L MADE ME SAD!! - FIRST React to Death Note 1x14

[@Oathkeeperclash]

when L calls light his friends, Light's eyes return to the bright-eyed round shape that they were before the death note.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

RIGHT?!

[@happyslapsgiving5421]

The man who died in L's place (remember, L was still trying to find out whether Kira really could kill people from a distance) wasn't merely a prisoner. He was on death row and scheduled to be executed that very day.

[@nathanhall9345]

L also wasn't sure this was how it worked. He was kind of shocked when it did.

[@seanpuckett3278]

So while he was going to die anyways, the guy was still a stand in for L, even if only for a minute before L comes back on the tv

[@eowyns4181]

My heart broke as well when L called Light his first friend ever. I can't imagine the loneliness he must have been feeling!The new lighting and audio are looking good!

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

I know!! I'd be his friend :( Also yay!! I'm so glad you think so!!

[@marshtomp8]

I have no doubt in my mind that if Light started dating a girl the moment the second Kira came in contact with the first Kira, L would instantly assume said girl must be the second Kira

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

OH FOR SURE!!

[@Witheringdawn2]

I always read Light's shock as being surprised that it would be that easy. As he said, "that's all it took?" Like he probably expected it to be more difficult, more of a challenge, as it has been so far

[@InocencioPatronJr]

i think why light was taken aback by REMs sudden agree to his blatant disrespectful proposal is because light has been use to playing complicated mind games and complex emotional manipulation in getting what he wants for quite sometime since he met L, but by only a single statement right there and there and REM agreed, so in his mind, he was like "what thats all there is in this game"...

[@LaceEditing]

It's suggested a few times throughout the show that even though Light wants to kill L, it seems like somewhere within him there's a mutual feeling that he and L are actually friends, and likely the only friends that both of them have. Light being a bit stunned by Rem agreeing to kill L is probably stemming from a slight anxiety about having to accept that the sorta game he & L are playing could be coming to an end and that it's very sudden

[@jimmyabort8763]

SPOILER: They are not. I just leave it at that.

[@MrCaw77]

I agree with this. I don't think Light somewhere deep down sees L as a friend though, I don't think he cares for L at all in an intimate or emotional way. I think he respects L and doesn't want his game to end with someone that gives him entertainment. He sees L as an object like everyone else to his creation of a new world.

[@LaceEditing]

@@MrCaw77 If we assume that Light is a psychopath incapable of empathy and genuine emotional connection, then at the very least he probably sees L as someone whom he can relate to more than anyone else, and I think that there's a part of him that would feel saddened by the fact that once L is gone then he's effectively back to being bored again with nobody to challenge him

[@seanpuckett3278]

@@LaceEditing​​⁠but you can’t assume that about Light because he isn’t a psychopath, he shows emotion all the time (and I don’t mean when he’s faking emotions). He could be classified as a sociopath, but L also fits all the same criteria as Light so they are both high functioning sociopaths, L because that’s who he is and Light because he came in contact with the death note

[@WiseGuy770]

Loving the reactions Your the first DN reactor who actually genuinely analyzes the show very thoroughly 🙏🏽💯

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Thank you so much! I try my best!!

[@Kevin-lw5mi]

I watch a lot of various reaction channels, and you're one of my new favorites. I'm confident that if you keep releasing content like this that you're going to get a significant viewer base. To me you're in the genre of "educated-on-the-subject person reacts to beloved media they've never consumed before". But in a lot of these other channels it feels like the person is kind of making sure that they educationally flex and teach the audience since that's the whole point of their channel. So its like they go into it thinking "alright keep an eye out for possible things to wax about using my knowledge on the subject" whereas with your videos it just feels like a normal genuine reaction except its flavored with this very sharp intuition that's fueled by your education and experience with stories. You really don't come off like you have anything to prove. It just feels like you love stories and your mind automatically uses your education and wisdom as tools to analyze what's going on. Honestly a breath of fresh air in terms of reaction content.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Thank you so much lovely!! 😭💖

[@adamhurd1560]

In terms of support, I honestly just think you're a really likeable person and you're very intelligent and your passion comes through. I love seeing the level of passion come through and that you're so smart that you can piece things together or analyse things so well. Its really nice to see. You deserve the love and support. Merry Christmas!

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Thank you so much Adam. That truly means a lot! Have an amazing Christmas and wishing you all the best!

[@InocencioPatronJr]

i think why misa is like so into light is not only that shes a teenager, although thats part of it and other than the reason that light is what gives her hope and justice for his parents, but also i think its the reflection of how japanese perpective of love in the year 90s, compounded by her indebtedness and shared values with light and given the fact that light is attractive, all in one..

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

Not to mention that they seem to be the only two on the planet "graced" by Shinigami.

