

Ur leaving California but u move to different state and still vote blue and say we need higher taxes

[@bethd9160]

I moved to Arizona 3 years ago from California. What I save in taxes is paying for 4 trips to europe this year alone!

[@christophernava6685]

You should check out Poland lived there for 9 months its a cheap place to visit and tons of history.

[@jamesd242]

@@christophernava6685 so is the Czech Republic and Portugal

[@monicasuson6370]

You hit the nail in he head. I left California 18 yrs ago. Now I can go vacations, bought myself a nice little sports car, nice clothes, and dine out -basically have a good life. And plus, I make more money now than working in California.

[@anthonym6559]

I left 90 days ago and it’s been the best decision of my life. I never thought I’d be able to buy a house until now. I don’t feel the pressure of having to make 100k. There no traffic and people are so nice and friendly.

[@mra95662]

where at?

[@paulrodriguez1282]

Where? We'd like to come. LOL 😆😆

[@anthonym6559]

@@paulrodriguez1282 Red States

[@leeboriack8054]

In Texas, the influx of Californians has jacked up housing costs, spiked the cost of living and made highways unbearably slow. I miss the old Texas, sadly I’m leaving for another state.

[@mistrmistr6417]

Wow, that sucks

[@darkocvetic5832]

Prices are going up all around the world, so why would Texas be exception? Or Californias are moving all around the word!? Right, probably not… stupid conclusions

[@tohka3347]

I live in south Texas Wayyy bottom of Texas and it’s not that bad here 🤔 prices are affordable we got a nice beach and traffic isn’t bad honestly 🤠

[@214dude2]

That’s only in the major cities.

[@tomhenry897]

And making Texas a democrat state

[@nunyabidness3075]

It’s not rich people leaving that’s really the problem. If you lose the ambitious young people, that’s when you are in real trouble. They see older people leaving, and they learn why, then they follow because they realize there’s no sense building a life where others will try to take it from you.

[@twins123dodgers]

Facts. My friends and I (mid-twenties) all grew up in the bay area and we all either never came back after college or are living with parents at home because those are really the only 2 options. That is unless you're comfortable never having a room to yourself or never being able to save a dime. We all have damn good degrees and potentially lucrative careers but even then California just isn't the place anymore. God, I miss that weather and geography though

[@nunyabidness3075]

@@twins123dodgers Got transferred there in the mid 90’s, lasted less than a year. Realized it was crazy and moved back to Texas. Have two cousins still there. They don’t appear to have a heck of a lot of savings.

[@SantraSam]

Young people go where rich people are.

[@twins123dodgers]

@@T1kr3b3u While that's certainly true, it doesn't change the high cost of living in the area. Even if you pay nothing in taxes, you're still paying an exorbitant amount for *everything*. And unless you land a lucrative starting position at one of the big firms in the state, it's nearly impossible to have a respectable life on your own with money left over for healthy savings. Of course, this mostly applies to the desired areas of the state. You can definitely have a decent quality of life in, say, Stockton, but then you have to live in Stockton

[@nunyabidness3075]

@@twins123dodgers isn’t Stockton a high crime area for a small city? You are correct that high cost of living is the underlying issue for most people whether it’s caused by taxes or not. There’s a really big correlation with too much government and high cost of living though. The bigger the host, the bigger the parasite.

[@tvdinner325]

We left Santa Rosa. After we lost our home to the Tubbs Fire, Sonoma Co, wanted $45,000 in permits to rebuild our 1500 sq. ft. home. Just disgusting. We sold the lot, and it's still empty. They haven't collected real property taxes on that lot since 2017. How does that make economic sense? The sales tax on building materials, the property taxes on a home, the income taxes for the contractors, plus our income taxes lost to another state. I estimate, that $45K lost them $250K to date.

[@BearcatJamboree]

Did you ever hear the story about the $1.7 million public restroom in San Francisco?

[@vincentortega4284]

Politicians have no common sense

[@tvdinner325]

@@BearcatJamboree No?

[@BearcatJamboree]

@@tvdinner325 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJjEk3uqdpyshqs&ab_channel=NBCBayArea

[@ericfaz1427]

@@BearcatJamboree $1.2 million of it is for NON-construction related issues.

[@jaysant6958]

Only when I starting making more money & begun paying more attention to my finances did I begin to become aware of all the hindrances to growth that California has. For example you have to pay full tax on your HSA contributions which pretty much defeat its purpose. When doing my taxes & getting to the State Income tax part, I can’t count how many times the prompter said, “California does not conform to this Federal Tax Break”, “California does not acknowledge that Federal Tax Break”. It’s maddening.

[@charq52]

Even those of us who are not rich are also fed up….and have left.

[@strawberriesncandii]

I left because of the crime. It’s a shame because I loved living in my neighborhood. But everyone I know either has been robbed, gotten their homes cased, assaulted, or knows someone who had this happen to them. Even Beverly Hills isn’t safe anymore. The Flats constantly have helicopters over the the homes because home invasions and break ins are becoming common. Yet there are a lot of Angelenos who think the open drug use, near elementary schools and day cares, fires, assaults, frequent home invasions, follow and robs, homeless people defecating in businesses serving food and supermarkets, and then carrying weapons to harm people is normal. The rest of the world doesn’t act this way.

