Lada Niva Urban 4x4 Tuning Upgrade Torsen Diff VS Open Diff Test /// Ladapower.com

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@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
Installation is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGfQq2Rse7-pZtE
@The_Ballo
@The_Ballo 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you could psudeo-lock torsen diffs by applying brakes.
@clintchapman4319
@clintchapman4319 3 жыл бұрын
With the Torsen, when you get one wheel off of the ground you must tap the brake, then it will start pulling again... I'm surprised the test driver didn't know that.
@Trevorfoggia
@Trevorfoggia 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved the humble Niva. I had a Lada as my first car back in the late 70’s - a round head lighted model and it even had a crank to start the engine in case the battery ever went flat. What a lovely car that was. Heavy steering was its only downside. Since owning that car I’ve always been a fan of Lada but I have a special desire for a Niva Bronco. I just with they would return to England and sell them new here. I looked online the other day and it seems that Lada have dropped off the European sales, too. I’d rather have the Niva than the Jimny.
@raybob49
@raybob49 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Trevorfoggia. Such excellent and unpretentious cars that have been the butt of jokes - but then they have no knowledge of this very practical and good value car. I sincerely hope that the company will continue to make the Niva. Being a UK enthusiast has also brought new pals through spares purchases. Long may they continue. Thanks to the team at Lada Power who present so many quality videos.
@TheTech9
@TheTech9 5 жыл бұрын
So glad someone has posted a video like this! The information is very important for those looking to go Torsion
@magirusd8711
@magirusd8711 5 жыл бұрын
You may try to use your break pedal with left foot during step on the gas with the right one to lock the Torsen in diagonals. I think thats how to deal with Torsen. In the niva case perhaps the hand brake would do the job too because it seems both front tyres are always grounded.
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 4 жыл бұрын
DIAGONAL PROBLEM,NOT QUICKLY RESPONSE
@wesleyestes88
@wesleyestes88 3 жыл бұрын
@@SAADSAAD-bi6og Diagonal problem driver technique, not quickly response to conditions with maximum skill need use. Torsen torque bias ratio (TBR) solve wheel in air, just need hit brake plus gas same time. Now you skill go up like wheel also.
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyestes88 THEN what is most effective reponsive differential?????
@wernerschreiber6159
@wernerschreiber6159 Жыл бұрын
Das Video ist saucool gemacht. Und der Inhalt überzeugt. Echte Klasse 👋👋👋
@raybob49
@raybob49 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely FANTASTIC, Guys! Wish I still had my Niva. (UK)
@miggity_mac
@miggity_mac 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video showing you what the Torsens can do vs open diffs. Not the best for diagonal or wheel in the air as you showed but can be overcome with left foot brake or traction control. Another good point is that they work ALL THE TIME even when braking and in reverse. Selectable full diff locks dont, some even unlock when going backwards and are of course much more expensive than Torsens. Overall value for money and usefulness Torsens are very good
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 4 жыл бұрын
DIAGONAL PROBLEM
@realitrip
@realitrip 2 жыл бұрын
I can see this videos many times ;) thanks for sharing your job that is amazing! It's me again send you greetings while I travel the world in my NIVA to reach your place to meet you. 👊🏼🤙🏼
@orangek5
@orangek5 Жыл бұрын
it wood be nice too see an solid axle in the front also(in the form of a adapted rearaxle) too keep the diffs the same and too have more axlearticulation, everything is possible it only takes time..., love the posts
@allan80supra
@allan80supra 4 жыл бұрын
couple of clicks on the handbrake = no problem for diagonals or add a preload pack to your rear diffs (got T2 diffs front and rear in my landcruiser, rear has a preload pack and ATRAC never activates once the center diff is locked)
@vadimnesen8060
@vadimnesen8060 3 жыл бұрын
Make some videos of the torsens in action
@mrregik
@mrregik 4 жыл бұрын
You can use handbrake a little to improve diagonal capabilitys. Just 2-3 clicks.
