KTM 790 Duke - Long term review

[@szymonchalupka]

I bought this bike after this review and couple others. After owning it for around 1,5 years I cannot be happier with it. It's so much fun, it is great for commuting, weekend trips and occasional track days. I was thinking what could be my next bike but I can see no competition for 790.

[@beans4269]

What about the new 890r?

[@xhale111]

Any reliability issues so far? Considering the 790 Duke or the MT-09 for my next bike but leaning towards the latter :-|

[@szymonchalupka]

@@xhale111 after two seasons I sold my 790 to my friend and bought Aprilia RS660. Never had any issues with KTM and it is still running fine. My RS60 died after 1600 kilometres and it has been waiting more than 3 months now for the exhaust valves replacement because there are no spare parts available. Before, I test rode 890R for couple of days and I really regret choosing RS660 over 890R. 890R is much more refined, it has more power and better handling. I just felt in love with the looks of Italian Supermodel... stupid :)

[@xhale111]

@@szymonchalupka sorry to hear about your decision... Appreciate the lengthy reply though... Just trying to get real feedback from people that actually owned the 790... So far it seems reliability is a lot better than others will make u think

[@szymonchalupka]

​@@xhale111 I think it is a matter of new bike. I was just lucky with 790 and quite unlucky with Aprilia but there are people riding RS660 without any issues. But 790 was great do it all bike. I could easily commute, do weekend trips and attend trackdays few times per year. Even do some gravel road on rare occasions :-) I compared it with my friend's MT09 which is also great package but I preferred the character of KTM.

[@davidt343]

The right angle vales on the rims, should be a standard in today modern bike age.

[@dbtrackz33]

David T first thing I do upon first tire change on any bike.

[@renynzea]

Should definitely be standard on the Kawasaki Z900RS. Had a bear of a time getting a straight chuck on my rims first time I checked the pressure. The spokes on the rims are on the small side. Had to order a right angle chuck for my air gauge.

[@MrLou8888]

Right angle valve extensions available from most bike parts suppliers for less than $10.00 U.S. REVZILLA or CYCLEGEAR.

[@scotteger6271]

This is why I bought a small electric air pump...has a bicycle tire pump type end on it and can get it in very small places, even scooter rims.

[@NZbird]

Thanks so much for such a comprehensive review. I'm a 71 year old, same height as you. Currently riding a Suzuki GSX-S1000 in NZ. Looking for a lighter bike as I age and the 790 seems to tick all the boxes for what I need. Might need to fit slightly lower pegs on account of knee damage but that should be straightforward - did it on the Suzuki.

[@NZbird]

Have now bought one and adore it. 1500 km review here: geoffjames.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-scalpel-one-month-and-1500-km-down.html . Many thanks for putting me on the path to ownership!

[@tomquinn607]

@@NZbird Great blog! I'll be 70 in Oct. and am buying a new bike for my birthday. Was thinking GSXS 750 but now you have me thinking KTM 790.

[@meltonrobbo]

@@NZbird Great blog site. I also have seen you on the 790 forum. For a 71 yr old I applaud you... mind, I am fast catching you up and still I think I am 24.

[@NZbird]

@@meltonrobbo. Thanks for the kind words Robert. It's bikes like the Duke 790 that keep us young. My wife says it's like living with a 5 year old 😁. Safe riding!

[@NZbird]

@@tomquinn607 . Hi Tom - sorry, have only just seen your post. I hope that you ended up buying a 790 and love it to bits!

[@love4steel]

maybe the best reviewer Ive seen. when I watch motorcycle videos as research before purchasing.. I've always wished they would show me the headlight at night. finally someone gets it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to help!

[@CreepyLemon25]

Prolly the best review ive watched in youtube so far. Very informative. Kudos!!!

[@TheSwissMotard]

"The quickshifter..." *zooms in on rear brake* :p

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

:0)

[@Quijibo13]

;D

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

Didn't go unnoticed

[@AndalusianPrince]

Pretty sure that's the quickshifter.

[@MrStr8den]

Zero your oddometer when you next fill her to the brim - ride at your leisure/pace then refuel - take note of how many litres until brimmed again, then convert to gallons by dividing the amount of litres by 4.546.... finally you can now divide your 'new gallons' figure into your new oddometer reading, this will give a true average mpg - if this method doesn't work for you just pass me those keys!

