Kyrie Irving or Allen Iverson: Who is the better player? | Stephen A’s World

On Stephen A's World, Stephen A. compares the tape of Allen Iverson and Kyrie Irving to see who is better in a new segment called "Old School vs. New School."
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[@emjay-gaming]

How did he not mention Iverson was the league MVP at time with Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, McGrady, Stockton, Malone, Vince, Kidd, Dirk, Garnett, Webber, Payton, Pierce, Nash, Allen, Marbury etc

[@dtonyxo2481]

Lol

[@dirtysnowball]

The MVP award is solely based on politics even Steve Nash won an MVP Lol👁

[@dtonyxo2481]

@@dirtysnowball lol over kobe tht yr when he was averaging 35 points a game tht he got robbed lol just saying

[@kobebryant5576]

@@dirtysnowball Steve nash deserved in 2005 you kid

[@dtonyxo2481]

@@kobebryant5576 nah you wild kobe should of won it tht year

[@richardbermundo877]

"We all should be fortunate that Allen Iverson wasn't 6'5."-Kobe Bryant

[@NZENZN]

Prove he made that quote

[@yaboyfreaknizzle7296]

Good thing he wasnt 6'5 he'd be slower

[@meatjamhouseproduction8148]

They dont understand. AI took on the whole eastern conference by himself. AI is a scoring machine like Jordan and Kobe, his height was his only con about him. And they never sorrounded with superstar talent like these other dudes.

[@SlvrBckBlck]

The game then was different. A lot tougher and more brutal. AI took a lot of nasty hits and got up and continued. Could Kyrie play in the late 90s earlier 2000s with teams like New York and Detroit? He has a hard time staying on the court in this soft a$$ league. If AI was to play in the league now at in his prime, not only would he have had more MVPs and scoring title than Kyrie, James Harden and KD would want to play with him because he had more... (wait for this sh!t) ...heart. And that's immeasurable on the court.

[@dirtypocketsct]

@@SlvrBckBlck Good point, I always thought of the hand checks and hard fouls and makes me appreciate what Keven Johnson and AI could do.

[@seanmichael8744]

I gotta roll with AI on this...he didn't even need practice lol

[@gumballplayz7001]

yeah thats why A.I. is best

[@momoblue1691]

Kyrie didn’t even need to play the games, look at Nets

[@seanmichael8744]

@@momoblue1691 you do have a point lmao

[@ericae6611]

😂

[@evanmanni2723]

Talk about practice again lol

[@bscarter100]

Allen Iverson hands down. Rules were changed for him. I literally watched an OLD Kobe lock down Kyrie, I believe Kobe held him to zero points. While a YOUNG Kobe and championship lakers struggled to contain Iverson

[@emperorwolfgaming]

You can add this to your comment: You're seriously putting up a modern copy vs the King of Crossovers? In every single game or highlight, you can see Irving shoving his defender off. But the King dances his way through... He doesn't touch em, but makes em drop. So, I'll give you a moment to think about the rules that changed in the game and how would the King of Crossovers play on this era where nobody can touch the ball handler more than AI's era.. Kyrie couldnt carry a whole team alone like AI did. Kyrie is one of those superstars who needs other superstars to win rings. Nuff said.

[@KPMTrance]

An old experienced kobe on defence is a lot more dangerous than a fresh baby kobe defending imo, imagine all the tricks he has seen/learned/experienced by the time he had to play kyrie.

[@mastersamurai7683]

Hands down. Not even a thought

[@kevinchavis2755]

Kyrie better, more Efficient

[@mastersamurai7683]

@@kevinchavis2755 haha

[@himfresco1349]

AI carried his team to the finals.. nuff said

[@retrac6306]

Kyrie won Cleveland a championship ...nuff said Edit: Do you agree with my take on Tyler Johnson let me know!

[@simonon60fps60]

@@retrac6306 and saved lebrons career with that 3

[@CL66666]

ai not even better then harden

[@michaeljordanbestplayereve1428]

@@retrac6306 he had Lebron lol.If Dame or any other good Pg was thier instead of Kyrie.Clevland still wins lol.

[@dezzydee3013]

So let me get this straight you will take a guy that has no championship rings over a guy who has a championship ring and hit the Clutch 3 with 1 minute left in a game 7 on the road. And I had Allen Iverson shoes and he was my favorite player because he changed the game and made me rocks braids. Y'all can listen to these people who trying to throw a narrative but one ring is better than no ring especially if you hit the game-winning shot on the road in the NBA Championship that's the biggest stage there is

[@davidchance6418]

Iverson had more heart than somebody twice his size...he was beating most teams 1v5

[@simonjohnson514]

Kyrie Irving was made by that I mean he practiced dribbling drills and shooting drills all his life, his father made him into the player he is. AI was a normal guy like me and you, he played at the playground and had fun, he was just talented, he played every sport that's why he was great at football and won state championship titles in both sports. Think about if AI had basketball forced down his throat as a kid, he would of been Jesus with a basketball. AI had heart something you can't teach and that's what makes him so much better... No comparison, it must be a slow sports day to ask such a dumb question.

