KTM 150 XC-W Review | Who this bike IS for and who it's NOT for

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@tbahry202
@tbahry202 5 жыл бұрын
Even if you're an old guy, 125's and 150's can be a lot of fun. I'm 71 and love my 2001 yz125. Unlike the KTM, the tranny is a close ratio six speed so there are no power gaps. I put a 35mm keihin PWK on it and advanced the timing (really improves the low-to-midrange) and it will pull up the front end easily at low speeds, even at lower rpm's - but you do need to unweight the front like a trials bike. Bikes like this are great for older guys who still like to ride aggressively, but can't handle the heavier bike's stresses on their aging bodies.
@bigballhair
@bigballhair 6 жыл бұрын
For a 125 lb rider in the woods, it is the BOMB!
@RobsNeighbor
@RobsNeighbor Ай бұрын
I am 44 and have ridden this bike. Its a blast. Going to keep working my face off 😊 great review!
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 6 жыл бұрын
Dropping the 200 from the lineup is the silliest thing they have ever done. That's the best two stroke motor I've ever ridden with
@obi-wankenobi9871
@obi-wankenobi9871 6 жыл бұрын
They might improve the 150 and 250s motors for the next year
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 6 жыл бұрын
KZbin User . They could leave just put a 200 engine again and be done with it. That was an amazing engine
@RedLightning
@RedLightning 6 жыл бұрын
actually they dropped it and picked up the husky te150. The 150 is actually better, the 200 does have a tad bit more power but they really improved the 150 so its almost not noticeable. Plus the weight difference is the big game changer. Tons of people started putting the 200 engines on a ktm 150 frame because they were saving like 13lbs or something like that, check it out.
@OifelOifel
@OifelOifel 6 жыл бұрын
There will be a Beta RR 200 in some time. I am pumped for it! :)
@cb72804
@cb72804 5 жыл бұрын
64maxpower have you ever ridden a 150? Trust me I have one it outdoes and 200 in the world bud
@JuanGonzalez-gd9nz
@JuanGonzalez-gd9nz 5 жыл бұрын
I am 57 and love this bike is so much lighter than my old 450.
@dwightcrapson1070
@dwightcrapson1070 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! This guy started these reviews a while back without a lot of knowledge about dirt bikes but he has been riding a lot, he is intelligent and has learned quickly. He is honest and very thorough, and has reached the point where experienced riders like myself who are interested in a particular bike, like I am in the 150xcw, can get a very good idea of what the bike is like. We cannot typically test new dirt bikes very well before we buy them so reviews like this are very important and valuable. After learning from his experience here I decided to stay with my 300xcw for now. He may have helped me avoid an expensive mistake. Well done sir, carry on.
@briansantefort
@briansantefort 7 жыл бұрын
One thing about the 2017 KTM150 XC-W is putting a set of Supermoto wheels on it and taking it too the go kart track. Absolute blast!
@gartht.562
@gartht.562 7 жыл бұрын
Great Review! I have owned a Husqvarna TE150 for one season I race hare scrambles around New England and trail ride with buddies. I have had many different bikes over the years XR600, TE510, KDX200, KLX650, KTM 250 XC-W and so on. I am around 5'7 155lbs and it fits me really well. If I tip over I can pick it up quick and get on my way with so much less of a struggle it feels light and it leaves me with more energy. You can't be afraid to get on the pipe and work the clutch, when you start to kicks it ass the bike really starts to come into it's own but you have to work it. I had a 2015 250 KTM XC-W, I was faster on it for sure but I also got into a lot more trouble because I would get lazy with my technique. This bike doesn't fatigue you with horsepower, to whiskey throttle or loop out means you are really on it. All in all it is a blast to ride and 150 can compete against a 300 depending on the type of terrain (obviously not in a flat out drag race). This bike out of the box does about 60-65mph a TE300 does right around 90. If you plan on tractoring around you won't have the grunt with this bike but if you're smooth pick good lines and keep up your momentum and balance it is easy to navigate through the most technical trails. I totally agree with Ernie who commented below about his KTM150 XC-W.
@64maxpower
@64maxpower 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a 53 vet A rider and that bike is for me!
@marklevert1400
@marklevert1400 6 жыл бұрын
I have been riding for 40 years. At close to 60 I just needed a competent woods bike that was flickable with decent suspension and power. The 150 covers things off well for me. I have had a few years on a husky 125 , this 150 is very easy to keep in the powerband. Surprisingly it hauls my 200lbs up hills that I used to have problems with, the electric start is golden! I just completed a two day trail ride in northern Ontario, the bike was excellent . It is a 150 so its not going to excel at sandy uphills, but I was surprised at the steep rocky hills this thing slithers up. For me, it has enough power to keep me smiling and not get hurt.
@IcemanSam650
@IcemanSam650 6 жыл бұрын
mark levert that's good to know 🤘
@RoyboyBean
@RoyboyBean 4 жыл бұрын
Mark, appreciate your comment, I’m your age and wanting to get back into the woods
@marklevert1400
@marklevert1400 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoyboyBean David, I have two shoulder replacements and two knee replacements. All I did with the bike is heavier springs and flex bars. I did put on a steering damper which was a waste. The motor is excellent, the bike handles well and I have zero issue with the suspension. most of the guys I ride with are on 300s or 450fs, I am rarely 15 seconds behind.
