Kyrian Sub Rogue DPS guide - Shadowlands PvE overview

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Palumor

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@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
The comment section has informed I was wrong! Poisons should be MH - Instant, and OH - Mind-numbing! Mind-numbing allows for you to shiv off enrages and slow mob attack time!
@Nspeedtheone
@Nspeedtheone 4 жыл бұрын
Shiv does not remove enrage effects anymore
@scottschoenmann987
@scottschoenmann987 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nspeedtheone It does with mind numbing poison on.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does! I thought the same thing as you Nick. As Scott is saying though, you just require to be wearing mind numbing poison and the tooltip will change!
@Nspeedtheone
@Nspeedtheone 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor oh well. Nice to know 😎
@Majinxxt
@Majinxxt 4 жыл бұрын
Yes thats Right
@chapstikcrazy
@chapstikcrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. The skills break down and explanation starting at 5:10 is so incredibly helpful. So many tutorials/guides just tell you what to do but you don't learn the mechanics or purpose behind it. Respeccing tonight to sub, and I am really appreciating the info!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely welcome. I am so happy I can help, hopefully you can continue to find my content useful! I try to upload every 1-2 days as of now with helpful rogue info! :)
@chaotiic9985
@chaotiic9985 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed. How you don’t have more subs with the amount of detail you put in, is beyond me. Pikaboo is great but he speaks faster than a mouse with ADHD on speed when it comes to explaining his rotation
@_rosski
@_rosski 4 жыл бұрын
These guides are fantastic, you are a really approachable guy and down to earth. Thank you for all the effort you put into these video's. You have helped me go from Noob rogue to not so noob. Thanks man
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That means the world to me Ross, so happy to help man. :)
@Lowgn
@Lowgn 4 жыл бұрын
Came inTo SL a brand new Sub Rouge main. This helped a ton compared to other videos. Thank you!
@Goosmuch
@Goosmuch 4 жыл бұрын
This was an absolutely wonderfully laid out explanation. Short and to the point. Also, how simple and genius is it to show a slow motion of the opener! I must admit I've followed icy-veins, which told me to go Night Fae for Sepsis (which I like, but it's probably not as good as the Kyrian one, thanks to the mastery component). As others have said, a mythic or mythic+ playthrough would be 10/10!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. These comments really mean the world to me. I'm really happy I can help out. :)
@Shyatic
@Shyatic 4 жыл бұрын
As a person who hasn't played the game in 5 years, this was probably the most informative video I've seen in a while. A lot of the videos don't give you background of what things do/mean, and this broke it down pretty easily. If you can comment on how you set up your binds and how you go into the rotations mechanically, that would be helpful as well. Thanks!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I have a whole video on my macros and binds! Thanks for the kind words. :)
@KyleOM
@KyleOM 4 жыл бұрын
Walkthrough of a mythic would be 👌
@itzmaverick4194
@itzmaverick4194 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please!!! Great video, keep up to the good work!
@grubbygeorge2117
@grubbygeorge2117 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I don't play a rogue and I am not intending to do so therefore the guide will not be of much use to me...I love your positivity and I can see the effort you've put into this my man. I cannot believe you only got 1000 subscriptions! Great content, friend.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That was extremely kind and heart warming. Thank you so much for the nice comment.
@Prince_Sharming
@Prince_Sharming 4 жыл бұрын
I am a new rogue player who was pretty overwhelmed by icy-veins but your explanation and style of video is great! Especially the bits about showing by example that really helps me learn better too.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That’s really great to hear, I am so glad I can help you! I also learn this way, which is why I create my videos like this!
@mb58993
@mb58993 4 жыл бұрын
This class is actually pretty new to me because i've been playing Mage,Warrior...I gotta admit there's a little bit of a learning curve to it but you somehow manage to turn it into a rather simple approach. Thank you!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That's really kind, thank you so much. :)
@xxdevilscandyxx2864
@xxdevilscandyxx2864 4 жыл бұрын
Tyvm for the break down! Was having a little trouble figuring out my Rotation as a sub rogue and iv taken an interest in rogues since last expansion.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for the support, really happy to help always!
@wahebskull
@wahebskull 4 жыл бұрын
3erd time i search for somthing about rogue and i find you on top and most usfull short guide thx alot man
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words. :) I appreciate you!
