KYLE HILL ROUND 2 cEDH GAMEPLAY - TYMNA|TANA vs IKRA|BRUSE vs THE LOCUST GOD vs KENRITH

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[@kylehill]

I took this deck apart after this video

[@g4greed502]

most painful way to test a deck

[@Simonk_6]

Yep

[@trveheimer6360]

i still think it can work, but needs way more emphasis on control / wheels and mulligans into careful hands. but its always a bit weaker than that newest niv mizzet they printed

[@oddball_covers]

pretty sure with dauthis it doesn't matter who exiled the card, other peoples's dauthis can cast any exiled card because they have void counters on them, no matter which dauthi it came from. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Pretty sure you are right

[@john_wick272]

Sort of... You can't cast things you own

[@Jaketg93]

Damn you beat me to it xD

[@kevinsimmons5343]

Upvoting this cause it’s correct. Both are replacement effects, but neither cares which one exiles it. All it cares about is the void counter and being on the opponents side 🤙🏼👍🏼

[@tonnie901]

here to say these things ;)

[@ModAnonMTG]

Hmm that Dockside Extortionist card seems pretty good! Maybe I should try that in my Ad Nauseam deck

[@pg-sf4rj]

Love the content as always, but which exile effect from the dauthis doesn't matter as they can cast any spell exiled with dauthi.

[@john_wick272]

Sort of... You can't cast things you own

[@SkillIssue60]

You are right. The cards they exile both go under the same pile with a void counter

[@philiprubin2431]

So quick q- if one had sacd dauthi to cast the counterspell could the one other one have sacd their dauthi to cast that counterspell, in response, from underneath the other - if neither had played the counterspell?

[@john_wick272]

@@philiprubin2431 correct. When it comes to having two Dauthi Voidwalker's with the same valid target it essentially comes down to whoever blinks first loses

[@gamersoaisis3147]

@@john_wick272 yeah, but that's just because the activated ability says so, not because of the static.

[@LLmsn941]

I'm commenting just to thank Swampy Mcgee for their continued contribution to P2W and also to my enjoyment of hearing it being said in the credits.

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

Commenting as Tyler cast void walker: It’s irrelevant which one exiles the card because either can use it as long as it’s controller isn’t the owner of the card

[@sylorknag]

Oh, thank you for shooting the first game specially for me. I really wanted to see Ikra/Bruse doing well.

[@kellyperry5009]

Love that the videos are filled with laughs, fun games 🤘

[@ebencampbell7474]

Didn't realize I wasn't subbed till today had to fix that with the quickness favorite cedh channel yall are awesome

[@stevenlorenzo7399]

4:18-4:25 that’s how to depict an Infinite Combo!!!!!

[@Paul_Johnston]

Might have missed the playmat but I'll be damned if I'm missing the sleeves. Can't get enough of the channel, been working my way through all the videos.

[@frankdetank9126]

Thanks for more awesome content! Thanks for more awesome Kyle Hill! Now, can we talk about that Christmas special you have planned? I know, you know, we all know, that the Play to Win Santa team wants to deliver the ultimate gift of a video of "best enchantress deck in cEDH."

[@notjohn2774]

Second lol, always love the episodes with Kyle Hill he's such a genuine person

[@floyd750]

Haven't played much magic or watched it for a few months now, Needed to take care of some mental health issues and just recently, As of last week, Got back into edh and cedh, Always good content boys, Absolutely love it, The commantaries, The game play and overall just the good vibes I get watching you guys, I'm excited to see next week's! Keep up the great work 😊🤙

[@mimic_ssb]

These videos always make me happy

[@JacobBos1988]

Seeds of Innocence is also a great way to deal with treasures. Also Meltdown and the classic "Mox Monkey".

[@nightreaper006]

Great game guys!!! Loved the pirate flavor😅...now try to make Beckett brass viable in cedh and your golden 🤣🤣🤣

[@cooperking5307]

Amazing content as usual!!!

[@matthewmartin9983]

I’ve played a competitive locust god deck for years! Glad to know I’m not alone!

[@deggles]

"I can't tell you how sick I am, in general, of dockside extortionist" could be the alternate title for this video 😝

[@MageSkeleton]

i'm very sure the voidwalkers regardless of whom controls it has the cards hitting the graveyard get exiled with a void counter on them so it doesn't matter how a card gets exiled, both players effectively get access to the same pool of cards where they can sacrifice voidwalker to make use of one of those exiled cards with a void counter on them.