@thedirtbikegirl1564
@thedirtbikegirl1564 3 жыл бұрын
This has been the perfect bike for me. I’m 5’2” woman who is 120 pounds. I wanted a full size bike that was light!!! I love this bike!
@TammyHumeny
@TammyHumeny 3 жыл бұрын
Is this bike too tall for you? I'm 5'2 and wondering if 37inches is too tall for me.
@angelsiani7136
@angelsiani7136 10 ай бұрын
I'm 5'2" thinking and getting a 250 ☺️
@Isaak101
@Isaak101 14 күн бұрын
did you lower it?
@250txc
@250txc 7 жыл бұрын
He left out the older-riders who do not want a bigger, heavier, bike any more, might want this bike. The e-start fits right into this realm of rider also. Plus, it is a 150, what do you expect on the power side? If shifting gears is too much for you, you might wanna check-yourself. Maybe even change your pastime to something less demanding?
@ryanbernard6550
@ryanbernard6550 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree.. Old guys like to lug bikes and grab throttle when they get in trouble.. Which is why many get the 300 and just throw the green spring in it to mellow it out.. Newer 450s are also getting insanely light so that bottom end grunt is really nice for being lazy.. That two stroke powerband is rough for out of shape riders
@a64738
@a64738 6 жыл бұрын
The weight diference to the 300 is not really a issue and the 300 is better suited for slow riding specially with the green spring at the exhaust valve.
@darrenschmidt3260
@darrenschmidt3260 5 жыл бұрын
Im an old guy and love my plated 450 xc AND my 125 sx. Was expert dez rider last decsde.two differnt tools for differnt rides. The 150 is most likely next bike. Have had 200xcs in past. These are great lifting over obstacles ect....throw ego away and go have fun
@jseden
@jseden 4 жыл бұрын
For sure. I hate the mentality of smaller bikes being for kids.. im 32, been riding for 17 years and ride a 250 on the road. I like shifting and don’t really care much about speed. Low power bikes also teach you a lot about navigating around in traffic.. I've spent a lot of time on sub-100 cc bikes
@tjlovesrachel
@tjlovesrachel 4 жыл бұрын
Idk my 500excf is about mayyybe 20 pounds heavier
@gentlenudge4500
@gentlenudge4500 6 жыл бұрын
Great and spot on review Kyle. After a 15 year break from riding i was on the fence going straight into a 250 XCW, so I got this bike the week it shipped, and quickly earned the nickname Twitch among to all my 250/300 buddies because off all the gear switching and throttling. But for a rider at 5’10” and 155 lbs who likes to push it i couldn’t ask for a more playful and nimble full size ride ... I will say that even though you point out its more work to ride, after a 80-100 mile ride the bikes low weight makes up for the energy loss of the extra work. FYI: For Low end i went to a 53 rear sprocket, and jetted the carb with the largest possible, but going to take your advice and go for the RK-Tech Insert next. Tx for the detailed review. RideOn!
@richardwatts5969
@richardwatts5969 7 жыл бұрын
Good review. I have a 2018 KTM 150 XC-W, and have put over 1000 miles on it already here in West Virginia at Campbells Creek. I've had 300s, 250s, and 200s, and wouldn't go back to any of them. This is by far the best bike I've ever ridden. I can do everything on this bike that I could on any other bike, and feel that it's better in almost every situation.Our terrain is extreme singletrack and very steep hill climbs. The elevation is only about 1000 to 1500 feet though. I'll be testing it at higher elevations in Colorado in July. I'm only about 155 lbs., but am a very experienced rider. I honestly think it's a great bike for everyone from relative beginners to people with years of experience. It's just amazingly fun.I thought the one place it might lack would be the hill climbs, but that has turned out not to be the case. If you turn the throttle enough it screams up hills. I've actually scared myself a couple times.
@erniea1175
@erniea1175 7 жыл бұрын
Virtually identical experience here in the mountains of east TN Richard! I don't think it's possible to have any more fun on a dirtbike, and I climb all the hills I did on my bigger bikes. It's even easier on the 150 in most cases. The only hills that give it fits in my experience are long steep climbs with loose debris that require wheelspin. The little motor just does't have the oomph to keep the rear spinning in third gear. Always makes the climb, just gets a little slow after shifting to second. But heck, with all the time I make up everywhere else who cares!! I'm installing the RK Tek head this week, so hoping the added torque will help it pull a gear higher in many situations.
@ls1jeeper
@ls1jeeper 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Watts I used to live in WV rode Campbell's ck east Lynn cross lanes a lot.. been looking at a 150 .. Glad you like it👍
@miniaturefarmer464
@miniaturefarmer464 6 жыл бұрын
Spot on, Rich. This is a race bike and should be used as such. An alternative to a 250f.
@AdiCherryson
@AdiCherryson 6 жыл бұрын
@Richard Watts Hey, that's my weight! :) I have a very big dilemma what bike will be good for me for the first off-road bike. I'm 5 feet 8 and I'm seriously afraid to kill all the fun with too big a bike. I had LC4 640 supermoto and it was definitely too big for me. I cannot even imagine riding it any uphills (even on enduro wheels). Can you say how tall are you and do you maybe have some advice in that matter?
@RedLightning
@RedLightning 6 жыл бұрын
listerreg im right between 155 and 160lbs and im looking into getting a te150. about your height... i dont really think height matters what bike you get, just your weight. cuz a 250 is the exact same size. you know what i mean?