[@tydeprince7197]

@@simonjohnson514 facts if a.i had what these kids have now bru he might of been better than jordan

[@jason-uf4py]

Lol kurrie carry lebron to a 3 to 1 lead. And a game 7 3point lead shot

[@cheyaneelam2949]

David chance ur right, thats y he is better.

[@davidchance6418]

@@Nodnahs4D not a great a defender but leading the league in steals don't qualify as defence lol

[@kennethbanksjr740]

Iverson is the only play who put Jordan on the wrong side of a highlight!

[@sroland3533]

And amma " MJ " Fan but you have to give Jack his Jacket ......

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

Yeah bc 1 highlight puts a player above another

[@iishyxvietxboyii]

Starks did.

[@prod2329]

Bulls won that game And AI was only know For his iconic Move to Do that to mj

[@tourem.harris3135]

*Grant Hill

[@Jikjuka]

I love kyrie's game but he actually seems to have a somewhat neutral impact on his team's success. AI did carry the sixers though for years and played better d.

[@notyourmomyousnowflake3533]

if kyrie didn't play game 7 of Cleveland's win, they would have lost.

[@brandongreen5468]

That's one season he's injury prone u can't build a team around kyrie the Celtics tried that already

[@kevinchavis2755]

@@brandongreen5468 Kyrie is better for all the reasons Stephen A said. The problems he mentioned are intangibles. Being more available doesn’t make you a better player

[@kevinchavis2755]

AI was good at getting steals in the passing lane but if you watch Kyrie play and he’s locked in he plays better individual on ball defense

[@emmanuelshaul1358]

Dude the impact iverson had on the world. Is no comparison. Nobody felt this way about kyrie. Kyrie name will fade

[@ucantknockthehustle]

Who better Iverson or Kyrie? Max Kellerman: "I want Iguodala"

[@SpydaMikeHD]

I’m weak lol

[@NUPE-1911]

Legend comment!

[@cyrillkuhn1309]

FATE OF THE UNIVERSE ON HIS SHOULDERS

[@carlosrivero9943]

🤣

[@jarinxcii263]

😂 Max is always confused

[@blkscreen15]

Iverson is a brand, a legend, an era!

[@tresorbonteke8095]

Spot on!

[@SD4philly]

truth

[@bryantroyster3395]

A 🐐

[@seanswinton6242]

Also cultural icon. He brought corn rows back.

[@blakemartin2140]

Preach. ICON

[@desib1287]

Iverson played with a broken tailbone and other injuries. Players feared him and did everything not to end up on a highlight. He had to go up against Shaq and other Giants in an aggressive league. He tired players out to the point of exhaustion. You know you had to bring your A game. Multiple defenders on one guy. Constantly in the paint getting beat down. Plus they banned his crossover. Stop playing with AI. Everybody wanted to be him.

[@euntaepark6001]

1. MVP 2. Carried a team to the Final Case closed

[@18cronic]

Who’s better Iverson or Kyrie? Paul Pierce: Thats easy, that’s me.

[@rudybrooks7624]

Who’s better currently? Tom Brady or Mahomes? Paul Pierce: that’s easy, that’s me

[@lazymaile8723]

Bruh 🤣🤣

[@livingintechnology4613]

Who's better Messi or CR7? Paul Pierce: that's easy, that's me

[@hustleman8797]

Lol

[@isaiahmoseley5503]

Of course no question😂

[@tarrelljones7259]

The answer to the question is 'THE ANSWER

[@LeeBo318]

Nuff said!

[@anthonyjackson7210]

Exactly

[@ganggang2921]

But is it the truth

[@ebpmack5017]

💯

[@dasher920]

Unless the question is who wants to show up for practice

[@peterperfect1525]

The question to ask is, would each be a better player if they swapped eras? Iverson would average 50+ these days. Could you say the same about Kyrie if he played in AI's era?

[@fornow753]

AI is not averaging 50+ in this era you are stupid for even saying that. In this area AI would struggle to average 20 whilst Kyrie still easily carries over his current production to the old era

[@peterperfect1525]

@@fornow753 Kyrie would be lucky to hit double figures in AIs era, champ. They played this thing called defence when AI played, and, Kyrie would've only ever gone into the paint the one time before he'd have found out that little boys don't venture where the big boys ply their craft.

[@cheezezlayer493]

thats what one of the main reason golden era players seperates to this cup cake era, everything is made to be easy now you just have to score score score no more defense back then everything is balance players outwit other players to get buckets and team effort is a must with good defense

[@onmywayto974]

AI had plenty of competition at that time. This dude not only had a smooth midrange, he was so dominant in the paint not to mention getting hit everytime. Also, AI don't rely on the refs.

[@sroland3533]

Never did " RELY " on Refs.

[@onmywayto974]

@@sroland3533 I'm sure he still don't/won't even if he's no longer pro.

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

Kyrie gets the least amount of calls in today’s game😂

[@onmywayto974]

@@V1CALMIGH7Y When was the last time Kyrie even played? ( A bit of exaggerating).

