iMac M4 After 1 Week: Apple's BEST Value Desktop Yet!

[@KyleErickson]

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[@hollyc5417]

borderline malware. shame on you for shilling this garbage.

[@RAM_Krish_InfoTech_2024]

Now-a-Days WCG (WIDER COLOR GAMUT, higher Adobe RGB & DCI-P3 values) (including 10-Bit color depth), static aspect ratio (> 1000:1) and higher frame rates (>75Hz) matters. Therefore, MSI G274QPF E2 27 Inch WQHD, Dell UltraSharp 27 Monitor - U2724D, GIGABYTE M27Q & Acer's XZ396QU, Nitro XV275K P3 27 Inch VA WQHD 384 Zone Mini LED Gaming Monitor, values more than this one, & I would highly recommend them :) 😅🎉

[@RAM_Krish_InfoTech_2024]

Mac Mini M4 or Pro + Dell UltraSharp 34 Curved Thunderbolt Hub Monitor - U3425WE is a future proof monitor and has better specs such as, wider colour gamut higher, refresh rate, and a static contrast ratio of 2000:1 👓 ☝️, one should opt for this one…… for content creation/editing purposes. It is a better replacement for Mac Studio Display……… 😅

[@kato1557]

Watching this video from my M4 iMac, love it! I've always preferred a desktop where I don't have the inconveniences of sourcing a good alternative monitor, keyboard etc.

[@jsbarto1]

I've been using my Orange iMac M4 that I configured with 32 GB RAM and a 1 TB hard drive for the past month. I am very happy with it! I upgraded from a mid-2017 build iMac Retina 4K with 16 GB RAM and 1 TB Fusion drive. I have a 5 TB external HD that I use for TimeMachine, that I also used with my previous system. The Migration Assistant process took about 4 hours. Now I need to upgrade my router from a 2017 3 GB Apple TimeCapsule, and my Arris G33 cable modem to devices that can handle the highest network speeds (3 GBs) in my area...I now have 945 Gbs download and 44 GBs upload. I wish Apple would come out with a current build TimeCapsule...buying one would be painless, and I know it would "just work!"

[@AndyJMacLeod]

If it was 27” or bigger, it would be tempting. But 24” just isn’t big enough for me anymore.

[@Wesmosis]

Great vid, greets from Edmonton!

[@bryans8656]

Thanks for another honest review Kyle, I've always been attracted to the iMacs. Since I had all the peripherals I opted for the base M4 Mac mini, otherwise I'd have that iMac on my desk right now.

[@lenn55]

I keep hoping that Apple will release a stand alone 24" display.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

27 inch 5K like it was ❤

[@RAM_Krish_InfoTech_2024]

Now-a-Days WCG (WIDER COLOR GAMUT, higher Adobe RGB & DCI-P3 values) (including 10-Bit color depth), static aspect ratio (> 1000:1) and higher frame rates (>75Hz) matters. Therefore, MSI G274QPF E2 27 Inch WQHD, Dell P series P2425E, GIGABYTE M27Q & Acer's XZ396QU, Nitro XV275U P3 27 Inch VA WQHD 384 Zone Mini LED Gaming Monitor, values more than this one, & I would highly recommend them :)

[@steveblanchard7293]

Will be ordering my iMac once I have finished doing the Christmas shopping, to replace my 2017 May 5k Retina

[@user-pu3cf9pd2m]

I've got the same one, and now that it's slowing down, I'm looking to replace it. Wish they offered the upgrade to the M4 Pro or Max chip though..

[@WebdevPath]

Where did you get that wallpaper?

[@ronitsingh85]

great review! yeah folks don't factor into account when comparing the iMac to the Mac mini that with the iMac you get a screen and a minimalistic design. Glad you compared both 'systems'. Also buying a 3rd party screen to compare the iMac with Mac mini fir the sake of keeping costs similar is not the same, you have an inferior monitor. For sure the build quality of apple is second to none, this is one of the reasons I buy an apple product, but the screen is as vital to me. For the most part, its a machine you will be staring at 99% of the time, the screen, color and all that stuff needs to be spot on! I think 24" (23.5" in reality for the iMac) is plenty of real estate for the average user, its not too big that it takes up too much space. Love all the colors but I stick with silver, I think it makes your apple products look professional and as you say a natural color. Nano texture does take the glare out but man that clarity goes down!! I will take the glare anytime over less clarity. I was at the apple store today and noticed the difference in person, save your $$ if glare for you is bearable.waited for this and bought one with 10core gpu/cpu, 512GB SSD to get the upgraded version of the iMac with 4 ports, built in ethane port in the power brick etc, This is an investment and I plan to keep it for 5yrs +. A little upgrade goes a long way. Apple is smart, their base models always leave you with something missing, its a sales pitch to get you in with the low price and upgrade.

