Something's Up... Why the Hell hasn't this missing PCT Hiker been found?

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Kyle Hates Hiking

Kyle Hates Hiking

Күн бұрын

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@brooklyncly
@brooklyncly Жыл бұрын
I’m Kris’s cousin, this is amazing. Thank you so much for this video and keeping Kris’s story alive. 💕 Our whole family misses him every single day and have never stopped praying and looking for him. He is always in our hearts and I know one day we will find him. This video brought me to tears. Thank you so so so much for this. 🥺💕
@Ray-Willey
@Ray-Willey Жыл бұрын
Do you think it's possible he is living in the wild?
@barbdixon7785
@barbdixon7785 Жыл бұрын
Or crossed into Canada?
@hertribe1978
@hertribe1978 Жыл бұрын
@@Ray-Willey No No and No
@hertribe1978
@hertribe1978 Жыл бұрын
@@barbdixon7785 I wish it could be possible, but no I don't think Hris is alive.
@crzyautochic4807
@crzyautochic4807 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys talked to David Paulides from Missing 411?
@gccbtc
@gccbtc Жыл бұрын
Kyle….I’m Marsha Fowler, Kris’s aunt. Thank you for this video and keeping this story alive. I believe one day we will have answers but till then there is a hole in our hearts that only he can fill. I’m Glad you talked with Sally….she’s been beyond amazing since day one and has never given up and helped so many others while searching for Kris. Thank you again. I’ll be sharing this on my Facebook as well.
@kathymc234
@kathymc234 Жыл бұрын
Hi Marsha, Please consider sharing your story with Mr. Paulides at Missing 411. He is a retired LEO and investigates a specific range of missing persons cases. One group is men in good health, hiking and a storm camp comes up. Please consider it. I wish you the very best and am sorry for the stress your family must be experiencing.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Hi Marsha! I just saw your comment. Sally was so helpful, it's touching to see how dedicated your family is to keeping Kris's story alive. I hope he is found soon.
@velocitygirl8551
@velocitygirl8551 Жыл бұрын
The gear thing isn’t weird to me because his body has never been found … the gear is with his body.
@Imakebootysclap
@Imakebootysclap Жыл бұрын
Im sorry for your loss and pray you and your family get closure
@ronaldsmith6336
@ronaldsmith6336 Жыл бұрын
​@@velocitygirl8551 but it's not !!
@juniyananajukyu
@juniyananajukyu Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a USPS mail handler in Central CA that dispatches the mail for Inyokern, CA. Anyways I see a lot of packages come thru for the PCT hikers, that they hold at the inyokern station. I personally make sure to to secure those packages so they don't get busted open in transit cuz I know it's going to help someone out there hiking. My prayers go out for this hiker and his family. I hope they find closure.
@ANPC-pi9vu
@ANPC-pi9vu Жыл бұрын
Well, you guys shouldn't be letting any packages get busted open, lets be real. lol But I'm glad you're extra mindful of people's provisions.
@Initwithlove
@Initwithlove Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@robertsorbello7288
@robertsorbello7288 Жыл бұрын
Book,cook,look,etc .. anyhow, keep up the great work!
@cheyannebrown4321
@cheyannebrown4321 7 ай бұрын
You had me going, thinking you saw his name on a package or something lol
@Salty-cracker68
@Salty-cracker68 6 ай бұрын
I’m from Ridgecrest
@timothyrice6017
@timothyrice6017 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing his story Kyle. As a search and rescue volunteer for over seven years in western Washington, this is more common than most people realize. Sometimes people go missing out there, and they are never found. That is the blunt truth unfortunately. It is my opinion that he is obviously off trail, and most likely due to a fall. The person's gear is on them in their pack, and they are unable to push the SOS button on their device for help. So if this is the case, and he cannot be seen from the trail due to brush/trees, the odds on him being located are unfortunately very low. I will leave you with one thing to think about, and this is not a bash on solo hikers whatsoever. I get it, I backpack too. I have never searched for two missing people, always one.
@TheKro16
@TheKro16 Жыл бұрын
YES! THIS! Solo hiking something like the PCT especially adds extra risk to yourself.
@glory5918
@glory5918 Жыл бұрын
activation of his SPOT could have located him ! and yes never hike Solo as David Paulides Missing 411 states nor without a Personal Locator Beacon !
@sarahcrain792
@sarahcrain792 Жыл бұрын
This is such a sad 😢thing when people go missing all the time it’s horrible and heartbreaking for the families /friends out there The first time I saw this story on KZbin I too was thinking the exact same thing that that his stuff hasn’t been seen by any other hikers yet since 2016 in my opinion I was thinking ether he’s got hurt somewhere off trail and all his stuff is in his backpack and it’s on him and he’s probably behind some tree’s/bushes were no one else is able to see him or his stuff Or the second thing I was thinking is that he probably hitchhiking and got a ride from someone and if he did maybe whoever picked him up wasn’t a good person and did the unthinkable I hope that that’s not the case and I truly hope that he gets found
@llorylloyd
@llorylloyd Жыл бұрын
@@glory5918 I follow Dave I believe these missing and unfound hikers and equipment are in another dimension... Alien abduction... Bigfoot... Or there's something our g.ov.t is hiding and that's why these cases aren't a priority there's no recorded number of missing hikers or dates etc without David P we wouldn't even know the sheer masses of people missing and the location hubs
@Kai77-24
@Kai77-24 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you for your insight.
@matthewwallinger4383
@matthewwallinger4383 Жыл бұрын
I met Sherpa on the trail in 2016 at the base of San jacinto. One thing I will say regarding the potential sightings, he wasn't a character you would easily forget. We only had a brief chat but I still remember him like yesterday. Tall, bearded, thick hemp necklace, chacos. No one else on trail looked like him. Dude hauled ass in those sandals too he blew right past me.
@hugmynutus
@hugmynutus Жыл бұрын
A women was declared missing in California, despite a massive hunt for her body (she went missing before a snowstorm in the mountains), nothing was found. When they did find her body is was
@DesignRhythm
@DesignRhythm Жыл бұрын
Yep, sad but true. Have u read "The Last Season"? Somber, yet fantastic book if u like the PCT.
@Julia-b9x
@Julia-b9x Жыл бұрын
That’s why map & compass and knowing how to use them is so important. Death is so unnecessary in those cases. So sad. Same thing happened with a woman on the AT in Maine.
@Chahlie
@Chahlie Жыл бұрын
I knew a woman who disappeared several years ago and I still hope to come across her body leaning on the back side of a tree :(
@toxic1698
@toxic1698 Жыл бұрын
​@Julia Some basic survival skills would also help, it's one thing to walk down a trail to another to get lost in the woods.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 Жыл бұрын
Agree. The PCT is a vast area with much of it lightly and randomly traveled. There's inclement weather, the harshness of extremes of both hot and cold. There are a few deaths every year from hiking in the West.
@JulieGayheart
@JulieGayheart Жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! Thank you for sharing about Kris "Sherpa" Fowler and the Fowler-O'Sullivan Foundation. Kris's mother Sally is a very close family friend and it is just heartbreaking there is not more information about Kris. I have had Sally on my podcast in addition to Cathy Tarr from the Fowler O'Sullivan Foundation. I wish that more hikers with platforms would share like yourself to get the word out there about Kris and the importance of hiker safety. The work the Foundation has been doing for the families of missing hikers on the PCT is amazing. Thank you again for sharing.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
No problem, thank you for sharing the story as well!