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

@@onmywayto974 game 2 against bucks before giannis injured him

[@pmo2888]

Didn’t come to listen to the debate, just came to say put respect on AI’s name.

[@toddmaek5436]

Period

[@desmondmilesful]

Exactly Irving fans get triggered at the name Iverson at any turn. If only they knew....

[@RealmeC-oy4zt]

Kyrie 1 rings AI 0 rings

[@pmo2888]

@@RealmeC-oy4zt I think AI going to the finals with a mediocre team is more impressive than Kyrie riding on Lebron’s back.

[@1Nolimittmo]

@@RealmeC-oy4zt And ai has a mvp

[@iglesiasublimegraciaenharb8333]

I love Kyrie but I have to keep it real. Iverson had a speed and crossover that was special. He carried a franchise by himself. He was a Hip Hop icon. I love Kyrie but Iverson is simply The right Answer.

[@azmayeenzchowdhury8484]

I see what you did there

[@KevinHernandez-hy1qb]

💯💯

[@kanyewestbank9677]

And curry was better than both of them overall. “Is” better

[@dontuse10]

@@kanyewestbank9677 and MJ was better than Curry, if we just naming random guards 🤦

[@kanyewestbank9677]

@@dontuse10 I don’t think anyone is gonna argue that buddy

[@nicolehawkins1730]

“The best ability is availability.” 🔥 ¡Fuego!

[@alwynvillanueva7492]

A.I. no doubt! Plays his heart out every night, no excuses.

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

And Kyrie doesn’t every time he plays?

[@dom4591]

Ai is such a legend. Remember back when everyone had a 76ers iverson jersey?

[@matthewadam4902]

Luckily I have one

[@Chudsic]

I still have 3 - AI retro sixers (with the half red half black), AI black 76ers away jersey and AI blue pistons #1.

[@melvinsmith1176]

Don't forget that's the last/only time we all paid $100+dollars for Reebok shoes😂😂

[@Marlon_J]

@@melvinsmith1176 facts

[@plugsac]

Definitely had 3 of them

[@Adam-rh9my]

AI's biggest asset was his heart. That separates him from the rest.

[@aggiepride982]

@Magic Dollas man AI, Tracy McGrady, MJ, would have made a mockery out of today's game. AI would have dunk on alot more people in today's game.

[@tonihearns5902]

Facts

[@aggiepride982]

@Magic Dollas you also didn't have a bunch of one and dones like now. Back in the day there was maybe 2 that came out every so often it has affected the game IMO

[@terrelpa]

His heart was 10ft tall

[@jacobflores0824]

@@aggiepride982 don’t forget about Kobe in his prime if he was still around

[@tigrealpaxley4894]

"The best ability, is avalability." - SAS 2021

[@greggjohnson5634]

Iverson playing through all them big hits and injuries

[@youngcity4241]

I’m taking Allen Iverson all day he played every game as it was his last and didn’t take games off , also won MVP in the greatest defensive Era under 6ft

[@chilldoc9638]

All blind? Kyrie easily

[@RicardoM.6]

Actually that mvp was stolen from Kobe 😴 but I’ll let you have that :)

[@chilldoc9638]

@@RicardoM.6 Nah

[@luiscepeda4658]

Going home with no ring!!

[@tonyperez6150]

@@RicardoM.6 chris paul's was stolen by kobe. We'll let you have that

[@brookelynn4149]

Kyrie playing without superstars on his team, led his teams to the draft lottery. Iverson playing without superstars on his team, led his team to a finals appearance.

[@judeakudinobi5259]

Kyrie was young

[@veksone77]

@@judeakudinobi5259 he was young on the Celtics?

[@brookelynn4149]

@@judeakudinobi5259 So was Iverson.

[@demcn1233]

@@brookelynn4149 2016?

[@victorrippe3088]

Look at this era brother.

[@zmcdaniel24]

My answer is always going to be THE Answer. 💯

[@chrisandcathdxb9220]

The Question and The Answer all in one. Nuff said.

[@yckim17]

AI won a league MVP when Shaq, Duncan were in their prime. That should be enough.

[@lanheroz3670]

Bingo

[@dakoreandude]

Good point. I don't think Kyrie Irving has ever been in the mvp conversation.

[@l.r9655]

A.I was goin against Kobe back when they actually played defense

[@boland850]

That doesn't count Lebron came back to Cleveland and stole his shine after turning the league into a 5 team league with his super team

[@l.r9655]

Kyrie has never lead a team to the playoffs, not even in the weak eastern conference. AI was there every yr! I swear these talk shows need realistic topics because this is outta control

[@jamesmace47]

Allen Iverson was the mvp of the league. Played in a era when could get rough up. Literally took a G league team to the finals. Iverson birth the style of play that’s in every single guard that’s in the league today including kyrie.

[@cendoleogodfrey2324]

They got better player on the g league then he had on the sixer

[@bigbudabmore5163]

@Jamesmace i agree and on top of all of that AI rarely ever practice. However Kyrie is to Ai to what Kobe is to Jordan.