[@Coco.theDachshund]

Would you recommend the M4 iMac to users who predominantly use Adobe software programs for work like Illustrator, photoshop, InDesign, Premier Pro? Or is the M4 Pro MacBook a better choice?

[@MichaelBordenaro]

I just bought the M4 iMac. I have it hooked up to my studio display and they are side-by-side and the blooming on the M4 iMac is noticeable. Has anyone else seen this? 

[@baileycorbett2512]

Is there noticeable improvement if you upgrade to 24gb ram from 16gb ram ?

[@ChickenCluck]

No I don't think so... technically I think GB ram only works around multi tasking... Pretty sure 16gb is sufficient...the upgrade isn't expensive so it's still worth I guess...

[@BoxerBruce]

No

[@emiespo]

Been watching like 20 videos now about M4/M4 pro macs (mostly around the mini), this is the first time I hit the like button, as you give tons of detailed information in a short video, touching *all aspects* of these machines, (including monitor quality), and making quick examples of use-cases. All with stunning visuals, well… thanks! ☺️ got a better idea of where the M4s go compared to previous gen M3s (not the iMac, but I compared also minis and MBPs). 🎉

[@tonycook1532]

Smooth, clear review Kyle, thank you 🙏

[@huberttorzewski]

What is the speed of the screen on this iMac? 60Hz or 120Hz? Is the performance enough for editing 4k 10-bit footage with v-log color grading for youtube purposes?

[@FigWidIt]

This would be a great Family Computer or Community Computer to set up in the living room.

[@ong55663]

Do m4 iMac use QD FILTERS?

[@showtimetherapy]

Which is best for KZbin video editing?(I don’t have monitors, keyboard or mouse) I need it to edit hours of 4K/5k recording and low price is really important given the channel is new and don’t generate income. Thanks in advance

[@pauljohnston3684]

I am upgrading from a 2017 iMac. I plan on learning more about photo and video editing. I don’t have a photo/video program. Can you recommend an entry level program that will work well with the new iMac?

[@fohx]

Another good thing is you can get a VESA back plate if you want to pop it on a monitor arm.

[@method341]

Yeah but how much is that lmao, $500?

[@fohx]

@ there is no additional cost. You select your option. Also, why the lmao? If this feature cost more I would have stated that.

[@512bb]

Thanks for your informative video Kyle, can you see any benefit to upgrading the ram from the standard 16GB?

[@KyleErickson]

There's definitely an advantage if you're using a lot of memory hungry apps, where you'll not only have more room to run everything effectively, but you'll put less stress on other components like the SSD from memory swapping, but it really boils down to how you use your machine!

[@RAM_Krish_InfoTech_2024]

MAC Mini M4-Pro + Dell UltraSharp 34 Curved Thunderbolt Hub Monitor - U3425WE is a future proof monitor and has better specs such as, wider colour gamut higher refresh rate(120 Hz), and a static/native contrast ratio of 2000:1 👓 ☝️, one should opt for this one…… for content creation/editing purposes. It is a better replacement for Mac Studio Display……… 😅

[@KyleErickson]

I would say that while it is a decent option, as someone who has used this ratio and resolution before, the lack of pixel density will definitely be noticeable. This Dell model also struggles with backlight bleed, has poor motion handling, and has a max brightness of 300 nits - so not great in that regard. If that stuff doesn't matter to you, it does have pretty good color accuracy out the box, and the LG IPS Black panel overall doesn't look too bad. I've got a 16:9 aspect ratio IPS black panel kicking around here still, and I don't mind it at all.

[@Kirthigan-ai-trainer]

I was thinking about using it as an extended monitor for my macbook pro. it could be useful both as a monitor and as a computer on its own would it work seamlessly ?

[@epicmattster4874]

I have a question I’m looking to upgrade my iPad Pro M1 it’s got bent baldy over a trip to la and not sure how this happened but the screen is also peeling off now and it’s getting older and I wanna upgrade to another iPad but idk wither to get the pro again or a air. I do have a insta account that I post on a lot for music and it would be nice editing thoses on the new pro and im just worried about how thin the new iPad Pro is and I bent a thicker one?

[@locxucreator]

May I ask about the wallpaper in video? I bought Spectrum from wallpaper pack but couldn’t find that wallpaper in there.

