Do NOT make these mistakes boat buying - Ep 211 - Lady K Sailing

This week, Tim talks about the top mistakes people make when sailboat shopping. From Ketch Rigs, to Full Encapsulated Keels, to Fin Keels.
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[@UUBrahman]

That was a strong ending, nothing speaks more clearly than the voice of experience.

[@MacMiggity]

"Happiness is a lot closer than you thought it was" - I needed that

[@peterhomann2140]

I agree with just about everything you say here and would like to add a few thoughts. Regarding sloop vs. ketch (or even cutter): The individual sail on a ketch of comparable size can be smaller than the sail on a sloop, meaning easier to handle especially when up- or downrigging. I have an older sailplan on my sloop, 135% genoa and I can tell you: as I get older this thing becomes heavier and more stubborn every year. I also would like to expand on your last point. A smaller boat is better and I am referring to number of berths here. As you retire you may think of the kids and grandkids visiting you in these exotic places you plan to visit. Let me tell you: They never come. The extra cabins / berths become storage for stuff you only bought because you have the storage. The extra size of the boat drains your wallet. And if the kids did all come at the same time with their significant others there will be a hotel room for those who can not sleep on board. So I suggest to buy a boat accommodating your regular complement of sailors comfortably and one additional cabin with a double berth for the occasional friend/s visiting or for yourself if/when you are being sent to the doghouse.

[@DutchKC9UOD]

Great point!

[@peterhomann2140]

@@brownnoise357 If you ask me it also depends very much on the age and design of the boat. If you are handicapped a deck salon, specifically the Sirius concept should be high on your list. Email Torsten, the owner and tell him Peter sent you To get the same space of a recent 40 foot design you would have to get 45 to 50 feet in an older boat but space is really only one factor. Personally you will not ever get me into any of the contemporary wide azz buckets despite all the room these boats clearly offer below. When you look at the Sirius 40 ds you find comfort and privacy for 3 couples and a tech room in 40 foot, of course it is an (expensive) outlier. If I had to find a good compromise between size, room, price, maintenance cost, meaning overall value, and ease of handling / sailing performance: I think the Catalina 425 is difficult to beat. I also like Nordship, their 430 would fit your bill, quality and concept similar to Sirius but more affordable. Going older: Wauquiez 48 ps, Moody 46/47 from the late 90ies, any of the Swedes, Hallberg, Najad, Mal(oe) of that time but you have to look mid 40 to upper 40 range.

[@raanburd5553]

Well said I'll have to keep that in mind, just starting and looking so thanks

[@svgitana2499]

Oh my god so true!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Family NEVER comes to visit🤣🤣🤣

[@stefflus08]

If you are ever "sent to the doghouse" you have some reflecting to do.

[@ryanking4559]

For the first point on encapsulated keels. There are a few boat builders like Pearson in the 70s and 80s that often used encapsulated keel designs, while maintaining a performance oriented nimble fin design. These were done by pouring the keel first, then building the boat around it, meaning the lead is directly bonded to the hull and keel skin without any voids or need for filler. In my time working on newer and older yachts, I've found this design to be the best combination of both worlds.

[@guillaumemarquis6680]

Hi Ryan, what other sailboat do you recomand for encapsulated keel? I know the cape dory 28 is a good boat. Thank you!

[@sailinggreenpearl2571]

Dunno, uma's keel was practically falling off when they bought her. I think, just understand what you have and do maintenance accordingly....

[@WaterTrails]

Found this in a Lattitudes article from 2016: "According to the ISAF, there have been 72 recorded cases of keels falling off boats since 1984, with 24 lives being lost. In some cases, the boats were extreme racing boats, but in other cases they were popular production boats of which hundreds had been made."

[@SpeedDemonExpress]

As an aerospace welder, I'm not okay seeing a few tiny plates inside the hull to spread the tension on the bolts. That's asking for cracks or worse. Not only that, but they used square plate without any rounded edges, huge no no. It needs to have a large plate that links multiple if not all the studs together, no sharp corners. Even better if it has thick alignment dowel pins.