[@thefonz8373]

It's not just Japanese. The concept of falling so hopelessly in love with the concept of a person rather than the person themself is a very Non-Western POV. For us, Love is always irrational, makes you illogical and it feels good. I have always hated how relatively clean Western concept of love is. It is supposed to be messy and spicy XD. Also yeah it isn't just a teenage girl thing, she sees Light as her metaphorical "Light at the end of the tunnel". She isn't just in love with him, she is devoted to him. It is like the people that take to cults because of the charismatic cult leader. Also I have to point it out, just because I see this a lot lately. Misa Amane isn't a misunderstood bean. Yes she has brain washed herself into trusting Light or Kira I guess, but she also has blood on her hands. She started killing even before Light asked her to. It is like the people desperately trying to rebrand Harley quinn as a Feminist icon or whatever. It is shallow, pathetic and disgusting. It feeds in to the narrative of Women do bad things because they have to and men do bad things because they want to. It is a very sexist view point, but it is directed against men, so it is ok. I get it, Misa underwent a lot of trauma, but it doesn't justify her blood-thirstiness.

[@InocencioPatronJr]

@@thefonz8373 well its true, that misas love is not just a japanese pov of love, its the ideal form of love, but hey what do we know overall about others ethnicities point of view of love.., if taken the stance of the author about love his function process framework and experience, given the fact that this anime was done in 90s, where love has a different meaning culturally and behaviorally by society, my best bet is its the authors view point of love., but for someone who has already a conscious of societies value in the 90s such as me, seeing misa's passion for light is but normal and just, other than the fact that she thinks she owes light and believed Kira's values which was also a compounding factor significantly, and misa herself says that after she sees light at first sight she fell in love, obviously shes physcially attracted to light, well im just saying that theres not only one factor here for misas level of being inlove with light...

[@SLBoy100]

Im pretty sure I saw an interview with the author saying L doesn't really think of Light as a friend, don't remember where, it was a while ago. He's just trying to provoke a reaction out of Light.

[@skytterd9491]

Yipppeee a Christmas upload!! I still get very emotional whenever I see that scene of L telling Light that he's his only friend 🥲 I can't wait for you to react to the next episode; it's one of my favorites :P

[@emperornguyen]

"Stop licking the doughnut, eat it!" >:( Buahahahaha I love that so much for some reason XD

[@BlackAutMedia]

There's two main reasons Light is trying to keep Misa a secret and not be open about dating her: 1) L personally knows Light's father, who could vouch about his personal life and could answer honestly if he was aware he was dating Misa. Light doesn't want to be questioned about any new people that came into his life very recently because L Is already scrutinizing his movements and specifically is checking for new people to show up and start interacting with him since he suspects the second Kira met the first. 2) L also knows that the second Kira has the power to kill with just a face. They bring this up more directly in the manga when they had the police beat chapter to try and catch the second kira you saw in episodes 12-13, but for all he knows, the second Kira could upgrade the original's powers to pass that power to him and thus put L in immediate danger since Light has his face but lacks a name. Without knowledge of the death note, he has to make worst case scenario assumptions. Light is trying to divert from that by seeing multiple women and not wanting to be spotted in public with Misa because he knows L is going to interrogate them both and they can't reasonably both convincingly lie about their history if they're questioned separately. Light also can't just bring Misa with him because L is extremely confidential with the investigation. Phones aren't allowed, there's a protocol just to get to his room, and there's an additional detail in the manga where Watari is intentionally kept out of the room during several scenes. That way if Light were to try and kill everyone in the room, he can't kill Watari who would be able to apprehend him as Kira. That's also why Light asks his mother and sister to not talk about Misa to others. Regarding the Death note rule you saw during the intermission, you're right. You can't use the death note to indirectly kill people. You can only directly kill who you name. You couldn't write something like "Joe brings an explosive to a building and detonates it" because it'd kill other people in the room. Obviously this is all building up to Light's ultimate plan to kill all the apple farmers in the world, forcing Ryuk to sacrifice himself for his apples.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

_"You can't use the death note to indirectly kill people."_ With the exception of suicide, as Gelus never wrote his own name. EDIT: If a Shinigami causing their own death counts as "killing people", I mean.

[@TalesoftheBoojum]

Love the new lighting! Merry Christmas!

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Merry Christmas!! ❤️

[@PatheticApathetic]

16:18 Soichiro is my favorite character, but Sayu is so precious. Love her to death. Love your makeup, too! Forgot to mention the awesome Bulbasaur earrings in the last one

[@frogpaste]

Merry Christmas! As I understand it, the man who died in place of L was already scheduled to be executed that day, but would have the execution stayed if he survived the broadcasts. I think Light meant that L wouldn't let an innocent person take his place if L was forced to appear on TV so Kira could kill him. I'm enjoying your reactions and your thoughtfulness through each episode! 😁

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Ah that's possibly what he meant haha!! Merry Christmas and thank you!!

[@royalrosepetal]

L and Light view the case like a game with a winner and a loser, and so finding an easy win doesn't feel good. (Also he's probably surprised she actually said yes)

[@bluiwi]

hey! i binged watched your reaction to death note last night and i just wanted to tell you that is really nice to see someone as smart as you analyzing the show!! don't let those comments from people with 0 media literacy get to you, you're doing a great job understanding the series :D

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Ah thank you so much!! That's so very kind of you!!

[@jamesvillas428]

Im used to watching you with glasses and those eyes is amazing especially when locked in 🤭. L calling light a "friend" hits hard everytime. I'm wondering what will Sophie do if she happens to have a death note? 🤔

[@The5armdamput33]

A lot of people have a difficult time accepting the idea of Light intentionally killing his father, but if you pay attention....