[@ThailandEnthusiast]

It's ALWAYS one group of people. I'll give you a clue. Big O astronaut nike shoes.

[@ianjohngonzales4066]

Theres plenty of gangstas and theres more wanna be gangstas all over the place.its spiraling out of control but if youre rich you can have youre own private army.😅

[@davida7559]

@Consuelo Villegas ha ha. I was in lake view terrace last week. What a beautiful seen. Homeless people everywhere

[@sew_gal7340]

Me too, i live in a red state now and though there are trade offs...(lack of diverse foods, lack of culture, lack of diverse people, lack of entertainment) but the safety is without doubt the key reason why i chose to live here. Everyday it is so quiet i can hear the birds chirping and the solitude is real, there are no tarp, no tents, no homeless who yell at you. I lived 30 years in San Francisco and i dont remember ever walking outside and not feeling tense or nervous. Red states are not always "better" but anything is better than crime infested city blocks.

[@tiffanycurtis4794]

People keep voting for this crap but rich and people that can afford it are leaving and it’s all cities ran by democraps🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sharenplace5261]

People are fed up with the government policy in California there chasing people out

[@jPaperHands]

Maybe spell check before you post..?!

[@pieseldatches]

Stop voting for these corrupt clowns then.

[@safeandeffectivelol]

@@jPaperHands Use proper grammar before you post.

[@mrtopcat2]

@@jPaperHands So you are bothered by the truth in the post, but can't find any argument to counter, so you mock spelling. You might thing this may not be obvious, but only to you.

[@slymcfly123]

Nor true

[@HarmonySunLove]

The whole “Please leave California” government program has to be one of the most successful ever.

[@blainegabbertgabonemhofgoa6602]

What was that program?

[@JonFox1945]

​@@blainegabbertgabonemhofgoa6602 I think he is being ironic. The liberal laws and policies that increase crime. The policies that benefit the lazy or rich but not the hard working class. You get punished for working hard etc. I think that's what he meant

[@QueenNGtheGreat]

In California during a global pandemic Gas went up to $7.60, Food prices has doubled, people are more separated and racist than ever. It also rained the 1st 3 months this year. Yeah...they're pushing people out 🤔

[@mindblowing8672]

@@QueenNGtheGreatit’s what happened when Yal vote for Biden.

[@QueenNGtheGreat]

@@mindblowing8672 Trump was the president during the pandemic!!!!

[@jamesharrison6569]

This is scary. Rich people pay politicians to make sure they get access to taxpayer funds first when banks shutter or they're in jeopardy of losing all their money. I feel bad for the lowest paid workers that may be affected, but not CEO's. A lot of them have created this abusive corporate pay structure where they are paid 300 to 400 percent the salary of entry level workers. Most add very little value. They posture and perform with speeches, meetings, and excessive travel to provide the appearance of working hard. It's a con.

[@grooveman222]

A friend recently moved to Nashville and quickly discovered that five neighbors on his street were all from California.

[@Alckee]

love the victim blaming lmao.

[@UncleBensRice...]

California has been through this cycle. It's actually a good thing they are leaving. It will benefit the ones who stay with time.

[@Alckee]

@@UncleBensRice... except it won’t because the top 10% pay 80% of CA tacked.

[@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia]

Agree

[@strivingformore9900]

I’m trying to figure out why it took them so long to come to their senses to leave.

[@blakej6416]

Same thing has happened in other places and times. Thomas Sowell talked about how an increase in the tax rate for millionaires in Maryland led to an exodus of millionaires, ultimately reducing tax revenues.

[@Max2nice]

Maryland born and raised. Not a millionaire but I do well. Can’t wait to get out of here

[@TighelanderII]

I say we put the tax rate back to what it was, "in the good old days!" It was around 91% back then. I'm all for it!

[@safeandeffectivelol]

@@TighelanderII The effective tax rate was still less than 30% due to tax deductions. They lowered the tax rate and got rid of the extra deductions so the effective tax rate remained the same. Ignorant and stupid people don't understand what happened. You're free to pay a 91% effective tax rate if you feel that's fair. Just cut an extra check the US Treasury. That's what I thought 🤣🤣🤣

[@noellecms]

@@TighelanderII hopefully it is 91% for all income level.

[@TighelanderII]

@@noellecms Why don't you like "the good old days"?

[@banrg1]

No matter how many people leave it’s still expensive. House prices never go down here.

[@MyMotherTheCar]

Truth. They're being bought up by investors who don't care if they sit empty.

[@Too510]

Unfortunately

[@doords]

@@MyMotherTheCar yeah a lot of foreign money too

[@conservativechristian8508]

Actually, do you remember a guy named Obama? Yes, it was called a recession and I lost a couple of hundred thousand in home value. Currently, inflation effectively diminishes the value of all things including cash, real estate assets, etc… The price goes up, but your income does not match the increase. Essentially your money is worth much less because our government is addicted to spending money they/we don’t have.

