Captain Marvel: The Real, Genuine Outrage

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For some reason, KZbin was seemingly taken over in late 2018/early 2019 by discourse surrounding Brie Larson and the film she starred in - Captain Marvel - due to apparently damning political controversy. Many people still don't really know what all the fuss was about. Jack Saint decides to delve into the heart of this SJW Outrage.
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[@riccardoolivieri1159]

Ohh boy, are you in for a disappointment

[@Ma_ksi]

Hi

[@terratorment2940]

Why do you look like Shaun and Jen

[@swanpride]

Don't call those people fans. They aren't fans. They are Anti-SJW clickbait creator. They don't care about the MCU, they just care about spreading their hatred.

[@TuesdaysArt]

Unless you also said the population is 50% males, I don't automatically see erasure. Maybe the population is also 40% male and 10% enbie, or 48% male and 2% enbie.

[@ethanrichmond3992]

These people misinterpreting friendship as hatred, it's almost like they don't have frien- ....oh.

[@grouchygoat]

the volume in this bus is outrageous

[@grouchygoat]

this is better than every meme ive seen in 2020 which is saying alot

[@theomegajuice8660]

Honestly, the last bits of this video of these guys deconstructing people who are clearly just having fun and joking around just made me really sad.

[@tutumazibuko2510]

@@theomegajuice8660 ah yes I'm sure they're just having fun

[@DriscolDevil]

@@theomegajuice8660 Finding out that she doesn't really want to dominate men made me sad. Now I understand why she won't return my letters....

[@baneoftechnology]

[sees skull] [double-checks channel]

[@rowan-priince1860]

Jack shaun? Shaun saint?

[@dustind4694]

...Really glad I'm not the only one. I mean, they have very distinct voices, but it still got me. Stupid brain.

[@MarsCBG]

I saw the skull with the ponytail and just thought shaun was doing something on the new She-Ra tbh

[@wadespencer3623]

Why is it always SKULLS with you people!?

[@MarrilMcBlazen]

@@wadespencer3623 Maybe he wanted to put his new skull-drawing skills to practice?

[@Jasminedesi16]

The hilarious thing is that so many male marvel actors talk about politics/social justice all the time and no one complains. Brie says it once and they loose their minds.

[@RemixedVoice]

Yep, all the men Marvel actors are equally as progressive as Brie; it's almost like people hate on her because she's a progressive woman. 😎

[@Panic_Pickle]

RemixedVoice or because she’s unable to take any criticism of her character. Her abrasive lack of self-confidence in interviews with fellow Marvel cast members, false claims about doing all her own stunts, etc. give people negative opinions of her which then leads to them (unjustly) jumping to negative presumptions on everything they say. Kind of like how people will dig into any aspect of Trump even if it’s an unfounded criticism, which in turn leads to the genuine criticism being dismissed by Trump supporters because the baseless criticism get’s exposed as baseless and undermines the believability of all criticism. Edit: having said this, there is of course plenty of unfounded criticism of her that is rather absurd.

[@Nazhussain07]

@@Panic_Pickle I think you're reading too much in to this dude. Easy to be an armchair expert complaining about people you barely know and only really getting a very small glimpse in to their lives. Things are often taken out of context, misatributed to her, or people selectively edit things to make her look awful. Maybe at the very most she can come across a little abrasive but I sometimes feel like she might joke or be sarcastic and it doesn't always land, but I don't think it makes her a bad person, just human. I think if you check out her Instagram videos, you get a much better glimpse in to the kind of person she is.

[@entertain7us148]

you know why 😳

[@Kyran1996]

Just look at Mark Ruffalo. He's regularly been outspoken about his progressive views and even backed Bernie Sanders (both times). Where's the outrage about him? It's such a ridiculous double-standard.

[@OctopusGrift]

It's funny that Mr Gamer was upset by Brie Larson complaining about how there is a disconnect between critics and general audiences given how often gamers complain about critics not representing the audience.

[@yusukeelric]

There is a disconnect. Not the one she believes in

[@rhaeven]

They don't care about a disconnect between critics and general audiences, they care about a disconnect between critics and themselves.

[@charlottemartyr]

“Hire the best person for the job, not just a woman” Like.... because the best person for the job couldn’t possibly come out of a group that makes up 50% of the population. Ever. Just getting one must’ve been a mistake because it just can’t happen.

[@grouchygoat]

lol its like he thinks heros have job interviews.

[@binarycat1237]

Yeah, I don't know how they would up saying that in that context. That argument is supposed to an argument against hiring quotas, and it makes sense (to the point of being an actual argument, because the bar is basically on the floor at this point) there. I wonder if it got repeated enough that they forgot why they were saying it.

[@no_peace]

They seem to think that goes without saying. They also hate identity politics

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I hear idiots Screaming Victimhood

[@genieglasslamp5028]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 Yea conservatives justice doing that.

[@anastasiaa.4575]

I just find it funny that Chris Evans is quite liberal, I guess is the word, especially on his Twitter and yet.....never see any of the fans crying about it. These big ass dramas are pretty much always aimed towards women or people of color. Incheresting 🤔

[@kyro8559]

hmmm...interesting. i can’t see why this would occur, it’s a mystery to me

[@OfAngelsAndAnarchist]

That’s not true... but I can tell you have a certain viewpoint which probably won’t be changed haha

[@Afro21Ninja]

@@OfAngelsAndAnarchist That's not true... but I can tell you have a certain viewpoint which probably won't be changed. ha. ha.

[@karenaponte6628]

Spooky Boyy wait how is it not true ?

[@anastasiaa.4575]

@@OfAngelsAndAnarchist I mean you can say it's not true until the cows come home but compare and contrast bro. There is still an imbalance. But I can tell you've got your head in the sand so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@oddtail_tiger]

Did that gamer guy... unironically use the term "SJWs" and, in the very same sentence, accused people of attaching labels to others instead of being interested in what they have to say? ...alrighty then.

[@riley8385]

Yeah, they lack any kind of self awareness.

[@etherealceleste]

maybe actually watch the video instead of taking someone else's word for it?

[@cutefriend2828]

@@etherealceleste it's a direct quote on video lol

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

No

[@WeatherInOrlando]

"Unlike you snowflakes, I'm not so easily triggered" 24:30 "WHY WOMAN NO SMILE RIGHT??"

[@memany712]

There were a lot of women in Jeremy's reaction video to this video that " male Feminists are traitors and they don't need men to speak for themselves and Jack is a white knight " .

[@kaylemathewcomendador7614]

That smiling thing started off as a joke from a troll from Twitter, but evolved into a serious point for the "anti-Capt. Marvel" people for some reason.

[@dankerbell]

but they admit she smiles in the trailer and in the actual movie she smiles a lot so whyyyy

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

me many ok, how?

[@antihinduismisbased]

Sounds like an unreleased Bob Marley song. "NO WOMAN, NO SMILE."

[@pacman5698]

Coming from the future. Jeremy from Quartering who said Brie Larson is a "garbage human" ended up defending an apologist for Weinstein who said his victims were "adults who knew what they were getting into" and Birds of Prey is getting a good amount of crap from the same circle and Robbie is getting the same clickbait attacks. Still kind of makes me wonder how this group thinks they're the rebellious crowd somehow going against the system and being the biggest warriors for the betterment of our art. This whole circle has always been essentially the mentality of keeping your treehouse boys only and not allowing any of those icky girls who have cooties in it.

[@no_peace]

BOYS ONLY! GIRLS ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT IDENTITY POLITICS!!

[@zeroeleven6551]

If it wasn't for this God damn pandemic I would have gone to see Birds of Prey multiple times just to spite these fuckwits. They're genuinely upset that women are in modern popular media and try to disguise it with "muh free speech" "identity politics" "SJWsssssss"

[@Elvalley]

@@zeroeleven6551 I watched Birds of Prey, found it a "one watch thing". But I would watch it again just to make those guys angry(er)... If I had the energy to watch anything other than KZbin videos.

[@drpepperman2765]

@@zeroeleven6551 It's a really fun action flick, you should give it a watch. Ewan McGregor is amazing as Black Mask, the comedy is really well done, and the action is spectacular. My only complaint is that it shouldn't have been called Birds of Prey, as it's a lot more of a Harley Quin movie, but other than that it nailed everything it was trying to do. Easily in the top 3 best DCEU movies (I'd still say WW is better, undecided whether I like this or Aquaman better)

[@maeve615]

@@drpepperman2765 I agree sticking "Birds of Prey" in the tittle was somewhat unessisary. The movie was irreverent to a lot of the cliches of 'superhero' movies, and the lampshading they executed was hilarious (like when Huntress jabs Montoya for 'sounding like a cop from a bad 80's tv show'). Or the 'sandwhich scene' that the rage-monkies were fliping their shit over, my wife and I were laughing our asses off because we had moments like that while driving cross country. And I absolutely loved that the final showdown with BM went 'I stole your ring' instead of dusting knuckles or sharpshooter hostage save. The whole thing did a good job of having the whimsy of a Harley comic.

[@Wuropl]

The best thing about the fabricated Captain Marvel drama was that it helped me to filter crappy nerd channels and find actually good ones.

[@gallifreyanknight1355]

Same here, tbh

[@DastardlyScapegoat]

Didn't think bout that, thanks for the idea lad

[@shingshongshamalama]

It was fucking amazing just how many youtube channels I saw plastering "ZOMG BRIE LARSON SAID THIS QUOTE SHE NEVER SAID!!!"

[@kagespider2627]

True Some people I thought wouldn't go that route did, sad

[@gilon-xx1es]

Dear God I wish KZbin had a blacklist feature.

[@disneybunny45]

I don't understand why so many people say that celebrities shouldn't be vocal about their political opinions. They have the exact same right as you do.

[@MissAshley42]

They say it because they really don't believe that. They will not bat an eye at any celebrity whose opinions align with their own.

[@oof-rr5nf]

@@riley8385 _there it is!_

[@alonsoarana5307]

@@MissAshley42 they are fine with pricks like Clint Eastwood and James Woods but God forbid Brie Larson and Chris Evans open their mouths politically even though you could barely catalogue them as leftists, just libs but anything slightly to the right of them will make them lose their shit

[@francocarrizosparosvich4638]

They really mean "don't say anything that can challenge my narrow minded world view. Leave my toys alone"

[@haydengarinduchesne9269]

Best video ever 😂🤣😂🤣😂😭🤣🤣 if you give em enough rope I never seen something so pathetic oh wait 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 echo chamber city

[@ashthetic_art]

There's a certain irony to all of this - by dog-piling KZbin with all these videos from mostly straight white men talking about the same topic, repeating the same opinions, they ended up proving Brie Larson's original point about film criticism needing more diversity.

[@adrianccone]

Well said!

