KTM 790 Duke - Everything You Need To Know! | Full Review

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Lamb Chop Rides

Lamb Chop Rides

Күн бұрын

KTM 790 Duke - I've been lucky enough to have borrowed the 790 for the last couple of weeks to play around on from KTM UK. I've fully tested the bike and now it's time for me to let you know what I think of KTM's newest middleweight naked.
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Filming Equipment used:
Camera Primary - GoPro Hero 4 Silver - amzn.to/2rlaBec
Secondary's - GoPro Hero 4 Black - amzn.to/2rhoU1m
Intercom - Sena 10c / 20s - amzn.to/2r8EUUO
Drone - DJi Mavic - amzn.to/2rlwhqv
Data Logger - SpeedAngle www.rg-racing.com
Helmet microphones - Sony ECM-PC60 - amzn.to/2qx7K2t
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Bike upgrades Super Duke:
Crash protection - www.rg-racing.com
Carbon parts - www.motocomposites.com & www.ffcarbon.com
Carbon Wheels - www.dymag.com
Airbox tunning - www.rottweilerperformance.com
Steering Damper - www.rottweilerperformance.com
Tuning - www.dynojet.co.uk
Suspension upgrades - www.ktechsuspension.com
Clutch slave - www.oberon-performance.co.uk
Tyres - www.pirelli.com
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Riding Gear in this video:
AGV AX-8 Naked Carbon - amzn.to/2Npl6Wm
Leather Trousers - Richa Monza
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Touring Boots - Dainese Torque D1 Gore-tex amzn.to/2Ivtm4K
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LC

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@duffymoto4632
@duffymoto4632 3 жыл бұрын
the recording device in your backpack was genius! couldnt stop watching. loved hearing the rumble of that exhaust
@mikewoodward3671
@mikewoodward3671 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing I'll change on mine are the tyres. The standard ones are below par on track, but OK on the road. Suspension is fine for my 104kg. Quickshifter / auto-blipper is brilliant though it smoother to use the clutch at low speeds. Motor is a peach. This is in a different league to the MT-09 in terms of handling especially on track. You will never get a MT-09 to handle as well as this and I know cos I had one and tried all sorts of things. In the end I gave up and bought the KTM instead! Most fun bike I've ever had. Perfect blend of light weight and useable power. You really don't need 150bhp plus to have fun. Bonus for me is comfort. I'm 6' 3" and with the optional comfort seat it is all day comfortable. Bars are adjustable forwards / backwards so the ergonomics are bang on. The Street Triple 765 was on my shopping list too but for me it was a little too small. If I was a smaller rider it would be tight between the KTM and the Street Triple R. The MT-09 comes nowhere near. The only issue, as is often the case with KTMs is build quality / reliability. I've had a small oil leak from the output shaft fixed under warranty. Check the KTM forums - there are several others reporting this and other niggles. It was then fine for a few months but now it has come back, so I'm off back to the dealer again in a couple of weeks. It's not catastrophic but it is annoying. Jap bikes (or Triumphs for that matter) just don't do that. With any other bike I'd be thinking "do I get rid of it?", but this is so good I cannot think of another bike I'd rather have right now!
@GrtSatan
@GrtSatan 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree about the quick shifter/ auto blipper. Compared it to my own down shifts and mine were smoother and better. Suspension is a bit firm but I wouldn't change it. The whole machine seems to have been optimized for my size and weight and my only complaint is how much trouble it's going to get me in if I approach its limits on the street.
@ryzen397
@ryzen397 2 жыл бұрын
yea i picked up a 2020 790 duke a month ago and love it. I traded in my 390 duke on it so its quite an upgrade. The 790 is a beast, but also a tame beast if you want it to be. It's awesome for just cruising around or nailing it I love it.
@vaderwalks6790
@vaderwalks6790 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one for my 8 year old and he loves it. Says it feels pretty stable around 130mph on the highways. He's never late to kindergarten
@ryzen397
@ryzen397 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaderwalks6790 8 year olds aren't in kindergarten.
@vaderwalks6790
@vaderwalks6790 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryzen397 he got left back a few times
@picatambur
@picatambur 6 жыл бұрын
I own this bike. At the moment I`ve made about 2000km on it and it is really fun bike for twisty roads, powerful enough, practical... driving is a pleasure. But it is one problem...it just wants to go fast :-)
@Snotroggel453
@Snotroggel453 3 жыл бұрын
Did you had any major issues on the ktm after a while? Like electronic failures, leaks? I’m about to get one in 2 months brand new one. I’m only a little bit sceptical about reliability but thats not a deal breaker.
@picatambur
@picatambur 3 жыл бұрын
@@Snotroggel453 Yes I have. I have transmission oil leak. Not much, but it was disturbing. They replaced the seals and now it is not leaking for about 7000km.
@DCSuperShine
@DCSuperShine 2 жыл бұрын
Just put a deposit on a brand new 2020 790 Duke today... Get it next week... can't freaking wait..!!! Upgraded from the 390 which was also awesome! :)
@blazingwheels7293
@blazingwheels7293 4 жыл бұрын
Since the day I got this machine, it always brought a smile on my face, too bad these days I can't get a proper ride on the streets, due to the lockdown of the virus😢hope everything comes back to normal.