[@ctclothbagco]

I've got a spreadsheet and graph for mine, always brim it and reset the mileage. Over the course of 10k miles I've seen my mpg go from around 57 to 70ish on my CB650F

[@F4Effort]

I don’t know why I see so many complaints about the KTM styling, especially the headlights, personally I think they look great! Currently own a 2017 390 Duke, saving long term for a 1290 Super Adventure R. I love how they look like nothing else in the road, especially the split headlights.

[@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127]

This review sold this bike for me

[@kruisr7449]

Many thanks for the very nice video. I bought my Duke 790 in April 2018. Until now there is no Problem with this Machine. Only the workmanship and the plastic parts do not look as valuable as, for example, Yamaha. Still, this machine has character. The engine is raw and snotty - just right for a naked bike. Even the sound with the standard silencer is wonderful.

[@paolo4002]

Love these long term reviews! You really do, do a fantastic job on them !! As far as riding position and a cramped position, KTM does offer 3 ergo seat replacement options. 20mm higher, 20mm lower, and stock height. All 3 are more comfortable, so They say. KTM also offer, an adjustable footpeg system as well. So finding a comfortable position is very achievable.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Paolo....

[@calbrock6302]

As someone who is looking at buying one of these (Xmas treat) this video is invaluable

[@jayuk686]

Reviews don’t come much more comprehensive that’s this. Excellent job.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@BRaff-hl4ip]

Yup, I'm getting one!

[@nzmike7497]

Best review of the 790 I've seen - really clear, super informative, well produced and best of all not laden with stupid heavy metal or banging techno. I'm in the market for a new bike and trying to decide between the MT09 and the 790 but as much as I love the KTM they are very expensive where I live (Australia) so it may the be Yammie instead.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Mike, both great bikes, you won’t go far wrong with either....personally I prefer the Yam of the two....

[@mikewoodward3671]

You are kidding me right? The KTM is miles better than the Yamaha MT09. I've owned both - paid for with my own hard earned cash - and having had the MT09 for 12 months I part ex'd it for the KTM in July this year. MT09 is a fab motor ruined by a very average chassis with terrible suspension and no front end feel whatsoever. The worst bike I've ever taken on track. Frankly scary. The KTM is perfectly balanced, has loads of front end feel and is miles better on track. On the road the whole KTM package feels perfectly balanced. Great engine, just the fright amount of power, fantastic handling and amazing electronics. The up / down quick shifter is outstanding. One thing you did miss from the review is that the chain is a pain to adjust on the KTM as it is VERY sensitive to chain tension and even dealers tend to set them too tight which can damage the output shaft seal. I've had mine replaced already and it still weeps. You have to run the chain quite slack. Despite this niggle it's the best bike I've owned for a long time and THE perfect road tool.

[@MaxRay16]

@@mikewoodward3671 I was really considering the MT-09 since I had the FZ-07 (USA) which got totalled earlier this year. But I used to work at a KTM dealer and had a 450 EXC supermoto and loved everything with KTM and was interested in the 790 Duke but I have to wait another year to get it here. And of course theres another dealer near me that is doing a demo on the bike next week but to ride the 500cc+ bikes you have to be 25 years or older and I'm only 19.

[@pistolpete6321]

Seems like KTM have hit a home run with this bike! Awesome review as always, love this format!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad about that Pete - cheers!

[@nathanf1934]

Except for the average suspension and brakes.

[@doylee469]

Nathan F yeah he doesnt talk about that does he? I’d never buy a ktm, no matter how many guys like this say it’s worth the money

[@scotteger6271]

@@doylee469 he mentioned the KTM branded brakes in his first ride review. He mentions the WP suspension as well. To be fair though most regular riders probably have no idea how to correctly set preload/compression/rebound, so conventional parts work for the majority of riders. Not a KTM fan but I don't think they did anything wrong here by using what they did...I mean, would Bybre brakes really improve it that much...and you know you're not going to see legit Brembo's on these kind of bikes.

[@splodge57]

Great review of a nice bike. It would be the Triumph 765 Street Triple for me, bit more bang for bucks and I much prefer the looks.