[@UncleNiikii]

They will...

[@lordnetsplits3192]

Income tax is modern slavery.

[@jacobnapkins1155]

Paying rent is modern slavery

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

It is what it is. Being born is MUCH more of a curse than it is a chance to enjoy the beauty and menagerie of Earth's awesomeness. Hell, even DYING will bankrupt an entire family.

[@dingus6317]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat Federal Reserve

[@mal1465]

B & R in Ca and at 60 y/o I left. Most of my family is still there so I do go back once in a while. I have to tell you once I cross that California state line coming in, I can feel the pressure. I’ve been away now for three years and have never regretted it

[@jeffmorse645]

Live in "North State". Not really expensive to live up here (well, only a little higher than the national average). I'm leaving in a few months to get away from almost perpetual wildfires. I live within 30 miles (as the crow flies) from the Camp Fire, the North Complex and the Dixie Fire - all since 2018. Weeks or even over a month of toxic levels of wildfire smoke. It made me physically sick every time. I was born and raised in Northern and Central California and the wildfire situation just keeps getting worse the past 20 years. That smoke isn't healthy to breathe on a regular basis. Moving to Florida - they many have hurricanes, but at least the air is clean almost all the time.

[@markhernandez5760]

That’s because Newsom ruined everything

[@cheaserceaser]

It’s Trumps fault. He is to blame for everything wrong

[@Soapboxstomper]

I think Newsome is an Awesome Responsible Caring Governor!! Love that guy❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@gulfcoastmodern8103]

This native Californian left six years ago. It was a daily struggle to dodge crime and anger and excessive taxation. I came to the free state of Florida. Now I am a Realtor helping refugees from states like California, New York, Illinois, etc come to freedom. They know exactly why they are escaping and know the power of voting. Despite what MSM media says about the reasons Californians are leaving, every one of my buyers has come because of politics.

[@ocampbell1954]

As a Floridian we don't want ya'll down here. All ya'll are doing is driving up the cost of living, bringing more traffic, driving up property taxes, etc.

[@twins123dodgers]

Freedom is certainly relative. I moved to a "free" state where I could own firearms, pay fewer taxes, and mostly be left alone to mind my own business. But god forbid I get caught with some plants, or even worse, get caught with some plants while exercising my right to bear arms. That could realistically ruin my life, and all because of a handful of prejudicial, scientifically illiterate Boomer Republicans squatting in the state house. I'm a Republican myself, but the Republicans in most "free" states are freedom-loving in name only

[@tomhenry897]

And still voting democrat that made the mess you fled

[@marcmodrow5759]

@@tomhenry897 No. The people moving to Florida are absolutely voting Republican. That is why they choose Florida.

[@rebeccamd7903]

Yeah Florida is great if you have a high paying job, otherwise you’re more screwed than you are in California. I moved from Florida to California and we’re living better here than we ever did in Florida. Plus we actually get good medical help, unlike Florida where nobody would remove a life threatening LapBand from me because my insurance wouldn’t cover it and I would be out the entire expense. Rent or mortgage is the same, car insurance is cheaper, homeowners taxes are way cheaper…cost of living is the same but you make way more money.

[@rodriguezrodriguez9392]

I’m moving my company out of California .

[@frankmacleod2565]

Bye!

[@sueyuyu3654]

me too

[@cgreen1693]

Bye don't let the door hit u on the way out.

[@HeyItsAvi90]

Rodriguez imaginary company lmao

[@lisabaltzer4190]

My husband and I did that exact thing. We moved to Idaho. Love it here.

[@jlowrie33]

Left SoCal for Nashville last year. Clean neighborhood, nice people, no graffiti and no homeless encampments. Wait, no state taxes as well. Half acre house for 400k. LOL. Not sure why we didn't do this years ago.

[@danf1862]

They may not have income taxes in Texas, but your property tax is where they make up for it. It's brutal. Those folks will find themselves in homes 25-36% smaller for the same money

[@user-uo4rf4ez8c]

Yes, absolutely outrageous, ours went from $4860 in 2010 to $16K as of 2019. I sold and moved to an island off the coast of Savannah.

[@jowbloe4700]

​@@user-uo4rf4ez8c Tybee Island?

[@towingtowing]

Apparently not. The voters keep voting for the democrats. You get what YOU vote for.

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

TN makes it up with high sales taxes, but still it's much much cheaper when you take in the big picture, and also consider it's much freer with more open spaces to breathe.

[@krod2162]

I guess sometimes the grass isn't much greener on the other side For now, I'm staying in California. I'm just finding ways to beat the system.

[@FastGunner7]

I lived in California for 38 years, middle class (single) and could not afford it anymore. Taxes are crazy, Gas price sucks, Crimes going crazy and politicians idea to make up revenue is to tax more. I moved and I'll never move back. I'll miss the beaches and the redwood forest but I guess I could visit Oregon instead.

[@ctom4932]

Oregon is going south fast. I've still got family in California. They can come visit me, I won't go back even for a day. Not even for funerals.