[@skwerldeath]

I’m no engineer, and I could not agree more. I don’t have strong feelings about a bolt-on keel, but that workmanship/design was just total Ass. I think there’s a good way to attach a keel, and that ain’t it.

[@voornaam3191]

Yes, people with zero knowledge owning yachts are murderers, they have no idea. Half of them are a danger to themselves, anyway. Just view video's on accidents, you often think NO, DON'T DO THAT!

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Always good content and once again you haven't disappointed. One thing that I would add is that no discussion of keel types is complete without mentioning rudders. I have a friend who was crewing on a Farr 52 when what they believed to be a sunfish or possibly a whale struck their rudder. This caused the rudder stock bearings to fail which led to the rudder stock thrashing around and extensively damaging the hull. It took only minutes before a mayday was declared and the crew stepped up onto the life raft. Fortunately, this happened in a race and one of their fellow competitors was standing by, ready to assist. There were no injuries nor loss of life. I remember seeing the captain and half owner of the vessel, the late Graeme Ainley, interviewed on television. His words were somewhere along the lines of "It's very sobering watching your yacht sink below the surface, knowing it will be lost forever".

[@jamesgraham6122]

An excellent, thought-provoking review of some very basic issues. I've been sailing the world for 40 yrs, 17 of those as a professional skipper, it's surprising to myself just how my thoughts have lodged themselves into well worn grooves.. a rethink can open up new channels. Well Done.

[@benlindner5285]

I bought a blue water boat, then spent 3 years preparing for the voyage of a lifetime. Departed Ensenada Mexico June 14th, 35 days later arrived in the Nuku-Hiva Marquesas Islands French Polynesia! Solo in a 27' boat at 69 years young. Best thing I ever did and I would never own a boat that could not take me anywhere on the planet! Fiji? Hawaii? New Zealand? Bring it on!! Bleach bottles should be recycled not sailed. Ben S/V DAWN

[@okiedoke6373]

Congratulations

[@zaggnutt2772]

That is a memory of a lifetime and a rare one for our human race. What was your boat? Do you still sail?

[@benlindner5285]

@@zaggnutt2772 Pacific Seacraft Orion (27') and of course I still sail. I live on the boat part time. I plan to sail to the Southern Pacific Coast of Mexico in the Fall.

[@nacdaddy5591]

"Happiness is a lot closer than you thought it was" true of everything in life. There is no greener grass, just more grass.

[@Sommers234]

How appropriate since just today I came out of a bit of a funk by doing one or two things that meant a lot to me and it just changed my whole perspective

[@davidwhite6617]

If your looking for greener grass, buy yourself a golf course!

[@esmith97403]

Grass is greener where it's watered 🤙🏻

[@bowdezaufa2609]

I love my encapsulated keel on my 33T Hans Christian. BUT! the new production boats definitely have a place and application for those looking for updated luxuries.

[@roadboat9216]

I have owned sloops cutters and ketches. For larger boats, I like a center cockpit ketch best. Especially with smaller crew. You have smaller sails with more options. And for boats say, over 42 or so feet, center cockpit is safer and easier. With better options for engine and layout.

[@martymerkler5472]

After decades of sailing, I continue to learn and adjust. Great videos. Proper maintenance and competence brings safety, whatever sail plan you chose.

[@puertola7186]

Although bolted keels can indeed be replaced after hitting something or grounding the boat, I am not sure if it is that simple. In most cases any crash will put a lot of stress where the keel is bolted to the body of the boat and likely crack things in the bilge area.

[@ianmccullough7294]

Sailed through a Force 10 off of France on a Beneteau bolt-on without incident, but we had just done a whole keel-off repair, so that shouldn't be surprising. Bolt-ons are fine if you do the necessary maintenance (which is true for any boat).