@captnpsycho8231
@captnpsycho8231 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good video, very clear and I learned a ton as a new Sub rogue, played a ton of assassination in BFA, joined a bit late but got to 1900 in 2s and did heroic nzoth in a pug hahah but never touched sub spec. 👍 Def gonna keep tuning in and learning, you earned my sub for sure.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That means so much to me. Thanks a lot :)
@GosmaDourada
@GosmaDourada 4 жыл бұрын
man im so glad I found your channel! I'm very new to wow, only on my first character and I chose rogue, now I can finally survive mobs and dont have to stun one to kill the other over and over! Thank you so much!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Really happy to hear! I hope you enjoy your time here!
@jAmzye
@jAmzye 4 жыл бұрын
Yo man I love it. You are a very good teacher.. I just started playing Rogue and out of maybe 20 or so videos that I watched trying to learn, I learnt most from yours. Keep it up.
@jAmzye
@jAmzye 4 жыл бұрын
Btw, does this video apply for AoE on bigger packs of mobs or is it only for single target?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@jAmzye Hey thanks for the feedback! I'm really glad to hear I could help. For AoE it's a little bit different but still very simple. Generally if there are 2 or more mobs you can sort of just shuriken storm over backstab to build combo points and if there are 3 or more mobs you can use black powder as your only finisher!
@samsorge27
@samsorge27 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, I especially liked the opener breakdown
@DNB__
@DNB__ 4 жыл бұрын
This is just an amazing video! Best PvE guide I’ve seen! Thank you so much!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
So happy to help! Thanks for the support!
@prevailonly1503
@prevailonly1503 4 жыл бұрын
You did a really good job of displaying it at the end. More videos with that visual handons learning would benefit a tonne of people , including me ! Im still clueless as to how to play sub
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m glad it helps. A lot more to come and hopefully we can make you much better at sub!
@dimimoc3325
@dimimoc3325 4 жыл бұрын
i watched like 9 videos to learn how to play sub rogue but your video helped me out the most keep it up buddy c:
@CaLuMaCCa
@CaLuMaCCa 3 жыл бұрын
Transmog guide please. That looks sick
@kalebbryce
@kalebbryce 3 жыл бұрын
Agreeeeeed
@Return_To_Sender
@Return_To_Sender 4 жыл бұрын
I have some issues with my hands and I rely quite a bit on macros, would you ever consider making a macro list for rotations or is it not viable for sub rogues this time around?
@rafaelstocco2207
@rafaelstocco2207 4 жыл бұрын
up
@martinkarnachev8279
@martinkarnachev8279 4 жыл бұрын
up
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely plan to make an in-depth Rogue macro video in the near future! If you're talking about a sequence I haven't actually ever used one of those though!
@Return_To_Sender
@Return_To_Sender 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor Thanks! Yea, I currently use GSE, but the current macros out there fall pretty behind. Basically I have around 3 buttons to use on my mouse that makes it easier, and I try to get (albeit not perfect) rotation down with macros to those 3 buttons.
@alexchavez6420
@alexchavez6420 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I had this same issue, with my hands, so I switched to using an Xbox controller, it’s pretty great for keybinds
@XurosDH
@XurosDH 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, pretty late to the party here. But I just started playing rogue this expansion (hadn't played it much before and when i did i went assassination) This video has really helped me in PvE content, so i appreciate it a lot man ty. Definitely got my sub for that!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That means the world to me. Really glad I could help you. :)
@logicomamk2848
@logicomamk2848 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are helping me a ton, came back to rogue first time since TBC, subb & notifications on, thanks mate.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I am so happy I can help!
@ecexpedition2554
@ecexpedition2554 4 жыл бұрын
YOUR MY BOY BLUEEE!!! ty for this , much needed. you've already increased my game play 10 fold. people take notes. ps, kyrian burst is nasty, ty for that too.
@romainbeyazkilic6254
@romainbeyazkilic6254 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video but i like more this open for a boss fight mono target : Stealth > Shadow Blades > Shadowstrike Slice and dice > Vanish > Shadowstrike > Rupture > Symbols Of Death > Shadow Dance then get up to 5 or 6 combo points, Eviscerate repeat and get your 2nd dance off instantly, it matches perfectly the timing at which you need to re-apply SnD and Rupture. Continue normal rotation and do not use Dance in your rotation if symbols are not up ! Feel free to cast your covenant ability after you pop your 1st Shadow dance 😉
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I started popping Sblades before the first shadow strike as well now! Might as well. Thanks for sharing Romain.