[@KyleErickson]

All the wallpapers for each pack I've made are shown in the media on each product - the one in these videos is just sitting on my computers right now! I may make this available soon, but I'm absolutely swamped at the moment!

[@Alex-sp3yo]

Hi Kyle! Thank you for your great reviews. I’m trying to understand what’s best for me: m4 pro mac mini or m4 iMac. I’m going to use my future Mac for Figma and photo editing, video calls and power point. But sometime I want to play League of legends. Also I’ve heard how hard to find good monitor for Mac not from apple. So should I bought iMac m4 or Mac mini with m4 pro?😅

[@KyleErickson]

I honestly don't know anything about league of legends, but the other stuff will work with the iMac completely fine!

[@lammie-858]

Thanks for the video Kyle. I specifically got the 10 core CPU 512 GB SSD iMac option because 1. I could not justify buying a 2 year old Studio Display IPS screen at high price and did not want the binned 8 core CPU chip from the base model. I'm so low tech could you confirm for me by upgrading to the 10 core CPU my iMac performance should match the base Mac mini? I saw some benchmarks comparison from the Verge but am not sure.

[@KyleErickson]

should be the same, yes

[@lammie-858]

@ thank you 😉

[@davidsutarik1223]

Hey Kyle.. I was considering the M4 IMac or the M4 Mini for a system to edit raw photos. That’s really the only purpose for the computer ( I’m not a gamer or video editor ). If I went with the Mini I would have to buy the monitor and everything else. In your opinion which system would be a better investment? Please keep in mind that I’m not a computer geek and everything about computers confuses the hell out of me. I can always increase the ram and storage if I went with the IMac ( any recommendations? ). The more research I do the more confused I get. I guess there’s no simple/easy answer. The Mini seems like an excellent product which makes my decision more difficult. I’m currently using a 2015 Retina IMac which is still rocking but it’s definitely time to upgrade.It seems that the IMac gets trashed by so many people. Maybe I read too many reviews. I just want to make a good decision. Any suggestions or recommendations will truly be appreciated. Thanks Dave

[@TheDanEdwards]

" which system would be a better investment?"

[@messicomps344]

Depending on how much you care about scaling (Kyle said that it isn't something that's too much of a dealbreaker), getting the dell U2723QE (500 bucks for an equally colour accurate 27 inch 4k monitor vs the 24 inch 4.5k of the iMac) and maybe a used magic mouse, keyboard and trackpad combo (could be ~200 bucks or less), and some okay speakers might be a better spend than the iMac. If you want to upgrade somewhere down the line, you'd change the mini, not the peripherals. It's also good in case you want to game on a console somewhere down the line which you'd connect to the monitor. I think the modularity of a DKM + Computer better than only the iMac. I'm not Kyle, but that's what I'd do.

[@timbukstu]

Get the m4. We ran a graphics design business on a M1 air 512/8gb. Unless your images are more than 1 terabyte. But if that’s the case you are making 25k dollars per shoot and don’t need a recommendation.

[@khamoshbhatt7434]

wallpaper link which is shown in video?

[@rolandgerard6064]

Great review, thanks.

[@powerfuljones]

Great Video. Verything looks and sounds amazing. The first video i watched of yours

[@Yamazaki339]

Why is it said that the Twitter account mentioned in the video description does not exist? 😢

[@KyleErickson]

I deactivated Twitter, I'm only on threads and Bluesky now.

[@keltonjohnson6197]

I’m not a big fan of the peripherals so for me it wouldn’t make sense. But if you like the Apple peripherals, it’s not a bad deal 😊 Also, I’d go for the green personally.

[@thomaslystDK]

Another great video from your side - love your videos!!!

[@piovalenzuela7749]

I ordered the new M4 iMac in Silver about a month ago, and it came promptly. Because I plan to use it to process photographs, I upgraded to 32 GB of RAM, and 1 TB of storage. If I need more space, I'll get an external drive. The only feature I did not like was the Migration Assistant from Apple. Since I have all the data I use in my old MacBook Pro, it was easier and quicker for me to transfer the data I want from my backup drive.

[@awsomesaharsh9906]

My M4 Mac Mini is arriving tomorrow lol

[@KyleErickson]

Great little machine!

[@ALN98007]

did you bought the base model ? or have you upgraded the rams and ssd?

[@Sopotastic]

@@ALN98007I bought base model and will upgrade add if needed it is very good.