@Firstthunder
@Firstthunder Жыл бұрын
I’m certain that you help bring hope to this family. Love and light
@slowp100
@slowp100 Жыл бұрын
I lived near White Pass for many years. Once you are a short distance away from the actual pass, there is no cell phone coverage. Also, if he became hypothermic, he could have wandered some distance away from the trail. People get disoriented in a storm and when they become hypothermic. We've heard of people being found dead, after having removed clothing during a storm. The best bet is that a hunter, not a hiker, will find him. That is what often happens. It's rugged, isolated country. Oh, and just for info, Chinook Pass is a seasonal highway and is closed during the winter, so it cannot be relied on if one manages to slog through a heavy snow to get there.
@LifewithAlelee
@LifewithAlelee Жыл бұрын
Was about to mention that! I lived in Packwood WA in the winter, for a while almost a decade ago, and was always told never to go anywhere near white pass especially during storms. If I recall it was often “closed” during massive storms right?
@slowp100
@slowp100 Жыл бұрын
@@LifewithAlelee Actually, the White Pass Highway is usually the last one to close during storms and avalanche danger. There is a ski area there and a few skiers have taken the wrong way down. Sometimes the ski patrol rescues them, sometimes a hunter finds the remains.
@LifewithAlelee
@LifewithAlelee Жыл бұрын
@@slowp100 it’s a little ski town so That makes a lot of sense! That is so sad though. Maybe the season I was there was just a super heavy one. I recall it being closed at least once. The more ya know! Thanks for sharing with me! ❤️
@release-joy
@release-joy Жыл бұрын
I live in Wenatchee and have backpacked and explored this area for 50 years. I remember that October storm it was early with deep snow. This is the first year in a long time that a hiker has not gone missing. These mountains are so remote and rugged, and in places the trail is on the crest of high peaks. More than likely Chris stepped off the side of a mountain. PCT hikers need to be in Canada by October first so they don't get caught in these storms and wear beacons so they can be found. I pray that his family finds closure.
@rossginn1171
@rossginn1171 Жыл бұрын
Wenatchee and Leavenworth are some of prettiest terrain I’ve ever seen too. I sure have an amazing story to share about one of my trips up there!!!
@cayennenaturetrails8953
@cayennenaturetrails8953 Жыл бұрын
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 Жыл бұрын
100 gps. It may not have the sos button to get rescued, but many many times I'm these cases people just get lost. In this case, he had gone that far and wanted to complete it so he made a poor choice to try to beat the storm.
@neilestenson6595
@neilestenson6595 Жыл бұрын
White Pass to Chinook Pass would be easy to get disoriented and lost in during an early winter storm event. I've experienced an early winter snow event when bow hunting elk North of Chinook Pass near the Cascade crest, things get serious real fast if you're 10 or 15 miles from a way out.
@freyjaravenclaw3577
@freyjaravenclaw3577 5 ай бұрын
I agree. I live near Yakima. He is probably at the base of a cliff or ridge. White pass can get very nasty
@clandouglas5456
@clandouglas5456 Жыл бұрын
I live by a section of the PCT and have talked to a number of hickers. I was completely shocked by the high percentage of them that had no clue on how to navigate useing a map and compass, they 100% relied on a GPS device. Being retired U.S. Army Infantry, I know a bit about land nav and to NOT rely on electronic devices, which can fail without warning, to keep track of your location. My advice, if you can't adequately and reliable land navigate with a map and compass both day and night, you have no business being in the "wilderness", period.
@LilyGazou
@LilyGazou Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@alphakilo7005
@alphakilo7005 Жыл бұрын
Most aren’t even doing that. The PCT is a big ass trail right in front of your feet…until it’s completely gone from 8” of snow in a few hrs in a heavy early storm. He most likely missed a switchback and just kept going, tried to backtrack too late and his tracks were covered.
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 Жыл бұрын
Dear clan: I am surprised about the ignorance of people regarding orientation to the earth they are treading on. As an engineer and a private pilot, I found the same situation with recreational pilots, or just regular old private pilots. Many of them cannot follow maps, nor do they know how to navigate properly or use the instruments properly. These pilots are called “IFR.“. This means, “I follow roads.“ The actual meaning of the acronym IFR in aviation is “instrument flight rules.“ Which has to do with flying Using only instruments, such as in severely obscure weather conditions.
@tundranomad
@tundranomad Жыл бұрын
Former 11B here, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I would only add that compass and map reading are perishable skills. Keep honing those skills, and there is no shame in taking refresher courses.
@beebester4106
@beebester4106 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have stated this before and was shocked at the kickback I got from it. People need to learn how to off trail hike and use map/compass orientation. It's like anything it takes practice but you will end up being infinitely more competent .
@videosdeecologia7468
@videosdeecologia7468 Жыл бұрын
I've been hiking for 27 years. I've seen a lot of natural things and strange people on trails. Nature can be surprisingly bizarre. It occurred to me that this young man might have sought some kind of cave or large rock to take shelter near the path. Perhaps some large tree or rock fell and blocked his path out off the cave - or buried the young man. That would explain why nothing was found... And these things happen. Here in Brazil there was a very bizarre case of a boy who fell into a mighty river and ended up in a hole - but with air - under water, under a small waterfall. When the river receded he managed to get out and when he got home a few days later the family and friends were making his funeral with an empty coffin... The family was very scared but happy... The most bizarre thing is that he was with more people and everyone saw him disappear and then they did searches and nothing was found... The air bubble and strong water rapids noise prevented the people to listen his screams for help... And then he still appears at the wake itself. Then. In nature everything is possible...
@DeerDeer777
@DeerDeer777 9 ай бұрын
😳
@NPCHSN
@NPCHSN 5 ай бұрын
You should stop watching television.
@angelface889
@angelface889 3 ай бұрын
Wow what a miracle 😮
@jamiecloud1897
@jamiecloud1897 Жыл бұрын
If the storm were severe enough, he may have become hypothermic/disoriented and gone off trail and may have fallen down a steep ravine where no hikers go. It's possible that he was carrying all of his gear at the time. A situation very similar to this (minus the hypothermia) happened to my cousin's cousin at Yosemite in August of 2000. Her name was Ruthanne Ruppert. The remains of a boot and her backpack were found down a steep ravine eight years after she was lost by two search and rescue dogs that were actually searching for another missing hiker and came across the items from Ruthie.
@moshunit96
@moshunit96 Жыл бұрын
I think you're underestimating just how vast an area that is. He could be a few hundred yards off trail and nobody would know. If there was snow like you said its very easy to lose the trail. This type of thing isn't very unusual. There was an older woman who went missing on the Appalachian trail and it took a few years to find her still in her tent 400 yards off the trail. She even kept a journal while waiting for help. Search teams missed her camp by a few yards.
@thisisgettingold
@thisisgettingold Жыл бұрын
I would just start a forest fire. Sorry y'all. I ain't dying for no reason.
@discodecepticon
@discodecepticon Жыл бұрын
2 miles off the trail. and the searchers were a 100 or so meters away.
@incemomnia
@incemomnia Жыл бұрын
Her story was so sad. I always kinda held it against the husband for not joining her in her passion and hiking with her. I mean yes, he would stay in hotels at the stops along the way, but I could never imagine leaving my s/o to walk that alone.
@andrewwaggoner1831
@andrewwaggoner1831 Жыл бұрын
​@@incemomnia i certainly dont blame him,and he had to be worried sick. Keep in mind she started the hike with a friend, who unexpectedly left the hike part way, both that hiker and her husband tried to convince her at that point to quit this particular hike,and not continue solo. She had already gotten lost a few times on this same hike,and the partner had to redirect her ,despite her being argumentive and combatant about being corrected. It was already a recipe for disaster. She seemed a great person, but elderly (weaker ,slower), headstrong , and way over confident. It was a sad situation.
