Kurt Cobain's FIRST LOVE & Muse (The Story of Tracy Marander)

[@jedimindfrak82]

Tracy is the best, she definitely doesn't get enough credit for all that she did. Such a kind soul.

[@waanaabe-4795]

Too bad that groupie Courtney L. came n and nailed his coffin shut. He needed persons like Tracy around. Did he not see it or was he THAT self-hating?

[@sophieso6850]

Of course, regarding Courtney Love, he would still be alive if he hadn't met Courtney L.

[@TingTong2568]

@@waanaabe-4795 well that's Kurts own choice to be with that groupie Courtney L. And it ended with disaster for him. His loss for leaving a great woman like Tracy.

[@waanaabe-4795]

@@TingTong2568 Of course! but we all know know some kind of "Courtney"... I wish he didn't get his head all turned around. He needed Tracy but it too often goes this way, the the loudest, pushiest voice is the one we hear... doing what he did, he never got the passage of time to reflect and see his error. Being suicidal is no joke and I think all he could see was bleak... now he's see Tracy was his Angel

[@heatheroriordan5800]

​@@TingTong2568he didn't leave Tracy for Courtney. He was dating Mary Lou Lord when he met Courtney

[@le_th_]

This woman made it possible for Kurt and Krist to build a fan base. What a very kind woman, and what a beauty with that dark brown hair and brown eyes.

[@Blooodhail]

Tracy is lovely. I’m glad people are appreciating her more. Without her there might not have been Nirvana.

[@IRGhost0]

but also if kurt listened to her, he might have given up on music and started working real jobs.

[@sonder8310]

​@@IRGhost0She did encourage him to keep pursuing music, he himself gave her credit for that. I think it's fine of her to expect after years, that he would get some job to contribute (I was so done hearing apparently she also had to do the house chores, wtf bro??). I couldn't have done her shifts forever, bless her honestly.

[@Userfriendly116]

xd.. bro stop with the nonsense. It's okay she is a nice woman but stop.

[@ShainIva]

​@@IRGhost0 Or kept writing music, get his popularity no less then this, and to be alive even now. Ability to find job is flexibility of the character, it's not the verdict to the artist.

[@ShainIva]

​@@Userfriendly116 thanks 😂

[@MargauxMille-v2g]

She was gorgeous! I think it's really sad when she says "maybe he felt like he was moving on and I wasn't" it's like she still loves him, she was sincere

[@howareyou857]

I think she has moved on fine...I understand she is now a wife and mum

[@nimitz1739]

And Kurt left her high and dry. All the money he made that he didn’t even care about he could’ve gave her a couple of million. Or maybe just one million. In gratitude for her basically letting him live rent free while he was getting his band off the ground. Kind of shows how selfish he could be. IMO

[@cosmospray]

Agree… she was working every day till 9 to pay the bills and she worked for the band. As soon as he gets money and success he drop her. What a rude freeloader….

[@hehasnolips1371]

That’s because he was selfish he was a terrible person and so was Courtney what an evil duo they had been if you watched interviews with him and country Kurt would be so disrespectful to the interviewer he was a hypocrite (everyone knew that) and was a narcissist

[@halloweenjack95]

As much as I love Nirvana & respect Kurt. I gotta agree.

[@halloweenjack95]

​@@hehasnolips1371 he wasn't a narcisst. He was biopolar and also physically sick. Add heroin addiction on top of that.

[@le_th_]

Narcissists don't do that, they feel pathologically entitled to have someone else take care of them until them "make it big". They don't do chores. That's for other people menial people to do them.

[@CasaDeBarbaYBurro]

Thanks for giving her the recognition she deserves! And thank you Tracy!!

[@kundalinicobain6897]

I love Tracey. But I do think Kurt partially used her. Like if anybody else had pulled off such selfish behaviour, we’d all call him a jerk and used. But Kurt gets away with it somehow. Not cool Kurt. So where was your feminism when it came to helping with household chores?!?!?!