@brussel4242
@brussel4242 Жыл бұрын
Wanted to find out about this bike and it's an excellent vid for that, but I'm glad I wasn't out for a walk with my dog down any of those lanes.
@wonderdays4287
@wonderdays4287 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing review 🤙 you nailed bike sound over your voice 🤘 wish every review around be like yours ✌️
@wereyouaking
@wereyouaking 4 жыл бұрын
With the 890 announced you can pick these up silly cheap
@SixthGearMotorcycles
@SixthGearMotorcycles 6 жыл бұрын
I love the 790 really like the fact you have all the toys on it without having to faf around paying for it. Think your spot on about the mods required but yet to see how the suspension feels. Great vid as always mate 😎👍
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks matey!! :)
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. Жыл бұрын
So glad they brought this bike back. I have a Duke 390 and I just got my full licence. I'll stick with the 390 for a while longer but at some point I'll upgrade and so far the 790 is on the top of my list. The 890 looks awesome too but might be a bit too much power going from the 390 and also a bit more expensive. Dunno, I guess I could just put the 890 in rain mode until I get used to it but I feel like it's just more power than I need.
@riffsontwowheels
@riffsontwowheels 5 жыл бұрын
most people don't have the money to do all those mods after paying for the bike - if it's not going to be reliable you can just get the Kawasaki twin or the new Suzuki SV or just a Yamaha MT07.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
Different category. Nothing in the 650cc range offers anywhere near the amenities, controls, options. Also 800 has about 30 more horsepower, better bones (forks, brakes) for modding.
@simonsays2685
@simonsays2685 5 жыл бұрын
Took my 1290 in today for a service and had a few hours on one of these. Felt a lot smaller than my SDR, and much lighter. I was impressed by the motor and electronics, it had the power parts catalogue thrown at it including the Akrapovic end can, the seat was like a plank of wood. Going up the gears you just opened it up and changed, going down it felt like you had to try and match the engine revs to the speed, too much speed and it wasn't happy. Nice little bike though.
@alclab
@alclab 5 жыл бұрын
What a surprisingly in-depth review. Great video! I can't decide between this and the Street Triple R
@rolandfullthrottle8316
@rolandfullthrottle8316 5 жыл бұрын
No contest in my opinion, just order that Triple 👍
@iamthemobey
@iamthemobey 4 жыл бұрын
What engine sound do you like the most?
@alclab
@alclab 4 жыл бұрын
@@iamthemobey The triple honestly. However I feel it's too sportbike oriented and that could be a problem for every day heavy traffic filtering
@iamthemobey
@iamthemobey 4 жыл бұрын
Alclab I used to own a speed triple and it was fine filtering through traffic. But I am a bike lad at 6ft4 105kg so the weight wasn’t an issue to me at all. I wouldn’t let that be a reason to not get the triple. If you want it go for it mate!
@alclab
@alclab 4 жыл бұрын
@@iamthemobey Thanks for the great input mate!
@theincrediblesulk5543
@theincrediblesulk5543 4 жыл бұрын
Now having tested the new Street Triple 765 would you have the Duke or the Triple ? And why ? Thanks
@northernrider780
@northernrider780 4 жыл бұрын
Street Triple 765r.. Tested both bikes and bought the Triple, fantastic bike, feels faster, smoother and handles better, plus the KTM has pretty common faults with cutting out and with the quickshifter.
@jaconmojica4452
@jaconmojica4452 2 жыл бұрын
My god parts of the UK are beautiful when it's not raining. May we continue to be allies forever(Merica). Great review! I said the same thing about my testicles recovering when I got off the one at the local shop. Compared to my Benelli Leonchino trail it has way more torque and energy.
@tomostinato2918
@tomostinato2918 6 жыл бұрын
Engine sound comes across really well. Nicely done!
@ianallison1747
@ianallison1747 4 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews. Real world stuff.
@daytonasayswhat9333
@daytonasayswhat9333 3 жыл бұрын
Quick shifters aren’t supposed to work well at low rpms. That’s kind of the point. The transmission needs to be loaded.
@k1ortia
@k1ortia 3 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense, you wouldn't expect an auto box on a car to shift great at low speeds...Would you?
@MrTrek164
@MrTrek164 6 жыл бұрын
Seams to be a lot of contradictions on this machine ,you say the suspension is bad when most say it does very well even on crap roads , the tyres are pretty good maxxis items according to most other tests and after seeing what jezza did on them I'm not sure I have the skill set to disagree ,then the brakes are made by Juan brand a very well respected brand fitted to a few wsbk teams I'm led to believe. In context with the mto9 the ktm suspension is better by far as are the brakes and tyres I think are more personal choice ,there's not really a bad tyre out there these days just even better ones . Thanks for the review.
@lkfldfadf
@lkfldfadf 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I just thin people like to complain about brakes and suspension because it isn`t a brand name like brembo/öhlins so it instantly a "budget" part. Actually is not as simple as that. Bothe are perfectly fine for this bike.
@betogalindo9027
@betogalindo9027 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! and yes, THAT happened to me too! it shuts down(stalled) in the middle of my driving, I was like, wtf??? sent it to the dealer they checked all, pretty much nothing was bad with it. Although did a bit of research and the KTM´s have issues with the kickstand sensor. after taking it to the dealer, never did it again. greetings from Mexico.
@ryrutt4063
@ryrutt4063 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden both this and the superduke r 1290 I found this bike so much more fun! I’m still very disappointed in the looks as you say the prototype had me sold but the road version not so much...