@SonicAndTrippy
@SonicAndTrippy Жыл бұрын
I was just coming to the comments to say this exact story. Wondering if this hiker could have done something similar.
@shudoo8062
@shudoo8062 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, I wouldn't question your knowledge or experience. After all I randomly landed on this video. However it isnt unheard of for Search rescue members to be just mere feets away and not be able to see through the foilage. Likewise hikers to lose all sense of direction and take their last breath just meters away from the trail they were originally looking for. I recommend reading the Seattle times article on Rachel Lakoduk. It's an amazingly well-written, yet heartbreaking, story of the 2-year search and the volunteers that go out of their way (with its critics) to carry the torch when official capacities can only go so far with countless of new rescues and emergencies. I hope and pray that Kris and his family can someday find their peace and closure. Don't lose hope. 🙏
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth Жыл бұрын
My old friend's sibling went out for a dayhike in a much less strenuous place. After seeing his car in the day parking lot for three days, rangers called for a full SAR. The sibling's body was found at the base of a very steep deep cliff next to the trail. Apparently he had simply gotten too close to the edge, plunged down out of sight, and struck his head on the way down. If his car hadn't been at the trailed for too long, no one would have even known where to look. Incidentally, the FBI reports some quarter of a million missing persons reported and never found, every year. Good luck with Chris. Sign in and out of log books--they are for your safety.
@irenepalmer7597
@irenepalmer7597 Жыл бұрын
I used to hike alone but after hearing a lot of these missing peoples stories and they were usually alone hiking I made a decision not to hike if I am alone. Just doesn’t seem to be a good thing to do anymore. So sad for this family.Also the GPS device should always be carried and active. I pray they find him someday.
@randomcomment6068
@randomcomment6068 Жыл бұрын
Carrying a satellite gps sos phone is a life saver.
@emily.g.929
@emily.g.929 Жыл бұрын
A satellite phone is invaluable in hiking situations.
@theedmee
@theedmee Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they're not exactly affordable yet. The mini Garmin with an SOS button Kyle talks about in another video is plenty, and connects to the very same satellites.
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 Жыл бұрын
I was born on a farm and like you spent lots of time in the woods alone. After a little affair in the French alps, I looked back at all the times I got lucky not to have something bad happen and how many times I put myself in a position if something bad happen how screwed I would be. I remembered a book I read on that mountain in France about native Americans. First he was stuck in an ice storm like I was. He said normally you don't move. He was being chased I was freezing. I remembered how he said to focus on each step and if you lose focus, stop and get it back. He also said native Americans really never went very far from the village alone. A minor problem can turn into a major one without help.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 Жыл бұрын
​​@@theodoresmith5272 It's not just the weather, the Pacific Northwest is bear and mountain lion country. Going there without protection like bear spray is madness.
@pourtoukist
@pourtoukist Жыл бұрын
I live in a city in Norway where every year there is a hike that goes by all the summits surrounding the city. And each year several thousands people participate to that hike. This year, the hike took place last Sunday, and that day I went for a short walk on a summit nearby. And I was really surprised that despite being less than 500m from the hike and having a direct view on it, I could barely see or hear anyone because of the trees hiding people and deadening the sounds. I am not surprise someone can disappear in the woods, despite having all of their hiking gear with them
@dawnelder9046
@dawnelder9046 Жыл бұрын
Farmers going out to their own barns in snowstorms have disappeared, never to be seen again. Our garage, which is not that far from our house has dissappear from sight during snowstorms. Our woodshed is attached behind and we always make sure we have enough wood in the house and we also have an emergency case right on the front porch when we know a storm is coming. Trying to go out there in a snowstorm could land you who knows where.
@AmyB1961
@AmyB1961 Жыл бұрын
My brother in law said he'd sometimes have to attach a rope to himself to go out to the barn during calving due to blizzards. In ND.
@vivian2217
@vivian2217 Жыл бұрын
​@@AmyB1961 Very smart person!!! Wish more people would realize how dangerous a whiteout can be
@onmyway7363
@onmyway7363 Жыл бұрын
In the old days in Wisconsin, the farmers tied a rope from the house door, to the barn door, according to my Dad who lived during that era
@wout123100
@wout123100 Жыл бұрын
@@onmyway7363 nowadays a lot of people are not so sensible anymore, dont know why. getting too civilised maybe?
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 11 ай бұрын
​@@wout123100uh, no.
@kickerofelves85
@kickerofelves85 Жыл бұрын
I know some people don't seem to enjoy these videos but I'm all for it! Not only does it spread the word to hopefully find missing hikers and bring closure to their families but it also can help people learn from other hikers stories so hopefully they don't find themselves in similar situations.
@wout123100
@wout123100 Жыл бұрын
even if it only makes a few more people making better preparations,,this is very worth it.
@Whynotcreate
@Whynotcreate Жыл бұрын
I've learned that everyone should have their own gear bag incase you get separated
@edwardbenton4428
@edwardbenton4428 Жыл бұрын
There's Bill Ewasko, Joshua Tree NP. He went missing late June 2010, found by accident February 2022. His remains were found far from where SAR people thought he would be found. Outside is a big place. ATB, hope he is found, and returned to his family.
@gwmtnbiker
@gwmtnbiker Жыл бұрын
Great job covering this strange event. This section is an hour from my home. We here in Yakima know the story well. Many of us have walked every sidetrail & space where one could a ride out a storm…no evidence of him whatsoever. It’s incredibly perplexing. My “gut” leans towards the Greenwater scenario. Sherpa wouldn’t have needed to get all the way to Chinook Pass either. There is a “bail out” trail halfway between the passes that leads to highway 123 and a quick hitch into Greenwater. The whole thing is so surreal….
@kaiserwilhelmnh932
@kaiserwilhelmnh932 Жыл бұрын
I'm a firm believe in Occam's Razor. Removing all unknowns and hyptheticals will give you your answer. He headed out in a storm, got lost, disoriented and possibly hypothermic and died of exposure. This is very similar to what just happened here in NH with Emily. All the crazy sh*t people came up with was ridiculous. The truth was she got lost/hypothermic, wandered off trail and succumbed to the elements.
@youtubesucks-yx6kk
@youtubesucks-yx6kk Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the world we live in is a lot more complex than that.
@AmyB1961
@AmyB1961 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubesucks-yx6kk Not usually.
@drewodessa2483
@drewodessa2483 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, well your bombastic assumptions and obstinance started a war that got 28 million killed last century.
@jablanbukvovski
@jablanbukvovski Жыл бұрын
@@youtubesucks-yx6kk no it's not
@youtubesucks-yx6kk
@youtubesucks-yx6kk Жыл бұрын
@@jablanbukvovski 🧐
@pap4539
@pap4539 Жыл бұрын
I'm a hiker/backpacker (not a thru hiker) who found your channel via another of these missing hiker videos popping up in my algorithm. I'd love to see you keep doing these. it's an important reminder to keep myself and others on our toes a little bit when doing solo hikes. it's easy to become a little too confident and easy to forget how fragile we are as humans.. especially when the weather turns. Thank you for doing these videos!!!