@chazman4461
@chazman4461 2 жыл бұрын
The older I get the more I appreciate the 150 and 200 full size bikes. I would race a 200 in a heart beat. It is all what works for you.
@danpage2589
@danpage2589 5 жыл бұрын
Loving mine always raced 125 motocross. Not ridden for 15 plus years got into enduro bought one these!! Amazing in the technical wood areas! Like he says just got to be ready on the clutch! But hey it’s a small cc two stroke! What’s new!!! Trust it’s plenty fast enough once there’s an open section!!
@mattdedasc
@mattdedasc 7 жыл бұрын
I used to race enduro on an Husqvarna 125 and it was all or nothing, but by the time you were high up in the mountains the power was gone. I like these, they make you work for it, very satisfying
@250txc
@250txc 7 жыл бұрын
That's how you learn how to actually ride and control a dirt bike.
@glencampbell8242
@glencampbell8242 4 жыл бұрын
Just got one for my wife. She’s 120 lbs and She loves it.
@MisterEMann-sd9iy
@MisterEMann-sd9iy 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Glen. How tall is your wife? I'm 5'8" and am wondering if the seat height will be a problem for me. It might be too tall for me.
@glencampbell8242
@glencampbell8242 4 жыл бұрын
She’s 5’3”. So I cut about 2” off the seat and lowered the suspension about 2”. If I were you just cut the seat down but first ride it and see if it fits you. I’m 6’3” and with it lowered I still love it.
@MisterEMann-sd9iy
@MisterEMann-sd9iy 4 жыл бұрын
@@glencampbell8242 Thanks Glen. Much appreciated.
@yoshuaposhua25
@yoshuaposhua25 3 жыл бұрын
What do y’all ride? Trails? Track?
@kekoahoffman6604
@kekoahoffman6604 3 ай бұрын
Was she pretty experienced? Thinking about what bike to get my girlfriend who’s just getting into it, she’s catching on super quick on the little Suzuki 125 4 stroke tho. Would love to get her a bike like this and never have to get a new one , I have a 24 300xcw. Just curious on the power difference if she won’t kill herself on it haha
@rhinoarmor2176
@rhinoarmor2176 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree that it’s a mistake to get rid of the kickstart. Back when I had my 2009 crf230, I was in the muddiest swamplike place ever and I stalled the bike. It turned out my battery died during the ride. I had to physically move it through deep ass mud and bump start it. A kickstarter would have been a life saver
@cosamuel7182
@cosamuel7182 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a 2012 200 XC owner who rides New England woods. This review sounded exactly like he was reviewing my bike. FWIW this is my first real "dirt bike". I'm a street rider who was new to the woods. The 200 catapulted my skill-set. Everyone I ride with has said so. Learning to ride the 200 in the woods has done wonders for my street, road-race and super-moto riding as well. I was really interested to hear Kyle praise the hydro clutch. I adore the hydro clutch (with MME lever) especially on this machine as it makes the clutch so effortless and predictable. My '12 has no battery and is kick-only. I just spent a week in West Virginia riding the Hatfield system. Normally I say these bikes kick so easily e-start isn't required. But when you made a mistake and flamed out at the bottom of a 2' deep rut.. well, I get it. I wasted a lot of my own energy kicking that lever. Energy the rest of my group didn't.
@vicweedhead3393
@vicweedhead3393 7 жыл бұрын
reviewing some old bikes by you is great idea
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 5 жыл бұрын
This video helped me make the decision to buy an '18 NOS 150 XC-W. Raced it in 2 enduros (2-days each) and then sent the suspension off to Kreft, also thanks to your videos. Oh... I'm 57 years old, too. Not old, though. ;)
@thomassanio8745
@thomassanio8745 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I am 58 and have risen all my life. but having always wanted a 300 XC-W I now realize the 150 might be perfect. My last bike was a CRF250X and I suspect this bike is even more nimble?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey Жыл бұрын
@@thomassanio8745 Oh my.... the 150 is FAR more nimble than a 250F (which I have had). I have since sold my 150xcw and taken over my son's 150sx (with an XC tank) and also bought a Husky TX 300. When we had 2-day races, I rode one on Day 1 and the other on Day 2. I also used LitPro data on an enduro loop. I'm faster on the 150 but a little more inconsistent. The 300 is nice for technical stuff but the 150 is so much fun in tight twisty stuff. I would, however, get linkage instead of the XCW non-linkage. Much more stable and the shock, being bigger, fades less.
@tannerfisher4892
@tannerfisher4892 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this video 3 years ago when I was riding a 105 dreaming of getting a big bike. This video helped me convince my dad this would be the perfect first big bike for me. About a year ago I picked up a 2020 KTM 150 XCW TPI and it’s been nothing but perfect and dreamy. I love the bike and can’t wait to compete more heavily on it. This video hit all of the main points on what the bike is all about
@lyokss
@lyokss 7 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I think it would be cool if you did a used budget bike build for us who can't afford a shiny new dirt bike. Review it before hand, set it up for trail riding and then do an after build review.
@dirtbikesicehockey4788
@dirtbikesicehockey4788 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review(s).