[@johnDukemaster]

Went out for a testride on one of these today and I must say, it's one of the best bikes ever! Great power, handling, brakes, modes etc etc. Yep, it might push my BMW out of my garage...hmm...

[@johnDukemaster]

Well, I'm here again! And yes, the BMW went...but for a Honda CB650R! Which went after testing the 690 Duke! I love it! ...but must admit, the 790/890 lurching in the shadows. But are they better enough to justify the price? And now there's a new 790 coming in!

[@samiam8779]

24 minutes well spent. Thanks for another comprehensive review TMF! This bike is my top 3 to replace my Wee-Strom. Going to have to check out how bad the snatchy throttle response at low constant speeds is. (RJ reported the same problem.)

[@lkfldfadf]

Snatch throttle is easily solved when switched to rain mode. Better for low speed city commuting.

[@samiam8779]

Broseidon thanks for the tip. I'm going to try it out when I demo it. Cheers!

[@eduardosilva7304]

Great full description of this bike! From far the best and the only one to watch, if you're up to buy one of these. And you convinced me, totally! I've been thinking on buying either a used Ducati Streetfighter, a Z1000sx, a Ducati Monster 1200, a BMW S1000r, or a Kawasaki 2014 Z1000...but this one beats them all! (For me...) Thanks again for enlighten me :). The looks of this KTM are great, too.

[@peterhatfield5632]

As usual, another great long term review from TMF - it's why I subscribe to the channel. I already have a 2009 Street Triple R, so I wouldn't buy the Duke 790 as they're too similar. However, I do have a 390 Duke, and that bike has the same snatchiness at small throttle openings. It is easily cured with a piggy-back ECU, and I installed a Coober item - this has cured the snatchy throttle. It seems that to conform to Euro 4, KTM has made the air/fuel ratio too lean, thereby causing the snatchy throttle.

[@nickfry7705]

I have noticed the SW Motech have now launched some decent ABS panniers and racks for the 790 now which will make it a lot more capable for touring. Also I see that Puig are doing a good looking short screen that again should help with wind pressure when touring.

[@marscruz]

I like that you (try to) show and describe to us the night riding experience. Lighting is so important for safety... being able to see down the road and around curves as well as your visibility to other drivers. Most reviewers skip this important aspect and that really is critical for how confident I feel riding at night. I'm hoping you get a chance to ride the 790 Adventure soon. That's the bike I'm really interested in. Cheers from the NW USA.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Marscruz -- I try and show the things that would be important to me if I were buying the bike in these reviews, appreciate the kind comment!

[@ads4641]

These videos really epitomize how a motorcycle review should be done, I really can't think of anything to ask that you did not cover, nice job. Gotta say that insurance seems reasonable in the UK. I'm paying almost 1000$ per year for a 2017 F6B. I've been riding bikes for 40 years, and if anyone knows Ottawa then that year is basically 7 months of riding, if you're lucky. Although I did see a guy riding a Ural with the sidecar set up last winter (December) in -20C weather and it was snowing, brave man!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Andy - appreciate the kind comments....

[@darrendark4791]

Fantastic review, I’m slowly leaning towards the duke rather than the mt07 , I’m coming from a adv350 , you answered all the questions I wanted answering thank you 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad I could help!

[@jamess9162]

Brilliant TMF, I love mine and and agree with everything you've said about it.It is the best all round bike I've ever had and there have been many.

[@madcow71]

Just made up my mind for me, I was leaning towards a street triple but I'm sold now 👍🏻

[@villavangvieng5187]

I was test-riding it too at the weekend. The quick shifter is incredible smooth, the bike remains absolutely stable even when shifting up/down in a corner with a good lean angle. Breaking into a corner is easy too, requiring only minimal additional effort. I also tested breaking when leaning in a turn already (yep, guilty of that...), and the bike remained quite stable - only a bit of straightening, rather easy to control. Very tempted to trade-in one of my bikes for this little gem. Anyway, thank you for the review, sir. Well done ;-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching.....

[@aukanmeister]

Great comprehensive review! I'm really looking forward to trying it on for size! Been riding my LC8 adv for the last 10 years, it seems about time to upgrade and downsize!

[@mrt3976]

great review Mr Flyer, once again you give a proper real world test with unbiased opinion, well done, truly inspiring.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Inspiring? Wow....I'll take it!