@romainbeyazkilic6254
@romainbeyazkilic6254 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor You're welcome, thanks for your response 😃
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@romainbeyazkilic6254 Thanks for the support. :)
@nekogirlbathwater9210
@nekogirlbathwater9210 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed bro. I hope your channel grows 👍👍
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Clayton, you rock!
@SqueeGodX
@SqueeGodX 4 жыл бұрын
Man thanks for the vid and THANKS for slow motion 👍🏻 looking forward to sub on twitch 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Squee. I appreciate the feedback!
@CluelessUnknown
@CluelessUnknown 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the super in depth video! I'm Venthyr, and just swapped from Outlaw to Sub, and I'm definitely struggling to manage cool downs and get my rotation down to maintain high dps. I'm sure I'll use this video a lot as I progress into harder content 😁
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That means a lot to me. Really happy I can help!
@vilotch1974
@vilotch1974 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Vid dude! I was searching for a simple and straight to the point vid on sub rogue rotation for a while. Here you are delivering exactly what I wanted! Thank you very much, liked and subbed! I had one question tho: When would be the best time to include a Cheap shot or/and a Kidney shot in the rotation? It seems like a waste of a talent point if you dont use them. (OFC if you can use it on a mob, not gonna spamm it on a boss and waste them combo points :D) Also I request a M+ run to see you in action. Maybe you did post one already, first vid I am watching, but defo not the last one! glhf.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support man. :) I would definitely open with a stun, but I have a whole PvP opener for you!
@charleshunter7361
@charleshunter7361 4 жыл бұрын
On kyrian youre best bet is to get slice and dice up and then use the anima charged combo point on rupture it takes a good deal more practice and timing along with rng to line up the anima charged combo point for rupture but if you can nail it, then it is a nice dps boost it just takes a little more focus and timing to hit rupture at the 2/3 combo point that I find the anima charged combo point lands on
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I agree, that is definitely a very top tier adaption to the opener. :)
@charleshunter7361
@charleshunter7361 4 жыл бұрын
And that’s just an addition the guide was amazing thank you for the info!
@brino0162
@brino0162 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Keep up the good work!
@brandnfk8
@brandnfk8 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful guide thank you for this
@angelyotov8246
@angelyotov8246 4 жыл бұрын
A solid video from a solid guy
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :)
@daniatzenfreaq
@daniatzenfreaq 4 жыл бұрын
Man thanks for your Videos, i Finally have fun as Rogue
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I can do that for you! Thanks for the support!
@Suddensov
@Suddensov 4 жыл бұрын
I subbed, you deserve the world man. Thanks
@jtwilt610
@jtwilt610 4 жыл бұрын
Well explained with detail. Thanks buddy
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad I can help you. :)
@iPinguu10
@iPinguu10 4 жыл бұрын
great video man, simple and to the point appreciate it :D !
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@DarkKniteZ
@DarkKniteZ 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you man was scare to try it after outlaw spec but damn sub is soooooo much fun and soooo much burst
@taylorwhite2751
@taylorwhite2751 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have an aura for the sub rogue.? I’m loving this play style it is a little challenging at first that’s for sure
@nabius6839
@nabius6839 4 жыл бұрын
i like your intros keep it up !!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Haha good to hear!
@coolboy98o
@coolboy98o 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, btw whats the illusion u r using on your weapons? Looks cool af
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Glorious Tyranny from MoP! it's legacy now!
@tsmartins
@tsmartins 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Having some problems with rotation and dps numbers. This will help a lot.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear. :)
@sheldonpedlar846
@sheldonpedlar846 4 жыл бұрын
This is really good content bro, thanks.
@gawn8254
@gawn8254 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids keep up the good work
@abigailbliss7258
@abigailbliss7258 4 жыл бұрын
Nice concise guide that gets to the point! So can you break down best rotation for mobs as well? Sorry... saw that aoe dps was covered in other comments.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I actually uploaded an entire AoE breakdown today if you want to check that out! Thanks for the feedback though I appreciate it. :)
@insidescoop911
@insidescoop911 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I'd like a mythic walkthrough! I'd like to see how you deal w/ aoe situations.
@doomh5056
@doomh5056 4 жыл бұрын
same
@crazytech5755
@crazytech5755 4 жыл бұрын
@@doomh5056 well, if it's a big AOE situation just come out of stealth with symbols up so your next shuriken crits on everyuthing, adding weeknes debuff. Then secret tech is actually really strong for mythic+, and then into blacl powder which does more damage when find weekness is applied. :) Not too hard. 3 targets? just open as you would and applys rupture to each one as you continue to down one target mainly.