[@ArmorBreaker88]

Im always wishing i could order the sleeves over the Dragonshield Store, cause they have EU store, and sadly 25$ for shipping just isnt possible.

[@JohnDoe-vc5qb]

Finally Chain of smog and apprentice gets a win on camera

[@lucasmcelroy2850]

Nice to see the locust god made it to an episode 👍🏻

[@a_level_70_elite_raccoon]

Holy shit, I somehow missed this game! LET'S GO!

[@johnblake255]

Love the content guys, big fan. Question: where can fans post questions or pick your brains on cedh?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Here’s good, or discord, you can get the link on patreon for that

[@johnblake255]

@@PlaytoWinMTG ok thanks. My main question to ask you guys is, it’s easy to see that Edgar Markov, my favorite commander, isn’t cedh viable mostly, especially in a combo based frame but do you think it’s plausible that he might be more viable in stax based frame instead?

[@Olson34]

Always love the content but even as a patron supporter, always miss when the sleeves come back in stock

[@adrianwolanski7475]

Sick games as always! Classic dockside MVP. Also did Tyler have two scrublands on his deck? In game 2, he fetched Scrubland with Arid Mesa and then pitched a scrubland to mox diamond the following turn (maybe one of those should have been the Badlands he complained about missing?)

[@krotash7740]

Pretty sure the card he discards to Mox Diamond is Savannah, and he misspoke when he said it was a 2nd scrubland

[@adrianwolanski7475]

@@krotash7740 ok that makes sense

[@official_uhu]

any way to get the play to win logo/picture (of the classic playmat) in high resolution? would like it as a desktop background :D

[@ryantame]

Total let down that the "AR" in Bruse Tarl was not enunciated pirate style. Keep up the great content fellas. :)

[@ivernedit4132]

Just made a blood pod myself and enjoy it a lot

[@Faries1985]

Hey guys! ehm, question! I wanted to order those sleeves, but I don't see my country in the shipping list. I live in the Netherlands, but it seems that the Netherlands is not available in the shipping list. Are you guys aware of this? Great episode again by the way! nice to see Kyle also playing! Hope to hear from you guys.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Should be good now!

[@nicholashewitt9781]

I love Tyler dropping Lavinia then not stopping cam from casting Bruse 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Non creature!

[@TheFashionfreakj86]

Anyone know where Cameron gets his dual land alters? I'm interested. I can't find those exact ones anywhere

[@supermassivi1995]

I love dockside and will never ask for it to be banned

[@uriahatkinson2103]

Great first game cam smog them out lol..with all that mana u better have won lol...

[@gabrieldasilva9521]

Locust god!!!!! My Boi! I've been talking to all of my friends for like a year saying he's good

[@p111SC]

Absolutely hilarious that cEDH has kinda become the format of cloning/reanimating/stealing Dockside Extortionist, sorta like how it was in 2012 with a certain 6/6 trampler land tutor…

[@TheSheeplesChamp]

Turns out slapping a scaling ritual onto a 2-mana, 1 power, 2 toughness creature* is... kinda good. The key difference between Dockside and Primeval Titan, in my opinion, is that Prime Time is good enough to abuse in lower power levels, while Dockside loses some potency and comboability without as many fast mana rocks. Dockside is definitely not a bad card, I just find it's got a more scaling power while PT is generally decent across the board. *Editing to add: Dockside is also a Goblin, putting it in one of the best tribes as well. The P/T emphasis is based on its tutorability with Imperial Recruiter/Recruiter of the Guard, in case that wasn't clear.

[@manshark4099]

Was typing out some of those possible misplays but forgetting some of the stax pieces that were up lol

[@magicpaul2926]

Just curious but did nobody have creature removal? Otherwise could have removed Lavinia and Dylan could have sacrificed dauthi to pyroblast the counterspell.

[@518wolf]

Could Dylan have sac'd his ranger captain of eos to cause oppponetns to not allow to cast non creature spells this turn prevent Tyler from doing anything with the dauth voidwalker ability on the stack saving them all during the last game and letting reality shift resolve?

[@gaythiestMTG]

Restock the Skull Playmat on merch site again please!!! The artwork is sick!!!

