KTM XC vs XC-W vs EXC What is the difference?

[@maxmartin-merrells3723]

This guy is a machine. Great presenting skills and nice to have the exc and xcw misconception cleared up. Subscribed.

[@WomensRightsROFL]

1 hr of googling this subject didn't give me half the info you did in this quick video. Thank you sir

[@CoolEyeColorado]

Great explanation! Thanks for the info and clear explanation. On another note have you ever done an overview of height (seat height , rider height) for all these different brand bikes you ride/own? Those would be good videos also.

[@kelldog44]

Yo man I just wanted to say I've been a subscriber for over a year, you were a lot smaller channel back then! Awesome to see how you've grown into the go to channel for dirtbike information and single track/enduro riding.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Thanks for sticking around!

[@kendrickcarvajalguzman821]

Dude you're doing such a great job with these videos. I've enjoyed all of them because you provide us with real useable information about the things we really need as riders. Keep up the good work and hope your good as new from your knee injury ✊ braaapp

[@The_Real_Fearless]

oh okay thanks, im in australia and have a 250 exc and was trying to look for vids and keept seeing xc w

[@bakwheeltango18]

so the XCW - with the lower 1st and 2nd gear - you're probably less likely to stall in the slower harder single track trails. Thanks for this video. I just bought a preowned 2009 200 XCW.

[@lukegodbout]

Does anyone know how I can make my 250sx have slower gears. I’m not ready to give up track but I enjoy enduro. I’m on the clutch 99% of the time in single track. All my buddy’s with xc’s barely ride the clutch. Just smaller sprockets?

[@jwill540]

I would go 1 tooth smaller on the front.

[@joesph9748]

Kyle great videos and info. I am picking up a 2019 KTM 300 XC-F TPI next week. It was a tough choice deciding between this bike and the XC. Your videos definitely helped. I am coming off a 450WR, hoping the xcf hits hard enough out of the hole. I ride mostly trails - classify myself as a beginner to intermediate rider but want to get better.

[@hendrikkruk7268]

Kyle looks like a real friend, like the type of guy you'd meet on the trail and like up with, great videos he's turned me into a ktm man

[@SonnyVator]

Thanks for the info, these 300 xc w are being offered at a good price right now that being said its the 2018 non fuel injected, whats your thoughts on this 300 xc w for hill climbs vs the xc,

[@mikeybstunts]

Xc all the way. For an aggressive rider anyways

[@FELiPES101]

2:20 Kyle be honest, how many times have you actually skinned a cat?...

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'll never tell!

[@ridetilldead3164]

Very nice clean bike man I'm just got my bike 2019 KTM exc 300tpi in aussie.thxs for sharing the difference between each bike .r u ready to swing the leg over yet.

[@rebelliontotyrantsisobedie5602]

Kyle, how would you rate (1-10) both the 2020 XC and XCW in the following categories; overall suspension compliance (1-10) ; suspension ability to absorb the technical stuff (1-10); engine ability to deliver smooth controllable power (1-10) , Overall rating of the each bike best all arounder (1-10).... thanks for your time:)

[@PoppaWheelies]

Ktm’s are so beautiful. I’ve owned Honda, yamaha and Kawasaki only my entire life for bikes , always coveted KTMS. I’m shopping for one now .

[@aidangillett5396]

Even ignoring the aesthetics, KTM's and Bergs are just much, much better bikes to tune, work on and maintain. It's blatantly obvious that KTM's were designed with some sensible engineering decisions vs the Japanese bikes that focus more on finding the exact right fastener for every single bolt hole = 423489107465981623498173 different bolts and a hell of a lot more time to do anything with them Pulling anything out of a KTM is very easy to do, and its such a pleasure to work on. PDS shocks come out in 2 bolts, thats it. You don't have to strip half the damn bike off the frame to get it out. Parts are vastly interchangeable across the board, for instance the exact same rims/hubs/bearings/spacers are used for the entire full size lineup from 125 to 500 (and even many of the adventure bikes) across years from ~2003 to 2017 I believe (with only small differences before and after that, which you can use adapters), because why the hell change it every couple years and every model like the japs do? Just engineer it PROPERLY once, and then use it over and over again. Makes parts super easy to find and very cheap 2nd hand Almost all fasteners where reasonable are the same size meaning you only need a very small toolkit to work on the entire bike etc

[@MrBriansAmazingWorld]

Love the EXC prior to 07 before they were street legal and you had to convert them for the street. Nothing like it.