[@Yes_Anastasia]

A lot of men do this when they become famous. Jim Carrey comes to mind immediately.

[@marisaschmutz9034]

@@Yes_Anastasiawhat did Jim C do?

[@ratsontherails]

Stop being the moral police, it's embarrassing. We are all humans we make mistakes , especially as young people.

[@kundalinicobain6897]

@ratsontherails don’t project your shame onto me. Keep it 👈

[@ratsontherails]

@@kundalinicobain6897 you are criticizing a guy that's been dead for thirty years over not doing household chores ? Speaking to him directly as if he can hear you? You are the projector here. He can't hear you. Have a clue.

[@juansolis4796]

I bet she didn´t sell one thing he made, unlike Courtney.

[@alishkar27]

yeah, I thought the same. she really loved him and seems like till now...

[@knoelle1357]

Courtney is an evil witch.

[@tutmosispagnotta]

Kurt was not the person the media portraied. He used Tracy to get his band to success, living rent free in her apartment while she worked till late to pay rent and bills. He was selfish and immature.

[@kundalinicobain6897]

Yeah Kurt by no means was the Angel we often think he was. He was super conflict avoidant which means he was emotionally unavailable and not mature. He was an amazing artist though and I think have so many people a feeling that they belong even if they are outsiders and freaks. He was very complex and this world defo is a better place with him in it.

[@Samuel_Giba]

Common story for famous musicians, once they get famous and no longer need support they move to another

[@mimi2the4]

Not just musicians.....

[@matildam797]

This actually happened to me and he is not even that famous yet

[@rosevanguard]

Well he wasn’t famous in 1988, but soon he would be.

[@yanamooncraft]

Sadly it isn't just famous people who did this...

[@JosefineLea]

I can confirm that its not only famous people.... You make someone feel better and help them up from the bottom, and they abandon you and even put you down because now they feel they are better than you... Instead of expressing gratitude.

[@junejunejuniejune]

I think of their story in parallel to Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham's story... Stevie wanted to support Lindsay's success and song writing, she was waiting tables for him to live for free.... but he took her with him in his success. Stevie was part of the package deal he made when he joined Fleetwood Mac. But Kurt did not bring Tracy along for his success, and I am not sure he truly thanked her as she deserved. He left her high and dry after all she did for him.

[@chrisl3336]

She is a good human being definitely

[@ElSantoLuchador]

I was in Olympia and went to Evergreen at a time when Kurt was hanging around and Nirvana was playing dive bars and parties. They weren't even a thing in Seattle yet. The effect of Kathleen Hanna (Bikini Kill) on Kurt's trajectory is under-appreciated. She's the reason "Smells Like Teen Spirit" had that title.

[@sweetestcyanide]

she also co-owned and operated reko muse, an art gallery and live venue that the photo for bleach was taken in (as said in the video). it was their opening night and she had nirvana play along with bikini kill (her band)

[@jeanqueen8401]

The one that does the hard work doesn’t get rewarded.

[@julesvan]

Reminder that Tracy found Kurt unconscious with a syringe stuck in his arm and his use only escalated from that point on as well as his ecstasy use during their relationship... Too many clueless users pretending he would still be alive if he hadn't dumped her. He was on a mission to self destruct and he didn't listen to anyone.

[@clarajoao3359]

exactly

[@mayjailerxx]

@@clarajoao3359so true!

[@NOKEEZY]

I’m sure he didn’t realize how deep his heroine use would go, as does anybody who gets into it. As for the ecstasy… bro was just having fun.

[@jenhasken]

This is why I don’t revere the guy like so many do and I don’t really understand that.

[@mack7329]

That thought she said in that documentary that she wasn’t aware of him ever using herion…

[@ultra_blaise]

This just confirms that no one should date or marry a person for their potential. Artist or not never build up a person. She is clearly in denial saying she doesn't know why they broke up but than says it very clearly "he was moving ahead and I wasn't", not only that, but he was garnering fame, getting other female attention and didn't need to use her for money anymore. I dislike stepping stone people.