@ZSharkPH
@ZSharkPH 7 жыл бұрын
Finally you reviewed a bike that I didn't want to go run out and buy, after watching the vid :)
@micahnuckols5046
@micahnuckols5046 9 ай бұрын
I rented a 250 xc for my first ride on muddy trails and it did well, but I baby'd the throttle a lot. Being the first time riding any motorcycle and only having experience driving a manual roadster and riding a cross country bike on technical trails, I was learning how to work the clutch and control the throttle. That being said it wanted to take off on me just moving around the bike like I would on a mtb bike from whiskey throttle. It had way more power than I needed as a 37yo 6 ft 200lb man. We hit some 3 diamond trails were the majority of the riders got stuck on muddy singletrack hills. I had a few moments were my life flashed before a tree and a few spills, but all of my soreness is from just riding the bike or picking it back up.
@ruthlesschoy
@ruthlesschoy 5 жыл бұрын
i got one after watching the reviews and your right (xc model not xc-w but close to the same), takes a lot of clutch control and lots of gear changing, and ripping on the pipe. absolute blast, learning very quick i feel like, and the drama when your always trying to keep it up in the top end is tons of fun. never had more fun then on this baby
@taylor2105
@taylor2105 7 жыл бұрын
Before I even watch the video. I got to test ride that 150 and it was absolutely outstanding! I'd consider trading my 300 for it. It did everything so very well without exhausting me like the 300 did. I'd bet I'm faster on it because I'm not a top rider. I know my 300 is more bike than I am rider.
@250txc
@250txc 7 жыл бұрын
Right and sitting right between a 150 and 300, is a 250cc engine. It eliminates about all the 150cc lack-of-engine issues that come with a piston that is not much larger than a silver dollar. And eliminates all the too-much power and low end a 300cc bike has. And it starts as well as that small150 and much easier than a big-bore. 250cc bikes ruled in the days before the 4t era and for good reason. They are a almost perfect fit for most peoples riding.
@assi2assi
@assi2assi 6 жыл бұрын
just wrong the perfect middle is the 200 xc-w (exc) the 250 has nearly the same power as the 300 but lacks of torque on the low end the 200 is in between.more power and torque than the 150 less power and torque than the 250/300.and the 200 got the frame from the 125 and is lightweight a shame ktm stopped building the 200 (the 150 is basically the replacement for it)
@thomassanio8745
@thomassanio8745 Жыл бұрын
You are a wise man when you realize Less is more. Open desert, deep sand or extremely long climbs in the Mtns the larger bore has it but when the gong gets tight that nimble character always wins.
@taylor2105
@taylor2105 Жыл бұрын
@@thomassanio8745 I made that comment 5 years ago. I still feel the same way. I sold that gas gas 300 ec some time ago. I have a ktm 500 exc now. I still want that 150xc too some day. I'm realizing that road bikes are the same. I have just as much fun on a ttr125 supermoto as I do on my 500 on a track.
@erniea1175
@erniea1175 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Kyle! I've owned this bike for over a year, and I feel like you've given a good fair assessment. For guys who are considering this bike, I would like to raise a couple points: 1) I too thought the stock suspension was quite good in slower technical terrain. But I feel like it has 2 major flaws that you didn't mention. First, the fork compression clickers were just about useless on my bike. I could go 10 clicks in either direction and felt very little change in damping. Second, at higher speeds in rough terrain the bike felt very harsh and a little unbalanced to me. Both of these issues were totally fixed by my tuner (MVR), so in the end I couldn't be happier with the suspension. Just surprised you didn't experience these issues. At 180-185 lbs I'm at the upper limit for the springs, so perhaps this was a factor. However, those same stock springs are working beautifully with the new valving. 2) You mention that it's not a great choice for guys who want to ride easy. I would imagine this is spot on advice for guys who ride at your elevation and on some of the terrain I see in your vids. However, for guys in the east I don't think this advice necessarily applies. I find it to be a wonderful choice for trail "cruising". I've been on multiple 50+ mile mountain rides alongside highly experienced A-class riders and find I can maintain a fantastic pace without riding on the pipe. Granted, when we run into serious hills you gotta wick it up and get busy, but for most of the terrain it can be ridden in a surprisingly relaxed manner. The one caveat to that is, as you say, you do have to pay close attention to gear selection. 3) The bike came with ridiculously rich jetting, and until I fixed this issue I too felt extra effort was required to loft the front. But after getting it dialed I have no problem whatsoever lofting the front wheel anywhere at any time. Again, could altitude be an influence? 4) I've swapped bikes several times with a buddy who has a 250XC. The 150 doesn't feel overwhelmingly lighter at the truck or in open terrain. But at the end of the day (or even 1 fast harescramble lap!) the 150 feels about 50lbs lighter. I think it's as much a power thing as it is outright weight, and I think it also correlates to tightness of the trails. So again, in tighter eastern terrain it's a bigger factor.
@AdiCherryson
@AdiCherryson 6 жыл бұрын
@Ernie Allen, may I ask how tall are you?
@grey21hunter20
@grey21hunter20 6 жыл бұрын
Ernie Allen would u recommend this bike to someone getting into dirtbiking at the age of 17? Im somewhere around 65 kilograms and have no idea what im doing. Also, how expensive is this bike? I didnt catch that in the vid?