@doomh5056
@doomh5056 4 жыл бұрын
@@crazytech5755 Thanks actually that's helpful to me
@crazytech5755
@crazytech5755 4 жыл бұрын
@Frizzle Chops You don't get the passive to add find weakness with shuriken storm until like level 58 or so. For your level, follow the 3 priority, which is esentially what you're already doing. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Sub is kinda shit until max level :) but fun!
@Parendinate
@Parendinate 4 жыл бұрын
Great and useful guide. Thanks.
@creamcakepop
@creamcakepop 4 жыл бұрын
These guids are SOOO GOOD
@outlaw8379
@outlaw8379 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! amazing guide bro
@mellowoutt500
@mellowoutt500 4 жыл бұрын
This is great info for a nice PvE set up for single target. My main issue right now though is not being a potato when it comes to trash mobs. How are you handling AoE damage and helping your team there?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I've been asked this a ton, I'm going to actually run a mythic soon tonight and record it, and do sort of a walkthrough style video for tomorrow! If you use Twitch I might stream over at twitch.tv/iPalumor. A good general rule though I've been advising is if there are 2+ mobs replace backstab with shuriken storm, and 3+ mobs black powder>other finishers!
@kuronekonyan
@kuronekonyan 4 жыл бұрын
hi! at 13:24, I see you use Shadow Dance TWICE in a row? doesnt that waste a charge? or does it stack or something :O thanks for your videos i learned a lot and took lots of notes
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Shadow dance is great to basically use every time it's available! It gives back energy with our talents and increases our damage AND lowers our energy cost with talents!
@kuronekonyan
@kuronekonyan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor ye but does the DMG bonus stack? cos you used it twice in a row instantly, both charges, is that good?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@kuronekonyan Lol, you must have just seen it wrong! You can't use more than 1 charge of Sdance at a time. :)
@kuronekonyan
@kuronekonyan 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Palumor oh lol the Bar in the middle of your screen shows the ​ shadow dance twice in a row so it's confusing, but thanks! keep up the good work :)
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@kuronekonyan Oh yeah the addon tends to do weird things like that haha. Sorry for the confusion! :)
@joshbell123
@joshbell123 4 жыл бұрын
Secret technique is the hardest hitting ability you have as sub. Gets even more value in cleave/aoe situations especially if you animacharge it
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I have heard that it works a little bit differently that I thought it did in terms of total damage, although the difference between MoS and ST is still minuscule in the big picture. There will be a million more problems if you’re lacking dps before this is why!
@Akamäefr
@Akamäefr 4 жыл бұрын
@Palumor How do you get echoing reprimend please ? I don't see it in the skill trees :D
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
You need to complete the campaign and be 60! Choose Kyrian covenant and you'll have it through that campaign. :)
@Akamäefr
@Akamäefr 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor thanks!
@jsizzlezz1
@jsizzlezz1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, as a washed up rogue coming back to shadowlands this really helps!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Really glad I could help ease your return. I was once washed up as well returning not too long ago! It comes back fast.
@mrcandy158
@mrcandy158 4 жыл бұрын
What transmog do you have?
@eXtremverstrahlt
@eXtremverstrahlt 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using your headset mic? Good quality for a headset! Which model is it?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Haha yes unfortunately, it's a Logitech G433!
@Dasdu86
@Dasdu86 4 жыл бұрын
HI great Video Thanks, i have a question, i wait with the sec. Symbole of Death for Echoing Reprimand coming up again?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I'd use symbols of death off cooldown, but only with shadow dance! Either echoing reprimand or shadowstrike!
@Dasdu86
@Dasdu86 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor ok thanks
@Anoxn
@Anoxn 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid dude, keep it up. Would love to see the mythic walkthrough
@nawledge4pwr
@nawledge4pwr 4 жыл бұрын
From the animations in game it appears that if you are spamming shadow strike at the start of a fight, you aren’t really auto attacking. So if auto attacks are only happening when you get into backstab mode, would it not be better to put up rupture before SnD?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
The auto attacks go off! The yellow attacks just override them from showing!
@nathancarter19
@nathancarter19 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!