[@loregoblin3854]

not only that, but remember what was said about how a middle aged white dude critic might not always be the intended audience for every movie? and about how a middle aged white critic might judge a movie for not fitting his tastes well enough, even when it was never strictly intended to do so? I'm not saying that Captain Marvel wasn't meant for white guys, middle aged or otherwise... but I do think it's interesting to see how strict these white men's standards are for what makes a movie tailored to them... and how offended they get when these standards aren't 100% catered to by a specific film. and not only that, but they hate seeing a woman do shit that they'd totally accept from a man. do you know how fucking smug Tony Stark is?? he's a total asshole a good portion of the time, and somehow everyone around him loves him anyway, because he talks fast, sounds right, and says funny lines that are quippy and quotable. men must really love projecting themselves onto that. but they can't do that with Captain Marvel, because they've decided that they hate her, and that her "smugness" is leveled against men. so even a smirk that could just be self confidence, and is only smug if you read it that way, is totally offensive. as if women haven't been putting up with shit like this from male characters since forever. these guys are so thin skinned. I love how they talk about liberals being sensitive, and taking issue with every tiny thing, but then they're giant babies about shit like this. this is basically them finding out what a microaggression is, but in the stupidest context possible. because even if Brie Larson did hate men, and was cackling at all the male tears she'd caused... so what? oh, someone thinks your demographic is a little overrepresented in an industry? that's peanuts compared to the number of misogynistic male celebrities that there are. women wouldn't even have the energy to be mad at every individual one with this much specificity at once, holy fuck, like... these dudes could actually use more women who blatantly hate men, cuz right now they have so much time on their hands that, when they find just one, they hyperfocus until they're picking apart every interview she's ever been in, frame by frame, looking for ones where she blinked and it made her face look funny for a second. that's fucking weird you guys! quit being total weirdos!! didn't even mean for this to get so long, but tl;dr: yeah, these guys are babies.

[@darksteelgamma]

@@loregoblin3854 "and about how a middle aged white critic might judge a movie for not fitting his tastes well enough, even when it was never strictly intended to do so?" Okay, but this way of thinking is the same kind of thing the "Anita Sarkeesian is not a gamer" argument hinges on.

[@loregoblin3854]

not really though... the difference is that "gamer" is an ability that you cultivate, and "person of color" is an identity that you're born as. Anita Sarkeesian could call herself a gamer if she plays a lot of games and becomes skilled. heck, she could say it even if she wasn't skilled. a white middle aged man has no way of cultivating the history and making the connections he would need in order to find a movie personally relevant to his life, if it was made with black people in mind. that ship has sailed, and even if it hadn't, he's not exactly invited aboard. and what I mean by this isn't "never let middle aged white men say anything about a movie that was clearly made to be relevant to a different demographic" what I mean is, maybe his isn't the _most_ relevant opinion in the room. his opinions would take front and center in many other discussions... it's not like he's at a deficit.

[@darksteelgamma]

@@loregoblin3854 I'm not saying race=gamers, just that the argument in place has a bad formula to utilize in order invalidate an opponent's criticism. "X person isn't part of Y group, so Z argument isn't valid" is a bad way to counter the party in question because, by that logic, all the talk of Anita's criticisms can be invalidated by them saying that the games in question "aren't made for women". The logic can be inverted to work against the group you're vying for, and in that regard, would be somewhat self-defeating in that regard. Basically, if we state that based on an unchosen disposition of birth that someone's criticism is invalid, it opens to other racist/sexist points that can be utilized inversely.

[@kimberly6663]

The craziest part of this hate-mania is the overreactions to the cast interviews. Like, if your KZbin channel is centered around geek media then surely you should have noticed that these interviews are often stiff and awkward and the actors look like they want to die specifically because they're being hauled around to a million of them to answer the same insipid questions over and over again. This happens for every superhero movie. I barely watch them because I just don't feel like watching actors I like look dead-eyed at an overly bouncy interviewer and have to try to force out a funny response. Just let the lady make a bitchface in peace, I beg you.

[@haggisa]

Kimberly Amen. It’s the expectation, that she (or actresses in general) should always be smiley and cute and friendly and never ever look uncomfortable. And god forbid she doesn’t seem like she’s best friends with all of her co-stars. That must surely mean they all hate each-other and dislike her for not being a team player. It’s a gross cocktail of sexist expectations, projection and dislike of a woman speaking her mind.

[@Horatio787]

@@haggisa I'd say any time someone wants to criticize an actor they look for an interview of them where they're not smiling or look low energy. So many Half in The Bag reviews show actors being low energy in an interview as PROOF that they're an asshole who doesn't care about cinema. I don't think it's a sexist thing (necessarily), it's just insulated assholes on the internet who are trying to apply this angelic standard to any famous person. If an actor says they hated a recent movie, they're this controversial topic of the week. If a critic says they wish the director was dead no one cares.

[@haggisa]

TheHoratiosvetlana I definitely agree with you, that the “angel standard” (I like the term, by the way) impacts actors of all genders, and people simply love hunting for the slightest sign a movie star is acting bitchy, arrogant or unfriendly, but I do believe women are still being held to a higher standard in that regard. I don’t know, if you remember this, but when the “Twilight” movies were coming out, a lot of people made a huge stink about Kristen Stewart not smiling at movie premieres and being slightly awkward in interviews. Even a lovely co-host of a BBC Radio 1 film review show, Simon Mayo, who is otherwise a very nice, reasonable guy, got really irritated at her refusal to grin like a maniac and act super grateful during the premieres’ photo shoots. (Of course later on she got nearly crucified for breaking up with Robert Pattison and supposedly having an affair with a married, older director.) Meanwhile, her co-star, Pattison would bash the movies on regular basis, make fun of the storylines and Stephanie Meyer, and openly state how grateful he was the film franchise was over. As far as I know, he faced no backlash. Similar thing happened to Cara Delavigne during the “Suicide Squad” press tour and even Margot Robbie was critised multiple times for being supposedly “too friendly” with Will Smith (a married man), who was acting the exact same way towards her. So while actors and actresses alike face insane amounts of scrutiny, I do think the subconscious belief, that women are supposed to be and look pleasing, still takes its toll. It’s all the fault of traditional socialisation, which teaches us, that girls are naturally more emphathetic and in tune with other people’s emotions, therefore more is expected of them, when it comes to social interactions and politeness. Men still get more leeway in appearing stern, serious or stoic. But women? Nah. We either smile or get branded a bitch. Maybe I’m overacting a little bit, but this is how the situation reads to me.

[@Horatio787]

@@haggisa I tend to avoid drama political channels unless it's channels like Shaun and Jack Saint who can still hold their tempers when discussing people they hate, so I'll have to take your word on it. I will say that I'm kind of disgusted with the reaction culture that explodes every time some movie or show comes out that isn't universally beloved, so they start raking actors and directors over the coals with the hours of footage their interviews give them.

[@KookiesNolly]

I personally watch a lot of interviews with the MCU cast, and honestly, they are like one big family. They tease each other constantly and sometimes start fake drama/feuds for fun. It's like the whole Anthony Mackie/Tom Holland feud. They love each other but Anthony teases Tom like a little brother. Sometimes there's some rivalry between the Chrises too. Or when people complain about Tom Holland and Mark Ruffalo spoiling everything. There are also moments where RDJ kinda act like a jerk, kinda like Tony from Iron Man 1, but it just lasts 5 seconds and he starts laughing because he can't seriously be like that. It's like in that press tour when he said "the next time I'm not asked the first question, I'm leaving the press tour", it was a joke and everyone started laughing. He pretends to be an egomaniac for fun. In pretty much all the interviews he tries to get everyone included because interviewers tend to ignore some actors who played smaller roles and RDJ is basically the one bringing them into the conversation, he does that a lot with Pom Klementieff for instance. Bad interviewers can also make the actors look bad honestly. When you watch a couple videos of them, especially the ones they do themselves, you pretty quickly get that they are happy to be together and joke around all the time, maybe to make some of those interviews more bearable. Pretty much the only people who don"t get it are little children who have a harder time understanding their sense of humor. Grown-ups who take them at face value are just pretending to be dumb or have a personal vendetta like it's the case with Brie Larson.

[@ZILtoid1991]

I'm an artist with knowledge on anatomy and costume design, and Brie Larson not only has a bum, but that's also the only way they could make her costume comfortable to wear for more than a few minutes. Cosplayers often have a challenge with recreating extremely form-fitting costumes, especially around the breasts, but also often including the bum. Here's how they usually solve these problems: * Using a boobplate, but this is uncomfortable if you aren't flat. * Using multiple pieces of spandex (or even latex) to work around the shape of the breasts (and maybe the bum) somehow, but needs extreme precision work. * Vacuuming out the air from a latex suit, but this makes the wearing of the suit very painful. * Using shadows on the dye sublime printed suit to emulate the looks of a more form-fitting suit. I don't know if spray-on clothing ever was used for something similar or if it ever got mass-manufactured. Creating an extremely form-fitting bodysuit out of leather is near impossible, which is what Captain Marvel's superhero costume supposed to be. Leather - while looks so cool it worth the death of cows and other domestic animals, but not of exotic animals (please don't make clothing out of exotic animal skin or fur) - is a very rigid material, which makes it useful as a light-armor against scratching and light cuts (and even hits with minimal and lightweight reinforcement), but doesn't make a good form-fitting material. Also while you might find some more form-fitting gear among real-life special police forces, both men and women (and maybe even non-binary people) are forced to wear the same stuff, meaning you can see some heavily-armed policeman bum in action (but not the crotch in extreme detail due to special protective gear for that area).

[@riley8385]

"Vacuuming out the air from a latex suit, but this makes the wearing of the suit very painful." Damn, talk about dedication to your craft.

[@SpoopySquid]

@@riley8385 Michelle Pfeiffer did that for her role as Catwoman and could only be in costume for a few minutes at a time

[@MRuby-qb9bd]

@Django Fett Black Widow looks like she's wearing lycra. That's definitely not leather.

[@SteampunkFridgeRider]

@@MRuby-qb9bd yeah but the dudes complaining don't know that

[@Rolan7196]

Nothing demonstrates agility and flexibility better than taking the concept of tight jeans, applying it to the entire body, then making it even tighter.

[@isabellebarrett1318]

I love how angry they get over the "higher, further, faster" thing. Partly because it's is a nod to Kelly Sue Deconnick’s and David Lopez’s Captain Marvel Vol.1: Higher, Further, Faster, More. and honestly you'd think such ~avid~ Marvel fans would know that, but also because that title itself is a reference to The Right Stuff, an 80's film about fighter test pilots and America's early space program, Project Mercury so it's literally just Carol Danvers quoting a film to her friend not some personal declaration of superiority

[@Hippidippimahm]

☝🏻this

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

The mind truly boggles.