@lowrange1486
@lowrange1486 4 жыл бұрын
It was more like a “marketing” video not showing stock Niva with TC locked. I’m preaty sure stock Niva would climb that too.
@russellknight26
@russellknight26 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you show stock Lada with diff lock on?
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
The reason of this was to show the slipping wheel on the open diff and advantage of the torsen differential face to face. We are not tried to show how to pass that slope correct. With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass it. No questions.
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 4 жыл бұрын
@@LadaPower BUT DIAGONAL PROBLEM
@jeanackle
@jeanackle 3 жыл бұрын
@@LadaPower You should not have shown the locked Torsen either then.
@AutodidactEngineer
@AutodidactEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
Stock niva is fine
@NattyKing1
@NattyKing1 Жыл бұрын
​@@LadaPower3 years later, i don't get what's the point of torsen diff if stock Lada diff is enough... Lmao
@ТихийРедуктор
@ТихийРедуктор 3 жыл бұрын
Круто! Хорошо что подписали кадры. Речь о винтовых самоблоках. Кто перешел по ссылке с нива клуба?)
@venomvideos855
@venomvideos855 5 жыл бұрын
Niva is my dream car, I will be able to afford one for my first car in a few years.
@Drugaskan
@Drugaskan 5 жыл бұрын
Was mine too for four years. Awesome car, use Fluid Film to prevent rust and the car will last very long
@Cam-pt9ex
@Cam-pt9ex 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drugaskan how mang coats of fluid film do you put
@Drugaskan
@Drugaskan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cam-pt9ex Depends on, if it is a new or used one. If used, 2 times Fluid Film Liquid A with a Week between so the first layer can stop the rust. Then 1-2 times Fluid Film NAS. If new Niva, then 2 times Fluid Film NAS with 1-2 Weeks between
@habanero8192
@habanero8192 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Torsen "brake trick"? ... when you've got no traction slightly depress the brake while depressing the accelerator to gain traction again ;-)
@buder5116
@buder5116 4 жыл бұрын
4:23 this is what i dont understand it suposed to lock why it dosent lock ?
@Revnge7Fold
@Revnge7Fold 4 жыл бұрын
Because torsen can't split 0-100 torque. one of the wheels MUST have at least some grip for the other wheel to get power.
@puskinsz
@puskinsz 4 жыл бұрын
What if I welded the rear diff? Not a daily, work car for farm.
@shug831
@shug831 5 жыл бұрын
I want a Niva for my next car.
@dustypaint
@dustypaint 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard color Lada niva 1.7 & LPG cabrio
@motoresruedas7357
@motoresruedas7357 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wonder how to activate rear and front dif lock, I mean, it's always locked or just when I lock the diff lock gear?
@georgevalgood1718
@georgevalgood1718 Жыл бұрын
Yo tenía un Niva 93, quería instalarle los Torsen adelante y atrás,pero por la pan/i lo tuve k vender y ahora son escasos y costosos, ojalá los volvieran a traer a Colombia, aquí en alguna época Bronto ensamblo unos lada más alargados y con techo más alto y con inyección monopunto y dirección hidráulica
@ladanivagreen
@ladanivagreen 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video . Niva is really nice car :)) I have too, but 1.9 diesel .
@steamy1225
@steamy1225 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. How and where to get a Lada Niva in The USA?
@herojops
@herojops 5 жыл бұрын
I love niva I love this Chanel
@4wdsome444
@4wdsome444 5 жыл бұрын
Nangkang somethings Avon traction mileage
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
thanks Hero!
@garaliwael4128
@garaliwael4128 Жыл бұрын
What are the sizes of the tires ?
@ΔαυίδΠριδεαυξ
@ΔαυίδΠριδεαυξ 5 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@LAM_FPV
@LAM_FPV 5 жыл бұрын
What are the different tyres on the video ?