[@sew_gal7340]

@@ctom4932 CA isnt that bad, yes i also moved out of there (SF to Pennsylvania) ...but i go back and aside from having my car broken into once...it is nice to visit but not to live.

[@ldaws-3912]

democrats and liberals love taxes. you should see how bad it is here in canada. taxed to death while our prime minister lives of luxury in his rat infested house. i kid you not.

[@Halcon_Sierreno]

​@@ctom4932Wow

[@andyd3447]

Thank god! Bye!

[@philipmarz707]

After 25 years in California I left in 2001. It was the best thing I ever did and frankly two men and a boy couldn't drag my behind back there. In the early 70's it was a decent place to be but year after year it continued to go down hill. For those who've thought about leaving but can't bring yourself to do it, just plan it and go. You'd be surprised how much better life will be

[@cgreen1693]

😂😅😅😅two strong men's to help you move and a young boy. Crank yonker

[@alphathefirstone1222]

I hear you. I move here from the South. I do not miss the south. I do not want to up north due to the cold weather. I have seen mid west it not all that. I have seen rockies once again too cold. So I would like leave but I do not have another place in the USA to go.. I think If I do go, I would be going away from the USA. Maybe Germany , Asia or south america. I am not moving to another US state lol!!

[@HeyItsAvi90]

Tends to be the "best thing" when you cant afford it, Bye minimum wage philip! :D

[@NoNo-bz1fz]

@Philip Marz “Two men and a boy?” Pedo much? Sounds like California is better off without you.

[@dis4980]

Cope harder Avi.

[@billmeeker774]

I was shocked during my last visit to California with all the homeless, beggars and drugged out panhandlers. What has happened to the ‘golden’ state that is quickly looking like one huge ghetto now?

[@redstateforever]

Democrats.

[@paulrodriguez1282]

This is what happens when you allow people to do whatever they want to do. They become savages on a free for all. What a Dump!!! I don't blame the hard working, decent people from moving out. They shouldn't be penalized for leaving.

[@tedabdulfattah2601]

After years of budget surplus, CA is facing a 30 billion dollars deficit. The main reason for the deficit is CA now collecting less taxes due to many people leaving the state. What does that mean? Our taxes (middle class) about to go up again.

[@eleventy-seven]

Actually every house sold generates more sales tax. It's businesses that hurt. We've had downturns before. In a few years when Florida and Texas become even more screwed up twice the gun deaths per capita already and climbing, people who can afford it will move back.

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

And nobody talks about the unfunded liabilities of 1.5 TRILLION.

[@billmM3605]

@@eleventy-seven The very few, if any, that move back to this crapper hole won't help enough. This state is too far gone. I don't ever see this place changing course. As soon as the state has to cut back on all of the freebies there will be riots in the streets and no cops to stop it.

[@imo8249]

BS, California got billions of federal helicopter money 👍

[@tedabdulfattah2601]

@@imo8249 do you research about the deficit

[@sunnyday3327]

Not just wealthy are leaving, I’ve seen residents of all incomes leave bec California is soft on crime, this has altered quality of life too much. Higher gas, food & home or rental prices are other reasons.

[@mikemiller659]

SF supervisor scott weiner did that making shop lifting a way of life fort criminals

[@mania01-wb5pg]

WELCOME TO DEMOCRACY

[@rollinia7770]

Those people in Welfare have no fear as the tax payers pay for there lifetime living and more generations to come.

[@bennygarcia7786]

I was born and raised in Goshen California, I left in 2017, best decision I ever made

[@lisabaltzer4190]

Raised in El Sereno and Venice, California and I got stuck living in Pacoima for 7 years 😫. I couldn’t wait to get out of there and escaped to North Idaho 20 years ago. It was one of the smartest things I ever did. I NEVER want to go back.

[@snakuvudu]

Well yeah Goshen sucks.

[@ChatBloom]

Don't pick democrap

[@Loveroflife5.0.]

That’s right bro, I’m from Fresno I made 50K last year I’m leaving and taking it with me

[@Loveroflife5.0.]

@@snakuvudu the whole thing sucks

[@sideshow1297]

I was amazed to learn this is a southern California TV station. I didn't think stories like this got air time. Good for them.

[@christophernava6685]

especially KTLA

[@xpresident]

I blazed a trail out of California in 2001! Wouldn’t move back if you offered beachfront property in Malibu. ;)

[@dplorbl]

This is really old news, or as they say: A day late; a dollar short. I moved my business in 2018 to NV, taking my employees with me and 2.5 mil a year in payroll…not a huge sum but I’m sure it was felt in Sacramento. I pity the working class down there

[@CreatorHouseVlogs]

Not really someone else just took your spot

[@Tony_Kaku]

Are you hiring? I am considering moving to NV 😁

[@britniemonet_3693]

Should’ve moved to Newport Beach, I’m from Sacramento:) now living in the oc where all the taxes go lol

[@vickicade4931]

@@Tony_Kaku I was going to ask the same question. Going to Nevada tomorrow. This state is killing us😢

[@alaricspence3]