[@kseriousr]

This is basically Marvel's version of : 'To boldly go where no man has gone before.' Or, 'to infinity and beyond.'

[@theomegajuice8660]

And even if it wasn't a fun reference, it wouldn't be a factual statement of superiority. Fighter pilots (and the military in general) have arrogant banter and bravado as their main means of social interaction. I hope when these guys go to watch sports they don't bring a binder full of stats and figures for when the fans start chanting about how their team is the best...

[@StormMcBeth]

I did not know this. I'm gald I do now. Thanks for the info.

[@lilybatterham6050]

My faves are the ones who “expressed concern” about her acting ability when she’s the only one who’s /won/ an Oscar.

[@Emel_unlegit]

Heh /kek/

[@Zanyotaku]

comic nerd men: why do people want comics to be pOLiTiCaL????? Comics: captain america was created in direct opposition to nazi facism, x-men was always about racism and prejudice and in modern days homophobia and marginalized groups, if you wanna expand out into sci fi and beyond star-trek had the first interracial kiss on camera, celebrated racial diversity and idealized a culture where toxic norms were no more, and it was women who originally made star-trek popular Geek spaces have always been for marginalized, for minorities, for women, and they have always been political. To pretend otherwise is... frustratingly dense.

[@theviewer6889]

Literally, X-men 2 had a scene that was a clear allegory for coming out as LGBT. Like, "Have you tried not being a mutant?" was an actual line said by one of the kid's parents.

[@rickardkaufman3988]

@@theviewer6889 And Robert Kelly were modeled after anti- LGBTQ politicians like Brownback and Pence.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

What f do you mean Comic nerd men?? R you saying women have never been a part of nerd Culture?? That's just Ignorant & harmful, this is why I hate politcal Dribble nowadays it's infecting everthing To our society to our Entertainment it's disgusting the people want their entertainment back.

[@ghosttraintittiebeaan4879]

Elongated man Forever wth r u talking about the person literally said how women and minorities have *always* been a part of nerd culture. But you, you've been posting comments on this video for 10+ months and all of them are fucking insane. What are you doing with your life? Why are you screaming into a void? What happened to you that you feel like obnoxiously arguing with people you will never see again is how you choose to spend your time all day? I dont care how old you are, you sound like a man-child. Like someone who thinks their hot shit but really has nothing. Your time in this world is over, if the future is too much for you, stand aside; or get crushed.

[@genieglasslamp5028]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 Entertainment has literally always been political.

[@Jess-br8xe]

It sure sounds like they believe white and male are the default state of humanity and love playing the victim when change to that dynamic is even suggested. Personally, I thought the movie was made for kids intro to Marvel and little girls. The girl power stuff was just over the top, and the movie wasn't as heavy as other Marvel films, but I imagined that was so that young girls could still see the movie and feel great about it. :3 I thought it was going to be a good intro film for young girls that don't like barbies and stuff that they might have anxieties about. --- Offnote: I really like that she didn't smile a lot because it kind of goes against the phrase "you should smile more" that's given to women all the time. It's just another way that female directors can make things tailored to females because of their life experiences mixing into the movie. I love it.

[@Clueman778]

Reactionaries: If YoU wOmEn wAnNa Be In MoViEs So BaD tHeN jUsT mAkE yOuR oWn Women: ~makes them~ Reactionaries: NO NOT LIKE THAT I MEANT DO IT OVER THERE AAAAAAAAAAA

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Lies lies & more lies.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Dude people love alita men did It got good Likings stop Treating women like they are persecuted.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

You act likes it's the 1950's ??!! Seriously you people.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Why cause I don't like weirdass movies like Captain marvel.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I'm a troll so you shouldn't worry about me worry about my deadly opinions.

[@valenfr01]

"I'm not even a butt guy but..." oh good to know, it makes your opinion about this woman's butt so much more significant.

[@pepi7404]

I'm glad he clarified that, I wouldn't want to hear *biased* opinions about Brie Larsons butt.

[@haggisa]

Pe pi He truly is a hero we don’t deserve, to bless us with his desperately needed views on an actress’ ass. How else can I decide, if “Captain Marvel” is worth seeing, if not by listening to an angry neckbeard objectify someone for views?

[@____uncompetative]

No he's a boob.

[@kinokochan]

I actually convulsed in disgust when he said that. MAYBE the character of Captain Marvel in film doesn't actually exist solely so that you can look at her body and evaluate it.

[@barkwhoop8052]

I wasn't exactly shocked to hear that the quartering self-identifies as a titty baby

[@themusicaljunkie37]

Yeah, conservatives don't care what liberal Hollywood says.. Celebrity: Happy Holidays. (Uploads a 45 minutes about Hollywood's war against Christmas)

[@paulinabringas98]

Something I love is when a dude bro goes "Capitan Marvel was so presumptuous" "she's so cocky and egotistical" like... it sure seems you loved that in Tony Stark

[@TaliaIGhul]

Big difference, Tony's character evolved from that in his first movie. Captain Marvel has been in two movies and she's still arrogant and egotistical. Character Development, look it up.

[@paulinabringas98]

@@TaliaIGhul Tony's character has had 10 years and several movies, Capitan Marvel hasn't. And regardless people loved that of him for as long as it lasted. "Billionaire, Playboy, philanthropist" is one of his most iconic lines and he said it in Avengers, his 3 movie. Also I know I'm the one who didn't refute it on my first comment but I don't feel she's egotistical, she's confident because she knows she's powerful and that's an indisputable fact.

[@TaliaIGhul]

@@paulinabringas98 Yeah, except Tony Stark going from arrogant war profiteer to a man who wants to change the world happened in one movie, not ten years. One movie. He went from being a guy who thought the one with the biggest stick wins mentality to after being kidnapped to see what his war profiteering has done due to his weapons falling into the wrong hands and he dedicated his life to cleaning his mess. Captain Marvel didn't have any progression at all and unlike Tony, Captain Marvel didn't evolve...and she had been active for two decades between Captain Marvel and Endgame and she was still the egotistical OP woman she was in the first movie. Hell, Kara Danvers/Supergirl from The CW series Supergirl had a better character development in the first few episodes of it's first season.

[@servoaugusta513]

Tony's arrogance has always been a problem. Even when he becomes a hero. His arrogance is what leads him to create Ultron. He knows what's best. His arrogance would turn almost lead to the world getting the world destroyed.

[@paulinabringas98]

@@TaliaIGhul yes but Capitan Marvel wasn't knowingly doing anything wrong, and as soon as she realizes it she changes her actions. Her arch is more about freeing herself from other's rules, her confidence isn't a character flaw, but an earned trait, just like Tony's wit.

[@williamkennedy7846]

I really love how they change their argument constantly. When a movie stars a minority as lead and doesn't do well, it's because no one likes SJW films. When it does well, that's because only SJWs watched it, etc.

[@PapaSmurf11182nd]

William Kennedy LMAO Yeah it's something like that. If it tanks - no one liked it. If it succeeds - it has to be some sort of scheme.

[@carbootstudios2459]

ironic coming from you

[@1000aaronaaronaaron]

@@carbootstudios2459 got em

[@carbootstudios2459]

Aaron Rainbolt Got who?

[@JohnDoe-vw4zf]

Said who?

[@marknyman1939]

I like how these types of guys like the Quartering and Geeks and Gamers are so triggered by the most basic and surface level "feminism."

[@memany712]

And women in their subscribers too . There were a lot of women in Jeremy's reaction video to this video that " male Feminists are traitors and they don't need men to speak for themselves and Jack is a white knight " .

[@haggisa]

Brie Larson: works in the industry for 20 years. Wins an Oscar, a Golden Globe, a BAFTA and 57 other awards. Does her work on the set of “Captain Marvel.” Mr. I Wear Baseball Hats To Hide My Lobotomy Scars: You’ve just walked into this movie, you’ve done nothing to earn this. Poor Mr. Gamer. He’s the type of guy, who’d say Maria Sklodowska-Curie only won two Nobel prizes because of her husband. Or her father. Or all the brave, truly hard working, brilliant men, who came before her. Because something something female privilege. He sounds like someone anthropomorphised GamerGate into a singular, cringetastic, angry little boy.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

"Those damn uppity women and minorities are so ungrateful for everything we've done for them" is a super common attitude among reactionary bigots.

[@haggisa]

Dorian sapiens And white male geeks seem to truly view comic book movies and video games as something that belongs solely to them and no-one outside their group should dare to infringe on their Holy Land unless they do so with their heads bowed and knees touching the ground. They’re like those tour guides in St. Peter’s Cathedral, who tell women they can enter, but they have to cover their arms and legs first, otherwise they’re disrespecting their sacred place of worship.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

@@haggisa You're right, it really does have a religious cast to it, and it's hard to tell whether that's because the influences of religion are so pervasive that some seeped into their misogyny; or whether misogyny and exclusion in general are so pervasive that they're fundamental to most religions. I suppose that's why anarchism seeks to abolish _all_ harmful hierarchies.

[@haggisa]

Dorian sapiens It can be both things. :) It’s a vicious circle. Misogyny feeds into religion, which feeds the misogyny, which seeps into everything else, including the Holy Cult of Geek Media. Messiahs and priests can only be male. Women can be nuns, as long as they stay humbled behind the walls of the convent and don’t smart off too much about how the Cult treats them. Can someone please pass me the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

[@ChrisMaxfieldActs]

@@terron7840 Chris Evans has stunt doubles, too. They all do. Some do more stunts than others, but it's unclear why you attack Larson for this very common practice.

[@IwaHin]

I always forget how annoying it is to hear a sweaty man tell me what women can or can't say...and then the quartering starts talking.

[@rovena996]

I tried watching his videos. I can't do it. Not just bc of the content but bc of his voice. Just an icky person all around.

[@isaacwoodman4289]

His name is "The QuarterPounder"

[@supertaoman12]

He always sounds like he's on the edge of a violent tantrum, as if he's permanently gritting his teeth.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Remember when he said She-Ra is bad because she's not fuckable even though she's a teenager?

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww When everyone was bitching about how unfeminine she was and unattractive I doubt it was really just jokes. Quartering seems and looks like a creepy enough guy. But keep defending pedos

[@52flyingbicycles]

If Brie Larson had chanted “Trump Trump Trump!” when asked about her political views they would have whistled a completely different tune

[@colinclaytor958]

Why is this so accurate?

[@corncake4677]

They would want brie to be their based redpilled trad housewife

[@tgs7515]

And when people called her out for being a Trump supporter those same people would be making 30 min long videos about how “the left are actually the ones who hate women”

[@Lea-is-sleeping]

Nah, they would have said she dirtied Trump

[@Coolhandkelpy]

The worst thing about Mr. Gamer is how be says “women”.