[@Me.ImCounting]

Had my 790 for a little over 2 months now and agree almost entirely with your review. I find I get just 120 mls from a full tank to low fuel warning and get a further 30 mls until range reads zero and I'm panicking - so 150 mls range. Estimated range is always optimistic. Comfort is fine - 8 saddle hours around twisty Welsh roads last month was more-or-less OK (and a whole lot better than my last MV). I don't like the downshifter - only seems to play nice on a completely closed throttle. Bike is fine for short-arses (if confident) - 28" inside leg here so extreme tip-toes/one-sided ball of foot. Low seating is an (expensive) option but don't feel that £132 for 20mm extra is worth it! Also - just discovered that the 790 will take a 390 tank ring (SW-Motech/Givi) using longer bolts. Ride safe....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Jerry and glad we concur!

[@KevGoesRiding]

Oooh someone’s rocking a splendid summer tan

[@nathanboeger9329]

Not a fan of naked bikes but I like this one. Great review.

[@jonathanmellish4439]

Looks brilliant with sensible power. The front guard looks a bit short for protecting the engine.

[@wltrlg]

I rented this one last week in Switzerland. Unbelievable fun, light and powerful bike!

[@CindyBallreich]

The seating position segment was really helpful! I hope you add this to all your reviews.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I’ll try and remember...

[@leftfourdead82]

Best review I've seen so far for the 790. I just ordered mine it's £7499.99 at the moment but I have to wait 3 weeks 😭

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations!

[@Showmetheevidence-]

KTM is awesome, street triple sounds mega... but think my money would end up going to the 790. Nice review!

[@MrRabbitthumper]

Hello and thanks for the comprehensive video and explanation. I am a new rider in my early 60s. I am about to buy my 1st bike in the next month and I have been aiming for the Yamaha MT-09 (yes I know that it has a very aggressive torque but it also has the modes A-STANDARD-B + the traction control + the ABS so I consider that I will be able to grow into the bike even as a beginner). Also I am no longer 20, so going out to impress anyone or do wheelies. I want to more tame the beast. But now to throw a spanner into the works, over the last two days I have been looking at a lot of videos of the KTM Duke 790. My brother-in-law who has been riding all of his adult life sides more on the MT-09 for the reliability of the Japanese build and the question of looks is a matter of personal taste. I like the KTM for the dirt bike heritage in the look of the thing. In your humble opinion is there anything that you think I should consider that contrasts between these two bikes before taking the plungeÉ

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Can’t think of anything - both very powerful for a beginner, take it easy....good luck!

[@MrRabbitthumper]

@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks! Just a matter of personal preference then....

[@johnschlesinger2009]

I had a RC390 for a few years, and my only niggles were the limited tank range, and the rubbish fuel guage, which went from 1 bar down from full to 2 bars to empty in a mere ten miles or so - silly. But it was a cracking little bike - like the 790, ran very hot in traffic, and the fan would come on. Trevor Pope m/c in Gosport gave great service, so if you're in southern England, I recommend them highly.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one…

[@stevenhill6214]

That's a great looking bike, they have got the styling just right. Great review as always.

[@Joe-co4sq]

Great video. I currently own a 2012 KTM 350excf and want to retire from trail riding and see more of Florida and I was looking at the 790 duke. Thank you for such an informative review.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You’re welcome

[@gregwebb8141]

Really great in depth review. These are coming to north America at the end of the year and man am I tempted to get back into riding with this machine.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Greg

[@deividasvisockas]

790 got all bits, but on 790 adventure R you have to pay for quickshifter and bike price is around 12k

[@Bobbyvw]

Great review! I bought one myself The Black Edition. Thanks

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cool!

[@majorjam1]

Trivia fact: Same bike 44teeth took to zwarte coss event (check vehicle reg)

[@ratsac]

majorjam1 and that, kids, is why you never buy a “press bike”. Who knows how much they’ve been flogged.

[@JanuzBerisha]

Wow this is one of the best completely detailed review i ever watched. Great video mate. Cheers

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Wow, thanks!

[@dilligaf2386]

£400 For a full service that's 5% of the cost of the bike,yes don't get it serviced at a main dealership. I get my ktm 790 serviced at a regular bike garage they charge me £ 175 for a full service.