[@keithbperrin9633]

U said it perfectly..bravo

[@tha_bhadd_guy501]

Most perfect comment ever fam

[@cjzanders5430]

Do you all think AI’s era of the NBA was a lot more physical?

[@HieuNguyen-ts1bo]

AI . My man. He was the reason why I was 4'10 at 8th grade and tryna go for Varsity basketball teams.

[@NJTDover]

I finally can agree with SAS on the point that AI never had another Star playing along with him nor a reliable supporting cast. Had 76ers' FO been able to surround AI with the necessary talent, the Answer would've had 4 or 5 rings. Kyrie Irving is a watered-down star who's used to playing with another star to bail him out.

[@lulanokonwo6274]

He’s not watered down watch ya mouth.

[@fornow753]

the kyrie disrespect is crazy put kyrie on that 76ers team instead of AI and they are a much better team

[@eatcheesekobe]

man literally dragged the sixers to a finals appearance on 1 foot 1 elbow and 6 working fingers, that's greatness

[@mike.cdn7212]

Allen Iverson won MVP when Shaq was in his prime. Kyrie has never came close to a MVP award.

[@shannonsharpe7695]

Steven Nash also did that

[@travlosavo5177]

Shaq only question the mvps that nash got over him not that one AI won

[@whiteblue3576]

Kyrie hasn't been healthy enough since leaving the cavs. The funny thing is I was wondering this today before seeing this video.

[@thatniggaanas9586]

And who has a ring

[@boknows6165]

@@thatniggaanas9586 lol

[@kamal171]

I like the way you put

[@kingdjc69]

Thank you for that breakdown Stephen A

[@karlobringino8241]

Bruh, Iverson carried a G league team to an NBA finals appearance.

[@tombyrne9003]

Yep. Kyrie can’t even carry a team to the playoffs if he’s the best player. This isn’t even a conversation....

[@kevmersa6578]

They were a top 5 ranked defense in the east

[@royal2b1]

And even won one of the games

[@markuskidd546]

that team had mutombo tf are you on?

[@nassdiorr168]

facts. I look at that 2001 season and brons 2018 season in the same light. they carried fr

[@veedee4860]

Boyyyyyy that dunk off the put back over Camby is still dope.

[@drewali7]

who he was as a middle ,high schooler and a collegiate player says alot about allan iverson!!! Lebron James wanted to be Allan Iverson!!! Bron use to worship Allan Iverson!!!

[@JustHannah8]

This just shows how great AI is and was... Even long after you're done, you're still VERY MUCH relevant in the game. THE ANSWER!!!! #3

[@leyosouljaz]

I like this segment, definitely need more‼️

[@ThePatman1980]

I can't believe Allen Iverson is now considered "old school" when he was the leader of the new school back in 1996. Jordan called them punks.. 🤣

[@RIF241]

Lol bruh. It's surreal. He was literally the symbol for new school now he's old school

[@reactking7093]

He's been out of the league for over a decade lol 😂

[@Flinteastwood420]

@@reactking7093 a decade is 10 years my guy. Not 7 and a half.

[@arkadiuszrogala1359]

Yeah he’s definitely not old school. The 90’s was still old school. I guess it just depends on to whom. For others it may be before the merger. It depends on rules and skill sets

[@reactking7093]

@@Flinteastwood420 my fault I thought he retired in 2010

[@MegaMrrunner]

AI is a beast. He humiliated just about every basketball legend from his era.

[@BILLLI2288]

I'd say kyrie is more skilled, but man, iverson defined an entire generation is something of an icon.

[@jeremiahberry1134]

Really well done!

[@DavidSmith-nm7un]

Iverson says “we talkin about practice” while Kyrie says “we’re talking about a game”, like it’s no big deal not showing up.

[@dueynewton1139]

Huh I jus peeped dat difference. A game u still gettin paid for. A.I said he a die fa da game. Preach facts mane!

[@chiefdymondwolf6764]

& Iverson was referring to the fact that his best friend was just killed & the all the media wanted to talk about was him missing practice & not why he missed practice. Not even near the same context.

[@jameswinchester9405]

Preach.

[@spartengamingcode]

Kyrie is like we talking about the shape of the earth now

[@eugenereeves418]

😅

[@roderickscott941]

Time makes people forget how good ai was!

[@Glock7eventeen]

He was arguably the most individually skilled player in nba history. And definitely the most underrated. People really don’t show him the love and respect he deserved.

[@joestuehmer7967]

@@Glock7eventeen Not to mention the refs hated Ai and purposely would not call a bunch of fouls against him which hurt his fg % there was even a fbi investigation about it and the ref stated that Iverson was the main target.. Then he got blackballed at the end of his career they did that to try to tarnish his legacy

[@alcidesgonzalez8370]

That final take 100% on point

[@ksmithcredit]

AI had so much heart and everyone could tell! I respect both of these men tho👍

[@NG-iu3zc]

Never thought I'd see AI described as Old School. I am old.