[@lautael5299]

Yeah L saying that breaks my heart. I do think the anime version goes more for earnestness on his part than the manga but I'd have to recheck it. Anyway, happy holidays!

[@yusrawaleed9772]

That friend quote from L was gaslighting and manipulation tactic he is manipulative like Light too. What's surprising Light actually reacted that much to the statement. I mean Misa professed her love and he is like 'yeah this girl is insane' 😂

[@Ruritsu]

Light's a huge scumbag, from how he treats Misa, to the callous way he goes about murdering people who oppose him, to the way he thinks about criminals and even to the way he's just totally ok with pretending to be good friends with a guy he's trying to murder. However as he said "he was bored" before the deathnote, and aside from the initial introduction to the supernatural world, L is probably the most interesting thing that's ever happened to Light. He's having fun being challenged for once in his life and when he finds out he can essentially "cheat" his way to victory he's taken aback. Ultimately though I don't think he at all feels bad about killing his frenemy or even really considers L to be his "friend" proper, but rather is just selfishly being sad his petty rivalry is coming to what feels like an abrupt and premature end.

[@masikohhhaaa]

This is chess and light has a queen on the board now.

[@carlosc.4955]

that part of watching misa as a grown woman is really relatabe for many people. I remember i admired Light's wit and quick thinking and thought his way of thinking was unmoral but still correct way of thinking. Of couse over the years i get to see light as a childish character full of flaws and with no moral compass. That is one of the reason i like to revisit the show. To see this conflict with new eyes.

[@daimyx]

Merry Christmas! New microphone sounds good!

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Thank you so much and I hope you had an amazing Christmas ❤️

[@Anna-mn5nf]

Merry Christmas Sophie! Your reaction to compliments is so British, we're not good at accepting praise! Great video and I hope you keep discussing how female characters are written/portrayed. Sometimes we can get so used to misogyny that we don't notice it. It's also great to have well written female characters pointed out.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Merry Christmas Anna!! I will definitely keep discussing it even if people get annoyed because I think it's important to talk about!!

[@gazeinthesky]

Honestly, the misogyny in Death Note isn't a character standpoint. In Obha (the writer)'s other works, his sexism is put on blast so I really don't see it as any true character traits within the characters in Death Note, but rather Obha's viewpoints towards women being expressed. Also, Obha confirmed L was lying about Light being his friend and that he was trying to manipulate him in Volume 13.

[@cross9687]

Rem is one of my favorite characters in the story and shes gonna have more great moments

[@wonderpossum3295]

Hell, I've known adult women who act a lot like Misa. And that's without the hero worship that comes from Light having killed the people who killed Misa's parents...

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Yeah the women that are infatuated with serial killers comes to mind!

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Light would kill anyone to keep from getting caught, including his own father.

[@gazeinthesky]

I mean, he wouldn't kill his sister. spoilers (kinda): The manga proves this with Mello and Sayu's incident. Though the anime skips out on a lot.

[@VinnieSajan]

There's so much I want to say, but I'll just end up spoiling the show....20:00 This is a good moment and I agree with your commentary about it. I read another comment here that apparently the author made L say this to just see how Light would react again, but my head canon refuses to believe it. Lol.

[@MidnightKittehBoi]

Love this reaction and you are exactly right with the misogyny coming from a lot of the fan base that are big light yagami fans. I say this knowing that I also had a soft spot for light when I was younger and first watched this show with my bf at the time.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Yeah! I found it super interesting how quickly people will defend Light whilst bashing Misa for doing the exact same thing whilst also condemning any critique of the writing feeling dismissive of women in relation to Naomi and Ray and how she was being reduced to 'wife and mother' etc!

[@adamhurd1560]

I remember watching a reactor a very long time ago who was also really smart and she essentially had to quit reacting to it because she was getting some genuinely horrible stuff said to her and people just spoiling the show and being nasty in general

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

@@adamhurd1560 That's awful. I can confirm I've had some horrible stuff but my mod is amazing at making sure he removes most things before I ever catch them. The internet can be so horrible sometimes 🥲

[@adamhurd1560]

@@DrSophieDarlingReacts I obviously don't know the full story and I think she was having a rough time in general with mental health but yeah, I'd noticed that some shows attract some really awful behaviour. I'm glad you've got a good mod and I'm sorry you've been receiving some horrible stuff already.

[@eurussaphire]

i am NOT used to seeing you without glasses haha good reaction though glad you enjoy the show

[@yanss7723]

I really love the way you analyze the show !

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Thank you so much!!

[@Wollfanges]

love the mic and light they are really good no worry, and yeah the mic i love it incredible and love your react, i'm happy youtube recommend me your first ep of death note can't wait to see more of it and other show in the future. Would love to see your analysis for my favorite anime ever of all time one of the best story ever in my eyes but it's either people are doing great react of it or just react it because it's controversial and they do empty video of it or even watiching it even if they hate it just to generate hate click because of how they see the story sadly people love to hate it but it's because it need to be understand and analyzed with great deep story, with a lot of detail about human being, reflexion action why people act like that think like that what thing from the past cana ffect them and how much it can affect them can they change and how show it's a hard and long road but if you want and try harder you can etc i'm gonna stop i would speak about it for hours 😅

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Aw thank you so much!! What's the show?!