[@tailopez5106]

I honestly like the xcw because of the headlight and useful that could be

[@kungfucommando1642]

The problem with headlights on dirt bikes is, the front fender casts a shadow right where you need light the most.

[@seller2001]

great explanation of the differences between these bikes! KTM should definitely hire you.

[@aquaticterrafirma]

My 2009 400 XC-W is street legal, even has the California emissions tag on it.

[@hard.enduro]

my friend has ktm exc 300 2019 and its Complitly same as yours

[@jasonrees6012]

NICE PRESENTATION .YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW YOUR PRODUCT . YOU TALK WAAAAAYYYYY TOO FAST FOR ME . I CAN'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE LETTER X AND E . You're smart , I can tell .But I personally go to You Tube so I can stop , and rewind . Have you ever taken a writing course at your local college ?? You could be very effective . . I'm going to subscribe .

[@RacerRed]

I prefer the wide ratio transmission, headlight, tailight, trip meter, linkage suspension, and a carburetor! 2018 Husqvarna TE250 was juuuuust right for me. Love my bike!

[@jaredc3570]

I just swooped up a left over 18 XCW 250, Loving it! I got it for $6200 before fees and taxes.

[@uknowwho613]

@@jaredc3570 where did you find that deal?!

[@jaredc3570]

Ride Now Tricities middle of December 2018 @@uknowwho613

[@uncledaddy6299]

Great video thanks! You have one comparing the 2022 wr250f vs the yz250fx by chance? Thanks in advance

[@Jmastroni1981]

2022 husky tc250 a good bike for trail riding you think?

[@richardcurtis1356]

You did not talk about the exc

[@bikez7641]

Isnt the seat height different?

[@outbackenduro7418]

Great channel, good work on such diverse topics.

[@jayppop3333]

Damn I want a tpi now I'm to late haha

[@Gabasto]

so is the xc w street legal in the uk and also is it avalible with eletric starter because im thinking of creating a supermoto

[@racerx9223]

The logical thing to do would be to find the median between second and fourth gear and put that as the ratio for third gear!!! 😁

[@SimonBambrough]

Within 1:30 you gave me the answer to my question that I was struggling to find anywhere else. This is how all videos should be and thank you dude. I stayed and watched the rest of the video because I liked this and your other videos so much. I've subscribed :)

[@jeremys4705]

Good breakdown. On a side note for the shorter riders, such as myself, the linkage makes the bike sit quite a bit lower than the PDS so that is huge for me. I put the short seat on it and didn't touch anything else. A few of my previous KTM's I have had lowered due to my height and injuries and the suspension was never right. I currently have a 2017 Husky TX300 with about 210 hours on it, it's basically the same as the 300xc save a few small things. I am loving the air fork, it's also the first fork I haven't had to valve for my lighter weight. I run it at 123-127 psi. 123 for slow speed technical and 127 for desert and more open riding. Almost everyone I ride with has the XCW 6 Days or "regular" XCW and it's too tall for me when we swap bikes. The gearing is noticeably different and less gap which I prefer. I am generally in 3rd when XCW's are in 2. I am 5'9" and under 150 lbs.

[@jeremys4705]

PS Those on an XCW with RK head and/or map can also pull 3rd instead of 2nd in the same terrain.

[@duken4evr]

Nice video! I agree about the trans. My preference is also the XC trans, 1st is actually a little low on the "W" even in gnarly stuff, making it easier to get on the pipe and spin when you wanna grunt it. The 300 has so much grunt that it pulls the slightly taller XC 1st gear just fine in the gnar. An owner can always gear the XC down a little if 1st is too tall also. These 300s are great bikes either way - they are favorite I have ever owned. Selling my '13 TE 300 (XC-W) and just bought and '18 XC. The new e-start and counter balancer are awesome! :)

[@ЛукаЖивковић-я5п]

Bruh in my country KTMs are only EXC and SX

[@clarkfamilyadventuretours5052]

I'm still trying to find the difference between the street legal 250 exc-f and the 250 xc....just street legal stuff?

[@jacekdomagala1179]

Clark Family Adventure Tours Excf is the same as xcw f they both same , just Excf is the street legal wersion. Same suspension , same gearing lights etc. Just the Xc is diffrent.

[@marc-andrebourgoin7907]

Just bought a xc300 and i love it best brand of bikes for sure

[@clappedcorsac1024]

Would love to enter but I live in South Africa :( love your vids btw and my name is Kyle too

[@lixtee4447]

I am from KZN South Africa

[@aaronvanrensburgcom]

& I’m from cpt

[@clappedcorsac1024]

My bike has been Siezed for a year.. I'd love to win something like this. It would be the greatest thing

[@jaredpollock4297]

That bike puts my Yamaha RT 100 to shame

[@Justen1980]

I had an rt100 in middle school. Its a bad ass little two stroke!