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Having done a single Force 10 in a principal warship, I'm glad our 'keel 'was encapsulated! 🙃

[@jims5338]

A couple things you didn't mention are the encapsulated full keel boats tend to track better, with less leeway, and they generally heave-to better for heavier conditions. For fin keels, maneuverability and the ability to back the boat are a huge plus. I've had both and was shocked how difficult my full keel boat is to back even with practice!

[@Sommers234]

Totally agree I was waiting for some discussion about tracking and slow movement

[@davidross5291]

All good advice. We bought our 37.5 Legend as a Bay/Bahama trial boat to see if we'll really love the lifestyle. If so, (and if needed) we will upgrade to a different boat later. On the keel battle: I calculate the risk based on how many days I am away from a travel lift. Hitting a semi-submerged shipping container at full tilt in the middle of the Atlantic is very different from plowing into a reef a few miles off Key West. I personally would not be comfortable in a bolted fin keel in the middle of the Atlantic for this reason but lots of people do it.

[@todddunn945]

The downsides to bolt-on keels come down to three things: 1) Build quality 2) keel bolts and 3) damage from grounding. Lets consider those three things. Build quality is s big part of the overall security of a bolt on keel. In a properly built boat the keel is bolted to the bottom of the hull or to a keel stub molded into the hull. In either case there needs to be a properly engineered and manufactured keel grid inside the hull to spread keel loads over a wide area of the hull. Poorly built boats will maybe have a couple of extra layers of glass around the keel base and simply rely on big washers to "spread" the load. That sort of build is very susceptible to taking major damage in a grounding and maybe even sinking. Just having a stub the keel is bolted to is not enough unless there are significant floors in the stub that tie into a large area keel grid inside the hull. Keel bolts also matter. Most keels you will see have stainless bolts cast into the keel. The issue with stainless bolts is that if the seal around the bolts fails, the bolts get wet with salt water and can experience crevice corrosion which leads to catastrophic failure. Stainless bolts may look fine inside the boat but be badly corroded at the hull keel interface where they can't be checked short of dropping the keel. The solution to that issue is to use bronze of cupronickel (everdur or monel) bolts which are MUCH less susceptible to corrosion than stainless, but they also cost a LOT more than stainless. Grounding damage. A typical bolt on fin keel can suffer significant damage if the boat hits something. As you mentioned this may lead to replacing the keel. However, when a fin keel boat hits something solid the bigger issue is damage to the hull A collision (grounding) will generally rotate the keel so the for forward end of the keel pulls away from the hull and the aft end of the keel pushes UP into the hull. Having the aft end of the keel push up into the hull can tear the hull leading to a very bad leak that may sink the boat even if the keel stays attached. The only solution to this is don't buy a boat that has had a hard grounding. As far as encapsulated ballast keels are concerned it is always a good idea to research the boat you are considering to see if the ballast was put in as a single casting and what the ballast material is. Basically, better quality boats will have a single lead casting in the keel cavity that is fully glassed in place. Also on full keel boats only the cheapest and most traditional designs will just have ballast dumped into the keel cavity and surrounded by resin (polyester is much more common than epoxy) or cement. There is nothing wrong with cement if it is well done. Better quality boats have a ballast casting that is generally located at the bottom, front of the keel cavity with the space behind the glassed in ballast used for tanks and often a deep bilge (see Island Packet). Personally I would avoid a boat with anything other than a single lead ballast casting. Finally, not all full keel boats have internal encapsulated ballast. Many boats have bolted on lead (or iron on cheaper boats), backed up by a very solid deadwood structure. In these cases the ballast is generally located at the forward end of the keel. In this case, you do need to be aware of the metal used for the keel bolts as I mentioned above.

[@unconventionalme8048]

20:01 dude! You are so good at what ya do!!! Thank you for sharing the perspectives!

[@LadyKSailing]

Thanks for watching!