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed , I think this sized bike is more rewarding on the road as you can work the engine
@stumo114
@stumo114 6 жыл бұрын
what would you rather have, either a KTM 790 or MT09?
@fyorbane
@fyorbane 5 жыл бұрын
Neither. Triumph 765R.
@stuartclubb4302
@stuartclubb4302 5 жыл бұрын
US Warranty: "This warranty covers only the engine, frame and swingarm. No other components of the motorcycle are covered by any warranty, expressed or implied and are sold “as is”" Now that's confidence in a quality product.
@legionmartin
@legionmartin 5 жыл бұрын
That is a deal breaker for me.
@billherman7294
@billherman7294 4 жыл бұрын
Not true, my dealer covers it all
@FilipSSFilmStudios
@FilipSSFilmStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Can reviewers stop complaining about stock license plate holders. Its the fucking law, companies literally cant make it better stock.
@Mikelikesbikes01
@Mikelikesbikes01 6 жыл бұрын
Here's to hoping KTM put that 790 engine in a supermoto bike.... that would be a weapon
@hopintheroflcopter
@hopintheroflcopter 5 жыл бұрын
KTM haven't but someone made a 1290 offroad!
@LookattheBiggerPic
@LookattheBiggerPic 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review, good ride footage - Nicely done!
@missydee6085
@missydee6085 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the smashin' review, LC. It certainly sounds like it ticks a lot of boxes when it comes to a do-it-all, fun, modern motorcycle. It looks like great value-for-money - until it comes to the upgrades that'll exploit the bike's full potential. Then again, we both know that very few standard machines will ever fully satisfy our personal requirements: so them upgrades catalogues will forever be our friends. All-in-all, I do quite fancy one meself. BOOOOOOOOM! 👍
@AmirChemE
@AmirChemE 6 жыл бұрын
"Great value for money" Dafuq? Might as well just get the new Street Triple R in that price range.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Yes its a really nice bike, Street Triple also fantastic though (well the RS was) its would be a close call between the two but RS is a lot more $$
@missydee6085
@missydee6085 6 жыл бұрын
It's just my opinion - based on grunty, supermoto-style motorcycles. The new Street Triple is a brilliant bike for the money (including the higher spec options) but I'd personally go for a used Speed Triple if I was in the market for a 3-cylinder naked. We pays our money, we takes our choice.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Chopsy - I pretty much agree with everything you said...but personally find the looks a bit "meh" - can't argue with the value though can you!
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Great minds and all that :-) Im looking forward to the R model, I could really be tempted with one.. Little project to get it looking decent haha
@HippoDrones
@HippoDrones 6 жыл бұрын
see if they let you have the 3D printed files and custom built underseat exhaust be bananas for sure! :-)
@peace9667
@peace9667 3 жыл бұрын
I think it looks really good in real life when you did the standard mods like Aftermarket tail and mirrors and remove the footpacks of the second seat...
@885wc
@885wc 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man this is going to come in $1500 cheaper than the Striple S and around $5500 cheaper than the Striple RS in India. I've wanted the Striple for years, dare I say the R is my dream bike, though sadly unavailable here. The S is too stripped down here and the RS is mental expensive. This is such great VFM that my wallet may win over my heart. All KTM need to do is stick to equivalent pricing with the West, which they have done so far and they can shut up and take my money.
@gazzafraz
@gazzafraz 6 жыл бұрын
Two days till I pick mine up. Loved it on the test ride
@glenwhyte2555
@glenwhyte2555 6 жыл бұрын
gazzafraz how did you find the throttle ? I Keep hearing about it being a bit snatchy... I'm seriously considering the 790 and coming from a gsr600 which can be well snatchy unless your ragging it hoping the 790 is not too bad. I think the black and grey paint looks great
@soupdragon1
@soupdragon1 6 жыл бұрын
I traded in my Gsr 750 for the 790 and find the throttle fine just feels like a completely different bike to the Suzuki test ride one you will love it. Took MT09 Sp,Ducati 821 and street triple rs out before i made decision and this beat them all for me.
@glenwhyte2555
@glenwhyte2555 6 жыл бұрын
Soupdragon Thanks for the comment Jbeing nosy now, did you go bkack and grey or for the orange ?
@soupdragon1
@soupdragon1 6 жыл бұрын
Orange only way to go on KTM for me
@lucadino66
@lucadino66 6 жыл бұрын
Glen whyte If you're just cruising, you can easily turn the bike into street mode and the throttle feels just fine. In sports mode it's too snatchy for traffic and normal street usage though...
@fnq-8890
@fnq-8890 5 жыл бұрын
Exhaust looks like they spent 3 mins designing it & 5 mins actually making it, very cheap & nasty KTM.
@videomaker3331
@videomaker3331 5 жыл бұрын
Hut it Sounds better than the akrapovic
@yonniboy1
@yonniboy1 5 жыл бұрын
Last summer I decided to change to a naked middleweight from my GSX-R750, over three days I tested the MT-09SP, KTM 790 and Street Triple R, the KTM blew me away with the fun I had on it (apart from the tyres) ,it was lighter than the other two and had far more power than any 800cc twin should have and its scalpel nickname is very appropriate but every time I got off it I just couldn't stand its looks, it is a very subjective thing but in my 40 years of biking there are only two bikes I let the looks stop me buying ,one was the Hayabusa and the second was the KTM 790.