[@Serouzo]

Random thought: instead of cracking your fetches in response to Dauthi Voidwalker, since you know Dylan also runs Deathrite Shaman, isn't the better play to let the Voidwalker exile your fetchland so that the Deathrite Shaman doesn't have lands to exile for mana? Sure, the Voidwalker would be able to play the land but that sounds like something the controller would need to be in a really bad spot to choose to do anyways. The next question would be if there's value in having one more card count in your graveyard for Underworld Breach?

[@floyd750]

I guess it depends? I'm not sure, The way I see it, Giving a fetch to dauthi may not be optimal. Here me out, Giving a fetch, To another person inside a cedh game, Gives them, Mana Fixing, A deck shuffle which is never bad, It's also a permanent, They'll get a land to stick around for the rest of the game, Deathrite is a one-time use ability for 1 land, When Deathrite exiles it, Well, It's now exiled out of the game, There'll be more value for your opponents if you give them a fetch off of dauthi compared to deathrites ability, You get 1 mana temporarily from Deathrite, You get a permanent mana producer of a fetch off of dauthi, What do you think?

[@floyd750]

Than again, You're right, Dauthii is a one time activation, They would have to be in a bad spot to pop dauthi for a land, This is intriguing, But it all comes down to situation, What we see in this video may not happen to us with a dauthi, We won't have the exact game the boys had, All we do is sit/lay back relax and watch some competitive.

[@Serouzo]

@@floyd750 All fair arguments! I don't feel too strongly either way, was just a random thought for the sake of discussion.

[@floyd750]

@@Serouzo That's all good, It had me intrigued haha, Love a good chat about magic for sure!!

[@eliasmycroft1388]

Fun fact - different players don't have seperate Exile Zones, insofar as the game rules apply. There is only the One Exile, the only delineation being who owns what in there.

[@Brooks0511]

The dauthi would not matter right you could cast any spell because it just says with a void counter on it ?

[@nellesdeconinck8443]

0:39 Imagine if this is your first time watching the channel

[@dylanjohnson6481]

Correct me if im wrong but doesn't tyler fetch a scrubland and then pitch one to mox diamond meaning he has 2 in his deck

[@benjamindavidgoebel1818]

Would love to see some Malcom Kedis!

[@RIHTZ]

do we feel like Dockside will be banned anytime soon? I know the rules committee doesn't generally do bans for cEDH specifically, but the card is nasty in pretty much any arena.

[@Winterhe4rt]

Are the sleeves based on the DS matte series? If not.. what are you even doing? /s

[@hedwigow8115]

I’m curious about something. If you have no turn 1 play with mana crypt, why play it? All it does is risk damage to yourself and telling opponents you can get stuff out way quicker. Is it just to ensure it comes down before a stax piece or something?

[@Hexatomb]

lol - Kyle with the "P the T" reference.

[@Chuubii]

What is with the golden dockside extortionist?

[@stevenswayze]

this show really takes off when AnimeTiddies becomes a Patron.

[@Serouzo]

Multiple Dauthi Voidwalkers doesn't really impact the players who don't own the Voidwalkers. They don't get exiled under the specific Voidwalker, they just get exiled with a void counter on it and any Dauthi Voidwalker can access any non-owned exiled card with a void counter. They just can't access the exiled cards they own. TLDR: If you face two opposing Voidwalkers, you don't have to care which one it goes to since it doesn't go to any of them per se, and if you control a Voidwalker, you can't cast your own cards using it.

[@elemint2]

we finally see tyler win a game!

[@uriahatkinson2103]

I think donkside is on the way out lol..crazy 2nd game everyone...vold walker v.i.p

[@lucasrezende4502]

Very nice games. Dockside is OP

[@chrissamples1700]

Yall should do a video with Sakashima/Kodama, super unique

[@1Fsypro]

Echoing Ruin and Hammer Mage two decent choices for Treasure hate

[@dronezilla7554]

Are the sleeves matte or classic?

[@MrEvilGrin]

I can't believe Dockside isn't banned. Until then, every red deck I have will use him, even if he doesn't fit. Yeah I have a vampire and a dwarf deck, but why pass up on making 7 treasures for the price of 2 mana? He's an auto include like Soul Ring.

[@bundung123]

how many dragonshield sleeves does each box come with?? thanks!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Just over 100

[@cameronashton2057]

So hyped for the sleeves, but no shipping to nz 🥲

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Unfortunately usps isn’t allowing us to ship to New Zealand cause of covid. Sorry!