[@NikolaRadosavljevic82]

Excellent video! I own an O’Day 39 from 1984 that has a laminated grid and a stub bolted on lead keel. The boat’s been grounded hard several times before my ownership, as well as during my ownership. I got stuck in large gravel for about 12 hours with the following 1-2ft swell. The swell would lift the whole boat 4 inches every minute and slam it down about.. 6000 times. Some of these boats are built like tanks.

[@voornaam3191]

You mean like water tanks? They leak?!

[@sailingsegundo4644]

Good video a lot of info . I am very experienced on sloop and Ketch rigs . A ketch is not designed to run around day sailing . They are meant to ocean sail . and if they are long keel very comfortably, I might add. As you know the majority of ocean sailing is on run and the beam not usually close hauled. Running With a ketch rig gives you a lot of Combinations Of sail configurations. I single hand a ketch rig all the time even club race . And the truth is it's It's not much more effort than tacking a sloop. The mizzen does not give you much hard on the wind and does not require much effort to adjust. I also sail a catalina with a bolt on keel and when you hit sand and mud its a hard bang . A full Or long incapacitated keel usually rides up a grounding smoothly because Of the gradual slop of the keel that is unless you hit a wall or reef. You commented that a hard grounding on a bolt on is easier to repair. The keel What about the boat . Probably not going to sink a boat smashing a incapacitated keel. A bolt on Probably will take in water on a bad grounding . As far a long keel boats being slow my 41 foot has hull speed about 8 knots. And I never win a race but I can sure finish them . A long keel ketch below 15 knots is crawling compared to a equally sized sloop. But when it hits 20 and above they are as fast as an equally sized sloop.

[@kevinmencer3782]

I've been researching my first live aboard for a long while now. Honestly, if speed is the only true advantage of a fin or bulb, I'd take a full keel. Extra stability and comfort at sea sounds like it'd be worth a couple knots of speed.

[@RModillo]

One thing to remember about ketches, apart from having to find a spot for the mizzen. Typically, main mast and mizzen are linked with a stay, which basically means that if one goes down, the other follows. A yawl, on the other hand, allows one mast to survive a catastrophe like that, and also allows options for balance, sail shortening, etc. A #3 genoa and mizzen can carry you through an awful lot of conditions if the wind is too strong, or you are too lazy, to raise the main.

[@timmillea]

"The World is a big place", agreed! When I was a charter skipper in Greece, invariably my charter clients wanted to visit all the most famous Greek islands. I had to get out the small scale chart and show them the distances involved, then point out that there were over 2,000 Greek islands and the famous ones all had international airports and would be over-run with tourists. The beauty of sailboat cruising is being able to get to places that others cannot and, as suggested in this video, hanging around in the most beautiful ones. I watched this video because I am looking for a boat to live on for my retirement. I won't be living in a marina (what's the point of that?), I won't ever, ever be racing and I certainly won't be crossing oceans or making huge passages - I left such madness in my youth. I want to live in comfort, practically, in beautiful places and make new friends of a similar mind. If I find the right anchorage, I will feel absolutely no compulsion to sail or move on, unless the weather dictates it. What I detest about boat reviews and discussion forums about sailboats is the focus on 'performance' and 'seaworthiness' for 'blue-water cruising'. These people have lost the plot. If I were to stay 3 months at a time in the most beautiful bays on Earth, no more than a day or two's gentle sailing apart in perfect weather, what boat is best? If it makes 4 knots instead of 7 and has a galley unsuited to cooking in heavy seas, it is totally irrelevant to me.

[@sergiocruz4766]

Concordo totalmente com você. Existem barcos que são velhos patos, andam devagar mas com conforto e segurança. Eu tenho 70 anos, brasileiro , e estou projetando comprar um veleiro nos EUA. O veleiro que custa U$10.000,00 a 20.000,00 nos EUA, custa U$150.000,00 ou mais no Brasil. E, se eu comprar esse barco nós EUA. terei que levá-lo para a Argentina porque é proibido comprar um barco usado no exterior e trazer para o Brasil. Terei que deixar o barco em uma Marina Argentina a 1.200km de minha casa. Isso é o Brasil.