@Insurvx
@Insurvx 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these, If you could do a 30 min in depth guide to rogue pvp and mythic plus covering everything I would give you my twitch prime sub every month for a year!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Lol what an offer! I do plan to upload a live commentary style Mythic+ this upcoming week and potentially a BG. Also arena content to come in the future, so stay tuned!
@Xtenias
@Xtenias 3 жыл бұрын
awesome info dude. but what about conduits ?..
@Palumor
@Palumor 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of videos on that, this is old!
@mattemattics5667
@mattemattics5667 4 жыл бұрын
Echoing Reprimand confuses me. Does it work even if you build combo points beyond the charged point, or only if you consume exactly that amount? And if the latter, how come you never consumed it in your rotation? If the former, which ability is better to use charged and what's the best way to make sure you get to exactly that point?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I have a whole video talking about the anima point but yes it's only if you exactly land on it! I wouldn't stress hitting it in the middle of fast paced CD uptime DPS, but landing it on your downtime!
@aidonis98
@aidonis98 4 жыл бұрын
All I would add, as a fellow Kyrian, is to utilize that Kyrian combo point. Getting a 7 point Evis off of 2 or 3 combo points is key. I usually use it after the first dance goes away. It's excellent filler. Also a great way to get a max SnD.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. What I've been telling people is to not worry too much about the anima point, but if it lines up definitely shoot for the finisher right away. I think it's too RNG and unreliable to play around with the random combo points we can generate in combat.
@bloodmoontalon
@bloodmoontalon 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor btw is anima point gets consumed if you use SnD and gives you 7 point duration of SnD?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@bloodmoontalon No! It's only damaging abilities that consume it! So Evis/Rupture/Black powder are the 3 I believe. :)
@bloodmoontalon
@bloodmoontalon 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor dude ty for all your effort, i hope u grow larger day by day
@samventra8174
@samventra8174 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, was helpful
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I can help :)
@realishak
@realishak 4 жыл бұрын
Is putting symbols on a macro a good idea? So that It activates every time i use Shadow dance. Just to save a keybind
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Do it the opposite way around! You might need to use Sdance alone to sap or something, but every time you symbols you'll want to dance!
@kennyzero9
@kennyzero9 4 жыл бұрын
if you activate your covenant skill you can use Eviscrate early with 2 or 3 combo points or am i wrong
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
If you land on your anima point then yes! It will hit for a value of 7 combo points!
@duconyomi
@duconyomi 4 жыл бұрын
Good video as usual ! I feel kyrian reprimand is a pain in the *** to finisher on the right combo point because of auto attacks giving you random cb. Going night fae seems better because of the conduit of nya who gives you a similar boost to mastery on septis with the added bonus of a free stealth ability. The soul form is a blessing to add mobility whereas the potion from kyrian feels useless when you are backed up by a good healer. Additionnaly, going secret technique gives you a massive boost to AoE. Energy starving is indeed a problem when you go secret technique but it can he mitigated with clever use of symbol of death during shadowdance. What do you think ? Keep up the good work man, your videos are a treat ;)
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! That's great feedback. I am definitely fascinated by Night Fae, i've been hearing good things about the ability but I'm loving Echoing Reprimand damage far too much right now. In terms of Secret Technique vs Master of Shadows I just feel like the single target bonus of MoS is much > than the AoE bonus of ST. That's why I choose it. Since we run enveloping shadows we have so many shadow dances that we can only use symbols every 2nd or 3rd dance! Thank you again. :)
@pietinebroek8462
@pietinebroek8462 4 жыл бұрын
Ur a legend man, love the vid
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your support!
@lexlexx2433
@lexlexx2433 4 жыл бұрын
New suuuub! Very useful bro!!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Really glad I can help. :)
@UrbFOSHO
@UrbFOSHO 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Extreme sub rogue noob here.. I don't seem to get the mastery buff from echoing repriment. Only thing I noticed was a critical strike rating buff..?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! The mastery comes from the top of your Kyrian soulbind with Pelagos. It's a default little conduit slot called Combat Meditation.
@UrbFOSHO
@UrbFOSHO 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor thank you so much! Keep up the content it's so helpful
@Sarones95
@Sarones95 4 жыл бұрын
You said you use the kyrian ability after dance or before it - I tried it a few times and I think it is scaling with dance aswell and you also have time to use the effect on it aswell
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely use Sdance before because of our talent that increases all dmg by 30% during shadow dance!