[@Wollfanges]

@@DrSophieDarlingReacts it's Mushoku tensei i love it so much the light novel or even the anime, i'm sad not enough good quality reaction channel doing it beside some rare case or a psychologist doing it because for me it's one of the perfect show for deep analysis to story and specially character people stay focused on only bad behavior show and close their mind ot it, instead of seeing like a tool for development

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

@@Wollfanges I'll make a note of it and add it to my list! I do have plans for my next series after Death Note and AOT but I'll definitely be interested to look into it!

[@Wollfanges]

@@DrSophieDarlingReacts omg it would be incredible to see it one day from your pov thanks for taking time to read all of this ! can't wait to see future show after these 2 ps : for this show don't let some moment of the first half of s1 part 1 block you at the end it meant to be feel a certain way and be used as tool for character dev (i said that because a lot of people stayed block to these thing and prevent them to enjoy the show)

[@yuu5175]

Actual women here who do experience misogyny can see through it lol So don't feel bad for pointing it out. I hope the bad comments from these men don't discourage you too much. I think Death Note is a masterpiece, but we can't just ignore the blantant misogyny and fetishizing of its female characters, it SHOULD be discussed, not thrown under the rug just because the rest of the writing is good. So thank you for speaking out!

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Absolutely agree. I think the writing very much shows it's age but that opens up room for further discussion too on how anime has progressed and adapted over time 😊❤️

[@computernerd1101]

I don't find Misa Amane nearly as likeable as Naomi Misura. Naomi was intelligent, beautiful, and moral, and what Light Yagami did to her makes his treatment of Misa look wholesome by comparison. Misa's moral compass is as deep in the gutter as Light's. Also, her intelligence is selective, to put it nicely.

[@RoninTheJonin]

Thing is.. Watching the show and being in their world are two different things..

[@DingoEnderZOE2]

9:58 Teenaged girl? Youd be surprised to know that Misa is actually older than Light right now. Also it would be suspicious if he was just around one specific woman who L would definitely investigate further so to counter that Light would have to see multiple girls. 12:27 Yes indeed lets be real. If light was Ugly Misa would just help him out of appreciation and keep it platonic. Nothing shallow about wanting to find the object of your affections to be visually pleasing..😂

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Wait, she's older?!

[@DingoEnderZOE2]

@DrSophieDarlingReacts She's not THAT much older but yup Light is younger than Misa.

[@Mike-di1og]

She’s still a teenager, though. Misa is currently 19 and Light is 18

[@yusrawaleed9772]

​@@Mike-di1og Nopes she was 20 here

[@Mike-di1og]

@@yusrawaleed9772 All official materials have her as 19 at this point in the series. Even with the difference in years between anime and manga, birth dates have been adjusted accordingly. There is no officially published material that claims she is 20 at the time of her introduction.

[@njkid973]

I wonder? Ryuk seems to laugh every time he hears a Lie, Like when the lady gave him a fake name and didn't die. 🤔 he laughed when light said you're the most beautiful women🧐

[@af3897]

i 10000000% feel how you feel about misa, even when i first watched DN as a 14yo girl lol

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

It's so hard not to cringe :')

[@Pazij]

Another banger!

[@iampotsataja]

You're the cat in a cat and a mouse chase. The mouse runs into a trap and dies. Would you be happy?

[@teacherverina]

I remember when the show aired and everyone was shipping Light x L ...

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Why does that not strike me haha!!

[@af3897]

and still are, almost 2 decades later haha

[@jpcsdutra]

Merry Christmas, Darling! I think Light's point about dating other girls and not really being seen together is because it's hella suspicious to the people investigating him. Until last month he was abstaining from relationships for study, he's really not seen around girls at all the whole time he's under heavy survailance, and then out of nowhere he's in a dedicated and commited relationship; the exact same time there's a second Kira dying to meet the first Kira? It's hella suspicious if not a dead giveaway. He needs time to build "an interest in women" and then "to know the right one". At this point in time, he knows that L is still suspicious of him. I've always been adamant that L is as much of a psychopath as Light is, the only difference is that he has learned to 'harness' or at the very least keep his stuff under control; as psychopathy doesn't really have to do with a killer instinct, just impaired or non-existant empathy. I think that, as good and as touching as this one scene is, it's a lot more about L trying to instill some kind of guilt trip in Light than it is about an actual feeling. The two of them have a lot of mutual respect for each other because at the end of the day, they are so exceptional that it is hard to find peers, and in that they can relate; but I really doubt it's more than that.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Merry Christmas!! Yeah - that's definitely an oversight on my behalf! Thank you for the further input. I do appreciate that! As to L that is a really interesting perspective. As of right now I'm not sure if I agree but I do respect and appreciate it. Though I imagine my opinion might change the more I watch and delve into the show! :D

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

_"I've always been adamant that L is as much of a psychopath as Light is, the only difference is that he has learned to 'harness' or at the very least keep his stuff under control; as psychopathy doesn't really have to do with a killer instinct, just impaired or non-existant empathy."_ But L never shows he lacks empathy, we see he basically represses it except to do his job e.g. Light asks him to consider how it feels to be accused of being Kira and L takes a moment as if he's switching his empathy to "normal human".