[@YzBlue777]

i had one when i was 10 i bought another one at 29

[@enduro-parts-aus]

My first bike was a rt 100 absolute weapon ☺️

[@samsmith6161]

I came here for the exc but you didn't say a single thing about the difference

[@Aprikuusi2003]

can someone explain difference dont feel like watching a 10 minute video because someguy talks too much

[@UsuallyOff]

OriginalMe KTM Xc stands for cross country for wide open dessert but if you track race than the xcw is better because they are built for going from fast to slow very often

[@jpesicka492]

I learned I dont need XC-W but I didn't get a great read of difference between XC and EXC in US.

[@Traverdale]

I could be wrong but I think when i was researching before buying my 18 300 XC-W. The fork rake as slightly more with the XC-W

[@jimbodini100]

You didn't get to the exc.

[@equalizer4633]

Hey Kyle, could you try the BRC Racing 500cc kit for the ktm 250/300? I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on a big 500 and how it works on that bike.

[@georgehuffert5157]

You need a nice fat wallet for that mod but I think it would be the best 500 ever since they haven't been any new technology on them since 1989

[@jpesicka492]

BRC for Yamaha YZ250 ya but but I would stick with the KTM catalog kit for it I didn't know BRC made one for KTM..

[@kencampbell4719]

Could anyone tell me if the xc models are street legal in canada

[@AdrianEmbrey1979]

Sorry for the dumb question but what is singletrack actually mean

[@erosfleming2911]

Xc= Motorcross= Trail Riding - Closer gears... lower bracketed suspension XCW = Endouro = Offroad - Widest Gears... Higher Suspension

[@justinlloyd9342]

The exc line was off road only back in the 90’s they didn’t start calling them xc’s and xcw’s in the 2000’s

[@Gixvon]

Man do I want that bike

[@DirtBikeChannel]

I'd love to ride it too. All in good time.

[@jcdiver522]

Great video! Just entered the contest, fingers crossed! Just bought my first dirtbike last summer. A 2008 Yamaha ttr230, nothing special but figured it was somewhere to start. Not knowing a ton about dirtbikes when I was looking for my first one I didn’t know too much about 2 strokes and thought they were more about being on the pipe and riding balls to the wall. I’ve learned a lot about dirt bikes in general and have seen how versatile 2 strokes really are. My riding style isn’t too fast (yet) and after watching many of your videos I’ve thought a 300 xcw would be right up my alley one day.

[@jessederossett1484]

I dont believe you said the difference for exc

[@madman432000]

I am considering an XC and gear it down if I didn't like the first and second ratios after riding for a bit, they are a good bit lighter that the EXC and XCW lines, and since I'm riding offroad only with it and not wide open terrain, mostly single track mountain and forest trails....might be a good pairing with my 500exc.

[@davidtheys6000]

I live in Belguim Europe Exc doesn't have linkage here but PDS.. I like linkage more that is why I don't ride Ktm. Big difference in acceleration PDS the suspension will lift the bike and traction is less, but better to clear obstacles In linkage the bike lowers in acceleration more traction, that's also why used in MX .

[@masonlawson5816]

Do they have the same plastics ?

[@SkinnySkinch]

Aren't all EXC's street legal? International or not? So that would be the difference in the two and why KTM uses both names when they really are the same exact bike other than that street plate.

[@ktmers]

In the U.S. EXC's a four stroke street legal bikes. In Europe , Australia and other places EXC's are 2 stroke enduro bikes equal to the U.S. XCW. Over there the EXC (U.S. XCW's) come with blinkers, horn and other street gear. There are no XC's in Europe, Australia etc. etc.

[@SkinnySkinch]

understood thanks man! I think the only reason we only get 4 stroke EXCs is bc those are the only bikes that pass the emissions standards in the US particularly California where a large portion of bike sales in the US are from what I understand. If the 2 strokes could pass our emissions I think we'd also have the 2 stroke street legal models. I do know of a couple guys getting lucky with their XCW's and getting them plated here in Virginia. There are other states that make it easy too.