@mommajones3217
@mommajones3217 Жыл бұрын
I'm suprised we never heard of him. We live close to Greenwater, camping and visiting that area & their bar/restaurant alot. It's 1of my favorite places to escape too... Seeing this reminded me of a homeless man we met this last summer of "2022". On our way to the shooting range a blonde haired man stopped us to ask for a smoke. We made small talk and he tried to sell us a diy cigar/blunt or cigg snuffer he'd made out of large shotgun shells. I notice his tent (which was similar colors as the tent shown here) because it was really big for 1person... We spent about 2 weeks camping out there this trip and saw his tent every time we drove by. Probably not the same guy but eerie none the less looking back. Very nice man. I remember being suprised and impressed at his posative attitude while homeless. I couldn't help but admire his lack of shame and happiness. I thought, "if I ever go homeless, I'd wanna live out here fishing too bud"... Prayers for this hiker and his family🙏🏼
@douglaslaher2955
@douglaslaher2955 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for raising awareness about Kris and for the great work the FOF is doing. Prayers to Sally. She’s a fierce advocate for hiker safety!
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug!
@frankjones3671
@frankjones3671 Жыл бұрын
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@tracedef
@tracedef Жыл бұрын
I leapfrogged and sometimes camped with Kris in 2016 as we headed North on the PCT. There were a handful of issues with how the search was conducted, a primary one being that "bear hunters" claimed to have seen him in an area that is way beyond the scope of where he was capable of getting to given the storm and his circumstances, resulting in search resources being placed in the wrong area. The bear hunters’ story was then disproven when pictures on their FB profiles placed them at a football game the dates they had their "sighting", but long after the fact. I moved to Portland in 2018 for the sole purpose of searching for Kris, but I only got a fraction of the routes I had intended to do done ... the area was too large and my resources were too small. I was unable to get the main search group to share their GPS tracks so myself and others could insure we weren't wasting our time walking routes already walked, so my hope is that those issues have been resolved for the sake of finding Kris. I believe Kris will be found, hopefully sooner rather than later.
@zach3305
@zach3305 Жыл бұрын
That seems suspicious
@hertribe1978
@hertribe1978 Жыл бұрын
You really should talk with Sally Fowler she is doing all the searching today and has the GPS coordinates also.
@benjamintryon813
@benjamintryon813 Жыл бұрын
I hiked in 2016 and always found this story interesting. I never knew about the two other sightings, and they do seem more credible. However, having no credit card or cell phone activity in either towns seems super unusual. You know as a hiker that as soon as you get into a town you are going to turn on your phone. And especially at Mazama, he would have definitely got something to eat. I do hope one day he is found. Also, if you have ever hiked with any significant amount of snow on the ground, it can be very easy to lose the trail, or think you are hiking on the trail when you are not.
@chrisstiles7155
@chrisstiles7155 Жыл бұрын
I left the trail on October 12t,2016 @ Stevens Pass. The previous 4-5 days was really rainy & flooding. I spent nearly 3 days in my tent prior to the 30 year cyclone storm that dumped almost 3-4 ft of snow. I would’ve been screwed if I hadn’t pushed nearly 20 miles to get out to the pass. I made it to the road with No Food. I learned about Chris not too long after
@wayphun72
@wayphun72 6 ай бұрын
You should not judge other men's ability and strength as a man which never had it in the first place.
@kennethblackman3234
@kennethblackman3234 5 ай бұрын
I ve hunted from bumping lake to the Pacific Crest trail . Some of the steepest country I ever hunted.. Swamp Creek is most definitely not a place for man or beast...
@TraciFix
@TraciFix Жыл бұрын
Not knowing where he is has to be his family's worst nightmare. As a hiker myself this is scary and sad. I hope he's found so his family can be at peace. I live in Washington and the weather in the mountains can change on a dime.
@adventureswithfrickandfrack
@adventureswithfrickandfrack Жыл бұрын
We’ll be hiking the Oregon and Washington sections of the PCT this year. We will definitely keep an eye out. Great job with this video.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ronaldsmith6336
@ronaldsmith6336 Жыл бұрын
@@KyleHatesHiking Kyle please get in touch .I believe that I have info on Kris fowlers gear and it's location ..
@dutchess406
@dutchess406 Жыл бұрын
​@@ronaldsmith6336 what about his body
@ronaldsmith6336
@ronaldsmith6336 Жыл бұрын
@@dutchess406 I have not a clue .where his body is. I can only hope and pray that there is still something left of his gear after 3 years . @Dutchie there was a set of snowmobile tracks that went around where gear was left .I have always thought it was a snowmobiler. It was during COVID lock down essential workers only.. April 10 of 2020 so it's most likely a local resident from Snoqualmie pass .or they own a second home up there .. IMO. Also who ever found his gear and left it in the parking lot will have to be found before Kris will be found ..or he is alive .!! and he is the one who sat hidden in a late 90's green Honda Civic and watched my kids and I as they searched through his pack . My daughter pulled out his spot device and asked what it was .. I barked at her to put it away that it wasn't ours to touch she said there is also a cell phone in here too .told her I don't care leave it alone. It's not ours .!! told my son we are being watched. someone is in the car watching us . So I took a walk with his stocking cap my dog freaked out on it so bad I finally threw it in the trees to keep her from it .we left shortly after I returned to the car ..
@DesignRhythm
@DesignRhythm Жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle, Thanks for raising awareness -this is very sad to hear as I absolutely love the trail. We will definitely keep an eye out for these guys. 💜🙏 A couple thoughts come to mind 1.We ran into a nasty snow storm on the JMT section one July and literally couldn't see the trail from snow cover, even tho it was clear just hours before. Just sat in the tent for 2 days and didn't see another person until 5 days later down the trail. So if something like this happened when Sherpa ventured into that storm, he may have gone off trail to seek shelter / less wind? and was injured or something? (but yes, not typical we would abandon the trail). 2. We have had a few run-ins with some sketchy locals; granted 95% have been very nice / hitch rides / trail angels, etc. but had some weird stuff too (in WA State mind you). There seemed to be some resentment for sure, as the trail has gotten so busy in the last decade. Always have to keep your guard up and definitely recommend hiking with at least one other person. Peace, El Fiasco
@glory5918
@glory5918 Жыл бұрын
activated Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) is a MUST carry per David Paulides Missing 411 and Never hike solo.
@morethanamazed8210
@morethanamazed8210 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, do you remember when rocks and dirt came down while you were on a very narrow piece of trail? If you were alone and had been swept down the slope, would you have been found? I think this is why people should not hike alone.
@michaeldahms7006
@michaeldahms7006 Жыл бұрын
This is immediately what I thought as well. Then the hiker and their gear would be swept away from the trail and likely not visible to other hikers.
@dangaspar1707
@dangaspar1707 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but...I will still hike alone and accept that risk. I saw the signs this summer for Sherpa and thought the same thing.
@generalmartok3990
@generalmartok3990 Жыл бұрын
You're right, it can happen. It's all about the level of risk you find acceptable. I love my friends, but most of them don't love the outdoors as much as me. So I accept the risk and hike alone.
@gwmtnbiker
@gwmtnbiker Жыл бұрын
All spaces below cliffs and steep slopes between White and Chinook have been searched quite throughly. Heavily trafficked area. Perplexing.
@DesignRhythm
@DesignRhythm Жыл бұрын
Yes, like just south of white pass is that razor's edge in the Goat Rocks which got rather hairy. If he fell in mid October, that is the start of the weather turning so if he was out there all winter there may be no trace come spring from the wildlife activity. Also u see random gear all the time, so u wouldn't necessarily think something nefarious happened if u did find it. Man, scary stuff.