[@jomene1125]

Stepping stone people you say are you talking about Kurt or tracy

[@ricardorodriguesrr18]

​@@jomene1125kurt of course

[@pinkkitten_nails]

So he basically used her. Sometimes idols have bad sides to them as well

[@ratsontherails]

He was a young dude he made mistakes like we all do

[@JosefineLea]

Lol everyone has bad sides...

[@lenafranklin7262]

Tracy seems so natural and grounded as a soul. Peace

[@icaanul]

Definitely seemed like he used her as a launchpad. As soon as a hint of potential success came, ditched her. Chad, too. But in the world where we paint all dead as martyrs, that's probably something that would piss people off to say. Regardless, that seemed very selfish. Breaking up with one in the usual way can be benign but ditching his patron and his drummer within such a short time looks motivated by career instead of genuine feelings. Over the phone? FFS

[@BrooklynBaby100]

@icaanul Recently broke it off with someone who I said “it’s not my problem” when they mentioned they had not made it far enough as a professional musician. It’s not. I’m not his mom. And he got very upset but it was instinctual for me. I felt repulsed by his own lack of drive and ambition. Ew!

[@brokencandy1797]

I don't think he did intentionally, like as some sort of Machiavellian plot. He didn't know Nirvana would become NIRVANA. He didn't know if or when his music career would take off. I think he entered the relationship in good faith and it fit his life at the time, and later he felt it didn't. Clearly he wanted a partner who was also an artist. Maybe back when he was a janitor who had a band and was dating a waitress it felt comfortable and made sense, when it was looking increasingly likely that his mop pushing days would soon be behind him, he felt that he needed someone whose schedule and priorities are align with that kind of life. He probably didn't predict that his priorities would change.

[@ricardorodriguesrr18]

​@brokencandy1797 nah definitely not. You think he is a saint. It was not a matter of knowing nirvana become nirvana. It was a matter that as soon as he could make enough for him to survive he ditched her.

[@MariaIsabelBonanno-o6b]

Tracy ❤ The best girlfriend in this world.. Deserve the best song.. Always ❤

[@NateDiggy33]

Outstanding content on a Kurt subject that has not already been done to death. Thanks.

[@RafaelSilva-od4bb]

Tracy was the real deal. As he became richer and weirder, Kurt fantasized about having a relationship like that of Sid and Nancy. Courtney just happened to fit in perfectly. Had he lived on after those turbulent years, they (Kurt-Courtney) wouldn't have lasted long as a couple.

[@sd5884]

The guy was definitely really dark and disturbed… Fantasizing about a couple destroying themselves in appartement which look garbage deposit, who will end with the guy stabbing to death his girlfriend… I knew he was dark but not that dark..

[@Kornhulio18]

That was actually Courtneys little fantasy not Kurts

[@lillyrush-y9c]

​​@@Kornhulio18 True.Kurt did not get anything he wanted but Courtney got it all.

[@lillyrush-y9c]

So true..Kurt did not get anything he wanted and Courtney got it all.

[@gomerhanger2285]

verify common.. the book Rocket Queen details what happned to all the gf that supported their bfs till they got big and dumped them all for models.

[@sd5884]

Thanks for the suggestion, never heard of this book but it seems interesting

[@ZowieFaerieYeah]

I can't find this book... who is the author?

[@KittySkeed]

This video should be called "Kurt's first door mat" -He was a bum and used her to work and pay bills while he gained popularity in music. It was a very one sided relationship. As soon as he was able to make it on his own, he pushed her away because he didn't need her anymore. I love Kurt and Nirvana but this is the raw truth of it.