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j 5 жыл бұрын
The Hayabusa looks good, too.
@bharadghost
@bharadghost 5 жыл бұрын
@@1990-t1j Subjective, and i can understand where yonniboy is coming from, Hayabusa indeed looks ugly to me as well. But with the 790 i am willing to ignore the looks those looks are manageable, get the bike custom wrapped or repainted or whatever makes it work for you, but that engine combined with the feature list and the wet weight makes is the most eligible bachelor of the middleweight naked category. Can wait to get my hands on it once it debuts in India :D
@dogtown9572
@dogtown9572 6 жыл бұрын
10/10 KTM for prototype and the hype,could have been a sensational bike
@chris5k132
@chris5k132 4 жыл бұрын
It is a sensation to ride
@TheGoldenPig.
@TheGoldenPig. 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this bike after they showed the prototype. I was so disappointed with how it looked when they showed the final version that I gave up on it and bought a z900 even though it has no electronics. Besides, I feel that a lot of the electronics are just gimmicky sales points that are waiting to fail on you years down the line. The z900 may only have ABS but I've managed to ride for the last 15 years without ever needing traction control, anti wheelie and launch control.
@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214
@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Matt. Can you post a review Of your Z900 mate ?
@TheGoldenPig.
@TheGoldenPig. 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not really one for making video reviews. But have a look at my instagram for how my z900 looks now. I do plan on doing a walk round video to show the accessories I've fitted though. instagram.com/motomatt46
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance 6 жыл бұрын
The stuff is there if you need, and out of the way when you don't. The added complexity is a concern- so far no problems regarding that on my pretty complex machine.
@wilko527
@wilko527 4 жыл бұрын
When it cut out at 15:20 that same thing happened to me. And just before it happend we did the same thing. A little throttle blip and engaged clutch. Strange.
@soulrebelno1
@soulrebelno1 3 жыл бұрын
KTM reliability strikes again! The bike cutting out at 15:19 is a well known issue, check out the forums.
@carlosgomismartin9337
@carlosgomismartin9337 3 жыл бұрын
My first KTM Duke 125 did the same and after one year and a half the engine died. Now I' ve given them a second opportunity and bought a Duke 790 the has a oil leak after 100 km...definitely I'm not going to buy a KTM anymore (or at least in the next 20 years).
@soulrebelno1
@soulrebelno1 3 жыл бұрын
​@@carlosgomismartin9337 I bought a Honda CB125R, and it's been faultless. I've been training with the Honda RIDE Academy in Chester, mainly because they use brand new CB650Rs, and the people who run it are the best in the business, and are hand-picked. When I complete the Honda course, I've got my MOD2 on Monday, they give you £500 off a new bike. For my next bike I was looking at a Triumph Trident 660, an Aprilia Tuono 660, or my favourite the Honda CB650R. They've just got some 2021 CB650Rs in Smiths Chester, and I've been having a good look at them, they're very nice. I've considered other bikes like the KTM 790, or a Yamaha MT-07, but, they all have their faults. The Trident 660 is a bit small for me, and the Aprilia Tuono is too expensive, there are reliability problems, and a long wait for any parts if you need them. Also, the KTM and Aprilia dealers are thin on the ground, and miles away from me. Thanks for the info on the problems you've had. I'll think I'll definitely go for a new 2021 Honda CB650R; I love the bike, the insurance is not too bad, it's cheaper than an MT-07, or a Tuono, but best of all - I know it will start in the morning!
@carlosgomismartin9337
@carlosgomismartin9337 3 жыл бұрын
@@soulrebelno1 My brother has the CB650R, bought in April 2019, with 15K Km and stil is going like the first day, zero problems. Honda is always a trusty option. I've talked with so many people that bought the KTM Duke 790 and practically everyone got a problem in his first 15K km (engine stops, oil leaks, lights...). And is very sad because I wanted that my next bike was the superduke 1290, but with these experiences I've totally changed my mind.
@soulrebelno1
@soulrebelno1 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlosgomismartin9337 Same here, I keep hearing about the reliability problems, so wouldn't buy a KTM. Saying that, I would love a new KTM 1290 Super Duke, but only if I could afford it, and I had more than one bike! But, it's totally unsuitable for my needs, and I would never use its full potential. Lamb Chop Rides got rid of his 2014 KTM 1290 Super Duke One for similar reasons (kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4WknYiZn6-qg9U). I don't think you can go far wrong with a bike from one of the big four Japanese manufacturers: Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki. Surprisingly, 40% of BMWs will require a repair within the first four years of ownership, which I found a bit shocking. After riding around on a few different 2020 CB650s for a while during my Honda training, I'll probably be going for a brand new 2021 Honda CB650R, it's a better bike compared to say a Yamaha MT-07 or a Suzuki SV650. The CB650R now comes fitted with a Showa Separate Function Big Piston (SFF-BP) 41mm USD forks up front, so the handling will be even better. Would've liked a nice TFT, but at least they've tweaked the LCD dashboard. The engine is now EURO5 compliant with no loss of top end power. Plus, it's received a few other tweaks, like internal water channelling from cylinder head to cylinders, which does away with most of the exterior hoses. It's a well proven in-line four, which is refined and reliable, and very smooth around town. But, open it up, and it will howl and scream, and almost snap your head off, as I found out - it's great on a motorway!