[@meltonrobbo]

That's great until you need a warranty repair... do the two years in KTM, then do it yourself.

[@kevinmobile]

You mentioned maintenance but without touching on at least the ease of checking oil and some other fluid levels. Even if you get a garage to do something about an observed problem, it's still important to comment on these routine aspects I feel.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good point - I’ll add it to my format - cheers!

[@darvishhussain8602]

@@TheMissendenFlyer u missed to mention about the braking performance!! Pls share ur opinion

[@chrischristofis8501]

@@darvishhussain8602 brakes seems great

[@JDoubleOP]

Thanks Mr. TMF for this clear story --> Best goodlooking mid naked at the moment.

[@brighthousechrome7079]

Top review TMF, very comprehensive, my hat's off to you especially for the night section

[@spenner3529]

Nicely done. Pertinent information. No extraneous nonsense.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Pietro!

[@SickBikeDude]

Ya know...all my euro dealers are 2 hours away. I don’t think I can use that as an excuse anymore to keep me from buying, Ill be missing out! I’m torn between the looks of this thing. I love the 1290 SDR look and the GT and the 1090 adv R - but not in love with this one yet but I don’t hate it. Great review!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Jool - I'm with you on that!

[@timdubber8577]

The main problem with this is the Street Triple... I’m biased as I love Triumphs, but the Street Triple has impeccable fuelling, that beautiful triple, immense induction noise and looks that are much more ‘classic’. No doubt that this is great value and a brilliant bike, but the Street Triple is beautiful, whilst the looks of this are somewhat ‘challenging’. Plus KTM seem to love covering their bikes in that horrible, garish orange. The Street Triple just looks so much classier.

[@SantoshS1279]

Awesome! Never seen a complete review as this one. Keep up the good work! Love from India.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks!

[@TOPSK2015]

Very practical long term review. Cheers mate!

[@GIGABACHI]

I still think that muffler belongs in the rubbish can. Needs a tiny undertail mounted muffler so bad . . . I hope the cat's inside the steel bladder between the engine and rear wheel. Gas prices in your neck of the woods are HIGH (O . O) Great work, Mr. Flyer ! Look forward to more !

[@paulleggett9735]

JIGA BACHI like all ktms, before it. So you hit the power parts catalogue at the dealer.

[@eubikedude]

I actually like the stock can versus some of the aftermarket ones. It also works with the PP luggage ... which also hides it and is likely cheaper than an aftermarket can.

[@ProfTrout]

Yes, all exhausts should be neatly tucked away like an MT09's these days - big showy exhausts should of ended in the 80s along with pony tails 😁 That's the only thing I dislike about the bike.

[@mrsilbo6499]

You'll be wanting the AUSTIN Racing exhaust then...

[@v.t.6890]

Love your detailed reviews, waiting for this bike in India. Love from India..

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Vivek...

[@wave2k]

Love the old speckled hen in the garage. Great review too

[@Aiken47]

I have discovered cruise control would have been great - I'll be seeing if the 790 ADVs cruise control is installable.

[@abhinavsreekar2990]

2:30 indian manufacturer bajaj also does that on their pulser series bikes which is really nice for a relatively cheap 150cc bike. Anyways great review of the KTM 790 Duke. sadly we only have the duke 200 and duke 390 available here in india :(

[@abhinavm9389]

abhinav sreekar 790 is coming next year. Just hope it's around 7-8 lacs. Honda cbr650 is priced at 7.5 so... Fingers crossed.

[@robb8773]

The Honda Goldwing has lighted handlebar switches!

[@rookie9580]

Awesome video cheers. I was torn between the street triple and the ktm. Now I know which I’m going for. 😊😊😊

[@czuczups]

Im about to buy one, thx TMF for in depth review, it helped me a lot!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to be of service!

[@czuczups]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah, took delivery today, same black one as on the vid. Unfortunately still waiting to take the first ride as the keys and papers went in a separate package which wasnt delivered yet. Disappointing.

[@neilcole3406]

Must admit I am very tempted to go for one of these! I love the Duke 1290 and the Speed Triple S, but they are pricey! For the money the 790 makes a lot of sense! Great review too!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Neil!