[@GabrielaCoutinho12]

100%

[@ManticMenace]

If they stay together Who Knows how history changes

[@belle1762]

The high pitched sounds you used between parts was freaking out my dog lol

[@ih8myfriends]

“If you work really hard at your instrument, eventually… you’ll get a girlfriend that pays your rent” Satchel of Steel Panther

[@kermit1473]

Tracy I always thought you were so lovely and cool...thank you for nurturing him...I never thought you got credit for how much you took care of him.... Love you... blessings always from SD

[@yanamooncraft]

It sounds like he was taking advantage of her. Did he ever pay her back? She did so much for him and allowed him to be in the position to be able to gig. He sounds like some men that I know; ungrateful and disloyal. I really hope that he repaid her, but I highly doubt it.

[@starshineraiser6729]

Wow, I’m very pleasantly surprised by the great quality of this video. It’s fun to watch. Well done.

[@BrodyLuv2]

Hello Tracy 👋 Bristol UK here just wanting to say Thank You for your heart, you helped not just me but millions through your spirit. Thank You x

[@kermit1473]

I have always felt so bad for Tracy...thank you lovely lady...you are soo soo kind

[@angelmorrigan7680]

it is too bad he didnt stay with tracy! he would still be alive today and maybe we would have more music or art!!!

[@thecbglady]

really tho! but damn, we always throw away the ppl who really love us. At least i always did

[@Danathema]

He would have been dead around 1991/1992

[@hehasnolips1371]

He wouldn’t Kurt had depression and was a hypocrite,narcissist and a druggie who unalived himself

[@NA-xb4mq]

Yall do not know that lmfao

[@sd5884]

What a stupid comment. He loved drugs, he wanted a junkie rockstar lifestyle and he OD’d several times before dying. You can’t save people that don’t want to and he wanted all that.

[@mahakhatib27]

Its so tragic that this relationship ended the way it did. Both people were wrong in this circumstance. Tracy should not have threatened to kick out Kurt and should have just talked about how she was feeling and communicate what she wanted from him (which was probably stability and support). As for Kurt, he should have been more considerate of Tracy and should have held up his role in the household. Should of, would of, could of, am I right?

[@JamesBarker-qt3pb]

Should Would Could Of Is Me 24/7

[@mahakhatib27]

@@JamesBarker-qt3pb lol same😆

[@Rotwangsrobot001]

He was cheating on her. She was getting used.

[@mahakhatib27]

@@Rotwangsrobot001 You say that and I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are always two sides to every story. Saying Tracy didn't make any mistakes in the relationship would be completely unfair and not true to what really happened.

[@AminorMorning]

@@Rotwangsrobot001 self professed "male feminists" are always the worst from my experience.

[@tia2all501]

Tracy was a beautiful lady who has a beautiful heart ❤

[@gathrightcrystal]

We love Tracy ❤️

[@thecbglady]

We love you Tracy

[@nisa3695]

Sadly of course the good girls get trashed 😢

[@Adasteia]

Tracy is really pretty. Far more so than Courtney ! Tracy is The Girl With The Most Cake ! She had Kurt before he became strung out and hunted !

[@endlessnameless6494]

The book "Come as You are" (which was an authorized biography, from when Kurt was still alive) gives her a lot of credit, but uses the WORST pictures. I'm glad this shows her, properly, when she was young. Yes, a beauty. Kind of a Meg White vibe. Lucky guy for the time. Also, remember: Traci looks like this biologically. Courtney was ALL plastic surgery by the time they met. And even with Plastic surgery...not as pretty, lol.

[@davidhenderson9707]

@@endlessnameless6494very well noted. You can just imagine Kurt thinking “Courtney won’t like these amazing pictures of my ex”. I don’t think he mentions her plastic surgery in the book…. But now you mention that it makes you think twice about “Doll Parts”.