@TinManvlogger
@TinManvlogger Жыл бұрын
I don’t generally watch motovlogger reviews on bikes but that was pretty good 👍
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! 😁
@neilblundz807
@neilblundz807 4 жыл бұрын
When they are working....stunning. But it's a ktm, so make sure you buy one new enough to have warranty....or buy a Yamaha MT09 that won't break. My 2018 Duke has required a full engine rebuild at 1850miles. Took my dealer three months to complete the work and they returned it with a coolant leak....it's currently back at the dealership. Gutted. Will be parting company with it soon I think, once you've have a bad experience like this, you lose the love and faith.
@125conman
@125conman 4 жыл бұрын
What was wrong with your engine?
@elizabethmathew7661
@elizabethmathew7661 4 жыл бұрын
Epic bike ..... KTM makes fun ready bikes
@mrsuperduke6684
@mrsuperduke6684 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent work Chopsy!!.....still prefer the 1290.... and trying to do deal on one. Keep up the front wheel👍👍😆
@RCmaxxUK
@RCmaxxUK 2 жыл бұрын
This duke or the TUono 660? Great videos by the way. 💪🏼🔥🔥🔥
@Mohammadkashifkhan2093
@Mohammadkashifkhan2093 5 жыл бұрын
dude illuminated switch gears are not that big of a deal, we get them here in India in 150cc bikes.
@Mohammadkashifkhan2093
@Mohammadkashifkhan2093 5 жыл бұрын
@Sam Kenin oooh did you get offended that easily ;)
@Mohammadkashifkhan2093
@Mohammadkashifkhan2093 5 жыл бұрын
@@GurpreetSingh-ye1pw lmao
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
Coming from a guy who has an MT-09, I'm actually extremely interested in the 790 Duke. I'm a lover of twins, especially the lumpy firing order twins. I know the 790 doesn't have the same horsepower as the MT, but it's not an extreme difference. I bet that 790 has a beefy midrange, maybe even more than the MT. What's your thoughts? That thing just sounds mean under throttle. Has a bit of a whirr too, like a gear set inside the engine.
@boomerhgt
@boomerhgt 4 жыл бұрын
Mate stick with your MT 09 KTMs are a load of trouble I bought a new 690 it was a pile of shite
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
@@boomerhgt You're not talking my language. I'm into engineering, details, cause/effect, maintenance, troubleshooting, analysis, design, science, physics, etc.
@Smightification
@Smightification 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! There are so many good reviews on this bike and for the price the flaws are fixable! The motor sounds great can't wait to see how it works in the adv model!
@ivawe
@ivawe 6 жыл бұрын
What you said about disabling ABS and Traction Control on the MT09 in order to wheelie it is wrong. You just have to turn TC down 1 notch. ABS and TC still works fine.
@Dp3.16
@Dp3.16 6 жыл бұрын
Ktm want to stop worrying about rider aids, and get basics right. SUSP/BRAKES/TYRES/great review 👍
@keithforbes4213
@keithforbes4213 4 жыл бұрын
Great, real world review thanks for being so thorough. I test rode one of these again today and I'm pretty sure it will win out against the Street Triple R (my other choice) as the riding position and value proposition seem a little better for me (I'm 6'2"). I have read about issues with excessive heat from the left side of the engine (an issue as I live in sunny Sydney) and some gremlins in the box ie false neutrals etc. Did you experience any of these and how did you find it at highway speeds? Thanks
@baileysnape
@baileysnape 5 жыл бұрын
Borrowed one for a few days earlier this year. The engine sounds awesome and it looks amazing. But, I really didn't like the way it cooks your leg, the day night mode on the screen. That said, it's a good bike.
@gabrieljohannson6777
@gabrieljohannson6777 5 жыл бұрын
Will have to check out the cost for it down here in Australia. Would be a great commuter I have to say. Thanks Chops!
@Vger77
@Vger77 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your review, we have similar taste in bikes. I am the owner of a 500 6days 2019 also ;) I hope in EICMA this year together with the adventure model they present us with an R version with suspension fixed and 10hp more, I will buy one next summer or a used S1000r, Tuono or 1290.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Oh have you, great arnt they :-) I was told yesterday an R version is coming, 120 bhp and Brembo brakes and the adjustable suspension. That will be a VERY good bike
@Vger77
@Vger77 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, makes me smile every time i ride it :) 120bhp! better then I was expecting! With those specs I'm totally buying one next summer, drooling already :)
@a2matu197
@a2matu197 6 жыл бұрын
I’m loving the bike more and more, have already ridden 5000km plus 2 trackdays on my! The front brakes are surprisingly good on the track and the front suspension hasn’t been dipping into corners either yet. Let’s see when speed gets higher. But hey, check out my track vids for yourself and see! Cheers
@hcreateutube
@hcreateutube 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the mt09 will wheelie with traction control in setting 1
@eduardosilva7304
@eduardosilva7304 5 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo, thank you! I just don't agree with you in how this KTM looks. For me, it looks superb! I did see the concept bike, looked awesome too, of course, but it was just a concept,... this version for the public nailed it, in my opinion. Cheers, keep the good work!