@eyelessjack3406
@eyelessjack3406 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor 15% since you're using enveloping shadow not dark shadow
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@eyelessjack3406 Woops, you're right! I posted my PvP and PvE guide at the same-ish time and didn't realize this one was the PvE spec!
@HolmgaardProduction
@HolmgaardProduction 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video! Btw what's the weapon illusion on your daggers?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Glorious tyranny! It's from Duelist in s14/15 in MoP. No longer obtainable though. :(
@Yuurrr
@Yuurrr 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't you consume your echoing reprimand buff? (The finishing moves that consume the same number of combo points as your Animacharge function as if they consumed 7 combo points)
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I do when it lines up. I generally don't go too out of my way to chase the anima point unless I'm just messing around. It can be quite RNG based and unreliable and really distracting honestly.
@Yuurrr
@Yuurrr 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Palumor Yeah I get the same feeling. It's quite hard to pull it off. Especially because of how fast paced sub is. But it's not a high priority than? Well that's good!
@NeonTubeGaming
@NeonTubeGaming 4 жыл бұрын
a mythic+ run would be awesome, i'm all for it - it helps give a more authentic play by play approach
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback :)
@macabrew
@macabrew 4 жыл бұрын
How much of your DPS is auto attacks? Would determine if Slice is worth
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure for that clip, but generally we will definitely benefit from prioritizing keeping up SnD.
@Ploxiii
@Ploxiii 4 жыл бұрын
Shuriken Tornado combined with Black Powder is really strong for aoe bursts. After each Tornado, you get enough combopoints (if 5 of more mobs) to do a full 5 combopoint Black Powder, and since it does it 4 times as well then I would expect to see that somewhere in M+
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Potentially, I just believe the single target benefit of Master of Shadows heavily outweighs the AoE benefits of the others! Definitely I think they're okay picks for AoE only though!
@miranmeric5725
@miranmeric5725 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of using evis or rupture with the empowered CP that echoing reprimand gives you? You could sneak a 2CP rupture or evis (if that is the empowered CP) and it acts as a 7CP rupture or evis. It's basically a free extra 5 CP
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Just made a video about this today, it's up. :)
@miranmeric5725
@miranmeric5725 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor just saw it! Nice work man, sweet channel
@DM-cw7qt
@DM-cw7qt 4 жыл бұрын
Palumor, how about your AoE rotation?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I will have an overview for this soon. But generally try to stick to this - 2 or more targets Shuriken Storm>Backstab, 3 or more targets Black powder>other finishers
@matherace
@matherace 4 жыл бұрын
I like your combo points meter. How do I get that same thing set up for myself?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
The addons called NugComboBar!
@matherace
@matherace 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor thanks 🙏
@Hvalkoen
@Hvalkoen 4 жыл бұрын
I like your "resent spells casts" Wa/addon above your action bars. How do I get that same thing set up for myself?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
It's an addon called TrufiGCD!
@danny2xs
@danny2xs 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content on rogue that your throwing out right now. Looking forward to the mythic run because I feel I'm not doing things right given its a way new class for me.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Boesesbaerchen
@Boesesbaerchen 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me why you have a one hand wepon in your oof hand?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter too much! The difference in value of dagger over slow weapon doesn't mean that much anymore. In classic and beyond is was for a higher dps and poison application. Now the only value is getting faster autos for our sub passive shadow techniques. :)
@Boesesbaerchen
@Boesesbaerchen 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor Thanks^^ and the transmog value is insane XD
@Majinxxt
@Majinxxt 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the Rotation on 3 mobs or 5+ mobs?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I uploaded an AoE guide today/yesterday! Check my channel. :)
@qilincheung5526
@qilincheung5526 4 жыл бұрын
A great guide for beginners like me :) btw what is that addon sliding the abilities you are using at the bottom (very good for practising the rotation)
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Really glad to help! The addon is called TrufiGCD.
@brino0162
@brino0162 4 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the add-on that shows ur recent abilities used?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That's called TrufiGCD!
@StoMiden
@StoMiden 4 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend, very nice work. I am was planning to play sub rogue in Shadowlands and I wanted to know some informations. Your transmog looks absolutely stunning! Can u provide a list of the items needed ? Thanks in progress and keep up your excellent work buddy!