I'm not rich I'm leaving corrupt California

[@frankmacleod2565]

Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out

[@Soapboxstomper]

Theres nothing corrupt about Cali!! Great quality of life and generally gorgeous weather❤❤❤

[@alaricspence3]

There is something wrong in Los Angeles CA When the elite are protected in sex crimes by LAPD, prosecutors, judges, public defender's Facts Ask Michael Trujillo democrat consultant why was he protected

[@alaricspence3]

Something is wrong is wrong when judge Renee Korn only gave two year sentence to a sheriff deputy for raping four women And recommend he goes to fire camp It's in Los Angeles times newspaper Cost the tax payer $4 million dollars

[@alaricspence3]

Something is wrong when a Los Angeles prosecutor is allowed to keep his job after a sexual harassment case That's a crime It was in the Los Angeles times newspaper Cost the tax payer $400, 000

[@alanm5090]

I wonder why California's governor doesn't care?🤔

[@Andorski]

His voters don't care. He just has to say BLM and take a picture with a pride flag to get reelected.

[@mikemiller659]

He's Leaving too...to Washington DC

[@tedabdulfattah2601]

Because he's about to raise our taxes

[@eduardorivera7723]

cause the middle class pay more in taxes why would he care if the rich leave

[@cesarhernandez8056]

Alan M exactly he don't care because al government agencies make a lot money and is our money where i was working before in California the government pay them 10.000 a month.

[@noobsaibot8844]

Should be law that moving out of California is racist.

[@jasoncoomer1226]

*Carjackers: Please come back or we will have to resort to stealing cheaper cars* #DefundCalifornia

[@jasonm47100]

Born and raised in CA. Saw the decline first hand. Family and myself victims of multiple robberies, theft, break ins. I could go on and on about the insanity. Moved to a red state where they ENFORCE LAWS. now I live in peace.

[@mac1mike]

Same here. Born and raised, but come 2008 and home invasion was my going away present

[@acetheman7]

8 of the 10 most violent states last year were "red states." LOL

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

North Korea and China and Hitler's Germany "enforced the laws". Why don't you move there?

[@LamboV12]

I left and took millions of tax money away from them. It doesn't make sense that I would pay all this money and still deal with all the crime

[@andyd3447]

lol troll.

[@cloud-ny5ux]

nobody cares

[@LamboV12]

@@cloud-ny5ux you cared enough to comment ;)

[@cloud-ny5ux]

@@LamboV12 you really got me there ;)

[@mocheen4837]

Good job. I want to leave as well.

[@kevinguthmiller8510]

Our family is counting down the years, and we do well enough financially. We are sick of the autocratic policies here just as much as the taxes on income and everything else.

[@lindafukuyu5767]

I’m not a super rich, I already moved to Midwest since the beginning of the year and I really love it here .. much greener, no traffic, lots of jobs, less taxes, lower cost of living and most importantly The People .. in general are very nice.

[@maestrovso]

Don't worry, California has no shortage of new residents moving in to make up for them in sheer number. They like free handouts, decriminalization of crimes, cashless shopping, open hard drug use, warm weather, sunshine, and catch and release no cash bail. New residents are flooding in from the north, east, and south of the border to replenish the rich moving out.

[@nameuser4406]

Newsome will find ways to make people pay more in taxes.

[@jamesmcguire1953]

Newscum

[@miamivicefanatic9736]

Many Californians have a tax-deferred 401k with a significant balance. It makes sense to consider moving to a state with no income tax, or a much lower income tax. The thought of not incurring state income tax as they either make withdrawals, or do Roth conversions, is very appealing.

[@ae-holo5972]

Of all the people I know who have moved out of state are retiring or retired. It makes sense from a financial prospective. Me personally I like California to much to leave.

[@YachtsOnTheReg7]

I just looked up CA's tax rates for 2023. CA taxes the poor, the lower middle and middle class people at the same rate that other states tax the rich! Even worse than when compared to no income tax states. The 6% tax bracket in CA starts at just $32,960. If you are making $33K in CA you are POOR. Even other blue states only tax the rich at 5-6%. That is just insane.

[@lisabaltzer4190]

@@ae-holo5972 My late husband and I left California 20 years ago and we were nowhere near retirement age. We owned an auto body shop and it became impossible to do business in Los Angeles anymore, so we sold it off (it has closed down a few years after we left) and moved to Idaho and started another business. I only wish we had left California much sooner.

[@ae-holo5972]

@@lisabaltzer4190 I’m glad it worked out for you. I don’t live in the Los Angeles area, so I don’t have experience with the whole big city issues and homelessness. That for sure makes a difference in my opinion. I have travel to many other states, but wouldn’t move out of my specific community.

[@erikh9991]

@@lisabaltzer4190 The great brains of CA government just outlawed the ability to chrome things. So you cannot make medial devices in this state.

[@harleyatc956]

Hardworking taxpayers out…….illegals, the homeless and freeloaders in.

[@halfdohm]

Top 10% of earners pay 80% of the taxes. And they want out...let that sink in. Crime is out of control and politicians don't want to do anything about it.