[@mixalis6168]

All KTM enduro in Australia are EXC, 4 or 2 stroke ! road registered

[@enduronorthnz6437]

we get exc and xc in NZ not sure why they have not gone to aus yet , exc 2 stroke here dont "come " street legal , you do get all the stuff in a box and can choose what you want to do after

[@SkinnySkinch]

gotcha makes sense. I wish we got the 2 strokes street legal capable. You basically have to TRICK our DMV into thinking the bike is an actual MOTORCYCLE and not an off road use only dirt bike in order to get a street legal plate for it. then you would of course have to add the mirrors and turn signals in some states. Some states here allow hand signals only and turn signals aren't required to have on the bike in order to be street legal, only 1 mirror is required. weird. I would LOVE to ride NZ one day. I lived in Brisbane for about 6 months and met a bunch of kiwis and all they talked about was how great the riding is over in NZ

[@matthews852]

Fuck I wish we could have 2 stroke street legal enduros in the states. Australians are so lucky. Kangaroos AND 2 stroke street legal KTMs. What more could you want?!

[@dmelson7502]

Hope your recovery is going well, I broke a foot a few years back and feel your pain. Thought I'd mention that I don't play the lottery or buy scratch off tickets but I have bought one of your t-shirts... and I plan on flying your flag down at this weekend's Budd's Creek Nationals. Any chance that could be worth another entry? Lol! Just kidding. Usually the only gambling I do is riding my EXC 350 with no health insurance...

[@stihlms]

I would buy another KTM if they put a linkage on it. Or give me an xc with lights and wide ratio trans.

[@zane4964]

I've got a solution for you... husqvarnas TE models... it's a ktm with different plastics

[@micaKTM1290]

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would they put a 'wide ratio' on a bike then make 1st and 2d close. And if gears 3-6 are the same, what makes the W wide ratio, it sounds like it is more closed than the XC.

[@ethanhaskins6634]

Which one is faster

[@geraldjones4126]

At some point the motorcycle will turn all components...fork, chassis, swing arm...will become battery packs!!!

[@Biscotticustoms]

Just got a 07 450 XC-W with exhaust and Lectron carb for under 2k my first ever KTM thanks for the info.

[@johnykryll]

KTM are worse than Harley. They're different in different countries, here in the UK EXCF has no ignition barrel or kill switch

[@richardstremlow6075]

I’ve been wanting to hear the difference

[@somelols6989]

I'm from the UK I've never seen that linkage on the swingarm ever

[@Darco712]

does anyone know if ktm sells XC model in Europe? i have searched for second hand ones and didn't find anything. i'm a hard enduro rider but i would like the xc because of the linkage, front suspension. and also i think that the xc should be a little lighter than the exc.

[@whatjakedoes4228]

So is the 2016 ktm 250 exc the same as a ktm 250 xc-w? Can they be street legal is that why they have the place for a license plate?

[@streetrage8694]

What is the equivalent to a ktm 200 exc I haven't had a bike for awhile and the 200 was the shit for trials back when I used to ride?

[@lilpacman204]

Good evening have a question and your opinion which engine would be compatible to the gas gas Ec 300

[@jordanB472]

Not to brag but I "liked" this video from 5.9K to 6K...no need to thank me :)

[@digexcavation365]

Didnt say anything about exc

[@ThomasNo1]

KTM 250 XC , are the 2017 , 18 , and 19 pretty much the same bike ???? We’re there any big changes ????

[@BrandonBigB956]

I bough a 300xc-w for the wide ratio and the rear shock simplicity.

[@sideshowbob5813]

My local KTM shop owner told me the xc's are built with mx engines, 300 being a bored out 250 to get more top end than a normal exc or xc/w. Also, to the guy that says you don't get certain bikes in certain places, you get them all in Europe, not sure about Australia n that but check their websites. Where it says something like ktmmotorcycles/eu change the eu to en and it will show you a bunch of different bikes. They've got different websites for different places. If I had to choose one it would be the XC 250 but I can see why you might want a 300!? The exc's and xc\w's above 150cc are inferior bikes to the xc's in my opinion. But that's just my opinion!!?

[@sideshowbob5813]

You also get the same suspension as the 250 SX bikes probably just set up a bit differently!? AER 48 forks and a linkage shock.

[@jetdr]

Friend of mine has a 200 xc-w it is a sweet machine. Maybe 200lbs. Only thing I didn’t like was the Pipe went way down low towards the ground. Easy to dent

[@divestar1]

Perfect explanation. The 250 xc seems to be the all-around dream bike. But here in Greece no one ,and I mean NOONE ,knows the existence of the pure XC line. Not even the sellers. Where could I find one? (And Not pay for the transfer from states 😏) Also ,great work dude. I’ve seen all your vids ,and they’re great! Thank you 🙏🏾

[@gilvietor1918]

The ratio gear issue he is talking about is easy to explain this way... You have a tight corner before a huge hill climb and you can only do 2nd gear but the pull is long on the hill. My Te250i husky tpi bike had problems sometimes in those areas but man could it go through tight stuff with ease. My guess is a 300 would have done better in that sudden hill climb scenario. I'm sure Kyle knows the trail I am talking about up by Strawberry Reservoir, I believe it is 310?