[@doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097]

Another point for ketches/yawls: lower mast height means a lower center of sailing effort (for comparable total sail area), and thus a lower righting moment is needed from keel/hull shape. Or conversely: as the breeze freshens, you can keep the full canvas longer with the ketch than you can with the sloop (i.e., at some point you lose speed because of excessive heeling) - thus explaining the potential speed advantage you mentioned.

[@dave98781]

I really enjoy your channel. Keep the content coming! :) My wife and I were boat shopping last year for something in the 25' range for sailing on a nearby lake. We saw a lot of rusty corroded keel bolts sitting in bilge water. We were delighted to find a Cal 2-25 with an encapsulated lead keel available. For older boats, it seems encapsulated keels have an advantage.

[@markayers5397]

Love the happyness part. yes, at this point, just hitting the water is happyness!

[@MrJfred55]

Great closing monologue!

[@McLoven-vm1ck]

I've come around to sloops myself and I do like that encapsulated keels are simpler. Give up a few knots for a keel you dont have to worry about and bit of a shallower draft.

[@maurenemorgan5814]

As a small boat (40' sloop) circumnavigator, I agree with Tim. Go small and stay local.

[@danlindy9670]

I love hearing a good counter-argument to presumed wisdom. It really helps to clarify the trade-offs, whether in life or in sailboat shopping. One thing though, if bolt-on keels are fine, and more space for living is fine, and ocean-crossing is unnecessary, then why bother with a monohull at all? Why not buy a cat with a bar and two refrigerators?

[@severpop8699]

expensive to lift ashore for repairs and maintanance, provided you find a boat yard that has the equipment that big.

[@tylernordine3875]

Loved the new intro with the sailing montage! Keep that up 😊

[@qdav5]

Thanks for the informative and useful discussion. I've just started thinking about buying my first sailboat and have already changed my mind a dozen times. The vast number of design options along with strong, and conflicting opinions of experienced cruisers is very confusing.

[@Glenbard4]

Great advice as usual.

[@kirtrasmussen7829]

Really enjoyed this video, very informative!

[@kattnhatt]

Great stuff- loved this video.

[@adamdennis2936]

GREAT POINTS MADE

[@intotheunknown804]

Love these types of videos

[@WavedancerWesterlyfulmar]

As always a well presented and researched video. Greetings from Ireland and happy new year belatedly.

[@Eznot2cme]

Another great video Tim. Thanks

[@kermitthefrog6363]

I have always looked at boats like knives...you have butter knives and you have steak knives...it depends on what you are doing with them. On the keel issue, we watched a brand new 47 foot coming out of the shipping stand and the wet slings slid and the boat moved 6 inches forward hitting the bottom of the keel on the stand. The result was the thin keel ripped out of keel box at the front and the sharp trailing edge was driven up into the hull. The damage was such that if this incident happened in water the boat would have sunk. People who like to explore and go places where others do not, need a keel that can take a grounding. If you think it will never happen, then you are not really exploring. There are lots of places where the charts are old and have not been updated. We travelled into bays and other areas and the charts had just the contour lines with no obstructions....and there were obstructions..... If you sail on the west coast of Canada, large logs present you another fun thing to hit.....Another thing that you might have brought up is the overall shapes of the boats comparing racing boats to cruising boats as some weekend racing boats are not suitable for being out in blue water. If you are happy with racing then buy a racing boat (or a weekend racer/cruiser) and when you are getting ready to go cruising buy a boat based on the area you want to cruise. Thanks again for the great video....I see that you are not the commodore lol...

[@PA96704]

I had keel bolts and don't want to go back for that reason of hitting something. I never did but watching it get rust made me nervous.