[@Zigzag_artichoke]

Base model it’s great. Just get an external ssd

[@awsomesaharsh9906]

@@ALN98007 I have 512gb storage and 16gb ram

[@andrerodriguez7603]

I bought a Mac Mini M4 base Model. I’m in for around 1K. I bought a 4K 27” Dell P2723QE Monitor. External 2TB thunderbolt 4 external ACASIS NVMe enclosure, with a WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD drive. I’m using my older Mac USB keyboard and Mouse. I’ll use the external Thunderbolt4 SSD as the main drive with my application, which will be faster than the Apple internal drive. 👍🏻😊

[@AFAF-n2v]

I was looking for a monitor for my MacBook Air and went to our next hardware Store to take a look at the Studio Display. The panel itself was stunning, sharp and crisp as hell. But in rl i found it to be cold and chunky. Right next to it there was the new iMac and immediately I fell in love with it. Now the green one will be arriving in two days 😊

[@method341]

Can i do 4K video editing final cut pro using this?

[@BoxerBruce]

Yes. Easily

[@itsgmani]

If this had a pro chip I would have got this yesterday.

[@Bokaj1026]

Right? I’d even be happy with just the base Pro chip as an option. Giving the option for 32GB of RAM but not the more capable chip too is just a weird decision from Apple.

[@davidmuller3768]

Great review! Would appreciate to get a more detailed comparison between the iMac m4 base model to the apple studio with the Mac mini…having a hard time to decide here… Thanks ❤

[@davidholley9023]

Have M1 iMac great computer by the way, but decided to bit the bullet and have ordered the M4 iMac, should be here in a week or so. If it is as good of an upgrade as reviews suggest then it will be a worthwhile upgrade But it is just disappointing that Apple has not and does not seem Interested in updating the screen to at least 27” Why has no one called them out on it, and asked why, don’t get me wrong I have no problem using the 24 But if Apple were to introduce a 27 or larger screen then I’m all in By the way Kyle have just subscribed to your channel, great review, keep up the good work.

[@keijiazum9282]

i feel 24’ is too small

[@jansix4287]

I love my M1 iMac. Albeit this year all desktop Macs have replaceable SSD modules, except the all-in-one iMac. This changes the value proposition in favor of the Mac mini. 🖥️

[@kamertonaudiophileplayer847]

Certainly. you calculations are amazing and yes, iMac is a better choice than Mac Mini. Mac Mini is for convert people, who have everything and want to try Mac.

[@j340_official]

iMac cannot be used as a monitor for another machine. And it’s resolution and refresh rate is locked to the one that ships from the factory. so if/ when m4 is outdated you have to throw the iMac away. Or if you want a higher refresh rate you can’t use the soc inside the iMac with the new monitor. To me the iMac is a bad buy if you ever want to update the monitor or the SoC

[@jamesbeadman1288]

Im still holding out on my M1 iMac, waiting for that early 2025 32" M4 Pro iMac Pro. I really hope it happens. I also really hope it isnt £5000

[@davidjacobs6244]

It won’t happen.

[@errolchouest895]

Depends on how much desktop space I have. Lots of desktop space IMAC, but not much desktop space then its Mac Mini for me.

[@wonow7674]

Apple should try something new and add a battery 🤷

[@Agnoletta]

If I didn’t already have all the peripherals, I would get an iMac. But i do.

[@Harry_Sama]

I like my mechanical keyboard, low latency 2.4GHz mouse with a good charging placement, and my high refresh rate monitor. MacMini is still a better deal if you already own peripherals or don't want the terrible ones included by the iMac.

[@RAM_Krish_InfoTech_2024]

Now-a-Days WCG (WIDER COLOR GAMUT, higher Adobe RGB & DCI-P3 values) (including 10-Bit color depth), static/native contrast ratio (> 1000:1) and higher frame rates (>75Hz) matters. Therefore, MSI G274QPF E2 27 Inch WQHD, Dell UltraSharp 27 Monitor - U2724D, GIGABYTE M27Q & Acer's XZ396QU/K, Nitro XV275K P3 27 Inch VA WQHD 384 Zone Mini LED Gaming Monitor, values more than this one, & I would highly recommend them :) 😅🎉

[@Bushidounohana]

“Don’t trust the trash can!”

[@thatampguy]

“Value” generally means you won’t be happy with it after the honeymoon period.