@jmkats
@jmkats Жыл бұрын
I haven't hiked this section but if it's similar to sections to the north, I slipped off the trail lined with berry bushes. The down slope was a cliff and I needed assistance to return to the trail. There wasn't anywhere to get a foothold. I probably would have fallen a long distance and been buried under those bushes if I had to drop. This was not due to snow or ice but due to trail that was slipping off the contour.
@AllTheHappySquirrels
@AllTheHappySquirrels Жыл бұрын
I'm a local hiker and think often about what might have happened to Sherpa. Thanks for bringing attention to his story.
@LittleChena
@LittleChena Жыл бұрын
I follow his disappearance since 2916. I firmly believe that he got caught up in the storm and left the trail due hypothermia. As far as I know he hiked in sandals, also he lost weight due the long hike he already did. I’m from Alaska and we lose every year a lot of people to hypothermia. It comes fast and silent. I know of people who got hypothermia after a short summer rain. His decision to hike on besides the severe warnings and not using his InReach shows that he wasn’t aware how dangerous the situation could be. One of the first symptoms is that people get disoriented and making irrational decisions. Maybe he went of trail, or wandered along a other trail. The problem is we apply common sense when we start to search for someone but the the missing person with hypothermia didn’t. He can be off trail just for a mile and the chance to be found in this area is zero. Also people don’t go fast being in a snowstorm. My feeling tells me he didn’t made it miles down the trail. Just remember Geraldine was under 2 miles from the trail and it took years to find her. I really hope one day there will be answer for the family. Nothing is worse than not to know.
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 Жыл бұрын
Yes - this seems credible. Many thru-hikers don't have much mountaineering experience - they are used to groomed trails in good weather. And to save weight they often skimp on the gear they would need to stay safe in a truly nasty storm. Things can go south fast if you don't keep warm, and keeping warm when you are working hard and sweating is not a trivial skill. He may well have left the trail through disorientation or to search for shelter...
@albtckl
@albtckl Жыл бұрын
Are you a time traveler??
@LittleChena
@LittleChena Жыл бұрын
@@albtckl LOL… I wish!
@wout123100
@wout123100 Жыл бұрын
very logical yes and very probable.
@charm2800
@charm2800 Жыл бұрын
@@tullochgorum6323 exactly, they don't get the severity of PNW storms
@LacrimarvmValle
@LacrimarvmValle Жыл бұрын
My dad and my brother used to go ride on trails like these on their mountain bikes on the weekends years ago, and my dad signed up as a volunteer in a search party for a missing hiker here in the Canary Islands since the hiker went missing on the area he used to ride and knew by heart, and also he could access some areas on his bike where other volunteers couldn't by foot, and as a father of 3 himself it tore him down meeting with the family... Rescuers kept his contact information in case they needed him again, and sure enough not even a month later they called him again, and he's been on numerous search parties since... I hope they find him 🖤♥️
@nelsonx5326
@nelsonx5326 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he doesn't want to be found. Went off grid and living off the land. But his family would know if that was his style, or dream. I imagine there are bears and mountain lions in those forests. Watch some bear videos and see how bears are an occasional hunk of bad reality. I hope he surfaces to tell us an amazing story. I wish I could have done some of this kind of hiking in my youth, when I had energy. Paying child support kind of locked me into staying close to a reliable full time job. People, do some living before getting trapped on the hamster wheel. Being a father has a brought me incredible joy, but it's a great responsibility that requires sacrifice. Kids cost money. Free of needing money is the start of real freedom.
@HuggyBearHikes
@HuggyBearHikes Жыл бұрын
Well since 1988 there have been 16000 people that have gone missing in Alaska. Sometimes it takes years before any remains are found.
@ericschwartz9982
@ericschwartz9982 Жыл бұрын
Coincidentally I'm headed over to that area next week, weather permitting. I typically backpack in the Olympic National forest and wanted a change. I noticed on the WTA site that Kris was last seen October 12, 2016 in Packwood, which is SW of Chinook Pass and at the foot of Mt. Rainer. I cannot fathom having a loved on go missing. I'll definitely keep Kris on my mind when I'm over there.
@russellinthebush2897
@russellinthebush2897 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle, this is a sad story. Things can be lost forever not far off the trail. I've camped a few places not far off trail, where I knew if something happened to me, I probably would never be found. The O'Sullivan story is really distressing as the whole hiking community was denying he was lost while his family in Ireland were frantic to find out what was going on.
@Joezark67
@Joezark67 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this happens way too much in these national parks, we've had a few missing hunters that were found but both had sad endings and very suspicious. I pray they find him and he's okay.
@wout123100
@wout123100 Жыл бұрын
it happens so much because a lot of people making wrong decisions there and unfortunate accidents do happen, nobodies fault.
@tb4876
@tb4876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. For the update. I hiked the pct that year but ended my hike at shelter cove. I've Been following Chris's case. I too find it odd that not a trace has been found of him.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
it is quite odd. I hope someone finds him soon
@marksc1929
@marksc1929 Жыл бұрын
Kris missing is one thing.. but not finding any of his gear is another .. curious as to if he was carrying a gun or weapon of some sort … because I do .. everyone should while hiking, whether for bear , mountain lions or whatever … the woods / forest etc can be beautiful.. even therapeutic… but there’s always the danger element.. whether it be wild animals… or even worse , evil human beings…. Praying that Kris will show back up one day with an interesting story.
@Chahlie
@Chahlie Жыл бұрын
I had a cougar on my place kill a fawn and bury it and for the life of me I could not find it. I didn't start digging, but could smell it, had seen the fawns and the cougar on trail cams and there was just no sign at all. Last summer I very nearly stepped across a bear which was sleeping in the shade of a dry creek bed. The best thing people can do is wear colours like bright blue or neon. Too many go out wearing khaki and camo.
@randyholloway920
@randyholloway920 Жыл бұрын
I was always surprised he was at white pass so late in the season. Mid-October Washington weather is sketch. It can change and deteriorate very, very quickly.
@toadevergreen2561
@toadevergreen2561 Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced Shin Hook but with a silent H. Chinook describes a conglomerate of native tribes of the Pacific Northwest that all spoke a similar dialect, the Chinook dialect. Some of their people's are subsumed under the Grand Ronde tribes of Oregon and they are a currently underrepresented Native group despite their history being woven into important pieces of Pacific Northwestern history. Apart from Chinook pass, a species of Pacific salmon also share the same namesake in a similar vein. So yeah it's "shin ook" - pronounced like "hook" or "book". I remember seeing Sherpa's missing person signs when I went through that area of the PCT in 2021 but I never found any of his gear either.
@johnmca5643
@johnmca5643 Жыл бұрын
I remember this story. I live in Seattle and i've been a PCT trail angel here for many years. If I remember correctly he left White Pass heading north. A female PCT hiker also did the same, but they weren't together. The weather was nasty and alot of snow was coming down. If I remember correctly she turned around and luckily made it back to White Pass. She was reported missing, but again walked out on her own. Chris was never seen again. It doesn't take much snow to cover the trail. He could've had an accident only 100 feet off the trail and may never be seen again. The chance of leaving the trail at that exact spot and finding his gear is low. Chinook.... it's the name of a salmon. Chinook salmon.
@maggiesfarm7970
@maggiesfarm7970 Жыл бұрын
Pronounced shinuk
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 Жыл бұрын
It's also the name of a down-sloping wind that warms the air. A Chinook coming down the Front Range of Colorado is responsible for sudden temperature increases in the Denver area.