[@FRITO.BANDITO]

Imagine a multi billion dollar deficit and losing your tax base…. I see a complete collapse

[@thisguy4505]

Get out before Newsom starts building his own Escape From LA wall to keep people in.

[@eddieg6436]

Taxes, and wildfires made me leave.

[@leo2530]

Really!!!! With the crappy communist like govt, the stupid people, the traffic. And the oppressive heat, taxes and wildfire is what made you leave!!! Wow!!

[@gussalas2866]

Now is criminals

[@ctom4932]

I'm downwind of any NorCal wildfires. Some years it's so bad that we get grey "snow", ash covering the ground. I swear it's like Cali isn't even trying to fight the fires anymore. Got another move coming up that will fix that problem. Texas baby. Life in a swing state is only good until that one democrat wins the governor's office. Average house in Reno circa 2016, $350k. Today, $750K. Thanks to Sisolak. Just qualifying to rent a 1 bedroom apartment in a decent neighborhood, you need a household income of $40k annually. At work, our low end staff is constantly turned over. They only make $30k a year, at best. They can't afford to stay.

[@Mncrr]

I’ll be leaving New York next year when my last is out of state college. And I’ll be taking my wealth with me. Goodbye

[@renardfranse]

did the same in 2020

[@BTrain-is8ch]

The top 10% of earners pay 80% of the taxes collected in the state and the top 1% make up 50% and if you ask a random Californian on the street I bet they'd STILL tell you the rich don't pay their share.

[@cryptoico2647]

Be smart, Google is your friend.. use it before posting ignorance stuff on KZbin

[@ButtmanAtHeart]

Numbers dont add up. 80% and 50% make 130% doesnt it? How do you get 30% more than 100%? 2 groups paying more than all of the taxes?

[@BTrain-is8ch]

@@ButtmanAtHeart The numbers are cumulative. The top 1% is a subset of the top 10%. Put another way the bottom 90% of Californians account for 20%. The next 9% of Californians account for 30%. The final 1% of Californians account for the remaining 50%.

[@renardfranse]

They DONT!!!! They should be paying a LOT less!!

[@Jake-tq6uc]

@@ButtmanAtHeart I've got neither the time nor the crayons to go over this math...

[@mytexasdays1526]

You asked for it. Keep raising taxes and decreasing services. Keep on building sky high without enough water and power to sustain the increase. Don't widen the streets when you allow building. There's plenty of open land in other states.

[@jpete3027666]

If you don’t have financial and economic freedom you aren’t free.

[@toasgreece]

Take 40 million subtract 500,000 get 39.5 million people is why the freeway and everywhere else is still crowded.

[@tylerkriesel8590]

California never had 40 million people.

[@toasgreece]

Feels crowded so I wanted to believe it.

[@tylerkriesel8590]

@@toasgreece its probably already happening, but the population decline is so slow you don’t notice it. Take a video when your on the highway now, then one 10 years from now. You might be surprised.

[@toasgreece]

@@tylerkriesel8590 I’m pretty happy about it

[@mawi1172]

HOW many have left? Not enough.

[@ChatBloom]

No- they will keep voting democrap!!!!

[@FULLIMP4CT]

High taxes, woke schools, high crime, homelessness, dirty because of the homeless this place sucks.I’m stuck here because my family is here and they’re the most important thing to me.

[@Soapboxstomper]

Woke schools is completely trumpian made up bullying talk!! Means nothing!! Crazy people😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sativadiva2389]

"Woke schools" lmao you people really need a new handful of buzzwords phrases to throw around😅

[@randyg.743]

@@sativadiva2389 Hoping you stay in California then.

[@leslielucci3182]

Then the whole family can leave together. Do it before things get so bad, no one wants to buy your homes

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

That's the irony, too. Rich swells can leave. Poor fools cannot. As always, if you ain't rich, yer dah BEEEIIIOTCH! 😂🤣😂

[@bengolfs1]

He failed to mention Measure ULA, or the "Mansion Tax" which passed last year and will increase taxes for certain house sales. Guess where this added revenue will go towards?

[@TheHouseofChameleons]

Democrat solution to equality is to make hard working people poor.

[@amit4Bihar]

Unlivable place

[@frankmacleod2565]

Bye!

[@slowlyrusting4044]

Adios, good bye, see ya.

[@Soapboxstomper]

Lived here all my life and I ❤ LA🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ChatBloom]

You voted for it

[@IAmThanos01]

Reno, NV is already screwed. Go home Californians.

[@frankmacleod2565]

Only the loser quitters are leaving

[@Soapboxstomper]

We are home!!❤

[@kurtholden4771]

Finally people are understanding! Geez took long enough. And he just admitted, "we had it wrong" CA is an awesome state but better figure out how to reverse this trend. Sadly, we prob will leave too.

[@jrallday]

California needs to do a recall on their Governor. Meaning get him out of office early. Newsom is a clown 🤡

[@manac2334]

I left Crapifornia 12 years ago. I will NEVER move back.

[@Ivan.A.Churlyuski]

I’m tired of L.A. politics dominating my county 500 miles away.