@coreymccaslin9144
@coreymccaslin9144 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the 150 sx since new 2016. It was a great bike. And you nailed it with light weight and plenty of power. To do a 100 miles and watch your buddies struggle on those big 500 KTM’s and husky’s and you feel like you are fresh off the truck is great. That little bike is amazing. I loved it.
@Mattsharona
@Mattsharona 3 жыл бұрын
That’s likely because of engine mass. Same thing with the Honda 250/450. Not a huge weight difference but riding the 450 feels much heavier
@6738
@6738 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a 150sx in the woods, absolute blast to ride and definitely teaches you proper throttle and clutch control. Also getting the front wheel up is super easy, getting the wheel up is more in the suspension then in the motor alone.
@tylerwallis5961
@tylerwallis5961 7 жыл бұрын
So kyle!! When is the 150 xcw give away??
@Cole56
@Cole56 7 жыл бұрын
I moved up from a KX100 to a KTM 250 XC-F and I love it.
@toddoverby5538
@toddoverby5538 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 48 and 150 lbs woods rider with average riding ability. I have a 2008 KTM 144 SX. Bought it new. There was no XCW at that time. The XCW was the bike I really needed. Had a 2004 125SX and loved it so I picked up the 144 / 150. The 144 was the 125 you always wanted. Out of the box the 144sx was unrideable in the woods until I had the suspension redone at Factory Connection, then it was the bomb. First thing you need to do is dial in the fork stops for tighter turning. For tight harescramble woods riding it kills it. Yes you have to change gears and rev high but it rewards you with a big smile and a head shake. Wow this thing will sing and move. Nothing is more fun than going around a 250F at rev. I'm 48 now and it still thrills me. I am at the point now where I can see a real benefit to electric start in the woods though. And maybe a bigger tank if you really stay in the gas on a harescramble although I have never run out of fuel in a harescramble (probably not pushing it hard enough) As far as hills go, first gear in the pipe will never let you down. Second gear requires more clutch and speed at the bottom. Come rolling out of a turn in second or third and use the clutch to get it in the power and it's a blast. If you can't clutch a two stroke, you may be in trouble. For me, that's where the fun is. Popping the front wheel in loose stuff and other situations takes practice. This bike will flat out run my buddies 200s up to any speed you may achieve in the woods or short straightaways. I am assuming they may get it on the top gear. From a dead stop in sand 1-4 gear, none of them can catch this bike. Granted, they have 30 lbs on me but that's their problem. HA ha. That being said if you were in the sand a lot , powering through deep sand does have its challenges with the smaller cc of this bike. I would have one of these if they weren't so damn expensive and I didn't like mine so damn much. If you are under 175 lbs and out to have fun on a bike and still have the energy to do it, the 150 is it. You may never find a good reason to go any bigger.
@scotth5089
@scotth5089 5 жыл бұрын
This bike is for anyone any skill level that is no more than 150 lbs. This bike is a blast!
@dakotanewman4443
@dakotanewman4443 7 жыл бұрын
You should review a cr500. It would be a nice unique change of pace from all of the newer bike. And as an owner of a yz125 this review is spot-on.
@simoncope2576
@simoncope2576 6 жыл бұрын
Cr 500 only good on drag strip
@wranglerstar
@wranglerstar 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you for the review.
@yamahapeanut44
@yamahapeanut44 3 жыл бұрын
You ride?
@briantrzebiatowski7873
@briantrzebiatowski7873 3 жыл бұрын
@@yamahapeanut44 Yes he does ride he rides a husqvarna te300i
@JMastr1
@JMastr1 Жыл бұрын
So is it a good entry level bike for a heavier adult 225lbs and are there upgrades to make it better power wise ????
@Stihlheadd
@Stihlheadd 7 жыл бұрын
I just transferred from a yz450f to a KTM 300 XC. Wow the 450 almost made me quit riding. It's just not meant for single track. I'm not sure if I would appreciate 150 but I would like a 200 to set up for Hare Scrambles!
@250txc
@250txc 7 жыл бұрын
I hear ya on a 450 is not a trail bike. Just imagine if all 2t bikes disappeared and we had only 250 or 450 4t bikes to ride. Sucks! Those 250cc 4t are really just gloried 125cc bikes and will run out of juice from the time to time. The 450 is big big hog out there. We rode with 1 guy who had a 450 on ST.... it was always just get out of his way or get run over. Needed a crane to pick it up sometimes. it was like nothing much could be accomplished easily on ST with that hulk of a bike.
@a64738
@a64738 6 жыл бұрын
The 450 and 500 are fun but they are not so good for single track... Just to much power that is hard to control even at low rpm. The 300 2 stroke has same or more horse power while at same time better control at low rpm, think that might be the perfect all round endure bike?
@blazers12369
@blazers12369 6 жыл бұрын
I just did the exact same thing except to the xcw
@victor-emmanuel7485
@victor-emmanuel7485 4 жыл бұрын
Re watching this as I’m considering one at the moment. Some of your best work Kyle 👍
@coreymccaslin9144
@coreymccaslin9144 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest you now go ride a 150 sx. Man I have had that bike in some really Knarly stuff and it did amazing. Yes it is lacking horse power for the low end . I had a tough time being able to use second gear. But that didn’t stop me from pushing it with 1st. I loved how lite the bike is. Really nimble and easy to ride. I added a 3.0 gal tank, kick stand, skid plate, and hand guards to give it that Xc feel. It did amazing. And yes you have to ride it like you stole it. But that’s what makes the 150 fun and make you feel like a kid again. Ringing it’s neck. It was a great bike. 84 hours on the meter and just went to its new home last Saturday.