[@richardchidwick5439]

Always enjoy your reviews TMF - balanced down to earth and credible for real people. Would really like to see you review the Husqvarna Vitipilen 701 - using get 690 engine from KTM. Can't argue on the numbers on this bike though - pound for pound it's pretty lean and great bang for your buck. Reliability is the thing I'd want to hear about - and dealership care - seen a few grumblings which seem to be reasonable people with reasonable expectations being let down?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Richard, yes the reliability/dealer experience is something I can't comment on with a loaned bike alas.....

[@shantanupant7724]

That switchgear backlight is patented technology of one of the KTMs stakeholder Bajaj

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Really??

[@SaxDorado]

Excellent review. I'm debating on what to get for my second bike. I'm in between the MT 09, this and the Street Triple. If I get this I'll probably keep it stock. I like the MT 09, but it doesn't come with the quick shifter in the US, so something I have to come out of pocket. I would want to flash the ECU and install a full exhaust too, so it'll cost about as much as the KTM. The street triple is nice too, but about $2000 more.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Street Triple is the way to go ;0)

[@pastie3131]

Yet another great review TMF, thank you. I have been a bit wary of buying KTMs in the past because of their reputation for being a bit unreliable, but it looks like they could have got over the issues now. Looks like a great bike and good value.

[@stableslayers3958]

Pastie be careful. I’ve had Ktm. Problematic is all I’d say

[@jamesinverarity4360]

Pastie, iv always had ktm , they just like someone who knows what there doing to maintain them.

[@stableslayers3958]

How and why do brand new Ktm’s break down then?

[@jamesinverarity4360]

They break down? News to me

[@chrischristofis8501]

My 790 is fine but then I have it properly serviced at a main KTM dealer

[@Noobyolo89]

Ended up buying a Duke 690R demo as the dealership wanted to get rid of it before they had the 790 in stock. Wish they also had an R version

[@chalkphil]

Good review - I’m really tempted by a mid-size, jump on and go bike to share the garage with my Tiger 1200!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Sounds like a good plan to me!

[@Miata822]

You don't care for fuel gauges that respond slowly or the ones that jump around. I am afraid that is just the choices we have given the odd geometry of motorcycle fuel tanks. I am sure sluggish fuel meters are simply damped to avoid displaying changes caused by moving fuel. Envision how fuel sloshes around in the tank just lifting it up off the stand, let alone under braking or riding giant wheelies, which I'm sure you do when we aren't watching :)

[@staggabob]

@8:20 It's quite often Friday around where I live too. We seem to get at least one a week lately and, if anything, i'd say they're becoming more common...

[@SineOccasu]

God bless you sir! You always do a great job reviewing bikes. Gotta throw you a like!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@karlosh9286]

Finally had a test ride of one of these , it was very good. Looks would stop me from gettting one.

[@justgotafilthyname]

really one of the best reviews out there for that bike in my eyes :) Great job!

[@CasualFlyer]

Going to pick mine tomorrow! Great Review!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations!

[@grahamtricker4103]

Nice review. The snatchy throttle seems the norm for KTMs, or certainly the ones I have ridden. Great bikes though...

[@chrischristofis8501]

You are right I'm having mine re programmed at Dave Woods Racing, for regular communing in traffic, sorts that out completely, its not a huge deal anyway you get used to it, happens around 15 to 20 mph but just means you give some gas and use the clutch, same as with many super sports bikes

[@kamilf9558]

Great video Very nice review Thumbs up 👍 Thanks for sharing Peace

[@ChaserTiponi]

I think it funny you hate the mirrors! I think that fat look is awesome and tough looking. LOL. I am an American though and that;s just me. Awesome review on this bike and the 390 DUKE video as well. This video is very informative and perfectly usable. It's 2020 now and a bit out of date but a very informative review for me to be watching. I'm very close on deciding do I want the 390 Duke or the 690 Duke? Now you have me considering the 790. At a glance I thought that size would be getting to tall and heavy. After converting all your metrics to math I can understand the specs on a 790 look quite comfortable! Honestly now I'll have to price the 790 lol. I'm pretty sure the 690 will be my personal choice via cost specs ETC. But I wanna throw out a thank you for taking your time to make videos like these! They are SUPER helpful to a guy like me torn between 2 bikes. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME and opinions!!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You’re welcome Jeff!