[@8insects]

Bailey DeVoe "wahmen" god its so cringe

[@squidcultist0022]

Imagine actually saying wahmen unironically

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

And min

[@Lulu_Lime]

@@squidcultist0022 Even saying it ironically is still pretty cringe.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

You people really r Morons huh??

[@annalunelli13]

"She won't stop with her comments" said the man who made over 100 videos bashing her in a span of one year.............

[@moustik31]

he is baffled she is ignoring them. mindboggling. how dare she not comply with demands from Marvel fans?

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Jeremy doesn't care he is too good for her ass.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Hey Jeremy can do whatever the hell he wants why do you care do you even watch his videos??!.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Whatever it doesn't mean a thing Nobody likes Captain marvel her movie was bland Af and uninspiring.

[@phoney2627]

"FEMINSTS GET TRIGGERED OVER EVERYTHING" said the guy who get's immediaetly triggered over the slightest mention feminism Same energy

[@CoryMck]

Telling people to be "appreciative" isn't a counter argument, it's a deflection. He wants us to say "thank you massa we appreciate your crumbs, well shuck and jive fa ya". That's such a vile and insulting argument to make.

[@rs-op8bb]

Them: cant yall take a joke Bri: makes a joke Them: OHHHH HO HO! WELL ACTUALLY BRI!!!!

[@fourcatsandagarden]

That is always the way "you snowflakes with your need for safe spaces just learn to take a joke!!!" *crumbles to dust when called out* Edit: I was down here looking during the skillshare part but the video proper literally opened with that exact thing I cant even

[@AntsanParcher]

@@fourcatsandagarden r/The_Donald/ actually has a rule that you have to be a Trump supporter to post there. They've got literal safe spaces with rules stating that they are safe spaces. And in those safe spaces they complain that people want safe spaces.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

r s and they say we are the ones who are triggered easily

[@zinielx]

only pipi can make joke , no pipi no joke

[@ryanporter4689]

Jack Saint is just spot on here people getting mad at Brie Larson and her activism as well as the captain marvel film itself. YOUR NO BETTER THAN SJWS GETTING TRIGGERED FOR STUPID SHIT! I have autism and even I find people triggered by identity politics, SJWs and feminism or whatever just retarded XD

[@ghostfrequencies]

nobody: gamer man: there's only two genders--talented men, and women i don't know why they're acting surprised that captain marvel is "woke", if they were real fans who'd read the comics it seems like they'd understand it's a huge part of her character

[@riley8385]

Some have read them, and they don't like that either. They whine about "muh sozial juztiss" like they've never read a comic before. Some of the really old comics had messages so on the nose... if you were to put something at that level on modern ones... Oof, they would drown with their own tears.

[@felman87]

Hell, "woke" has pretty much been Marvel's M.O. since...well, forever. Fantastic Four dealt with family dynamics instead of just keeping a superhero and their alter ego completely separate. X-Men dealt with issues of racism, sexism and sexuality in an allegorical fashion. Some mutants look just like everyone else and can hide to fit on, like Storm. Whereas others, like Beast and Nightcrawler can't or sometimes only find solace in a place that exploits weirdos, like a freak circus. We had a moment in comic history where things like that were banned, back with the draconian comics code where everything had to be black and white. Police and authority figures were always right, their actions should never be scrutinized or questioned and criminals are always bad, even if all they were doing were stealing food to feed their family. And that was boring as fuck. Who the hell would want that? I'd much rather see an interesting movie or read an interesting story that I disagreed with but got me to think than see something that just said "nope, everything you think is right and everyone else is wrong. Good job."

[@riley8385]

@@felman87 One of my favorite examples is Captain America shitting on the USA's for breaking international law. On a more personal level, as someone who lives in a country that had its democratic government overthrown by the USA, it was a little bit gratifying to see someone calling them out on their government's behavior.

[@josh-oo]

@@riley8385 That's the great thing about Captain America. He lives up to the ideal. The things America says it cares about (justice, liberty, rule of law, equality). He actually cares about them. He's the only thing with "America" in the name that I don't have any problems with.

[@trashrabbit69]

@@josh-oo What about America's Ass?

[@DeezieWheezie]

Why do these anti sjw types say “women” as a singular? “A women”

[@rhaeven]

respecc wahmen i think pewdiepie says/said it like that a lot and it just kind of caught on with them as a condescending way of talking about women in relation to feminism. yet another example of pewds not being openly hateful and then tons of chuds taking on his language.

[@no_peace]

YOU KNOW WHY

[@Hexane88]

Mr. Gamer-dude has the pin-pen merger, a marker of Southern American English - it turns up in other words he says. However. But also (mostly?), he's just a whiny shit sucker.

[@thealientree3821]

It’s almost like they’re objectifying women. Oopsies!

[@LezbeOswald]

@@rhaeven i never trust anyone who unironically says "wahmen"

[@kitwhitfield7169]

Hemsworth doesn’t look like he hates anyone, he just looks like he’s knackered. Which, er, press junket, doesn’t seem unlikely?

[@leonardhollsten8145]

@@Humorless_Wokescold It might be a personal passion.

[@GayDracula_]

@Django Fett Over the years (If you watch literally any interviews of the actors for marvel movies) You'll notice...the humans being interviewed...TheY ArE BaNTErING. They banter. Anthony mackie called tom holland an asshole, you believe that was genuine too?

[@ShootingStarNeo]

The "shut up and be grateful to fans for the platform" bit is just so... incredibly telling, along with "she has no ass". Like, how dare the media, the ART they claim to love, contain ideas they disagree with, or how dare the people working on them not simply be vessels that they are free to project characters onto. Likewise this whole "controversy" is a great (infuriating) example about how a woman being confident or assertive gets her labeled as a frigid bitch, and why a lot of women, myself included, have difficulty being assertive without injecting a whooole ton of qualifiers.

[@memany712]

There were a lot of women in Jeremy's reaction video to this video that " male Feminists are traitors and they don't need men to speak for themselves and Jack is a white knight " .

[@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930]

me many assuming those are real women/feminists (which I highly doubt considering the kind of content this guy puts out), so what? I hate to tell you this but feminism isn’t a hive mind, we all have our own ideas and sometimes those ideas are conflicting. As well some people in the community such as TERFs (although they’re hardly accepted) give extremely bad ideas that the rest of the community calls out. The point is, I don’t see how that matters at all to this conversation, or negates any of Jacks points.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

No man modern Feminism is awful. & Those women working with Jeremy r real women wow, you're really discrediting them because they aren't on you're team, Kinda Misogynistic right there, Because he's a white man makes him The alpha or something ?? "women can't think against you're Agenda" right ??, Wow you have a mentality of men in the 1950's you think women need to be submissive to you?? awful you're Just as bad as any Sexist/racist you Despise & fight against.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

No I completely disagee with you Nobody is calling you a frigid bitch or Brie Larson (Coughs) even though she is one. It's not about women being confident I'm not against that, I don't understand why some people Believe these lies from people, These Sjw's r trying to have Control over you, don't let them as a POC, I like Jeremy & think he's a great guy, Yeah I know that makes me in cahoots with him Fuck I am. I want more female superheroes but I want it to be good, not agenda driven.

[@no_peace]

"Be grateful" is not just an offhand statement it's a historical tool of oppression used to undermine marginalized people, people of color especially, and black people in particular. It seems like you see this but i think it needs to be spelled out It's a way of smearing someone for wanting too much while unintentionally acknowledging that they don't have as much as you, but even that amount is more than they really deserve, and it's CERTAINLY more than you had to "give" them, so just show some appreciation that you aren't still legally chattel okaaay Like listen and watch carefully when people drop a line like that. Look who says it. It often tends to come from young white men (or other people who see themselves as having higher status only by nature of their identity) of no importance so to speak, with no especial control over the world, talking about "we didn't have to give you anything." YOU didn't. YOU think you're the ruling class because of your IDENTITY. And then they get all mad about identity politics. (Eta this isn't meant to say powerful people don't say "be grateful" or call people "ungrateful" in the media. They do. Trump has, fox has, etc. My point is that they used it as propaganda and it worked.) Anyway it seems like a normal thing, "be grateful." People have that on their wall, lol. That's why it's so effective as propaganda. It puts people in the position of seeming to fight against the concept of gratitude

[@comicsans2212]

The whole “You should be thankful for Tony Stark paving the way for your movie” statement has the same vibes as the “straight cis white men decided to give you rights so you should respect them more” statement I get so often

[@comicsans2212]

IM LITERALLY DYING HE DID THE “SO MANY WHITE MEN BULT THE MOVIE FRANCHISE SO RESPECT USSSSSS” wOW

[@janedoe3043]

I wonder if that argument will work on the synthetic intelligence we will eventually create. I wonder if the T-1000 will respect them.

[@theenglishman]

You wearing extensions, Shaun?

[@Biogrrrl]

They look great. You can't see any tracks or anything. I especially like how that shade of blonde nicely complements the grey undertones in his skull

[@The5lacker]

Does... Does Mr. Gamer think Iron Man is a real person that Black Panther (another real person?) should be thankful for? Did anyone else get that impression?

[@christianfriisjensen2055]

Yeah, but even with that in mind, his position is still so amazingly incoherent and dumb.

[@MissAshley42]

I got the impression that he was fighting hard against the urge to do a racist impression thanking Mr. Iron Man.

[@francocarrizosparosvich4638]

And somehow that has something to do with trump too (?)

[@Ellisepha]

@@francocarrizosparosvich4638 Ironman himself voted for Drumpf /s

[@TheFantasticJoe]

"I don't care about Captain Marvel/Brie Larson/Modern Star Wars" [proceeds to make literally hundreds of videos about Captain Marvel/Brie Larson/Modern Star Wars]

[@Darleer]

And make youtube money from ithem don't forget

[@theophrastusbombastusvanho849]

TheFantasticJoe but he cares about money, and that’s probably the only reason he even made the video to begin with

[@kaydwessie296]

Reminds me of a facebook tag group I'm in, it's called something like "Unlike you SJWs, I do not care at all; A Novella"

[@kiriki4558]

@@theophrastusbombastusvanho849 i think he Made a video confesing that he actually does this for money from the reactionaries.

[@kozhedub]

it sucks that people like me who don't like modern star wars because we just don't like it get lumped in with people who don't like modern star wars because they hate black people and women

[@DanniBiersack]

People attacking a woman for not appearing sexually attractive to men and not behaving in an agreeable/pleasant manner (ie. smiling)? Ah, my favourite of the classic styles of mild/casual sexism

[@haggisa]

Danni It’s truly remarkable they don’t realise how backwards and sexist they come across, when they just have to point out how much a female character not smiling angers them. It’s like watching a bunch of grandfathers in thirty something men’s skin suits. Mr. Gamer’s next video will no doubt be about how access to higher education has ruined women’s skills at cooking and child rearing and how traditional gender roles really made everyone happier.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Danni Besides, even if Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel DID meet the bullshit sexist criteria all these doofuses are setting, it wouldn’t make any sense for the character or her place in the narrative. What, is the fighter pilot-turned-alien special forces soldier supposed to act dainty and cute?