[@pilot88pro]

You mean Sacramento?

[@hugogutierrez9250]

California. High taxes, crime, homelessness, and the money goes to things like the police who don’t help anything they just make it worse.

[@frankmacleod2565]

You just described America

[@stupidrepublicans]

maybe defund the police so criminals have an easier time -

[@geoleo2597]

Wow I didn't realize California had the highest income tax. Not ok. Also property tax is ridiculously high too. For a house I bought in 2002 with yearly reassessments i was paying almost $10,000 a year! As expensive as Hawaii is, at least the property tax is the lowest in the nation.

[@on2wheels378]

Property taxes in CA is actually some of the lowest in 50 states... check on it. State income taxes us the highest. There is a give and take. Az pays the same wages etc, less state income taxes by far, way more reasonable gas prices but real estate taxes are higher than ca.

[@on2wheels378]

@@777trader8 no argument here but there is a hove and take and Ca isn't a place to be. The middle class person, with a spouse can earn low six figures but having children and buying a home, gas prices, etc. Is out of the question. They're taxing their people to death... They're full on socialists. Homelessness, rampant property crime etc. It's dying on the vine unless there is a tax revolt. They went fro. A 30B budget surpluses to a deficit under Newsom. I'm a public employee with 6 years to retire and it won't be ca...

[@geoleo2597]

@@on2wheels378 True. So when taxes are calculated on assessed values, on a home assessed at say $800, 000 vs. a lower assessed value home in AZ, the taxes become very high. Overall, CA is just too high for many vs living in other states.

[@on2wheels378]

@Geo Leo home prices are very high. To add. I was raised in the 90806. Born there, my parents live there 56 years. $850k for a 1300 sqft home. Get out of here. I was lucky, many like me who bought before 2003... it's madness what it's become. The 90803 where I live now isn't better either. Millions for homes...Millions!

[@geoleo2597]

@@on2wheels378 yes, very high property values. But that also means you can build much equity and leverage it to use for investing

[@user-vi2dk1qz5f]

Who would even want to live in California

[@j.a.3138]

I would if I had the money and I live in FL

[@rourou95822]

Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Florida homes are matching California homes prices, wonder why

[@whatsreal7506]

Well... no kidding... Y'all did it to yourselves! As a former Californian been in Texas for 34 years: do not come here! Stay out

[@Soapboxstomper]

Judgemental maybe??

[@calture5086]

What'sreal OK, boomer🙄

[@te1ephraq]

In my circle, people who left were renting in San Francisco and relocated inside the company to Austin.

[@Too510]

And look what happened to Austin smh

[@KarlDahlquist]

You thought they would leave their tax revenue here? Here is another news flash, they are creating new jobs outside of CA also.

[@monicasuson6370]

I left 18 years ago bec the taxes were getting ridiculous. Taxes was like another mortgage. Initially I was bummed out but now I am so so happy I made that decision. Sold my house for a big profit.

[@papawoody9597]

Give people a financial motivation to do something and that's what they'll do. Especially people who have worked to be successful, only to see their taxes go up and their standard of living go down.

[@razorramoneljefe5956]

I moved to a republican state for a few years .... Job I worked at actually appreciated me and ppl just worked unlike here they'll stab you in the back over $5 ...my bank account grew etc ...I had to come back family stuff smh those ppl aren't even rich a middle class home cost $700,000 or more you sell that and buy half a mountain in some other state

[@ianjohngonzales4066]

They dont play with wage theft?just curious.

[@razorramoneljefe5956]

@@ianjohngonzales4066 probably get taxed more I worked retail and those ppl crying to raise the minimum smh all they did was cut my hours I was working full time then they dropped us all to part time ...when I asked they slandered us saying we where crappy workers 🙄 performance etc but the managers would steal time working over time then disappearing 😂 glad I left that job

[@TacticalShinebox]

I'm from Chicago and almost everyone retired is leaving the area. My family is mostly out of state or leaving soon. I may to eventually as much as I love the city.

[@cehayes74]

I moved next door 🚪 to Northwest Indiana (South Lake County) in 2011 & I don’t regret it at all !!! Yes I pay 💰 two state taxes (Indiana & Illinois) but it’s worth it 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 !!!!

[@debrafirestone861]

Well I’m not surprised the taxes there must be unbelievable

[@johnmayerislovee]

Some call it the U-Haul or truck rental effect. Rates for moving OUT of California are much higher than for rates moving TO California. Supply and demand.

[@jake4024]

It’s not the wealthy it’s the hardworking people, they are tired of being squeezed.

[@garyanddoris6022]

The government policy is just not in California, even here in Kentucky insurance, food , housing , cars , etc has become unbearable price , how the hell do think anyone can live like that , if you was rich it wouldn't last long at these prices , what are our governments really up to .....????