[@diegobromfield]

15 years from now Kyrie will be old school

[@neffseda4181]

I know NG I know 🥺

[@neffseda4181]

Remember the NBA 2K cover with Ai on the cover

[@jxden2x-447]

@@neffseda4181 there was like 4

[@neffseda4181]

@@jxden2x-447 the 1999 cover bro

[@mr2goode580]

Don’t forget AI was getting crucified for his style of play that most of these players playing nowadays.

[@oogabooga72]

And that's why he never won anything

[@cozyfades1587]

That has nothing to do with who's a better player or not

[@jbcfamily4802]

He also played in an era of hand checking and monster men in the paint.

[@stevelumumbashabazzz5087]

@@oogabooga72 kyrie won because of lebron not because of his style of play

[@scores3575]

@@oogabooga72 he carried Philly to the finals and lost to Kobe and Shaq stfu

[@eglsfan203]

Best Steven A of all time. Always the answer.

[@vicluna393]

The are both great athletes with different generation.. salute for them

[@BlackRotorEx]

Iverson made the path for guys his size. A fearless beast

[@richieanderson3040]

I Love A.I...... but he didn't pave the way that would be Tiny Archibald, Fat Lever but I def respect your comment

[@mr.w4904]

💯

[@Nirvezz]

mugsy bogues..?

[@thamilton1340]

No Brother🤔It's Isiah Thomas...The baddest 6ft under Guard Ever

[@thamilton1340]

And like OG said Tiny and Fat Lever(Walking Triple Double)Whew

[@elitecleanrestoration1219]

I’m rolling with A.I., because he didn’t need an All Star team to make it to the NBA Finals!!!💯💯💯

[@ryanboyd100]

All Day!!

[@jesses5465]

He also didn’t have to go through any all star teams to get there...

[@ryanboyd100]

@@jesses5465 Name another All Star AI played with during that Finals year

[@gregoryemeagwara5933]

@@ryanboyd100 Mutombo, but Mutombo was mainly there for Defense. Without Mutombo Philly doesn't sniff the NBA Finals in 2001🤷‍♂️💯

[@brandoisrael3155]

He has the defensive player of the year in Mutumbo

[@u.u.u9969]

The delivery of this topic was on point. I don't even care what the answer is.

[@georgebarnes6739]

The Answer!… no question necessary!.👌🏾

[@concon8114]

*”You know my answer, it’s gon always be The Answer”*

[@whartonmadkins4474]

😀.......

[@lll5944]

@@whartonmadkins4474 kiss nut

[@whartonmadkins4474]

@@lll5944 😀.... Am I suppose to catch FEELING

[@thatguy6292]

The fact that they are asking this is soooooooo disrespectful to Allen Iverson

[@Litcentral09]

How?

[@MOTIVATIONALSVIDEOS2UPLIFTYOU]

Extremely disrespectful

[@damontejohnson9000]

You act like kylie just trash or some , it’s a legitimate question

[@patrickmatthews8191]

@@Litcentral09 maybe because Kyrie is obviously not better

[@deondreperkins9182]

@@patrickmatthews8191 kyrie has jewelry and im riding with ai but to dismiss kyrie is disrespectful!!

[@AmaanAAAA]

Man I agree with this conclusion so much

[@dzonsanchez4918]

I like that... "the best ability is availability"

[@michaelscott4289]

Iverson hands down! Young Iverson was an animal.

[@detroitdrama3]

That dont mean he was better, kyries literally better then AI in everything

[@mikefraudrings4354]

@@detroitdrama3 Kyrie is not even better than kemba and I'm not a Celtics fan

[@Colormomey556]

Explain to me how he was better? In what facet of the game?

[@kalibaking877]

@@detroitdrama3 fkn dumb

[@YT-io6mx]

@@mikefraudrings4354 yeah the kemba that scored 14 and kyrie dropping 40 on celtics 🤣

[@GeneralBiggs]

Speaking of greatness... Stephen A. is always available for ESPN. He's carrying the whole network.

[@marquise32]

Facts!!

[@SadDad01]

Burnout

[@elliottpierce9823]

Nah, Baby Steven A carries.

[@davidfrey5654]

Can't argue with that. He has his own unique style.

[@acpliego]

If he didn’t shout so much he’d be great

[@jmorgan780]

AI dunk over Camby was 💪🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@wop7897]

kyries my favorite player and tbh iverson had sum nice handles but his handles are no where near kyries , kyrie hits u with 20 new moves every game his bag is insane and the way he can finish around the rim and his 3 point shot is amazing kyrie is definitely the better offensive player but AI is a better all around player with his defense and he can actually lead a team

[@rijulchhabra1725]

AI never needed to dribble it over, The answer had heart, dude was banged up by Shaq and other players in The Man era of BB and still scored way more than Kyrie. AI is the player, The Player! Imagine him playing today, dude played 82 games in a season that time, more minutes per game, more possessions and win MVP and Top Scoring Player, so definately a better offensive player. Plus, he was alone on attacking front, almost always and made the final run, so in Cup Cake Era AI would've been The Answer!