[@jpcsdutra]

@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps I think they do a little 'playing pretend' if you will. In that same conversation, Light pretends to be offended that he is a suspect and that it is hurtful. At that moment Light isn't feeling any of that, he's just lying through his teeth. I read the moment of L stopping to think about it being a lot more like he's reading him and realizing "oh yeah, for a person with normal feelings that *would* be a thing. IF I'm wrong, and there's a low chance I might be, that was probably hurtful.". It's true that that's a consideration that L has that Light doesn't, but that's what I mean with L being more able to harness it than Light is. The entire time they are pretending to each other that they are "a normal good person"; but L isn't just intelligent, he gets inside the minds of criminals for a living. I think the supposition that he actively makes choices to be the world's best detective instead of the world's best criminal is a more accurate one. L never takes any kind of stance based on feelings, ever. Episode 1 he's putting a criminal to die in his place. FBI agents die, that is seen as a relief because now the taskforce is more manageable and trust-worthy. Kira 2 shows up, he's more than fine a man that just had a heart attack having to take care of the situation (and is pretty not shaken about someone else in his close circle of a task force just dropping dead moments before). Everytime he raises his voice comes across more as "I have to be assertive to these people having a breakdown" than "I'm feeling exasperated right now". He barely emotes. He barely changes his voice. He doesn't express satisfaction even at his victories. He doesn't express frustration at his losses. I think the easy read is that L is just extremely logical and intelligent; but in a matter of fact way, the most gifted kids are usually the most emotionally immature for a variety of reasons. To me, the reason why L hasn't really "crumbled" so far, at any point, in anyway, is because he's incapable of doing so. The only time he actually is caught off guard is when he actually has to ponder on the possibility of the supernatural existing, and he's more shocked than he is scared. I think their relationship is more Hannibal Lector helping catch Buffalo Bill, but in a world where he didn't commit crimes beforehand than it is emo Batman catching law-school Joker.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

@@jpcsdutra _"I think they do a little 'playing pretend' if you will."_ It's certainly possible but why would L feign empathy in front of Light Yagami but feign it as he does? For a psychopath that would be as everyday as smiling. We've seen L perform as "everyman" on the phone at least once by this point so we know there's some thespian in there. _"In that same conversation, Light pretends to be offended that he is a suspect and that it is hurtful. At that moment Light isn't feeling any of that, he's just lying through his teeth."_ Agreed. _"I read the moment of L stopping to think about it being a lot more like he's reading him and realizing "oh yeah, for a person with normal feelings that would be a thing. IF I'm wrong, and there's a low chance I might be, that was probably hurtful."."_ That might be exactly what L is thinking but that in itself doesn't say anything about L being a psychopath or not. _"The entire time they are pretending to each other that they are "a normal good person";"_ Arguably L never does that. He does the Sherlock Holmes "I'm on the side of the law but if I'm normal or good I leave for others to make up their own mind about." thing. _"but L isn't just intelligent, he gets inside the minds of criminals for a living."_ He does but does he do it without empathy? Hannibal Lecter wasn't "vibing" with Buffalo Bill's feelings, he had Buffalo Bill on the couch. _"L never takes any kind of stance based on feelings, ever. Episode 1 he's putting a criminal to die in his place. FBI agents die, that is seen as a relief because now the taskforce is more manageable and trust-worthy. Kira 2 shows up, he's more than fine a man that just had a heart attack having to take care of the situation (and is pretty not shaken about someone else in his close circle of a task force just dropping dead moments before). Everytime he raises his voice comes across more as "I have to be assertive to these people having a breakdown" than "I'm feeling exasperated right now". He barely emotes. He barely changes his voice. He doesn't express satisfaction even at his victories. He doesn't express frustration at his losses."_ I said L basically represses his empathy except to do his job. These things you point to are how he represses being emotional altogether _in order to_ do his job. Light raging and fuming at L's "getting him" is Light being emotional but he's not being empathetic. Although L does express satisfaction and frustration but I'm sure you'd argue the ones with Light in the room are performative which it might be, it's very hard to tell. _"I think the easy read is that L is just extremely logical and intelligent; but in a matter of fact way, the most gifted kids are usually the most emotionally immature for a variety of reasons."_ It depends on what we mean by gifted. For example, I have a high IQ and very logical and I was always emotionally mature. I have other issues that makes some suspect autism e.g. creativity, am I or am I not a creative person? That question boils down to personal definition. _"To me, the reason why L hasn't really "crumbled" so far, at any point, in anyway, is because he's incapable of doing so."_ What do you mean by "crumbling"? Are you saying that's something psychopaths don't do but all non-psychopaths do? _"The only time he actually is caught off guard is when he actually has to ponder on the possibility of the supernatural existing, and he's more shocked than he is scared."_ We've seen Light Yagami scared. What would L's fear or lack of it prove? _"I think their relationship is more Hannibal Lector helping catch Buffalo Bill, but in a world where he didn't commit crimes beforehand than it is emo Batman catching law-school Joker."_ How ironic that we both went to Lecter but in opposite ways.