[@sd5884]

@@endlessnameless6494plastic or not, he was crazy in love with Courtney, her craziness, talent, charisma, punk personality while he mostly just used (and cheated on) Tracy. She definitely never had the most cake…

[@nananab.9985]

People keep using a photo that shows Kathleen Hanna and Kurt and saying it’s Tobi Vail and Kurt when it’s not… that’s Kathleen Hanna Tobis friend and band mate who also around the time Tobi and Kurt were daring inspired the name smells like teen spirit. There’s no photos of Tobi and Kurt released or much info of their relationship..Tobi is pretty private

[@bloomtv3-thealtchannel368]

some minor bits are factually not correct,- ( like the reinserted black&white photo of Kurt with a woman in a concert audience while he blows smoke from a cigarette: as far as we know this photo is very often mistaken for being Kurt with Tracy but the woman in this one is somebody else of the Olympia and Seattle creative scene. Krist later separated from his wife, today is married to somebody else) - but we love you did this docu about Tracy Marander, we think she is the too often cut off the full picture while she backed Cobain up when he completed or even just wrote 80% of Nirvana's released music. Very good job. We thank you!

[@mayjailerxx]

For everyone praising Tracy saying she could have saved Kurt, if she had stuck around a decade longer she should be ur new scapegoat instead of Courtney.

[@theseattlegreen1871]

Too bad their relationship couldn't have lasted together instead of Kurt & Courtney.....

[@sitindogmas]

beautiful tragic are came from it

[@Blisteryn]

Kurt wouldn't be the Kurt you know if it wasn't for Courtney. It doesn't matter if you like her or not.

[@theseattlegreen1871]

@@Blisteryn you know what else doesn't matter?? Your comment

[@sitindogmas]

@@Blisteryn fact! Live Through This was a killer album. most of the hater are kids that didn't live through it or people who were just not cool back in the day, fn narcs lop

[@apoembydandrangle]

​@@Blisteryn what do you mean?

[@kerstingravel8160]

For Tracy it was surely better to live without Kurt. He was too selfish and self-destructive. She deserves better!

[@GabrielaCoutinho12]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@killkrys]

To Tracy if you ever happen to see this, thank you. I know things don’t always work out but you gave this man the love he deserved and that says a lot about the kind of person you are❤️ Ik we’re just fans of kurt and the band Nirvana Itself but it takes a lot to sacrifice a lot for someone you love, I guess i’m like you in that way you’re one awesome woman

[@FredPettitIii]

She really did a great job supporting him she needs credit where credit is due I would be so grateful to have a good woman like that

[@skatemusicgamerhackveganmodder]

Maybe it would have been a different story if he had stayed with Tracy..... Kurt would surely still be alive(RIP)

[@dogsarethebestcatsaretoo6764]

She is a big part of Nirvana s history

[@MoonbloomMusic]

Kurt did give Tracy a bunch of his paintings which she could cash in on quite well if she were to sell any today.

[@howareyou857]

I believe Courtney also included Tracy in Kurt's funeral and memorial arrangements too

[@maxmotors9497]

And Patron. Tracy supported Kurt while he wrote a lot of the music we love.

[@gathrightcrystal]

TRACY ❤

[@one-stopgodshop2171]

What a lovely girl, and he burned her like that? Maybe he did deserve Courtney.

[@badbeachindustry1615]

could not agree more 😂

[@roadtriptovegas]

Sounds like she dodged a bullet

[@lpmuzza3274]

Alot of the classic songs he wrote he wrote in her home, who's to say if he didn't live there he wouldn't have come up with them!

[@VictoriaEatingCake]

@Soundscapes Rock, thanks for this video. What is the next video in the storyline?

[@odiumimbues]

tracy is a good person. you can see it in her eyes. truly a good person.

[@newwavepop]

I am not a Kurt or Nirvana fan and i have very mixed feelings on whether he was actually a decent person or not. but i cant imagine anyone does not think he would have lived a happier healthier life had they made it work.

[@JP-ve7or]

Fame, heroin, mental illness? It would have all been the same regardless, unless he was able to clean up.

[@ratsontherails]

He was human. Flawed like all of us. Gave the world much more than most people do.

[@crazyqueen4006]

Kurt was a disturbed and mentally ill man from the start. Even before the band started, he had attempts. While he’s not the worst, he definitely isn’t as innocent as people portray him as. He was a mess, and chose to live in chaos. People with trauma or is used to pain usually tend to stay in that comfort because it’s the only emotion that gives them meaning. Prevented getting help, gradually getting worse, pressure and stress, and had a hell of a wife. He was a ticking time bomb basically, just a matter of moments until he explodes.