@adambatchelder4121
@adambatchelder4121 7 жыл бұрын
A small bike is a fun thing and a great learning step that most guys skip these days.
@v4sdude191
@v4sdude191 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Batchelder yeah, they don't want to learn
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 7 жыл бұрын
Good review! Where's that lookout? Idaho?
@DirtBikes_MathGarden
@DirtBikes_MathGarden 7 жыл бұрын
blancolirio I'd like to know as well
@mason1375
@mason1375 6 жыл бұрын
I think I’ve been there and I think it’s in Cle Elum Washington
@scottpeters8640
@scottpeters8640 Жыл бұрын
Although these KTM 150's are fun and racy, I will always wonder why KTM dropped their amazing 200 models. That 200 cc is the sweet spot in off-road 2-stroke bikes.
@Logan-or5qw
@Logan-or5qw 6 жыл бұрын
I don't like to be on the pipe all the time. I had a problem with the pipe when I was younger. Now, I very seldom do it. The 300 would be a better ride for me.
@lucasbraga6123
@lucasbraga6123 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’m from Brazil and speak pt here, so en it’s not my mother language, what’s to be on pipe? Thx
@TroNPopz209
@TroNPopz209 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbraga6123 high rpm. hold the throttle down.
@lucasbraga6123
@lucasbraga6123 4 жыл бұрын
Nick_P.29 tks broooo
@TroNPopz209
@TroNPopz209 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbraga6123 no problem
@speedstylez1243
@speedstylez1243 5 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for my wife? She is about 5’5 120lbs. Love your channel and the info you provide. She is experienced and loves to ride, but she now wants to get more into the trails. She learned on a Honda crf 230 and honestly it was to heavy for her. My guess would be that this 150 would be perfect. Your opinion would be great. Thank you for all the great content your channel provides.
@thisisgds1
@thisisgds1 4 жыл бұрын
You're watching the bike you should buy her.
@chadcoady9025
@chadcoady9025 4 жыл бұрын
"This pipe doesn't dent as easy". Camera man zooms in on dent. :) I had a 2007 RM250 that I bought brand new off the showroom floor. I took it to the track and made about 3 laps to get the feel for it. I stopped to look over the bike for leaks or anything out of the ordinary, and the pipe already had a dent in it. I have no clue what I hit, but I didn't lay the bike down. Sometimes the pipes dent just looking at them.
@Mark-jz4dz
@Mark-jz4dz 7 жыл бұрын
Good review! Thank you for taking the time to review a smaller bore bike.
@carmane2894
@carmane2894 7 жыл бұрын
The old starting is the lithium battery. They don't work when cold and must be warmed up by trying to start and letting it sit like what is stated in the manual. They don't cold start like a lead acid battery
@Trad-Am
@Trad-Am 7 жыл бұрын
Another great comprehensive review. I'm more of that lazy rider. Where I just put my FE501 in 2nd and that torque will get you through almost anything. I ended up putting a rekluse auto on it(I know blasphemy) just because they stall so easy. Looking forward to getting the te300i when it comes out. Silky smooth hp/tq and no need for an auto clutch!
@gibellens1715
@gibellens1715 6 жыл бұрын
first ill start with the electric start BANG!
@SquadJunkies
@SquadJunkies 5 жыл бұрын
I am very new to enduro rider. Doing mostly tougher terrain with single track mixed it. Currently on a 18’ EXC-F 350 and looking to getting a bike I can manage power and weight wise. I am 5’7 130lbs (no gear). The 350 has done amazing for me I think. Just would be nice to go with a lighter bike for times I need to use my weight to maneuver or pick up the bike. Been looking into these 150s because of these reasons. But would it be worth it over the 300?
@bve7397
@bve7397 3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they changed to 150s, is because in europe (including myself) turn the 125s into supermotos for our a1 license. Now with the 150 we can't anymore :/
@hansschweikert9153
@hansschweikert9153 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous review! Concise and to the point. Thank you.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 4 жыл бұрын
50 hour piston life. Oil pump gets replaced at same time. carbed 150 makes more power than FI. Im curious about the 2023 Throttle body 150 XCW.
@chongorlz9716
@chongorlz9716 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I’m the guy who wants a play bike! My YZ450fx can be a bit of a hand full.
@BrianLampright913
@BrianLampright913 5 жыл бұрын
Chongo Rlz I finally went back to a 2 stroke after 10 years of riding and racing 450’s. My only regret is that I didn’t do it sooner. My Honda 450 collects dust while I’m having the time of my life on the new 300!
@briandavis4916
@briandavis4916 4 жыл бұрын
Old school guy on a budget tip for smaller bore engine low end performance. Drop a tooth or 2 on the countershaft sprocket and/or add a flywheel weight. Most people arent going to notice the loss of a few mph top speed and the low end improvement will be welcome. Not even Graham Jarvis is going 60-70mph thru the woods on single track or technical off road gnar.