[@zapperguy1]

I am enjoying the absolute wealth of information and experience that you bring to the subject. Happy New Year and keep up the great content.

[@foreverendeavors6210]

Great content, definitely feeling more comfortable getting started in sailing.

[@user-ek1qt2le5n]

Tim, I greatly appreciate your ongoing assistance in providing your take on the pros & cons for all things sailing!

[@Themarriedbachelor]

Well thought out.

[@rexstiger6090]

Great video, thanks.

[@kevio6868]

great topic Tim. Thanks for breaking it down on both sides

[@carlmason6477]

Thank you for this wisdom!

[@utopiac679]

Thank you Tim 🙏🏼 💜

[@benoitshaar1605]

Way to go Lady..you are doing it.👍.

[@marcjwoods]

Great info. Thank you!

[@JohnLee-im7iu]

Excellent video. Thank you!

[@deborahdoyle6743]

Great job on explaining keel types

[@Tom-ln9ic]

Loving the new content Tim. I won't lie though, I'm really looking forward to seeing you go through the Erie Canal again and out into the world.

[@coquinagallery]

Thanks for the great info and the wisdom! 👏🏻

[@Lesbiangirl9264]

Excellent perspectives, thank you!

[@billitunes1]

Brilliant episode

[@RaulMartinez-ln8zq]

Great video Tim with very important topics. Good I watched it. Thanks!

[@Uncanny_Silence]

I'm so happy I discovered this channel. You provide such great, useful information.

[@TripsToInfinity]

Great video! Some really good perspectives. I appreciate you!

[@Mira3441]

Thanks! Good video!

[@MikeSantis]

Good video. Many good points. Thanks

[@fk8marko774]

Food for thought in that closing statement for sure, the more I watch the more I learn from you Tim, good to know someone like you is available for consults when the time comes time to find that happiness for us.......appreciate your insight always

[@mark1883]

Love this presentation

[@andrewpipitone1572]

This was a really good chat giving great tips for newbie sailors.

[@toddwever4916]

Another great episode Tim! Cuba looked like it treated you well!

[@9666beastly]

Your food for thought was mind opening, thank you for the channel!

[@simoncrouch9773]

Good article Tim. I like the Ketch rig a lot, and agree completely with your analysis of them.

[@Crowscratch_HauntedLibrary]

Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience. Always appreciated!

[@xbioman7882]

You didn't mention what I consider to be the biggest advantage of having a ketch rig, that is the flexibility of sale plan on a ketch. It is much easier to adjust the amount of sails in weather with the extra mast. I've spent several nasty gales with a storm staysail and a reefed mizzen.

[@DrZond]

There are 2 kinds of sailors; those who have hit bottom and liars. Long keels often have a diagonal front edge. A gentle slope spreads out the impact of a bottom hit. A log keel boat will rise up over an obstacle like a ramp. Most bolted on keels have either a steep slope or just a straight 90º edge. That's crazy. It's designed to be broken off at the first rock. When you look at a boat profile, imagine it hitting something. Another crazy idea is bulb keels. My son chartered a boat with a bulb keel and partial rope anchor rode. The rode got wrapped around the keel when the wind came up and it had to be cut. To me the biggest advantages of a long keel is that it will heave-to at a good angle into the wind. Heaving-to is one of the best options in storms or when anything goes wrong. Narrow fin keel boats are terrible at it. They either won't do it at all, or settle on the beam, the last thing you want. Why anyone would buy a boat that won't heal-to is beyond me. Boats should be designed for the ocean, not for the marina.

[@1badsteed]

The thought of hitting bottom scares the hookey doo out of me. We are looking for our first sailboat. It will be a liveaboard for 3 people. It can be intimidating to find something with enough space yet affordable

[@joelllabrie5055]

Wow That was a great discussion. Loved the info

[@alpgurpinar7285]

So good and helpful, cheers, happy new year to you, and everybody who are watching.