@NoxCattus
@NoxCattus Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I thought I knew of him, but wasn't sure. Your comment reminded me how-this story was all over the WA hiking groups I'm in back then....
@terrinopp
@terrinopp Жыл бұрын
We were planning to go back packing / hiking up by Goat rocks when Kris disappeared. After reading about this we decided against going up there. It was too weird. He isn't the only one missing.
@mikecary4480
@mikecary4480 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, the Greenwater Naches Tavern sighting makes the most sense. It is the closest community to Chinook pass (rhymes w/rook). I live close to Greenwater, there is almost non existent cell coverage from William O’Douglas wilderness area to & including the very small community of Greenwater. The Greenwater store is small and is not an ideal resupply and closes early. It is possible that Sherpa tried to hitchhike further to Enumclaw where there is cell coverage and large grocery stores. This is another 20 miles west and may be a logical progression. Mike
@cailin5309
@cailin5309 Жыл бұрын
This gives me uncomfortable feelings .. I’ve seen “random” gear ditched before on trails and thought twice like hmm that’s weird but then kept on walking. I wonder how many other people do the same 😢 we should I guess normalize making a big deal out of nothing because you never know right?!
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 Жыл бұрын
I generally report it to whatever rangers have jurisdiction, but you do find really weird stuff out in the middle of nowhere.
@jcbaily5559
@jcbaily5559 Жыл бұрын
Though I am not a backpacker, I do enjoy listening to the various stories of backpackers and you do a wonderful job of being so passionate and honest about those folks you talk about. I have read other cases of hikers going missing and never found and in my ignorance, I can't seem to come to the realization that this happens so frequently. I have been on various hikes before when I would vacation in Washington and Oregon but the trails I followed were merely to photograph waterfalls and seldom were they very long hikes, just basically 1-2 hours in length! So, when I hear of hikers disappearing and never found I am rather dumbfounded in trying to understand why! I guess I am not that type of risk taker to alter my plans by going off trail for whatever reason, especially, if I don't have back up emergency equipment. Thanks for the work you put into your reviews and I look forward to reading more of your vlogs. Take care and have a nice evening.
@GingerKC
@GingerKC Жыл бұрын
Kyle, what you've done for this family is a beautiful gift. I pray that somehow, someone will discover the truth behind his disappearance. That'd you'd take your time and effort to help is so wonderful. You're so helpful.
@rossginn1171
@rossginn1171 Жыл бұрын
I know a lotta of us may not be able to afford personal locating devices but geeesh it seems like it’s something that every hiker that is out for long hikes MUST use one. The amount of missing people with little to no trace is alarming tk sayvthe least. I hope he is located soon
@Samanta-van-laar
@Samanta-van-laar Жыл бұрын
Some went missing with that so not always helps i geuss
@rossginn1171
@rossginn1171 Жыл бұрын
@@Samanta-van-laar really?? 😳
@pruefus4113
@pruefus4113 Жыл бұрын
He had one but didn't activate a subscription because companies value money more than safety
@wout123100
@wout123100 Жыл бұрын
@@pruefus4113 as he did too.
@lh3540
@lh3540 Жыл бұрын
Phones are getting sos satellite. Iphone already has it, Android is getting 2024
@patrickdolan.
@patrickdolan. Жыл бұрын
I always carry a 0 degree mummy bag and waterproof gortex bivey that zips up around the sleeping bag. Really not that much extra weight and gets small in a compression sack. I can sleep in a snow bank if I need to right out in the elements. I think it's crazy not to especially in those areas
@joeglennaz
@joeglennaz Жыл бұрын
I hope you also carry a personal locator beacon, and I don’t need a spot or a satellite communicator. I mean a true personal locator beacon made by ACR
@FrankiesFancy
@FrankiesFancy Жыл бұрын
If you can't find him, you're not going to find his stuff...right? He would have it with him, wouldn't he? The stuff is with him, you can't find him, you can't find his stuff. I'm not a hiker. I know nothing about it...there may be some things they do that I don't know about but it's seems like common sense to me. Perhaps Sherpa has just "run away"? People do that sometimes. Whatever the case, I can't imagine not knowing where your child is so I pray mom finds some answers soon. It's a beautiful thing that so many are out there looking and trying to help. Thanks to all of you. And thanks for this channel helping too.
@minimutt1408
@minimutt1408 4 ай бұрын
If you die out on a trail and are missing several years, nature tends to scatter your belongings. Wild animals, wind, rain, gravity, etc. Watch some of his other videos and you'll run across stories where that happened.
@staybrokeadventures8312
@staybrokeadventures8312 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correct the trail crosses a dirt road in that section and u have to follow it for a little bit and the trail reappears to the right. Very easy to miss, even on a clear day.
@mtthielsen8342
@mtthielsen8342 Жыл бұрын
I'm just a section hiker and outdoorsman, but I did accurately guess where the James Kim family would be found, as well as the Higginbotham family,... both cases were in the same area. My friend in SAR, indicated they are not approving of rouge or individual ideas, so don't place to much credence on what SAR says. Anyway you can look up how those turned out. But in this case, I also have to use occums razor,...if I was nearly hypothermic on a trail, (and have been), I would immediately go downhill on a side trail, and then look for a flat spot for a tent, in this case, to the west, as that is where towns are.
@minimutt1408
@minimutt1408 4 ай бұрын
It sounds like he was to the east of Mt Rainier. Downhill would take him from snow to rain and be further east. If he lost the trail I'm thinking he finds and follows White River, which runs near the bar he was allegedly seen.
@jimhenderson387
@jimhenderson387 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding job, Kyle! You obviously have a real talent for this kind of storytelling. I hope you keep it up.
@TheGoodDirtbag
@TheGoodDirtbag Жыл бұрын
Hey!! We were on the trail thru-hiking the same year! I was just talking about this case and how we can learn from other hikers that have been found. If you remember seeing Sherpa’s flyer you might also remember seeing the missing hiker’s fliers from the high Sierra trail. I am so saddened by both of these disappearances and I remember pondering them many nights out on the trail. Especially when I did get to White pass and eventually up near packwood on my 2022 thru-hike (which was also disrupted by wildfires, not sure what yours was disrupted by but I’m guessing🔥). Thanks for this great video. We should all be focusing on finding and remembering missing hikers and how we can continue to do the most to protect ourselves for us, our friends and families.
@jessejameshollywood2161
@jessejameshollywood2161 Жыл бұрын
When we pass through Palm Springs on the I - 10 you can see San Jacinto and San Gorgonio peak and The PCT goes through those frightening mountains I can’t imagine how difficult it is to navigate at night & in a snow storm 🌨️
@eliseott
@eliseott Жыл бұрын
Being in Washington during a storm in mid-October is no joke. And the trail can definitely get obscured by snow. I could definitely see wandering pretty far off trail without necessarily realizing it, then getting disoriented and not being able to make your way back. I hope his family gets closure and that he is found one day. ❤
@stevengagnon4777
@stevengagnon4777 2 ай бұрын
I don't think alot of poeple understand how quickly the trail dissappear in the woods when it snows . I doesn't even take a blizzard for that. Once there is a few inches covering the forest floor it all looks the same. Your visibility is greatly reduced and not knowing the land marks. If you try to navigate during the snow fall your foot steps also dissappear quickly.. So what looks like the trail is often not the trail. A few hundred feet down that one and you may never find where you left the trail.
@Bikeadelic
@Bikeadelic Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hike a trial like this one day. But these stories are the reason I wont be doing it alone.