@arbeemtb6648
@arbeemtb6648 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, the reason your Quickshifter is cluncky is most likely due to the parameters for the QS being wiped on the first service. I was experiencing the exact thing you mentioned about not being able to shift down. It's probably not auto blipping for you either if you listen carefully. Apparently KTM never included a step to reload base paramters for the QS. As such the techs working on my bike didn't realise it was required, and I think I may be the only one in my area on a 790 Duke so they had no prior knowledge. Gave it back to them for 30min and it was fixed. Your QS should be as smooth as using the clutch normally, just much faster. If it's not take it in for an inspection. Also the point about tyres, I feel anyone who really cares about tyres already has a strong preference for what they like, and they're likely to swap to their preferred tyre no matter what came on the bike. IMO the Maxxis tyres are perfectly fine, no slip except under WOT, but I do live in Australia, so it's likely a lot easier to get heat into the tyres.
@crownmoto
@crownmoto 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the R version of this bike. May have to pony up for one!
@HippoDrones
@HippoDrones 6 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to love this bike, it has unfortunately left me a bit cold though. Just my opinion, but I feel KTM have intentionally made it less of a bike than it should be so that they can release an "R" version in a year or so. That will work well for those that hold off for it, as it will give KTM a chance to iron out any potential bugs in the electronics and make a £10k version which will be a beasty.
@soupdragon1
@soupdragon1 6 жыл бұрын
The r version will probably have brembos an extra 15hp adjustable suspension akropvic exhaust and a slightly different colour scheme.For me not going to ride all that much diffrent as the standard 790 seems set up perfectly for me with plenty of power.
@HippoDrones
@HippoDrones 6 жыл бұрын
I think better brakes, tryes and suspension will make a mega difference, as it does to any bike. I also feel if you are correct at 15bhp.... adding 10% more go to any bike is going to make a wedge of difference. I am no power hungry monster, I have a Street Triple 765 but also own a KTM 390 Duke and a Moto Guzzi V7, both have under 50bhp and are both a tonne of fun! :-)
@soupdragon1
@soupdragon1 6 жыл бұрын
Yep it will make a difference but i just feel the bike feels perfect for me at 78kg and 5ft 7" . Its all personable i suppose some people will like it some not i just found it great value and just right for me having test rode Ducati 821,street triple rs and Mt09 sp i just preferred the 790.It is the most fun i have had on a bike since my RD350lc.
@HippoDrones
@HippoDrones 6 жыл бұрын
that is high praise for it to be comparable to a 2 stroke classic like the RD! :-)
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Been told by KTM R version will be 120 hp with Brembos and adjustable suspension, hopefully orange frame too! May be tempted tbh...
@beetleything1864
@beetleything1864 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of new bikes have cheap tires and suspension - it's where manufacturers save money - the BMW R9T comes with non adjustable suspension on most models. KTM have there own suspension outfit WP - all other reviews say it's well set up - i think you might be heavier than average :) - great review - it's a nice bike - i gotta try one.
@janmajnik6889
@janmajnik6889 Жыл бұрын
I had the display on dark mode on my 390 permanent because dark mode is just better on everything. :) But it was for sure too sensitive.
@AmirChemE
@AmirChemE 6 жыл бұрын
At 825mm, the seat height is WAY too tall for shorties like me. Why is KTM so obsessed with tall seat heights? At least the 790 has better colours than the ugly orange steel frame.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
So do a small seat option Jesus, or a higher one also. I found it very low compared to the 1290R but Im 6'2 so its not something which is obvious to me at first
@AmirChemE
@AmirChemE 6 жыл бұрын
You're a lucky chap, LC.
@themarenda
@themarenda 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus MLG i guess because they have long tradition of dirt bikes and to maintain more similar position for their fans, but it's cool for the tall riders because they're cramped on shorter road bikes
@malcolmpickering2438
@malcolmpickering2438 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus MLG 😊there are lower seat options and a lowering kit available buddy👍. More height options than the 390. 790 is a great bike.
@saltandoalvacio5736
@saltandoalvacio5736 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! I would love to buy this bike! But they don't sell it in Vietnam, and import it is crazy expensive... Look a nice machine!
@nathanboeger9329
@nathanboeger9329 6 жыл бұрын
I want the 790ADV so bad my gentleman parts hurt. Please KTM, get that bike out!
@marksmith8663
@marksmith8663 6 жыл бұрын
On the Electronic Only thing missing is Cruise control
@acopernic
@acopernic 5 жыл бұрын
Well done.. The power commander is forbidden on street but with Coober we may have a solution especially for low rpm. The tires... yeah.. A road 5 or metzeler maybe better. The downnshift is cluncky as you mentioned. For the exhaust I don't like the sound at idle but sounds better at 6k (better than the akra).
@Twedymoto
@Twedymoto 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Mr Chops! that's a lot of bike and tech for the money compared to the 701 and 690!!
@Smightification
@Smightification 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike lol i have seen a few popping up in my state in the US I'm aching to give one a go!
@calbrock6302
@calbrock6302 2 жыл бұрын
A low miler (3k) 2018 model is about £5k now….very tempted to treat myself for Christmas
@punkrockdidi
@punkrockdidi 2 жыл бұрын
Checking one out tonight 😁
@calbrock6302
@calbrock6302 2 жыл бұрын
@@punkrockdidi awww nice!!!!!
