Lacan on Perversion (2/3) : Derek Hook interviews Meera Lee : The Law and Perversion

[@Retrogamer71]

Loving the intimacy of the moments of the analysis taking place.

[@gonzogil123]

To be honest there is a modality of systematicity to these types of lectures. One does not get the impression that the people delivering the lecture have a good command of the material: imo.

[@gonzogil123]

Yeah, she is trying to talk about the 3rd Oedipal phase & the different answers that are given to it.

[@gonzogil123]

A modality of self-reflexivity/mental computation that enables the registration/capitonnage of the output Autre of the fantasy upon which the operation of "=" may take place: identificatory precipitation. The necessary Other to tell us about itself as the witness Other that guarantees the fantasmatic certainty given the infinitesimally small distance between what is posed and pressuposed .

[@gonzogil123]

Yeah, the law. I think that what she says has some validity because the mental structuring alienation-separation (variation) within perversión (as in every other structure) is very much subjective. The modality of answer to mortality is necessarily fantasmatic (form w/o determinations)the pervert will engage in a foundational modality of identification such that it will not be all shareable. It is an identificatory relation/answer to mortality that is highly fantasmatic and hence empty: not informed by anything else but it's command to follow it/identify with it: it's a foundational axiom hence an S1 type organizing principle.

[@gonzogil123]

Yes, a child is being beaten. Very much weird-not knowing. From object cause to "a child is being beaten" & why does not one get it and all that. The crucial aspect of "there to witness" and it's crucial role.

[@NeilKelly_is_angryexpat]

Bitten, not beaten.

[@gonzogil123]

@@NeilKelly_is_angryexpat Yes, they are that much into them.