[@reaper9557]

Basically exc/xc-w is for enduro and xc for mx

[@dylanjamesweggz3573]

I know it’s an older model but difference between EXC-W and WCW?

[@chillozz1]

those socks and cap are very nice :D but still only for the USA.... thats so bad/sad.... whe in europe doenst count there in amerika ?? :( :( :(

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

chillozz1 We still love you Europe 😀. The postal service hates all of us. Lol.

[@rellik53977]

what would be the best street legal bike for tight single track but could also pop on the track and from time to time? was looking at the ktm 350 exc but have been venturing towards a 300 or even 250 two stroke

[@JAVTROOPER]

How about the horse power ? Is it the same?

[@BrigT262]

What year did they start making the counter balanced motors? My last 2003 300XC would vibrate so bad, it was hard to walk after a fairly long ride. (feet buzzing) Thanks for the super great videos!

[@kevinoneil6032]

2017

[@astromann7449]

Linkage works better for fast guys in racing - its less prone to packing and kicking in faster trail whoops. Linkage makes the shock handle wider variety of conditions without revalving it. This was more obvious in the older KTM's. Fast guys with a PDS (no link) often have to re-valve for their preferred area (which is why it sucks). Give me a XC with softer valving and lighting. Or a XCW with linkage. Not fast ? .......then it wont really matter as much.

[@aido_supermoto]

Great explanation! Loving the way you are still finding ways to make videos while in recovery. Shame I can’t enter for the bike coming from Australia, all the merch is so nice, love the socks

[@BarrieEthel]

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[@_kevviiin882]

Got the 125 exc 1999, Im rebuilding it rn, but it takes sooooo long :/ But its still fun :DDDD

[@AndrewBoundy]

Thanks for this - perfect explanation.

[@jed8five897]

In Aus we get sx (Track bike) ,xc(Track bike) and exc (complianced for road) . sx is motocross , xc is basicly a mx bike with enduro aditions an 18 inch rear wheel and clear tank aimed for enduro racing ,and exc is the only street legal version .neither sx and xc are Adr approved street legal cant be riden on any puplic road tar or dirt. This applies to both 4 and 2 strokes.

[@WujPatrzalek]

Thanks for explanation, I really needed it ;)

[@alandraper9843]

You are the reason I’m going to pick up my new X CW 300 Saturday can’t wait to throw a leg over it i’ll be asking you other questions too I weigh 200 pounds in my birthday suit any suggestions on the set up

[@brendanmccarthy7063]

Appreciate you making videos while in recovery

[@DirtBikeChannel]

What else would I do with my time?

[@brendanmccarthy7063]

Dirt Bike Channel fair enough but seriously your video's have helped me in more than one situation already keep it up thank you

[@drewr5171]

“Bump compliant”

[@pathetic_bot9476]

And...

[@kraigvanderwyk2443]

Hey Kyle , just ordered my shirt. Can’t wait till I win your bike. Also just subscribed, been watching all your videos for ever, all this time I thought I was already subed.

[@shaydenadams270]

did you win ?

[@harleyosterlund5796]

Can you add a headlight and tail light to the xc line?

[@RuthRobinson-g8y]

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[@williamquick6153]

Good info. Easier said, the xc-w is more for enduro riding/racing and xc is more single track racing/jumping

[@josephpistone5915]

more KTM exc bikes and 2020 Sherco, 2020 Serco, 2020 Sherco 300's two stroke stroke stroke bikes, Please !!!!!!!lol,

[@jdnagel7121]

What’s up Kyle !! Some good info you are sharing so thank you but i would love to see you do a maintenance/settings/ do and don’t Video on the 2022 xc w 250tpi .

[@Erik-rp1hi]

I have and older 300exc and now I bought a new 300XC, 2016 model. Calif. desert is good for both but maybe the XC will be funner?

[@juanjogiorgis1856]

Great video, thank!

[@nomadnomad8571]

My W appears to have more clearance than my xcf. The travel may or may not be greater but it appears to have a clearance advantage. I have a 350 xcf-w and an 450 xcf. 2021.