[@Linfindores]

@@ratsontherailsand those mistakes should still be held accountable & call a spade a spade regardless of who you are what he did to Tracy was wrong.

[@ratsontherails]

@@Linfindores you don't even know them or what really happened. Just like someone on the internet has no idea about your personal relationship.imagine a stranger holding you accountable when they don't even know you. That's what you're doing. It's no one else's business and only he and her know the truth. All the rest is judgement and speculation.

[@iceWaterProductions1]

Any guy would be lucky to find a girlfriend like Tracy. I’m in my 50s never being married with no kids, wanting to play guitar and drive around the country aimlessly busking. I need someone who thinks what I want to do is cool.

[@nisa3695]

There's a lot of good females but a lot of guys don't want that, they fantasize about the fast trashy types 😢

[@nisa3695]

There are good females, but sadly a lot of guys fantasize about the fast, trashy types 😢

[@maryknight4823]

Shame they never stayed together!!, Kurt would still be here😔.......

[@hehasnolips1371]

He left because his band got more recognition and left her with nothing not even a single dime 😂😂

[@crazyqueen4006]

I don’t think it would change the fact that Kurt will still attempt. He was already suffering, even before Courtney came into the picture, she just made him worse.

[@Shadowwolf7774]

I would want to end my life if married to Love.

[@M6ydickandballss]

You would say the same for Tracy if she had sticked longer. Leave his poor wife alone.

[@UncleJunSushi]

I loved Nirvana growing up in the 90s, but hearing more about Kurt now it seems like he was a total selfish douche who used people while at the same time acting holier than thou. Not a surprise, I guess, considering he was a heroin junkie. It’s just disappointing that his musical genius somehow translates to him being viewed as someone with wisdom who should be looked up to.

[@kingcreates1379]

Not to be that guy but that isn’t Tobi vail that’s Carrie Montgomery, they never dated they were just good friends

[@ijusthis-hr7yg]

She’s a beautiful woman.

[@CheBellaTelevisione]

She and novoselic are the only two in the nirvanasphere who never said a bad thing about anybody.

[@bitty_bytes001]

Tracy was so much better…, wow what a great support for him. ❤❤❤

[@majorfeelgoodrecords2740]

Interesting story thank you very much. We all move on.🎼🤘🏻

[@Cool5380]

She seemed sweet and nice compared to Love he got after that what a cow!

[@spideranansi929]

Sounds like he used Tracey.

[@Tinka22]

08:20 what is the name of the song? Beautiful documentary, thank you so much!

[@Daniel-p8y]

What is the song playing in the end of the video?

[@djr3000]

She's like the perfect woman. Stunningly beautiful, and so kind hearted. She has the spirit of the Good Lady of the Forest for sure 🌱

[@shimmeringchimps3842]

Oof. Ladies, never be a sugar mama to your man. He'll eventually dump you and take his newfound manliness to another woman who hasn't seen him at his most broke.

[@tretre7324]

thank you tracy.

[@arielhill5711]

All women mother their first boyfriends - ask any of them. We have to teach them how to be emotionally intelligent human beings. It’s exhausting

[@INFJparadox]

She’s a Taurus like me. We are incredibly nurturing caring and loving. Then Courtney came! I will never forget the day Kurt died. Rest in peace sweet soul 💖🕊️💖

[@undergroundlady5892]

Taurus and Pisces

[@kurtsworld67]

I love you tracy

[@rubydawn1]

he was a good looking guy and she was beautiful

[@333Themangles]

What’s the piano song? In the background

[@YaBoySkelly]

if they wouldve stayed together, Kurt would still be here making history with music

[@BladimirSalazar]

Why the GC of the interview says Tracy Miranda?