@isaksundrapp
@isaksundrapp 5 жыл бұрын
Mlanaga bf allterian and kaiman malatesta
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
M/T Tyres on the stock Niva (i can't remember the size), Niva with the difflocks BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 215/75 R15 100/97S (With Black Bronto Rims) Last few shots, BFGoodrich Mud Terrain TA KM2 215/75 R15 (with silver Bronto Rims )
@Daniel-rx8hf
@Daniel-rx8hf 3 жыл бұрын
What is TC?
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 3 жыл бұрын
Transfer Case
@AlexsTheCat
@AlexsTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
In a hill use 2nd gear that way all 4 wheels fo forward dobt turn left or right to gain power
@ted1558
@ted1558 3 жыл бұрын
GOOD MOVIE, GUYS !! BRAVO !!
@isaksundrapp
@isaksundrapp 5 жыл бұрын
Any noise from the diff? Any discount buying 2 ? ;)
@Barnaby_bo
@Barnaby_bo 2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between the stock differential and torsen? Doesn't the niva come with lock differential capability?
@zarkobojanic2141
@zarkobojanic2141 2 жыл бұрын
Standard niva do not have front and rear dif -lock,only central diferential have manual lock.
@олеглябах-ш1е
@олеглябах-ш1е 5 жыл бұрын
класс!!!!)))Нива супер.!))
@vodoroda9449
@vodoroda9449 4 жыл бұрын
Здравия .Олег если ты понял что то из этого видео можешь в кратце пояснить что там происходит с дифференциалом?
@mrregik
@mrregik 4 жыл бұрын
Ну в стоке дифы свободные, колесо вывешивается и машина встаёт. На машине с торсеном в межколёсных дифах машина нормально едет. У Уазиков аналогичная проблема кстати, но Уаз просто начал ставить ЕСП, он прихватит буксующее колесо и момент уйдёт на противоположное. Не всем машинам ЕСП помогает выехать, но Уазу помогает.
@Kaynert
@Kaynert 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😊👍
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
Kaynert Thank you :)
@beneshkar2899
@beneshkar2899 5 жыл бұрын
excellent video thank you!
@Miniorpernik
@Miniorpernik 5 жыл бұрын
Very honest review.Thanks!Torsen works just as open diff when one tyre in the air thus the struggle in diagonal passes.Air lockers all the way if u are spending..:-)
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Krasimir!
@morbo5061
@morbo5061 5 жыл бұрын
Detroit in the rear and ARB in the front. My favorite combination. With dual ARB the rear would get locked often where I run. So the full time Detroit suits me best for the back and I lock the ARB for only the toughest obstacles and turn it back off. Personally I'd never for one second consider anything less than full on locking diffs for an offroad vehicle.
@freezerlunik
@freezerlunik 5 жыл бұрын
You just need to tap the brake if one wheel is spinning freely and Torsen will grab fine. Simplicity and lower maintenance is the reason US military applications chose Torsen over air lockers.
@morbo5061
@morbo5061 5 жыл бұрын
@@freezerlunik Torsens only stay locked to a point. They are incapable of putting 100% of input torque to one tire like a locker. They're much better than an open diff or clutch type limited slip but are still not true locking diffs.
@zayghamnawaz8878
@zayghamnawaz8878 5 жыл бұрын
@@morbo5061 what percentage of torque they can transfer to wheel with traction? 90%
@bobwgower
@bobwgower 5 жыл бұрын
Could you guys make a video on how to replace the rear upper shock absorber bolt (stud) on a Vaz 2101/Lada 1200. Mine has stripped and just bought the new stud from you guys, but not sure exactly where they weld it from factory.
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
Please post your question here in our group facebook.com/groups/ladapower/ . You will have the answer. Thanks.
@leventis1991
@leventis1991 2 жыл бұрын
Hello guys, I wanted to make a silly question, if i choose to upgrade the differencial in my lada niva i need to do it both in the front and in the back differencial or only in the back?