[@21gunzsalute]

A.I. was a killer, 5"11 feet tall 160 lbs pure scorer, a mini pocket Jordan. About his handle? Dont kill me pls HE is The crossover iverson, Starbury, Steve Franchise DRose i put Chef Curry in that list too. Kyrie got Handles true But These dudes are Ankle Breakers

[@GoteiJay]

@@21gunzsalute I feel bad if kyrie did to much getting to the cup away hit you with a good 2 moves and had you leaning just enough to get open same with Steph and drose , kyrie was playing 2k the way he uses his handles, AI was playing the sport itself yeah kyrie has a ring but cmon he had Lebron and a healthy Kevin love AI had mutumbo on the defense but no one was scoring like he was so that tells you enough yeah Ai never hit some super fancy never before seen crossovers and fake dribble or anything but when he had the ball he had a mission and that was to score and that’s what he did

[@cheezezlayer493]

yeah kyrie can create 20 new moves because of the rules no hand check wide spacing and no defense, im not trying to trash kyrie out I thinking his a great player his a sick ball handler but A.I plays in an era of pressure players and still out skilled and out smart them with his handles and ankle breakers scoring more pts getting the MVP and carrying a team w/o a superstar, he played with passion and heart never givesup and keep pushing ti'll the end of the game, probably the only player that pushed kobe to his limit

[@sirsaracenknight5846]

Allen Iverson was reliable. You could trust he'd always be there, and count on him to show up and ball out... Except at practice 😉

[@brandonm809]

I mean we talkin about practice. Not the game. But PRACTICE

[@atifking8731]

@@brandonm809 and I still feel what he was trying to say...

[@blackmarlin3166]

Yeah reliable for one season only he overrated

[@KenpoKid77]

@@blackmarlin3166 Stop it. Putting the words "Iverson" and "overrated" in the same sentence, suggested he's unreliable, shows how much you don't know about basketball. Iverson played 70-game seasons 8 times, Kyrie's only done that 3. Iverson only missed games because of injuries, period. Kyrie has been out for injuries, disputes with management and also ghosted the Nets after catching heat from the media. People knew that if he was cleared to play, Iverson would come to play no matter what. Kyrie was a toss-up until Harden came. So who's less reliable?

[@blackmarlin3166]

@@KenpoKid77 Being reliable by showing up in games and being reliable in being a good player all throughout are two different things. I like ai i got all his jersey but he's way too overrated in fact we only look at that one season everytime we want to praise him when he actually played 14 seasons. Skill-wise he doesn't have a lot of it yeah he can handle the ball well but he's a horrible scorer you can check his advance shooting stats the only thing he didn't shoot horribly in his career was the freethrow he's dreadful at close range, midrange, deep 2s and 3s he basically can't shoot at all, he's also an overrated defender all his steals came from gambling on the passing lane more importantly he doesn't like passing the ball. He can't score he only rely on shot attempts and he doesn't belong on the same planet in terms of talent with kyrie. This debate is disrespectful to kyrie.

[@MaddNomad1015]

I mean... Iverson actually took his team to the finals.

[@user-yq3zw4em6j]

It's like nobody remembers

[@Roooa2312]

Kyrie actually won a finals

[@43SLB_Terrell]

Thank you!!!🤦..... It's pretty simple to me Allen Iverson was the better player Kyrie Irving has the better skills

[@fackumean4371]

@@Roooa2312 Yea with Lebron

[@darrelldemby3961]

Facts

[@TrymeAsshole]

I’d never pick against AI … one of the 🐐 and a true warrior

[@theodoregarcia8830]

Steven a performed too , top level man , big ups to the world

[@kganzon]

The ANSWER NO DOUBT! No one had more heart than AI 🙌🏼

[@caldwmc]

The question wasn't who had more heart 🤣

[@JT-bs2lm]

not even Kobe??

[@sbrooks904]

@@JT-bs2lm no one

[@TheAlmightyClipse]

"WE TALKIN' BOUT PRACTICE!!???"

[@Chaoskind97]

@@TheAlmightyClipse i knew somebody would quote this one.... 😂😂😂

[@dainminor5815]

I'm not even an AI fan but the dude did win an MVP and take a group of rec league players to the finals.

[@jasondickerson3965]

Yep,AI took his team to the finals,kyrie gets carried there lol

[@jaybk718]

Rec league, bruh those players won awards that season. DOP, 6 man...

[@coreyclarke2709]

Facts

[@abhiverma9316]

I mean lebron did take the 2018 Cavaliers to finals without kyrie... So with or without kyrie , they were going to the finals anyways... Without AI , 76ers weren't making it to the finals

[@visualizecreate2530]

But in that era most of the league were rec league players. The level of talent today is vastly superior.

[@AllHailxBuzz25]

Love this show

[@johnmarvinybanez191]

Respect for kyrie, but remember, iverson made that insane dribbling skills when guarding a player is in your face and hand checks are normal for defense.

[@TG-cz6md]

Al changed the game. AI is nowadays game. The passion around him was insane. And he is The Answer.