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Hello friend! This transmog was super simple, it's just a robe from Heroic 25man Throne of Thunder off of the council! The headband is from Illidan in black temple. The other pieces aren't so significant. Thankyou for the feedback
@eLmasten1991
@eLmasten1991 4 жыл бұрын
In Talents I personally run with Premeditation + Secret technique. ST is insaaaane for AOE burst in M+ and premed makes sure, that you never have to use CP on SnD because you have so much dance uptime, that your shadowstrike keeps up the SnD. You should try it out.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
I have actually tried premed! I do like both premed and weapon master a lot! I think as of now I feel like I get a bit more of an edge with weapon master though!
@eLmasten1991
@eLmasten1991 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor Awesome! Great content. Keep it up. peace!
@v-7815
@v-7815 4 жыл бұрын
Secondary poison matters a bit. In order for Shiv to remove an enrage effect from an enemy you need to have Numbing Poison active.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Just read that from somebody else and I actually didn't even know that! Thank you to the both of you lmao. That is very good to know.
@dominicksimon2973
@dominicksimon2973 4 жыл бұрын
What is that addon you use showing what abilities you used
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
It is called TrufiGCD!
@dominicksimon2973
@dominicksimon2973 4 жыл бұрын
I downloaded it but it looks way worse how do I bring up the menu for it
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@dominicksimon2973 Just go into interface>addons and open up the config for it. It's pretty simple to customize. I personally disabled everything but my own abilities and moved it/rescaled it.
@devens5301
@devens5301 4 жыл бұрын
what ui do you use that shows your skills sliding across the screen
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
That's an addon called TrufiGCD!
@KiDViciouS_1
@KiDViciouS_1 4 жыл бұрын
How are you using rupture?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean! I apply it and maintain it haha.
@fredriksundgren2326
@fredriksundgren2326 4 жыл бұрын
Should I'l be pooling energy? or just spam untill i get enought combo points for a finisher?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Spam for sure! For managing your anima point and energy I have a whole separate video on that!
@fredriksundgren2326
@fredriksundgren2326 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor thx m8. love ur vids my dps have skyrocket since i watched your vids.
@jakesullivan2182
@jakesullivan2182 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man great guide, just wondering what addon you use that shows the stun currently up but its like super big next to the nameplate?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite addons! It's called BigDebuffs :)
@jakesullivan2182
@jakesullivan2182 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor thanks man appreciate it, decided to go rogue this expansion. Definitely gonna subscribe for more guides!
@sapntickle
@sapntickle 4 жыл бұрын
My question is with the master assassin legendary how would the opener change or if it would stay the same.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
It would probably change. I'm actually going to make a video on specific super strong opener combos with MA when I get it next Tuesday!
@innerfire2399
@innerfire2399 4 жыл бұрын
Should I equip two daggers or main dagger and a sword as a sub rogue? It really confuses me.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
No need to be confused! Nowadays for subtlety it's really as simple as main hand dagger and offhand whatever you want for xmog. :)
@innerfire2399
@innerfire2399 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor Thanks for the reply! For maximum damage which is better? I thought that because the basic attacks generate energy, two daggers are better? (daggers attack faster than swords so potentially generate more energy) I'm still confusing here.
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@innerfire2399 The passive that gives you energy has a hidden CD so it doesn't matter that much really! www.wowhead.com/spell=196912/shadow-techniques
@gavinhislop
@gavinhislop 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I was raiding last night and keeping rupture up on 2 targets, nearly the entire way through a 10 min long fight, it only did 5% of my damage... is there any point in even using it?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Multi dotting is probably going to net a small DPS increase but you could always just go for evis depending on your spec and conduit.
@gavinhislop
@gavinhislop 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor What about single target rupture? Seems like a dead ability?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
@@gavinhislop Single target one of your most important components is maintaining rupture, assuming the target will be alive to eat all the damage. A full rupture bleed will be much more damage than any other finisher!
@keenzbeanz6706
@keenzbeanz6706 4 жыл бұрын
Should I be keeping up with Rupture before Slice and Dice?
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
As long as you open as I show in the video you can get both up extremely fast a global or two apart. In terms of maintaining you should have no problem maintaining both of them 100% uptime!
@resen-gaming6398
@resen-gaming6398 4 жыл бұрын
May we please get a guide for assasination rogue
@Palumor
@Palumor 4 жыл бұрын
Potentially in the future! Very busy between mastering Sub right now and getting alts up to par! Definitely not a hard no though!
@resen-gaming6398
@resen-gaming6398 4 жыл бұрын
@@Palumor thanks bud
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