[@quieness]

I remember HATING Misa when i watched this in hs. The blind apraisal towards Light drove me NUTS x'd

[@Baneofvader]

I’m fairly certain the first friend that I have ever had quote was pure and utter gas light lmao

[@BlackAutMedia]

It's a shame that you get so much hostility for it with how you talked about Raye Penber, but honestly it's a symptom of a broader issue that Death Note just has a misogyny problem. I love the series but it really isn't interested in characterizing the women in the case as having much agency beyond being attractive looking and status symbols for men or to be pawns to be manipulated by the guys. There's a lot of really interesting ideas with the women as we see with the likes of Naomi. A woman who was clearly not entirely okay with quitting her job to support her family having a husband who frankly was pretty dismissive toward her despite her being right on the money and now is grieivng his loss is an extremely compelling premise for a multilayered character, but then she's just manipulated by Light and killed off as quickly. There's a case you can make for the discussion of Misa through the lens of carceral feminism in how she gains a sense of security through Kira (even though he's very much not that) because Misa has been a victim of violence herself multiple times. But as we see the narrative isn't really interested in that and instead is just "Misa has no self-respect and is an obedient object for Light to manipulate." Rem is out here carrying the team so far. It's still a lot of fun and obviously a lot of thought went into the show, but its handling of the women in the cast and just how the series thinks and talks about the women in it in ways that go unchallenged within the context of the series is something I feel holds it back a lot. It's a shame too because there are other adaptations of Death Note, notably the musical that do present the events of the story slightly differently and the way they portray several of these characters does them a lot more justice.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Beautifully put!! Yes - I feel this show (not sure when it was released but presuming early 2000s?) could very much be showing its age in terms of how it depicts women and you are absolutely SPOT ON with Naomi which is what rubbed me the wrong way. That it was evident that she did not want to set aside her career just yet and though Ray may have had the intention of wanting to protect her, she was also a detective in her own right and should have been allowed the opportunity to decide on whether she wanted to be involved or not. Her identity was very much reduced to 'wife and mother' in saying that she would forget about being a detective once they were married and had kids. As if her identity ceased to exist beyond being an extension of him. Rem really is out here carrying the team!! I am hoping that there's more to Misa as the show goes but I'm not holding out hope. I very much feel she's going to exist as a way for Light to manipulate her. Whereas there is a lot that could have been done in showing how Misa regains bodily autonomy and control through becoming a second Kira, but also how using violence could be a traumatic response to wanting to protect and defend herself so delving more into the psychological aspect of why someone would rely on the Death Note!

[@BlackAutMedia]

@@DrSophieDarlingReacts That's one of the main reasons I love the idea of Misa and discussing her as a character (even if she's not well-executed thus far) because women don't have shinigami to save them from gendered violence. To understand Misa as a death note user you have to interrogate what kind of world drove her to disproportionately target violent people in the first place as they mentioned in an earlier episode. You have to interrogate why a famous woman who by all accounts should be dead because of a stalker and witnessed her parents murdered feels like her life is expendable and why she has such a simplistic idea that there is SOMEONE out there delivering the justice and security she never received. Misa is a woman who faces violence that many women faces and unlike the others she Asking those questions doesn't mean that Misa is entirely innocent or that we're excusing the harm she does. It bugs me when people just pathologize Misa as a "crazy" or apply the way people talk about real women by demanding they be perfect victims to be deserving of any examination of the root issues. I feel you could make the same case about Light because I've never once seen the conflict of "is killing criminals justice" because any understanding of sociology and prison abolition would make it obvious why Light isn't doing anything beneficial. It's way more interesting to me than the millionth "is Light or L Right" when it's obvious both of them are extremely harmful in many similar ways.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

@@BlackAutMedia Absolutely!! The same people that condemn Misa are also the same that praise Light as doing something righteous which really just feels rooted in a hatred of Misa because she is a woman rather than her actions. Yes - we both agree that Misa is FAR from innocent but her actions at least have further justification than Light. She's a woman in a world that has been targeted on multiple occasions by violent men. She has witnessed the murder of her parents and was fortunate to survive. She was nearly murdered by a fan that was obsessed with her based on her modelling pictures. Her need to target violent criminals is a need to control the world around her and to feel somewhat safer in it but to also provide a safer environment for others too. She has a direct reason for wanting to use the Death Note to better society. She is a victim of violence and as someone deeply traumatised she is using whatever power she has at her disposal to protect herself and others where she can, even going as far as to want to support Kira who she sees as someone to idolise because, again, he had a direct hand in granting her justice. Misa is so very complicated that it pains me to see people just bash her or presume that the only reason I like her character and dismiss Light is because she's a woman. Whereas, it's more that I can sympathise and understand where Misa is coming from and her desire to find power and control in a disempowering world that targets women on a routine basis. Whereas Light has had an extremely privileged upbringing and has never experienced anything to the extent that Misa has. His desire to kill is part of his God Complex rather than feeling disempowered or at a disadvantage. As you said - people want a perfect victim but victimhood is not perfect. It's a complicated psychological process and the way that Misa clings onto Light as a protective figure could be due to that trauma and need to feel safe because she's never really had that outside of relying on herself. She's a deeply troubled young woman which I find fascinating especially as a woman myself who has been subjected to harassment and parasocial behaviour as a content creator - I can relate to her need and want to feel safe at any cost.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