@keithsokoloski8498
@keithsokoloski8498 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Just bought this exact bike for the wife and from what u say this should be a good fit for her. Now to wait the 4 to 5 months for the snow to melt here in northern Alberta lol
@shawn071
@shawn071 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle ..love your channel .. Like you said 150’s are for ages 12-16... off course your going to be revving the shit out of that bike .. I used to ride TT 175 when I was 18.. I blew the tranny trying to keep up with my friends on 250’s back in 91’😁 I have been riding a 07 CR 250 for 10 years now ..converting it into a off-road bike as of now .. putting a lectron carb on it ...3 gallon tank ..V force 3 reed valves .. 6oz flywheel and and 1 tooth up on the rear sprocket ..ordering a set of custom warp 3 rims 18” on the rear.. this summer going to take the head off and get it ported and polished .. I’ll keep you updated if your interested ? Thanks for all the great reviews 👍
@jackwhite8157
@jackwhite8157 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. I had a 2005 EXC 250 and it weighed 226lbs. Having a 250 is a do anything bike which would be better for the desert and still a great woods bike.
@jowenjv4463
@jowenjv4463 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your husky TE 250i Review ! This 150 is a nice little bike
@nicholasptolemy1231
@nicholasptolemy1231 7 жыл бұрын
Great, honest review Kyle!
@DirtbikerG63
@DirtbikerG63 7 ай бұрын
I’m 5’5 120lbs and looking between this or a 125. I normally ride fast but enjoy tight technical trails too.
@EddiNice
@EddiNice 7 жыл бұрын
Finaly a bike I am really interested in trying out. I already bought an EXC300SD 2016, so thanks to your EXC300 videos.
@mitchberger2691
@mitchberger2691 6 жыл бұрын
To get more low end, change to better reeds, sx insert for head and splitter in carb on engine side. Also slide needs cut to 5.75mm so can run a bit bigger pilot jet for more low end.
@adamrichards2072
@adamrichards2072 6 жыл бұрын
Hey kyle. I'm looking at buying a 200 exc (australia). Would be great to hear your thoughts on the 200 compared to the 150 and 250. I've been out of dirt bikes for 10 years after some major injuries.
@zandergarrone9269
@zandergarrone9269 6 жыл бұрын
I own a 2013 150 xc and the review on this seems a bit off I feel that at least the front end of the bike gets off the ground no matter what. It has enough low end to do stuff but not as much as a 250. Overall the bike is a fantastic and I recommend it 8/10
@charlesmiller7139
@charlesmiller7139 4 жыл бұрын
I like that. "This could be a play bike if you want to take a break from your bigger(, 10k bike) 250 or 300." Yeah cause we all have an additional roughly 10k for a play bike. 😆 like the channel, just found that pretty funny.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 7 жыл бұрын
Very good review and info. 👍
@250txc
@250txc 7 жыл бұрын
Right. Sounds like a good, typical 150cc powered bike with a new fangled e-start and some cool forks. That my friends, is the evolution path followed by bike manufactures since day 1 pretty much.
@collinpalmer7425
@collinpalmer7425 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of that trail at 5:30 where you mentioned going over 10,000 feet?
@rikashaw4815
@rikashaw4815 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you are surprised by the most essential off-road features that this bike has, even though this is the same bike that dominates the roof of Africa silver class I get that it's not for you, but it's an amazing bike Good vid, really enjoyed the insight
@scooter2202
@scooter2202 2 жыл бұрын
Currently have a 2023 kx250F debating on getting the Ktm 150 2 stroke to add to the collection 🤨
@PoorCoyotee
@PoorCoyotee 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even consider myself as a lazy rider as i like technical stuff and ripping the bike at its maximum, but hooolyy damn the 500exc goes like a tractor. I just love the torque and the fact that you can do anything you might wanna do on a bike, but still be able to cruise at 4th gear at the powerlines while laughing at your friend who is kicking the shit out of his shifter with a small bike. Goes really slow speeds with 4th but also can just pop the front up without the clutch if you please to do so and can rip faster than you can handle.
@mathewgeorge7103
@mathewgeorge7103 3 жыл бұрын
Is it a good bike for people getting into enduro?
@treysongz3495
@treysongz3495 5 жыл бұрын
looking into getting a 150sx found one for a good price good video i'm sold 💨
@armpump8980
@armpump8980 5 жыл бұрын
Trey Songz careful though, if you want to race that’s not the bike for you, you will be with the bigger bikes, trust me you don’t want that displacement disadvantage
@treysongz3495
@treysongz3495 5 жыл бұрын
no i was at a bike meet in miami and some older guy came over and we talked for a while ended up saying he had a mint 2015 ktm 150 in his garage and wanted to sell it
@Jeff-ni6kh
@Jeff-ni6kh 9 ай бұрын
What bike do you recommend for the lazy rider ? Beginner . Is this a good beginner adult bike ?
@cG-es8mb
@cG-es8mb Ай бұрын
How does this bike compare to a gas gas 125 enduro bike? I used to have one and it was a good bike.
@mcgyvr_kota208
@mcgyvr_kota208 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Kyle. First off thank you! You have really made me want to get into woods riding and single track. I have played 5 years and feel I mastered riding a 1982 atc 250r. Sense I sold it to a collector I have been out of riding for a year. Took my dirtbike out today for the season. 1982 Honda xl125s I don't mind shifting and not a big bulky guy so smaller light weight bikes are better. In your opinion do you think a 150xc-w would be good as a learner bike getting into single track. I ask because you mentioned it was meant for young new riders on a full size platform. Or someone who is changing pace. But is it for someone who can learn on a bike who has not had a lot of bike experience?