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 2 жыл бұрын
If you have money only to install one, then install the rear torsen. Then install to the front axle. The best is Rear + front together.
@leventis1991
@leventis1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@LadaPower That's extremely helpful. Another thing that i would like to ask is that i see different ratios and a different number of "teeth" in the rear Torsen diffs (22 and 24 teeth). How can i know what's suitable for me?
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 2 жыл бұрын
@@leventis1991 please email me info@ladapower.com and I will help you
@habanero8192
@habanero8192 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great video! ;-)
@PINceleste
@PINceleste 3 жыл бұрын
this looks amazing but I've heard that the front torsen diff is dangerous on daily use. I mean, is this true? is there a possiblity if locking at highspeed while turning?
@vadimnesen8060
@vadimnesen8060 3 жыл бұрын
Never. Unless you neglect it and never change oil
@hectorsalido1913
@hectorsalido1913 5 жыл бұрын
Con el bloqueo del 100x100 +reductora sube sobrado que no cuenten peliculas tuve el 1600 y el 1700 inyección y se subía por las paredes.
@lamaravilla1232
@lamaravilla1232 5 жыл бұрын
in th minute 4:05 the torsen dont work because torsen dont need tc locked . that torsen is damage
@sfafsashfdh6589
@sfafsashfdh6589 2 жыл бұрын
doesnt lada niva has stock diff lock?
@motoresruedas7357
@motoresruedas7357 2 жыл бұрын
Central diff lock but not rear or front diff lock
@sfafsashfdh6589
@sfafsashfdh6589 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoresruedas7357 I thought that central diff lock locks all wheels so they spin in sync
@motoresruedas7357
@motoresruedas7357 2 жыл бұрын
@@sfafsashfdh6589 central diff locked axles front and rear, but not 4 Wheels, just axles. In some cases and depending on your use you don't need more. Jeep Wrangler for example comes with 3 diff lock from factory. Front, central and rear just like Mercedes Benz G class.
@sfafsashfdh6589
@sfafsashfdh6589 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoresruedas7357 so if I engage central diff lock, is it like I welded front and rear diffs but they are independent?
@motoresruedas7357
@motoresruedas7357 2 жыл бұрын
@@sfafsashfdh6589 that's right
@Cozzera
@Cozzera 5 жыл бұрын
How much does this cost parts and labor?
@Desmodromic916
@Desmodromic916 4 жыл бұрын
TC - Center differential?
@1mandas
@1mandas 3 жыл бұрын
Transfer case, central lock
@Desmodromic916
@Desmodromic916 3 жыл бұрын
@@1mandas well there is a difference between TC and CD
@enesfedayi321
@enesfedayi321 5 жыл бұрын
Beatiful car Lada nivas
@TinShackVideos
@TinShackVideos 2 жыл бұрын
"Gotta Whole Lotta Niva"
@oxdudepoege
@oxdudepoege 4 жыл бұрын
What does "TC" stand for?
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 4 жыл бұрын
Transfer Case
@nikvandeneede1228
@nikvandeneede1228 4 жыл бұрын
Left foot braking on the diagonals gets you through
@simcatbob
@simcatbob 5 жыл бұрын
It would be helpful to video an installation.
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGfQq2Rse7-pZtE
@prencipebass
@prencipebass 3 жыл бұрын
100% lock?
@simcatbob
@simcatbob 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video Guys! Bob, UK.
@Kaynert
@Kaynert 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome shit!
@vikinggeneral1909
@vikinggeneral1909 5 жыл бұрын
My experience says that 90% of Niva capabilities are in a proper tyres.
@N4ttl
@N4ttl 4 жыл бұрын
This is true in many but not in all cases. Some tires (e.g. Simex Centipede profile) are far too aggressive for the Niva resulting in axle breaks. And when your flex is maxed out and tires are not on the ground, you are stuck. Then you need four people hanging on the side of Niva to give it enough weight that the tire hits the ground. Long time hardcore Niva offroader here. I've seen and done it all ;)
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa 4 жыл бұрын
Sounded crunchy ..... where was the Microphone !!