@puckwrx1
@puckwrx1 Жыл бұрын
Have family in that area. Been looking for Sherpa all around there. Great video. He allegedly stayed in a trailer on someone’s property. But to leave the area is strange.
@entwurfung
@entwurfung Жыл бұрын
There are personal locator beacons without subscription plans available. They normally only can send an SOS, but if one does not need the communication features they are a cheper alternative for safety.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't know this, thanks for sharing
@entwurfung
@entwurfung Жыл бұрын
@@KyleHatesHiking One example would be the Ocean Signal rescueME PLB1. It is originally intended for sailors, but used by some hikers. The satellite coverage is supposed to be more extensive than on satellite communicators because a public search and rescue network is used as opposed to the private iridium network most communicators use. In case of an emergency the local public search and rescue authorities are alerted. Wether they are any good surely depends on where you are. I am sure there are other PLBs that work like this, and might be cheaper alternatives to subscription based options.
@notquiteultralight1701
@notquiteultralight1701 Жыл бұрын
My brother in law gave me one of these last summer for my birthday. Its made by resqlink. Its just the epirb beacon but it was extremely appreciated for sure. I’m thinking about picking up the zoleo as my cellphone is fairly new and I’ve got a powerbank.
@fatboy48768
@fatboy48768 Жыл бұрын
Just came across your video. This is odd. Another weird one is David O'Sullivan who came from Ireland to hike and mysteriously disappear also
@stevengagnon4777
@stevengagnon4777 2 ай бұрын
Kyle. I was a deer hunter . We all wore blaze orange caps . Why? Because ii was the first thing you noticed when another hunter was a hundred yards away. This can be seen well before the sun rises and after it sets even in poor conditions. A blaze orange ball on a fiber glass pole would last for decades. These could easily mark a trail with a man made object . They could easily be placed on the trail on alternate sides of the trail. Point being that anywhere between them on the trail you would be able to spot the one ahead of it and the one behind it. The cost of this would be minimal and carried out by volunteers. If this saves one life the effort has become priceless . So many high visibility materials available that the optimal details of the object would be easy to do. These would also increase the chances of finding the trail again if one did get off it.
@1129buttons
@1129buttons Жыл бұрын
I heard solo hiker, in a storm, who hitchhikes. I do not think this case is too hard to guess what may have happened, unfortunately.
@justdanie7613
@justdanie7613 Жыл бұрын
Randomly found this page, im not a hiker like that, but have hiked before. The SOS think he mentioned, the guy needed a subscription!??Thats ridiculous. I think in emergency situations, a subscription shouldnt even matter
@42022coop
@42022coop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your work into this case I wish there was coverage like this for all the MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS MEN AND WOMEN across Turtle Island. Hope all people are found 🙏
@kimkremer8915
@kimkremer8915 3 ай бұрын
There will be, some day. And it's long overdue.
@aksez2u
@aksez2u Жыл бұрын
I think most disappearances are probably caused by the simplest and most mundane circumstances. For instance, walking just a bit off trail to seek shelter under a tree or in a cave and then getting lost or injured. That said, missing hiker stories are also some of the most tragic and perplexing mysteries. I hope there is some resolution to this disappearance soon.
@Hyena1986
@Hyena1986 Жыл бұрын
theres multiple stories of people who live on the pct following people and coming for them in the night.. the pct goes through states with bad drug habits and homelessness.
@andrewmacdonald7106
@andrewmacdonald7106 Жыл бұрын
I think it's great that you are keeping this story alive but I also think you underestimate just how difficult it is to find the remains of someone in these wilderness areas, for a variety of reasons. You have to look no further than the case of Geraldine Largay who went missing along the AT in Maine less than 2 miles from the trail. Despite an extensive search she was not found for two years and then only by chance. Then there is David O'Sullivan who vanished near Idyllwild. You combine a fall down a sttep slope and wild animals and the lack of a precise location to search and its no wonder than these hikers have not been found, sadly.
@rolfrobertson6404
@rolfrobertson6404 Жыл бұрын
My friends, I know hiking a trail like this is a achievement to do alone. But, never hike alone or without protection. When your alone you become a target, and not just from humans.
@kinnymane8593
@kinnymane8593 Жыл бұрын
My pistol is never out of arms reach, I’m genuinely shocked that people will literally go into the wilderness by themselves without carrying
@wasidanatsali6374
@wasidanatsali6374 Жыл бұрын
People traveling or camping alone are the mostly likely victims —of predatory black bear attacks. Over 70% of fatal black bear attacks involve a single person. Only 9% of fatal black bear attacks occur when 2 or more people are present. The common belief that a mother black bear with cubs is the most dangerous kind of black bear encounter is inaccurate. Lone, predatory, male black bears hunting people as a potential source of food are the greatest cause of deadly black bear maulings.
@btnhstillfire
@btnhstillfire Жыл бұрын
Some ppl dont have anybody that will go w them…🤷‍♂️
@tim1883
@tim1883 Жыл бұрын
@@wasidanatsali6374 I am calling BS on this. Black Bears are very rarely aggressive to humans. Don't believe me, look it up. Plus, I am in the woods with them often.
@RealBoiJare
@RealBoiJare Жыл бұрын
Lolol. Say you aren’t a true hiker without saying “I’m not a real hiker”
@vissitorsteve
@vissitorsteve Жыл бұрын
I am so moved by your videos, especially videos like this where you investigate and report on missing hikers. You are so valued by the families. Grateful new sub!
@sharonjepson3860
@sharonjepson3860 Жыл бұрын
Such good sightings and valuable information and yet not been found? This whole thing seems so bizarre. Thank you for introducing this story and keeping it active. His family still has such hopes as we all do even though in not knowing him I pray he will be found or something happens as it shows him having gone so far. Did something happen where he does not remember? I pray his family finally get some answers and be with them all in keeping his story alive and not forgotten. Bless this mother for taking pictures of all his gear. That is so helpful. Prayers for word or his whereabouts will come for those who love and care for him so much.
@aimlesslyrunning5127
@aimlesslyrunning5127 Жыл бұрын
in the south we say Chinook as in "Shhhh-Nook" as in book lol *Theory Disclaimer* With the gusts of wind and a storm if there are any ledges along the pass it's likely he could have lost his balance and fallen or been struck by something and fell with it, That would explain his gear still being with him and thus not recovered. I would definitely expand the search to area's below any inclines off trail. I've been known in my past to brave a storm before not knowing how bad bad truly is and slip in certain regions and then have no where to set up camp and have to keep "trekking", this would explain the bar tenders story. After an ordeal like that however I'd dry out my belongings, wash them and get some much needed rest in town before heading back out unless I was so very pressed to finish on time but even then it would be highly unlikely I'd go back without at least changing and drying off first. Packages can be somewhat traced as well with the USPS even at least to an arrival point/last documented point. If it didn't arrive that's one thing but missing does sound like he may have received it or someone else did using his name. I Definitely think logs should be kept in the future to help out any other families of missing people. It's so very sad, thank you for covering these videos it really does raise awareness.
@wadewoehrmann2835
@wadewoehrmann2835 Жыл бұрын
If he built a shelter out of branches or climb into a hollowed out log it would be very hard to find him and his gear if he passed while trying to stay warm....
@distilledfreedom1840
@distilledfreedom1840 Жыл бұрын
Just a thought. The last time I went to Naches I pulled off the road to relive myself. It was dark and I nearly stepped off a cliff that dropped at least 70 feet. There's no sign and at night if you're walking and not paying attention it's quite possible to just plum walk off the world. The spot I believe is up the road on the right side. I wonder if that precipice has been checked?