@@BlackAutMedia _"To understand Misa as a death note user you have to interrogate what kind of world drove her to disproportionately target violent people in the first place as they mentioned in an earlier episode."_ I may have missed this, I thought Misa's victims were TV hosts and police officers in order to get Kira's attention.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

@@DrSophieDarlingReacts _"Yes - we both agree that Misa is FAR from innocent but her actions at least have further justification than Light."_ Sorry to be blunt but no, they do not since "justification" is a myth we humans perpetuate.

[@AhmadSammy]

I wonder why you see Misa as such an innocent girl. She kills people without a second thought if it will get her closer to Light/Kira. I personally find that terrifying.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Never said she was innocent - she's as messed up as Light is. I find some degree of sympathy for her due to everything she's experienced and the psychological trauma that inflicts on an individual. I can find her fascinating without agreeing with everything she does much in the same way I can find Light interesting but also think he's horrible.

[@RoninTheJonin]

She's naive that's for sure

[@adamhurd1560]

​@@DrSophieDarlingReacts She's not innocent and in some ways she's worse than Light because she doesn't have the same god complex morality and is willing to kill just to please Light/Kira. She is, however, a victim where Light isn't. She's a victim of a lot of pain and sorrow, she's a victim of the man who killed her parents, the man who tried to kill her, a victim of Light's abuse and ultimately a victim of the Death Note too. Light might have stricter morals but he's not a victim, he's willing in all of this, he's not had to deal with any real hardships. It's much easier to find some level of sympathy for Misa, given everything she's gone through, than it is Light.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

@@adamhurd1560 I never said she was innocent? I agree with you 😅😂

[@adamhurd1560]

@@DrSophieDarlingReacts ah sorry, I was just following up on what you'd said.

[@vierv3798]

girl you look different when not using eye shadow 😊

[@May3529]

Just call it out as it is girl ✊ there for sure are misogynistic bits and quotes in anime, so also in this one. If anyone is annoyed by you saying that, then that's just sad tbh 😅

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

What was most evident was the amount of women agreeing with me whilst most men were shouting at me for being wrong and that it's not misogynistic to see your partner as merely a wife and mother rather than a person with their own identity 🙈

[@May3529]

@DrSophieDarlingReacts well, what can I say, not surprised but disappointed? 😅

[@limontree476]

There's a reason the first big ship my best friend had after coming out was Light x L....

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

I absolutely see it!

[@InocencioPatronJr]

killing all taskforce, dad excluded i think, Light maybe twisted but not a fool i think...

[@kaushiksunapu5657]

L doesn't give a damn about Light lol, him being his first friend is the biggest lie ever. He too cares only about his ego and desire to engage in a game of sorts.

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Well I fell for it... Just seemed like a very genuine moment between the two of them especially with the music in the background which seems to be a motif for emotional instances!

[@jarvisfowlkes3200]

People take what L say to heart but it's not true it's just a lie abd L does enjoy being alone

[@mabithebard]

I wish I could say "the writing isn't misogynistic it's just portraying misogyny" but if you look at some of the author's other works such as Bakuman or Platinum End it's pretty clear that he is very misogynistic AND homophobic. Like some scenes from those series are clearly the author using his characters to express his own thoughts and values and it's PAINFUL shit to read😭 the homophobic rant scene in Platinum End is ironically hilarious tho, it's so stupid

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Oh yikes 🙈 that's very uncomfortable!

[@shua8087]

True. I love Bakuman but the way it treats the women in there is painful to read/watch. I had to make myself forget the comments it has about women to continue enjoying the show.

[@allisongao6791]

Even as a teenager, this is hard to watch lol.that barely work if he is her boss lol

[@johnpaullogan1365]

as far as light's reaction to rem agreeing. he sees himself as a god. he's been struggling and competing with l. whether they are friends or not he sees him like a fated rival, the devil to his god. there are feelings of not likely him doing it himself but halso more importantly he has built up this battle between the two of them to epic proportions. the stuff of legends. but the ending is just. hey rem can you right this games name for me? it is anticlimactic and not a fitting end to his "devil"

[@Ergoperidot]

Ray’s language absolutely was misogynistic lmao eff the haters bruh 💀

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

Why do so many confuse sexism with misogyny? Raye having a warped view of how women 'work' does not automatically mean he dislikes women. It's not like a woman, though these may not be great examples here, complaining about "soy boys" or claiming stay-at-home-dads never pan out is a misandrist.