[@RetroJetro]

They are both my favorite past and present players

[@alexisadamsengracia6367]

Not even close. We all know The ANSWER!🔥

[@jefemccallister371]

people dont know that A.I. crossover was so deadly they had to make the carry rule !

[@SoShi910]

The only thing he carried is the sixers.

[@TheIcemanthomas]

Carrying existed before that. They actually made carrying legal, not the opposite

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

Think about how many players were so good they changed the rules to stop them........ AI is one of the few along with Shaq, KD, Barkley, Bron, Harden, Mike and I know I’m missing someone but that is literally all-time company in that group.

[@WiLlCBJPdd]

@@SoShi910 fax

[@emperfectfamily7690]

Allen iverson change the culture of basketball 🏀 2000-2002 nobody on this earth 🌍 could handle A I not only that Allen iverson all star mvp NBA mvp before labron came back Kyree only one 20 games a season ain’t on iverson level at all

[@sirrizal4206]

Allen Iverson! It’s not even close! Even MJ said that “it was a good thing that he (AI) wasn’t 6’6”.

[@chinonycc]

Didn’t kobe say that?

[@amariandsky]

Kobe said that.. not mj

[@yande-chawesimunyola6486]

AI SAID THAT KYRIE"S HANDLES WERE BETTER

[@sirrizal4206]

@@yande-chawesimunyola6486 That doesn’t necessarily make him the better player. But you’re entitled to your own opinion. AI basically brought the Sixers to the Finals, battling the vaunted LA Lakers. No less than the great Kobe.

[@paulgeorge1316]

that was Kobe and it was 6"5.

[@hbubbachuck]

that " you know my answer , the answer " quote got me goosebumbs. Ai build diff man

[@aze4964]

Everytime theres a conversation with a retired legend and a current one the retired one always wins because people appreciate players way less when they are still active

[@Bajoy]

AI's longevity and influence to the game makes him a legend.

[@bjy1234]

influence, yes I agree but AI played 914 reg season games which isn't much considering KD and Russ are in their 900+ games

[@jcglez9491]

Which means that with time kyrie will pass AI

[@byrdiedaboss4472]

@@bjy1234 what does that mean? Also remember they actually played defense in AI day and they don't in today's game.

[@30kUzi]

@@byrdiedaboss4472 wdym they don’t today 😐 or offense has jus gotten better over the years

[@Marc2official-]

Doesn’t make him better tho

[@kenwilson5641]

Iverson as he actually showed up to play games and not take a day off to rest

[@rb9888]

kyrie would be lost in ai's era.

[@hooikidz]

Except for “practice”

[@dee65cee53]

Kyrie never plays a full season he is always injury prone. Iverson played defense too. I’ll stay with AI on this one.

[@ClippedHeaven]

@@dee65cee53 kyrie Irving actually plays amazing defense..

[@louisstipe7925]

Ouch...that hurt - Kyrie

[@GOAT_city]

Have everybody forget that kyrie can’t even carry a team (Boston Celtics) and ai carried a whole bunch of junior varsity players to the finals

[@lovesecret0119]

Against lakers with kobe and shaq, may i add, and won the first first game, dude scores in the paint with shaq inside without 3sec rules

[@barrysanders1013]

Good Answer

[@wax4168]

Kyrie is definitely something special,but I think we all know the Answer to the Question..

[@delanstephen1824]

I like that

[@harriscarson4207]

I like how u did that

[@JK-nh2it]

And the answer is Paul Pierce is god

[@1SpAiNafoot]

Bars

[@demhafdjh6324]

I love Kyrie but give me AI, he was so amazing man

[@user-ti2xi9bd4u]

“ I was in attendance at that game too.” 😂

[@ryangallegos3218]

That shot on Vince was crazy, he wasnt even looking at the basket until the last second.

[@fordcinco]

For all young bloods that haven't seen AI play. He is on another level. Coming from a Kobe fan.

[@romeonorelm.geonzon9177]

and even Michael Jordan said if AI is 6"6 he will be the best player of all Time.

[@HellusRaizen]

Yeah he was better than Kobe,if he had shaq he would've been a champion plus finals mvp.

[@trollking4058]

@@romeonorelm.geonzon9177 What's funny is that Kobe said the same about Kyrie.

[@jamaletaquanblake7972]

@@trollking4058 what did u just say kyrie is 6'6 he don't do contact finishes so there is no way he could ever be in day conversation with no defense this man is a passenger where ever he go all these people we talking are clutch all the time y themselves while kyrie get the option to pick and choose when to be clutch

[@trollking4058]

@@jamaletaquanblake7972 Kyrie is 6'2 and he does do contact finishes. I said that Kobe said that the league should be happy he ain't 6'6''. Also, I have no idea why you think Kyrie picks and chooses when to be clutch. That makes no sense. It's just that, in clutch time, he asks for the ball, like every clutch player in history, and makes most of them. That's clutch. Also, Kyrie hasn't had very many chances to lead. He's had 3. He's only really been bad the second time. On the Nets, no one's the leader. They all take turns playing iso and having 40 point nights.

[@treykennedy8897]

A.I. walked so guys like Kyrie could run, it’d be crazy to see a young AI in today’s game.