@dkongul
@dkongul 4 жыл бұрын
why you didnt showed the niva with locked tc? if you think your product is better and claim to do an honest video show every aspect. I was considering of buying torsen diffs but after this video i WILL NOT buy them!
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question, sank. The reason for this was to show the slipping wheel on the open diff and advantage of the torsen differential face to face. We are not tried to show how to pass that slope correctly. With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass it. No questions. Niva with the torsen differentials is much more useful for any terrain than the standard one. We did a fair test. All our customers are very happy with the result.
@motoflyte
@motoflyte 3 жыл бұрын
All these limited slip differentials are a joke...torsen, wavetrac, etc... The wheels still spin just like before. What they need to do is put a torque converter type control on the differential gears. That way the amount of slip would be limited.
@Ghost-tj5dj
@Ghost-tj5dj 4 жыл бұрын
Alguien en español q me diga q nomás tiene puesto? :’v
@LuisVargas-bg1dv
@LuisVargas-bg1dv 3 жыл бұрын
El Niva ? Todos los videos del canal LadaPower, los accesorios los instalan en ese Niva. Checalos
@jarmokajander7990
@jarmokajander7990 5 жыл бұрын
KIITOS!!
@coolboy5428
@coolboy5428 4 жыл бұрын
No LED, only incandescant.
@Coordinator61
@Coordinator61 4 жыл бұрын
Driving too slow on stock Lada, give it more and it will climb that hill with ease.
@tol7488
@tol7488 3 жыл бұрын
pull a little hand brake...
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 4 жыл бұрын
BUT DIAGONAL PROBLEM
@maniekge8776
@maniekge8776 3 жыл бұрын
Question: "Do you realy need Torsen differential for Your Lada Niva?" Answer: Yes! But if you aren't a real offroad driver only. Why? "(...) With the locked TC diff stock Niva will pass that slope. (...)". Nothing more, nothing less... No doubt - differential TORSEN increases terrain capabilities of Lada Niva. Especially for "idiot-drivers". One question: doesn't TC locked will damage the TORSEN front and rear differentials?
@lixanzamanl2372
@lixanzamanl2372 5 жыл бұрын
Elixan
@lixanzamanl2372
@lixanzamanl2372 5 жыл бұрын
Coq qesenq
@lixanzamanl2372
@lixanzamanl2372 5 жыл бұрын
G
@edik266.
@edik266. 5 жыл бұрын
на стоковой ниве чувак делает так что бы не проехал
@kaitobmw5561
@kaitobmw5561 5 жыл бұрын
Pubg bring me here
@WannesDeBacker
@WannesDeBacker 4 жыл бұрын
any audi quattro will easily do these challenges
@kyleb5518
@kyleb5518 4 жыл бұрын
Wannes De Backer a4 and up yes, but the a4 and up quattro have torsen differentials front rear and centre anyway, as they said a standard niva would piss up the hill if they were trying, just demonstrating how it works
@michaelkukkola4054
@michaelkukkola4054 5 жыл бұрын
how many times can you show the same shit.. ”Stock niva without tc locked........
@vollerhoffnung8280
@vollerhoffnung8280 5 жыл бұрын
lass deine scheissmusik weg. deswegen daumen nach unten.
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 2 жыл бұрын
BUT DIAGONAL PROBLEM
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 2 жыл бұрын
It is not a problem, you just need to install another 💯 locking differential.
@SAADSAAD-bi6og
@SAADSAAD-bi6og 2 жыл бұрын
@@LadaPower which is parfect lock which is as simple as torsen,i want to add with torsen
@LadaPower
@LadaPower 2 жыл бұрын
@@SAADSAAD-bi6og please email me info@ladapower.com and tell me year of your Lada Niva
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