[@ostrogonov]

El doblaje a español, la pantalla Studio Display, que cuesta la friolera de "15 dólares y 99 centavos", 1:57 🤣🤣🤣

[@gregoryberrycone]

its cool but i don't think it can beat the value of the mac mini

[@TheDanEdwards]

Recommend people order more than 16GB RAM. Software developers (including Apple with MacOS and Apple Intelligence) are going through another round of bloating their products, with the addition of "AI" (whether people want it or not.) In a couple of years 16GB RAM is going to feel tight.

[@timbukstu]

Ironic you say that, I ran a small graphics design business for 4 years on m1 air 512/8gb. No issues and each project made over $1k. I would say the 16gb is good enough for 4-8 years for 95% of the people.

[@keepitraw1]

Thx G

[@TrusteftTech]

In this video I keep seeing CPU temp over 101C, to 105C. Is that for real? This is not some Intel power hungry CPU. Why hasn't Apple done something better with cooling? Disgusting. In general, I am still disappointed there is no 27" iMac. It's what stopped me from getting an M1 iMac, and if I had money it would probably still be one of the reasons to not get an M4 one. Thanks for the video.

[@stefan_becker]

It simply doesn't make any sense to throw a fully working display into the garbage can just because you need a faster cpu in the future. Therefore iMacs are a "no go" for me.

[@messicomps344]

"don't trust the trash can"

[@KeremKrm-p3u]

Why Imacs are so slow?

[@KyleErickson]

they aren't!

[@KeremKrm-p3u]

@@KyleErickson They are so slow. I am using Mac mini m2 16 ram with external gaming monitor which is literary faster then IMACs. Why?

[@renelv3731]

Die Werbung zu CleanMyMac ist nicht als solche gekennzeichnet.

[@romaingaillard8725]

If you could plug in a ps5 and use the display only it would already be on my desk

[@youcantsiumee]

Kyle Goatson

[@thanesh_]

never trust the trash can

[@medygv6907]

With the mac mini I can have more ram and storage for less money and I know it may sound stupid to some but I just don't like the design of the iMac XD I feel that monitor with those edges looks ugly. I already have two big monitors and I think I'll just buy a couple of accessories, I'm very excited to get my Mac Mini.

[@Act1oN1]

60hz display is such a turn-off...

[@knofi7052]

It's nice but 24" is a no-go for me in 2024.

[@caliberbarbershop]

Always cheaper on apples education store. No proof needed. You’re welcome

[@akin242002]

Outside of the 4.5k screen and camera, I don't see it as valuable due it's price and functionality issues. - Crappy Magic mouse 🐁. - No Type A port. - Starts with only 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports. - Only 256 GB of internal SSD storage. - If something breaks, the whole thing needs to be replaced. - High-priced at $1,300. - Expensive RAM and internal SSD upgrades at initial puchase.

[@akin242002]

With the M2 to M4 Mac Mini you can get a lot more for less. The only thing you won't get is the amazing screen resolution at that price of $1,300. Example using the new M4 Mac Mini: - $800 for 24 GB RAM and 256 GB of internal SSD storage. Including a more powerful 10-core CPU. - $100 for an external storage with Samsung T9. - $205 for an LG QHD 27-inch monitor with 144hz refresh rate. - $28 for headphones 🎧 or speakers. - $33 for a 1080p 60hz web camera. - $20 for a wide mouse pad. - $26 for a wireless mouse and keyboard from Dell. - $20 for a dongle from BaseUS that includes an SD card reader and 3 Type A ports. Total = $1,232

[@akin242002]

@@KC-bi9jw Because older customized mouses or other accessories that are still good use a Type A port. For those with a desktop setup previously, this saves costs of getting new accessories. The only benefits of a Type C port are 20+ Gbps data transfer speeds and safer removal of data from USB sticks. The M4 Mac Mini has two 10 Gbps Type C ports in the front that could have been Type A ports.

[@IgnoreSolutions]

swap the mouse out for whatever mouse you want

[@علیناصری-و6ي]

i,m in iran.this m4 mac mini and pro an cheap or ordinary device for you.but for me is an huge and impossible price for boy.our monthly work price is 150 dollar😢😢each one dollar is 700000 our rial potato.what is my sin😢😢😢born in this place😢😢😭😭🤧🙏😩❤️

[@timbukstu]

I still think the base mini 16gb/256 or 512gb is the one to get for 80% of people. In a year you can upgrade the ssd with a third party ssd since they are super replaceable.

[@sergebureau2225]

The Mac Mini is a total waste, al acessories are totaly overpriced, the iMac is a much beter choice, plus it loks much beter

[@newsnetworkz]

Exactly what I did, went with M4 iMac instead of M4 Mac mini to reboot with M series Macs😂