[@FRITO.BANDITO]

Money to pay for social services has to come from somewhere

[@Neverender3367]

Crime and cost, plain and simple. I like how at the end, when the one female host stated the blatantly obvious fact, all three other host got awkward and immediately changed the subject. 🤫

[@henryjohnson-ville3834]

I noticed her calling pr!ck Biden "a skeleton". Freaking epic. 😂😂

[@getinthespace7715]

I turned down a job in CA that would have paid double... Problem is after I compared the numbers in detail, to maintain the same standard of living as I have now, they would need to pay me almost 4x more. Turned it down and when I told them why they weren't surprised.

[@mymomsoldlandcruiser7220]

I took my business and left that dreaded state due to really bad lefty policies. I will be voting for Trump 2024 and moved to a RED state for freedom sake. No Drag, No Drugs, No Democrats.

[@dougtrouble5229]

More people move from Florida to California

[@19ld]

I left California in 2013 and moved to Utah, best decision ever!

[@Too510]

Until people from cali follow you and make it expensive again…

[@Too510]

I heard they already got Colorado

[@dingus6317]

@@Too510 Them mormons will keep Utah clean

[@henryjohnson-ville3834]

Yep! I would love to move to Flagstaff. I really hate the heat in Commie-fornia. If its over 83 degree Fahrenheit I get b!tchy. Now imagine when it's 100 degrees... 😤😤

[@dainguyen784]

i left in 2018 and took 25 office job to texas, the state was too much to deal with. The taxes and high prices I can live with, but the hostile business law drove us away. There are too many fraudulent EDD claim and ppl came in to take advantage of the california law. We were being scam left and right, then went to the EDD board and got slap in the face, so i left. I sold my company in 2020 in texas and now am retired in florida. It's a sad story bc i grew up in california, but the hostile business environment need to change.

[@dainguyen784]

@veryslyfox it's not $10K in insurance and $400 in electric bil. You obviouisly haven't live in Fl or TX before. Such ignorant statement show the type of person you are.

[@Orcinus1967]

They are not going to insure homes in fore areas soon in CA. You watch.@veryslyfox

[@smokinroks]

Whats the chances the same people leaving are the same ones who voted for the people and policies that caused them to leave?…and then they go to the next place only to do it again…

[@thabeastfrumdaeast]

Very high now that I think of it

[@cessna172ident]

Extremely high. The same policies that screwed CA are being used in many other states. Those who voted for the same policies, if they have a brain, are scratching their heads wondering how it can be so.

[@mikegee729]

Look at Austin, TX. Lefties fleeing the cesspool that they created, moved here and drove up the property taxes and began voting for the same crap. SMH

[@randyg.743]

They ruined Colorado by bringing their voting habits with them. (D's)

[@Maybeemay]

Same in Arizona, we’ve had a republican for years just so we can get a democrat and so many coming from Cali, Washington, New York since 2020 and crime has increased ever since

[@davidwelty9763]

Wow! A news story that is actually covering this issue.

[@latinlover769]

They are like locust. Destroy the state then move somewhere else to ruin it as well..

[@aristotlekumpis7095]

This isn’t anything new. It’s been going on for decades. But it’s increased due to Covid and people working from home.

[@itsyooboii1464]

Do you tell yourself that to maker yourself feel better? this hasn't happened at this rate. Over 300 companies have left CA since Newsom become governor. Like Chevron and Tesla and Geico.

[@joeking9061]

Crimes, homelessness, drug addiction and high taxes. Its not safe for everybody!

[@norcalzbadX17]

I wish I could leave but I'm stuck here

[@HeyItsAvi90]

I moved from Texas to California. Never looked back at that backward state with 110 degree weather. You can leave, you just know anywhere else sucks lmao

[@jpaul4788]

Taxes taxes homeless

[@rhuttrho88]

Stay there! You voted for it! You gotta lay in the bed you made!

[@UncElroyDaKang]

PLEASE LEAVE ASAP! CALI ONLY HAS ROOM LEFT FOR THE “PRETTY GIRLS”

[@4ft3rburn3r]

@@HeyItsAvi90 I have a good friend that was saying the same thing you were saying, who moved his family to Cali from Texas, but after about 5 years moved out of Cali to North Carolina. I also worked in the Bay Area for about 3 years and glad I got out of there. I also lived in Austin and I would still take that over the Bay Area although the Bay Area does have nice weather.

[@HellofromBaguio]

DROP THE HOUSE PRICES !!!

[@timtebowfan628]

I am from California but moved out in 2019. Without the rich California will tank.

[@edwardharley9]

top 1% pays 50% of the tax... what about AOC's tax the rich dress...?

[@vuerukozu5463]

I like the people that moved to Florida from California, keep them coming. Good honest people are always welcomed ☺️

[@pharoah1200]

Not moving anywhere that you can find a alligator in your backyard.

[@Coast2Coast88]

@@pharoah1200same. The snakes in Texas are no fun either. I’ll take CA thank you.

[@pharoah1200]

@Coast2Coast88 I ain't messin with no snakes. Florida is full snakes🐍

[@Irene94044]

@@pharoah1200 it’s not what you think

[@nayadedecumbe7407]

@@pharoah1200 three years in Florida still to see an alligator. However, while living in Monrovia I needed bear spray with me when taking my dogs out for walks