[@oof-rr5nf]

Mild? This is definitely in the aggressive territory.

[@TrollinFromFlask]

Dishwashers don't get an opinion, go make a sandwich for a man near you and stfu

[@bottlenose.dolphin]

no name we really appreciate your sexist comments here! Thank you soooo much

[@jcs6387]

there's only two genders 1. Talented 2. Female

[@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930]

J Cs there’s only two genders: 1. Male 2. Political

[@harrylane4]

There's only two genders 1. Male 2. Smiling

[@littlewyzard]

There are only two genders 1. Talented 2. Model

[@no_peace]

Thank you

[@smileyp4535]

@Fizz so in other words there's one 1 gender: diarrhea Edit: joke number 2; we're insecure or overzealous assholes, huh? No wonder the world is so shitty

[@kerycktotebag8164]

"I'm not mad or obsessing, I'm just participating in capitalism" is the most powerful condemnation of capitalism.

[@shingshongshamalama]

"Stop coming into my cultural safe space and then challenging my politics and showing me how out of touch and bigoted I am! That's bad!"

[@iliketurtles2531]

If only they were actually that honest.

[@DiXtionRap]

Globalist "a person who advocates the interpretation or planning of economic and foreign policy in relation to events and developments throughout the world"

[@LieseFury]

@@DiXtionRap oh a dictionary definition. thanks bro that's a valuable contribution to this discussion and is totally relevant to what right-wingers mean when they say globalist

[@LTDLetsPlays]

your bias is showing keep it down you pervs

[@carbootstudios2459]

@@nicholasrodinos4701 Ironic coming from you

[@ghostmoss8158]

These dudes are super frightening ? What the hell is wrong with them, having that much rage towards a complete stranger. It makes me afraid they’ll become violent. So much rage over things they don’t own & aren’t entitled to. Irrational rage & sexual complexes make for violent men. To be attracted to & to hate a stranger this much at the same time. Misogyny is terrifying.

[@pablorodriguez7188]

GHOST MOSS I feel bad for their partners or, god forbid, if they have daughters.

[@haggisa]

GHOST MOSS They lose their mind, when they see a woman refusing to conform to sets of behaviours they’d prefixed for her. They hate the fact, that they can’t control her and have no power over her. That’s what their petulant boycott of the movie was - a feeble attempt at control.

[@clubafterlife]

seriously, the Quartering appears mildly psychotic to me

[@DragonMaiden77]

clubafterlife The Quartering honestly seems mentally unhealthy to me.

[@clubafterlife]

@@DragonMaiden77 just look at the amount of hatred in his eyes when Brie is doing nothing but making a mild facial expression. It's legit scary

[@blackmachine312]

These people don't hate Brie Larson. They hate want Brie Larson represent and what is to come: a woman who isn't afraid to speak her mind without caring what people thinks about her. She might come off as cocky/arrogant even a little bit awkward. And playing a character who is also like this. When a men character is like this (I.E. Iron Man and Thor) they have no problem with this. The people saying that she should shut up about diversity and being "political" should also say the same thing to Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, RDJ and many more. It's double standard plain and simple. HAVE THEY SEEN THE TWITTER PROFILE OF THESE MEN?! SERIOUSLY, THEY ARE NOT HIDING IT.

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

Always with the easy comparison between Thor & Tony with Danvers. Thor and Tony had their arrogance portrayed as flaws and they got their humble pies in their 1st movie. The only bit that Danvers ever got was when Thanos punched her.

[@ivanespinosa2216]

The Prince of His Own Kingdom SHE HAD HER WHOLE PERSONALITY STOLEN. HER FAMILY BROKEN. SHE WAS KIDNAPPED BY THESE ALIENS! She is constantly belittled and asked to “tone down” her strengths because others weren’t as powerful. Also, she is shown to be very humble and friendly by means of Monica and Fury. She never go all murder spree like Stark nor did she go around looking to make war like Thor. You literally want her to be humble by way of “don’t be smug”. Which neither Stark nor Thor ever stopped. In Ragnarok, Waititi actually picks at this trope time and time again. Every time Thor is being smug he gets shut down cus “being smug” is not an identity and it gets boring real quick (which is also why Doc Strange gets toned down in Infinity War and Iron Man gets goddamn PTSD in IM 3. To make them more likeable in spite being insufferable)

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

@laz kar No, I never said that. My focus was on the poor comparison between the characters.

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

@@ivanespinosa2216 @Ivan Espinosa Her personality was never stolen. She was boastful even at the movie's beginning. She was belittled but how does this affects her? She's still the star of Starforce. She's still got the best comebacks to her teammates. Her and Fury's friendship is not believable. Fury basically fanboys her and she condescends him throughout. How did this Fury went to "My world does not revolve around you" Fury in Iron Man 2? Sure, Tony's still smug once in a while but at least he knew when and where.

[@Spring_32]

They talk about freedom of speech, and yet they say "why don't you shut up?". They can speak, I'm free to not listen to them. This simple concept is completely unknown to them.

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

The G A M I F I C A T I O N of speech has ruined any good faith discussion on the principle of free speech. They make their own rules and definitions in a sub-cultural bubble, and they haven't considered that maybe free speech can only be maintained in an equal, civil, and academic environment, or that, gasp, SJWs get free speech too.

[@memany712]

There were a lot of women in Jeremy's reaction video to this video that " male Feminists are traitors and they don't need men to speak for themselves and Jack is a white knight " .

[@antihinduismisbased]

@@memany712 that ass even made an response to this video? I can already predict what it would be like.

[@carbootstudios2459]

Strawmanning

[@antihinduismisbased]

@@memany712 ok, I had trouble sitting through it, but I'm happy that lived up to my expectations.

[@hamankarn7857]

Did he really unironically use the term "wahmen"?

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

Love the username/profile pic!

[@TrollinFromFlask]

no one does, that's the entire reason people use the word....

[@tashachasse7239]

it’s so wild. i see the term used on the internet, but he was the first time i’ve ever heard someone actually say it out loud and it’s just as annoying as i pictured it sounding in my head

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

It's hilarious my dude.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

It's great.

[@Iamjustherek]

For accuracy, please rename this video “Angry Pasty White Men Prove Bri Larson Right for Nearly 50 Minutes”

[@theblandcharlie822]

For accuracy, say nearly 48 minutes

[@NeonMoon87]

They have so much to say about Captain Marvel but have nothing to say about Thor Dark World. That's all you need to know.

[@Clay3613]

TDK is the better movie however. CM like Antman and The Wasp was very bleh.

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

B-b-but get woke go broke... It rhymes, therefore it's irrefutably true

[@KhayJayArt]

They really think like that though.

[@swanpride]

The most fun was how they kept moving the goal posts in the beginning...yeah it made more than expected on opening weekend, but it has to hit 700 million to break even...yeah, it has hit 700 million, but it won't beat Wonder Woman domestically….yeah, it did, but it won't make a billion...oh, it did, but we swear to you, Disney expected it to make 500 million more and it is all on Brie Larson that it didn't make more than any Marvel movie other than Endgame and Infinity war.

[@UltimatBlitz]

Lol I always love this way of thinking like if I couldn't just say the same thing after throwing the word "don't" in there, for either "Don't get woke, then go broke" or "Get woke, don't go broke." I know you were joking by the way :>

[@swanpride]

Captain Marvel isn't the lowest reviewed Marvel film, and it did better than most Marvel movies do. Way better. None of the Marvel franchises have ever hit 1 billion with a completely new character. Not even the GotG do numbers like this.

[@levinabear5234]

@@swanpride CM made a billion because before it came out they announced she would have an important role in Endgame. They even stated you didnt have to watch CM as it was optional. It made a billion as it was literally at the end game. It was in the path of Endgame. Just because it made a crap ton of money doesnt mean its a good movie. Look at TLJ.. It made a ton of money and it split the fan-base. Not saying you cant like these movies.

[@emma8226]

mr gamer is literally the “I’m an adult virgin” vine

[@TaliaIGhul]

Except he has a wife and child. Your comment's an epic fail.

[@Clay3613]

@@TaliaIGhul He's still a failure, making pathetic content while dressing like a child.

[@earenqueen]

I hit like and disliked immediately because 69 (nice)

[@nataliemilburn2585]

oNE feMaLE diReCToR? tHE fEMiNiSTs aRE tAkiNG oVeR!

[@kostajovanovic3711]

@@TaliaIGhul even worse

[@starfruitkitten]

“KeEp POlitICs oUt of MoVIes” as if cinema isn’t often a reflection of the cultural climate it’s made in. As if actors haven’t been using their platform to address issues important to them since forever. Maybe it’s just ok when Marlon Brando does it????

[@swanpride]

Honestly, the MCU is as political as it get in big blockbuster. The very first movie was about weapon exports in the middle east and Captain American always has been and always will be political as f...

[@landlovessky]

EXACTLY!!! Idk what people dont GET about it. “Keep politics outta it” POLITICS IS LITERALLY IN EVERYTHING

[@blixer8384]

What they actually mean is "Keep messages that challenge my political beliefs and show how bigoted and out of touch I am out of movies that I watch."

[@EYang-hl6hv]

right? Wasn't Iron Man 1's major driving force a giant iraqi war/weapons deal/terrorism/corporate war funding... thing?

[@deannasmith4443]

right? NVM that the MCU is a direct allegory for POC and LGBT people according to fucking stan lee of all people... nope... gotta keep those politics out of the MCU to avoid offending our cis-het-white-male overlords from throwing yet another deadly tantrum....

[@lwcaexii]

"...of the fans. Who are - unfortunately for Bree Larson - a lot of older white dudes." See that's funny, it's fairly anecdotal but a massive proportion of the MCU fanbase appears to be teens and adults in their 20s. They're certainly playing an increasing role in driving the community online. Besides- why would they cater to the sterotypical straight white guy(tm) when it's their younger fans who are buying mass amounts of merch, and its their younger fans they want to try to encourage to move into buying comics?

[@fredbillsworth8311]

Telling women to smile, classy. edit: Also in that interview, SHE'S LITERALLY JUST SITTING THERE. SITTING THERE. TALKING.

[@Dalekzilla54]

G+G: Bloody SJWs, always getting offended by everything. Brie Larson: Exists G+G: Head explodes

[@fulcrum6760]

Dalekzilla54 They should get a Content Cop.

[@fulcrum6760]

Worm Driver I don’t recall IDubbz bullying small youtubers for calling them out.