[@Ergoperidot]

@ Yeah I’m sure you have a trustworthy and unbiased perspective on this, mansplainer2099. I’m sorry to say, but you are incorrect. Misogyny can be expressed without any negative intent. It all has to do with supporting or expressing patriarchal attitudes, whether intentionally or not. Read some bell hooks or something

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

@@Ergoperidot _"Yeah I’m sure you have a trustworthy and unbiased perspective on this, mansplainer2099."_ It has nothing to do with trust or bias. _"I’m sorry to say, but you are incorrect. Misogyny can be expressed without any negative intent."_ It has nothing do with Raye's intent. He's being sexist (and stupid) by expecting Naomi to just assume a role and live it, Stepford Wives style, and things like her career and other goals will just fade away from her consciousness, but that in itself is not misogyny or proof of misogyny. If the roles were reversed, e.g. Naomi expecting Raye to just make a lot of money and give her children and those "juvenile" goals he's no longer pursuing, e.g. a certain rank in the FBI, will no longer matter to him, would be kind of sexist ("If you were a real man you wouldn't waste blabla with blabla!" and "Miss it? Oh no, you know how men are.") but not misandry or proof of misandry. _"It all has to do with supporting or expressing patriarchal attitudes, whether intentionally or not. Read some bell hooks or something"_ Sexism and misogyny overlap in many ways, maybe even in most ways, but they are not one and the same just like sexism and misandry are not one and the same. Patriarchy can't change that fact nor can matriarchy.

[@Ergoperidot]

@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps I’m gonna need some sources for your definitions. We don’t live in any form of matriarchy so there’s no reason to even bring that up. To support the sexist attitudes of society is inherently to support patriarchy and is thusly misogynistic. Find me a feminist who disagrees with what I’ve said and maybe I’ll consider it.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

@@Ergoperidot _"I’m gonna need some sources for your definitions."_ Word of advice; Never get too hung up on "official" definitions. The "official" definition for the Sun and stars used to involve "They orbit the Earth." _"We don’t live in any form of matriarchy so there’s no reason to even bring that up."_ Wrong. What difference does it make what you or anyone currently live in? Sexism is discriminating based on gender, misogyny is disliking women, just like the Sun and stars were what they were. How we humans behave affect a lot of things but other things just are what they are. _"To support the sexist attitudes of society is inherently to support patriarchy and is thusly misogynistic."_ Okay, now you're just lumping literally everyone on the planet into a box and labeling that box "society" and then saying "That box has sexist attitudes!" and then saying "Supporting the specific attitudes of that box, yes, that box in particular, is inherently to support patriarchy (because ALL sexism is perpetrated against women) and is thusly misogynistic because Patriarchy Is Misogynistic." That's verging on circular logic. You're not wrong that the civilizations on this planet more or less fit the term patriarchy and that there's a lot of misogyny inherent in that. But Raye Penber is not a misogynist jerk behind a podium (intentionally or unintentionally) talking a crowd into not deviating from global attitudes on the roles of women, he's just a sexist jerk conversing with his fiancé. _"Find me a feminist who disagrees with what I’ve said and maybe I’ll consider it."_ Okay, that's just hedging yourself from even acknowledging facts without a committee from your camp lawyering you on where the camp's at on issues like this.

[@yusrawaleed9772]

Death note writing is definitely misogynist, there isn't any good female characters, only Naomi was a strong lady character but even she was sacrificed to the plot but i think everyone underestimate Misa, she 'acts' that dumb, submissive girl when even so far she has never been controlled by Light and has done whatever she wants even if Light ask her not to.

[@enurtsold3296]

Still think you're not giving Misa Misa enough credit - she may use her feminine wiles to outlive Light! Merry Xmas to all, and to all a good night! 🤣 11:20 Because it'd be too much of a coincidence that the 2nd Kira changes direction at the same time that Light has met a new little friend 😘 15:00 IIRC, it's like if you write that the person to die by crashing a plane (i.e. the person is a pilot), that could cause the deaths of the passengers too - so it's not allowed. But then again, if the Death Note automatically causes the pilot's death as a heart attack, if that happens while flying the plane, won't that cause the passengers to die anyway? 🤔 23:40 Light is taken aback because Shinigami don't do anything to aid humans (from what he knows from Ryuk), but here Rem is wholeheartedly doing what Misa asks 🤭 27:30 Ya want L to meet Misa Misa, and they'll get along well and sweet?! ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL omg I'm choking on tears 😂

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

_"IIRC, it's like if you write that the person to die by crashing a plane (i.e. the person is a pilot), that could cause the deaths of the passengers too - so it's not allowed. But then again, if the Death Note automatically causes the pilot's death as a heart attack, if that happens while flying the plane, won't that cause the passengers to die anyway?"_ If there's no co-pilot or someone else onboard that can fly, yes, but the Death Notes (and the one(s) who created them) aren't interested in keeping anyone alive, it's just that someone wanted rules for the Shinigami. _"Light is taken aback because Shinigami don't do anything to aid humans (from what he knows from Ryuk), but here Rem is wholeheartedly doing what Misa asks"_ IIRC Light has just learned about Gelus at this point.

[@amazonrocks7349]

Merry Christmas :)

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

Merry Christmas lovely!!

[@kaushiksunapu5657]

Merry Christmas yall

[@DrSophieDarlingReacts]

@kaushiksunapu5657 MERRY CHRISTMAS!!