@robertknowles2699
@robertknowles2699 Жыл бұрын
Kay Knowles broke he neck at night away from her tent; kind, soft spoken cousin from Michigan near Detroit.
@shadowprovesunshine
@shadowprovesunshine Жыл бұрын
​@@robertknowles2699so sorry for your loss. Thank you dor bringing awareness.
@semosurvivalist
@semosurvivalist Жыл бұрын
When something like this happens we always like to ask why hasn't something been found that they were carrying or wearing but the truth is there have been many people found such as Park rangers and others who have been missing for decades some and the reason their gear nor them wherever found is because people just didn't go 50ft farther during original searches. Someday somewhere somebody will run across him wear his gear. Hiking's not all fun and games you know that. Even the most experienced outdoorsman to ever grace us have perished in extreme environments. I do hope for the family's sake he is found soon!
@bobandvickiw
@bobandvickiw Жыл бұрын
Excellent well prepared presentation, direct, concise & to the point. Without senseless rambling & editing fillers.
@TheHikingChick1
@TheHikingChick1 Жыл бұрын
You're doing a great job on these missing hiker videos. I'm very sure the families are grateful for you keeping their loved ones' stories alive.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Sally was very grateful. It's important to keep these stories in mind, thanks for watching
@sbdreamin
@sbdreamin Жыл бұрын
Based on the fact he often hitchhiked, and that locals in that area have some sort of resentment towards thru hikers, it's possible he is not lost on the trail and someone did something to him while hitching. Hence, no gear being found.
@BraaapoholicBob
@BraaapoholicBob Жыл бұрын
I don't hike...I ride dirt/adventure motorcycles often times in remote areas alone...always have my Garmin Inreach with me. Think about how many lives this thing could save and how many missing hikers would be found. Here's an idea...maybe not practical but hear me out...on the PCT and other major trails would it be possible to have a system of check-ins every so many miles...like a small solar powered device where each hiker could check in with a card key or something. That way we would know approximately where they went missing and concentrate a search. I don't know just an idea.
@Stickit2daman
@Stickit2daman 8 ай бұрын
I thru-hiked in 2021 and thought of him so, so often while on trail. I grew up in Ohio for a bit just as he did. I remember getting chills when I first saw the posters, having made it up into WA. I have since moved to WA and often head out to the Mike Urich cabin, within the bounds of where Chris went missing. I’ve gone off path all around the area but haven’t ever found anything. Not sure why I feel pulled or compelled to, but perhaps one day something can come of it. I’m praying he will be found one day, he and his family deserve peace.
@joelmatlock173
@joelmatlock173 Жыл бұрын
I hope really hope that your bringing this incident to more people's attention will help bring closure to Chris's family and other families that are also missing their loved ones.
@sheilagadde5975
@sheilagadde5975 Жыл бұрын
Prayers for Kris and his dear family. Thanks for reviewing his Case.
@lewisdoherty7621
@lewisdoherty7621 Жыл бұрын
I think there is a hidden threat in many of the western mountainous areas. There are numerous old abandoned mines. They have airshafts and sinkholes which develop into the mine due to water and collapses. Many of these mines may never have been properly documented. I can even see situations in which some miners dig into another's claim area and fail to document that activity. Someone could slide into one of these hidden shafts with their backpack and equipment and become asphyxiated as they become crushed between the walls. While I assume there is a process the state and federal agencies go through to identify and render these old mines safe, some of these hazards might be missed. There are also natural voids and crevasses in mountains. If someone went down one of these would search parties really notice? These areas may be covered by vegetation. I'm not sure how to properly probe for and eliminate these. They could explain the quick and complete disappearance of people. The mountain swallows them up.
@seanogrady5093
@seanogrady5093 Жыл бұрын
Very respectful video by the way both of them have been. I really enjoy this content. And I think it's really awesome. You're keeping awareness up for some of these missing people. Thank you! Keep up the great work!!!
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean!
@whatkjsaw4461
@whatkjsaw4461 Жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm 😊 Reviewing these cases is a great thing, I’m sure the families of hikers appreciate your support.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Sally was very appreciative. As long as the response is good from my audience I will keep doing them
@amandabricker3059
@amandabricker3059 Жыл бұрын
Loving your videos! I am from Oregon and love the PNW. When I heard this story while living in Northern California it made my heart just hurt for his family, it’s so sad to hear he is still missing(I’ve moved to Michigan). I hope he is found so his family can have closure. ❤️ The pronunciation of Chinook is Shh- Nuk. It’s from the Native Chinookan people that were established there. People get really hung up on Skamokawa, Touchet, and Tshletshy, too. 😅
@dieone1310
@dieone1310 Жыл бұрын
I hiked, leaped frogged and hung out at the THC with sherpa in 2016. I got off trail at white pass a couple of days before he came thru. I hope one day Sally and his family gets answers for his disappearance.
@tonyborelli.
@tonyborelli. 4 ай бұрын
keyword THC🤨
@dieone1310
@dieone1310 3 ай бұрын
@tonyborelli. I'm not sure if you're making assumptions or have stayed at the hostel im mentioned but in case you're just making assumptions about the THC= The Hostel California in Bishop, CA. It's a small hostel where we hikers stay, Bishop is a hiker town in southern California during the hiking season.
@tonyborelli.
@tonyborelli. 3 ай бұрын
@@dieone1310 oh sorry. i dont speak man-bun.
@dieone1310
@dieone1310 3 ай бұрын
@tonyborelli. awe, you're a little cutie pie. 💓
@OldPackMule
@OldPackMule Жыл бұрын
Good on you for bringing this to light. The community will certainly jump in where it can.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
I sure hope somebody finds him
@rogerc5645
@rogerc5645 Жыл бұрын
These stories are a great addition to your channel, Kyle. Very interesting stuff that brings awareness. Thank you!
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger! Glad you like these videos
@Theotherlostprimarch
@Theotherlostprimarch Жыл бұрын
So many folks who cover some of these missing 411ish stories forget the folks they talk about have families who are still looking and still hurting. You didn’t. Very well done.
@simonwalsh9185
@simonwalsh9185 Жыл бұрын
I've heard of a few cases of hypothermia setting in so quick people freeze with warm clothes & safety in their pack. Hopefully they find him , bring peace to the family.
@FloridaSalon
@FloridaSalon Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone choose topics that could help society. Well done.
@phishfanvt
@phishfanvt Жыл бұрын
Really like these missing hiker episodes! Keep it up
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
will do robert
@tadharsh678
@tadharsh678 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Always something to learn from these stories.
@oldjeeper2394
@oldjeeper2394 Жыл бұрын
There are multiple reports of missing, solo, experienced hikers, missing every year. Some are found, some are not. Established trails don’t mean safe in the wilderness. Bad weather, deadfall trees and branches, rockfalls, etc. Then there’s the others on or near the trail factor. So he had a Spot GPS locator but didn’t activate it🤨.
@originalsixx
@originalsixx Жыл бұрын
Great video, Kyle. I'm enjoying this series and hope you continue to make more videos like this.
@KyleHatesHiking
@KyleHatesHiking Жыл бұрын
I will continue making these so long as people keep asking for them! thanks for your input, and thanks for watching!
@thekidcomn5938
@thekidcomn5938 Жыл бұрын
Sorry about this. I really hope your family gets closure and peace on this situation. Best wishes.
@lukepaulson3428
@lukepaulson3428 Жыл бұрын
Great video with detailed information. So upsetting for the family. Likely all his gear is with him, far from where anybody has searched. Thanks Kyle!
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