[@hpmroyale8364]

AI's numbers would go up in todays league. FG %'s and 3pt %.. Ai's first step would destroy this league.. he used to step back back in the day but nowadays he probably wouldn't have to.

[@NOirving210]

A

[@quantumbender5840]

Bruh Kyrie is like AI, thats why this is a debate

[@treykennedy8897]

@@quantumbender5840 That’s exactly what that turn of phrase means, that AI struggled cuz they’re a lot alike... BRUH.

[@etomdaniel8550]

"You know my answer, it's gon always be 'The Answer'" As it should be😌

[@thakingnme9795]

I agree!

[@K1DFR3SH77]

AI was so good that he didn’t even need to practice...

[@thesorrow4664]

💀😆

[@cea6780]

Facts

[@tjfreeman7179]

Mic drop with that.

[@datruth2179]

Or lift weights

[@ogbarryjones4791]

That's Phunny But That Story was Taken Out of Context and Most Don't Know...Allen's Best Phriend Had Just Been Murdered and He Didn't Attend Practice and an Insensitive Reporter Asked an Inappropriate Question an A.I. Said "My Bestie was Just Killed and You Talking About PRACTICE?"...PRACTICE? ☻You Just Heard The TRUTH ABOUT PRACTICE

[@Miraclex97]

Let's not forget Iverson had single Handley transformed a lottery team into a powerhouse in a stronger Eastern Conference. Meanwhile, Kyrie talent couldn't change the fate of Cavs in a weak Eastern Conference.

[@devinjones4146]

Exactly. Idk why people don't understand this. Its blatantly obvious who had the bigger impact on the teams they played for.

[@elaycohen9218]

And couldn't handle the expectations of leading a super talented team in Boston , instead of being a contender for the Championship he actually ruined the chemistry and they played better when he was injured... Some players are just not meant to be the Alpha

[@truzzprod.8191]

Iverson is better but the East was trash lol

[@devinjones4146]

@@truzzprod.8191 The east was trash when kyrie was alone in cleveland also lol. Lebron's heat was basically the team to beat. The east was also weaker that year iverson made the finals, but he went through teams that were at least as good as his. He beat Reggie Miller and Jalen rose, Vince Carter, and Ray allen. So, it's not like he was running through the east with a heavily favored team like lebron did with miami.

[@truzzprod.8191]

@@devinjones4146 fully argee but still both had trash conferences

[@arasusekaran3060]

In Denver, Iverson averaged 24 and 27.

[@terryc4274]

100% with his entire sentiment

[@saiarjuna]

and for the first time EPSN compares two other players not named Lebron and MJ

[@jeffreywitherspoon]

facts

[@SD4philly]

its ABOUT TIME

[@truthseeker2587]

Kids, it’s Iverson in this universe or on any for that matter. You just had to be there to understand (late 1990s to 2000s)

[@yallknow1272]

I was there and AI is no where near Irving. Stop it. ai can't even shoot. It ends there. Kyrie hit a shot to win a ring. AI didn't wanna practice. Just stop it.

[@GuyNoOneGivesAFuccAbout]

@@yallknow1272'no where near Irving??. That dust you're smoking got you clouded lmao

[@edhaugabook8176]

Could not have said it better

[@MulhollandDr]

Exactly. Replays and tapes just don't do it justice.

[@dontwaittobegreat5808]

PERIOD!

[@ro2real839]

Thank you Stephen A

[@spencerbridgman4202]

The answer himself obviously !!! He is So underrated, (and he is RATED STILL) 💯☝️🤫🌹

[@hafwaybrown]

Iverson Changed the game, He made being yourself cool, Tattoos and cornrows when it was frowned upon, Streetball thug attitude when it was frowned upon. Yet, 80% of kids wanted to have a shooting sleeve, leg sleeve, finger bandanas and a crossover. He inspired more players than Kyrie could ever hope to. And im from CLE. Id never discredit what Kyrie did for the city. Iverson is just on a different level.

[@guestguests603]

Yep I mentioned the same thing too! Trend setter how the nba is today.

[@richieanderson3040]

Respect everything you said, but we differ in what Kyrie did for us...b/c he had 3+ yrs to keep us afloat but instead he kept us in the cellar. He never got us to the playoffs, never above .500 or 35+ wins...Nobody was talking about Kyrie until LBJ came home yes he hit the game winner but like I said we wouldn't have that opportunity if LBJ didn't turn around our pathetic team b/c Kyrie couldn't & didn't!?!? So, since you won't discredit Kyrie I WILL!!!!

[@hafwaybrown]

Thats not. Discredit. Thats just not giving him props. Everyone knows lebron brought the ship here

[@richieanderson3040]

@@hafwaybrown No doubt, but sometimes just gotta release on Kyrie b/c the media & haters defend Kyrie & tear down LBJ..So, for me Kyrie gets undeserved credit when actuality he was the PROBLEM & not the ''ANSWER''...did u c how I did that lol

[@hafwaybrown]

@@richieanderson3040 yes very punny