[@stephensilverstein4855]

Official petition to call Irkra's life gain trigger "booty-link"

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

Dylan could’ve sacced his own Dauthi to blast the counterspell

[@ryanmoore9124]

Lavinia stopped him from that play

[@oscarperezcame]

Dockside is so sick

[@joeangelsalazar3006]

Did Tyler play a scrubland and then discard one to mox diamond?

[@josephahrens862]

Imagine comboing ikra and bruise life gain interaction with well of lost dreams and boom Cameron draws 20 cards

[@endersblade]

Dauthi Voidwalker isn't a replacement effect.

[@michaelsagi202]

Wait.... Tyler pitched scrubland to mox diamond cast when he had one on the battlefield?

[@Galopino1994]

Misspoke it was a savanna

[@michaelsagi202]

@@Galopino1994 oh thanks I'm apperently blind

[@robertmitchell3030]

Dockside is certainly busted! 😂

[@Uefeti]

I see a lot of hate toward’s dockside. But i don’t think baning him would be a good idea. Every color deserves some broken/super powerfull cards. Red didn’t had much before Dockside/Breach/Jeska’s Will/Rag

[@sohweiern7216]

wait a minute is it me or did Tyler fetched for a scrubland, but then pitch scrubland to mox diamond?

[@blaisejones4066]

Can’t play Bruce in second game because of Lavinia due to land count?

[@poipoi9816]

Lavinia says noncreature spells.

[@kallemon]

If you cool cats could, would you ban Dockside?

[@aWetSaxephone]

Is that a proxy bayou?

[@andrewchan4798]

how many pieces per pack for the sleeves?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Just over 100

[@mjjdj88]

SCIENCE!!!!

[@adamkokus4972]

Cam would Angle of Destiny be worth an include Ikra and Bruse? It has double strike and with the Ikra damage trigger you would gain 16 life, I know it’s an ad naus deck so 5 cmc is a little rough… but an upside of punching someone out to the game seems worth a try.

[@colinfowler3021]

Given the prevalence of treasure based win-cons, why don't more people play Mayhem Devil?

[@SlavicMoose]

B E G I N

[@lotspeech288]

6:51 Tyler discards a scrubland to mix diamond with a scrubland in play?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

WHOOPS THATS AN UH OH

[@lotspeech288]

@@PlaytoWinMTG 💀💀 dying cause he's talking about which land to cut earlier in the vid 😂😂

[@gabrieldasilva9521]

Yooooooooooooooooooo!

[@MrLazzzyboi]

P the t sounds funny as hell 🤣 😂

[@anthonymarciano6050]

I fuxking love locust god

[@ghost64626]

Shouldn't Lavinia have prevented Cam from casting his commanders?

[@Sycord]

No, Lavinia only prevents noncreature spells with mana value greater than the number of lands that player controls.

[@ghost64626]

@@Sycord oh that's right. My bad

[@chaosegg1]

So im new to magic and After this Video im like „Is this even fun?“ on hate ofc

[@peterheinisch2294]

No one remembered the REB to stop Counterspell... sad

[@IAMYETTI25]

Kyle is hilarious when he's losing

[@dasfabelwesen]

Dockside is just Dockside...

[@JacobBos1988]

I too am sick of Dockside. Also Thoracle.....

[@StackedEDH]

Dockside seems like a good Magic card? I dunno… M a y b e

[@ferventalchemist]

They said algebra was useless look at us now. 2 (P) + 2 (T) = L

[@Areszvt]

If they ban dockside, they should thassa Oracle too

[@robertbauerle5592]

Pretty sure Dylan could’ve cast the pyroblast from exile with the void walker to destroy kyle’s sorcerer class and make dockside go even to save the game It is super hard to remember what is under a void walker over webcam tho

[@choppyhen]

I'm gonna be honest. I love the channel, and I'm slowly getting more into cedh, but the one thing that pushes me away is how monogamous the decks can be, and very limiting to what the player actually enjoys. For example, Tyler wanting a collector ouphe but not playing it in the deck because it's not in the deck list. Like, that's the beauty of commander. You can change the deck however you want. Same with the dual lands, wanting one that isn't in there. If you don't agree with it, then change it

[@therealax6]

I think it all comes down to what he said about not having updated the deck since the last time he had played it.

[@RegimentJoker]

You guys undoubtedly stack your decks.

[@noden1739]

I love my goblins but dockside is too overpowered it needs to be banned lol

[@rexone9564]

Reprint Dockside