[@destroyerxd4499]

You do great work! One of the best, if not the best, when it comes to practical reviews. Hello from Seattle, bro! #SafeRides 🤙🤙🤙

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You're too kind sir!

[@GrumpyGarry121]

Morning mr flyer, tax is £88. Got to love pay at the pump petrol stations....... even if they are Morrison’s.

[@GrumpyGarry121]

swansea007791 - they keep conning me with meal deals........ drives me insane 😁

[@MACK13]

KTM and pilchards..... mmmmm what a combo 🦈... Fantastic review, thanks TMF - Maggie and Mack, Huddersfield

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching (and noticing the pilchards)....

[@semajohn]

Great long term review. Wow seems to be cheaper to run than my 2014 Tiger 800. 60mpg and servicing every 9,000 miles. That's good. 👍 I'll be very interested in the 790 adventure if it comes in similar mpg and service intervals. Had a look at the insurance for myself and not bad. £400 if garaged and £800 if I leave it on the drive, 12,000 miles per year (well more like 18,000 lol 🤫), two accidents in the past 5 years and the area I live. Street Triple R or 790 Duke 🤔 I think the gear leaver being on the wrong side may take some getting use to 😂

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I know I know, my bad.....

[@PhantomRides]

As always... everything covered well! KTM India is going to launch this bike next year and I have my eyes on it :-) thanks

[@HippoDrones]

the 390 and smaller are made in India, the larger bikes are not. Please don't think that bikes made in India are substandard because of where they are made, they are substandard because the manufacturer does not use the same level of quality parts on them.

[@HippoDrones]

do you not think that that bike has too much power that you can safely use on the roads? :-)

[@HippoDrones]

I love going fast, I really bloomin do.... and tbh my Street Triple is "too fast" for the roads as it will do double the UK speed limit. But even on track, I don't feel a good enough rider to justify a 1000cc sportsbike (inline4) as I can barely hit top on my 765 on the long bits around Brands Hatch GP circuit. Maybe I am getting older and slower! :D

[@HippoDrones]

the math makes sense dude! :-) Is my thoughts on the 790, the 1290 although is a lot more money, it is better value for money.

[@jimmyjames2549]

Y'all wrong. Not made in India.. thats only the 390 series for now. This one is made in CHINA. www.cyclenews.com/2018/04/article/ktm-cfmoto-west-meets-east/

[@m.rsteengrei3569]

man , , , you said it about the mirrors :) the first thing i did on my baby Duke 200 was to replace the mirrors with somthing prettier and more practical.

[@imsunil6149]

A great review. This was my first visit on ur CHANNEL N ur presentation n coverage of all imp details made me subscribe ur channel. Keep uploading the videos in same manner

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Welcome aboard!

[@Rubuz]

I love your reviews. They may not be best edited or best sounding from a technical point of view, but they are easily one of the most real life on KZbin. You actually answerthe questions that really matters and that that real life customer and motorcyclist ask himself. Keep on going!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Rubuz - and sorry about my naff editing and sound quality!

[@Rubuz]

Don't apologize, and please don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with your sound and editing, all I want to say is that on YT you can find really high production moto reviews. They are pleasing to watch, but they lack real life info. And I think that this is really what matters the most. So your honesty, experience and passion for bikes really make you a great reviewer.

[@zrkn1]

Excellent review and summary, Thank You and have a nice week ahead. ps. Nice picture of your bikes in the store front.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers!

[@Mikeburrows92]

Wish I lived near Hemel Hempstead, I’ve got 3 quotes for my 890 first service and they’re all £200, breaks my heart cause It’s just oil and filters could do it myself but of course needs to be done to keep warranty valid

[@sukhoi3747]

I test rode this bike in hot weather (~30deg C) for 5 minutes, the engine heat is similar to Panigale 1299 (deadly for summer)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

As a Panigale owner I can assure you the KTM is nowhere near as toasty!

[@browndoggus]

What has been the reliability with the KTM's? And the 790 (anybody can chime in). I've heard complaints (in general on the KTMs) but you can always find people to do that. Great review TMF as always. The thing I enjoy about your reviews is the everyday gal/guy, real world riding that you do which I believe most riders fall into. So, once again, nicely done!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks BD - try to cover the points I'd look for in these reviews, we can't all be track day gods like the "real" journo's! ...and alas I can't comment on long term reliability of course (as it was a loaned bike)....