[@assiaassia-vm6dh]

never trust a man lol after all the hard work and the support she have done in that relationship he left her

[@laroca-se]

I love Kurt.. but what you write is true... Sad but true .. 😢😢😢

[@ClaireLeslie-eu4tl]

Is there a book on stoicism by a female author? I’m on the hunt now.

[@rive3051]

Kurt is stupid for leaving Tracy for Courtney.

[@JamesBarker-qt3pb]

Difficult To Say

[@TheNeverists666]

@@JamesBarker-qt3pb not that difficult, Courtney is basically a walking version of the dark triad test, she literally ticks off every box, and Tracy appeared to be stable, nurturing and moral. Chances are Cobain would still be alive had he not taken heroin and dated and married Courtney Love, who greatly exacerbated his issues.

[@mahakhatib27]

Yeah, but at the same time who knows right? Maybe Tracy would be like Rita (Bob Marley's wife).

[@SilentProti]

He didn't leave her for Courtney, he was later dating Tobi Vail and seeing Mary Lou Lord when Courtney called that she's pregnant

[@brentleycraft]

Naw

[@IDontLookBonita]

Looking through these comments i think people need to keep in mind he was young, and young people nake mistakes. this man has been dead for 30 years, and did good things too! Everyone has made mistakes and we should let the man rest in peace

[@IDontLookBonita]

*make

[@GabrielaCoutinho12]

Yeah but so what? We can't comment or criticize him cause he's dead? I disagree

[@morticialilas3229]

I remember Kurt mentioning Tracy.

[@therealgaragegirls]

Sounds like Kurt kinda used that poor Tracy woman.

[@elihyland4781]

what an eternal babe

[@Ibonymaroney]

She got played by the nice guy

[@Blisteryn]

He used her and when he didn't need her anymore, he left.

[@johngammon963]

No, people change over time and they were both very young.

[@endlessnameless6494]

@@johngammon963 Yeah, this was the 90's. Way past the era when someone wanted to stay with the same person they met at 20 for life.

[@MargauxMille-v2g]

I don't think, quite frankly. If he used her, he would have chased her from the beginning which isnt the case here apparently.

[@Blisteryn]

@@MargauxMille-v2g he said in some interview he wanted his Nancy and who would be more Nancy than Courtney? He knew Courtney before Courtney knew him

[@Blisteryn]

@@endlessnameless6494 ok but Kurt was a big fan of Sid Vicious and he surely saw Sid and Nancy film, therefore, he knew Courtney before she knew who he was. Courtney is not a bad person, she was as troubled as Kurt was. That's why they loved each other, you don't know how their lives together was outside cameras.

[@anniedarkhorse6791]

I also had a boyfriend who was a scab once. I dumped him.

[@mypetcamera]

This is love. This made me cry.

[@kswone1]

I think thats great that Crist married and stayed with the same girl from before his fortune and fame amd he brought he along for the ride. He's got to be one of the realest of real men who ever lived let alone lived as a rock star

[@talkingcatsproductions1140]

Kurt had Turtles. 🐢 He just got cooler.

[@МаринаТондель-д5т]

Какая любовь? Она его содержала. Вот и жил

[@adamsamels96]

I think the timeline is not truly accurate for their dating and breakup because i heard years ago that in the same week they ended it They fired Chad Channing as their drummer and that was in 1990.

[@noveltycrusade]

I've heard this story

[@MelissaElwell-dn3sj]

makes you wonder if Kurt never met Courtney if he would still be alive

[@M6ydickandballss]

He was addicted and depressed regardless of Courtney, its not her fault.

[@swagster7]

his worst choice he ever made was associating himself with courtney

[@M6ydickandballss]

Wtf first of all he was a grown man and Courtney couldn't do much to help, if someone wants to kill themselves they're going to do it regardless. Stop blaming his wife that he loved for stuff she doesn't even had control of.

[@lowe-quay-shush]

Courtney helped Kurt to maintain being a Hair-0-wine-0 Forever.

[@MarieCamilia-c8u]

At 3:45, it's not Tracy...