@chrischristofis8501
@chrischristofis8501 2 жыл бұрын
Where? Ill buy it
@hakonreitan7996
@hakonreitan7996 2 жыл бұрын
What how! In norway a used 2019 one with maybe 10 k km is 10-12000£
@IbraCareca
@IbraCareca 6 жыл бұрын
790 duke aka plum basher! 🤣🤣 another bril one Sir Chopsy
@silverbackanimal7215
@silverbackanimal7215 3 жыл бұрын
That rebound from the back shock isn’t something I would like, and I reckon I could fabricate up a custom exhaust for my self being a welder to really get some more pop from the Exhaust. These parallel twins are hard to get a big thump out off i here . Maybe that’s a challenge for me.
@dougie1325
@dougie1325 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks Chops. I like this bike but I don't love it. This comment is based completely on looks as I've not ridden one.
@glenwhyte2555
@glenwhyte2555 6 жыл бұрын
Dougie i totally agree.. i tested a demo 790 and so close to getting it. But it's a bit like having an ugly bird who's great in the sack !
@motostroller
@motostroller 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I was really impressed until you raised the issue of the suspension … which is why I love the Superduke GT. Yep, a shed load more money but the suspension is awesome, and that, for me, makes it worth it.
@RupeWilson
@RupeWilson 5 жыл бұрын
I own the 390 and love it, but I know if i buy this bike id never need another.. but i still love the 390.. :-(
@tenzingbhutia8084
@tenzingbhutia8084 5 жыл бұрын
Human beings are never satisfy
@Senna-xi1gr
@Senna-xi1gr 5 жыл бұрын
Had mine a year now & my thoughts exactly,front end too hard.
@topgun8683
@topgun8683 6 жыл бұрын
TMF just reviewed that bike and he said they should fire the guy who designed those mirrors !
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah KTM do struggle to make a decent looking mirror.. Not sure why! But they would be changed for bar ends ones anyway so no biggy
@stevenbatley8666
@stevenbatley8666 Жыл бұрын
Best of the bunch,brilliant.
@robindunn4493
@robindunn4493 5 жыл бұрын
There's lots of bikes out there, if you changed the suspension, exhaust and a remap they would instantly become great bikes.
@blackvikingthrone
@blackvikingthrone 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason they’ve taken away the duke/superduke orange frame that made this range stand out so much. Even the 390 still has it.
@sm400xr
@sm400xr 4 жыл бұрын
great vid thanks bud test riding soon
@iamthemobey
@iamthemobey 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think after the test ride mate.
@nathanf1934
@nathanf1934 6 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you wearing?
@mr.workhardplayhard6550
@mr.workhardplayhard6550 6 жыл бұрын
He's the black spiderman lol
@plasticprinter1
@plasticprinter1 6 жыл бұрын
Hey LCR, great review, I really like the look of this bike. Excuse my ignorance, could you elaborate on your comment 'suspension revalue' and what this means/ what you would gain from this? Cheers
@jasonsmith9161
@jasonsmith9161 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Cope it’s basically changing the way the suspension works by going inside and doing some modifications. Best left to a professional.
@ribaaz
@ribaaz 6 жыл бұрын
15:22 my duke 390 did that occasionally, seems like a ktm thing
@thorstenkochling4750
@thorstenkochling4750 6 жыл бұрын
Good catch, mine did that exactly once. Was weird and a little scary though.
@theuberindian3988
@theuberindian3988 6 жыл бұрын
Dude! And I thought it was just my bike! Leave it overrunning too long and pop the clutch in. Gone. Looks like a fueling issue. If you notice, on the occasions it doesn't cut out, the revs drop pretty low and then pop back up.
@ribaaz
@ribaaz 5 жыл бұрын
@@theuberindian3988 never had the coming back up thing, but after an ecu upgrade and a bit of miles added on, i never had the problem again. My mechanic said it was just a fueling issue, probably due to the eu rules about emissions
@Englishbikerdan
@Englishbikerdan 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid! Confirmed my thoughts, I need one!
@ryanhill1287
@ryanhill1287 5 жыл бұрын
I have watched every review on the KTM 790 Duke and this one was by far the best! Well done! I've been thinking about selling my 2013 Triumph Daytona 675R and buying a middle weight standard with some decent electronics, good looks, and a killer exhaust note. I was considering the Ducati Monster 821, Triumph Street Triple 765 R or RS, or the KTM 790 Duke.. Of the three bikes I mentioned which one would you choose?
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan, the 790 is great but out of those three the RS Street would be my choice. It's a fair bit more money of course but money no object 👍
@teapotone
@teapotone 6 жыл бұрын
Mate that bike looks an absolutely hoot!!! 1290 Superduke or that then?
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is Bruce, Im getting more and more tempted with these lightweight middleweight bikes as they are more fun on the street as you can work the engine and its more engaging. Maybe I will chop my 1290 for the R model when its out!
@darkmagician2730
@darkmagician2730 4 жыл бұрын
It is so nice when i search for review of certain bike and i see yo did it so i know i wont waste time on other bullshit channels
@leeallen8840
@leeallen8840 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched you brilliant review (and filming) of the 2020 Street Tripple R. Which bike would your money be spent on out of the two. I am toying with either of them at the moment. I would very much value your view. Thanks, Lee
@yumyumbaboon
@yumyumbaboon 4 жыл бұрын
May I suggest the 890R sir? AKA The Super scalpel!