[@thechilternturbo1185]

Congrats on the 80k!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers! (81k now!)

[@dynamotightstar3472]

Lovely looking bike and dream to tick most of the boxes. I hear a lot of bad press about faults with the bikes those being fluid leaks. I'm test riding Monday and will hopefully be as impressed with it as I am with my 390 Duke. Thanks for the great video.

[@jtandy]

Thanks TMF! Great work; very informative; keep it up!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Will do and thanks....

[@Pomoz7]

Great review TMF. You didn't mention pillion, but it looks like a small seat. As for the snatchy throttle, I can tell you that my Duke 390 (2017) was the same at slow speeds. The engine used to "hunt' and was quite jerky in 1st and second gear. When you are filtering at walking pace, this could be a real issue making it hard to to smoothly manoeuvre. I just used to use the clutch and raise the revs, problem solved. In another blog, somebody suggested that it is making the engines run lean that causes this issue, presumably to improve mileage and improve emissions.

[@125conman]

Are still happy with your 390? I grew up riding dirt bikes and im wondering if i'd get boerd of the 390 too quickly. I'd would 100% LOVE to have a 790 but i think the cost is just too high for me. Should i get a new 390 or a used 650 kawi/yam/suzi naked? 5'11 155 23 y/o

[@WyreForestBiker]

Good relative value and clever engineering .. just still have doubts over the long term quality, and the finish not up to Triumph levels ...as with all KTM's has a "built to a budget" feel about it IMO . Looks wise I agree , I feel it will date rather quickly as many older KTM's have .

[@stableslayers3958]

A bloke talking sense. Good reply. Ktm build quality is by far below standard reliability issues known issues that Ktm don’t give a shite about

[@WyreForestBiker]

I think you are talking about a different subject ! I was referring to the road bikes as opposed to the off-road range . As for ..."Triumphs I have known not made a whole ride yet without a part breaking or malfunction " .. ?? no idea where you get that from !!! . I have had 5 modern Triumphs and covered approx. 150'000 miles in total without a single issue .If you read the independent reports on bike reliability you will see Triumphs are comparable to the Japanese big four … KTM's are not !!. An example of the KTM road range with build quality issues is the 390 duke. The exhaust tubing is intentionally "dented in " at the factory in order to clear the frame where it passes behind it .. just look at one if you don't believe me.

[@WyreForestBiker]

mld.. I see you are talking from a US perspective. Very different from European one in this case . Your experience of Triumph is clearly very limited, the bikes you refer to are called Triumph Tigers. I owned one for 4 years and 35000 miles , it was faultless. I didn't pick the 390 to "stack the deck " as I am not trying to win a game .. simply giving my opinions and experience with ROAD KTM's v ROAD Triumphs … which is what this video is about .The bike featured is better than the Indian built 390 , but In My Opinion still nowhere near the standard of finish of its competitor the Triumph street Triple the tester compared it to in this video. I have test ridden both machines , have you ? ... The off-road KTM's you have so much experience with have a very long and distinguished history but are IRRELIVENT to my point....

[@philiproberts6947]

mld I parked my Super Duke R next to a 790 Duke at a dealership the other week and it's as clear as day that the 790 is built down to a budget,it's also bloody tiny! I'll stick with my Austrian KTM I think...

[@philiproberts6947]

mld I didn't say that did I... I said it's bloody tiny which it is compared to the SDR which itself is not a large bike. And looking at one in the dealership the other week when my SDR was in for service the low build quality was showing on there sub 1000 mile demo bike,rusty/furry bolts rusty chain and this was nearly a new bike with only summer use on it. On a plus point it sounds fantastic with the stock pipe on it.

[@hisaanhaq4116]

Good review as always 👍🏼, I have my eyes on the 890 duke r when it comes out, hope the oil leak issues I’ve read from reviews that this one had have been sorted

[@bayou3338]

I also roll in ktm 790 duke on my chain, I also install some parts

[@Hangkab17]

Very good review! Well explained! Thanks a lot!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks or watching....