[@carbootstudios2459]

Worm Driver Who are?

[@fulcrum6760]

Henry Stanley Jerno, BLevelStarWars, Ironinquisitor, one of their own’s dead sister, Ewoks Unhinged, and the list goes on. There’s a couple of small youtubers reporting this shit.

[@Flameclaw123]

So Captain Marvel is somehow both spitting in the face of characters like Tony Stark, yet completely unlikable because of her "pompous" and egotistical attitude... hmm, those character traits remind me of another Marvel character........

[@asteroid1460]

Too be fair Tony gets his fucking shit kicked in for the first half of iron Man 1. Captain marvel really never has that struggle. Also Tony is more charismatic, making his ego easier to swallow.

[@bluelan9393]

To be fair, Tony Stark was a cool character for his flaws and strengths. Carol Danvers has the charisma of a brick. I was more excited to see Scarlett wicth have her vengeance VS Thanos than Captain Marvel just being a boring Mary sue

[@magical571]

Tony stark is an annoying character, cant stand him

[@ananiasford]

@@asteroid1460 have you seen the movie? Almost all of her flashbacks were her failing and failing. It was an important theme in the movie.

[@asteroid1460]

@@ananiasford m8 Tony stark was literally blown up, had his heart replaced with some bootleg magnet device, and worked in terrible working conditions for a terrorist group for months. Carol's flashbacks literally had her fall down a few times.

[@jmn327]

Golden rule of reactionary commentary: every accusation is a projection. "She won't stop making her comments!", says sad, sad man with 100+ videos about a single actress in the span of less than a year.

[@Apelles42069]

The infamous "rage boner"

[@Trustworthy_McLegitimate]

weird thing is, I think Larson made less than ten of whatever comments they were mad about. Thats why they resorted to her butt and not constantly smiling, and her standing there... like any other homo sapien.

[@Robstafarian]

@@Trustworthy_McLegitimate "[…] and her standing there... like any other homo sapien." (who is not disabled)

[@kyoyameganebereznoff]

In regards to Mr. Gamer’s “talent vs. women” comments, he completely ignored another issue with his statement: that people need experience to hone their craft. If the industry only looks for “the most talented,” they will stick to the directors they know, which, at this time, is mostly men. There are many talented and qualified women (and just people in general), but because they aren’t well known, they get overlooked. By looking for a female director, Marvel Studios is potentially giving a talented woman an opportunity to prove herself and hone her skills which will help her produce even better films in the future. You have to take risks with new directors at some point (any new director will be a risk) because your favorites won’t be alive forever, so why not give underrepresented voices a shot?

[@KookiesNolly]

"If the industry only looks for “the most talented,” they will stick to the directors they know, which, at this time, is mostly men." Yep, You cracked the code, that's what manbabies like that gamer dude want. Although they wouldn't even go as far as saying that making movies is a craft, these dudes are the kind of morons who say "art is subjective" when you criticize a movie they like and have no idea HOW movies are made and what makes them good or bad, yet criticize filmmakers constantly. There metrics for good movies is mostly "those this appeal to my fanboy sensibilities?" and "does this make feel smart?" They would probably stop at "penises make better movies", at least on a subconscious level.

[@stupidskullstudios8884]

Brie Larson won an ocsar. There's no reason her performance as captain marvel should be as shitty as it is. How the hell did she even get an oscar.

[@SilvrSavior]

Stage plays, indie films, background extras, secondary characters. You know all those things that aren't center stage to hone acting ability until you build your craft. If someone likes your acting and puts you center stage with your first roll, then good on you. Otherwise just like every other job there is grind involved.

[@VanillaSunrise56]

@@stupidskullstudios8884 Because as it turns out she didn't win an Oscar for Captain Marvel but in fact a completely different movie where she played an entirely different character and gave an entirely different performance that fit the character of the movie. I know it's a hard concept to grasp but we call that 'acting'. It's where people play different people in different forms of media and performance.

[@georgespiggott5615]

not to mention that the film industry (like most industries) is biased in favor of white men, even if those men are less talented. a whole lot of gender and race bias is totally unconscious -- blind auditions tend to be a LOT more equitable than ones where you see the performer face to face, or the names of writers can negatively effect how people see their work if it's a woman's. hell, it's why jk rowling was advised to use her initials instead of her name, because industry giants KNOW this.

[@devinfaux6987]

My god, these guys are so pathetic...

[@arkhamfivehundred]

I know, right? How insecure do you have to be in your manhood to post 100+ videos on the same film just because it was directed by a woman?

[@DaneJiujitsu]

Exactly just because Brie is ugly and fat there is no reason to pick on her

[@Gripen1974]

I think it is fun that this "comic bookfans" complain over that Marvel movies are SJW when Marvel comics have always been SJW. The same thing is it about "star trek fans" complaining about star trek being political and SJW. Which it has always been.

[@stoopidapples1596]

xmen was about being homosexual. somehow, anti-sjws seem to look so far into disney that they see the true cultural marxist radical feminist conspiracies behind it but they can't see anything past "cool sword and big boobs" in their nostalgic texts.

[@Di7manya]

The anti-sjw crowd isn't very bright. These are the same people that complained that the Watchmen TV show was "going woke". Fucking Watchmen. Probably the single most "SJW"/progressive comic book story ever told. They are people that unironically love Rohrschach, without realising that Alan Moore has gone on record that he thinks that anyone who relates to or likes Rohrschach is disgustsing and probably a sociopath.

[@someonerandom8552]

Thank you!! But honestly to me it’s infuriating. This whole celebration of deliberately disengaging with artistic narrative messages “trend” that seems to be championing idiocy and shallowness. I do not like this at all. It’s happening everywhere. Like in the metal scene people are claiming that radicalised Leftist bands are apolitical (example Rage Against the Machine.) No, we need to stop being so dumbed down and actually engage with the media we consume. In any art form

[@deusexmachina9776]

@@Di7manya Alan Moore's writing was sympathetic to Rorschach, the man has a horrible childhood. Whatever the author's intentions it didn't translate to paper. Yes Watchmen is woke, like the show is more concerned with politics than actual storytelling - implying a character who was never portrayed as a racist is such without properly flushing out the theme of false interpretation. Dude the show is garbage

[@TheThirdRail]

@@deusexmachina9776 the show is right-wing copaganda

[@tiffanyy6376]

The interview bit reminded me about that there are buch of interviews of the cast making various remarks against Tom Holland, yet for whatever reason these gamer people never boycotted Tom Holland or made thousands of videos about how Tom is “unlikable” or “the Marvel cast secretly hates Tom Holland”.Hmmm, I wonder why that is...

[@moustik31]

to be fair. he smiled, has a sexy butt in costume and keeps his comments apolitical 🙄

[@kaylemathewcomendador7614]

On another note: most celebrity interviews can be awkward. So I'm not sure what's with people constantly pointing out that the rest of the cast getting awkward with Brie.

[@oilch1621]

i'm seriously done hearing men talk about this movie. i appreciate this video and love you for saying this, but watching some of the clips used to demonstrate these opinions caused me physical pain

[@oof-rr5nf]

Honestly. I held them back, but I was close to tearing up. How much can one hate women. Did they like forget she was a real person? A human?

[@anonrickfail1]

I can't imagine being so obsessed with someone that I make literally hundreds of videos dedicated to bitching about every single thing someone does These dudes need help tbh, they won't get those clown shoes on themselves

[@memany712]

There were a lot of women in Jeremy's reaction video to this video that " male Feminists are traitors and they don't need men to speak for themselves and Jack is a white knight " .

[@stargazer162]

I want to believe they're only doing it because it's profitable, or at least even if they actually believe what they're saying to a varying degree, their main motivation behind those videos is money, and they aren't actually *that* obsessed over what some famous person said once.

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

@@stargazer162 Or maybe die-hard anti-feminists have found themselves a profitable online niche. "The scum rises to the top", as they say.

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

@@memany712 "Women" lol sure

[@maddi6081]

Eh, he's probably been rejected by a lot of women (and probably one that looks like/acts like Brie) and he feels insecure.

[@ihaveasecret9539]

Geeks + Gamers has to be one of the pettiest outrage bait channels I’ve ever seen on KZbin.

[@mcpics4448]

Mac mcskullface I mostly against the sjw vs anti-sjw war the Internet is obsessed with It spreading everywhere to comic and movies Anti-sjw is just as obsessed with identity politics as those sjw they hate

[@jowysw]

@@mcpics4448 the irony...

[@bjam89]

You have not heard of yellow flash guy then

[@haggisa]

Mac mcskullface They both sound like petulant 14 year old boys, who got grounded and by god THEY WILL LET THEIR PARENTS KNOW WHAT BULLSHIT THAT IS.

[@lautimhum6734]

John talk says his hi

[@goron5078]

I knew you nailed Shaun's style when I put the video on 2x speed

[@Durandurandal]

I'm not alone T-T

[@kimifw58]

Thanks for the suggestion. He talks too slowly.

[@blipboigilgamesh7865]

I personally like it at 1.25× speed

[@johannageisel5390]

For me as a non-native English speaker, this tempo is perfect. There are several channels who talk far too fast and I can't follow them. Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions for example. Or Artifexian before people asked him to slow down.

[@poncho3326]

@@johannageisel5390 KZbinrs like Red or Yatzee (Zero Punctuation) or probably the best way to naturally learn english from KZbin, and I strongly recommend non english speakers who like their content to persevere with their talking speed. After some time you can get up to speed without much effort, at least that's how it was for me. It's a bit annoying at first, but the trick is to resist the urge to pause, replay or slow down the video. Let them talk and do your best to follow. Even if you don't understand every word, once your brain get the general idea, it will fill in the blanks. I learned more in a year by simply binge watching Red's content than in 7 years of english lessons in middle school and high school.

[@csblakeley]

He's 39?!? Really?! He looks like he's 21 and sounds like he's 13.

[@petrfedor1851]

I gues he is emotionally still 13.

[@trejon-graceshopkinzmake5186]

And talks like an angry 10 year old who’s mom just took away the Xbox

[@gateauxq4604]

Toxic White dude comic youtubers-yells about SJWS invading their movies cuz white men Also Toxic White dude comic youtubers-ignores Chris Evans’s blunt political tweets and sticks Ahsoka Tanno images all over the place to ‘be woke’?

[@TaliaIGhul]

You're a fucking idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. He disliked the fact that Chris Evans ended his friendship with Tom Brady because of Tom's political allegiance with Trump.

[@VicEntity]

@@TaliaIGhul still you don't see G+G promoting excentially an witch hunt on Chris Evans, do you?