@GurpreetSingh-ye1pw
@GurpreetSingh-ye1pw 5 жыл бұрын
15:25 permanent problem with KTM
@Skyline4017
@Skyline4017 5 жыл бұрын
that happens on my 390 duke 2017...i figured it would happen if i pull in the clutch and lean at low speeds...it does this only when i ride in city...not on open roads Edit: I was thinking and maybe it is because of the side stand sensor?!? If anyone knows how to fix this or why this occurs please leave a comment
@paulcullum1473
@paulcullum1473 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry it's just ugly. Don't care how it rides. You have to love the look of you're bike or what's the point.
@HippoDrones
@HippoDrones 6 жыл бұрын
they turned the cutting edge prototype into a commuter bike regarding the styling
@fortyfour1654
@fortyfour1654 6 жыл бұрын
I could to learn to live with the commuter ugliness in 2years when the harsh KTM depreciation hits, and it'll roughly be worth half the rrp now... .....but in 2yrs the worries of all those costly potential electrical nightmares with all those wizz bang riding aids.
@xcfan
@xcfan 6 жыл бұрын
390 looks better. ???
@annabanna666
@annabanna666 6 жыл бұрын
the thing is . ppl who ride dont look at the bike because they spend their time riding . looks a like kinda irrelevant if the ride is that good u will not be thinking about the bloody look lol. but uey some ppl spend half their life in front the mirror and have garage queen bikes that never see real use . each to their own aye . but performance trumps aesthetics all day in the motorcycle world
@paulcullum1473
@paulcullum1473 6 жыл бұрын
annabanna666 nah, still gotta at least like the look. How many times do you look at a bike go by and lust after it. I get it that it's a fun bike to ride but I wouldn't want it cause it's ugly. The 1290 is sexy though.
@scandimc
@scandimc 6 жыл бұрын
I think it doesnt have all the bling with suspension and brakes yet, because KTM are maybe saving that for a potential 790 DUKE R, as they did with the 690 duke.
@alf786
@alf786 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video loved it;) duke r version hmm
@SJW82
@SJW82 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE this bike, I can't wait to get my Bike license and work my way up to it. Hope I am not too big for it, as I am 6ft 5
@iamthemobey
@iamthemobey 5 жыл бұрын
M WJ82 I’m 6ft 4 105kg with long legs and the can ride it fine. I used to own a speed triple 955 and the seat it a bit higher and the bars are closer. It feels great and i doubt it’ll be to small for you.
@MrAndrew1953
@MrAndrew1953 5 жыл бұрын
Let's face it you have to spend bit more than the asking price to fix key aspects of the bike like tyres and suspension. Jerky throttle and front brakes ( new pads enough?).
@videomaker3331
@videomaker3331 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hoffman i have a 790 and the suspension works just fine. In you Ride on the Track you Need of course an aftermarket Suspension. Tires aren‘ t Bad at all After 6000 km i got. the Continental Road attack.
@gurnstein
@gurnstein 6 жыл бұрын
'Comfort seat', meaning standard is a plank, but don't worry for £xxx we'll throw some decent padding in. Ye gods we're getting taken for a ride by some of these manufacturers.
@midibudu
@midibudu 6 жыл бұрын
is actually really comfy, had a 5 hour trip on the freeway and i do prefere that plank to my older SV650S soft seat
@jubei1000000
@jubei1000000 4 жыл бұрын
my husqvarna vitpilen flamed out just the same at 15:33, took it back to the dealer with exactly the same issue, ecu reflashed twice, can’t sort the issue out. very dangerous, engine shuts off at random times while blipping. traded it in for a honda now. love them but too many electronic problems
@Mr450pro
@Mr450pro Жыл бұрын
This Why I don’t want a KTM.. so many problems and a lot of people are left Hanging by KTM. If it wasn’t that way I would own one now…
@2Meerkats
@2Meerkats 5 жыл бұрын
meh - The KISKA Kids need to be sacked and KTM get a new and better design team
@harryflashman543
@harryflashman543 6 жыл бұрын
Is the R model definitely coming out and when?Had a test ride and loved it but the brakes did seem a bit below par,found the suspension fine but then I’m quite a skinny fella,felt pretty plush after my Monsters rock hard set up.Would be gutted if I went for it with the R being just around the corner.
@glenwhyte2555
@glenwhyte2555 6 жыл бұрын
8.41 "yeeha".. 8.44 take that chopsy !! Haha .. i took one out today and agree with your views. Great fun bike to ride
@ericppagel
@ericppagel 5 жыл бұрын
Great video & review LCR! Commuter and long weekender ride wise for the "working man", one bike, your thoughts? (Tires def changed) Cheers.
@jbird330
@jbird330 6 жыл бұрын
I see the fault that seems to be running thru Ktm’s range of dukes worldwide and that is stalling when coasting, I swear it’s an electronic issue?....
@malcolmpickering2438
@malcolmpickering2438 6 жыл бұрын
MRJCW 🤔nearly 1000 miles on mine and this never happened (yet😏).
@jbird330
@jbird330 6 жыл бұрын
malcolm Pickering here’s hoping you never do.....
@rdrg7362
@rdrg7362 6 жыл бұрын
The engine switching off happens on other KTM (road) models, too, especially when the engine is hot and you are blipping the throttle for downshifting and slowing down. Surely a mapping issue.
@liamshah797
@liamshah797 6 жыл бұрын
My 790 duke is doing this and i was wondering why!
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