@JochyTV
@JochyTV 5 жыл бұрын
What about for a non experience rider?
@daytonlagrow4790
@daytonlagrow4790 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle, I really enjoy watching your videos. I have a 2017 150 xc w and I am wanting to put a lectron carb on my 150, I have heard the lectron didn’t run as crisp as people had wanted on the smaller bore two strokes. I have modified my air box and put the vforce 4R reeds in it, I was wondering if your 150 ran good with the lectron and if I should the $500 on it. Thanks for all the hard work and effort that goes into your videos.
@jvitorbr2
@jvitorbr2 2 ай бұрын
if you ride in mud, this bike is the best option? or the 250/300 is better?
@Johnn21
@Johnn21 3 жыл бұрын
Committed to the 2021 ktm 150xcw tpi. I’m so excited
@chrisrieger9201
@chrisrieger9201 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a good bike to putt around on in the woods that’s not heavy and still nimble in the woods
@tylernicholson5319
@tylernicholson5319 7 жыл бұрын
I found that the Odi V2 Rogue grips work well. They are thick enough, have good grip, but also have the simplicity of being lock-on grips.
@100LL81
@100LL81 3 жыл бұрын
You talked about not liking the gap between 2nd and 3rd gear. I’m curious why you chose the XCW model instead of the XC model? The XCW has a lower 1st and 2nd gear which would create that gap into 3rd.
@rdgsupafli
@rdgsupafli 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering is the 150 basically a beefed up 125? Because my son he only weighs like 108 rides a 250 but it’s a bit stiffer for him because he is so small and I was told he needs a 125 because it fits him better but I want to get him something he will grow into he’s only 14 so I was thinking a 150 with all the bells and whistles for trail riding. But he also likes to race.
@aaron___6014
@aaron___6014 2 жыл бұрын
Does the XC and XCW line get longer top end intervals in general when compare to a SX? Or is it more a factor of cc's?
@dover1
@dover1 6 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Husqvarna TE150? I know KTM and Husqvarna are jointly owned but not sure the similarities and differences between the bikes?
@chrisrieger9201
@chrisrieger9201 4 жыл бұрын
Question- I’m looking for a woods bike. I don’t race thru woods, I don’t tackle much hard trails, mostly easy terrain. The last bike I had was a Honda 06 cr85 expert. I could touch the ground, it had plenty of power for the trail riding I encountered, it was a good fit except the bike was a little small for me frame wise. There wasn’t a whole lot of room left between my knees and the handle bars. I’m 5’7”, 190#, 53 years old. I know it sounds unusual for my size on a small bike, but going up to a cr125 or equivalent I just can’t touch the ground and this makes it just to difficult to ride these bikes in the woods. Any suggestions on I biked that be enjoyable that fit my style of riding.
@kiddicool4616
@kiddicool4616 3 жыл бұрын
Is this good for a country kid that wants a 2stroke with lights and an e start and I'm coming off a 2007 rm125. I like to ride around the countryside and wheelie and sometimes rip on a beach
@scotthertzing3243
@scotthertzing3243 6 жыл бұрын
Great honest review!
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2018 150 SX and it does it all!
@evltwin984
@evltwin984 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate do you think the ktm 150 engine would make a good transplant for a 125 raptor quad ?? Tryn to go light & powerful as poss & gota be a smoker. Just for a fun flat track style dirt drifter. No climbing or real jumping. Enough low end for me you think? , im only 75kg. And the quad with orig 4stroke is 135kg. To heavy all up??Or do i have to 250 it? Appreciate any advice. Cheers from new zealand
@kyzxoyt9369
@kyzxoyt9369 Жыл бұрын
I’m 15 I got a 85 2 stroke I’m not the tallest at 5’6 and I’m trying to find a bike I will be comfortable and able to grow and continue on I’m thinking a 125 or to just go on to bigger with a 250f or 150 2 stroke what is my best course of action
@dakotapettit4544
@dakotapettit4544 3 жыл бұрын
So I’m new to trail riding. I’m 6’2, 195lbs and I already have. Yz250f for track. I want a fun bike to whip around in open and technical trails in the upper Wisconsin/Minnesota area. Is the 125 XC better than the 150 XC-W? Also am I simply too heavy for both? I’m not doing any intense mountain stuff. Or is the 250 XC better or even the Beta 200rr?
@tyleredwards4426
@tyleredwards4426 Жыл бұрын
I'm over 250lbs. I've been riding high hp street bikes since I was young. My question: a 300 two stroke makes roughly 48 hp. A 450 makes 55 ish. Is that 7 hp really that big of a difference?
@breckboy654
@breckboy654 Жыл бұрын
Yes there is a difference but the 300 is lighter also. You also need to take in to account the difference in the way the power is delivered. The 450 has so much low end. The 300 has a lot of low end for a two stroke but not as much as the 450
@Cooldibs
@Cooldibs 2 жыл бұрын
Would you say a beginner would be a good candidate for this bike?
@paultselembis4255
@paultselembis4255 4 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are excellent!!..
@mje19D
@mje19D 6 жыл бұрын
Great review man!
@jasoncornett7948
@jasoncornett7948 5 жыл бұрын
What bike would you recommend for a 12 year beginner. He has KLX140 now and he wants to go up. What’s a good bike?
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