[@williamkennedy7846]

When Jontron faces controversy, theese people defend his content, and say that we can separate the art from the artist. When a woman says something they don't like, obviously, they should boycott the movie, genious

[@GaryViews]

this is honestly the worst kind of double standard

[@belias360]

I only just found out what it was JonTron said that sparked said controversy. Considering I argued with a friend's dad over that very same topic a few years ago, needless to say I am never viewing his content again.

[@dakotab.7244]

it is unfortunate to say the least. the simple act of existing as a woman is inherently political. if Captain Marvel were a man (to my knowledge the most recent incarnation in the comic is a woman so a male Capt. Marvel wouldn't even be accurate) there would be no bs about how it's a "feminist film" - as if that's some grave sin in itself!

[@Szriko]

William Kennedy Listen, just because a middle-eastern immigrant hates the middle east and immigrants doesn't mean he's as bad as a woman not having a huge, slappable ass in a leather costume. Some things are actually unforgiveable.

[@williamkennedy7846]

@@dakotab.7244 Interesting, perhaps movies could start using feminist messages while staring male main characters, that way, angry neckbeards won't be angry because they are to stupid to identify the feminist message. Maybe they won't even see it since they only watch Marvel and Starwars movies.

[@harrylane4]

Woman: makes movie KZbin incels: hey, don't do that

[@gelatinouscatgirl8369]

I can't do it Jack I stopped at 20 minutes. Listening to quartering is like listening to nails on chalkboard while I slowly break styrofoam with my hands.

[@yusukeelric]

ikr? he sounds exactly like the quartering but kicking to another goalpost. I couldn't endure 10 minutes of this video. Wich is honestly a feat. I can't stand one minute of the quartering

[@rhaeven]

Oh god, I took a break during the Mr Gamer bit and didnt even know there was quartering coming up, I don't know if I have the energy today

[@perro692]

Some shity internet guy: makes a lot of racist/misogynistic comments Gamers: lol this are just jokes, can people not take jokes now a days Brie Larson: ok so.. Gamers: OMG THIS IS LITERALLY A HATE CRIME STOOOOOP, also i don't care about your opinion and i'm gonna make 100 videos telling you how much i don't care

[@colinclaytor4669]

ERROR ANONIMO so true 😂

[@birdiejett3163]

As an aspiring entertainer who happens to be a woman, it’s painful to me that certain people look at successful women and minorities and assume they were only “handed” that success to promote an ideology. As if they couldn’t possibly have gotten there through hard work, talent, or even just luck. Granted there are celebrities who draw WAY to much attention to their gender/ethnicity/sexuality, but people like Jeremy-sorry, “Mr. Gamer”-are so paranoid that they become dismissive of the mere idea of representation.

[@nbcommiedyke]

and tbh I can't think of someone who focuses WAY too much on their identity. like that is typically just code for "they're existing as a non-white/non-straight/non-male etc person in public"

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@nbcommiedyke Yeah No

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Jeremy isn't paranoid he's just tired of idiots like Brie preaching nonsense & fake promises, I cannot stand activists & The fact they won't shut up & ask what people really want, they r Just controlling everything & telling us how to act or Behave, Also me & many others r tired of Feminist narratives in Entertainment it needs to stop, I'm all for representation but things need to seriously change.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@Aditya Chavarkar I'm Complaining about saying Jeremy or people that think Captain marvel are bad people or sexist because they are against Captain Marvel & Bries Cringe Comments. No I'm not mad because someone told me to be I'm irritated of false narratives & Demonizing of Fandoms for not loving a certain movie & voicing their opinion on it being garbage.

[@tyronechillifoot5573]

Rule of thumb people who complain about pandering are just mad they aren't the one's being pandered to

[@tyronechillifoot5573]

@Shannon Randolph >making media that appeals to specific groups of people is demeaning Why is exactly? Because you're making something that appeals to them? How are you treating them like mindless children? Is giving someone foods they like also insulting their intelligence?

[@nadiaseidu5342]

Shannon Randolph reading all of that, I still have absolutely no idea what your problem is with representation, as this whole thing was a tangent.

[@riley8385]

@Shannon Randolph LOL, I imagine that when you realize media has been pandering to straight white dudes since basically the beginning you'll have the same reaction, right? Yeah, I bet...

[@riley8385]

​@Shannon Randolph Yeah, I'm sure you've been complaining for years about movies pandering to straight dudes, right? Right, we both know the answer to that. See, here's the thing, every movie panders to certain demographic, often to as much demographics as they can. That's why a lot of action movies have romantic subplots, for instance. Because for a long time, executives believed women wouldn't want to watch the movie otherwise. "Straight white male" was for decades considered the default on our society (and still is, tbh), and as such movies always pandered to their tastes. Now, people working on media have started to realize that there's money on other pockets as well, and they want to capitalize on it. All this is just a big case of conservatives getting angry at the result of a free market.

[@riley8385]

@Shannon Randolph No, I'm saying that the "trend"(*) that bothers you has been a thing since forever. (*): emphasis on the quotation marks, because a handful of movies is no trend.

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

First Philosophy Tube, then Lindsay Ellis, then Sarah Z, then ContraPoints and now Jack Saint? They're all releasing new videos? We eatin' good this month.

[@pixel-st2mj]

WAIT WHICH ONE WAS WHICH I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE BEFORE THIS ONE

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

@@pixel-st2mj Philosophy Tube did a great video on Sex Work, Lindsay Ellis did a video on Aladdin, Sarah Z did an awesome video on the subculture of Theatre Bootlegs & ContraPoints did an introspective video about 'beauty'.

[@MasterMemo]

So like, is that beckoning Shaun and Hbomberguy then? Are they in the next few days?

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

@@MasterMemo Zoey Blade posted on Twitter she's making some new music, most likely for a video that Hbomb is working on, don't know about Shaun, though, but his Twitter feed has been fire lately.

[@MasterMemo]

@@ThatOneGuy7550 oh hell yeah

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

"I don't like labels" "social justice warriors" basically the next sentence Mmmmm aight then

[@lastlife0726]

"Wow, I love Brie Larson!" "You can't love Brie Larson, she represents everything wrong with the SJWs!" "Wow, I'm going to love Brie Larson twice as much out of spite!"

[@Horatio787]

That's what we call a vicious cycle.

[@kisstwobirds]

Brie Larson’s character in United States of Tara was my first big girl crush and it made me laugh every time that dude tried to say she can’t emote thinking of her playing a bratty teen girl

[@lindiemoon]

@@kisstwobirds I thought she was so awesome on there!

[@carbootstudios2459]

Good for you

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Love brie but she is the devil.

[@red-dwarf]

that one gamer dude saying about brie 'why won't you just shut up?!' is just so PAINFULLY honest. they really and truly HATE her for simply speaking about social issues (albeit in a crude way) and challenging the status quo. kinda gave me chills.

[@rueenglish9328]

It’s even richer that just a moment earlier he said “NOBODY CARES” as if he didn’t care enough to record, edit, post, and pick a thumbnail for a video to assure the world of how VERY insignificant this actress’s opinions are, and beg the heavens to silence Brie Larson for her insolence so he and the rest of his poor, oppressed fellow white 40 yr old men will finally be free of SJW tyranny, and free to insert their ALWAYS relevant, HIGHLY valuable opinions into everything and anything But nah, he doesn’t care. Really. He’s fine. He’s fine. We’re fine. He’s fine. It’s fine. It’s fine

[@Theresa-uj4le]

I felt the same! It's like he doesn't even hear himself.

[@SolarrApple]

I think talking crudely about social issues is a good way to go about it because it's not... like... an optional thing. you can't just opt out of facts, yknow? it should be talked about factually and crudely because its common factual knowledge among people who know better

[@magenreed3579]

Any time somebody says that about her it translates immediately to “why don’t women just shut up” for me.

[@sadtitties222]

@@SolarrApple Agreed.

[@djrydell]

man: dont like what woman is saying. i insult her appearance. man: i am a rational person who should be listened to and taken seriously. JUST SHUT UP!

[@scarymonsterzz]

mr. gamer: "lol SJWs are such sensitive crybabies" also mr. gamer: *makes over 100 videos whining about brie larson*

[@ohhellobethany]

xConsultingTrickster That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. It’s funny how they criticize the left for being “too emotional” when clearly they feel the need to passionately turn molehills into MOUNTAINS. Way to live your life.

[@____uncompetative]

John Talks made over 50 when he discovered how many Subscribers he was getting from them.

[@edward2962]

Cust of Dusty did a video of this trend and included an outtake from Mr Gamer. I'm not sure if GG was talking about his Star Wars vids or Capt Marvel or what but he says, "This is the easiest thing I've ever done. I will continue to monetize your pain and dumbness."

[@kloggmonkey]

mr gamer: they removed the 'want to see' rating, we are being silenced and oppressed! also mr gamer: brie larson keeps voicing her opinions and she needs to be stopped now!!

[@boopityboopboop]

sounds like fanboys of pathetic ass creep voice actor Vic Lasagna lmao

[@malcomchase9777]

I love how it's "SJW"s that put labels on people and then tell others to shut up. None of the examples in this video ever labeled someone else and then told them to shut up, because they really really respect free speech, right? Right?

[@memany712]

There were a lot of women in Jeremy's reaction video to this video that " male Feminists are traitors and they don't need men to speak for themselves and Jack is a white knight " .

[@malcomchase9777]

@@memany712 I don't follow, what does that have to do with the hypocrisy I'm pointing out?

[@memany712]

@@malcomchase9777 I am just copying and pasting this in order to get reply . I am quite insane .

[@georgiestroud8671]

the funniest thing is that these guys are OPENLY CONTRADICTING THEMSELVES. like, 'you women shouldn't talk about politics because no one cares about what you're saying' but also 'you women shouldn't use your platform to talk about this stuff.' do they know that 'having a platform' means that people care what you have to say? so, no one cares... but blarson has a Platform, so she shouldn't say things, cause... people do care what she has to say. also, if you 'don't care' so much, why'd you make 100 vids about it, mr gamer?

[@Kat-qe1vk]

"Mr Gamer-" "Please, Mr Gamer was my father- call me Geek"

[@serpenking]

This obnoxious hubbub was one of the defining factors that had me moving away from the "anti-sjw" sphere on yt because it really sunk in that "wow, they really actually hate women. they dont like me or want to hear my voice"

[@poego6045]

That same thing happened with Gamergate. A lot of people jumped on when they thought "hey, there's corruption in games media? I wanna help make it better!" But a lot weren't aware of how it started, and over time, most of the women, LGBT, and people of color started to jump the band wagon when it started to be more and more apparent that gamergate was about making games journalism solely catering to white cis Male gamers, and they only want minorities on their side to hold up and say "seee? It's not about bigotry" despite a lot of gamergate inherently revolving around it.