[@TurgutKalfaoglu]

thank you.. very good advice! I was always scared of bolt-on keels, but maybe it makes more sense now!

[@rohantherockwiththerocketh7871]

Good video mate have a ripper new year!

[@neilpenfold9037]

That was very insightful...some really good points, that were well made and that a lot of sailors starting out will possibly overlook...Top Show Tim...

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Excellent video. Great way to start the day. Thank you!

[@Sommers234]

This was absolutely fascinating. I certainly learned a lot about Keels .... but I especially appreciate your outlook on slowing it down and finding so much peace and Beauty in Where You Are.

[@alantee1]

I remember adding the ballast into an encapsulated keel, 2 whole days up and down ladders carrying and pouring lead shot and resin in buckets.

[@abdulkkhan5095]

Valuable information.

[@tsav6952]

Spectacular food for thought at the end of this video! Thank you!

[@koborkutya7338]

I liked this episode a lot. Not a sailor myself but I had similar experiences on other fields to what you mention re ocean crossing boats for first timers.

[@davidamburgey9398]

Great Video-- Thank you!!!

[@seanrhone5306]

Another great episode!

[@derekcooper7821]

Well done mate, your closing lines nailed it once again. 🙂👍🏽

[@jlmendezg1296]

Happy new year and thanks by your documented opinions. Keels are the most important thing in a boat in my opinion

[@BuckeyeChuck11]

Of the probably thousands of YT videos about sailing/cruising...including your whole catalog(!)...this one is probably the single Most Influential video I have ever seen. Not because you were trying to influence me, not because I Felt influenced in any way...but because it was by far the most clearly stated video asking me to more clearly define what ways I have already been influenced. I don't believe my mind has been changed, yet...as an admitted landlubbing dreamer...but I now have a sharper eye with respect to which boats I will seek out in the future. Thank You very much!

[@Sommers234]

Agree he makes some very powerful points and shows that he understands so well what it means to be a cruiser. Most of my sailing is just day sailing on the Chesapeake but I get so much joy from it

[@C_R_O_M________]

Excellent and very useful video (for thought).

[@PittwaterMowing]

Great advice

[@hughburgess4168]

Outstanding. Particularly the bit at the end about being happy! I also loved the distinguishing attributes of bolt on keels versus moulds! ⛵️

[@ACsailing]

Great video. My wife and I got a lot out of this episode. Great job. Thank you.

[@svwanderlust9697]

Nice video showing that everything is a compromise. It’s what you want/need and have to look at the plus and minus of each. Thanks for sharing you knowledge.

[@timothynoble8343]

Great Video, I have been watching for a few years now during my boat research. I love this content and approach on boat buying. As a future blue water sailor and this video has helped me to reaffirm my decision on the manufacturer and model of my choice of boat. Thank you and keep up the great content.

[@hansellwhite2579]

I have been watching the LadyK videos for some time now. Your info approach in this non bias way gets me thinking on every video. Here I am looking to purchase a full keel to sail the world and you bring sensibility into view. Really enjoy your videos. And hopefully I will become a patron of yours.. keep it up and hope to meet you out on the water and shake your hand...stay afloat..

[@waltobringer2928]

Thanks!

[@mackenziebrewing8706]

One of the best and most eye opening programs. I love the series and look forward to you back on the water. BTW, you're daughter's intos are sweet and sorely missed

[@marcvilleneuve]

Good analysis! No boat is perfect and it is good to show an open mind when shopping.

[@captainlee1]

wow you have some good ideas and presence Tim. good day to ya....Cap ward.

[@charlespayne1061]

Great episode Tim. Fin keels have a tremendous advantages over a long keep but haul deformation is a real problem.

[@eskokoskenranta6280]

Thank You for your information. In my boat Schelinkryssare 35 ft 5 tn has an incapsulated long keel secured with several one inch bolts.