[@heathercalun4919]

If it took you this long to wake up, I guess someone needs to fill you in. There's a conspiracy going on to mass produce white babies as part of some sort of illogical perverse social security measure, and the reasoning is backed up by the bible and a vague gut feeling of truthiness. They (the "They" in this situation is admittedly kind of amorphous, but that's because the alt-right uses a swarm method) are planning to kill all non-whites and then institute some sort of Handmaid's Tale policy. Starting during the Reagan election, overturning Roe V Wade has been the singular issue the Republican Party, and by extension, all modern conservative and fascist movements, have gravitated around. I mean for Putin, taking out the UN so he can annex the Ukraine is also a big deal, but even he maintains crushing the Pussy Riot as a secondary agenda. The Roman Catholic Church is pretty unsubtle about their hatred of women, but the problem is bigger than most people are willing to admit; the population of Vatican City, which is based not on residency but hand-picked membership, is 99% male. Sister, there is a WAR going on for your body. And no matter how you feel about killing a fetus, if you have any reluctance about killing Mitch McConnell or any of his cronies I suggest you sit with it and get over it. The voices of women in the pro-life movement are especially silenced and need to be heard. But most men in the pro-life movement don't give a FUCK about the sanctity of life, or your rights, or anything besides getting money and hating women. There is a class of people out there who amount to nothing more than a hive of rapists and rapist-protectors. And if you want to be free, you have to embrace feminism and be prepared to smoke the hive out and crush those wasps. If you are just now seeing the anti-feminists for who they are, I probably sound extreme, and a little crazy, but I'm not wrong. If anything, my heart has only been repeatedly broken to realize the horror stories are worse than I imagined. If you are female, or a woman, or feminine, or even anything other than this "Reason over Emotion" bullshit, we need your help. Just wake up quickly, because this war may have started long long long ago, but time is always of critical importance.

[@gigangreg7837]

Oh they'll care for sure; as long as you agree with them

[@tigerfestivals5137]

@@heathercalun4919 I haven't heard anything this nutty since my conspiracy theories class.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

No Jeremy is a outstanding guy he Has female friends that star wars girl. he like aelita godamnit There is no trolls g+g is not alt right he's just a honest guy telling the truth.

[@BREADSWORD]

You snapped with this one king 🖤

[@ottoweininger8156]

Oh dear. Oh dear...

[@Chimera-man-man]

“Instead of being a friend of the fans, who are unfortunately for Brie Larson is a lot of older white dudes” (Lapses into a moment of existential anguish where he realises most of the demographic of these films are kids and that he is a 30+ dude complaining about girls being in Superhero movies on the internet) “Why won’t you just shut up?”

[@justtosuffer398]

Cameron That made me laugh so hard...😂

[@fros333]

Demographic is majority 16-25 year old white males.

[@indrason6974]

@@fros333 these movies make a lot of money in countries like China , India , Korea , middle east

[@fros333]

@@indrason6974 Cool, majority is still 16-25 year old white males

[@Chimera-man-man]

Psyent Coity yeah like I said, kids

[@rzavala9095]

I love how these guys personally address Brie Larson as if she's gonna see their video and be so scared that 39 year old Mr Gamer and Baby Man are refusing to see the movie

[@calebfleming123]

They do that with everyone. When he faces the reality that will never be a possibility he will be so embarrassed. Maybe he won't. I do hope he gets humbled by someone and put on the right track though. I subscribed to him because he had interesting points about game of thrones s8 but it soon turned into a large pool of negativity, and I guess that was really all it was from the get go. Season 8 sucked, yeah, but I'm not on board of ripping down someone's work with a petition or attacking people because of what I didn't get. Their channel just got so poisoned by that.

[@Psykroids]

Dafuq is wrong with you people? You know youtube can be used as a video dump just for rants and shit. Seriously man. Dafuq is wrong with you people?

[@fulcrum6760]

Lettuce Man Him and his group are basically fascists. They attack small youtubers who question them.

[@calebfleming123]

Fulcrum 67 yeah they’re annoying, what’s even worse is they’re growing. I subscribed to the quartering too way back when he had 50k subs because of his of his take on making Ciri being casted as a black girl and then that channel quickly turned into toxicity and he’s going up on 600k subs now. He had something to say about everything. After g&g I learned to just watch people’s content to see if it’s just going to be negativity the whole way. I hate how much they’re growing dude it’s nuts that, that many people can’t enjoy things.

[@Psykroids]

@@fulcrum6760 You're asshole because you sling names and insults all day. Grow out of your paranoia ya stooge.

[@javv1193]

All of this just because she said there should be more representation.

[@lastlife0726]

Brie Larson: (exists in any capacity) Neckbeard mk 22: "THERE'S THE LOOK!"

[@zegh8578]

Christ how are these people able to grow into adulthood, tie their shoes, open doors, work forks without injuring themselves... how!?

[@no_peace]

They have so many things wrong with them but you go with something that is hurtful to disabled people instead of attacking misogynists directly

[@nkbujvytcygvujno6006]

People’s cruelty has nothing to do with their physical abilities.

[@riotbreaker3506]

Brie Larson: *coughs* Anti-SJWs: I've been attacked

[@riotbreaker3506]

@@nikhilnewse3318 you're bad at insults.

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

@@nikhilnewse3318 "wamen and gays bad. Essjaydubbleyous ruined [insert literally anything]. Wamen pushing agenda, gays pushing agenda, you disagree you essjaydubbyou. Forced diversity"

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

Breathe

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

I love the inherent intellectual dishonesty of assuming more female directors means less male directors. Maybe they could just... I dunno... Make more movies?

[@oof-rr5nf]

NO! ONLY 20 MOVIES PER YEAR ABOUT WHITE MEN JACKING OFF DIRECTLY INTO THE CAMERA! 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

[@squidcultist0022]

@@oof-rr5nf no homo tho

[@no_peace]

I mean that doesn't really represent the common view that resources are finite and you have to battle for them

[@blacklightredlight2945]

@@no_peace Earth can only handle so many movies a year, that's why we only rarely hear of foreigners making movies, america hoards them all.

[@GLAASJEMELC]

"Who cares if there is a female super hero? Why do you have to force representation? Why does her gender matter? Why do you constantly have to talk about it? Why can't the movie just speak for itself by being a good movie?" Are these the questions you shouldn't be asking yourself mate?

[@Mwothyman]

I mean, if the guy read the comics then yeah, there is a reason her gender matters

[@yusukeelric]

Wonder Woman?

[@yusukeelric]

Wasn't great but i can call that movie good.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Because Sjw's make female Charecters shitty and make it all about being female, until it becomes a Obsession, it annoys people it annoys me.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Representaion is stupid, It just means less men & whites to these Idiotic Leftists, they make me despise that word.

[@Carabas72]

How the bloody hell is Disney even supposed to fire Rian Johnson after he already has completed his work anyway? Time travel?

[@Z10ZeeTen]

I find it so ironic that Mr. Gamer is opposed to the idea of female representation in big franchises when he's clearly a huge Ahsoka fan.

[@kasig2013]

I know, right?! I was thinking that too.

[@yarnpenguin]

He can probably only sleep at night by telling himself that Ahsoka was just a supporting character in Clone Wars.

[@VIIStar]

I also couldn't help but notice the very obvious waifu on display XD

[@nykcarnsew2238]

Z-10 characters like Ahsoka, as well as Sarah Conner, Ripley and Alita, are how they protect themselves from coming to terms with their own sexism. Her placement is very deliberate

[@kisstwobirds]

I really want to whisper in his ear *Ahsoka is a lesbian*

[@maeveh1376]

I don't want to hear that one woman doesn't want to hear my opinion. I will make multiple videos to prove how I do not care

[@Tacom4ster]

The Quartering is such a Tsundere

[@Goat42049]

Yup and I’m gonna listen to the song that’s goes “I don’t fu** with you” to prove I don’t care

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Dude he can do what he wants just gfy.

[@williammckenzie6865]

My favorite is when someone tries to call her posture “straight and dominating” it’s the perfect example of haters finding anything to hate about

[@Mothmaninist]

He pronounces women like I assume waluigi would wah

[@rattyeely]

@Cian McCabe even though it just makes it seem like they can't talk

[@justtosuffer398]

Nasty leg It’s the joking, ironic way that Pewdiepie pronounces “women” in his videos. Speaking of Pewdiepie, he also has influenced thousands on the Larson hate train, willingly or unwillingly. His arguments against the actress take her out of context with respect to her underlying history of activism and are nit-picky, which is surprising given the way he’s been portrayed by the media.

[@adamclinton8241]

I always hate that. Can they just say it right? It’s getting so annoying!

[@tashachasse7239]

it’s basically a MGTOW/incel term - it’s ‘wamen’ meaning women who want all attention on them always, because thats /totally/ a gender specific thing. they basically call any woman who won’t put up with their shit, or disagree with them to any degree, a ‘wamen’ 🙄 it’s annoying and childish as fuck.

[@belias360]

It's hard for me nowadays to watch videos from a lot of white male nerdy YTbers because almost all of them are like that: problematic, racist, raving about the same "anti-SJW" nonsense over and over, and it's exhausting. But yet, we're the crybabies, we're the sensitive ones when they flip out over a fictional woman or PoC doing anything or being in any role that doesn't have such characters taking backseats to lead white guys. It's funny, because white nerds used to be bullied and shamed for their hobbies and now in 2019, they're weaponizing those same things to attack the rest of us who enjoy the same things.

[@oof-rr5nf]

I just recently read a post about how being a nerd isn't all that much of a counter culture if you look at the most toxic of the members. Instead nerd culture emulates aristocrat men, with their disdain of physical labour and looking down on professions not based on intellect and obsession with their own superior knowledge and wisdom. Also in terms of being outwardly accepting to women, but actually being hostile to them and maintaining a "boy's club". The post postulated that lotta typical (bad) nerd guy mentality is based on being the Philosopher Kings (like the ones Plato recommended) and not Warrior Kings of society. So a different outlook, but still with the focus on delusions of superiority and exclusion and hatred of women and their culture. In my book, it adds up. Especially after watching Pop Culture Detective's essays on The Big Bang Theory. Helps me see why nerd culture has such deeply toxic parts despite posing as a rejection of what's popular. Because these men aren't rejecting the bad aspects of masculinity in society, they are just coming up with new rules where _they_ reign supreme and can be as exclusionary to anyone they want.

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

Isn't stolen valor just fun? I'm an Ultra-Hipster, and I never expect to be catered to, honestly. If anyone had the right to be a salty nerd, it would be me. I don't let that get in my way of other people having their own fun, no matter what demographic they belong to, because I'm not bitter. Being bitter does not nessecarily correlate with being unpopular, but apparently nobody told these salty nerds that.

[@Doodlebob108]

brie larson may not actually hate 40 year old white men, but i sure do